>Tidus and Yuna go on vacation to an island after he comes back in X-2
>they get into an argument
>Tidus kicks a blitzball that’s actually a bomb and it blows his head off killing him
>Yuna brings him back to life
>Later on some cunt shows up claiming to be Auron’s daughter
>she is a turbo bitch
>Tidus and Yuna break up because lol fuck you
>Sin comes back because someone wished for Sin to return (I wish I was joking)
>Now Yuna must go on another adventure to stop Sin for good once and for all again for real this time
Are you hyped for FF X-3? This is all canon I’m not even lying
Fuck you OP I completely forgot about this. Fuck Square
Reminder this all comes from the same writer of FF X. He literally raped his own work
Think about present year SE making a direct sequel to one of the mainline FF games. Just think about it for a second. No, ACTUALLY think about it.
Now realize that not only will the drama CD be completely ignored, but FFX-3 will be released as a limited time event in FFXIV or one of their many gacha games. They will never, NEVER do anything worthwhile for a final fantasy game that isn't 7.
Nomura already confirmed that FFX-3 will happen
>Nomura already confirmed that FFX-3 will happen
>source: my ass
Now fuck off
There's a sequel idea floating around every studio for every game. It means nothing.
>Nomura has drawn updated versions of Tidus and Yuna
>Also the two new characters from the audio drama (pic related)
>Literally said that X-3 is basically sleeping right now and an actual script has been written
>n-no this means nothing
A synopsis is not a script, dumbass. It's the wikipedia "plot" section of a few paragraphs. Someone scribbled down a few story beat ideas, Nomura sketched some ideas down because that's what artists do.
You really think they've got some solid plan in place for a game he admitted would not even be seriously considered until VII-R is finished?
Nta this is true but i dont think they would ever talk about having ideas for X-3 if they didnt want to do it. They have fucking basic designs for Tidus and Yuna, it is a lot. And you dont go saying these things to fans out of nowhere.
>And you dont go saying these things to fans out of nowhere.
A lot can change in a few years, and VII-R is going to take a decade to finish.
Yeah im not saying it will happen 1000% because even games that are in development can be cancelled. But it has more chances than any other project. The only other time those devs talked about wanting to develop one game before announcement it was FF7R
Also, seeing how the 2 parts are being developed at the same time, it wont take 10 years lol
The only reason for it to not take 10 years is because it will be canned at Part 2 and they'll be told to wrap that shit up asap.
Are you still in 2020, bro. Update the narrative.
Exactly, FF7 Remake Part 3 will come out either by the end of this year or early 2024. While Part 3 will come out by 2026 or 2027.
That's more of a "i'm not saying no but," answer. that's how you answer when you don't want to outright crush someone's hopes and dreams but just let them keep dreaming.
>drama CD will be completely ignored
Isnt this an objectively good thing?
>They will never, NEVER do anything worthwhile for a final fantasy game that isn't 7.
Nah they milked FFIV for all its worth. After VII will be X's turn.
It takes them decades to out a game out. You really give a shit about some sequel to shit you played as in your 40s and 50s? The fuck
Played as a kid in your***
I know the YouTube channels you watch have convinced you what you're speaking is English but I can assure you it isn't
There is such thing as a "main line" fantasy game? It was my understanding that every single game in the series had no real connection to each other and that they were all just spin offs.
Mainline just means the straight numbered games. There's a lot of VII spin-offs, the Dissidia games and mobile gachas that usually feature characters from multiple games now.
Google says the original was written by like 5 people
Anybody got the gif of Tidus kicking the ball and his head comes up? Good times
Came into this thread looking for this, bless you anon.
Is this .gif the magum opus of everything FFX related?
Yes, yes it is.
>my husband just died. I'm not looking for love, all I want is blitz.
>Tidus kicks a blitzball that’s actually a bomb and it blows his head off killing him
I still cannot believe that this is not only real, but no one stopped Nojima from publishing that shit. Jesus christ.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a writer shit on his work as hard as Nojima did with FF X. Like what was the purpose? And why did nobody at Square stop him?
And then he did it again with VII.
I think it was some kind of 5d-chess. Like, he probably thought: "Hmm? SE wants me to write a third game even though the first game had a satisfactory closure and the sequel they made was a disaster. I should make the shittiest plot in a video game to ever exist in order to stop them from making a new game.".
That or he was lucky or carried by the producer when he wrote the orignal game.
This was most definitely it. Not even 5D chess, the guy probably wanted off this ride after X
Seems to be a thing with japanese writers that, instead of just saying no to their superiors, they perform some weird form of self cuckery and protest by defiling their own work with d tier fan fiction plots. I will never get the japanese
if a worker doesn't follow what his boss tell him to do, then he's fired.
Anon, guys like Nomura wont get fired. At worst they expierence the Togashi treatment and thats it. He has done too much for the company
Kojima was the face of Konami and even a VP at one point, look what they did to him for not following the script.
A corporation will cut its own foot off if they think it will knock the wageslaves back down the ladder
>not following the script
Anon he was spending comical amounts of money over the budget on music and then released a demo without their consent
Also the fact that Konami was more interested in gacha at the time then anything else
Kojima tried to bankrupt the company so he could hang out with celebrities and try to live the Hollywood life.
Tabata was given his own studio at S-E, and they fired him later on. No one is safe
Must have some connection to hara kiri tradition
combo of artist autism a culture that eschews confrontation especially with organization superiors or people with more seniority
This is what the Wachowski chud did with the Matrix reboot so it's not like it doesn't happen in the West.
There's that Kamen Rider Faiz novel written by the original writer of the show but honestly, most kamen rider novels are fucked up beyond imagination.
>most kamen rider novels are fucked up beyond imagination.
In the Faiz novel, the main cast either gets killed or raped. Kusaka (rider Kaixa) raped Mari and keeps her as sex slave. He also kills a pregnant Yuka (swan Orphnoch) if I remember correctly. That's not all but let move to another one.
In the Ryuki novel, Ren is banging Yui on the side, Zolda's personal assistant has his mouth sown shut with a golden wire. Ouja was left in a toilet as a baby and had to eat literal shit.
Well fuck. Thanks.
Weren’t there other writers besides Nojima who worked on the original?
Japanese are capable of fucking their product lines like americans. It's just that is one author/team/studio a time instead whole corporations in unison.
>bring him back to life
>bring him back to life again
>Tidus is at risk of permanently dying if he finds out he was brought back again
The fuck was the point?
Just so this the writer trolling because he hated X-2 so much for retconning the original into a happy ending .
>he hated X-2 so much for retconning the original into a happy ending .
This honestly kinda makes sense
The OG ending was already perfect
You got any source for this? Also why would Sin, Seymour and the Yevon teachings return when the original ending gets rid of them if he liked it so much?
Serves you right for giving Square Enix attention after all this time
What’s even more baffling is that. ALL
of Yuna character development from
X-2 got erased. She went back to being a Christfag . The whole entire point was for her to live a life on her own and not be tied down to a predetermined fate and to realize religion was bullshit in Spira. But now suddenly she’s back to praying and not feeling herself if she doesn’t pray. What the fuck
Well its the easiest way to milk out another entry. Reset everyone's character development and repeat similar plot beats. We even have Sin back for one more ride.
You don't think that she was trying out being more carefree and ultimately decided it just wasn't for her? She never sought out attention or fame, she came from a small, humble island and was a humble girl herself.
But why would she suddenly go back to being religious when their religion was a lie and they rebelled against it at the end of FF X? That makes no sense
There were a great many people on Spira in X-2 who advocated for keeping to many of the teachings of Yevon, with some reforms of course. Especially among the older folks who'd grown up under it. Familiarity breed comfort. Yuna herself is analogous to the choices the people of Spira had to make. She had only ever known a humble, religious lifestyle until the end of her pilgrimage. She never expected to survive, and so the resulting celebrity and attention she received as the great savior of Spira would have been especially hard for her to deal with. So she retreated to what she knew best. Still helping people, but in a quiet way, without the celebrity.
New Yevon is different from old yevon.
So she went through her rebellious phase and wised up? Pretty realistic if you ask me.
She doesn't. If you read the novel, she still thinks the religious people are fucking retarded in her thoughts. The reason she looks priestly in the audio drama is because she's praying to Tidus' sex Fayth all the time to keep him from disappearing. The rest of her surface mannerisms and appearance are to make it easier for her to do that in secret from Tidus or anyone else by appearing as little ass possible among people and being withdrawn and stoic.
Does someone have the actual excerpt? I want to read it and laugh for myself.
It’s two separate media. One is from a book called FFX-2.5 and the other is an audio drama from the X/X-2 Remaster. You can listen to the audio drama on YouTube
"T: ""You giggled."
Y: "Its a secret."
Tidus spoke in a pitiful voice. It was funny, and unbearably adorable.
When she looked, Tidus was holding the back of his head.
Tidus looked around in surprise. Before his eyes, there was a ball, rolling slowly. It was the colour of tanned leather, about the same size they use in blitzball matches.
T: "A Blitzball!?"
Tidus started walking toward the ball, looking for it's owner.
After one step...
As Yuna watched the situation, she was surprised by the tears that suddenly started welling up. Her feelings were greatly shaken, and she couldn't stand. As she crouched on the ground, holding herself with both arms, she was overcome with unbearable sadness.
Just then, there was a huge sound. Yuna was blown back by a violent explosion, thrown, spinning through the air. Something flew in front of her eyes. It was Tidus' head, fixed in an expression of surprise.
Yuna lost consciousness.
Unsent: "Remember him.
His name... was Tidus, correct?"
An unknown voice called to Yuna.
It was Tidus' head, fixed in an expression of surprise.
This will never not fail to make me lose my shit . What were they thinking
Holy shit this is even better than I could have imagined.
So he didn't kick the ball, just walked towards it.
And was that also the argument? Sounds like they were just having fun.
There is another translation; context is they are shipwrecked on some random island and exploring:
She acquiesced, but she wanted to laugh. He could have put into practice this resolution without saying such a thing, but he had done it to be sure that she knows what efforts he was going to produce.
What a child!
He was thirsty for recognition and safety, and she could not ignore his lack of maturity. This is why they had quarrelled several times while they had just met again.
For two years, time had stopped for Tidus. Seventeen and nineteen years old. Twenty and twenty-two. Twenty-five and twenty-seven... For the moment their age difference was a problem, but if they stayed together for a long time it would fade away. He irritated her sometimes; despite everything she had not changed her mind: she wanted to age by his side. This was her will since their first meeting.
“What are you thinking about?” Tidus asked.
“That's a secret...”
“Yuna!” he answered with a begging tone.
It was funny and moving.
He rubbed himself on the back of his head before turning around. A balloon, similar to a blitzball, was rolling slowly at his foot.
“I wonder who its owner is...” the young man was taken back whilst looking around him.
He took a step forward to pick up the object, and Yuna felt tears stinging her eyes. Her legs were shivering. She squatted and folded her arms around her shoulders. She was suddenly overwhelmed by an unbearable sadness.
A powerful roar sounded through the air, and the young woman was thrown backwards. An object fell beside her. No, not an object... it was Tidus. His face was showing an expression of surprise. But only his head was visible, his body had disappeared.
Yuna lost consciousness.
Who threw the bomb? I'm going to imagine it was time travelling Sephiroth just being a dick.
I don't think its ever actually brought up again. Just a random bomb sailing through the air.
>Just a random bomb sailing through the air.
>Mages and assassins from Zanarkand invaded Besaid, carrying bombs that resembled blitzballs to eliminate the summoners
That's according to the Final Fantasy fandom wiki
Fuck me, that wasn't a meme translation or anything, it really happened.
It will never not be funny that the Seymour kiss is in the montage of scenes at the very end of the game, and even stays on screen longer than most of the other scenes.
tidus looks good with the bandana
Last I checked all of that was disowned by Square Enix and the writer issued an apology for the crap he shuttled out
The funniest part of the FFX-2 and onward material is that basically anything that happened in FFX didn't fucking matter at all
Well, that last part's false because the entire game of X-2 is premised on Sin being dead, Yevon being destroyed, and the entire land in semi-permanent party time mode(or at least what that counts for in a world as fucked up and morbid as spira), while the al bhed start garden gnomeing up the world and the guado fuck off to skulk in the woods hiding behind mushrooms fearing ronso assassins everywhere.
Allowing Tidus to be brought back was shit, but a lot of FFX definitely fucking mattered in X-2.
Okay what fucking purpose is bringing Sin back? I’m losing my mind over this. And who the fuck would actually wish for Sin to return? This makes absolutely zero goddamn sense .
Not everyone was happy sin was gone. The change sucked according to some and they wanted things back to how they used to be.
They also forgot to mention yuna dumps tidus because hes a zombie.
Kihimarhi also gets cucked harder in x3 too
Then what the fuck was the purpose of even bringing Tidus back
Its all over.
These four will work on FF10-3 or FF10 Remake, once FF7 Remake Part 3 is finished. As for FF9 Remake, no idea which team/CBU will work on it
The EVIL ones here are Kitase and Nojima. They are the cancer killing Square. Nomura wanted FF7 Remake to be a faithful remake but he got overruled by Kitase who insisted we got ghost jannies and Zack being alive . Fuck them both. Toriyama just wants to fuck Lightning so he’s harmless
Nojima pumps out his fanfiction and doesn't care anymore, he's getting paid either way.
I wonder what happened to Kitase, I find it difficult to believe that he's the same person that directed the OG FF7, FF8, and FF10. Ever since he's been a producer and a businessman running CBU1.
S-E should allow Nomura and Toriyama to work on a new IP and reuse ideas from Versus 13 so that entire saga is put to rest.
You can really see elements of them being retarded as early as FF7 with how disjointed the whole game was. The tonal whiplash juxtaposed the good and bad times, but I don't think it was intentional. I think it maybe only worked because the game style was so simple and broken up by battles.
Then FF9 had the whole amnesia and time travel thing.
FF10 was dumb in its own ways.
>Then FF9 had the whole amnesia and time travel thing.
you mean 8 and 8 was super retarded, it's the worst mainline after 13 for a reason.
>S-E should allow Nomura and Toriyama to work on a new IP and reuse ideas from Versus 13 so that entire saga is put to rest.
Isnt that what Nomura's weird ass KH spinoff "Verum Rex" is supposed ot be?
Nobody knows what the hell it's supposed to be in real life, but the only thing confirmed is that it's a fictional world inside KH. No spinoff has been announced at all.
The truth is that kitase is still a genius, but he is too unhinged. Like wanting to kill the whole party in og ff7, nomura had to stop him.
But when you see the list of games kitase directed or worked on, it's insane. The guy is a legend.
A sequel would probably just ignore these fanfictions, pretty much everyone hated them
>Audio drama has netorare, decapitation and necrophilia.
Man I can see where the SnK writer got his inspiration now
next youre gonna tell me sephiroth kills aerith. not like we havent had "wow the ffx novel was so weird" threads for 8 billion years or anything.
who are you people that just repost the same tired threads over and over perpetually? 3rd worlders?
its funny when ffx haters try to talk about ffx and get all the information wrong. once again this is one of those threads where no one is saying accurate things.
Perhaps you can correct us then
>the Square Enix shill defense is here
Fuck off. You gays will defend Square Enix raping your own mother because they made good games 20 years ago
>ffx-2 just became wikipedia's article of the day
nice meme magic
It's having it's 20th anniversary today.
>they gave Jecht the headband for Tidus
Interesting, never seen this before. Some of the concept art for FFX looks far better than what we actually got, even with the fucking BELTS AND ZIPPERS that plagued Square
Every time I see this, it gets worse.
>waterproof rubber socks
Makes perfect sense for someone living in Water City on Water World
imagine the smell, haha
Thats not a concept thats from Dissidia you fucking idiot
>literally have perfect set up for FFX prequel with Braska, Jecht and young Auron travelling.
>get to fill in the missing gaps and see Yunalesca nonsense + final summoning
>go with this shit
It's Square so I'm not surprised, but jesus christ.
prequels are stupid, first of all. They have to add all kinds of bullshit that never shows up in the future and creates a ton of plot holes, because the little bit of backstory we get needs to be padded out to a full game when it was only ever supposed to be a backdrop.
Add to that there are no new locations for the party to go and nothing new to see. You'll be going to the exact same temples in the exact same towns looking exactly the same. All of Spira was seen in X
>All of Spira was seen in X
all of spira that is relevant to pilgrimage maybe
a sequel/prequel set in spira could absolutely work and I wish they would make one because Spira is an amazing setting
however I agree that braska's journey wouldn't work very well and I also believe they need to let yuna and tidus rest
Having another game in Spira needs to either take place FAR in the future, or all the way back to the real Bevelle-Zanarkand war
I agree. Current Spira is just played out.
This prequel idea is pointless because we already get to see their journey in FFX. We get a complete arc for them. Anything a prequel adds will just be filler.
a prequel only work of it is about time travel to prevent the events of the original
otherwise it is pointless
What did Teedus do to have Square shit ok him so hard? It’s hilarious actually. He’s gotten the worst treatment out of any FF protagonist. He’s just endless suffering
>found out he was a dream and disappears
>immediately dies by getting his head blown off
>comes back to life and basically a zombie
>girlfriend dumps him
He’s the Eren of Final Fantasy
Wrong. Tidus got laid.
WHERE IS THE LULU PORN YOU gayS GODDAMN THIS BOARD IS GAY AS FUCK NOW
You know you can just go look at porn yourself, right? You can just look at it in another tab.
We ignore Alien 3. We ignore the Matrix 2. We ignore Tidus's head getting blitzballed to Hell.
I feel like there are some sequels everyone is just happier to forget.
I totally forgot about the having sex with your summon thing
Don't forget, if Tidus knew he was not real again, he dissappears forever. From the same writer so it was the original intent of the story despite people say it's non canon.
>if Tidus knew he was not real again, he dissappears forever
So what, they have to keep lying or watch him disappear again, and go on a road trip to bring him back again?
>expecting the writers from Bahamut Lagoon not to cuck the audience
You only bring this pain upon yourselves.
I have to say though those Yuna and Tidus designs are great
The ONLY good thing to come from X after X-2 is Nomura’s design for Tidus and Yuna. They are just perfect. It’s a shame those character designs will be wasted on this abomination of a story
>anime MC grows older
>just turns into his dad
this is not good character design, and before you say it, no it's not realistic
Using a piece of cloth from his dad doesnt mean becoming his dad, this is more of you inferring that than anything else.
It is, and it is.
Lmao you might be adopted, bro.
Literally everyone I know turned into some kind of palette swap of their dad.
Well it’s not 100% certain an X-3 would follow the outline of the audio drama. Everyone hated it so they might ditch it.
>But the time jannies
Time jannies were kept hidden, no one knew about them until after the fact. And that shit is still nowhere as bad as the trainwreck of the audio drama.
>The ONLY good thing to come from X after X-2 is Nomura’s design for Tidus and Yuna
Sure the small part of them we can see in that image is good, but it's the clothing that Nomura always goes apeshit with. I dread seeing what he imagined for Tidus's outfit when he drew this even though Yuna's looks like her X outfit.
who or what grants the wish for Sin to return?
Sin relies on a pretty big "infrastructure" to exist
Someone strongly wished for Sin to return. That’s literally it. That’s all it took. I hate this goddamn company so much
I guess that's vague enough that you could fill in the details with with a super powerful villain keikaku. Sin coming back is still retarded, and the world of FFX deserves a new threat.
Jenova's first stop on her way to Gaia was Spira
She ends up destroying life there and fucks off into space
The heroes of X-3 jump in a spaceship made by Shinra to follow her, but the trip takes so long the reason for them leaving is forgotten and records lost by the time they reach Gaia
>protags reach the core of nu-Sin
>it's fucking Jenova
ok, this is a kino idea
>This is all canon I’m not even lying
No. I don't care who wrote it or how official it is. I am officially overriding all of it. It is not canon. FFX is canon, FFX-2 is canon (and even that one I'm on the fence about) but nothing else is canon. If there is an X-3 It must completely ignore any of the dumbfuckery that went on after X-2.
The only thing that wasn't shit is future Tidus design.
>7 and 10 take place in the same universe confirmed
Of course Square would connect the two most popular FF games . There two favorites to milk
What did Zanarkand eat?
dream city ate dream fish
the real one probably had advanced greenhouses
fun fact, Tidus was originally going to be a great chef instead of a sports star
>instead of sports stars, Tidus and Jecht are chefs who use an oversized knife and meat cleaver respectively
>instead of Blitzball, there's a cooking minigame
Would you like that Ganker?
I think their character archetypes would be pretty similar, but with 300% more pot.
I thought he was supposed to be a plumber but the team thought it wouldn’t be interesting for the main protag to be a plumber so they changed it to a sports star
In the Ultimania they describe the entire opening scene of him going through his amazing cooking skills in his boat house
>In the original plot draft for Final Fantasy X, Tidus was a plumber with a job of piping construction and dispatching underwater fiends with the attitude of a young, angry Japanese gang member. This was changed because director Yoshinori Kitase felt it would have made for a "weak main character".
Huh, thars interesting, probably another dropped concept
Also here's a prototype Tidus, Yuna and Auron
that's her dad's outfit in the final game, right?
Not very similar tbh
oh, i totally misremembered
Since we are doing deep cuts now. Here’s Tidus originally with black hair
FFX was originally supposed to be IX, and with online features.
IX was taking too long so it was changed to X, a filler anniversary game was given the IX number instead, and the online features all got moved to XI
Tidus attires are far different from other characters even in early drafts. So dream Tidus was always planned as a plot twist?
>with the attitude of a young, angry Japanese gang member
You know what. That’s actually a neat concept for a FF main protagonist. That’s never been done before. I actually want this. I want this badly
>You know what. That’s actually a neat concept for a FF main protagonist. That’s never been done before. I actually want this. I want this badly
They already did something similar.
Is the bouncer any good? I always been curious to play it
Very mediocre beat em up. Just play/replay Kingdom Hearts instead.
>Final Fantasy Like a Dragon
I never knew how much I wanted this until now
the protag of 16 will probably go full rebel by the end and start beating up his former allies and whatnot
Cities don't eat dumbass
>pushes up glasses
>lenses obscured by light reflection
heh, they only eat souls...
Any new FFX game better have a full fledged Blitzball RPG game with it
Final Fantasy Xtreme Beach Blitzball when?
As long as the implementation isn’t clunky like X. It’s stupid difficult in the first match, then becomes pretty managable after Tidus unlocks Jecht shot and levels up and then becomes piss easy after brother joins the team.
Would cook Tidus have followed the architect’s plan?
>feeding the finest cuisine in the world to Yuna every day
>in alt X-2 she's depressed because no food compares to the ones made by Tidus
Can they make Yuna and Rikku scissoring cousins this time for real and just call it progressive or whatever?
Tidus comes back after X-2? I got bored of that peice of shit like 40 mins into it
Yeah at the true end of X-2.
I hate these three gays so much its unreal bros. Especially Nojima. That whole era of JRPGs being a fucking joke is 90% Nojima's fault and stems directly from his writing. These three pieces of shit have basically tanked an entire genre to the point that the whole formula is being abandoned. Look at FFXVI. Can you even blame them for going in a wildly different direction from XIII and XV and even FF7R? At least they realize they have to do SOMETHING very differently than what CBU1 has done for 20 years.
Nomura is a cool guy and based. He’s just surrounded by retards. He should’ve quit Square like a decade ago and started his own gaming company
Would have gone nowhere. Going independent in Japan is absolutely fucking cursed.
Japanese have no startup culture. Its bizarre.
Sakaguchi had moderate success for a few years when he started his own company . In fact, at the time, many claimed Lost Odyssey was the true FF 13
Sakaguchi's games were propped up with MS infusing money into his company on name alone, all his games have sold like dogshit
>xbox-exclusive japanese games
The last good Nomura did was like 15 years ago
Kingdom Hearts 3 ReMIND was three years ago anon
>He should’ve quit Square like a decade ago
He never should have been anything more than a character concept artist. Sakaguchi's greatest mistake was giving him more pull than that. Spirits Within is nothing compared to this fuck up. No one should have ever learned of this man's name.
>this fuck up
what fuck up, you blabbering retard?
>Can you even blame them for going in a wildly different direction from XIII and XV and even FF7R?
Its clear. The only truly successful thing with the Final Fantasy name in 20+ years is an MMO. Fuck Forspoken, the thing that should have rattled them to their core and scared them to fucking death was FF7R not selling 10 million copies instantly. Every playstation purchase since that E3 demo has had something to do with anticipation of a FF7 remake.
I honestly don't remember much of this game, I do appreciate all that art of Lulu being bred by that giant blue catdude though.
Have you seen the new FFX artwork? I'm pretty sure they are testing the waters for FFX3
I suspect they want to remake FFX first alas Crisis Core
I thought X-2 was a fun game and a nice sendoff for FFX. Biggest problem as the poppy intro, but everything else was perfectly fine, it also had the best turnbased combat in the entire series.
Them rolling it back just shows society as a while can't cope with happy endings and levity any more.
X-2 has the best combat in the entire series. I will die on this hill
So what exactly happened to Rikku and Paine? Did they get written out of the story?
Mostly just there o accompany Yuna. Paine barely has even a reason to exist other than they couldn't exactly make Lulu act like a teenage girl. The boobs would have been nice though.
Rikku and I got married and got started on her wish to have a lot of kids
I bet Rikku banged Tidus at least once
If they'd kept is as just TIdus and Rikku for a bit longer, maybe. But they separated them and shoved Tidus in the Japanese standard of pairing the protagonist up with the most basic and boring girl even when there's more compatible girl right next to him. Tidus and Rikku were practically soulmates, whereas Tidus and Yuna had nothing in common except MUH DESTINY
In today's Square Rikku and Paine would actually become a lesbian couple and have children. I mean this is actually fucking possible.
>decent plot and characters
>retarded plot and characters
>potentially the worst plot and characters we will ever see
>gameplay potentially GOAT for the rest of time
Can't fucking wait, bros.
>Wakka gets to fuck and impregnate that
FUCKING HOW? HE DOESNT DESERVE IT HE’S A FUCKING RETARD ITS NOT FAIR
>HE’S A FUCKING RETARD
says the igay lel
Big titty gothic women always choose the chuds
>playing the garbage "remaster"
Gotta have my achievements.
In what conceivable way is it garbage when it's the only way I can fight against Penance?
You can just emulate the international PS2 version.
And how is the emulated version better than the HD remaster?
It doesn't turn the faces of the main characters into a parody of themselves, for one.
Name them all.
So the answer is just that the faces suck? Yeah, nah, not good enough answer to why the remaster is "garbage."
The game looks worse in general, if you still want to play it over the original that's your loss.
I could fight Penance on my PAL PS2 20 years ago
Yeah, no shit.
Oh an X thread. This is the first FF game I’m playing. I made it to the mountain area with Kimahri’s tribe. So far it’s been a pretty good time. From what I hear this game is actually worse than all of the games from IV-IX era. Are they all really that good? What did X do to be considered worse than them?
>Are they all really that good?
imo, some are, some aren't.
Super linearity mainly. But it's still probably better than VIII. That game is a mess. A mess with a lot of soul, but still a mess.
So were the earlier ones really super open? To this game’s credit it seems to open up in Calm Lands area. I did a bunch of side quests there.
They had varying levels of linearity, but they all had world maps you could walk around.
X and 7 are considered the best by the general public
Only hardcore FF fans would say 5 or 6 or 9 is the best
Contrarians who only cry they dont get to manually fly a blimp around a mini map. Its top 3, its only objective fault being mosr of the minigames
Almost every final fantasy game is good. My personal favourites are tactics and 5, but the only "bad" ones are 2 and 13, imo. 2 is flawed but interesting and 13 is 13.
X was the first time a final fantasy game never opened up and was simple "levels" stitched together with go here and then go here gameplay. When you promise a certain style for almost 20 years the customers come to expect it.
A lot of people who grew up with 7-9 found the voice acting in X grating, and the lack of an open world map disappointing. Being the worst in a series of fantastic games isn't that bad though, if you're having a good time then good on you.
Hope you check out the older games after X and don't feel too put off by the downgrade in technology from PS2 to PS1.
The complaints you'll often hear regarding X come from people who played the earlier games and didn't like the linearity or lack of an open world from the earlier games. Personally I don't think X would've gained anything from that but I can see how it was a concern during development since they made the story about a pilgrimage meaning you're supposed to take a very specific route with little deviation.
You can revisit and find new spots when you get the airship.
X is a cutscene hallway, just like XIII, but unlike XIII it delivers on the contract of actually being an interesting cutscene hallway. Voice acting makes things worse more often than better, but in X it's ok. It's not what I want FF to be, but it's good at what it sets out to be. Even if it's the beginning of the end.
I feel like FFX is carried almost entirely by it's combat system. And then they never used it again.
Maybe a fanboy response but I think X is a 10/10. Story is fantastic, music is incredible, the whole game carries a theme of letting go of the past which is also carried by all the individual stories within the party therefore justifying their presence rather than just being there for the sake of filling a class role, worldbuilding feels believable and consistent.
But also yes, I think X's turn based combat is the best of its kind. Being able to see the attack order and how different moves will affect it adds a lot more strategy than leaving speed as this invisible stat that can completely fuck with you.
The world and the worldbuilding are nice.
The combat system is pretty good as you said. Which is important because that’s like 80% of the game.
The story is good.
The characters are fine at worst. Except Kimahri but he’s not a bad character just underutilized.
Again though, I didn’t play the other games so the story and the characters might be much better in those.
The cutscenes in XIII are much more obnoxious than the one in X. It feels like it interrupts you every 5 minutes for mundanities, whereas FFX's cutscene feel more on point.
The bosses are pretty good and memorable as well, when XIII is just those machines
7 > 10 > 9 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 8 > 12 > 3 > 1 > 15 > 13 > 2
You put 15 over 13? That's nuts. I just played through 15 Episode Ardyn and let me tell you, after playing Metal Gear Rising just before, 15's combat is 2/10 at best. It's awful. The writing was shockingly bad.
>6 > 4 > 5 > 9 > 10 > 1 > 7 > 3 > 8 > 12 > 15 > 13 > 2
>Are you hyped for FF X-3?
It's never happening, get over it.
It will happen immediately after 7R-3 screenshot this post
>squeenix survives that long
>squeenix survives that long
Yeah because they will go bankrupt next week as our Ganker analysts say.
I don‘t have any experience with Japanese novels but i expect that there are a bunch of sequels to games and animes with insane plots
>undo the plot of X
>undo the plot of X-2
What a retarded idea for a sequel. You might as well bring back Seymour, Auron, and Shuyin while you're at it and just make literally everything prior pointless.
Any sequel to FFX is inherently retarded on arrival. X-2 might've worked well as a sort of epilogue to Yuna's arc as she learns to let go of Tidus and learns what she wants to do now that she's not a sacrificial lamb. But even then it didn't really work because it got bogged down with too many ideas without properly developing any.
Someone just stop Nojima from ever touching FF again.
X-2 was an experiment. They wanted to do an expanded universe for VII, including directly prequels and sequels, which they hadn't done for FF yet at the time. They didn't want to risk ruining VII's legacy so they took X, popular and recent enough to spark interest, but not their golden goose that was VII, gave it a small budget so they had to re-use most of the assets, and then gauged if the fanbase would go into revolt over a direct sequel. Reaction was mixed but must have been good enough to greenlight all the VII games they started making immediately after.
Also of note, they deliberately changed the combat system to see if that would be well received, as many of the VII games didn't use the same combat system as VII itself. As X-2's combat system was very well received, that very well may have been what convinced them they could change the formula up and experiment.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Hadn't considered it.
But will it have massage scene?
Yeah, but it only plays once the system has detected that your father or mother are in the room with you
Even without Tidus and others being beckoned back to life, do you think all those dead would've bled out of the already unstable Farplane anyway?
It amazes me how much Nojima misses the point of his own work. Even if the decision to write more X wasn't his it doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to butcher everything in X.
Just started X-2 blind. What the absolute fuck is this?
The funnest FF game with the dumbest story
Tonal shift from a world filled with hopelessness and death to one where people are realizing that their world has been completely changed and most of what they always knew no longer applies and how they struggle to adjust to that. Yuna has a similar journey as she tries to adjust from a life where she was destined to die to bring a few years of peace, to now being considered the world's greatest hero for ending the existential threat of Sin and exposing the world religion as having been working to keep the spiral of death status quo running smoothly.
This scene and the massage mini game helped me get through early puberty
They really needed to play more on the comedy of these three, it was basically all the game had in terms of dialogue.
>Sin comes back because someone wished for Sin to return (I wish I was joking)
I bet the guado did this
Sound good I’d play at least not generic take
>Paine has Hank Hill ass
It's Japan, what do you expect?
X-2 was my sexual awakening.
>that tatoo on Yuna
It is kind of surprising that she didn't get the heart symbol, since that's kind of her thing. But no, it's not what you think. I don't even think that was a thing back then.
it's still not a thing despite how many Changs try to make it one
FFX is such a dogshit gay game. Ruined the series with this railroaded linear constant cutscene bullshit with no exploration or world map. And the shitty unlikeable characters
FFX was when square went to total shit
Yuna's Berserker outfit is my favorite. I love how she gets fierce and playful in it
My favourite is Dark Knight.
get in the damn robot rikku
>class is "going to a festival"
Dresspheres are pretty cool. wish the MMO had classes as varied and unique as that.
What made X-2 happen? What was the cultural climate like? The reaction? I wasn't really into Final Fantasy at the time.
It happened because
The jpop music of X-2 led to Gackt being hired to do voicework in a couple games. The reaction was largely the 'What the fuck is this?' that we get now, but the positive reactions to the combat led to the similar free-wheeling ATB style of most FF games that came after.
FFX was the first Final Fantasy or even a game of a huge group of people, whose first console was the PS2. They were then devastated by the ending and bombarded Square-Enix to fix it, while for the rest of us it was a normal bittersweet ending, that Final Fantasy almost always has. Also we thought FFX killed Final Fantasy, it was so bad, so most of us bailed on the series. The general public thought it was the best game ever, because of its graphics and full voice acting.
What? What could you disagree with having happened in it?
The game was so popular they started making a sequel, and there was positive response from Japan about the Eternal Calm video. There was no outcry about the ending, no-one demanding a sequel, it was created because X sold so well, and despite what that post says, was well loved. It's only this shithole that i ever see people saying they dropped off FF because of X.
what really tickes me off is people pretending like final fantasy was ever this super open-ended oldschool RPG when in reality the series was streamlined from day 1
obviously there's a difference between overworld/no overworld or VA/no VA but there's so much pretentiousness in claiming there is a huge leap in design philosophy between FFVI and FFX it's ridiculous
FFX has an amazing story, incredible graphics, an immersive and iconic setting, great characters with a lot of depth, one of the best OSTs of the franchise, a perfect iteration of turn based combat and a shitton of side content for minmaxers like me.
Cope seethe dilate.
Trannies seem to love X-2
and? it's not any less retarded than the story of x and x-2
you rose colored glasses gays are overreacting
>Final Fantasy X minus 2
Final Fantasy X hasn't happened yet, anon
Tidus will commit genocide and then cry about Yuna finding another man after his defeat
It bothers me how many clueless zoomers who have no idea what they are talking about are on Ganker.
>Sin comes back because someone wished for Sin to return
I thought Sin came back as a result of whatever bullshit Yuna went through to bring Tidus back, and she brought other dead people back too? It's been a while since I've read the synopsis, and it's so bullshit i could just be remembering wrong. X-3 needs to be a prequel.
Yuna had multiple sex partners in X-2
With the guy behind flopspoken and capeshit fired maybe the company can start healing now.
those are art pics of two pretty girls you posted OP
IX trannies getting uppity I see
>caring for FF related stuff after 99'
Bunch of fags.
I remember being mad that I got forcibly paired with Yuna and Wakka got with Lulu who I actually wanted.