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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    - Chibi art style
    - Not on a real system

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They ported the trilogy to PC, dumbass.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they ported the shit versions for PC*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The best version by far but OK.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Art looks like shit

      cringe and low T

      Not enough sexy e-girl

      based and alpha chad

      Unanimated sprites. Basically overall, half of the game is menu/UI simulator. Feels cheap.
      No world building, just go in dungeon with different biomes and fauna, but there's nothing mysterious or interesting about it. I appreciated those little notes/writings you find sometimes when you have to make decisions but that's barely enough.

      Also does it give free skill resets? I don't remember struggling at all playing 5 so wasnt an issue for me, but I didn't care enough to le experiment, just good enough with whatever to get through the game, like pokemon. Don't got time for all that.

      I got pulled in by Himukai's art and sexy children alone, but that's basically gacha tier. Played one long enough, I'm done with playing them. Will just look up his art now instead.

      >Unanimated sprites. Basically overall, half of the game is menu/UI simulator. Feels cheap.
      the game is supposed to emulate old school pc jrpgs if the first person perspective, barebones writing, and the yamaha OPL-based soundtrack didn't give it away. it's not for everyone for sure, but i thought i should point it out
      >No world building, just go in dungeon with different biomes and fauna, but there's nothing mysterious or interesting about it. I appreciated those little notes/writings you find sometimes when you have to make decisions but that's barely enough.
      the game's narrative is carried by the player's imagination, which is why it's so barebones, along with the fact that EVERY party member is created equally when you're not playing the untold story modes. this goes back to the old school pc jrpg thing, which were heavily inspired by ultima, by the way. again, not everyone's thing so you're not wrong for disliking it, i just felt the need to point that out.
      >Also does it give free skill resets?
      no, skills basically needing a wiki because the series not having any skill tree until around, what, eo3(?), so you had to blindly invest in a build or look at a wiki so you didn't brick your save is probably one of those things everyone can agree was genuinely awful

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only system these games even work on is the ds. Drawing maps is awful in the remasters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Drawing maps is awful in the remasters.
        it feels better than on DS when playing on PC

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Etrian Odyssey NEXT STAGE

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Art looks like shit

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough sexy e-girl

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      https://i.imgur.com/8xPrGxx.jpeg

      find a flaw

      Does it have any of that shitty Untold remake crap in it? With the premade "canon" party or whatever?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The DLC
    Like come on, Fatlus. Is that all you could? No extra dungeons no special moves/ jobs nothing.. only mere skins

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this shit bored the crap out of me. I must have played it for forty-five minutes waiting for it to click. but it's just a more tedious Final Fantasy game really. making you draw maps and ""explore"" in first person doesn't improve the experience in any meaningful way.
    6/10

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't untold?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most skills either get most of their value when you put your first point into them, or are borderline useless until you max them out. There is no way to know this just by playing the game because the descriptions don't let you know how much of an impact the skills have. Even if they did, many of them are just wrong about what they do, or just don't work. Also, HD fricked up the fonts.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Difficulty is too low.
    Atlus has only made 1 actually challenging dungeon crawler in recent years (The Dark Spire) but they pussied out on that and quietly released it to almost no players with zero fanfare.
    Until we get some modern dungeon crawlers with actual balls instead of being anime slop to try and ease morons into playing DRPGs, the genre is dead in the water.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >games must be hardcore for hardcore audience (5 people) like myself!

      Go replay Wizardry IV again, grandpa.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd appreciate a mix of anime style skills with the brutality of older games. I just get tired of selecting attack with the occasional item on all my non-mages.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are we playing the same games? I got insta deleted by Fenrir (EOU1) and i'm using the party that the story mode gives you. EO is bullshit in JRPG form

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the untolds are not the same game as the originals. they're overall much more difficult than the originals.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          EO is a series with more of an emphasis on dangerous battles rather than dangerous dungeon design. In terms of battle mechanics, I enjoy it more, but you rarely get those moments in the dungeon where you're worried about making it back to town, because warping back costs practically nothing. The decision to either go back to town or press on to the next checkpoint is a lot more easily decided, and those situations where you get cornered by an FOE are just a minor inconvenience rather than a moment that makes you shit your pants.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >because warping back costs practically nothing.
            Sure would be a shame if something were to happen to your ariadne thread

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thats why I carry two

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish we could get non grid-based dungeon crawlers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The grid is the good part though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mapping without a grid is not fun gameplay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Huh? You don't need a grid to map wtf

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you want a remotely interesting maze, you give the player a grid to define at least one rule they can follow to actually have a chance mapping.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't get it. Just draw the map. It's not that hard that people can only handle putting squares down. Other games on the DS systems don't treat people like that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              how do you expect someone to measure distances. Sure I could draw a map in ocarina of time too but it wouldn't be particularly useful.

              The grid based map making is one of the most fundamental puzzles in the genre, do you play with automapping?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you played Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen? Bitterblack Isle is peak dungeon crawling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Might & Magic 6-9

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm the opposite, i want Etrian to go further with the grid based by making the combat grid based too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really don't think the combat system works very well in historia
        It's really satisfying when things line up though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I want EO
      >but please let it have less EO

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, if we're talking EO spinoffs i'm not against the idea of chaining HImukai to a desk and not letting him leave until he makes a full set of sprites for an Etrian fighting game.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sorry, you get a city sim instead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      here friend.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a WEG

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough information given on how skills function. This is the Achilles Heel of the franchise.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This 100%. I hated how some skills were a complete trap to invest in without you having a way to know cause game doesn’t tell you shit about what it does.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unanimated sprites. Basically overall, half of the game is menu/UI simulator. Feels cheap.
    No world building, just go in dungeon with different biomes and fauna, but there's nothing mysterious or interesting about it. I appreciated those little notes/writings you find sometimes when you have to make decisions but that's barely enough.

    Also does it give free skill resets? I don't remember struggling at all playing 5 so wasnt an issue for me, but I didn't care enough to le experiment, just good enough with whatever to get through the game, like pokemon. Don't got time for all that.

    I got pulled in by Himukai's art and sexy children alone, but that's basically gacha tier. Played one long enough, I'm done with playing them. Will just look up his art now instead.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its kino

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Butts aren't big enough

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agree

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't just use a Ronin or a Hexer at the start. And I know there's a reason for it but come on.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IV is better
    V is better
    EOU1 is better
    EOU2 is better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Untolds
      >better than anything

      Good joke.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        EO:U Classic fixed vanilla's fricked up balancing, and that alone renders every other point of comparison moot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A cuck

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not 4 or 5.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick I want to lick those underboobs. Atlus why?!

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    should I play the DS or PC version?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DS if you have real hardware
      if not, PC and get the mod that fixes the font

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >find the boss of the floor
    >kill it after a lengthy battle
    >it wasn't the quest

    >uh uh you cant proceed past this point you uh need to go back to town to talk to some dickweed

    i like e02 untold the most

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did you killed a foe?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wyvern. Stumbled upon it. Killed it. Couldn't proceed any further. Finally found out it was because I didn't get the quest, kill the Wyvern again and return to town to talk about jack shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like a b***h

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              me on the right

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they ruined the abyssal god phase transition

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weebslop

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Untold being preferred over the prequels here ? Why won't they bring the rest on PC ?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Floor 27
    Next question

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      27f was completely fine, just follow the turtles.
      29f was complete dogshit tho.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only if you don't care about mapping the floor

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't Ricky's game

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They throw you at your face like 46132 systems before explaining you anything.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shit font

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While the unrepentant genocide is as based as ever it lacks the party enslaving the salad e-girl that untold has

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    None of the dungeons feel like proper dungeons to me. They are entirely linear paths that go from A to B with some branches or loops that don't go nowhere, but it still feels like all you're doing is progressing on a linear path. There are no real puzzles or riddles; figuring out how to "dance" your way around FOEs are the closest we got but they are about as lazy using pressure plate puzzles as a crutch. I think one of the floors in EO5's Fetid Necropolis was the one instance that had a bit of nonlinearity to it making it feel more like a dungeon / place and less like a snaking tube. Call me old fashioned but I like key hunting, secret buttons and so on. Etrian Odyssey is more of a combat sim, which is fine since the combat mechanics are pretty rich, but it's not a real dungeon crawler imo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean yeah. The game never pretended to be wizardry. It's always been about team building. Gotta say though I hate dungeon crawler with 0 puzzle. Linear or not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And yet EOtrannies keep shitting up any DRPG thread with "le FOE XD" or "You like Dungeon Meshi? Then you must play EO!!!!"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you like Dungeon Meshi you should play The Dungeon Of Naheulbeuk: The Amulet Of Chaos.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    80 dollarinos

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ninja and Hero classes are both flaws. quit making classes that clone themselves, the extra party slot is for beast summons, turrets, and zombies anything else DOES NOT BELONG.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried on these games once and played for several hours but felt like I only made seconds of actual progress and just never felt like playing it again, it turned me off. Are these just the type of Kusoge meant to consume your entire life? I feel like playing gatcha would be more fun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      play IV or any game made after it. 1 and 2 are time sinkers of the lowest quality

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I took 93 hours for etrian 1 and 111 for etrian 2 so they're fairly long but I wouldn't call them time wasters, with the exception of 1 having some pretty fricked up post game bosses that you really need one or two specific classes to beat.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    finally reached the third stratum making progress. I mapped out floors B1-10 and have been doing the quests minus a shop item quest and the one where they want you to stay five days in floor B8 or whatever which I'll probably end up doing

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone convince me to get through 5. I don't get why anyone would think this is the best game in the series, sure I just unlocked the rest of the skill trees but it's going to take like another 10 levels before any of this shit starts coming online. So basically 20+ hours of this game is spent with basic, boring as frick classes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      V doesn't need skills to come online, all characters are self sufficient just like IV. You are not going to get clapped if you don't lineguard/inmunize every turn, the etriams can do a bit of everything and that's LE FUN.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love EO but you'll waste about 30 hours if you go in not knowing how to build classes

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've just been unlocking every skill and putting a point in it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a horrible idea and I don't understand why the EOU2 system of giving you a free point in skills after getting the requirements for them didn't become the norm.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4 or untold to start ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4 in my opinion, gives you a basic understanding of how to play.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      4 is still the best to start off

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard they buffed Hexer in EO1HD, so that's fricking kino.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they buffed the bind infliction formula, not hexer specifically. Even then it only is better on the second attempt after failing to land a bind so you either need a second character attempting to bind or try over two turns.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It also doesn't make binding harder when you succeed.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was playing EO2U and EO3 at the same time
    >Completely fricking lost the plot
    Maybe I should restart.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NO DONT

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just kidding, but I really ought to re-visit the games and this is why I should complete games in as few sittings as possible. Miss those days of EO4 as a uni student man.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plot
      That's a really stupid reason to restart considering no matter what point you are in either story, it can be summed up in less than a few sentences.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        'Lost the plot' here means being completely lost on what to do next but yeah, I shouldn't have been moronic and have done two games at the same time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Etrian dude. The plot literally doesn't matter beyond
      >form a guild
      >plunder dungeons
      >stop this world ending threat

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't port the untold versions or make an untold version of 3.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stratum 5 has shit layouts that all feel the same
    Stratum 6 has way too big of a difficulty jump from 5 which leaves you in an awkward spot trying to grind up levels to bridge that gap
    Most of the sidequests give awful rewards not worth the time it takes to do them
    Sidequest bosses give 0xp just to make those sidequests even more useless
    Ronin and Hexer unlocking halfway through the game is shit and I don't think they're very good classes on top of that so you have to grind them up a ton to catch them up to the rest of your team when you unlock them only to be disappointed by them
    $40 is an absurd price for decade old DS remasters
    I still really enjoyed it though and I'm looking forward to picking up 2 and 3 next time they go on sale in the hopes that those two sales will be the straw that breaks the camels back when it comes to getting remasters of the rest of the series or maybe a new one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with most of your points regarding EO1 and unfortunately EO2 isn't much better, I still find them to be relaxing and enjoyable experiences heavily carried by Yuzo Koshiro's music and neat environments. EO3 and beyond is where the series starts becoming great.

      Also can anybody explain if EO1 untold is heavily shat on and if so why? I know EO2 untold is, but I thought it was mainly due to cancerous DLC practices.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The untolds are both shit. Story mode sucks, the floor layout redesigns suck, the grimoire system sucks, and they birthed that stupid fricking milenom girl meme.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mostly it's just that some people get very bothered that story mode exists and they are not okay with it
        grimoires are pretty annoying too since they're extremely random in 1U and while a bit easier to get in 2U they're more important since they stack with your own skills to make level 20 skills.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For the longest time I thought the EOU games were exclusively story games and refused to buy them. EOU2 is my favourite one of the series, someday I'll try the story mode. The DLC problem is real though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cancerous DLC practices.
        Yeah that is the worst part of it, but if you bought it back in the day the good ones were all free for a month anyway and 3DS hacking became way easier not too long after so that was never an issue. Just a case of autsitic "stop liking what I don't like" screeching.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if EO1 untold is heavily shat on and if so why?
        EO fanbase are again autistic moron subhumans so any change at all makes them screech. Locking one completely irrelevant ingame achievement behind playing storymode only fueled the fire.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also the best katana (why when there's no ronin in story mode?) but it's not like it's that much worse than the second best

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the thing is regardless of where the katana would be obtained you can't use it anyway because you beat the absolute final boss and there's nothing to do there anymore so quite literally a pointless achievement on the card yet autists seethe in rage all over it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Besides the story mode and grimoires, the first Untold locks quite a few things to story mode like extra dungeons. The remixes mostly suck, although you can use the classic music it's still disappointing. The rebalance is also a bit of a mixed bag since a lot of classes got nerfed and feel sort of middling in terms of power. Survivalist damage is gutted and they're just Medics with items, Landsknechts don't erase mobs easily, Ronin stances at least can't be erased by buff removal but they still don't feel amazing, the game in general feels lower on the power scale. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it does feel pretty different.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, different sort of question - what options do I have if I want game similar to EO on PC? Already played Refrain and Stranger of Sword City, plus Class of Heroes on PSP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that witch and lily game that just came out as early access seems to have a large etrian inspiration, though it's pretty rough and buggy so I'd recommend waiting a year or so and hope they iron everything out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play Galleria if you havent already as its mostly better than Refrain just the areas in which itws not better are worse.

      Stratum 5 has shit layouts that all feel the same
      Stratum 6 has way too big of a difficulty jump from 5 which leaves you in an awkward spot trying to grind up levels to bridge that gap
      Most of the sidequests give awful rewards not worth the time it takes to do them
      Sidequest bosses give 0xp just to make those sidequests even more useless
      Ronin and Hexer unlocking halfway through the game is shit and I don't think they're very good classes on top of that so you have to grind them up a ton to catch them up to the rest of your team when you unlock them only to be disappointed by them
      $40 is an absurd price for decade old DS remasters
      I still really enjoyed it though and I'm looking forward to picking up 2 and 3 next time they go on sale in the hopes that those two sales will be the straw that breaks the camels back when it comes to getting remasters of the rest of the series or maybe a new one

      This, Ive reached the 5th stratum in EO1, and are midway through the 4th in EO2 and EO3. The first game is legit a time waster in the amoutn of stupid tedious crap you end up doing (especially the 5 sidequest hold limit) and the other two Ive played while also enjoyable arent much better.

      None of the dungeons feel like proper dungeons to me. They are entirely linear paths that go from A to B with some branches or loops that don't go nowhere, but it still feels like all you're doing is progressing on a linear path. There are no real puzzles or riddles; figuring out how to "dance" your way around FOEs are the closest we got but they are about as lazy using pressure plate puzzles as a crutch. I think one of the floors in EO5's Fetid Necropolis was the one instance that had a bit of nonlinearity to it making it feel more like a dungeon / place and less like a snaking tube. Call me old fashioned but I like key hunting, secret buttons and so on. Etrian Odyssey is more of a combat sim, which is fine since the combat mechanics are pretty rich, but it's not a real dungeon crawler imo.

      This combined with how all 'Walls' take up grid space make the maps somewhat predictable and they become samey very quickly.

      Overall playing on Expert doesnt really feel rewarding at certain key points in the game. You struggle at the start of a stratum and slowly gain power which allows you to progress (even if the dungeon itself isnt difficulty as its more can you survive random shit mob spam that you cant avoid) which is fine. Until you get to a boss at which point youre under leveled even if you played normally, or you have the wrong build/a generalist build so you need to rest and/or grind which is tediously boring as the grind isnt fun at all. You can fix it by turning the difficulty down to picnic to speed it up but thats just a blatant flaw at the game respecting your time. Its worse in EO3 where you can easly get overleveled of sea quests by doing this whcih can make the game too easy. You also dont have to really resource manage beyond 'ah shit I cant afford amirtas and gear anymore. Lets get my gathering party' which is more rtedious boring grind thats just there for the sake of it ratehr than any actual addition to the game. Especially when you get most of the good gear through drops or get them in the first gather run, and side quests give frick all.

      But by far the WORST aspect is the stupid skill tree where it shows NO FRICKING NUMBERS meaning you have to use a wiki even if you know how the mechanics work, just to avoid overleveling a skill or picking bad skills, or realising you need more levels in a skill.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thi game is so fricking bad! i tried the third one and you need to walk back to your base every frickign time you want to leave the goddam dungeon omg then walk back again!

    no teleport nothing just walk every time like a fricking dog with sometime a few shortcut in the way that it i even tried 4 and its the same thing man frick this serie how do y'all play this shit is beyond me especially the first two game from what i have seen its so much worse.

    i will try the untold games and 5 nexus because they have teleportation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro your ariadanne thread/warp wire? the game would actually be better in some cases if you had to walk out more often (assuming its rebalanced as EO blaance is LMAO tier).

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EO5 Uncut wen

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flaw in what exactly?
    >hd edition in particular
    An emulator of outdated ds games for 60 fricking dollars. Sega not being greedy israelites? Impossible. Also nobody asked for it, just let the IP die
    >eo as a series
    nothing really other than himukai being a pedo mid artist and absolutely mentally ill autistic fanbase

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not the 3ds games which are objectively better.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone tell me how to start playing pic related?
    The enemies in the first dungeon are already capable of killing half of your party, and when you return to town, you need to pay (with money you barely have) to resurrect them, but in the process of resurrecting them they can turn to dust and then be deleted forever.
    What I'm doing is returning to the village after 1 or 2 battles and using endless Heal magic repeatedly like a moron because the "INN" to recover the HP of the whole party costs 600G, and the first fights give like 2G (most of the time they give 0G).
    And there are the items you pick up that need to be identified, but the guys charge more to identify the items than their price to sell them, so you're always at a loss, unless you use a Bishop to identify for free, but the Bishop sometimes gets frightened for some inexplicable reason and stops identifying things.
    WTF?
    The game is total troll bullshit, but I wanted to at least get past the beginning to see if it's all this shit or if there's some redeeming factor...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you don't
      all the weebshit crawlers from psp/vita are completely unbalanced and suck as is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not very good in the first place. The start is sort of brutal because you don't know what the hell you're doing. But after a bit, it has the opposite problem and becomes too easy. I dropped it maybe midway through because I got bored the other way around. The party attack was broken as frick and every boss fight I got through folded to it, plus a lot of dungeons shared map layouts so I could tell what the moronic gimmick was as soon as I looked around a bit.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never cared for the first 2, but 3 is good. I'm currently stuck in the lava caverns and want to just fricking kill myself.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like the HD ports because they aren't the Untold games. And I was really hoping to get Untold 3.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Untolds screws up balance by introducing 3DS HP bloat.

      >but I also have higher damage output!

      If you optimize heavily for it, which automatically punish players for not minmaxing. Original EO2 also had offense focus (as opposed of EO1 which favoured defense) but both were perfectly playable with opposite philosophy. Enter 3DS and IV where bosses have so much HP that if you don't focus on out damaging them, you will run out of TP.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The first Untold's HP bloat isn't a problem honestly. I have no idea what you mean by HP bloat in IV and not being able to play defensively, it's the game where you can use five Medics and almost never run out of TP because they constantly auto-heal each other, so they can just slowly grind down a lot of bosses to death. Untold 2 is definitely an extreme game, I'd argue that most of the game feels like the equivalent of stratum 6 in other games. But the original 2 isn't balanced at all either, considering one of the mechanics is entirely worthless without some form of grinding and half the classes are an utter joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did the HD ports sold well? maybe we could get 3U if it did

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3U is never ever, Nexus was supposed to be that before they changed it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Untold games were hated in Japan

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For a good reason. The only good things is we got sexy dicky pictures for untold 2.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    incredibly boring holy shit

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