>So this will be the last gameplay centric FE and every game from now on will just be a medieval Persona game?
If they want the series to be successful, yes
The Becky Engage >censors any S support with a character under 18 despite the protagonist only being 17
The Stacy Persona 3 >can romance a preteen boy as a high-school girl
We just want waifus/husbandos and romance with a cozy tactics game, and for frick sake I know plot for it was contrived in Fates, but tell Nintendo to bring back second gen units.
>maps are still shit >gacha elements >unit balancing is fricking horrible; most characters you get early on are straight up garbage compared to units you get later >weapon triangle is worthless as there's so many ways to bypass it.
Being slightly better than 3H does not make the gameplay good.
Everything to do with the characters, dialogue, story, reasons to touch the game more than once
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bro? Your YouTube? Don't tell me you actually played through Three Houses thrice?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I played through twice but appreciated that there was content for each route and paired endings unique to each one even though I never saw them all
Compared to Engage which is the same shit every time no matter what, lazier less ambitious game
Story is too simple after 3H
No shipping
Pandering reduced
Characters are Fates tier tropey
No replay value at all because every run is the same and there's no payoff for different support A ranks
no, no, no, anon. You weren't asked the reasons why Engage flopped. The question was why do you think it flopped, while it didn't. What makes you think it did?
>Characters are Fates tier tropey
If you think all the characters in 3H besides the main lords and church units aren't Fates tier tropey too you're delusional
Sylvain is one of the least tropey in 3H since his trope is actually a fakeout to hide he's a raging misogynist, which is why he's one of the rare based character in that game
1 year ago
Anonymous
>trope is actually a fakeout
that's literally every character in 3H besides Raphael
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not really, there's no fakeout for Caspar, Bernadetta, Mercedes, Ignatz, etc...
They may seem deeper since they're in a better written story that has actual conflict but if they were in engage, fates or awakening they'd be pretty one note.
No idea. 3H was already low effort because they repurposed the musou engine to cut on development time and the game still felt unfinished. 3Nopes not only reuses the engine again, but it also reuses all the assets from 3H so its a reuse of a reuse. The ultimate low effort game.
I do like the setting and map. The worlds design feels simple and effective. The story doesn’t need to be deep so they can focus on map design and combat variety.
Truthfully , I’m just asking for the bare minimum of an actual finished story mode (all of the routes end in “the war continues”) and adding all the tons of characters that were playable in 3H like the teachers.
Reminder that unlike previous games promoting early won't affect your XP gains at all so there is 0 reasons not to promote asap since you can go back to level 1 once you hit cap.
Money isn't the issue, it's that seals are difficult to come by. Makes characters like Yunaka and Kagetsu even more valuable as they don't need those precious seals.
Money isn't the issue, it's that seals are difficult to come by. Makes characters like Yunaka and Kagetsu even more valuable as they don't need those precious seals.
What do you think for Master Seal priority?
I used my first on Celine already, got another to spare. I'm on Chapter 9 Maddening.
If you're on maddening, Louis. Otherwise the nobles since they get unique classes. Diamant in particular gets Sol and Alcryst gets Luna Celine gets Ignus etc
bros I'm getting filtered by chapter 8, I've tried like 7 times but get swarmed to death every time or get crit to death by the retainers, I've tried turtling on the ballista or just ignoring it but I lose everytime
Slap Sigurd on Louis and have him block one side of the ballista, have Diamant block the other side, bait Ivy into range, and shoot her down with the Ballista
>they had the balls to take away my undo button
I was mad they cut this from 3H, glad they decided to try it for this game. This map reminds me of fe5 chapter 7.
I kept it canon the first time and gave it to the black girl Terra or whatever. She’s a total powerhouse and that charge move is busted. She can wipe 5 people at once.
I literally dropped the game after watching that fricking ntr scene where alear is crying for the fell dragon guy to stop corrupting the emblems. I normally don't care about story that much, but that was just too cringe and honestly none of the characters resonated with me at all.
In past games I always find at least one character I like enough and try to invest most of the resources into them but I could not find the motivation this time
it's good cause it's bad but it's not good cause it's good. My biggest gripe with it is that they are trying to turn it into something serious around CH11
I hate "muh morally grey" memes, because it literally never is. >Nohr and Hoshido >Nohr literally raping, pillaging and plundering Hoshido's lands for the fun of it >"morally grey" >the Adrestian Empire is genuinely evil in a bunch of ways, Ionius was a genuine tyrant and Edelgard idolizes him, and is the attacking force during peacetime >Edelgard promises her regime where you become her citizen by force or at swordpoint will be peaceful >"morally grey"
Them not actually being morally grey doesn't mean the games and their fans don't pretend they are
This game is unafraid to say "yeah Evil McGenocide is the villain go frick him up" and pseuds hate that
1 year ago
Anonymous
>This game is unafraid to say "yeah Evil McGenocide is the villain go frick him up" and pseuds hate that
Yeah until Mami, Zephia and Gris get undeserved sob story exits from the story and Veyle is total dindu
I agree, I'm not following what problems people say they have with it.
I'm not that far in (I'm pretty sure I'm about halfway) but I haven't really noticed anything wrong with it. It's not the most interesting story, and the twists so far have been predictable, but if we're comparing it to fateswakening I feel like either people don't properly remember how bad those games were story-wise or it has to nosedive right past where I'm at.
I genuinely don't understand the seething hatred and vitriol people have towards a very whitebread, vanilla Fire Emblem story. Same with Awakening, sure it's not really good but games like FE7 and FE8 also had a very vanilla story. I swear the Tellius/Echoes/3H crowd don't actually like the franchise as a whole or something.
>The story is actually good
Hi there MC let me tell you how much you mean to me all of a sudden whoops I get fricked in the face in the next map wow what a strange coincidence
Alear is kinda lame in that scene. I'm hoping it's setting up for some character growth moment later where he man's up.
Not even Corrin had a cuck moment of such proportions.
From the start Alear’s first instinct was to run from the Corrupted instead of fight them when any other lord would have tried to fight. The dude up until that then is a pansy and was hard carried by the rings which is why he’s freaking out so much.
The point of that scene is, Alear up to that point was objectively a weakling that was relying on the Emblem crutch super hard, and the realization that he was fricked without them just suddenly hits and fricks him up mentally
Yeah, that's the vibe I was getting. I hope they don't just forget about it later.
The story to gameplay consequence was fricking fantastic though. Not having any Emblems nukes your power level while the enemies abuse the shit out of the ones you were relying on.
Opening the menu after making a bad move only to realize your time crystal got swiped.
Perfection.
Alear becomes notably more confident and less of a b***h as the game progresses, both in cutscenes and in combat animations
For example, early game when they dodge they're just avoiding attacks normally, while later on they'll be actively parrying stuff and cutting arrows out of the air
The point of that scene is, Alear up to that point was objectively a weakling that was relying on the Emblem crutch super hard, and the realization that he was fricked without them just suddenly hits and fricks him up mentally
i can't be the only one that likes the dogshit dialogue, it's like they purposefully made it as bad as humanly possible, toothpaste is a walking talking female corpse and i can't stop laughing.
go to the emblem ring equip menu, select the unit then press right on the dpad on the ring select
game really doesn't explain it, at first i thought the bond rings were just stat boosts for the emblem rings
feels like I’m still doing a shit ton between battles >eating >playing with sommie >collecting pebbles to give to my husband vander >working out >arena >ring + item management
it feels like a lot of busy work and I wish there was less. also the load screens between somniel areas piss me off. having fun tho overall
Isn't a lot of that just optional fluff? That's the beauty of it, outside of ring skills, it's all extremely minor shit you can skip.
I've been skipping all of the fluff. I'm pretty sure that means I don't pick up any ore so I can't upgrade my weapons which sucks. Frick that shit though
Then don't do it? Aside from item management (which you can do in the world map through menus) you don't need to do any of those things unless you're min-maxing, although the arena is very useful
A few Bond Fragments or +1 in a stat won't make that much of a difference
>they change colors >the slowly become a hybrid of their emblem if they use them enough >slowly gain the ability to use all their weapons
This game is so good.
For all the praise people are giving 3H's story, can't help but to think about all the homosexuals who barely comprehended it leading to numerous threads of brain poison. At the very least nobody's gonna play Engage and talk about how the Fell Dragon is actually the good guy.
The funniest thing is that they don't even read the whole story. They praise the "morally grey" memes, but then go fricking nuclear when Dimitri gives food to the poor and Rhea takes orphans and refugees into the church because EMPIRE GOOD EVERYONE ELSE BAD
I think its more likely people will argue over Veyle and whether it was right or not that the main party abuses her when she was unaware of her schizo side
Oh shit, neat. I rolled a bunch of Archanea rings, so roll for Thracia for Olwen?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah you want her S Ring. It's one of the best rings in the game, arguably better than some of the main ones. It'll carry you hard once you lose the main ones. Deirdre from Sigurd's ring is good too because she has Renewal.
>got it first try by simply getting ten from each Emblem >still haven't used it yet
I'll bring it out soon, maybe. Just haven't needed any normal spell besides Fire yet.
3H's story was shit from being far too ambitious and having poor execution. Engage's story was also shit - less shit as it was not nearly as ambitious, and the execution was meh.
FE stories are just shit in general. My favorite was Sacred Stones because of how simple and straightforward it was
3H's story is "good enough" to trick casuals and morons into thinking it's good but the more you play it, especially if you play all of the different routes and just do even a little digging, it falls apart HARD
the type bonuses alear gets from engages are exclusive to that class, so if you're relying on say byleth's buffs you're gonna lock yourself out of access to that. otherwise you can't go wrong with more backup type classes.
>lmao Clanne has a magic growth of 10
Why are growth rates in this game so fricking garbage, I feel like half the challenge of this game is getting + one in hp and dex
I don't have siblings so the concept of fricking people related to you is foreign to me. The veyle thing is hot to me because it's perceived as forbidden on multiple levels
>No hidden recruitable units
Cringe, I miss when these games had actual surprises and not everyone you get being revealed in marketing shit and joining automatically practically
>her s rank dialogue is just "when I grow up I want to marry you" but paraphrased >wholesome and its a trope in literally every culture, something kids literally say >NOA: NO NO NO NO STOP CHANGE THE DIALOGUE SHE CANNOT SAY THAT PLEASE
delete localizers
>three houses has an adult MC grooming entire classrooms of teenagers into romances >nobody cares >Engage has a teenage MC romancing teenage characters >legions of twitter trannies cry out calling the game pedophilic and religiously praising NoA for censorship
But why though? Is it purely because localization has become a fricking culture war issue and now they associate anti-censorship stances with being right-wing nazis? Because that's fricking absurd.
I know you dont care and Im not that anon but I want to spread the info anyway. Her english VA is a known liar and has ruined other VAs careers with the lies she has told about them. Wish her voice wasnt so fricking hot
Great game
Interesting how it's first game since Elibe where you need to actually manage your resources
My guess a lot of tellius newcomers would be mad about that
Well, most of the people they interact with are either royals or their retainers so they've probably seen Alear at least once before they woke up
Also the whole "I have a force ghost of Marth following me around" thing
i figured you could have more rings equipped at once. is there a point to bond rings when you got all 12 main rings? you'll never deploy more than 12 units on average and they seem a lot less powerful
>Fire Emblem 19 (Because 18 is going to be another Echoes) is just going to a game with Male Edelgard, Female Dimitri, A Rhea/Camilla Hybrid, and a Brown Marth
It really doesn't. Multiple conversations are changed. Especially Ingrid's.
But the S supports still remained romantic so the average mouth breather that plays this series didn't care.
>But the S supports still remained romantic so the average mouth breather that plays this series didn't care.
That's part of a good localizer's job, tough. They are adapting the content to the morals you should adhere to, so you will have a better experience.
Yeah but you ignore all the other pieces of dialogue that changed the meaning and the morals. Like >changed the line about Sylvain hitting on a crossdresser to him hitting on a scarecrow >changed Bernie's backstory to leave out the details about her abuse >changed Ingrid and Catherine's support where Ingrid wasn't happy to hear Catherine beat up some dude for no reason, but in the English version she cheered on her >changed Petra's speech patterns to make her sound moronic, and not just a foreigner who doesn't know how to pronounce words in the language she's currently speaking
Just admit you only care about the S supports being romantic because you clearly don't care about the morals of it, otherwise you would have been upset at 3H too
1 year ago
Anonymous
upset? i'm not upset with engage, though? i think they did a good job with the localization. Did i sound sarcastic?
>if she just does 1x2 to everything
fists break mages
Also her attack is pretty good, just do 3 arenas with her once and she'll become must have unit, especially after Yunaka loses rd emblem
Like with many other characters you get early, need some RNG on levelups for STR but like others said, breaking grey units is amazing utility, especially the c**tbag daggers the game spams at you eventually that are for whatever reason tanky as frick and high speed so it's unlikely you'll ever double them.
>Alear and Chloe's B support >Chloe says she likes eating pickled deep sea fish and wants Alear to try it
How does a medieval setting have deep sea fishing?
When am I supposed to be tackling Lyn's map? Tried it after getting Ike and can't beat it, I can't reach the tents in time before reinforcements spawn and Lyn starts moving.
Weird, Lyn and Lucina's maps are the only paralogues I could do the second they appeared
Also, at least on hard Lyn only starts moving after you stop all tents
>Also, at least on hard Lyn only starts moving after you stop all tents
Not the case in maddening. Think there's a 7 turn limit before Lyn moves and reinforcements spawn.
>Send Louis and Diamond along the left back to the right through the middle >Put dagger girl in the bush in the bottom right and work that group up to the right
Those sections are solved, the hard part is then keeping the group in the upper right alive as the initial enemies swarm them. The horse archers near the tents are weak as shit compared to the initial enemies so you can just rush them afterwards. Then you don't have to worry about the reinforcements that will come out near Lyn because there are a bunch of chokepoints where you'll have time to set up and shut them down. I did it as soon as it became available too.
I just beat it on C16 Maddening. Isn't so bad once you gain a few levels and can properly hold the chokepoints. Just leave a single thief in the top left corner and they'll solo every bow knight there and take out the nearby camp. Had Jade hold the bottom right bridge while her and Etie took everything out and cleared out the middle camps with the Alear team.
promote as early as your budget allows. There's no benefit in going through levels 11-20 on an unpromoted unit, you can promote early to take advantages of promotion gains and promoted growths while keeping your internal level low.
Are you on maddening? Better growths in the new class to survive
Otherwise, are you TT for skirmishes? Yes grind to 20 for stats then promote for 10 levels of growth over above set up
>You can reclass infinitely >in the game where gold and secondary/master marks are harshly limited
It's like you just heard epic mayamays on Ganker and never actually played it
Only a few S rings have skills but the ones that do are pretty good.
>don't do the ring gacha, its useless
Your loss
Is there no Wind one? Nino being Giga Excalibur only while the other two are for all tiers kinda sucks since I've been using Elwind more for its lighter weight.
Her Engage skill breaks any chapter with a flying boss because you can just snipe and remove a revival stone from across the map and aggro them without aggroing all the shit around them.
>send out Louis >activate Sigurd >assrape the lone mage, the only enemy who can possibly kill me >1v10 the rest of the map
This fricker legitimately solos half the maps in the game.
>game has a standard pegasus knight >SEXY ANIME GIRL LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT >game has floating island >MAGICAL LAND LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT >game looks like a classic FE game >JUST LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT
>Same with all those farming games trying to cash in on the animal crossing craze
U wot m8, the farming games are Harvest Moon clones, ans those sell modestly besides Stardew.
>DUDE 3H DUD WAS GOOD
What reality? Go ahead. Tell me what reality so I can go into it and have good dubs.
There is maybe 2, 3 TOPS that are decent. And by decent doing the bare min to fricking pass
I'm not. Even though they limit it to three attempts per return in Engage it still takes fricking forever thanks to how long you have to wait between each little bit of it. In 3H you had to do more individual fishing (for the sake of your teacher level) but the fishing itself was way faster, so it was less tedious. And the fishing minigame was also more interesting, not that that's saying much.
Also in 3H you could manipulate which fish you get by passing on the ones that don't match the shadow you're after a few times, in Engage it's pure RNG.
Gameplay is way better
Writing is better too if only because all characters while moronic still follow inner logic, instead of 3h and RD's "cool" moments, but you need to be adult enough to appreciate such effort from writers
Gameplay is better in some ways and worse in others. It runs slightly better. The MC looks like shit but most of the other designs are actually decent. The writing however from the plot to the characters and support scenes is significantly worse, it's a much shallower story with much shallower characterisation than 3H had.
does this game have different writers or how did they manage to frick it up? three houses was pretty good story wise
3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning. This was an integral part of the strategy in 3H and you'd use it while setting up your units each turn to help move forward while protecting the weaker units and effectively baiting enemy units. Engage got rid of that and now only shows when a unit is in range of an enemy and Engage's enemy AI is dumb as bricks and unpredictable, at least on Hard, and you can't know what it's going to do because it'll purposefully ignore units that it can kill in favour of walking up to Louis and hitting him for 0 damage in an assisted suicide. So the whole unit placement aspect of Engage is a step backwards in complexity between the removal of information and the dumb AI. That's my biggest complaint.
Aside from that I think the game is unbalanced as frick, Louis being the most obvious example, I get that they wanted to focus more on specialisation and counters in this game but they went too hard on it to the point that many units can't even damage each other and everything else OHKOs instead. And the map design exacerbates the balance problem because many maps gate your units down two paths where usually each path has an obvious benefiting role (eg. one path will have axemen and swordsmen so you send your axes and swords that way, another path will have swordsmen and lancers so you send your lancers that way that way), you don't need to put your units in a disadvantage because the advantageous types are on the other path.
It's probably a bit harder than 3H was on Hard overall, but I don't feel like it's hard for the right reasons. Oh and Ike's paralogue is pure trial and error, the gimmick in that one essentially forces you to restart the entire map with a new strategy once you know what it is.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning
Yes, and it made game risk free and casual
Now you have indicators which units CAN target which ones of yours, but you will never can be sure
Literally return to roots >at least on Hard, and you can't know what it's going to do because it'll purposefully ignore units that it can kill in favour of walking up to Louis and hitting him for 0 damage in an assisted suicide
Weird, for me AI always targets units he can kill >Aside from that I think the game is unbalanced as frick
Like every single FE game including your favorite 3H? Are you moronic? >at many units can't even damage each other and everything else OHKOs instead
Only if you skipped on leveling them. Return to roots, motherfricker
>Yes, and it made game risk free and casual
In a vacuum al FE are risk free and casual. >HURR JUST PUT HIGH DEF/RES UNIT ON AN EDGE OF A THREAT RANGE TO BAIT THE ENEMY AND THEN GANGBANG THEM XD
The whole point is that the game will put you in situations where you can't handle everything perfectly so you have to figure out how to make the best of a bad situation, that's where the fun comes from.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning
This is literal babby mode.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning. This was an integral part of the strategy in 3H and you'd use it while setting up your units each turn to help move forward while protecting the weaker units and effectively baiting enemy units
Let me rephrase that for you buddy
3H introduced an obsolete line of sight for enemies that removed literally all planning or thought required by players, because 3H was aimed at toddlers that need everything spoon-fed to them and can't just look at movement range+positioning and come up with a turn strategy of their own.
A line of sight, that did absolutely NOTHING btw, because the moment the enemy turn started and one single enemy moved, the others focus changed anyway.
It was not only a moronic normie crutch Inna game that has a strategy layer as shallow as a troonys undilated pussy, but also a completely obsolete mechanic on its own for everyone who's played FE before, and one that didn't even work.
It's removal is 110% a positive thing, and the fact that you cry about it shows that you literally can't even come up with a single turn strategy on your own.
Your entire shitpost shows how far this franchise has fallen that people now defend mechanics everyone wanted removed.
I'm laughing at you, not with you. And I'm not in this thread.
>3H introduced an obsolete line of sight for enemies that removed literally all planning or thought required by players, because 3H was aimed at toddlers that need everything spoon-fed to them and can't just look at movement range+positioning and come up with a turn strategy of their own. >A line of sight, that did absolutely NOTHING btw, because the moment the enemy turn started and one single enemy moved, the others focus changed anyway.
Nice contradiction, homosexual. It either removes all thought required or it's unpredictable as soon as the first enemy moves, which is it? >entire post is "hurr your bad at video games because you liked a game element I didn't"
Good discussion.
should i play this or radiant dawn? i already played >path of radiance >echoes >awakening >fates >3h
liked path of radiance/echoes/3h hated awakening and fates
I wish they'd go back to that instead of the waste of time that the current system is. Although I guess I can just skip them to get a similar experience.
>hilda's siscon brother joins you after you send him her head, Lysithea joins edelgard despite her working for people who ruined her life >Goddess of Law who only cares about law, order and rules with zero emotions because she doesn't have any, becomes emotional and breaks her own rules while deciding to not consult with yumi before judging world >tellius and 3H have god tier writing, how can awakening and others games even compete
Sometimes I just don't understand this place
Not the first time you see this effect.
It's when people make a game their whole identity so when new_game comes out they try their hardest to find something negative and go on nonsensical hyperboles that arent even real.
Whenever you see something like a review bomb out of spite like Engage is getting its a sign of a moronic fanbase.
The same shit happened when FromSoft did Sekiro instead of a DS/Bloodborne or with Zelda 3D vs Zelda 2D
You actually play Engage and you realize how full of shit those people are
and 3H have god tier writing
No one's saying that, though. Stop being moronic. Saying that Engage's writing is worse isn't saying that 3H is one of the best video game scripts ever written.
who to put deidre on
surprisingly pulled it within 20 pulls
was thinking to put it on jean or framme for chain guard shenanigans but i don’t really see if its used often
>dude 3H has GOOD writing teehee >dude lets start a war because UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..... BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE OKAY!?!??!?!
What great writing >FE Fates >dude ummmmmmmmmmmm instead of killing the evil overload LETS HAVE HIM SIT ON A CHAIR >FE Echoes >OMG IS THAT MY LONG LOST LOVE I HAVE PINNED FOR THE ENTIRE GAME? lets not talk LMAO
Anons thinks only ONE of these stories is bad. Just go ahead and let that sink in.
People have to fool themselves 3H had a good plot since they know everything else is shit.
Then you remember its entire plot makes 0 sense and it doesnt even have memorable villains unlike Engage.
The villain rep for 3h in Engage during the final boss is Nemesis, take of that what you will.
A character most people who pretend to have played 3H dont even know exists
ALERT: Anna is a fricking trap unit. Her stats as a berserker are a complete fricking meme compared to axe girl in CH13. What a waste of time all that favoritism was.
Doesn't she have ridiculous growth rates for a magic class? Like 50/50/50 base growth rates in MAG/DEX/SPD before even any class adjustments. Just reclass her I guess.
Should I just switch to normal for my first playthrough?
It honestly feels like stat growths on almost every unit are fricked, while my knight is getting his ass handed to him by simple brigands.
Alright, with a saddened heart I'm benching Anna, gonna level up the yurigay instead.
I think I've made a mistake jumping straight to maddening lol, I kinda assumed I'd still have to ability to grind to a certain degree since the game has a bunch of systems built around farming stuff, like the gachashit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, unfortunately right now arena is your best bet to level someone who fell behind
Also don't forget to eat, even +2 res can make situation better
Game flopped and will be forgotten when the next big release comes while 3H will be remembered forever
All FEs are remembered, niche game please understand.
What's with the difficulty spike in CH17, i don't want to do side quests.
>while 3H will be remembered forever
So this will be the last gameplay centric FE and every game from now on will just be a medieval Persona game?
>So this will be the last gameplay centric FE and every game from now on will just be a medieval Persona game?
If they want the series to be successful, yes
This game is really good though and can be replayed over and over.
Nah
What are you trying to show me? That a royal in a fire emblem game has good stats? Lol.
Yeah Eliwood and Lyn were famously the best sword characters in Blazing Sword
Lyn wasn’t a royal.
they're both nobles not royals from what I remember
This is cope
Regardless you can split the game and only use retainers if you want a challenge.
FE really has become Persona's b***h series.
Perona and SMT is Persona5 b***h series now too
The Becky Engage
>censors any S support with a character under 18 despite the protagonist only being 17
The Stacy Persona 3
>can romance a preteen boy as a high-school girl
Ok but this games maps and gameplay shit on most of the other games.
Don't care and neither does most of this franchise's current fanbase
This is implying that engage isn't already medieval persona
We just want waifus/husbandos and romance with a cozy tactics game, and for frick sake I know plot for it was contrived in Fates, but tell Nintendo to bring back second gen units.
Engage isn't bad, but it's a few steps backwards.
>wanting specifically 2nd gen units
why stop there, give me 3rd gen units
>game introduces calendar system
>iS tHiS a peRsonA gaME?!
By this logic, Princess Maker & Monster Rancher is also persona
>maps are still shit
>gacha elements
>unit balancing is fricking horrible; most characters you get early on are straight up garbage compared to units you get later
>weapon triangle is worthless as there's so many ways to bypass it.
Being slightly better than 3H does not make the gameplay good.
What exactly is your bar for good FE gameolay? Because there's holes in all of them.
The maps in this game are like GBA tier, miles above Three Houses/Awakening, not as good as Conquests gimmicks.
and everything else is shittier than those games, your point?
What 'everything else'? The game is the game.
Everything to do with the characters, dialogue, story, reasons to touch the game more than once
Bro? Your YouTube? Don't tell me you actually played through Three Houses thrice?
I played through twice but appreciated that there was content for each route and paired endings unique to each one even though I never saw them all
Compared to Engage which is the same shit every time no matter what, lazier less ambitious game
>maps are shit
Let’s see your idea of a good map, because the maps here are some of the best in the series, you fricking clown.
Why do you think EnGAYge flopped?
Story is too simple after 3H
No shipping
Pandering reduced
Characters are Fates tier tropey
No replay value at all because every run is the same and there's no payoff for different support A ranks
Bro your trials? They put a Multiplayer FE Mario Maker in the game, you are upgrading your weapons right?
Don’t care, anything after Awakening is Waifu Fanservice Cancer
Are we going to pretend that the gba and snes games had no waifu pandering?
no, no, no, anon. You weren't asked the reasons why Engage flopped. The question was why do you think it flopped, while it didn't. What makes you think it did?
>Characters are Fates tier tropey
If you think all the characters in 3H besides the main lords and church units aren't Fates tier tropey too you're delusional
Sylvain is the "tropiest" character in 3H and he is better written than anyithing in engayge
Sylvain is one of the least tropey in 3H since his trope is actually a fakeout to hide he's a raging misogynist, which is why he's one of the rare based character in that game
>trope is actually a fakeout
that's literally every character in 3H besides Raphael
Not really, there's no fakeout for Caspar, Bernadetta, Mercedes, Ignatz, etc...
They may seem deeper since they're in a better written story that has actual conflict but if they were in engage, fates or awakening they'd be pretty one note.
>3H threads already being archived with 0 posts
Sorry anon...
Hahaha what? No one cares about three houses, it was the game that killed the franchise with censorship after fates elevated it
Shez won.
Why the the do people love the shitty Mosou clone so much?
No idea. 3H was already low effort because they repurposed the musou engine to cut on development time and the game still felt unfinished. 3Nopes not only reuses the engine again, but it also reuses all the assets from 3H so its a reuse of a reuse. The ultimate low effort game.
I also liked calling it 3 Jokes
People like 3H's characters and setting
Something nobody will ever say about Engage
I do like the setting and map. The worlds design feels simple and effective. The story doesn’t need to be deep so they can focus on map design and combat variety.
I like the setting, it's definitely more visually interesting than 3H. Storywise though 3H obviously has better lore and thus a better world.
Shez > Alear
wtf. lol
Claude did it again.
joking aside deer bros got robbed
When is the fricking DLC for Hopes!? There’s so much obviously unfinished shit
All those questions will be resolved in 3H2
Truthfully , I’m just asking for the bare minimum of an actual finished story mode (all of the routes end in “the war continues”) and adding all the tons of characters that were playable in 3H like the teachers.
who?
Apologize
Reminder that unlike previous games promoting early won't affect your XP gains at all so there is 0 reasons not to promote asap since you can go back to level 1 once you hit cap.
Well you don't get Master Seals fast enough regardless
>there is 0 reasons not to promote asap
Seals cost money which is in extremely short supply in this game
Money isn't the issue, it's that seals are difficult to come by. Makes characters like Yunaka and Kagetsu even more valuable as they don't need those precious seals.
What do you think for Master Seal priority?
I used my first on Celine already, got another to spare. I'm on Chapter 9 Maddening.
If you're on maddening, Louis. Otherwise the nobles since they get unique classes. Diamant in particular gets Sol and Alcryst gets Luna Celine gets Ignus etc
Alear first then whoever you like although Diamante, mages and fliers benefit a lot from promoting
EL DIAMANTE
Chloe
My first playthrough I only used royals and the twins. It felt pretty hard on hard still. Am I a stupid?
Oh and Anna. She sucks.
>the majority of your units are just royals and their retainers
You can divide it slightly
>Royal heirs
>Royal sibling
>Heir Retainers
>Sibling retainers
>the elderly
>Anna and thief girl
And the heirs are the only ones who appear in cutscenes
All royals are in a lot of cutscenes.
Don't forget adorable shota medic
It was shit when Fates did it and it's shit when Engage does it.
That b***h is the Pontaff Graff of Fire Emblem Meta Era
Can we pair the gameplay director of this game with the scenario director of 3H or PoR/RD or Sacred Stones...
>Path of Fujos and Radiant Baras
Yeah how about no
bros I'm getting filtered by chapter 8, I've tried like 7 times but get swarmed to death every time or get crit to death by the retainers, I've tried turtling on the ballista or just ignoring it but I lose everytime
Slap Sigurd on Louis and have him block one side of the ballista, have Diamant block the other side, bait Ivy into range, and shoot her down with the Ballista
When in doubt retreat and hope you can catch them in a bad spot.
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Fire Emblem Engage torrent is live.
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[Emulators]
Yuzu
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Ryujinx
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>they had the balls to take away my undo button
I was mad they cut this from 3H, glad they decided to try it for this game. This map reminds me of fe5 chapter 7.
Who gets Ike in this game anyway?
I kept it canon the first time and gave it to the black girl Terra or whatever. She’s a total powerhouse and that charge move is busted. She can wipe 5 people at once.
>breaks your penis
>Ike paralogue
>Going surprisingly well for how rough the map looked like it would be at first glance
>Ike starts moving
>mfw
>mfw it’s the fortress map from path of radiance
Broooos I can’t believe you’re not having as much fun as me. It’s clearly one of the best fire emblems! Get to chapter 20 at least.
>It gets fun 2 chapters before the end bro
I'm having fun unironically. Ch10-11 was peak Fire Emblem.
Based.
Wait how many chapter are there? I’m on 23 and it feels like there are around 7 more.
26
That’s normal for these games and like I said it’s literally built to be replayed over and over.
So are the wrest of the bracelets going to be divine dragons from the series? Rhea will be one.
>like I said it’s literally built to be replayed over and over.
No it isn't
26 Story Chapters, then optional paralogs.
I literally dropped the game after watching that fricking ntr scene where alear is crying for the fell dragon guy to stop corrupting the emblems. I normally don't care about story that much, but that was just too cringe and honestly none of the characters resonated with me at all.
In past games I always find at least one character I like enough and try to invest most of the resources into them but I could not find the motivation this time
The story is actually good and has some unexpected and also emotional moments. I can’t find anything bad with the game.
>The story is actually good
good one
It’s unironically a normal jrpg story.
Haven't you heard? Anime bad.
It’s good. I can’t really talk about why I like it without major spoilers.
>it's good!
>no it's not
>b-but that's normal!
ok moron, i'll just accept your concession now
it's good cause it's bad but it's not good cause it's good. My biggest gripe with it is that they are trying to turn it into something serious around CH11
No, if it was Zephia and Gris would be romance options
I need Gris bonds…
>The story is actually good
>The story is actually good and has some unexpected and also emotional moments
Bro are you tone deaf?
I was wondering what they were going to do with his swimsuit
Apparently he just wears all the female versions of every outfit
cowards won't even let him wear the bikini bottom without shorts. Shameful
C'mon, man.
I agree, I'm not following what problems people say they have with it.
It's not muh morally grey GoT wannabe wank and has a clearly defined good and bad side, which is verboten in Current Year
I hate "muh morally grey" memes, because it literally never is.
>Nohr and Hoshido
>Nohr literally raping, pillaging and plundering Hoshido's lands for the fun of it
>"morally grey"
>the Adrestian Empire is genuinely evil in a bunch of ways, Ionius was a genuine tyrant and Edelgard idolizes him, and is the attacking force during peacetime
>Edelgard promises her regime where you become her citizen by force or at swordpoint will be peaceful
>"morally grey"
I still choose Nohr because Hoshido is fricking lame. I shit on the Nipwank
I mean, even Japan was on board with Nohr, they have cool ass armor designs, the Black and Purple theme is aesthetic as frick, it had Conquest.
Them not actually being morally grey doesn't mean the games and their fans don't pretend they are
This game is unafraid to say "yeah Evil McGenocide is the villain go frick him up" and pseuds hate that
>This game is unafraid to say "yeah Evil McGenocide is the villain go frick him up" and pseuds hate that
Yeah until Mami, Zephia and Gris get undeserved sob story exits from the story and Veyle is total dindu
I'm not that far in (I'm pretty sure I'm about halfway) but I haven't really noticed anything wrong with it. It's not the most interesting story, and the twists so far have been predictable, but if we're comparing it to fateswakening I feel like either people don't properly remember how bad those games were story-wise or it has to nosedive right past where I'm at.
It’s a way better story than fates and the best parts of the story are from chapters 18-23.
It's just your average FE story.
It's way better than Fates. I have a bit of a soft spot for Awakening though as it was my first FE.
I genuinely don't understand the seething hatred and vitriol people have towards a very whitebread, vanilla Fire Emblem story. Same with Awakening, sure it's not really good but games like FE7 and FE8 also had a very vanilla story. I swear the Tellius/Echoes/3H crowd don't actually like the franchise as a whole or something.
People have higher expectations after 3H you tard how do you not get that?
It's mostly shitposters I think. 3h story wasn't even as good as Tellius so I don't think it's them.
>3H crowd
>the rest
>it's not as bad as the worst story in the entire series
Ok but that doesn't make it good
>The story is actually good
Hi there MC let me tell you how much you mean to me all of a sudden whoops I get fricked in the face in the next map wow what a strange coincidence
That's a fight that are you losing just saying
Yep
Alear is kinda lame in that scene. I'm hoping it's setting up for some character growth moment later where he man's up.
Not even Corrin had a cuck moment of such proportions.
From the start Alear’s first instinct was to run from the Corrupted instead of fight them when any other lord would have tried to fight. The dude up until that then is a pansy and was hard carried by the rings which is why he’s freaking out so much.
Yeah, that's the vibe I was getting. I hope they don't just forget about it later.
The story to gameplay consequence was fricking fantastic though.
Not having any Emblems nukes your power level while the enemies abuse the shit out of the ones you were relying on.
Opening the menu after making a bad move only to realize your time crystal got swiped.
Perfection.
Alear becomes notably more confident and less of a b***h as the game progresses, both in cutscenes and in combat animations
For example, early game when they dodge they're just avoiding attacks normally, while later on they'll be actively parrying stuff and cutting arrows out of the air
The point of that scene is, Alear up to that point was objectively a weakling that was relying on the Emblem crutch super hard, and the realization that he was fricked without them just suddenly hits and fricks him up mentally
the problem is that you're playing a male. alear is a female and is meant to have her friends cucked by someone with a penis.
It’s very obvious after playing the game that the female is canon. Male just doesn’t feel like that’s what they wanted. Not my problem.
i can't be the only one that likes the dogshit dialogue, it's like they purposefully made it as bad as humanly possible, toothpaste is a walking talking female corpse and i can't stop laughing.
how the frick do i make SP
i actually gotta equip the emblem rings on my units to gain sp? i can't just level them up in training?
Apparently bond rings make SP somehow? I can’t figure this shit out either. Eventually they start gaining it pretty fast through battle.
Just equipping the gacha rings gives SP the same way the emblems do.
How do you equip them? I didn’t know about this the whole game.
go to the emblem ring equip menu, select the unit then press right on the dpad on the ring select
game really doesn't explain it, at first i thought the bond rings were just stat boosts for the emblem rings
i just realized you can actually equip bond rings on the units that don't have emblem rings l m a o
i'll see how it goes next chapter
Doing shit while having a bond ring equipped, the tutorial said.
>Great sacrifice
>150sp
Lack of NG+ to carry for SP
>NoA trannies censored so hard they censored Rosado's S-Support
The frick is the point of having a trap if you can't engage with his boyhole?
He's 17 and 364 days old you sick frick.
Out of 10
I'm impressed by how big Goldmary actually is, those things are massive, I wasn't expecting that
This game is surprisingly soulful. Characters actually have unique body types. Jade is THICC AF.
I want to put her in a swimsuit to see if her hometown is as big as it seems compared to the other adult females, haven't gotten her yet.
>Characters actually have unique body types.
>No MILF characters like 3H
Yeah you're full of shit
>one specific type isn't represented therefore all characters are the same
Not sure I follow your logic
Correct
Jade has a milf body though?
tit's ain't touching the ground
feels like I’m still doing a shit ton between battles
>eating
>playing with sommie
>collecting pebbles to give to my husband vander
>working out
>arena
>ring + item management
it feels like a lot of busy work and I wish there was less. also the load screens between somniel areas piss me off. having fun tho overall
Isn't a lot of that just optional fluff? That's the beauty of it, outside of ring skills, it's all extremely minor shit you can skip.
Just starts skipping it when you don’t feel like it. None of that stuff has to be done immediately.
Literally none of it except picking up loot from your stables is important. I skip everything other than arena.
I've been skipping all of the fluff. I'm pretty sure that means I don't pick up any ore so I can't upgrade my weapons which sucks. Frick that shit though
Isn't ore automatically gained passively? You can get bonuses from having dogs, but it's a small optional bonus.
I skip the dog/pet shit too. It's not purely passive, I haven't gotten any ore in quite a while
Then don't do it? Aside from item management (which you can do in the world map through menus) you don't need to do any of those things unless you're min-maxing, although the arena is very useful
A few Bond Fragments or +1 in a stat won't make that much of a difference
skip all that shit but eating and getting stones if you need weapon upgrades
>Put Etie in the Noon Skirt
>Her abs disappear
>Promote Chloe to griffon rider
>Her cleavage is gone
>How do you like my new outfit?
I maxed out that dogs love and nothing happened. Kind of betrayed.
you only get something if you play female alear. sorry.
>Timerra's mom and Celine's mom are way hotter than the daughters
GIVE ME MILFS OR GIVE ME DEATH
you have chosen death, I see
This isn't 3H you aren't getting hot mature women in this
I WANT TO CUM INSIDE YUNAKA
>Give Fogado Corrin
>win
Why is there so little fanart?
Everyone is playing the game.
3H had tons of fanart even pre-release
I don’t remember that. Probably just making shit up.
Keep coping
it's ogre
designs are terrible and characters are boring
Most of the male characters are terrible. Heavy handed with the low T.
YUNAKA'S FAT breasts
Oooh, sweet papaya.
Yapapt eew shooo.
>they change colors
>the slowly become a hybrid of their emblem if they use them enough
>slowly gain the ability to use all their weapons
This game is so good.
Berserker or Warrior for Anna?
She’s trash no matter what.
I don't have any other axe units.
bench
Mage 50 50 50 45 is godlike follow up with mage knight for MOV
I like her aesthetic with an axe. I'll just give her a Hurricane Axe eventually to use that MAG.
I just finished Fire emblem 9, what should i play now?
10 obviously.
Actually make her a warrior and put Ike on her and she should be ok.
Radiant Dawn is bad though
Play Tactics Ogre
Why did you play 9 after 10?
Why is radiant dawn bad?
I thought it was really good.
It's not a real Fire Emblem game. Also enemy and Ally phases can take like 10 minutes real time.
If its harder than fe9 then i'm in because i played on hard and only lost like 5 units
It’s hard as frick and better than 9 but not by much. It’s long too.
Good enough
It's harder but it's not as interesting as PoR
It's actually really good.
For all the praise people are giving 3H's story, can't help but to think about all the homosexuals who barely comprehended it leading to numerous threads of brain poison. At the very least nobody's gonna play Engage and talk about how the Fell Dragon is actually the good guy.
But he is THOUGH
The funniest thing is that they don't even read the whole story. They praise the "morally grey" memes, but then go fricking nuclear when Dimitri gives food to the poor and Rhea takes orphans and refugees into the church because EMPIRE GOOD EVERYONE ELSE BAD
>how the Fell Dragon is actually the good guy.
He's gonna turn good in the DLC story :^)
Sombron is literally Nergal if Nergal never forgot his goals and reason why he's doing all of it
So just give it time, people will defend him
I think its more likely people will argue over Veyle and whether it was right or not that the main party abuses her when she was unaware of her schizo side
I ain't never played no Fire Emblem game before. Tell me which to play first right now.
Thracia 776
>recommending the sequel
>recommending Kagaslop
schizo era kaga is shit.
Engage is a good place to start or emulate FE7
Obviously 9 and then 10 and then engage.
Advance Wars
Awakening.
Reminder to get Olwen's S Bond Ring from Leif before starting Chapter 10
It will carry you hard
>just dump all your bond fragments on rng shit
no thanks
What else are you using it on lmao
bond levels
They max out in combat pretty quick unless you are using every unit on the first run.
>>just dump all your bond fragments on rng shit
You're going to regret not stocking up on them.
Different anon here, will you even need the supplemental bond rings once you collect all the main ones?
>Different anon here, will you even need the supplemental bond rings once you collect all the main ones?
You lose some of them.
Oh shit, neat. I rolled a bunch of Archanea rings, so roll for Thracia for Olwen?
Yeah you want her S Ring. It's one of the best rings in the game, arguably better than some of the main ones. It'll carry you hard once you lose the main ones. Deirdre from Sigurd's ring is good too because she has Renewal.
>got it first try by simply getting ten from each Emblem
>still haven't used it yet
I'll bring it out soon, maybe. Just haven't needed any normal spell besides Fire yet.
Why is she dressed like Batgirl?
3H's story was shit from being far too ambitious and having poor execution. Engage's story was also shit - less shit as it was not nearly as ambitious, and the execution was meh.
FE stories are just shit in general.
My favorite was Sacred Stones because of how simple and straightforward it was
Much based, I’m currently playing through Sacred Stones right now, it was als my first game, I’m revisiting it.
3H's story is "good enough" to trick casuals and morons into thinking it's good but the more you play it, especially if you play all of the different routes and just do even a little digging, it falls apart HARD
It's good in the sense that it at least tried to be different and generated discussion
What discussion about Engage's story is there? None
Talk about cool strategic moves instead homosexual.
Not sure if posting "stupid dragon" bernie bernie" "church bad >:(" for 5 years counts as discussion
I´m an Archaneagay and I love the simple, but solid stories of FE1/11 and FE3/12, it´s a pretty enjoyable journey all around.
So Yunaka is clearly an assassin. Where is her promotion?
Yeah I’m also confused why she has no promotion.
thieves go to lvl 30 no promo
it's a FE3 reference
What's the best class for Alear? I've got him in Divine Dragon as a placeholder but I've considered Hero, Great Knight, or Wyvern Rider
the type bonuses alear gets from engages are exclusive to that class, so if you're relying on say byleth's buffs you're gonna lock yourself out of access to that. otherwise you can't go wrong with more backup type classes.
In previous threads, some people said Hero was really good.
I am disappointed i can’t choose my outfit in battle or permanently get a mono tone hair colo though.
you know that they'll be milking that shit hard in dlc
Whew! Thank God I’m not investing myself in this corporate cashgrab
you don't invest in games... are you actually moronic?
If you can’t change it from battle now you probably never will be able to. I’m sure there will be DLC outfits just for the base though.
If you give Alear tiki I bet he could solo the rest of the game.
Is giving Clanne Celica's ring a stupid idea?
Nah anyone with high magic will be strong with her.
Yes, Clanne should be reclassed due to his abysmal magic growths
lmao Clanne has a magic growth of 10, give it to a character that can actually make use of it
>lmao Clanne has a magic growth of 10
Why are growth rates in this game so fricking garbage, I feel like half the challenge of this game is getting + one in hp and dex
>Jean's first roll in Maddening is fricking +1 HP
man IS is REALLY taking the piss with these fricking rolls huh?
the second is much better
here's hoping. doing the mental calculus to let him kill someone and getting that roll was depressing
i thought they were predetermined for everyone? i don't really know
Fixed growths. Anyone that doesn't have at least 50% will get nothing on first level up I believe.
i thought that the stat growths were just seeded at the start of the playthrough, not that everyone had the same growths
No, they are the same for everyone. They actually balanced Maddening around it.
You can get random growths back once you beat it though.
outside of the ultimate cringe story elements you can tell that the gameplay had a lot of thought and soul put into it
This anon speaks the truth.
I would have liked to be able to choose random growths from the start, though.
It's Maddening isn't it?
Engage is good for the sole reason that you can marry and impregnate your blood related sister.
>You can marry and be impregnated by your blood related sister
Fixed
BASED
These anons clearly don't have siblings. Incest is fricking gross.
I wonder what possesses people to make posts like these. Do you think incest isn't real or something?
Tell me your sister is fugly without telling me she is. I still tapped it
Wrong on both counts.
I don't have siblings so the concept of fricking people related to you is foreign to me. The veyle thing is hot to me because it's perceived as forbidden on multiple levels
>No hidden recruitable units
Cringe, I miss when these games had actual surprises and not everyone you get being revealed in marketing shit and joining automatically practically
data miners took all the soul out of hiding things in games
No, lazy devs did.
I can't stop hearing the Mou Ikai song everytime the loading screen pops up
>brown tomboy milf queen
SEXOOOOOOOO
The moms are hotter than any of the actual playable girls
Why couldn't we get Zephia
Actually a goblin lol
Not a goblin, a brat
>her s rank dialogue is just "when I grow up I want to marry you" but paraphrased
>wholesome and its a trope in literally every culture, something kids literally say
>NOA: NO NO NO NO STOP CHANGE THE DIALOGUE SHE CANNOT SAY THAT PLEASE
delete localizers
>three houses has an adult MC grooming entire classrooms of teenagers into romances
>nobody cares
>Engage has a teenage MC romancing teenage characters
>legions of twitter trannies cry out calling the game pedophilic and religiously praising NoA for censorship
But why though? Is it purely because localization has become a fricking culture war issue and now they associate anti-censorship stances with being right-wing nazis? Because that's fricking absurd.
>voiced by hambeast and notorious liar Rial
switching to JP asap
No idea who that is and I don't care. I will never play with chink voices.
I know you dont care and Im not that anon but I want to spread the info anyway. Her english VA is a known liar and has ruined other VAs careers with the lies she has told about them.
Wish her voice wasnt so fricking hot
Looking at these faces causes my eyes literal pain.
Hiya papaya
11 vaganias
Three Houses was for adults, Engage is for children.
Doesn’t matter, Advance Wars is for Legends
coulda fooled me. I've seen 3H threads
I've yet to see a single design from this game that isn't complete shit.
But the whole game is shit?
Great game
Interesting how it's first game since Elibe where you need to actually manage your resources
My guess a lot of tellius newcomers would be mad about that
Why does everyone believe Alear when he says he's the Divine Dragon? Shouldn't he transform or something to show proof?
Fake News
Well, most of the people they interact with are either royals or their retainers so they've probably seen Alear at least once before they woke up
Also the whole "I have a force ghost of Marth following me around" thing
i figured you could have more rings equipped at once. is there a point to bond rings when you got all 12 main rings? you'll never deploy more than 12 units on average and they seem a lot less powerful
>30% less sales on release than 3 Houses
>With negative word of mouth from Normies
Fug we're going back to Persona Emblem
Surely they will remember to find good localizers next time now.
>Fire Emblem 19 (Because 18 is going to be another Echoes) is just going to a game with Male Edelgard, Female Dimitri, A Rhea/Camilla Hybrid, and a Brown Marth
>it's an "anon thinks 3H had a good translation" episode
It really doesn't. Multiple conversations are changed. Especially Ingrid's.
But the S supports still remained romantic so the average mouth breather that plays this series didn't care.
>But the S supports still remained romantic so the average mouth breather that plays this series didn't care.
That's part of a good localizer's job, tough. They are adapting the content to the morals you should adhere to, so you will have a better experience.
Yeah but you ignore all the other pieces of dialogue that changed the meaning and the morals. Like
>changed the line about Sylvain hitting on a crossdresser to him hitting on a scarecrow
>changed Bernie's backstory to leave out the details about her abuse
>changed Ingrid and Catherine's support where Ingrid wasn't happy to hear Catherine beat up some dude for no reason, but in the English version she cheered on her
>changed Petra's speech patterns to make her sound moronic, and not just a foreigner who doesn't know how to pronounce words in the language she's currently speaking
Just admit you only care about the S supports being romantic because you clearly don't care about the morals of it, otherwise you would have been upset at 3H too
upset? i'm not upset with engage, though? i think they did a good job with the localization. Did i sound sarcastic?
>He thinks bongs physical sales are an indication of anything
I can't believe it's January and my GOTY is already out. I love Engage.
Every female unit looks so frickable when engaged with the 3H ring. That uniform + purple hair is too fricking good
The 3H ring gives purple hair? Why is that?
Now she looks even more like a man.
tfw Ike breaks down the entire castle and hauls ass towards you
>He turtled?
>game design : 2 triangles means it's balanced
>ike: LOL ARMOR EVERYTHING
>desert map
>music suddenly becomes kino
HEY HEY
HEY
I don't see what the point of framme being able to attack is if she just does 1x2 to everything
Kick a nerd and throw his book to the floor
>if she just does 1x2 to everything
fists break mages
Also her attack is pretty good, just do 3 arenas with her once and she'll become must have unit, especially after Yunaka loses rd emblem
Starting mid game thieves start being able to ruin your day. Being able to break grey units is really handy
Like with many other characters you get early, need some RNG on levelups for STR but like others said, breaking grey units is amazing utility, especially the c**tbag daggers the game spams at you eventually that are for whatever reason tanky as frick and high speed so it's unlikely you'll ever double them.
>came to freedom country
>white peasants are ruled by black royalty
hmmm
>Alear and Chloe's B support
>Chloe says she likes eating pickled deep sea fish and wants Alear to try it
How does a medieval setting have deep sea fishing?
For the same reason the shota doctor has a wristwatch
When am I supposed to be tackling Lyn's map? Tried it after getting Ike and can't beat it, I can't reach the tents in time before reinforcements spawn and Lyn starts moving.
I did it right when it opened and cleared just fine
Weird, Lyn and Lucina's maps are the only paralogues I could do the second they appeared
Also, at least on hard Lyn only starts moving after you stop all tents
>Also, at least on hard Lyn only starts moving after you stop all tents
Not the case in maddening. Think there's a 7 turn limit before Lyn moves and reinforcements spawn.
definitely not the case because she started moving for me when i had the two lower left where she spawns on hard
You will never overcome Sacae.
>Send Louis and Diamond along the left back to the right through the middle
>Put dagger girl in the bush in the bottom right and work that group up to the right
Those sections are solved, the hard part is then keeping the group in the upper right alive as the initial enemies swarm them. The horse archers near the tents are weak as shit compared to the initial enemies so you can just rush them afterwards. Then you don't have to worry about the reinforcements that will come out near Lyn because there are a bunch of chokepoints where you'll have time to set up and shut them down. I did it as soon as it became available too.
I just beat it on C16 Maddening. Isn't so bad once you gain a few levels and can properly hold the chokepoints. Just leave a single thief in the top left corner and they'll solo every bow knight there and take out the nearby camp. Had Jade hold the bottom right bridge while her and Etie took everything out and cleared out the middle camps with the Alear team.
Bros I just finished chapter 4 this story is so fricking stupid I want to die it’s not even fun stupid like CQ I am literally going to die of cringe
You're gonna love chapter 10 lmao.
Do I unlock a Tsubasa emblem or something
You receive a fatal dosage of cringe.
Are you meant to early promote as soon as you hit level 10 on units? Or wait until level 20?
promote as early as your budget allows. There's no benefit in going through levels 11-20 on an unpromoted unit, you can promote early to take advantages of promotion gains and promoted growths while keeping your internal level low.
Just like every single other FE game, better wait until 20lvl to get more stats out of it
Are you on maddening? Better growths in the new class to survive
Otherwise, are you TT for skirmishes? Yes grind to 20 for stats then promote for 10 levels of growth over above set up
Don't listen to this
gay. You can reclass infinitely, and exp gain doesn't change so promote as soon as you can.
>You can reclass infinitely
>in the game where gold and secondary/master marks are harshly limited
It's like you just heard epic mayamays on Ganker and never actually played it
>gold is harshly limited
Yeah I’m severely regretting buying all the clothes at the boutique for no damn reason. I don’t even use any of them, they all suck.
What the frick are you meant to do with her? Her stats are even across the board.
Slap her into armor perhaps? Her bulk's not awful.
Her chest is as flat as a board
not sure how true it is but i've heard people say that the class drastically alters growths
Bench her and use here far more useful retainers. Seriously, Louis and Chloe are carrying my playthrough on maddening.
Unironically, put her in an armor.
The most heterosexual possible relationship.
>no paired endings
>don't do the ring gacha, its useless
Your loss
Wait what the frick is this? None of the S ranks I've gotten had any skills.
Are you moronic or pretending?
Only a few S rings have skills but the ones that do are pretty good.
Is there no Wind one? Nino being Giga Excalibur only while the other two are for all tiers kinda sucks since I've been using Elwind more for its lighter weight.
I'm expecting there to be one but it's not on Merric, Lewyn, Ced. It could be on Soren but I don't have his S yet.
Bro... your Dire Thunder?
Dire Thunder only applies to Thunder, not its upgrades
Only a few S ranks in each series come with a skill
Reinhardt is the only ring that really competes with an emblem ring.
>No Dire Thunder
NGMI
Load save then roll in other emblems, the exact same roll will be S letting you check choices
Would if I had enough bond fragments. Rolled for 10 with Sigurd and got an S class Finn with Miracle which I haven't even procced yet.
Mae is important!
>Fire Emblem: "We want the Genshin audience" edition
My knees are ready when it sells big.
The grind for A rank supports is fricking insane, I've had lunch with Louis like 8 times since getting B rank and it still hasn't gone up to A.
Is this a game where Master Seals fricks your XP gains, or should I just let it rock at level 10?
promote early
units have internal levels, so best upgrade your class as early as possible to benefit from the advanced unit gains
Promote as late as you're willing to grind it's free stats over those paying to level reset in advanced classes
>cant build supports purely to birth the best children
Whats the point now
Just wait until the Genealogy remake.
Hiya Papaya Zappies!
Thoughts on her?
Rapeable thighs
Her Engage skill breaks any chapter with a flying boss because you can just snipe and remove a revival stone from across the map and aggro them without aggroing all the shit around them.
Speedtaker made my Louis untouchable
I WILL NOT DO HER PARALOGUE, I WILL NOT GO BACK TO SACAE
Makes me want to respec Ivy into sniper
Chest could be bigger but no shorts is a plus. Alacrity++ is a god tier skill for high SPD chars
Her Japanese voice is terrible and it's destroying my image of her
How is it possible there’s still not a consensus on when to promote? I hate it.
Promote early, anyone telling you otherwise hasn't realized how internal levels work and/or they're moronic
Promote late, the level has a miniscule effect on leveling slower in Advanced classes
RISE FROM A THOUSAND YEARS AGO
why
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DIVINE DRAGON-SAMA!!!!! SHOW MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheesekino. Did the intro not clue you in that this game is taking the piss with the story?
>send out Louis
>activate Sigurd
>assrape the lone mage, the only enemy who can possibly kill me
>1v10 the rest of the map
This fricker legitimately solos half the maps in the game.
>There's two of them
It's illegal
>its another break immune boss
but every boss was break immune until 2 days ago
Why can't they just make a good Fire Emblem game? Seems like they always shit the bed in at least one aspect (either story or gameplay).
What were they thinking?
Sex sexo sex
>game has a standard pegasus knight
>SEXY ANIME GIRL LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT
>game has floating island
>MAGICAL LAND LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT
>game looks like a classic FE game
>JUST LIKE GENSHIN IMPACT
Yes. Because Genshin made big bucks. Same with all those farming games trying to cash in on the animal crossing craze.
Keep in mind, the early leaks all came China as well.
>Same with all those farming games trying to cash in on the animal crossing craze
U wot m8, the farming games are Harvest Moon clones, ans those sell modestly besides Stardew.
What's Veyle's japanese S support?
Is it incesty? Does she wear the ring on her ring finger?
It's just less vague about it.
I miss when our villains used to look like picrelated. A small tiny girl is not threatening in the slightest.
She's your beloved imouto not a villain.
>world of warcraft designed shoulders
I pass
How much less subtle?
https://streamable.com/9nmwag
Cringe kino
holy frick the dub is so bad
>press play
>hear dub
>immediately close
how the frick do we go from three houses' dub to this?
You will never be Japanese.
the characters in this game are literal clowns jfc
Yes.
Who do I give Edeltards ring to?
>Gold skirmish appears on map
>Play it
>Didn't have a single gold drop in it
At least whoever last hit the gold got huge SP gains
There are skirmishes in this game? I'm at ch.10 and never encountered any. Do they appear later on or is it because I'm on maddening?
They don't spawn on maddening
Maddening gets 1 after Ch 11.
>DUDE 3H DUD WAS GOOD
What reality? Go ahead. Tell me what reality so I can go into it and have good dubs.
There is maybe 2, 3 TOPS that are decent. And by decent doing the bare min to fricking pass
How high does Louis rank in terms of Armor Knights in the series?
so how does this game compare to three houses? is it any good? are the characters likable?
Yes, it's great
The writing is dogshit, the characters are dogshit, the gameplay is better.
does this game have different writers or how did they manage to frick it up? three houses was pretty good story wise
3H sucked story wise. They created a compelling premise for the 3 royals and then failed to deliver on them. The whole thing felt unfinished
It's better, they are.
Legitimately better in every aspect
Better gameplay, worse writing.
They somehow made the fishing even worse
Why are you lying?
>3H
5 second minigame
>engay
30 second minigame
I'm not. Even though they limit it to three attempts per return in Engage it still takes fricking forever thanks to how long you have to wait between each little bit of it. In 3H you had to do more individual fishing (for the sake of your teacher level) but the fishing itself was way faster, so it was less tedious. And the fishing minigame was also more interesting, not that that's saying much.
Also in 3H you could manipulate which fish you get by passing on the ones that don't match the shadow you're after a few times, in Engage it's pure RNG.
>And the fishing minigame was also more interesting, not that that's saying much
It was just press a
Story and characters are fricking abysmal
Gameplay is way better
Writing is better too if only because all characters while moronic still follow inner logic, instead of 3h and RD's "cool" moments, but you need to be adult enough to appreciate such effort from writers
Better Gameplay
Better Story
Honk-Honk Characters
Just skip every cutscene and dialog
10/10
Gameplay is better in some ways and worse in others. It runs slightly better. The MC looks like shit but most of the other designs are actually decent. The writing however from the plot to the characters and support scenes is significantly worse, it's a much shallower story with much shallower characterisation than 3H had.
They brought back Fates' writer. For some reason.
>Gameplay is better in some ways and worse in others
elaborate
Which part of gameplay is worse?
3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning. This was an integral part of the strategy in 3H and you'd use it while setting up your units each turn to help move forward while protecting the weaker units and effectively baiting enemy units. Engage got rid of that and now only shows when a unit is in range of an enemy and Engage's enemy AI is dumb as bricks and unpredictable, at least on Hard, and you can't know what it's going to do because it'll purposefully ignore units that it can kill in favour of walking up to Louis and hitting him for 0 damage in an assisted suicide. So the whole unit placement aspect of Engage is a step backwards in complexity between the removal of information and the dumb AI. That's my biggest complaint.
Aside from that I think the game is unbalanced as frick, Louis being the most obvious example, I get that they wanted to focus more on specialisation and counters in this game but they went too hard on it to the point that many units can't even damage each other and everything else OHKOs instead. And the map design exacerbates the balance problem because many maps gate your units down two paths where usually each path has an obvious benefiting role (eg. one path will have axemen and swordsmen so you send your axes and swords that way, another path will have swordsmen and lancers so you send your lancers that way that way), you don't need to put your units in a disadvantage because the advantageous types are on the other path.
It's probably a bit harder than 3H was on Hard overall, but I don't feel like it's hard for the right reasons. Oh and Ike's paralogue is pure trial and error, the gimmick in that one essentially forces you to restart the entire map with a new strategy once you know what it is.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning
Yes, and it made game risk free and casual
Now you have indicators which units CAN target which ones of yours, but you will never can be sure
Literally return to roots
>at least on Hard, and you can't know what it's going to do because it'll purposefully ignore units that it can kill in favour of walking up to Louis and hitting him for 0 damage in an assisted suicide
Weird, for me AI always targets units he can kill
>Aside from that I think the game is unbalanced as frick
Like every single FE game including your favorite 3H? Are you moronic?
>at many units can't even damage each other and everything else OHKOs instead
Only if you skipped on leveling them. Return to roots, motherfricker
>Yes, and it made game risk free and casual
t. never played 3H on maddening
I did
Byleth alone could solo most of maps with nothing being able to hit him
>Yes, and it made game risk free and casual
In a vacuum al FE are risk free and casual.
>HURR JUST PUT HIGH DEF/RES UNIT ON AN EDGE OF A THREAT RANGE TO BAIT THE ENEMY AND THEN GANGBANG THEM XD
The whole point is that the game will put you in situations where you can't handle everything perfectly so you have to figure out how to make the best of a bad situation, that's where the fun comes from.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning
This is literal babby mode.
>3H introduced an enemy target indicator which showed which character the enemy would target with the current unit positioning. This was an integral part of the strategy in 3H and you'd use it while setting up your units each turn to help move forward while protecting the weaker units and effectively baiting enemy units
Let me rephrase that for you buddy
3H introduced an obsolete line of sight for enemies that removed literally all planning or thought required by players, because 3H was aimed at toddlers that need everything spoon-fed to them and can't just look at movement range+positioning and come up with a turn strategy of their own.
A line of sight, that did absolutely NOTHING btw, because the moment the enemy turn started and one single enemy moved, the others focus changed anyway.
It was not only a moronic normie crutch Inna game that has a strategy layer as shallow as a troonys undilated pussy, but also a completely obsolete mechanic on its own for everyone who's played FE before, and one that didn't even work.
It's removal is 110% a positive thing, and the fact that you cry about it shows that you literally can't even come up with a single turn strategy on your own.
Your entire shitpost shows how far this franchise has fallen that people now defend mechanics everyone wanted removed.
I'm laughing at you, not with you. And I'm not in this thread.
>3H introduced an obsolete line of sight for enemies that removed literally all planning or thought required by players, because 3H was aimed at toddlers that need everything spoon-fed to them and can't just look at movement range+positioning and come up with a turn strategy of their own.
>A line of sight, that did absolutely NOTHING btw, because the moment the enemy turn started and one single enemy moved, the others focus changed anyway.
Nice contradiction, homosexual. It either removes all thought required or it's unpredictable as soon as the first enemy moves, which is it?
>entire post is "hurr your bad at video games because you liked a game element I didn't"
Good discussion.
should i play this or radiant dawn? i already played
>path of radiance
>echoes
>awakening
>fates
>3h
liked path of radiance/echoes/3h hated awakening and fates
Youre going to hate radiant dawn and engage
Just skip them both my dude
Did IntSys ever talk about why they gutted support conversations in RD?
I wish they'd go back to that instead of the waste of time that the current system is. Although I guess I can just skip them to get a similar experience.
Radiant Dawn is gigakino
do you guys prefer female mc or male mc for this one? im not sure if i like the design tbh
I can't get over how much better their evening suits look than the usual outfits.
>hilda's siscon brother joins you after you send him her head, Lysithea joins edelgard despite her working for people who ruined her life
>Goddess of Law who only cares about law, order and rules with zero emotions because she doesn't have any, becomes emotional and breaks her own rules while deciding to not consult with yumi before judging world
>tellius and 3H have god tier writing, how can awakening and others games even compete
Sometimes I just don't understand this place
Don't forget petra siding with edelgard too despite having NO fricking reason to at all.
it was unfinished
Not the first time you see this effect.
It's when people make a game their whole identity so when new_game comes out they try their hardest to find something negative and go on nonsensical hyperboles that arent even real.
Whenever you see something like a review bomb out of spite like Engage is getting its a sign of a moronic fanbase.
The same shit happened when FromSoft did Sekiro instead of a DS/Bloodborne or with Zelda 3D vs Zelda 2D
You actually play Engage and you realize how full of shit those people are
All fanbases are moronic
and 3H have god tier writing
No one's saying that, though. Stop being moronic. Saying that Engage's writing is worse isn't saying that 3H is one of the best video game scripts ever written.
who to put deidre on
surprisingly pulled it within 20 pulls
was thinking to put it on jean or framme for chain guard shenanigans but i don’t really see if its used often
Anyone notice the continent was really well designed? Truly a donut-shaped paradise after mine own heart.
I agree, each regions had distinct identities and then 5th one was a nice bonus, felt like this game wasn't rushed.
>dude 3H has GOOD writing teehee
>dude lets start a war because UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..... BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE OKAY!?!??!?!
What great writing
>FE Fates
>dude ummmmmmmmmmmm instead of killing the evil overload LETS HAVE HIM SIT ON A CHAIR
>FE Echoes
>OMG IS THAT MY LONG LOST LOVE I HAVE PINNED FOR THE ENTIRE GAME? lets not talk LMAO
Anons thinks only ONE of these stories is bad. Just go ahead and let that sink in.
It's hilarious to see FE babbies squabble over which plot is worse, when all FE plots are tripe written for a third grade reading level.
People play post-gamecube FE games for the plot?
People have to fool themselves 3H had a good plot since they know everything else is shit.
Then you remember its entire plot makes 0 sense and it doesnt even have memorable villains unlike Engage.
>it doesnt even have memorable villains unlike Engage.
But Edelgard is the most memorable villain in the series?
Edelgard is not a villain
The villain rep for 3h in Engage during the final boss is Nemesis, take of that what you will.
A character most people who pretend to have played 3H dont even know exists
Micaiah’s ring really good for farming exp
aoe heals for a lot of exp
map wide ultimate heal for a whole levels worth of exp
Man, they kinda got me with the fanservice. Had a dumb smile on my face when they summoned Ike from his ring.
>Lumera manipulated the people of the world and defeated the heroic god Sombron
For fricks sake let me use more than 8 units.
ALERT: Anna is a fricking trap unit. Her stats as a berserker are a complete fricking meme compared to axe girl in CH13. What a waste of time all that favoritism was.
But if you raise Anna you can have two cute axe girls
You make her a mage instead of trying to make her compete with the best.
Doesn't she have ridiculous growth rates for a magic class? Like 50/50/50 base growth rates in MAG/DEX/SPD before even any class adjustments. Just reclass her I guess.
Yes
I reclassed her into the magic class with the horse and axes and gave her canto and she immediately started wrecking shit
What part of this doesn't seem like a great unit? I'd use her even if she was shit cause she's cute.
Difficulty?
Hard
The part where you didn't reclass her. Here's her as a mage. Still awaiting a promotion.
Should I just switch to normal for my first playthrough?
It honestly feels like stat growths on almost every unit are fricked, while my knight is getting his ass handed to him by simple brigands.
Should Anna just be benched?
Going by the thread her berserker stats aren't good but I want to keep her
Any success with any reclassing for her?
Yes, you lack swordfighters until you finish second kingdom
Do you even need more than 2 sword users?
Alear, Diamante and Kagetsu are all god mode. Anna cannot compete with that.
Frick are her numbers that bad?
Yes
Alright, with a saddened heart I'm benching Anna, gonna level up the yurigay instead.
I think I've made a mistake jumping straight to maddening lol, I kinda assumed I'd still have to ability to grind to a certain degree since the game has a bunch of systems built around farming stuff, like the gachashit.
No, unfortunately right now arena is your best bet to level someone who fell behind
Also don't forget to eat, even +2 res can make situation better
>arena is your best bet to level someone
Hiya Papaya!
CH17 is filtering me on hard. The autistic Mage/Knight/Equine clown tanks literally everything.
Puffy
Seadall is so cute I want him to dance for me so bad
male dancer yuck
permanent benchwarmer
More boy tummy for me
You’re not restarting or using time travel to save your units are you? You’re not that bad at the game right?
i can fix her
Someone please photoshop the cringe makeup and tatoo away.
There's nothing to fix, she's a good girl
>15% str
>50% mag
>make her a berserker
FOR WHAT REASON?
It's funny.
we purposefully trained her wrong, as a joke
The Fell Dragon is a great magician, your clothes are RED
Fire Emblem: Kung Pow edition when?!
STR doesn't matter when your main role is to be throwing axes for guaranteed damage.
The Sage outfit is 10/10. Love that they gave them that full body cloak that GBA Sages had.
Citrine looks fricking sexy as a Sage.
>it's over
I've come to kill this thread with a tier list
>hes not doing the side-quests
>already the shota healer
oh no no no
Jean wasn't on the tier list for some reason but he would be "Boring" tier
>The shitty knife guy up the top
>Louis not up the top
Not even worth reading past that
does jean skill and starsphere from tiki also affect build ? could use a bit on a few units
so is there a Claude here?
>Give Yunaka Corrin ring
>Enemies have 0% chance to hit meanwhile she crits for days