FFXIV: Shadowbringers is one of the best JRPGs ever made.
FFXIV: Shadowbringers is one of the best JRPGs ever made.
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yes
breh i just started shadowbringers last night and i agree
stormblood was still mostly kino, esp the raids, but got slow at ponts. shadowbringers revived the whole theme of the game.
>a fucking MMO has more soul than a vast majority of modern vidya
the absolute state
>JRPG
it's a VN
We get it, you can't read and you hate it.
Great by that point in the game. Especially Monk or Ninja with a controller.
How is the gameplay?
better than worlo
That's not a very high bar.
wtf is worlo
worlo worcrof
Rent free jesus christ
worlo wawa
Cope wowbuck
Pretty bad for an MMO honestly. The netcode is awful, the server tick rare is super low for an MMO and the gameplay does not feel all that responsive. The games highlight is it's story which is good for an MMO.
Shit tier like any MMO.
gameplay and story are both trash-tier. MMO players have no capacity to judge.
meh to serviceable. it's tab target, which is garbage already, and it's not very good tab target combat either. some of the fights are fun puzzles, at least
Not bad.
I love the combat in this MMO though admittedly its the only MMO I've made it past 3 expansions in. But when you're doing EX Trial versions of story bosses and just optional bosses in general, it's so addictive. Working together and memorizing when to attack, what to attack, where to stand, etc. Couple that with the amazing music while you're doing it. It's one of my favorite experiences I've had in any video game ever
Only healer and tanking is actually somewhat fun and engaging, dps is boring aside from positioning and trying not to drop a rotation with a mis-click, unless you have extensions which at that point it's impossible to even do that
It peaks pretty high but as a whole it's 8/10 at most, 7/10 if you don't get overly attached to the antagonist I'd say
oh yeah forgot to mention he's one of the best antagonists on vidya too
who the FUCK thought this was good design? its annoying and stupid and its not at all cute.
the chair isn't much to look at either either
what am i in for if i download the trial ?
I got like 200+ hours out of it, so see if you like it.
Trannies
First about 100 hours of very slow worldbuilding and character introductions, then 100 hours of the real test of whether you'll like the game or not.
>matsuno's understudy for Bozja is writing 7.0 instead of the Werlyt writer
Can't wait for stormblood 2: zero redeeming qualities edition
werlyt was horribly written though. I laughed at how cheezy it was and how terrible the conclusion was.
werlyt was bog standard mecha tropes with a villain written to be so evil it loops around to being the most unintentionally funny quest line
But it wasn't funny, it was just bad.
the most controversial item in modern gaming
>Miqo'te get a cat tree
>Nobody reacts
>Elezen get multiple salt-licks, and endless running jokes about them being giraffes
>Nobody reacts
>Lalafel get a high-chair
>Forums blows up with "serious gamer types" exploding with tears and shitting themselves in fury
Why are they like this?
80% of lala players are pathetic drama queens and will take any opportunity to chimp out
wish blue mage could enter deep dungeons
>but muh necromancie lonehero!
just make it so blue mages can only get a blu specific achievement for clearing them instead of necro. simple.
Deep Dungeon balance doesn't fucking matter anyway. Just compare MCH and WAR to anything else.
>MCH
>WAR
You didn't beat it. Simple as.
XDDD IT'S JUST LIKE ELDEN RING LE YOU DIDN'T BEAT IT HEHEHE I SAW THAT MEME ON TWITTER OMG IT'S SO FUNNY YOU LE DIDN'T BEAT IT HEHEHE
You aren't a necromancer.
Miss me yet?
god yes
Not really
I really feel at this point like there were only two writers worth a shit on the team carrying the game really hard while everyone else struggled to keep track of even one story thread.
And they both got put on XVI during these patches.
This post patch story was an opportunity to demonstrate that the MSQ is still worth caring about after the main arc got wrapped up. It is failing in this regard.
It's just a filler arc to tie up one more loose thread, that will just lead into discovering the actual problem. The worrisome part is that this writer is apparently the one who's writing 7.0 and he can't even keep track of whether Zero follows her one rule or not for a patch and a half.
>he worrisome part is that this writer is apparently the one who's writing 7.0
Who's the writer at the moment? I need a name.
Oh, this fucker?
>wrote 4.2 and 4.4 (both trash)
>wrote 5.1 and 5.5 (both mediocre)
>wrote mhach and pandaemonium (mhach was mediocre and pandaemonium is trash)
>wrote the BRD quests (absolute shit) and BLM quests (I forgot what even happened
>DNC quests lol
>ShB magic DPS role quests lol
This guy has the biggest amount of bad contributions in the entire writing team, holy shit. No fucking wonder the post-MSQ content for EW is so bad.
Someone just fire this fucker.
wait this is the retarded writer who thought that "what's my name" scene was so clever? 7.0 is doomed.
What scene?
it's in pandemonium, when fake lahabrea appears after the carbuncle fight.
I don't even remember that scene. EW is the first expansion that has made me skip MSQ cutscenes due to how fucking bad 6.1 and 6.2 were.
>7.0 is now not only going to suffer the same no content as EW, but also have a terrible story to boot
guess this game is finally going to die, but at least I got to play it back when it was good.
I'll finally have a good justification for unsubbing beyond "I need a break."
>going to die
Lmao no Yoshi P secured the second life crowd and they alone will be this game's life support. Hope you enjoy in game clubs.
how high are the chances he'll btfo us before 7.0?
I pray that he does. I put all my hopes on him suddenly turning this into some sort of masterpiece that makes every dumb moment leading to it suddenly somehow make sense.
I just don't think he will.
Hiroi something something. He was in the live letter, I'm sure someone can post the screencap of what he's worked on.
yes, the new storyline is an absolute trainwreck.
honestly the game should had ended after the zenos fight and there should had been a timeskip or something untill you come back
>Great antagonist in Emet-Selch.
>Great deuteragonist in Ardbert.
>All of the Scions actually had a good part to play and actually felt like a proper rpg party.
>Had a few lovable secondary npcs like Feo Ul or Lyna and even some that had a cool character arc of their own like the Chais.
My only lament is that it leaned so much on not having absolutely anyone else from the rest of the game mixed in. Made it feel like it was all temporary and disconnected, kinda like the feel one gets watching an OVA or a movie from a long running anime.
>Join dungeon roulette
>Tank&healer have the same last name
>They flirt in party chat and emotes constantly during the dungeon with each other
Is this some kink that some people like making others uncomfortable? I don't get it. Why are XIV players so horny in general?
I have found my new wife.
You guys look like you share a family tree.
She's a Roe I'm a Highlander, not the same race
she's one of the NPC's for the ladies day in Ul'dah watching the dancing
It was raining so I gave her some shelter.
I exclusively interact with NPC's only
ok but why is she so far away and why are there two men in the foreground
i am wishing you well with your new bear wife and her penis-crushing vaginal strength
Cute Japanese wife, I like her. Shame you got two ugly beasts taking up most of the picture.
Not voice acting Werlyt was a horrible decision. They need to go back and do it.
Yeah, having one of the most bombastic and over the top villains in the entire game be unvoiced was a wierd decision. Same with having Gaius go through some of the most emotional scenes he's gone through and have them be unvoiced.
Also we didn't get to hear Cid describe in loving detail how his children suffered excruciating deaths.
>Also we didn't get to hear Cid describe in loving detail how his children suffered excruciating deaths.
He really did jump at the opportunity to fuck up his day, didn't he?
>been unsubbed since November
>desperately want to play the game
>there’s fuck all to do this xpac if you’re not a raidchud
>even raidtrannies are seething because they have too many raids to do and no casual content they can grind afterwards to unwind
Ummm your 100 floors of orthos??
And your free relic??
>new potd mount is another shitty radioactive cat mount
God I hate EW mounts
Cant believe they made the gemstone mount so ugly lmao
Hunt one too
I went to 3 nightclubs tonight, soaked up the atmosphere, had a drink, watched everyone spamming their dance emotes, and left.
I like the idea of the nightclubs, i wish i could roleplay and immerse myself in my character like those guys but I can't.
how do you even find these
playing on eu btw
i stood around gridania, limsa and uldah and saw people spamming their nightclubs in the chat. Just used that info and went to them.
Go to a main city, go take a piss and your shout should be filled with ads from one shitty club or another. They're fucking everywhere on Light at least
>how do you even find these
Or degen discords
Not him, but the Other section of Party Finder is usually filled with them, though it varies by world and DC.
Those second life rejects are probably the reason why patches are going to be so barren moving forward.
I want you to write everything you think as stream-of-consciousness so that I can study you for science, I am completely enamored with how you came to this conclusion.
As an actual roleplayer, I hate nightclubs. There's no real attempt at immersion anymore, there's nobody who actually wants to try and tell interesting stories in this world or grow a character. At least none that I can find. Ever since this nightclub trend the roleplaying scene feels dead.
Nobody wants to actually be immersed, it's just about jacking off to modbeasts and ERP
For me the best ERP is immersive, part of an ongoing story. There are only so many ways you can write out sex scenes before they get dull. You need to flavor them with story context.
>anymore
There never was. There's a reason everyone refers to those types of players as second life rejects, because they literally are.
The nightclub scene has indeed killed the traditional RP scene in XIV, for the most part. You can still find it, but good luck.
I visited 4 nightclubs and I shit you not although there were plenty of people in them, it felt completely fucking dead, no a single person using the chat box, must have been 50 people in one of the clubs, nothing just dancing emotes.
It's like that old cliche of never feeling so alone than being in a crowd of people.
I think you're supposed to be in a discord server or something. Most of the clubs advertise those in PF at least
Why
Yeah I figured as much, they posted their twitch stream link for the dj, discord link too. I just want to talk with people in game why do I need 2 or 3 or 4 other windows open to interact in this game? It's getting retarded
same thing for me every time I go to limsa, I can shout looking for a crafter and my message will still be there in the box five minutes later
I have better luck in gridania, it must be the proximity to nature that heals the mind
it's very rare to find someone who can play along. ffxiv is full of degenerates who just want to erp and "mare" or stand around idly. their level of "roleplay" is what you can expect from shit like second life, just standing around, talking about degenerate crap. or afk dancing in a nightclub while someone blares some crappy remix on twitch instead of having a bard. if it's a "chill cafe", it'll be completely dead, no attempt at roleplay, with harsh rules about where you're allowed to sit or some shit.
the only emotes they use are /dote or /hug or whatever else facilitates their erp fetish.
i usually do spontaneous roleplay. as an example, if i see someone doing /playdead, i'll act out like a detective investigating a crime scene. sometimes i like to be a public nuisance, bullying people for their gil. i also like to pretend i have a god complex like a character in a anime.
it's rare to find someone who's actually good at roleplay and use emotes effectively while not taking things too seriously.
some of the best fun i've had in the game came from good roleplays. i don't play so much anymore though because too many degenerates.
Get used to it as I am pretty sure nightclubs are the latest cultural wave in roleplaying. They're replacing the more irreverent and quirky critical roll/superhero/modern D&D style roleplayers, who replaced the soap opera snob noble house type roleplayers. All of these have co-existed and overlapped, but there are different eras where they were in ascendancy and more prevalent.
Secondly, think about the XIV community in more recent years. Endless witch-hunting, crusading, mean-girls shit. You don't get an active community with drama-club mean-girls nonsense.
There are very good roleplayers. And that's not me because I am a degenerate erper who just erps. But I am friends with them and I see them get up to it - just in private in their FCs. And I don't blame them one bit because I've seen nothing great come from community involvement. One on one interacting with strangers? Yeah that shit is great.
>only way to find good roleplay is to already know someone
What is the apparent background of the WoL? It seems like he is a foreigner of some kind, since he isn't familiar with the goings-on of Eorzea or Isghard.
I got my Cronus Lux.
Grats bro, this and the last two Shb relic steps are the best
No. Everything before Innocence was generic JRPG shlock with no redeeming qualities. Everything after Innocence was kino
>gave us content out the ass that carried the game through an entire 12 month long content drought in 2021
what the fuck happened between ShB and EW? The devs have been working on FF16 since SB so don’t give me that as an excuse. Feels more like the game got a drastic cut in budget.
FF16 is the main excuse I'd say, but on top of that they probably didn't expect the surge in popularity the game got and now it's printing them free money, unless more people get vocal about the game's criticisms they'll just leave it as.
im appalled that nobody has done any janny ai with vauthry yet
didn't they lobotomize voice AI?
isnt there still vids going out of that shit?
god I fucking love tall bungals
you're gonna need that chair to eat the rabbit pussy
i fucking hate lalafell players, sorry anon I had to say it.
i hate the lewd ones
normal ones are okay
QRD on the pyromancer drama?
Why is he seething at Xeno?
>Lalafags crying about the chair causes people to call them whiny gay weirdos
>Pyromancer says the treatment of Lalafell players as pedophiles is equivalent to real life racism
>Xeno says he's a retard for thinking that
>Pyro melts down
Pyromancer is a wet gay who is here or there, but Xeno's I really hate his hard man grift.
I've seen people saying how he's the "daddy" of ffxiv and they wished they could be as hardcore as he is.
Seriously do people really buy into his fake tough man image? Bald head and a beard is all it takes these days.
Xeno is s o y as fuck but to the average XIV player he probably does seem like a badass working dad with big arms who will help change the oil in their car.
I don't think the guy has ever lifted in his life, his body is smaller than the cardio bunnies you find in gyms.
It does say a lot though about the type of person who is calling him a hardcore "manmode".
Kek, I really want to slap his bald head.
Xeno actually worked blue collar jobs before turning full time streamer. He's 6'4" lifts weights and could snap your neck.
That bald bearded gay can't even beat FFXIV without cheating, I'd fuck his wife and he'd thank me for it because he's literally into cuckoldry.
define cheating? Did he do TOP or something with bossmod or triggers?
He uses everything available to him because most high end players do. His opinion on the whole TOP cheating thing is that everyone does it so Yoshi-P should just give the okay to the addon community to stop the controversy
Do you have citations for this?
Any of his streams from like two months ago when the TOP stuff was going on
could you actually link said streams where HE is the one cheating, not discussing the cheating? Isnt the most that was seen on his streams/youtube was him metering his raids?
He doesn't show anything on stream, but that's just a matter of not showing overlays
Xenos once again having the worst fucking take possible, I'm so glad he's banned from the media tour shit those streamers want so much with YoshiP. I love how much it makes him seethe.
Dude asking for citations, don't be a gay what the fuck is this? An academic people? Either believe the other anon or don't, asking for "SOURCE SOURCE, WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE" is real gayry, use your judgement for once for fuck sake.
Anyone who hasn't done raiding in WoW should go play that first and then give their opinion on addons.
I can't believe anyone who has raided high end in both, and actually cares about the experience of raiding, would want shit like WeakAuras.
FFXOV is the only mmo i've played, i looked in on WoW raiding and holy shit, how the fuck can they pretend that's raiding? With all the mods they use the game is pretty much playing itself, how the fuck is that "hardcore" raiding?
That is what gays like Asmongold was saying about "hey bro you can't raid unless you're this good"
moron your raids play the game for you with the mods you've got.
>In 5 seconds move back
>"insert mechanic" is about to happen
>countdown to spread
>move to this safe area
The text speech is fucking hilarious actually telling them what to do, holy fuck dude.
Yeah, glad XIV doesn't have anything like th...
FFXIVfags are pathetic with how they scream about how addons in WoW are easy mode and yet their WFers and high end groups cheat anyway. What's worse is how most of the fights (or at least huge parts of them in the case of Ultimate) are just dances to memorize with little to no variation between pulls. If it takes you months to clear one fight that isn't an accomplishment, it's pathetic muscle memory. Anyone who takes more than a month or say, 48 hours at max, to clear one fight is either mentally challenged or playing in a group with learning impaired players, made worse by the fact the raid sizes are much smaller.
WoW mods are dev encouraged, FFXIV mods are not.
WoW has much more variety in mechanics and how to deal with them than FFXIV does, which mostly just boil down to movement and personal responsibility. While Ultimates are good, FFXIV would benefit more without them, and Alliance Raids are straight up a waste of resources for content obsolete on release. I really feel like the raid tiers should have 6 bosses, with Floor 6 being on par with Ultimate in difficulty but in a fight that isn't bloated to 20 minutes in length.
>14 gay spewing nonsense
Yeah everyone cares about your opinion on non-mythic raids. In the fights that matter, just knowing about something that is coming out next means very little because everything overlaps. In 14, an addon telling you whats upcoming breaks the game because the raids are just and endless series of standing in a certain place at a certain time and rinse repeat. There are no interesting add fights in FF14, there are no interesting multi target boss fights, no interesting use of the environment etc.
RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL
>triggers
This, or rather I think it was a discord bot making automated callouts.
I don't think that's that bad but hey call it cheating if you want to.
>makes lame react content, and especially lame react content about one-sided drama
xeno sucks
Most of the xiv community cant grow a beard so yes
Anyone melting over the chair is a fucking gay, but Lalas are pretty controversial in the west. You either love them or you fucking hate them, nobody really seems to be in between
>Can’t carry Y’shtola when she comes out of the Lifestream because of Lalafell
>Can’t hug Alisaie when she’s breaking down over Ga Bu or in Coils because of Lalafell
>Can’t carry Y’shtola again when she comes out of the Lifestream again because of Lalafell
>Can’t do anything to support Alphinaud over Arenvald because of Lalafell
>Can’t hug Alisaie in ShB because of Lalafell
>Can’t headpat Ryne because of Lalafell (interview confirms they had to remove this after planning it)
>Can’t support G’raha when he’s faltering because of Lalafell
>Can’t hug any of G’raha, Alisaie or Alphinaud before they leave you, can’t even shake their hands because of Lalafell
>Can’t have Hydaelyn die in the WoL’s arms because of Lalafell
The crimes Lalafell have committed against the narrative are many, and they can never be forgiven.
Well, at least I got to do a toast with Y'shtola.
Because at least lalafell can't fuck up an animation of two cups clinking off frame.
we couldn't carry y'shtola in her burrito form because it'd break immersion that my WoL didn't ravage her right then and there in the mud, prying eyes be damned
...why did Kan-E just summon Y'shtola in a spot so she'd fall in a pool of mud?
Was she planning to get some naked mud wrestling going until she realized she was in no condition?
the earth and water spirits begged her to let them cop a feel
>thinks the dev team would go through the effort of doing any of this even if lala weren't a thing
>Devs literally talked about how they planned and storyboarded those sequences out but couldn't make them work with Lalafell so scrapped them
I fucking hate LALAFELLS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why believe their lies? 1.0 made it work.
1.0 didn't have anything like any of those sequences. Lalafel quite literally cannot headpat Ryne, or offer G'raha a shoulder when he's struggling up the Crystal Tower, or lift Y'shtola without the scene looking ridiculous, or even hug Alisaie in any manner that isn't outright ridiculous.
And because Lala's can't do that, then nobody gets to. 1.0 barely let Lala's do anything and faded to black anytime they actually needed to focus a scene around them just the same.
You know, now that you mention it, that one cutscene that often gets posted from 1.0 of the two lalafells beating up a pair of midlanders always cuts to off frame once the lalafells have to actually touch anything.
>Lala is the most popular race in JP
>Devs only care about JP
>Blame Lalas for lack of animations
It's the tall races that block Lala specific cutscenes, not the other way around
See:
No joke, there is a big pedophilia rights outrage right now in FF14. Somehow Pyro thinks lalafell don't resemble children at all, and thinks its akin to racism to have the chair designed for children.
>*WAOWs in your path*
>Second life for chuds and gays
>100 hours of mmo story and fetchquests
>game?
I'm doing palace of the dead as a black mage, mostly because the MSQ has a gap till 49 and some anons said it was good
I feel like I'm totally ineffective and I figure that's just skill rotations not being used right
What should I be doing at late 40's? Spamming F1 for firestarter procs and swapping to ice when I'm low on mana is slow but it was everything I did prior to this
Please respond
>What should I be doing at late 40's?
Basically what you said; Fire 1 until you're low on Mana, then use Blizzard 3 to immediately enter ice phase, Blizzard 1 until you're topped off, then back to fire phase with Fire 3
BLM is one of those jobs that changes it rotation priority as you get better spells or quality of life upgrades every ten levels, so understanding how it plays at lower levels is a smart idea
I miss Zenos.
"if you miss him so much, you can name an island sanctuary animal after him" --Yoshida-san
>chud fantasy, 14 (yr olds)
The people who play this gay game should have to register and tell their neighbors they like dressing up as half naked children in video games.
>good questline made shit because no voice acting
It was just awkward to watch.
yooo we talkin' WoW? what's poppin Yoshi... we should collab sometime or something lol
is it sad i actually nutted to this fr
I might as well if I hadn't fapped a while ago, that's a good one.
hold I might have some other good ones
WoW dungeons and raids are designed around all their addons meaning they make the content still difficult despite them. Your game gets trivialized by some drawn lines lmao
deadmines is harder than anything in your sissy game. sad!
>What is AVR
>What is Mythic Archimonde getting the radar removed
blizzard fixes addons that go to far, squeenix close their eyes and pretend they don’t exist
Yugiri! Yugiri! Yugiri!
I'm posting Nophica
OH FU-
That new Ryne lewd by lazyprocrastinator..
My dick is still tingling..
>travel to b*lm*ng to meet a friend
>ul'dah shout chat is discussing if playing hogwarts legacy is transphobic or not
ask them if they have smartphones
trannies are STILL seething about it?
catgirl armpits
using the scouter to find out the size of the newest adventurer's cock
MY TURN
UOOOOOOOOHHH Ryne's prime teen pussy
she's a CHILD
Is it Trancred nailing her?
chud game
chud post
Not sure why you say that. The story was as generic as it gets.
aight this bun is non-standard, so be careful
Ugly
Ugly
Ugly
Ugly
Ugly
Get better taste, I beg of you.
hey man, tell that to the guys in CC
Why bother saving this trash?
cuz there might be funny ones lol
None of these are funny.
well duh they are BUNNY pics
You said there might be funny ones but they are all bunnies. Can you not tell the difference between funny and bunny?
>Generic tab target mmoshit
yike
this is like the nikocado poster but worse
No way, I've had enough of Nikocado's asshole for a lifetime. Probably more if reincarnation is a thing.
cats > buns
i require cute moonies
this bitch looks like she could fail and IQ test
>fail and IQ test
>fail and IQ
>and IQ
Why are XIV threads so bad now?
maintenance mode
mental illness
Gameplayfags left and only the coomers remain
Vauthry did nothing wrong.
cuz ur here
People who complained about eureka/bozja won and now we get less long term mid-casual content in favor of giga casual content that dies in 1 day
>SE panders to raidchuds with DRS, dedicating a shitload of resources and assets just for them
>DRS is abandoned in a week, now it's ultradead content that no one touches
SE learned their lesson about catering to you ungrateful sweaty gays.
Wrong. It's almost like you don't do the content so you have no idea or something
>posts a literal who discord chud screenshot
Like I said, dead content.
>the biggest discord for organizing DRS runs doesn't count bec--ACK!!
>content so dead it's only ever used by discord users
I bet you think Rival Wings is alive too
DRS and BA were always organized in discords because they require at least some tiny level of coordination and that's too much to ask of NA servers.
Cope detected in sector gay
No one sane cares about ultimates. At this point people only look forward to the drama it creates
>inb4 people jump on me saying Im too bad to do them
All you get from is is an eyesore weapon you afk in a popular spot for (You)s
Good thing those resources were better spent on uhhhhh
>DRS is abandoned in a week
yikes, didn't know limsa afkers were this out of touch with the game they supposedly play. Did you know crafting and gathering exists
6.3 and 6.35 were DOA.
damn you were right, these ARE shit lol
cats are next
fuk u
j/k
>want to play a race that looks good in armor with no tails or ears clipping
>highlander and elezen both make paulrons sit at awkward angles and trigger my autism
why
just have lalafels standing on a lifter whenever they need to physically interact with someone in cutscenes from now on
Waaaayyyy too much effort from small indie dev team.
have them walking around with these
adding insult to injury
Please save this thread with Lalas.
I'M A GREAT WIZARD
I SHALL MAKE A PURPLE ASSHOLE APPEAR
really wish I had done the dragoon quest before I finished the aery MSQ
saturday night lads, what we running?
Blitzball kick in the new Hildibrand quests, or was I having a stroke?
this is the second time they've done something that makes you think of blitzball in that quest chain.. Is it a hint?
Yeah anytime someone kicks anything it's a FRICKIN REFERENCE TO THE GAME I PLAYED AS A KID OH MY GOOOOD DID HE JUST KICK ANYTHING OMG IT'S BLITZBALLLL!!!
Yes.
it was the fucking jecht shot just without the 5minutes of spinning
The Jecht shot is a backflip you bitchass secondary
damn taking the aetherpool to 99 takes a while....
dead shit chud game
>crystal
still a kino game but jesus fucking christ lol
how does anyone even get that braindead to feel the need to be so obnoxious about it? im cool w chuds anyways but still, fuccccc
fr fr bro, sheesh
I think it's actually the one Tidus makes up on the spot to dab on his dad
Not canon to my game, I missed the shot.
kino
OH MY GOD IT'S BALL SHAPED IS THAT A BLITZBALL REFERENCEEEEE
OH FUCK I SEE IT
OH MY GOOOOOOD SPIRAL = SPIRA
>fairies
>dwarves
>two ugly brown shit zones
>nier raids
>eden plot just "member this boss" with yuribait
>bozja
>gave us graha, permanent fagboy fujo fanservice character that will never ever go away now
Dunno man, Shadowbringers was not that good. Has just as many bad things as every other xpac.
I SAID IT'S OVER
DOOMINGWAY
chudfantasy is fucking dead
Barry's awake and chuding out
Pedochud dead game
>Au Ra heating lamps
Sounds comfy I want one
i fucking hope this is satirical
as a lala chad myself I do..
those items do sound funny
also
> wearing that on a lala
>Miqo'te Sandbox
>Au Ra Heating Lamps
I don't understand.
cats poop in litterboxes
lizards bask in sunlight
The lalapedo cries as he strikes you
was Wakka's weapon a blitzball reference too?
which job got shat on/left to rot the most by the devs time and time again? PLD? MNK?
gay
>still a kino game but jesus fucking christ lol
>
>how does anyone even get that braindead to feel the need to be so obnoxious about it? im cool w chuds anyways but still, fuccccc
GET ON THE FUCKING LIFTER, POLULU
so much content in this latest patch such as
let's see your 20k hoards achievement
>final relic step will require a rare item that you can only get via rank 12 island with at least one fully upgraded workshop, granary and four landmarks
No, it'll probably be fates or more tomes.
Done.
Make it so one of the landmarks HAS to be the odder fountain
Here's your relic Machinists.
>final relic step will require three items that you can buy for 500 tomestones each
>final relic step will require three items that you do ARR like books, for every xpac as a big final lap of the entire 10 year game
woah thats too hardcore
make it 2 items
>final relic step requires items that end up costing 100k cowries total
Ez
Do you fully automate your island? or do you have to gather to keep that up?
Almost fully automated.
You just need to create the animal feed every now and then and arrange the workshop's schedule for the week.
You dont need to gather the materials yourself. You get all of them and more from the granary.
15k avg week for normies would be about 7 weeks.
sounds about right for a relic grind
3 free relics for me then
the game didn't have to give us Ryne but it gave us her anyway
>nightclubs
>dance clubs
>RP venues
I have no idea what goes on in these and every time I see a video of someone participating in anything of the sort they just stand around awkwardly and nothing happens. Why don't people organize real events where you do something productive?
An old FC of mine had Wolves Den duel tournaments which were pretty neat.
i couldn't get through stormblood it was so boring
The filter claims another
nta but a filter is supposed to be something like a skill check. that would be respectable. something being a boring as fuck waste of your time is not a filter. it's a shitty game.
The filter never fails to stop the zoomer gays. Go back to WoW.
This is THE zoomer MMO, what the fuck are you talking about?
You got filtered zoomie bitch, don't come back
what the fuck? I play ffxiv and even i can admit ffxiv is the zoomest mmorpg of them all.
BRATTY LITTLE ANON
NEEDS SPAR CORRECTION
yoshipiss knew there was a huge content drought incoming as money and devs were being moved to ff16/other projects, so why not release a semi-engaging long term grind with some nice cosmetics to boot?
bro your IS?
i said engaging. island is mindless, solo mobile tier "gameplay"
>Island sanctuary
>engaging
>long term grind
>nice cosmetics
Maxed out weeks ago.
pretty sure yoshipiss is scared shitless of introducing any type of grind considering the current playerbase - modbeasting and afking
a shame, as group grinds are the soul of any mmo
doom harder sisters
its not dooming. its stating facts.
Those types of players aren't going to do it anyway, fuck them. They should have never become the target audience. Assholes deserve to be banned, all of them.
There was an interview where he said the people he'd normally assign to that are working on 7.0. This whole expansion is a dud.
link? sounds interesting
I don't know how to find it, it was almost a year ago
What a way to waste all of that growth the game had during the Endwalker hype train. It's unironically all downhill from here. It will never reach those heights again.
according to the latest luckybancho census game is still doing fine
>shitload of people going in as new expac nears
>shitload of people leaving during expac postgame
Isn't that how it has always been?
yes it is. and according to the latest luckybancho census the game is actually retaining more players than usual
MMORPGs are not RPGs.
it was mogged by Battle For Azeroth, I remember it vividly.
refusing to eat shit is not a filter
sounds like something a filtered man would say...
>he's still here
Go play something else zoomer
>get bored of the game
>keep a sub and literally log in once a week to play the giant cactpot only
>i finally win the main prize
i guess there's no reason for me to stay subbed now..
convince me between fem elezen or highlander
Female Elezen.
Highlander is basically playing a male.
>best protomander is a lalafell
please kys avatarfag. Even with the hat we know its your gremlin ass
>literally the new relic requires 0 (zero) grind
>this is totally NOT a zoomer mmorpg
How much of a cultist you have to be to believe this lmao.
Cope zoomzoom
>No RPG elements because zoomers are scared of being made fun of for making a shit build
>You can teleport anywhere at any time because zoomers are too impatient to deal with shit like waiting for boats and airships
>Zones are completely devoid of any danger because zoomers can't handle mobs that can actually put up a fight
>MSQ is braindead easy because zoomers just want to read a VN where the NPC's fellate their self insert
>Dungeons are straight lines because zoomers are paralyzed by the thought of potentially going the wrong way or pulling something they can't handle
This shit's fire fr fr no cap
didn't read you sound mad tho
>muh zoomers
This is a zoomer game made with the zoomer audience in mind. No amount of MUH FILTER can ever change that.
Filtered. Bitch.
This was all stuff that happened in 2013 before zoomers were born
>You can teleport anywhere at any time because zoomers are too impatient to deal with shit like waiting for boats and airships
This would be fucking awesome if only the world zones themselves had anything worthwhile in them to see or do while trekking across them. There's absolutely zero reason to do any fates except the handful of rare event boss ones
I don't get how relics turned into casual welfare weapons when the original purpose was for them to be ultimate weapons.
You have ultimate weapons. Go get them.
What does that have to do with my post?
You literally said ultimate weapons.
You know there's more in that post than just those two words, right? Are you fucking stupid?
Cope. You lost.
Do you just not understand what my post was saying, or what? I know there are weapons currently that drop from ultimate level content and that those are considered ultimate weapons now. That has absolutely fucking nothing to do with my post, which was wondering about how relics turned from the ultimate weapons to casual welfare content. Fucking idiots.
nah he's right, you left yourself wide open on that one
Savagefags threw a tantrum. That was all it took to ruin the game for everyone else.
>Savagefags threw a tantrum.
Why?
in his imagination, savage raiders are moaning the lack of grind for a weapon with a lower item-level than abyssos weapons that they get by actually doing savage
>endbryos telling other people they're retarded and showing their ignorance about the game's history
Every single day
that reminds me
/endbryo/i;boards:v;stub:no
/endbryos/i;boards:v;stub:no
/shadowbab*/i;boards:v;stub:no
goodbye forever anon
We both know you're not gonna turn those on because then you won't be able to reply with your usual seethe
Back in ARR, the relic was bis.
Savagefags felt invalidated because of this.
>Homogenized classes
>2 min rotations
>No cool weapon grind
>Turning healers into single button mashing
>Ignoring all content that isn't "hardcore"(not like endwalker has a lot of it)
Is there anything raid fags won't ruin?
You say this, but all my hardcore static mates hate 2min meta, hate how homogenized the game is, and have been doing every content that's come out. Most of em just finished the new deep dungeon and are going for a solo run now. They're also sad the new relic isn't grindy like the previous ones were since it doesn't give them an incentive to log on.
It's not the casuals or raidfags that wanted any of this btw.
Don't reply to that retard newfag
He says it every thread and gets btfo every time
He's going to go on a 20 reply sperg fest about it without providing any evidence
>It's not the casuals or raidfags that wanted any of this btw.
lol yes it is. Raidfags made everything about buff stacking and excluded jobs that didn't fit buff stack timers and told the devs to make everything align so they aren't """forced""" to kick out certain jobs. Then they got what they wanted, realized the consequences, and tried to shift the blame. They've done this every expansion with one mechanic or another.
Actual hardcore raidfags keep to themselves in their own group. They'll take whatever comp is optimal for a speedkill. If I wanted to kill a boss fast, I'd play with my static who will always choose whatever meta comp dominates the leaderboards. This doesn't affect anyone outside our group, and outside speed we play whatever we want since it doesn't matter.
PF on the other hand MIGHT look at what the top players play and try to mimic this, but that has nothing to do with hardcore raiders themselves who will stick to their own group. If a hardcore raider jumps into PF, they're probably parsing (in which case they really don't care what you bring they know PF sucks and will get them a better kill time than going for speed) or they're just playing to play the game.
~~*Midcore*~~ raiders, I'm talking about fags who clear a tier months late, have cleared ucob and uwu 2 expansions later (and maybe tea after a few months), and boast their "The Legend" title in limsa, these fags are the ones bitching about class imbalance. Hardcore raiders just want classes to be fun again like they used to be much like casuals do.
hardcore raiders play whatever and have no attachment to a job
it really is midcore retards yet again ruining it for the casual and hardcore players with their desire to be viable or follow a "meta"
getting real sick of midcore retards stuck in the mindset of 2 melee 1 caster 1 ranged and other BS like locking MCH, BLM, PLD etc...out of parties so they can get carried by the """""""""meta""""""""" because they're worthless trash
I've never seen my friends list so empty so soon after a patch. It's insane.
unironically this.
DSR cannot give us high ilvl shit because savage
ultimate cannot give shit cuz savage
any other content in the game can't give gear cuz savage
That mentality of the devs is worse than wow tbqh but i know people will crucify me for saying that.
For Gordias because A3S and A4S were stupidly hard and the relic was the same ilvl, for some reason SE didn't realize the problem was exclusive to Gordias and just kept it the same way forever. Raiders wouldn't give a fuck with the current difficulty if the relics were the same ilvl as the raid weapons. In fact, I doubt most raiders would care if the 24-man just gave raid ilvl gear. Raiders don't care about what happens with gear on the odd patch because they're already done with the tier and have a BiS on the jobs they care about.
1500 red tomestones per weapon still requires work, it's just the easiest way of getting them is a hunt train. 27k or so red tomestones for all relics ain't easy or quick. It's fine if you just want one relic, then it's not nightmarish. If you want more than one relic that's when things get sticky.
>cry that ARR books are too grindy
>cry that there is no grind
MMO devs can't win with the retards who play them.
ARR is way too grindy, books are just the first circle of Hell. The 100 Aurum Vale runs after are Cocytus.
and now we have a game you expire all content on patch day.
Show me the Gankerirgin that claims to have all Amazing Manderville weapons done in a day and I'll show you a liar.
>getting a relic for every job
Do people really do that?
I do if I'm bored or I like the weapon.
Well yeah, it's content
right?
well which is it are they too easy to get or is it not worthwhile to get them all
Doing the same content 12 times does not make it new content. Doing it once is all it takes.
are they too easy to get or is it not worthwhile to get them all
its too easy to get one (the amount 99% of people will engage with) and its not worthwhile to get them all
Yeah... Imagine being that guy
nah farming all of that would only be made by a sperg with no life.
wheredoyouthinkweare.gif
a thread full of casuals recoiling at the thought of a relic grind
you just got done complaining about no-life spergs being the only people that would grind out all the EW relics
But all you fags have been doing ITT is crying that the current relics aren't a nolife sperg grind
you moron gays piece of shit don't understand balance? Why you morons hafve to go all the way to full no life grind or no grind at all? HOLY FUCK
Calm down incel
So go ahead, lay out what you think the balance should be. This thread is on Page 10, so I greatly look forward to your plan in a future thread.
It was a Covid project, EW Relics are easy mode, so why not?
>It was a Covid project
Job said, "don't come in". I said ok. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I watched 1980s films in a months long marathon with my brother who worked third shift. Yeah I had fun.
You wouldn't post this shit in a fresh thread, coward. You always wait until page 10.
On page 10 we can let the shit flow
I have these saved though
I mean i get it. I cannot tell you how to live your life. I just hope you actually had fun
It just infurate me how everyone in this site just go from extremes and cannot be in the middle.
>everyone is stupid, not like me i'm a centrist i don't have opinions so i'm never wrong
i feel bad for anyone that has images like that saved in their pc
there's a booru
>getting relic for every job
Nobody but the most pathetic retard does this.
Geez its almost like theres a middle ground between arr books and 1500 tomestones
FFXI have that purpose. The ffxiv UNIRONICALLY relic weapons are glam. Nothing more nothing less. THey're just glam. THey always look like shit also.
>THey always look like shit also.
Wrong. Only most of them look like shit.
True. But the rest of my post is all correct.
Stormblood is the only relic series with weapons that always look like shit
Every other expansion has weapons that variably look like shit
ARR had universally good first steps, HW has mostly good first steps (the ones you get with your AF, or if you played during HW that you bought), Eureka has excellent first steps (the ones you get with your AF), Bozja had universally good first steps and Endwalker has only one or two first steps that aren't fantastic
It's every tier past the first where things get dicey, and the base game + first two expansions in particular tend to not stick the landing with the final tier
this is gonna be my wife now.
no one can claim her, I calimer her first
After getting Cronus Lux I think that's gonna be the last HW relic I ever get because I literally do not like any of the rest enough to try and get them.
I just don't find the relics cool looking, beyond also being tired of XIV gameplay. I got extreme trial bosses for my glowy weapon indulgence, and SB gave me pretty much every katana flavor I want/need. I'll probably be happy with Meteion and the fiends primal weapons when they come out.
I wish we could get the sword with runes appearing on it without the garish glow.
>Final act expansion
>No gaius in FUCKING GARLEMALD
>No G Warrior action (piloted by arenvald endwalker)
>No diamond weapon kino fighting Red voidsents
But FUCKING AMON FROM CRYSTAL TOWER is a big bad AGAIN? Fucking gay ass shit.
>B-but I didn't do side content so I'm Lost D:
WELL FUCK YOU DID YOU DO ALEXANDER? DID YOU DO OMEGA YOU LITTLE SHIT? TURNS OUT THESE ROBOTS LITERALLY HARD CARRIED TEAM WOL BECAUSE OF CID. DID YOU DO THE HW HARD AZIS LLA DUNGEON? THEN HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW CID GOT HIS HANDS ON THE ULTIMA WARRIOR FUCKO?
GIVE ME THE FUCKING GIANT ROBOTS
>B-but lo
FUCK YOU AND FUCK GAIUS IN HIS TINY ADOPTED LIZARD GIRL PUSSY FOR NOT DONNING HIS ARMOR AGAIN AND TEARING OPEN ASSHOLES ON GARLEMALD WITH THE D WEAPON DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WE LOST? HE COULDVE PREVENTED THE DEPRESSIVE GENERAL'S DEATH OR KILLED HIM IN HONORABLE COMBAT. HE COULD HAVE JOBBED TO ZENOS HE COULD HAVE NUKED THE TOWER OF BABIL LET ME FUCKING REMIND YOU THAT FF4 THE TOWER OF BABIL FIGHTS YES FIGHTS A FUCKING GIANT ROBOT.
WE WERE ROBBED
Weapon project got shut down iirc
Cid scrapped the g Warrior? What the fuck why?
The G-Warrior itself wasn't decommissioned but there's no readily apparent need for it without other Weapons to fight. Garlemald eating itself and Valens' death ended the Ultima Weapon-derived projects on Garlemald's end.
>Fandaniel going full IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BARRY with Hermes and Amon
The fucking mad lad
I'm glad the general ate a bullet it was hilarious. But yes, Yoshi fumbled by making 6.0 and 7.0 one expac.
Honestly they should have just gone to 7.0 and then put XIV on maintenance and worked on a new MMO. This game is old and strained as fuck and it's just pushing 10 years, it's not going to last 10 years more.
>HE COULDVE PREVENTED THE DEPRESSIVE GENERAL'S DEATH
why the fuck would he do that, his suicide was representative of garlemald's pride dying
@630578127
meant for
>the shanty town of pyromancer
I have no idea what that sperg's endgame is. XIV is not the sort of game where you can burn every bridge possible and still expect to grow.
bro thinks he has it made as the lore guy when he's just a talking google search or wiki page. He'll disappear just as fucking ethys did to shill NFTs
No one comes to him for lore, in fact lorefags don't exist for XIV because the story is competently told and doesn't need a billion youtubers vomiting out speculation and theories.
i ever tell you guys about the time i destroyed pyro in triple triad?
i did stream snipe and found out that the three open rule doesn't reveal to you the same cards as it does your opponent. so if it shows me his 1, 2 and 5 star it can show them a different combination. i had been operating on the theory that it was the same. learning this really upped my game and i thank pyro for that
Great blogpost, the avatarfagging really sold it
Can you please stop posting new images, it's getting annoying having to add each new one to the filter.
Filter yourself, you squeaky voiced bitch.
your heart is soft and sullen. like porridge! the heart of a lala beats fierce and free!
as much as i hate avatarfags you genuinely went up a few points for me with this
what's the actually the most "sword" looking sword?
Law's Order?
You can just get a Crystarium Sword if you wanted a Law's Order Bastard Sword.
if their excuse for making relic weapon steps take less than 1 afternoon to complete is going to be that theres so many more jobs now and people want to farm them all why don’t they just make the steps meaty again but reward you with every relic instead of only on one job at a time
mentally ill people that grind all the relics for every job shouldn't matter to devs. But again they know their playerbase is full of chuds so....
>please waste my time harder daddy
>Zoomer can't handle grinds in an MMO
I get you have nothing else to spend your time on because you're a loser but don't make everyone else waste as much time as you
So much this!! tbh all these entitled chudcels need to get it through their head that asking for content is literally exclusionary and genuinely ableist. 1500 tomestones is nice and simple so everyone can get a weapon and feel welcome and valid
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE GAME I WANT TO DO THE /beesknees AT MY FAVORITE NIGHTCLUB
Zoomer MMO players are pathetic.
Some of us have lives and we deserve cool weapons too, cry to 4chan about it
Anybody who isn't willing to put the work in doesn't deserve shit.
See? Called it, it's a 4chantard
/pol/chuds are so fucking gross. They seriously expect us to play the game to get cosmetics? Are they for real? Why not just put it on the cash shop so I can just buy it and show it off in Limsa?
fuck you chud
Why play video games at all if you're instantly handed rewards? What's the point?
Uhhh because I want to just come home from work and feel good and happy and valid??? This is an escapism fantasy game and it's for everyone not just incel NEET 4chantards with no lives
>and feel good and happy and valid
If you're seeking that in videogames, anon. I'm trully sorry.
Not very grizzled old boomer of you to throw a fit about *not* having a grind, I'd have killed for dumb bullshit in XI to be lessened.
>boomer gets bored if he doesn't have some tripe to grind, staring flounder-eyed at the screen and clicking one bear ass after another
pyro detected !wife !wife !wife
have a nice day twitchmorons.
Explain me this
!wife
>Did you see that melty the WoWandy streamer had? Shit was a total bruh moment fr fr no cap
Sir, I am going to ask you politely to stop being an embarrassing moron.
>ignore glowshit weapons
>collect dungeon weapons
>dungeon weapons
???
Will it ever come to Xbox??????? Hello?????????
"please look forward to it someday"
okay, now what?
OH MY GOD ZEPLA JUST POOPED
Haha just wanted to let my favorite thread on Ganker know 🙂
>he's still seething
Good to know you're going to be assblasted all night
Noooo FFXIV sucks!
>its numbers are going up
>doomers have no answer for this
>McDonalds is popular so that means it's good
>food analogy
The Avengers is popular too.
?
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
IT'S
FUCKING
O V E R
>steamdb
Go look at lucky bancho retard.
>look at muh literal who unsourced headcanon cope
>epin shitposter moves from screeching about zoomers to screeching about "XIVfags" and "14 gays"
If the game erases more buttons from us next expansion I'm unironically quitting the game simple as that
the game's always had about the same number of buttons from ARR up to now, it's actually done nothing but gain buttons
...
summoner lost nothing of value and kept the egi abilities anybody cared about with the new carbuncle shield, don't @ me
>that didn't happen but it's good that it did
summoner, scholar and dark knight are the biggest button losers and despite Ganker complaints nobody misses the old iterations enough that the developers actually balked on their prunes and reworks the way that they did for *dragoon and astrologian* of all jobs, which were in response to samurai losing kaiten
quite why kaiten wasn't given back to samurai in a hotfix or major patch since then is a mystery but the blowback on that one was specified as being enough to put off other reworks, summoner though? scholar deprecating pet actions? dark knight getting redesigned and dark arts removed? not a peep
summoner doesn't count because they will literally never be happy. and i mean this. anyone who claims to be a summoner main can safely be ignored, no matter what era they played it in
...
2 major remakes and you had the RNG removed from your rotation. sounds like a plus to me
>had the RNG removed from your rotation
You're the moron responsible for this game being so shit.
you have bard and dancer for RNG. you will enjoy your Edgar Cowboy class
Imagine being so up your own asshole you defend Machinist's RNG.
>RNG??? on my """""RPG"""" game? NO WAY!
lmao
Every allcaps post you make that defends objectively shit parts of the game, just because you're an epic contrarian and you need engagement or else you'll shrivel and die, I just mentally substitute with one of those Rayman rabbids going BAHHHHHHHH.
that's a lot of words to say that you're mad and wrong
spamming 2 in your 1 2 3 combo to get a proc for an empowered 3 and then spamming 1 till you get a proc for an empowered 2 and then using your cooldowns is shit gameplay
RNG on the fucking 1-2-3 combo was so horrible I actually forgot about it and now I'm angry about it all over again.
>IT PLAYS DIFFERENT SO IT'S BAD!
Of course it's homestuck defending the sterile job design, who else could it be?
lmao it's the guy obsessed with Homestuck defending old Machinist, good night everybody I've had enough for one thread
no, it plays badly so its bad. i'm aware there are some gays who would glue thumb tacks to his keyboard if bleeding fingers gave you 1 dps, but that doesn't make you smart or a good player
>Playing the job well doesn't make you a good player, whining about it until it gets dumbed down for casualfags is what a good player does
it can be actual diarrhea being squirted onto your keyboard and some night-black moron on Ganker will praise it for being a unique experience, so much better than all those other samey jobs
>RNG? uuuhhhhhhh that's not e-sports friendly
>that didn't happen but it's good that it did
Man shutcho bro ass up fore I smack you.
Machinist's first design sucked all the way up until 3.4, 3.5, and putting Bard in the cuckshed just because it wanted a reloading gun-mage mechanic was asinine.
Machinist SUCKED in 4.X.
Machinist got a lot better in 5.0.
factually incorrect
this
I'm a summoner main and I'm always angry
I was happy in ARR.
If they erase buttons but give us upkeep mechanics or decision making in our rotations, I'd take it.
I guess it's time for us to admit that ChadowBringers was the GOAT?
Contentwise it's better than ShB
Job design wise EW is better because it's a more refined version of ShB's butchery.
Fuck no I meant ShB had better content.
EW's patches suck dick.
Stop replying to schizos and bait
speaking of schizos..
Oh no the avatarfag doesn't like gameplay discussion ;_;
The other one cried about lore discussion too, lmfao these creatures are beyond pathetic, so fucking needy
tell me, is the lalafell discord falseflagging as worlo players falseflagging ffxiv players run by barry in this thread?
Yep, there you are, funny you knew I was talking about you gay tumor
>so fucking needy
Why else anyone would be an avatarfag if it's not validation of their miserable lifes?
The future of this game looks extremely bleak tbh
Keep forcing this meme maybe one day it'll happen
ffxiv bros...?
pro players using an addon already play like this
now do it with your penis
Impressed the thread went this long. There's a janny deleting anything ffxiv and giving warnings
I was told that I could do DDs solo, but I got up to floor 10 of the new one and died from the bosses auto attacks.
retard
you gotta be 99+ on armor/weap
need aetherpool weapon and armor 99 first
You can do them solo but this one feels kinda tough. I'm a Necromancer and I struggled a bit through the first 10 floors but maybe I just need to get used to it. Get your aetherpool maxed if you haven't.
lalafell thighs! lore discussion! gameplay discussion! all these things will be yours, next time, on lalafell Ganker!