It gives a small damage bonus that ignores defense and a small decrease in damage taken, or a small heal on hit and more damage dealt. Either way it's a small damage up and defense up so it's best on someone who will double and get the fixed damage boost twice.
it's unironically dogshit, when I do my 2nd Maddening playthrough where I actually use DLC, that's the first Emblem I'm dropping for Tiki.
Leif is also kinda mediocre although it gives a lot of build which can be nice for the super heavy weapons.
>The plot, the characters are juvenile, the difficulty has decreased, the main character is weak, heavy armour + Sigurd = invincible Ferrari. Fire Emblem has gone farther and farther down the road of secondary otaku. When you think about it, many works are actually like this, such as the recent Mercury Witch, the juvenilization of Gundam is even more powerful than the Fire Emblem, we can only say that times have changed, we can no longer understand the young Japanese nowadays
>the difficulty has decreased
yeah no I constantly feel like the chapter I'm playing will finally end my run on maddening
never felt that way with any other FE game ever
given I'm playing with etie/framme/lapis/chloe/alfred and similar low tier units but still
>the difficulty has decreased
You can tell this nip played on normal
I'm playing on maddening and it's definitely easier than 3H. Even the "hard maps" anons told me I would get fricked like chapter 10, 11, 13, 19 and Tiki's paralogue were not that hard compared to 3H.
Half the map before timeskip have units who can one shot you with double attacks, every archer have poison so stacking def is ok at best. And this goes on after the timeskip where you fight flyers with 8 movements who double attack and have more atk than all of your units
Meanwhile in Engage, a few maps in I can have a dodge tank who can 0% hit every unit, Louis can tank everything in sight. In the later maps? Even easier, you have access to freeze staff to control enemies, you can basically choose to one shot any unit in the map with engage skill.
In 3H, it takes time for your units to get good, and the game only get slightly easier in the later maps.
Engage make you start with completely broken specialized units and it keeps on giving you more tools to deal with any situation. You also start with 10 save scum in Engage compared to I think 3 or 4 in 3H
Anyone who say 3H was easier than Engage is braindead. Maddening Engage is balanced, Maddening 3H was bullshit
1 year ago
Anonymous
>uses rewind
nothing you say matters
1 year ago
Anonymous
>average Elden Ring gatekeeper
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you use rewind you are simply playing a different game so your opinion is irrelevant, good day
1 year ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession
1 year ago
Anonymous
never had an issue with 3H maddening since arts are broken, you never care for counter attacks and you can just alpha strike everything all the time
>it's definitely easier than 3H
I wouldn't go that far. Granted, I looked up class and recruitment requirements for 3H while I went into Engage completely blind (both on Maddening), but it's at least harder than 3H on the whole. 3H had bigger difficulty spikes with 2 and 13, but those are because you're locked out of using the mechanics that trivialize the rest of the game. Engage has a more consistent difficulty since the game-breaking builds are at least limited to individual characters and not every fricking unit. In both, though, doing paralogues early is the only way to approach the experience of the old Lunatic modes and doing that overlevels you enough to remove any difficulty from the following chapters.
If the devs put it in the game on day 1, the game was balanced around it being there. He's just playing a less incomplete version of the game than you are because you're too stupid to pirate israelite shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
COPE, you are playing with P2W enabled lmao. You didn't beat the game.
based normal mode enjoyer
i agree with some of his points but not all
"main character being weak" - funny bc people have complaining about overpowered self insert MyUnits since Awakening. but maybe that is more of a western complaint. Alear isn't even that bad, he's ok at worst, decent at best, definitely no Roy/Lyn tier and still pretty usable.
>heavy armour + Sigurd = invincible Ferrari
maybe on normal, and to some extent hard, but on maddening and lategame hard louis (or generals in general) defense starts to get outscaled and he can certainly die to phys, on top of that the game mixes in magic units and magic weapons with pretty much every pack, way more than the older games, which absolutely destroys heavy armor units. there are certainly some op things you can do in this game, but louis/sigurd is on the lower end of them... surprised he is not complaining about ike or lyn clone stalling or aoe multiwarp+multidance things instead. whole point of engage's design though is to give you op tools and power creep the enemy design to keep up.
>point of engage's design though is to give you op tools and power creep the enemy design to keep up
You might be right. I just did the incest ring chapter and the fricking drakes are all but immune to anything that isn't engage attacks, like they exist just to force you to use them up before you get to the bosses. Not that it even mattered since I sent Anna and Pannette down south and they completely raped the bosses before anyone else could get there. That's the problem with balancing around supermove bullshit, you either force their use and remove the ability to use them tactically or you let the player turn any given challenge into a complete joke.
>the difficulty has decreased
You can tell this nip played on normal
Do you seriously not recognize chinese, japanese and korean? I can't read anything but I can absolutely recognize the alphabets. You guys are not morons are you?
Kanji is used in both Japan and China. The Japanese also use Katakana and Hiragana. There’s simplified Chinese for the rubes also and Korean has a simplified alphabet that no longer uses Kanji but it has a moron written structure. The person you’re replying to is a moron
Three of the character names that are in the DLC are clearly based on Zephia, Griss and Marni.
There are actually some voice lines for Selestia (the one based on Zephia/Sepia) in the game's data and in both Eng and JP she has the same VA as Zephia and one of the audio clips even has her talking about family.
>hold out doesn't stop you from getting one shotted by an engage attack
how am i suppose to deal with these other than sending a general? it seems to always be 100% accuracy so I can't use any evasion units.
put a lyn afterimage as the only target in range, or agro the boss with lyn's engage attack and kill them before they get a turn
Even without a general Ike's engage mode making you take half damage should be able to tank a hit
I just did Lief's Paralogue and his skill would have oneshot any of my units.
I used Corrin and a freeze staff to keep him from ever being able to hit anyone with it.
Obviously, although i'm not sure where Aversa falls on the ol' Sistometer, is it really fricking your sister if she's both NBR and someone you never knew before recently? Sadly Awakening fans may have to just settle for the fact that Owain can marry Lucina. If Robin wants to marry someone with dragonblood like him he can just marry Nowi.
That’s literally what the support is about. She fricks with you calling you big brother in baby talk despite being older and after you tell her to frick off she apologizes and tells you she wants your cum
I want to like Hortensia. I want to like Yunaka. I want to like Panette. But their designs fill me with hatred and every time they do those fricking vtuber look at me I'm so cute and quirky animations I want to reach through the screen and strangle them. Why could they not just give them normal designs?
>Doing standard raid on MUH FREEDUMBs palace >the idiots just let us walk in, gonna have some good times with all their treasure and delicious brown palace women >This stitch-faced freak just warps into the middle of my squad with nothing but a hand axe >Screams GREAT AETHER >too far away to attack her, but everyone else i in my squad all attacks her at once >What the hell was that!? they're all dead! she didn't even wait until her turn, they all died on counterattack the Great Aether didn't even hit anyone. All my friends are dead and i'm hiding in a treasure chest hoping nobody comes in here.
Elusiabros what the frick you said this would be an easy win, nobody told me about this Suiseiseki sounding psycho showing up!
Oh really? i had lucina on her in my actual run just figured she'd be nuts with ike. She's an absolute beast though, i have a dodge forged Hand axe with terrible might and she still kills with it like it's a Forged silver axe or something.
>just figured she'd be nuts with ike
She is. I threw her forward with a poleaxe on Lyn's paralogue and like eight bow knights couldn't even take off half her health before she killed everyone without the good sense to be using a longbow in one attack. That's when I learned that the exp counter will keep going up even though the bar stops filling after the first 100. And that's on maddening de gozaimasu tbh wa.
Also, isn't it a waste to put Lucina on a backup unit? Her best trait is enabling other types to do chain attacks.
I like it because it makes Lucina's Engage attack actually good for a change. Every ally within 2 spaces joining for a chain attack is okay, but getting every ally within 3 is quite a bit different.
Is that what it meant by range +1? I thought it was activation range; that makes it way better. I've been using her on alear for the extra hit chance it gives bonded shield and all for one, as well as all for one being a fitting attack for the main character
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, i haven't done it yet but it should be possible to get a full 12 man gang-bang on the boss with a Backup powered Lucina All for One, which would almost be a guaranteed kill
>Alear offers to leave some soldiers to help defend Solm castle
I was shocked when she said "i can leave some soldiers hear to help you if you need it", at first i was like "what soldiers", then i realized i have like 15 benched units i could totally leave to help her out without missing any of them.
Come on, anon, it's not that bad. There are at least 10 I can name off the top of my head:
Marth
Sigurd
Leif
Marth (female)
Celica
Eirika
Lyn
Ike
Tiki
Anna
Noticed something interesting.
In Three Houses on hard mode I used to be able to send Byleth and whatever house leader I had to the front lines, while my crappier units moved in a huddled formation
However Engage does reinforcements right on your ass and behind your back
These reinforcements can sometimes 1 or 2 shot units that they only do 0 damage or low damage to Alear (if they can even touch him)
Had to get used to them flipping the script like that
Now Alear is my stopgap that wipes out enemies that spawn from behind
I can really only trust Yunaka to stay behind with Alear as support because she’s actually a decent unit that doesn’t have to be babysat as much
Still only early game, but I’m hoping to get more units like her
Good growths has 20 defense and 18 res currently
Ever since they went from dragon child to divine dragon class they have become a true shonen protagonist
Haven’t done Tiki yet actually
You do get another unit that's essentially identical to Yunaka, if that helps.
Does this series have any sort of aesthetic cohesion? Every time I see something from FE nowadays it looks like some random generic design you'd get from just googling "anime girl".
Absolutely not. It bounces from one extreme to another. You had the Jugdral era where everything was dark and moody and then you had the Elibe era immediately afterwards where everything was lighthearted and neon coloured like proto-Engage.
Yes. You're braindead if you think Jugdral and Engage have the same aesthetic.
I can't wait for the honeymoon period to be over so people stop being fricking morons about Engage and start looking at it objectively again. It's factually wrong to say that it has the same tone as Jugdral because it very clearly doesn't. The thing it's closest to are the bright colours of the GBA games. You have to be genuinely delusional or a complete secondary to deny that Fire Emblem games change their aesthetic style constantly.
Compared to the colourfulness of Engage and the Elibe games, yes, games like Jugdral and Tellius have a darker and moodier aesthetic. This isn't even arguing that one is better than the other but anybody who has played more than two of these games can notice that FE's artstyle and tone changes completely between entries.
And what "contemporary anime" is is a different style depending on the era it comes from, moron-kun, which is why nobody claims that anime from the 20s is identical to anime from the 90s.
>contemporary anime
Why do 3H and Engage look completely different then
1 year ago
Anonymous
because 3H was fujoshit. that's its own entirely separate can of worms.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you admit that FE doesn't follow "contemporary anime" or that at the very least "contemporary anime" is not one distinct artstyle but rather an umbrella term for a number of different aesthetic
1 year ago
Anonymous
Quit bylethposting anon. And i never claimed there was no variation to contemporary anime, i don't think there's a single artstyle that doesn't have a range within it. except maybe hard realism.
GBA games were bright and vibrate due to hardware limitations.The only reason the snes games were heckin grimdark was because those were the most popular colors for games set in medieval times. Same thing with the Wii games, which had a lower resolution/limited lighting engine which made most things on the console look washed out compared to both 3hs and Engage, even though 3hs has a much darker tone and aesthetic
>The only reason the snes games were heckin grimdark was because those were the most popular colors for games set in medieval times
Anon. Why are you chatting such utter bullshit. Chrono Trigger came out on SNES a year before FE4 and has a bright artstyle. Secret of Mana came out two years before that and also had a bright artstyle. The SNES was dominated by bright RPGs.
Anyone who had a SNES knows that you're chatting shit so I don't see why you're bothering to lie about this. Genealogy does not look anything like the dominant medieval fantasy RPGs of the SNES era.
1 year ago
Anonymous
homie those games have the same 90s anime artstyle as fe4. FE4 has neon-colored hair and bright designs like most of the rpgs on the console. By your logic mario rpg has a grimdark style because the color palette was much darker and bold on average then most snes rpgs. Compare FE4 to castlevania 4 and tell me that shit is anywhere close to what a dark aesthetic was on the snes
1 year ago
Anonymous
"it's less gothic than a franchise that is literally based on gothic tropes therefore it is not darker than average for the SNES era"
You are schizobabbling right now.
It being less dark that Castlevania 4, a fricking gothic-setting game with vampies and skeletons, does not mean it has the same aesthetic as Secret of Mana. You can have a dark aesthetic without going full dungeons and dragons.
You're doing the equivalent of saying "Skyrim looks like Kirby because it's not as dark as Bloodborne." It's a nonsensical argument.
I don't even understand what you're tying to achieve in this line of argument because you're demonstrably wrong to anybody with a pair of eyeballs.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The snes FEs do not have a dark style. It's on par with most other snes rpgs, and a farcry from ones that are actually deliberately designed to invoke dark themes. Fricking zelda has darker designs that take far more inspiration from grimdark tales then uwu colorful-haired anime girls in shortskirts. Get kagas dick out of your mouth
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh so you're actual argument is just "REEEEE I HATE KAGA HE NEVER DID ANYTHING"
You're either a moron or you're pretending to be one. Looks like it's the former.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>BRO THIS SHIT IS SO DARK
Literal headcanon. Awakening was darker then the snes games in terms of aesthetic
1 year ago
Anonymous
>bright characters in a dark area = dark game
Meanwhile most of the game is actually brightly coloured and looks like this.
Yep you really are a moron. Thanks for demonstrating that to the thread.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah because all of FE4 is trudging through darkness and not a slightly darker green than the norm. Those enemies in mario rpg have darker designs then any of FE4's characters who wear majority neon
1 year ago
Anonymous
>REEEEE I HATE KAGA
Every time you peel the layers back on an "Engage was a return to form" gay you find the same assmad Awakeningshitters who will eternally have to shit on the old games to defend the new ones being Frankenstein's monsters of recycled material from them
They think if they can pretend Kaga did nothing for the franchise then it will somehow make their own games not shit
1 year ago
Anonymous
Kaga's games are wack tho. This series only became good with the GBA titles.
Only a sliver of a chance IF it's a sequel/prequel to another game. If it's standalone, odds are it'll be unique until IS manages to truly tumble the well.
She's just really good at raising the more helpless units... really really good at it. she has a lot of experience with young children if you know what i mean.
>feeling smug since I'm breezing through maddening. >Suddenly chapter 24, Fuga's wild ride 2 electric boogaloo. >Took me an entire day to beat.
Frick this chapter. It's the only chapter I feel I beat through rng being in my favor and not because of any skill.
>get ballbusted by lyn and ike paralogues for two days >main story is now super easy
frick, did i do them too early? the recommended level was level 2 promoted. or did that actually mean level 22
I waited several chapters to do Lyn's because I was hoping I'd run into another magic emblem and be able to promote Framme to something decent before just giving up and benching her at level 19. It wasn't very difficult and only the reinforcements right next to Lyn got a chance to spawn. Ike's was fricking bullshit, but I could probably handle it a lot more easily now that I know not to play it like a defense map and let Ike get swallowed in the sea of reinforcements.
Also, keep in mind that the game levels are based on you getting to 20 in the base class even though that's not optimal for once, so level 2 promoted does want you to have 22 levels of growth, which will correlate to advanced class level 12 if you're playing optimally. The things spawn like five chapters before the main chapters get to that level.
It's weird how they have that deal with them when the skirmishes in this game are way harder than the normal missions are so trying to level a weak unit in skirmishes is utter suicide.
Why wouldn’t you do skirmishes when they pop up?
Extra combat
I find this game addicting so more times to engage (lol) with the combat is a plus
Can’t be arsed with everything else
1 year ago
Anonymous
its cheating simple as if I want more combat after im done ill play the game again
1 year ago
Anonymous
>its cheating
1 year ago
Anonymous
>its cheating
It kind of is cheating but it’s how I like to play any game with side content
I just like strolling in on these mustache twirling Saturday morning cartoon villains with my units that have become roided out because of paralogues and side battles and just swooping in to save the day while even my weakest units are rag dolling their units
It was pretty egregious in three houses
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's literally a game mechanic" Please, do tell us how it is cheating
1 year ago
Anonymous
Grinding in RPGs is always top cringe. It's only put in so brainlets can pretend they've finished the game.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The game is centered around skirmishes. You need to do them if you want more than one inherited skills and extra money.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The game is centered around skirmishes
absolutely false considering Maddening completely removes them and replaces them with Conquest style Invasion battles
1 year ago
Anonymous
Completely true, because Maddening is not the default game difficulty and skirmishes are still present in hard mode. Three Houses and Engage Maddening mode are just the no fun allowed modes that are shit compared to Awakening and Fates Lunatic mods.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Three Houses and Engage Maddening mode are just the no fun allowed modes that are shit compared to Awakening and Fates Lunatic mods. >Shit compared to Awakening lunatic mode.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Engage maddening is far more fun and balanced than Awakening lunatic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're thinking of lunatic+, which is utter bullshit. Normal lunatic is fine and a better challenge than Engage as long as you don't abuse second seals on Robin like a casual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Frederick Emblem >"fine"
1 year ago
Anonymous
>forcing you to use the best tools at your disposal >bad
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Maddening is not the default game difficulty
Playing this FE i kind of feel like it is. The main story is properly balanced it's insane to believe this is the same company that made 3H/Echoes/Fates/Awakening/SD/RD/PoR/SS
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh, so you're not playing Maddening and just pretending to be le super 1337 gaymer, that makes more sense. They're rare, but they do still show up and give more than 1xp per kill.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They're not rare moron, they're literally fixed battles like Conquest which I'm assuming you haven't even played.
1 year ago
Anonymous
???
He's exactly spot on the frick are you talking about?
Are they still like that on easy and easier mode? I just assumed it was like Awakening where they made the skirmishes way harder to discourage people from using them to grind on the hardest difficulty. Lunatic skirmishes in that game were nearly impossible until you got Robin through a couple promotions.
>Get enough SP for maybe 1 top-tier skill per character over the entire game without grinding
For frick's sake each unit only has two slots, why did they have to be so stingy with SP on top of that?
Is it just me or is this game fricked up regarding its character balance? Unlike previous games I can’t seem to stay with one character because later another one shows up that completely outclasses it even after training, right now only Louie and Chloe have stayed with me, Etie got replaced by the Alcryst who had better stats so I used him, then the desert prince comes who has better stats than him AND has a mount, another case was the sword fighter with pink hair who becomes outclasses when the Red prince showed up. There’s more examples but this is weird.
>Is it just me or is this game fricked up regarding its character balance?
Yes, it has Revelation-tier unit balance. We're still in the honeymoon period right now though so that criticism will be ignored. Wait 6 months and the consensus will have changed.
Unit balance is largely super overrated by the fanbase anyway. This game lets you make anyone you like good with enough investment which is all that really matters.
Tell me how because without grinding for skirmishes for Ring abilities/exp I don’t see how my Alcryst who I trained to level 17 can become as good as the Solm prince who has better stats and only needs two levels to max cap and he can’t promote for MORE stats. I salute people that used Etie all the way.
Genuinely curious, how? I already saw that her main issue seems to be speed and when Alcryst shows up he has like 5 or so more speed than her. She hits hard yeah but what else does she have?
The +2 to attack he gets when someone gets nearby? I don’t see how that makes him better, sure it’s +2 damage but on higher difficulties it doesn’t mean much since the enemies seem to be really bulky so it’s preferable to break and then gang up, I don’t know the class skill, does Sniper have double lion or something?
1 year ago
Anonymous
he doesn't go into sniper, he has his own unique class with luna. Fogado has his own unique bow knight with a worse version of PoR counter, aka basically nothing
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fogado was such a dumb unit to put Counter on. what were they thinking
1 year ago
Anonymous
you give him lief so he doesn't get attacked without being able to counter? honestly I have no idea. Alfred has pavise but as far as I know there isn't anyone with aegis so that should have given fogado that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's +3 Str when an ally within 2 squares gets hit. that should proc almost all the time especially against bosses and a perpetual +3 Str on top of his already higher Str than Fogado means yes, he's always going to be hitting way harder, and that's before Luna procs and adds like 15 damage to his attack.
Alcryst has a better class and personal ability while Fogado's personal ability is dogshit and his Class skill is just kind of bad.
Alcryst gets covert bonuses too which are much more useful on average than cav's +1 movement.
Being mounted isn't really much of a benefit in this game either because the difference in movement is only +1, there's no inherent canto, and the SIgurd ring can make anybody have super cav movement.
In fact I think the meta shit now is making all archers warriors because backup utility is just far stronger.
They didn't even do anything to balance horse units this time since canter is now an emblem skill instead of a cavalry trait and cavalry and infantry both have the same movement penalties on terrain, including cavalry not having any problems in the desert this time.
>Use Lapis from the first turn I have access >Just a few chapters later get Kagetsu, who is already promoted, has better stats, has almost strictly better growths, and comes with more SP than Lapis earned in the time I used her
Shit's weird.
An argument can be made for a lot of units based on their class type. Covert units have better options with emblem rings in general plus their own avoid bonuses, while cavalry that joins mid-game has nothing going for them but raw movement until you get Sigurd back later and can start inheriting canter again. I genuinely don't believe Fogado is a straight upgrade from Alcryst.
Etie can also easily move into Warrior for longbow backup memes, but it's not really a gamechanger, much less worth a spot on your team.
Lapis is a laughing stock unfortunately.
The deployment slots are so low you can't really afford to play favorites in Maddening. I thought I was going to use Diamant and even promoted him but I then get Kagetsu who already mogs Diamant and I don't have room to deploy both.
Even messing around with Citrine, Clanne, and mage Anna I ended up ditching all of them for Pandero because his bases are decent enough while having actual non single digit defenses.
The only good early game unit is Chloe and that is only if you feed her the energy drop you get in Jean's paralogue.
>Rereading archived Ganker threads from 2019 >Everyone shitting on Fates and saying 3H is the best game in the franchise
>Reading Ganker threads from 2023 >Everyone shitting on 3H and saying Engage is the best game in the franchise
I swear the nuFE fanbase are the biggest braindead consoomers outside of Pokemon, they just like whatever's new and hate whatever came before it because it's not the new product
I have seen plenty in these threads calling Engage a "return to form" because it's more like awakening instead of 3H.
Jesus I still remember how ass mad Awakening made the "fans" of the series because it wasn't Fire Emblem or whatever.
Randomly got Soren's S ring while doing the obligatory 10 summon on Ike's ring that i did for every new emblem ring i got. Is this actually worth trying to build around? Even a forged Wind has pretty mediocre might, to the point where i'm not even sure i'd want to use it if this had an 100% proc rate instead of it's Dex% proc rate.
I don't want to promote because almost everyones outfit is worse on their "canon" promoted class, why didn't they include the battle outfit thing from 3h for this?
I dunno his 23 defense as a great knight is pretty helpful right now, although I’m playing hard chapter 14, I guess he sucks more in Maddening since you’d prefer killing than defending the strong as frick enemies.
I'm on maddening and I benched him at level 8 because armor knights always fall off later, but ended up having him fill in on the Solm palace level because his core stats were as good as the shitskin princess' even though she was 10 levels higher. He's back on the bench now, but he'd probably be fine if I made him a great knight.
Because he can’t be stat screwed in maddening Louis just keeps getting what he needs to stay relevant. Give him a silver greatlance and his damage is enough to one shot weaker enemies and bring stronger ones down low enough to be picked off by everyone else. His low movement can become an issue but he’s around long enough to build the sp to inherit canter before chapter 10, letting him keep up with other units. If you give him Ike he will be invincible to physical attacks outside of the occasional greataxe enemy.
>stacking defense on Jade >give her a steel greataxe with Ike's emblem >1 shots every flier while taking 0 dmg
Fun stuff, she even has half decent Res with her skill and Ike's axe
You don't keep skills between classes. Level to 20 and use a second seal to come back to 1 or try a different class if the unit needs to be in a different role
>or should you just swap between them as you learn the skills
No. You didn't keep the class skill when you change to another class. For every step forward Engage makes in gameplay mechanics it takes one step back and this shit is one of them
>The game isn't bogged down by Conquest skill autism >this is somehow a bad thing
Class skills are underpowered on average, but being locked to the class that gives them is fine, it makes classes actually distinct.
I got about 40000 when I collected for the first time after chapter 19.
fricking hell I just booted up and found 22000 frags waiting for me.
I gues those S rank ring melds now sort of make sense.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you're really israeli about it you can also savescum till you get an S ring
1 year ago
Anonymous
I knew that much, I just thought the legitimate method for merging rings to S rank was outrageously expensive compared to the amount of bond frags you have, but it seems I was simply moronic for fifteen chapters
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s still pretty expensive. If you want to reasonably use the level 20 bond effects on your army for the last few chapters you’ll need to raise the bond level in the arena for a few thousand fragments. Most of the better skills are also behind a bond level greater than 10, and the amount of engrave slots (if you care about that) for emblem weapons improves as more people get a higher bond rating with that emblem.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I can get three or four bond levels per chapter most of the time. Maybe you're not using bond skills and engage enough.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You should never meld rings btw
1 year ago
Anonymous
I got about 40000 when I collected for the first time after chapter 19.
Is Liberation worth keeping on Alear, or should I ditch it for something else? Chapter 17 and I feel like his build stat is being put to waste on such a light and weak weapon.
Dodge build on Liberation sounds like trash. The only benefit of having Liberation is the engage meter charge, which sucks on a dodge build since it only procs on player phase, not enemy phase. Why not just use silver sword+5 and engrave that?
Slap that Ike engrave on it then. You won't, pussy.
lol, Ike engrave does seem better for it if I want to stack strength and go for one-shots to charge the engage meter.
Hero's are so good but their design is so fricking trash. Hate seeing my Alear running around with that weird floating necklace cape and shitty buckler.
Does hit get rolled before crit. Have had Panette miss so many 100 percent crits that I'm debating switching from Corrins engraving to something that gives more hit.
how do you expect to crit if you don't even crit?
Supports are a good source of hit. Byleth on a cav unit is good too since they give a whole +10 dex on instruct.
She was introduced in the first Fire Emblem game to ever get advertised stateside. She could've replaced Marth completely over here and no one would've cared at all.
I get that they chose an easy map to ease you in to Emblem Paralogues, but something like Awakening 6 would have been kino
Might've actually given Lucina an opportunity to use All for One too
No, that'd be Ch. 1 (the burning forest) but she did help with the defense as an NPC
I mostly wanted it because it's one of my favorite maps from Awakening
I mean where she actually introduced herself (as Marth). Chapter 1 shows her falling out of the sky and killing a Risen but i don't think she gave a name to chrom then.
Though seriously that's one of the more memorable maps from that game for me just because of how Lunatic forces you to work with nothing but unit positioning when you're still outclassed by every enemy. They're also clearly going for important story maps over the most well-designed ones. I was laughing at how the Byleth one keeps the moron AI who just totally ignore you while you bash their skulls in.
>On mid game >Most of my characters have 500-1000 sp so check out some skills >Most of them only get the +2 to str, dex, spd, etc >The good ones take 1000 sp and the better version of those take fricking 3000
Wtf are you supposed to hoard exp until you get the 3000 until the end of the game or grind? How do people even get skills in Maddening if there is no grinding?
Two of the DLC Emblems are going to have cheap skills to make money and SP grinding ez and they're going to make the pass sell like crazy.
Screencap this post.
The pre chapter 10 units (aside from Jade because she’s fricking stupid and didn’t start with a ring) have a good chance to reach 1000 sp before you lose the rings if you plan on using them, while everyone after chapter 10 starts with at least 1000 sp. You do have to plan on which skills you want to inherit, though I’ve noticed that the units I consistently used always had around the same sp as a unit who just joined. The ridiculous coating skills are either meant for the emblem user only or something you have to save up for as your unit’s main skill.
Byleth Mentorship, Corrin's quality time, Lucina's Dual Assist, and Lyn 's speed +3 are generally good
stat bonuses stack so if you learn Def+3 and then equip the Ike ring you get a whooping +6 def.
I just got through the chapter where you fight her and the sage guy for the last time, and I'm amazed at how stupid their characters are. >dragon mage lady is sad that the big bad dragon never wanted to give her a baby >she's dying along with masochist sage guy >she realizes that she could've just flopped over to alear's team, dragged sage guy with her, and made a baby with him instead >the real villain is japan's declining birth rate
>>she realizes that she could've just flopped over to alear's team, dragged sage guy with her, and made a baby with him instead
Yeah, you misread that. She realized the children she wanted was with the four hounds all along. She literally says "What i wanted was in front of me the whole time."
Sombron was a safer pick then trying to romance alear at that point. The whole idea was that she thought she having a child with bloodties would give her a family but she already had a family in the hounds
Corrin on a mage is a free instant 10-tile chokepoint every single turn. Lucina on any unit that can attack 2-3 tiles away to make the most out of dual assist.
Corrin on Veyle is the best play. She gets access to all the dragon veins, fire pillar, fog, water, ice, etc. It makes her one of the best utility units in the game.
I had Lucina on Alear for the longest time since Alear can A support anyone and Lucina boosts avo based on adjacent units with high support.
There is also an argument for using her on a flier or other high mov unit since they would chain attack from really far away
>boss has a bunch of strong guards that would make fighting him difficult >charges out alone into the middle of your group so you can gangbang him without a care in the world
Moving bosses was a mistake.
Just did Ch8, should I give Anna the master seal and second her to Sage or have her slum around as a mage and give the master to someone else. I feel like abusing Micaiah's bullshit for exp should be enough to get her well past lv 5 before the ring cuckening happens
Lunatic awakening is only hard in the first few chapters and the very last two
I beat it by turning Donnel and Robin into gods and slaughtering everything
Lunatic conquest is the fairest "hard" FE game imo
>Lunatic conquest is the fairest "hard" FE game imo
Haven't finished Engage Maddening yet, upto Ch22 but so far it's felt even better than Conquest but maybe that's because time crystal prevents it from getting too annoying and you don't have to risk units over an 92% attack missing.
Am I the only one who likes the addition of the turnwheel? I just rewound a turn because an enemy hit me with a 37% hit and a 9% crit.
In addition, the turnwheel enables me to try risky moves if I wish to do things like funnel xp on to units like Anna.
I like the turnwheel mechanic too and glad that it looks to be staying. This shit would have been a god send in Conquest lunatic
1 year ago
Anonymous
>This shit would have been a god send in Conquest lunatic
Tell me about it. Almost dropped Conquest when I'd nearly finished Hinoka's map (Kazama and Hinoka were the only units left) and attacked Kazama with Corrin.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You could have used an example of the map spawning in fliers with 12 move and instead you used one of you being a complacent idiot.
I like it so that when I'm a moron and stand in a second enemy's range that I didn't see or attack in the wrong order or with the wrong weapon I can go back, or for map gimmicks like dropping reinforcements on my back line
I don't use it for accuracy/crit correction.
You just explained why i don't like it.
I absolutely love it for moments like "whoops, didn't mean to end turn standing in that spot, that gets in the way, let's just turn wheel back a sec" But using it to cheese RNG like "that was a shit level up, redo" or "bullshit that that 40% attack actually hit me" just doesn't sit right with me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you can't rng abuse level ups
1 year ago
Anonymous
Depending on the situation you can. If it's near the end of a map it's easy enough to bench the unit from the boss fight so that their level ups change when they get to the arena in Somniel, of course that all only matters on Hard or lower. Lunatic having fixed mode was such a nice decision for this game.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It was an awful decision. Random level up was one of the things that set FE apart.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You have two options then anon, you can suck it up and play one run with fixed and then it'll unlock random for you, or you can play on journalism mode.
1 year ago
Anonymous
not him but i just got back from enduring a naked x run on mmx6 nightmare difficulty, i want to wind down at least a little so please no bully for playing anything bellow fixed lunatic
1 year ago
Anonymous
If I'd known about it ahead of time, I'd have just waited for mods to fix it. It's my own fault for playing a modern game on release, but I really never expected them to silently force a mechanic that had only ever had as a weird post-game gimmick in one game before abandoning it forever.
I would prefer a game that is balanced around letting units die instead of expecting you to reset every time, but since that's never going to happen after 11 they might as well make it convenient to undo the bullshit surprises. I still don't like that encourages the kind of things you're using it for, though. If you can't even roll with taking a hit or not being able to get optimal xp distribution then you shouldn't be playing probability-based combat games.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh snap it's the ironman autist, i had a question for you. Do you delete your file if your lord dies?
Lunatic Awakening is only difficult in the first 5 maps. You can still beat it with Nosferatu and other bullshit the game had. Lunatic +, on the other hand, was pure cancer.
>Beat Celicas map in 5 turns becaue she warp ragnaroked a clone in the middle of my units.
Kek. With the way you're told to take out the summoners asap I wasn't expecting her too move until they were taken out.
It's obvious that Engage is going to get a new Game +. Getting points to unlock emblem skills is slow, getting orbs to level up Emblem weapons is slow, the whole region leveling system etc.
Corm is an easy S tier for being able to root bosses and her synergy with covert classes, Ike and sigurd are both easy S tiers, Lyn is more of an A tier, Leif is better than the worst just due to having a nuke you can pull out to kill one unit now and due to the versatility he gives to a unit. Leif can basically make one of your units unbreakable, Lucina belongs in A tier just due to her ability to negate damage.
I have absolutely no clue what priorities or usage you're getting out of these that you even tiered them like this.
This is Lapis. She was supposed to be a swordsmaster, but the guy already promoted as swordsmaster is way better than her at that job. People memed her channeling her inner Meg as a Sword General. But in truth, she would be better as a Wyvern or Griffin Knight. Say something nice about her.
it is honestly fricking silly, but I'm not gonna complain too much. Kagetsu is the swordmaster type character I have wanted since playing blazing blade all those years ago. Its like getting fe6 karel halfway through the game instead of at the end.
No idea what the frick they were thinking with kagetsu. Dude is fricking untouchable, and even when he does get hit he isn't taking much damage.
She doesn't even have better growths than him lol
Lapis had a rough life, she gets replaced THE CHAPTER after she joins by a guy who is just her but better, and then HE GETS REPLACED 2 chapters later, and if you think "Oh i'll at least make Diamant use axes so he won't be useless" HE GETS OUTCLASSED AT THAT by Panette who joins like two chapters after Kagetsu.
Lapis is like someone who entered a 16 man tournament and got... 16th. the guy she lost to, lost to another guy that himself lost in the third round to someone who didn't win the whole thing.
She's Aoki from Hajime no Ippo, right down to being the cutest named character.
I used her as she was the first sword fighter that appeared, I gave her the forged Folkvangr with the Marth engraving and she worked out really well as a dodge tank.
>unironically using seethe in current year >calling anyone else a troony
the only other people who say seethe are ESLs, pajeets, SEAmonkeys, and trannies
I just made kagetsu a bow knight and she became my dedicated swordie dodge tank to choke with jade.
Kagetsu as bow knight is way better and will carry your maddening runs anyways.
I'm on like chapter 15 and i still have 3 energy drops, 2 seraph robes, a secret book, a dracoshield, 2 talismans, and some boots that i haven't used yet because i always sit on stat boosters way too long. Give all of those to Lapis and i'm sure she'll be plenty usable no matter what.
I'm just using all the cute girls and it's still not that hard. I'm pretty sure a planned run with high-tier units would be a cakewalk. This isn't like 12 where only only the best are usable.
I genuinely don't use anything other than heals until the last couple chapters out of habit. Even though you can buy them openly and they probably make the game piss easy, I'm too conditioned by the games where you have to save up rescues for endgame strats to work. That's just autism though, the gift stat-boosters are the only legitimate "you didn't beat it" to me.
I haven't played that map yet, but i guarantee there's a staff you could use to get those chests that you aren't thinking of. Freeze and Obstuct can buy you more time if you need to delay the thief or just block Eirika for a turn. Warp is the most obvious way to speed up getting somewhere so that should go without saying.
i can handle erika just fine, it's the chest im having problem with, it's on both side and 4 grifins and 4 wyvern just wienerblocks the warp rescue units
in the end i just stayed out of erika agro, left 1 thief alive, let him loot both chest then snipe with panete+lyn astra
that sounds pretty good actually, Chloe's one of my best units but being a flier is a liability as often as it is useful, i'd miss swords a little bit, but not a whole lot and with her blue hair i can pretend she's cosplaying Nephenee.
Is Eiria's twincest strike the only efficient way to deal with the corrupted lizard things or is it just maddening being silly? I need to stack a bunch of buffs to do some chip damage instead of 2x0 to them.
Dealing with them revolves completely around getting Alear around them and to the synchro boost field so he can use the siscon attack again.
The second good news is that they don't have maddening ai so you can park your dodge tank on a heal tile and watch them dodge everything and counter then die to mages and chain attacks
it's not but the drop rates are genuinely terrible. You need like 25 orbs to get a +1 or something if I remember correctly. I did one and I only got 3 orbs of different stats.
It's the best way of dealing with them early. Their defense doesn't scale at all basically though so you'll be one shotting them with any strong unit later.
Hm, this dragon sure is a fat tub of frick, taking care of it will require careful positioning
or maybe >*throws Pannette at it, who one-shots with a crit*
Why does break wand have such shit accuracy?
It's extremely situational, you can achieve break by many other means and you also pay the opportunity cost of wand user not doing anything else.
Staff accuracy is determined by your MAG vs their RES from what I remember. Staff Mastery also gives +15 hit I think. Hortensia is actually pretty bad at landing statuses because of her shit MAG. Give them to Citrinne or Ivy.
she's a support character overall so it makes sense to give it to her. Even her personal skill and class skill are staff focused, and her class is only B tomes and S staves. Res isn't that great of an instruct bonus though since mages aren't super common compared to physical.
I moved byleth off of her to merrin for the dex buff but since she's one of my stronger units I was thinking of finding someone else to put it on.
So what's supposed to be the intended method of dealing with Leif's ballistae? Lyn Clones were the only thing that let me close the gap without being murdered.
But her big breasts are too sexy for me to resist
>no mommy gf romance in Engage
There's the old hag
Which one?
Eirika's emblem is too big brain for me to use. I have no idea who should use it.
I'm gonna put in on allear because I love ephraim
>Eirika's emblem is too big brain
It's just a damage booster. That's basically it
It gives a small damage bonus that ignores defense and a small decrease in damage taken, or a small heal on hit and more damage dealt. Either way it's a small damage up and defense up so it's best on someone who will double and get the fixed damage boost twice.
Give it to Chloe and she becomes tactical nuke against dragon's.
it's unironically dogshit, when I do my 2nd Maddening playthrough where I actually use DLC, that's the first Emblem I'm dropping for Tiki.
Leif is also kinda mediocre although it gives a lot of build which can be nice for the super heavy weapons.
So can we all agree that Leif is easily the worst Emblem Ring
I will *not* and you can not *make* me
The metacritic reviews for this kusoge are hilarious
>剧情 人设都很幼齿 难度有所提升 主角很弱 重甲+老辛=无敌法拉利。火纹已经在二次元媚宅的路上越走越远了,仔细想想其实很多作品都这样了,比如最近的水星魔女,高达的幼齿化比火纹还厉害,只能说时代变了吧,我等已经不能理解现在的日本年轻人了
>The plot, the characters are juvenile, the difficulty has decreased, the main character is weak, heavy armour + Sigurd = invincible Ferrari. Fire Emblem has gone farther and farther down the road of secondary otaku. When you think about it, many works are actually like this, such as the recent Mercury Witch, the juvenilization of Gundam is even more powerful than the Fire Emblem, we can only say that times have changed, we can no longer understand the young Japanese nowadays
They hated him because he told the truth.
I guess he stopped watching this Gundam after 2 episodes (and probably didn't watch episode 0)
When you get older you start to realize how bad everything is.
You're probably that old enough if you think that
*not that old if you think that
>the difficulty has decreased
yeah no I constantly feel like the chapter I'm playing will finally end my run on maddening
never felt that way with any other FE game ever
given I'm playing with etie/framme/lapis/chloe/alfred and similar low tier units but still
Hard difficulty is just right for me
I'm playing on maddening and it's definitely easier than 3H. Even the "hard maps" anons told me I would get fricked like chapter 10, 11, 13, 19 and Tiki's paralogue were not that hard compared to 3H.
Any game that can be soloed on its hardest difficulty, which includes 3H, is shit by default and not eligible for comparison.
>dlc
opinion invalid
Not an opinion, it's a fact
yeah no
the only difficult map in 3H is the one after the timeskip
Half the map before timeskip have units who can one shot you with double attacks, every archer have poison so stacking def is ok at best. And this goes on after the timeskip where you fight flyers with 8 movements who double attack and have more atk than all of your units
Meanwhile in Engage, a few maps in I can have a dodge tank who can 0% hit every unit, Louis can tank everything in sight. In the later maps? Even easier, you have access to freeze staff to control enemies, you can basically choose to one shot any unit in the map with engage skill.
In 3H, it takes time for your units to get good, and the game only get slightly easier in the later maps.
Engage make you start with completely broken specialized units and it keeps on giving you more tools to deal with any situation. You also start with 10 save scum in Engage compared to I think 3 or 4 in 3H
Anyone who say 3H was easier than Engage is braindead. Maddening Engage is balanced, Maddening 3H was bullshit
>uses rewind
nothing you say matters
>average Elden Ring gatekeeper
If you use rewind you are simply playing a different game so your opinion is irrelevant, good day
I accept your concession
never had an issue with 3H maddening since arts are broken, you never care for counter attacks and you can just alpha strike everything all the time
>it's definitely easier than 3H
I wouldn't go that far. Granted, I looked up class and recruitment requirements for 3H while I went into Engage completely blind (both on Maddening), but it's at least harder than 3H on the whole. 3H had bigger difficulty spikes with 2 and 13, but those are because you're locked out of using the mechanics that trivialize the rest of the game. Engage has a more consistent difficulty since the game-breaking builds are at least limited to individual characters and not every fricking unit. In both, though, doing paralogues early is the only way to approach the experience of the old Lunatic modes and doing that overlevels you enough to remove any difficulty from the following chapters.
>Tiki
you didn't beat the game
If the devs put it in the game on day 1, the game was balanced around it being there. He's just playing a less incomplete version of the game than you are because you're too stupid to pirate israelite shit.
COPE, you are playing with P2W enabled lmao. You didn't beat the game.
>the difficulty has decreased
You can tell this nip played on normal
>nip
based normal mode enjoyer
i agree with some of his points but not all
"main character being weak" - funny bc people have complaining about overpowered self insert MyUnits since Awakening. but maybe that is more of a western complaint. Alear isn't even that bad, he's ok at worst, decent at best, definitely no Roy/Lyn tier and still pretty usable.
>heavy armour + Sigurd = invincible Ferrari
maybe on normal, and to some extent hard, but on maddening and lategame hard louis (or generals in general) defense starts to get outscaled and he can certainly die to phys, on top of that the game mixes in magic units and magic weapons with pretty much every pack, way more than the older games, which absolutely destroys heavy armor units. there are certainly some op things you can do in this game, but louis/sigurd is on the lower end of them... surprised he is not complaining about ike or lyn clone stalling or aoe multiwarp+multidance things instead. whole point of engage's design though is to give you op tools and power creep the enemy design to keep up.
>point of engage's design though is to give you op tools and power creep the enemy design to keep up
You might be right. I just did the incest ring chapter and the fricking drakes are all but immune to anything that isn't engage attacks, like they exist just to force you to use them up before you get to the bosses. Not that it even mattered since I sent Anna and Pannette down south and they completely raped the bosses before anyone else could get there. That's the problem with balancing around supermove bullshit, you either force their use and remove the ability to use them tactically or you let the player turn any given challenge into a complete joke.
>secondary otaku
Holy fricking based Nip man
>Nip
Do you seriously not recognize chinese, japanese and korean? I can't read anything but I can absolutely recognize the alphabets. You guys are not morons are you?
>
Still replied. I win.
Chinese is boxes, Japanese is more curvy lines, and Korean is the one with all the circles?
Kanji is used in both Japan and China. The Japanese also use Katakana and Hiragana. There’s simplified Chinese for the rubes also and Korean has a simplified alphabet that no longer uses Kanji but it has a moron written structure. The person you’re replying to is a moron
>no katakana
>all in kanji
Yeah, this totally isn’t some mad sperge translating his rant and posting it
Its written in Chinese, EOP.
moronic boomers really need to stfu, no one cares about their horrendous opinions
she's gonna be DLC so zephiagays are vindicated in the end
Any proof to back that up?
Three of the character names that are in the DLC are clearly based on Zephia, Griss and Marni.
There are actually some voice lines for Selestia (the one based on Zephia/Sepia) in the game's data and in both Eng and JP she has the same VA as Zephia and one of the audio clips even has her talking about family.
She's dead as a doornail, anon. Let her go already. And she had already commit countless atrocities, she was irredeemable.
She is boring as frick.
I like evil women, but I hate women who teleport out of combat when they lose instead of dying properly like everyone else.
maybe if they stopped coming with handlebars I would
>hold out doesn't stop you from getting one shotted by an engage attack
how am i suppose to deal with these other than sending a general? it seems to always be 100% accuracy so I can't use any evasion units.
put a lyn afterimage as the only target in range, or agro the boss with lyn's engage attack and kill them before they get a turn
Even without a general Ike's engage mode making you take half damage should be able to tank a hit
I just did Lief's Paralogue and his skill would have oneshot any of my units.
I used Corrin and a freeze staff to keep him from ever being able to hit anyone with it.
Reminder it is your duty as the recent FE protag to frick your sister
give her the ring of the azure twins, she'll understand.
That reminds me i need to replay through Awakening now that Aversa's paralogue is out.
Make sure to cum inside her afterwards, anon
Obviously, although i'm not sure where Aversa falls on the ol' Sistometer, is it really fricking your sister if she's both NBR and someone you never knew before recently? Sadly Awakening fans may have to just settle for the fact that Owain can marry Lucina. If Robin wants to marry someone with dragonblood like him he can just marry Nowi.
That’s literally what the support is about. She fricks with you calling you big brother in baby talk despite being older and after you tell her to frick off she apologizes and tells you she wants your cum
I wish this game made more unique character models for bosses. Fighting The Hounds got old at Chapter 17.
Do characters still get marriage endings with their highest support or can only the MC get married this time?
The latter. There are no paired endings at all aside from the MC now.
That's lame
MC Only
Nope
brehs
Needs to be flatter
What class is this?
Sage
>Seliph and Eliwood get cucked of DLC
IT'S NOT FAIR
WHO????
well, Ganker?
dumb b***h
There's only room for one vtuber sticker in my party. Begone.
I gave her horse manure
quack
Im fawning in my mind sorry im not very expressive
Her Japanese voice is sex
I know right? That cutscene where she first appears made me fall in love with a fictional character.
b***h you look like a fricking candy cane
made for correction
You Killed Anna you b***h!
That's Lady Anna to you
that's LADY ANN to you
I want to like Hortensia. I want to like Yunaka. I want to like Panette. But their designs fill me with hatred and every time they do those fricking vtuber look at me I'm so cute and quirky animations I want to reach through the screen and strangle them. Why could they not just give them normal designs?
vtuber popular
>every time they do those fricking vtuber look at me
What is a vtuber look?
dafuq
This
At least the other games attempted to have a degree of verisimilitude
prostitutetensia is the most annoying character in the game
I don't care if you're meta, you were so annoying before your recruitment that I immediately benched your clown ass.
I was trying to look at how flat the enemy sages are but now I can't stop noticing how their arm clips through the cloak
>Doing standard raid on MUH FREEDUMBs palace
>the idiots just let us walk in, gonna have some good times with all their treasure and delicious brown palace women
>This stitch-faced freak just warps into the middle of my squad with nothing but a hand axe
>Screams GREAT AETHER
>too far away to attack her, but everyone else i in my squad all attacks her at once
>What the hell was that!? they're all dead! she didn't even wait until her turn, they all died on counterattack the Great Aether didn't even hit anyone. All my friends are dead and i'm hiding in a treasure chest hoping nobody comes in here.
Elusiabros what the frick you said this would be an easy win, nobody told me about this Suiseiseki sounding psycho showing up!
You don't counterattack while charging Great Aether tbh wa
Oh really? i had lucina on her in my actual run just figured she'd be nuts with ike. She's an absolute beast though, i have a dodge forged Hand axe with terrible might and she still kills with it like it's a Forged silver axe or something.
>just figured she'd be nuts with ike
She is. I threw her forward with a poleaxe on Lyn's paralogue and like eight bow knights couldn't even take off half her health before she killed everyone without the good sense to be using a longbow in one attack. That's when I learned that the exp counter will keep going up even though the bar stops filling after the first 100. And that's on maddening de gozaimasu tbh wa.
Also, isn't it a waste to put Lucina on a backup unit? Her best trait is enabling other types to do chain attacks.
I like it because it makes Lucina's Engage attack actually good for a change. Every ally within 2 spaces joining for a chain attack is okay, but getting every ally within 3 is quite a bit different.
Is that what it meant by range +1? I thought it was activation range; that makes it way better. I've been using her on alear for the extra hit chance it gives bonded shield and all for one, as well as all for one being a fitting attack for the main character
Yeah, i haven't done it yet but it should be possible to get a full 12 man gang-bang on the boss with a Backup powered Lucina All for One, which would almost be a guaranteed kill
Jade bros, report in
Hmm ?
Reporting in.
>Alear offers to leave some soldiers to help defend Solm castle
I was shocked when she said "i can leave some soldiers hear to help you if you need it", at first i was like "what soldiers", then i realized i have like 15 benched units i could totally leave to help her out without missing any of them.
I finished the game a few days ago and I can't name 10 characters from it
It's like a shovelware FE game
That sounds like a you problem, you might want to get your memory checked.
Anon, you're having a stroke, call 911 RIGHT NOW
Come on, anon, it's not that bad. There are at least 10 I can name off the top of my head:
Marth
Sigurd
Leif
Marth (female)
Celica
Eirika
Lyn
Ike
Tiki
Anna
tiki isn't in the game
>Leif
who?
Noticed something interesting.
In Three Houses on hard mode I used to be able to send Byleth and whatever house leader I had to the front lines, while my crappier units moved in a huddled formation
However Engage does reinforcements right on your ass and behind your back
These reinforcements can sometimes 1 or 2 shot units that they only do 0 damage or low damage to Alear (if they can even touch him)
Had to get used to them flipping the script like that
Now Alear is my stopgap that wipes out enemies that spawn from behind
I can really only trust Yunaka to stay behind with Alear as support because she’s actually a decent unit that doesn’t have to be babysat as much
Still only early game, but I’m hoping to get more units like her
You do get another unit that's essentially identical to Yunaka, if that helps.
Well, how is your Alear even tanking anything? Tiki, I guess?
Good growths has 20 defense and 18 res currently
Ever since they went from dragon child to divine dragon class they have become a true shonen protagonist
Haven’t done Tiki yet actually
Looking forward to it, then
I didn't play much of Fates or Three Houses, would I still enjoy Engage?
how do you feel about Sacred Stones and Awakening?
No, play 3H instead. It’s actually good unlike Engage.
No
Does this series have any sort of aesthetic cohesion? Every time I see something from FE nowadays it looks like some random generic design you'd get from just googling "anime girl".
No
Fire Emblem just copies modern anime. No character designers last more than a couple of games and they often bring in guest ones.
Absolutely not. It bounces from one extreme to another. You had the Jugdral era where everything was dark and moody and then you had the Elibe era immediately afterwards where everything was lighthearted and neon coloured like proto-Engage.
>Dark and moody
why is he playing his axe like a banjo?
Next time play the game and post a screenshot from that.
Ok
Wow you cherrypicked the one scene with the comedic relief character off of Google.
Yes. You're braindead if you think Jugdral and Engage have the same aesthetic.
I can't wait for the honeymoon period to be over so people stop being fricking morons about Engage and start looking at it objectively again. It's factually wrong to say that it has the same tone as Jugdral because it very clearly doesn't. The thing it's closest to are the bright colours of the GBA games. You have to be genuinely delusional or a complete secondary to deny that Fire Emblem games change their aesthetic style constantly.
Compared to the colourfulness of Engage and the Elibe games, yes, games like Jugdral and Tellius have a darker and moodier aesthetic. This isn't even arguing that one is better than the other but anybody who has played more than two of these games can notice that FE's artstyle and tone changes completely between entries.
>if you think Jugdral and Engage have the same aesthetic
they do though, it's called "contemporary anime".
And what "contemporary anime" is is a different style depending on the era it comes from, moron-kun, which is why nobody claims that anime from the 20s is identical to anime from the 90s.
>contemporary anime
Why do 3H and Engage look completely different then
because 3H was fujoshit. that's its own entirely separate can of worms.
So you admit that FE doesn't follow "contemporary anime" or that at the very least "contemporary anime" is not one distinct artstyle but rather an umbrella term for a number of different aesthetic
Quit bylethposting anon. And i never claimed there was no variation to contemporary anime, i don't think there's a single artstyle that doesn't have a range within it. except maybe hard realism.
GBA games were bright and vibrate due to hardware limitations.The only reason the snes games were heckin grimdark was because those were the most popular colors for games set in medieval times. Same thing with the Wii games, which had a lower resolution/limited lighting engine which made most things on the console look washed out compared to both 3hs and Engage, even though 3hs has a much darker tone and aesthetic
>The only reason the snes games were heckin grimdark was because those were the most popular colors for games set in medieval times
Anon. Why are you chatting such utter bullshit. Chrono Trigger came out on SNES a year before FE4 and has a bright artstyle. Secret of Mana came out two years before that and also had a bright artstyle. The SNES was dominated by bright RPGs.
Anyone who had a SNES knows that you're chatting shit so I don't see why you're bothering to lie about this. Genealogy does not look anything like the dominant medieval fantasy RPGs of the SNES era.
homie those games have the same 90s anime artstyle as fe4. FE4 has neon-colored hair and bright designs like most of the rpgs on the console. By your logic mario rpg has a grimdark style because the color palette was much darker and bold on average then most snes rpgs. Compare FE4 to castlevania 4 and tell me that shit is anywhere close to what a dark aesthetic was on the snes
"it's less gothic than a franchise that is literally based on gothic tropes therefore it is not darker than average for the SNES era"
You are schizobabbling right now.
It being less dark that Castlevania 4, a fricking gothic-setting game with vampies and skeletons, does not mean it has the same aesthetic as Secret of Mana. You can have a dark aesthetic without going full dungeons and dragons.
You're doing the equivalent of saying "Skyrim looks like Kirby because it's not as dark as Bloodborne." It's a nonsensical argument.
I don't even understand what you're tying to achieve in this line of argument because you're demonstrably wrong to anybody with a pair of eyeballs.
The snes FEs do not have a dark style. It's on par with most other snes rpgs, and a farcry from ones that are actually deliberately designed to invoke dark themes. Fricking zelda has darker designs that take far more inspiration from grimdark tales then uwu colorful-haired anime girls in shortskirts. Get kagas dick out of your mouth
Oh so you're actual argument is just "REEEEE I HATE KAGA HE NEVER DID ANYTHING"
You're either a moron or you're pretending to be one. Looks like it's the former.
>BRO THIS SHIT IS SO DARK
Literal headcanon. Awakening was darker then the snes games in terms of aesthetic
>bright characters in a dark area = dark game
Meanwhile most of the game is actually brightly coloured and looks like this.
Yep you really are a moron. Thanks for demonstrating that to the thread.
Yeah because all of FE4 is trudging through darkness and not a slightly darker green than the norm. Those enemies in mario rpg have darker designs then any of FE4's characters who wear majority neon
>REEEEE I HATE KAGA
Every time you peel the layers back on an "Engage was a return to form" gay you find the same assmad Awakeningshitters who will eternally have to shit on the old games to defend the new ones being Frankenstein's monsters of recycled material from them
They think if they can pretend Kaga did nothing for the franchise then it will somehow make their own games not shit
Kaga's games are wack tho. This series only became good with the GBA titles.
>2023
>uwu
Only a sliver of a chance IF it's a sequel/prequel to another game. If it's standalone, odds are it'll be unique until IS manages to truly tumble the well.
>Put Micaiah on Jean
>She says he's smart for someone so young
Uhhhh...
Lock her up!
>micaiah uses the "you're so mature for your age" line
I swear the devs knew what they were doing with her.
>Hey Doctor! I need a check up
>Do Emblems even need check ups?
>Want to find out? 😉
>hey Louis I hear you have a lot of little brothers, I'm so jealous haha
b***h doesn't even hide it
She's just really good at raising the more helpless units... really really good at it. she has a lot of experience with young children if you know what i mean.
>citrinne merrin support
HOLY MOTHER OF CRINGE
>feeling smug since I'm breezing through maddening.
>Suddenly chapter 24, Fuga's wild ride 2 electric boogaloo.
>Took me an entire day to beat.
Frick this chapter. It's the only chapter I feel I beat through rng being in my favor and not because of any skill.
>Alear and Goldmary's C support
my fricking dick
>get ballbusted by lyn and ike paralogues for two days
>main story is now super easy
frick, did i do them too early? the recommended level was level 2 promoted. or did that actually mean level 22
The paralogues seem way harder than the story levels if you do them as soon as they unlock.
I waited several chapters to do Lyn's because I was hoping I'd run into another magic emblem and be able to promote Framme to something decent before just giving up and benching her at level 19. It wasn't very difficult and only the reinforcements right next to Lyn got a chance to spawn. Ike's was fricking bullshit, but I could probably handle it a lot more easily now that I know not to play it like a defense map and let Ike get swallowed in the sea of reinforcements.
Also, keep in mind that the game levels are based on you getting to 20 in the base class even though that's not optimal for once, so level 2 promoted does want you to have 22 levels of growth, which will correlate to advanced class level 12 if you're playing optimally. The things spawn like five chapters before the main chapters get to that level.
>Alear hit level cap
So do I just second seal him back into divine dragon?
Unless you feel like trying him in a different class.
I do prefer the "Dragon" type at all times for his bonuses with emblems, though
>Benchwarmers keep begging for a second chance
Better tell IS to make that NG+ DLC, then
It's weird how they have that deal with them when the skirmishes in this game are way harder than the normal missions are so trying to level a weak unit in skirmishes is utter suicide.
>skirmishes
Follow the conversation, frog moron
He's saying skirmishes could be good for the characters you DON'T use
That is, if they were actually balanced
under no circumstances should you be doing skirmishes
You're seriously braindead.
no u for even thinking about skirmiishes
Why wouldn’t you do skirmishes when they pop up?
Extra combat
I find this game addicting so more times to engage (lol) with the combat is a plus
Can’t be arsed with everything else
its cheating simple as if I want more combat after im done ill play the game again
>its cheating
It kind of is cheating but it’s how I like to play any game with side content
I just like strolling in on these mustache twirling Saturday morning cartoon villains with my units that have become roided out because of paralogues and side battles and just swooping in to save the day while even my weakest units are rag dolling their units
It was pretty egregious in three houses
It's literally a game mechanic" Please, do tell us how it is cheating
Grinding in RPGs is always top cringe. It's only put in so brainlets can pretend they've finished the game.
The game is centered around skirmishes. You need to do them if you want more than one inherited skills and extra money.
>The game is centered around skirmishes
absolutely false considering Maddening completely removes them and replaces them with Conquest style Invasion battles
Completely true, because Maddening is not the default game difficulty and skirmishes are still present in hard mode. Three Houses and Engage Maddening mode are just the no fun allowed modes that are shit compared to Awakening and Fates Lunatic mods.
>Three Houses and Engage Maddening mode are just the no fun allowed modes that are shit compared to Awakening and Fates Lunatic mods.
>Shit compared to Awakening lunatic mode.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Engage maddening is far more fun and balanced than Awakening lunatic.
You're thinking of lunatic+, which is utter bullshit. Normal lunatic is fine and a better challenge than Engage as long as you don't abuse second seals on Robin like a casual.
>Frederick Emblem
>"fine"
>forcing you to use the best tools at your disposal
>bad
>Maddening is not the default game difficulty
Playing this FE i kind of feel like it is. The main story is properly balanced it's insane to believe this is the same company that made 3H/Echoes/Fates/Awakening/SD/RD/PoR/SS
Oh, so you're not playing Maddening and just pretending to be le super 1337 gaymer, that makes more sense. They're rare, but they do still show up and give more than 1xp per kill.
They're not rare moron, they're literally fixed battles like Conquest which I'm assuming you haven't even played.
???
He's exactly spot on the frick are you talking about?
dumb frogposter
Are they still like that on easy and easier mode? I just assumed it was like Awakening where they made the skirmishes way harder to discourage people from using them to grind on the hardest difficulty. Lunatic skirmishes in that game were nearly impossible until you got Robin through a couple promotions.
>Get enough SP for maybe 1 top-tier skill per character over the entire game without grinding
For frick's sake each unit only has two slots, why did they have to be so stingy with SP on top of that?
I love Lysithea's bond ring!
Is it just me or is this game fricked up regarding its character balance? Unlike previous games I can’t seem to stay with one character because later another one shows up that completely outclasses it even after training, right now only Louie and Chloe have stayed with me, Etie got replaced by the Alcryst who had better stats so I used him, then the desert prince comes who has better stats than him AND has a mount, another case was the sword fighter with pink hair who becomes outclasses when the Red prince showed up. There’s more examples but this is weird.
>Is it just me or is this game fricked up regarding its character balance?
Yes, it has Revelation-tier unit balance. We're still in the honeymoon period right now though so that criticism will be ignored. Wait 6 months and the consensus will have changed.
Unit balance is largely super overrated by the fanbase anyway. This game lets you make anyone you like good with enough investment which is all that really matters.
Tell me how because without grinding for skirmishes for Ring abilities/exp I don’t see how my Alcryst who I trained to level 17 can become as good as the Solm prince who has better stats and only needs two levels to max cap and he can’t promote for MORE stats. I salute people that used Etie all the way.
>he CAN promote for more stats
My bad
my etie is my strongest unit
Etie is god tier man
Genuinely curious, how? I already saw that her main issue seems to be speed and when Alcryst shows up he has like 5 or so more speed than her. She hits hard yeah but what else does she have?
Alcryst is better than Fogado by default anon... Fogado has a little more speed while Alcryst has a way better innate skill and class skill.
The +2 to attack he gets when someone gets nearby? I don’t see how that makes him better, sure it’s +2 damage but on higher difficulties it doesn’t mean much since the enemies seem to be really bulky so it’s preferable to break and then gang up, I don’t know the class skill, does Sniper have double lion or something?
he doesn't go into sniper, he has his own unique class with luna. Fogado has his own unique bow knight with a worse version of PoR counter, aka basically nothing
Fogado was such a dumb unit to put Counter on. what were they thinking
you give him lief so he doesn't get attacked without being able to counter? honestly I have no idea. Alfred has pavise but as far as I know there isn't anyone with aegis so that should have given fogado that.
It's +3 Str when an ally within 2 squares gets hit. that should proc almost all the time especially against bosses and a perpetual +3 Str on top of his already higher Str than Fogado means yes, he's always going to be hitting way harder, and that's before Luna procs and adds like 15 damage to his attack.
Alcryst has a better class and personal ability while Fogado's personal ability is dogshit and his Class skill is just kind of bad.
Alcryst gets covert bonuses too which are much more useful on average than cav's +1 movement.
Being mounted isn't really much of a benefit in this game either because the difference in movement is only +1, there's no inherent canto, and the SIgurd ring can make anybody have super cav movement.
In fact I think the meta shit now is making all archers warriors because backup utility is just far stronger.
Alcryst is a beta cuck though
he isnt
no revelations has the opposite problem where you will get a unit super late and they are weak as frick, beruka is basically unusable
I dropped Louis like a fricking stone really early on
They didn't even do anything to balance horse units this time since canter is now an emblem skill instead of a cavalry trait and cavalry and infantry both have the same movement penalties on terrain, including cavalry not having any problems in the desert this time.
>Use Lapis from the first turn I have access
>Just a few chapters later get Kagetsu, who is already promoted, has better stats, has almost strictly better growths, and comes with more SP than Lapis earned in the time I used her
Shit's weird.
An argument can be made for a lot of units based on their class type. Covert units have better options with emblem rings in general plus their own avoid bonuses, while cavalry that joins mid-game has nothing going for them but raw movement until you get Sigurd back later and can start inheriting canter again. I genuinely don't believe Fogado is a straight upgrade from Alcryst.
Etie can also easily move into Warrior for longbow backup memes, but it's not really a gamechanger, much less worth a spot on your team.
Lapis is a laughing stock unfortunately.
Lapis is CUTE though
i think people forget they can use who ever they want and not follow spread sheets
No anon you have to use the character that the guy on youtube told me has the best stat growth!!!!
The deployment slots are so low you can't really afford to play favorites in Maddening. I thought I was going to use Diamant and even promoted him but I then get Kagetsu who already mogs Diamant and I don't have room to deploy both.
Even messing around with Citrine, Clanne, and mage Anna I ended up ditching all of them for Pandero because his bases are decent enough while having actual non single digit defenses.
The only good early game unit is Chloe and that is only if you feed her the energy drop you get in Jean's paralogue.
>Rereading archived Ganker threads from 2019
>Everyone shitting on Fates and saying 3H is the best game in the franchise
>Reading Ganker threads from 2023
>Everyone shitting on 3H and saying Engage is the best game in the franchise
I swear the nuFE fanbase are the biggest braindead consoomers outside of Pokemon, they just like whatever's new and hate whatever came before it because it's not the new product
i liked conquest, three houses and engage, all for different reasons
>Everyone shitting on 3H and saying Engage is the best game in the franchise
What? Engage's reception has been pretty mixed.
shitting on 3H and saying Engage is the best game in the franchise
I have seen plenty in these threads calling Engage a "return to form" because it's more like awakening instead of 3H.
Jesus I still remember how ass mad Awakening made the "fans" of the series because it wasn't Fire Emblem or whatever.
This lmao
It's hilarious seeing people calling it a return to form when its the same absolute shite they were making in the 3ds era
fates(conquest) was peak form
the frick are you talking about? I like all 3 game
Why the frick are skirmishes so fricking difficult compared to the story missions
Yes I want more money to upgrade weapons. have a nice day you frogposting homosexual.
>Yes I want more money to upgrade weapons.
no, manage what you have better
have a nice day you frogposting homosexual.
>maddening
>"tough, but fair" they said
Compared to 3H, this is a nightmare.
I am this close to buy fricking DLC.
How many units can you bring on endgame missions? 14? 16? Or does it stay at 12?
>*gets a perfect level up almost every single level*
Using Tiki is baby shit
I fricking wish, the only reason I haven't benched this useless homosexual is because I want to see more of his supports.
I’m so mad I couldn’t pair him up with any of the girls for the lulz
Me three. I wanted all my shota gods to dick down all those hot b***hes in my army
This is also fun to do. Ricken and Tharja was a fun pairing and so was Hayato and Orochi/Kagero
Randomly got Soren's S ring while doing the obligatory 10 summon on Ike's ring that i did for every new emblem ring i got. Is this actually worth trying to build around? Even a forged Wind has pretty mediocre might, to the point where i'm not even sure i'd want to use it if this had an 100% proc rate instead of it's Dex% proc rate.
hell no
I don't want to promote because almost everyones outfit is worse on their "canon" promoted class, why didn't they include the battle outfit thing from 3h for this?
It'll probably get patched in, pretty sure it wasn't available at launch in 3H either.
>pretty sure it wasn't available at launch in 3H either
yeah it wasn't, just weird they wouldn't include it on launch this time around
https://gamebanana.com/mods/424968
Wouldn't using this make it so your battle outfit is always the same as what's being worn at base?
For me it's Thief Anna
Basically unhittable and crits like a mother fricker
>Level 14 Celine
>She got more strength than magic
Huh so she really is supposed to be Celica
on a side note, Louis? not particularly a great unit if you ask me! Sigurd fricks off? so does any hopes of Louis staying on the team!
I dunno his 23 defense as a great knight is pretty helpful right now, although I’m playing hard chapter 14, I guess he sucks more in Maddening since you’d prefer killing than defending the strong as frick enemies.
he's been great for me in maddening
I'm on maddening and I benched him at level 8 because armor knights always fall off later, but ended up having him fill in on the Solm palace level because his core stats were as good as the shitskin princess' even though she was 10 levels higher. He's back on the bench now, but he'd probably be fine if I made him a great knight.
Because he can’t be stat screwed in maddening Louis just keeps getting what he needs to stay relevant. Give him a silver greatlance and his damage is enough to one shot weaker enemies and bring stronger ones down low enough to be picked off by everyone else. His low movement can become an issue but he’s around long enough to build the sp to inherit canter before chapter 10, letting him keep up with other units. If you give him Ike he will be invincible to physical attacks outside of the occasional greataxe enemy.
he's god tier. as a general he will never be broken but you must be weary of mages.
>stacking defense on Jade
>give her a steel greataxe with Ike's emblem
>1 shots every flier while taking 0 dmg
Fun stuff, she even has half decent Res with her skill and Ike's axe
so are you supposed to be leveling advanced classes to 20 or should you just swap between them as you learn the skills
You don't keep skills between classes. Level to 20 and use a second seal to come back to 1 or try a different class if the unit needs to be in a different role
It doesn’t matter. You can technically infinitely grind levels just like Awakening if you’re autistic enough
>or should you just swap between them as you learn the skills
No. You didn't keep the class skill when you change to another class. For every step forward Engage makes in gameplay mechanics it takes one step back and this shit is one of them
>stacking up class skills was a good thing
Holy casual
>The game isn't bogged down by Conquest skill autism
>this is somehow a bad thing
Class skills are underpowered on average, but being locked to the class that gives them is fine, it makes classes actually distinct.
>>The game isn't bogged down by Conquest skill autism
It is, but instead of grinding a class you're grinding ring bonds.
homie you drown in fragments with achievements
you get fragments for cheevos?
yes
fricking hell I just booted up and found 22000 frags waiting for me.
I gues those S rank ring melds now sort of make sense.
If you're really israeli about it you can also savescum till you get an S ring
I knew that much, I just thought the legitimate method for merging rings to S rank was outrageously expensive compared to the amount of bond frags you have, but it seems I was simply moronic for fifteen chapters
It’s still pretty expensive. If you want to reasonably use the level 20 bond effects on your army for the last few chapters you’ll need to raise the bond level in the arena for a few thousand fragments. Most of the better skills are also behind a bond level greater than 10, and the amount of engrave slots (if you care about that) for emblem weapons improves as more people get a higher bond rating with that emblem.
I can get three or four bond levels per chapter most of the time. Maybe you're not using bond skills and engage enough.
You should never meld rings btw
I got about 40000 when I collected for the first time after chapter 19.
Is Liberation worth keeping on Alear, or should I ditch it for something else? Chapter 17 and I feel like his build stat is being put to waste on such a light and weak weapon.
+4 liberation means enemies never goes above 50% hit, he's a good dodge tank
Dodge build on Liberation sounds like trash. The only benefit of having Liberation is the engage meter charge, which sucks on a dodge build since it only procs on player phase, not enemy phase. Why not just use silver sword+5 and engrave that?
lol, Ike engrave does seem better for it if I want to stack strength and go for one-shots to charge the engage meter.
mine was +5 and marth engraved and lasted basically the whole game.
Slap that Ike engrave on it then. You won't, pussy.
Liberation +5 has the same stats as a silver sword but is cheap as frick to refine comparatively.
If you haven’t made a bad unit work you’re not a true tactician.
Hero's are so good but their design is so fricking trash. Hate seeing my Alear running around with that weird floating necklace cape and shitty buckler.
Does hit get rolled before crit. Have had Panette miss so many 100 percent crits that I'm debating switching from Corrins engraving to something that gives more hit.
how do you expect to crit if you don't even crit?
Supports are a good source of hit. Byleth on a cav unit is good too since they give a whole +10 dex on instruct.
>Lucina's paralogue is the flat empty Ferox Arena
I laughed after playing through the kino maps on maddening so far.
>Lucina's paralogue is the flat
I still don't get how Lucina ended up so popular that she eclipsed all of the other more important characters
She was introduced in the first Fire Emblem game to ever get advertised stateside. She could've replaced Marth completely over here and no one would've cared at all.
I get that they chose an easy map to ease you in to Emblem Paralogues, but something like Awakening 6 would have been kino
Might've actually given Lucina an opportunity to use All for One too
Is that the map Lucina gets introduced at the end of?
No, that'd be Ch. 1 (the burning forest) but she did help with the defense as an NPC
I mostly wanted it because it's one of my favorite maps from Awakening
I mean where she actually introduced herself (as Marth). Chapter 1 shows her falling out of the sky and killing a Risen but i don't think she gave a name to chrom then.
That's at the end of Ch. 1, yeah.
It's emblematic of Awakening map design ;^)
Though seriously that's one of the more memorable maps from that game for me just because of how Lunatic forces you to work with nothing but unit positioning when you're still outclassed by every enemy. They're also clearly going for important story maps over the most well-designed ones. I was laughing at how the Byleth one keeps the moron AI who just totally ignore you while you bash their skulls in.
Etie...
>no Etie dick shadow meme picture
>tags:size_difference
Impossible.
What are the saddest death quotes you anons have gotten? For me it's Panette's. The touch of self depreciation gets me.
Etie said at least she could've served as your meat shield in her final moments.
I just bought it. I don't know anything about it besides the MC is toothpaste. Its good?
It's better than every FE besides the GBA and SNES ones
I'd say it's better than genealogy
Its the worst FE ever, besides Heroes.
kys
the writing is not good but the game is fun. maddening is a real challenge, but most of the time its a good challenge
The writing wasn't bad
It's better than every FE besides the GBA, SNES, DS, GCN, Wii, and 3DS ones.
have a nice day
Them 2 but sadly they are not playable
Is the bottom one even a woman?
Its the queen of solm so yes
>On mid game
>Most of my characters have 500-1000 sp so check out some skills
>Most of them only get the +2 to str, dex, spd, etc
>The good ones take 1000 sp and the better version of those take fricking 3000
Wtf are you supposed to hoard exp until you get the 3000 until the end of the game or grind? How do people even get skills in Maddening if there is no grinding?
Don't need the best one
Two of the DLC Emblems are going to have cheap skills to make money and SP grinding ez and they're going to make the pass sell like crazy.
Screencap this post.
This, and Hector emblem is pretty much guaranteed to have Distant Counter as an inheritable skill to encourage you to grind everybody.
The pre chapter 10 units (aside from Jade because she’s fricking stupid and didn’t start with a ring) have a good chance to reach 1000 sp before you lose the rings if you plan on using them, while everyone after chapter 10 starts with at least 1000 sp. You do have to plan on which skills you want to inherit, though I’ve noticed that the units I consistently used always had around the same sp as a unit who just joined. The ridiculous coating skills are either meant for the emblem user only or something you have to save up for as your unit’s main skill.
Byleth Mentorship, Corrin's quality time, Lucina's Dual Assist, and Lyn 's speed +3 are generally good
stat bonuses stack so if you learn Def+3 and then equip the Ike ring you get a whooping +6 def.
I just realized this when I put Byleth on Anna and got +12 luck boost, good info.
Get the tiki dlc, and give everyone starsphere. better value than any other skill imo
https://gamebanana.com/mods/425109
Honestly? It probably needs to be triple SP
Skills are iterative. Resolve+ is 2000 SP but if you buy Resolve for a 1000, Resolve+ will now cost 1000.
In other words, don't be a moronic hoarder.
alear hips
Figure when? F!Alear deserves a hot glue.
>dying her hair a third color
Imagine all the complaining online about it when you post her.
>Chapter 6
>already have two adorable shotas
Shoot I should have made the girl MC
WHO DO I GIVE BOOTS TO!
Alear and your waifu or the dancer
i just slapped them on alear
Your lord so you can LTC those capture maps.
do i get something for low turn counts?
i just spent 40 turns juggling characters with Reposition to pump relationship points
Louis
Avatar, low movement class, strongest, or favorite/waifu/husbando, as usual.
Your Louis/Jade that you reclassed to General.
But my Louis has a cool horse
Lady Veyle's toes in my mouth
Sex with Anna behind the stables
It's going to be so kino when it drops to 80 and has a lower score than musou asset flip shit
>Alfred/Bunet support
I almost forgot why these games are so popular with fujos
I keep getting fricked over by being too wienery and splitting my team up to take everything down at once
I just got through the chapter where you fight her and the sage guy for the last time, and I'm amazed at how stupid their characters are.
>dragon mage lady is sad that the big bad dragon never wanted to give her a baby
>she's dying along with masochist sage guy
>she realizes that she could've just flopped over to alear's team, dragged sage guy with her, and made a baby with him instead
>the real villain is japan's declining birth rate
>>she realizes that she could've just flopped over to alear's team, dragged sage guy with her, and made a baby with him instead
Yeah, you misread that. She realized the children she wanted was with the four hounds all along. She literally says "What i wanted was in front of me the whole time."
Sombron was a safer pick then trying to romance alear at that point. The whole idea was that she thought she having a child with bloodties would give her a family but she already had a family in the hounds
easy i don't like any women in kusoge games
Lucina on Yunaka/Zelkov is pretty much the most optimal use of Lucina, right?
I like Corn on Yunaka for free avoid tiles.
I put Lucina on the dancer because I don't know what else to put on him.
Corrin on a mage is a free instant 10-tile chokepoint every single turn. Lucina on any unit that can attack 2-3 tiles away to make the most out of dual assist.
Corrin on Veyle is the best play. She gets access to all the dragon veins, fire pillar, fog, water, ice, etc. It makes her one of the best utility units in the game.
I had Lucina on Alear for the longest time since Alear can A support anyone and Lucina boosts avo based on adjacent units with high support.
There is also an argument for using her on a flier or other high mov unit since they would chain attack from really far away
Why does this game suck so much?
It's like every time they had a decision to make, they made the worst one possible.
80% chance she's a GHB in FEH + playable + romancable in a way + summer alt + coom
>boss has a bunch of strong guards that would make fighting him difficult
>charges out alone into the middle of your group so you can gangbang him without a care in the world
Moving bosses was a mistake.
Sigurd was never known for his intelligence
Just did Ch8, should I give Anna the master seal and second her to Sage or have her slum around as a mage and give the master to someone else. I feel like abusing Micaiah's bullshit for exp should be enough to get her well past lv 5 before the ring cuckening happens
do it now, there's no point in waiting
Just master then second seal her. She have to be one of my strongest unit in my game. Raping shit with Excalibur, Thoron and Bolganone
Currently c23 maddening
When is the supposed difficulty spike?
Or is it "hard" because morons can't into enemy ranges/abuse emblems?
It's much easier than Lunatic + awakening
Lunatic awakening is only hard in the first few chapters and the very last two
I beat it by turning Donnel and Robin into gods and slaughtering everything
Lunatic conquest is the fairest "hard" FE game imo
>Lunatic conquest is the fairest "hard" FE game imo
Haven't finished Engage Maddening yet, upto Ch22 but so far it's felt even better than Conquest but maybe that's because time crystal prevents it from getting too annoying and you don't have to risk units over an 92% attack missing.
Am I the only one who likes the addition of the turnwheel? I just rewound a turn because an enemy hit me with a 37% hit and a 9% crit.
In addition, the turnwheel enables me to try risky moves if I wish to do things like funnel xp on to units like Anna.
I like it.
Most people like it. Even the ones shitposting about it on Gankereddit probably use it.
morons would just reset the game anyways after getting crit. All it does is streamline what has been FE tradition for decades
It's grown on me. Restarting the whole map because an enemy got a 3% crit sucked ass.
I like the turnwheel mechanic too and glad that it looks to be staying. This shit would have been a god send in Conquest lunatic
>This shit would have been a god send in Conquest lunatic
Tell me about it. Almost dropped Conquest when I'd nearly finished Hinoka's map (Kazama and Hinoka were the only units left) and attacked Kazama with Corrin.
You could have used an example of the map spawning in fliers with 12 move and instead you used one of you being a complacent idiot.
I like it so that when I'm a moron and stand in a second enemy's range that I didn't see or attack in the wrong order or with the wrong weapon I can go back, or for map gimmicks like dropping reinforcements on my back line
I don't use it for accuracy/crit correction.
You just explained why i don't like it.
I absolutely love it for moments like "whoops, didn't mean to end turn standing in that spot, that gets in the way, let's just turn wheel back a sec" But using it to cheese RNG like "that was a shit level up, redo" or "bullshit that that 40% attack actually hit me" just doesn't sit right with me.
you can't rng abuse level ups
Depending on the situation you can. If it's near the end of a map it's easy enough to bench the unit from the boss fight so that their level ups change when they get to the arena in Somniel, of course that all only matters on Hard or lower. Lunatic having fixed mode was such a nice decision for this game.
It was an awful decision. Random level up was one of the things that set FE apart.
You have two options then anon, you can suck it up and play one run with fixed and then it'll unlock random for you, or you can play on journalism mode.
not him but i just got back from enduring a naked x run on mmx6 nightmare difficulty, i want to wind down at least a little so please no bully for playing anything bellow fixed lunatic
If I'd known about it ahead of time, I'd have just waited for mods to fix it. It's my own fault for playing a modern game on release, but I really never expected them to silently force a mechanic that had only ever had as a weird post-game gimmick in one game before abandoning it forever.
I would prefer a game that is balanced around letting units die instead of expecting you to reset every time, but since that's never going to happen after 11 they might as well make it convenient to undo the bullshit surprises. I still don't like that encourages the kind of things you're using it for, though. If you can't even roll with taking a hit or not being able to get optimal xp distribution then you shouldn't be playing probability-based combat games.
Oh snap it's the ironman autist, i had a question for you. Do you delete your file if your lord dies?
Isn't this mechanic just a built in save state? Why are people bothered by it, the consoles have finally caught up to basic emulator QoL
>Save State
>QoL
lol, PC "gamers" everyone.
Resetting the chapter is just rewinding time to turn 0
>noooo don't reset just ironman
Now you're rewinding the entire game when you fail
The only REAL way to play is ironman russian roulette, you die in real life with Alear
I found chapter 24 to be the hardest chapter so far and currently in 25 which doesn't seem as difficult but still a decent challenge.
Holy moly, people acting so contrarian now that they're pretending Awakening Lunatic was a good mode LMAO
Fire emblem fans are moronic
Lunatic Awakening is only difficult in the first 5 maps. You can still beat it with Nosferatu and other bullshit the game had. Lunatic +, on the other hand, was pure cancer.
Lunatic+ from awakening is resetlandia and not very well tested
Haven't you heard, anon? With FE, old good, new bad.
Awakening isn't old wtf
>2012
kusoge
How about stop shilling your shitty censored game
>Beat Celicas map in 5 turns becaue she warp ragnaroked a clone in the middle of my units.
Kek. With the way you're told to take out the summoners asap I wasn't expecting her too move until they were taken out.
Well then tell good women to get bigger breasts and dress more provocatively. It's their fault, really.
It's obvious that Engage is going to get a new Game +. Getting points to unlock emblem skills is slow, getting orbs to level up Emblem weapons is slow, the whole region leveling system etc.
Thoughts?
My team is full of bldlets so Leif is useful for me.
Leif is a weirdly balanced Emblem. Awful in battle but god tier inheritable skills
You need Leif for Vantage+ on Panette, anyway. Wrath Vantage is still burst as frick.
Corrin to S tier, Ike to top of A, Lucina to bottom of A
wrong, drop Lyn to A and Eirika to C, raise Corrin, Roy, Lucina and Ike to S
Marth I'm still unsure on as I haven't finished his paralogue yet
>Lucina on b tier, Roy a tier.
Shit list. Lucina is S tier easily for bond defense alone and she also gives you dual assist. Roy is mediocre.
Roy is not mediocre. He gives giga STR boost and makes whoever you give to pretty much invincible if paired with wrath/vantage
bump corrin up to s tier
>corrin
>makes unit tankier
>passive healing for allies
>creates artificial chokepoints
>engage applies draconic hex/5 target freeze
Easily better than Lyn
Oh, I'm a moron. I read Chrom and thought you were confusing him with Marth.
Both Tiki and the Three Houses homosexuals and SS tier
Corm is an easy S tier for being able to root bosses and her synergy with covert classes, Ike and sigurd are both easy S tiers, Lyn is more of an A tier, Leif is better than the worst just due to having a nuke you can pull out to kill one unit now and due to the versatility he gives to a unit. Leif can basically make one of your units unbreakable, Lucina belongs in A tier just due to her ability to negate damage.
I have absolutely no clue what priorities or usage you're getting out of these that you even tiered them like this.
This is Lapis. She was supposed to be a swordsmaster, but the guy already promoted as swordsmaster is way better than her at that job. People memed her channeling her inner Meg as a Sword General. But in truth, she would be better as a Wyvern or Griffin Knight. Say something nice about her.
I force fed her energy drops and gave her a forged Killing Edge and I'm taking her to endgame.
She has a cute tummy
Yes, this was annoying. I forced her to be swordmaster anyway
I thought she was cute but then you get Kagetsu like 2 chapters later
I'm sorry but she's not cute enough to outmatch those Ryoma tier BASES
No idea what the frick they were thinking with kagetsu. Dude is fricking untouchable, and even when he does get hit he isn't taking much damage.
She doesn't even have better growths than him lol
it is honestly fricking silly, but I'm not gonna complain too much. Kagetsu is the swordmaster type character I have wanted since playing blazing blade all those years ago. Its like getting fe6 karel halfway through the game instead of at the end.
Lapis had a rough life, she gets replaced THE CHAPTER after she joins by a guy who is just her but better, and then HE GETS REPLACED 2 chapters later, and if you think "Oh i'll at least make Diamant use axes so he won't be useless" HE GETS OUTCLASSED AT THAT by Panette who joins like two chapters after Kagetsu.
Lapis is like someone who entered a 16 man tournament and got... 16th. the guy she lost to, lost to another guy that himself lost in the third round to someone who didn't win the whole thing.
She's Aoki from Hajime no Ippo, right down to being the cutest named character.
she looks cute
Why did she want to suck off alcryst so bad?
I used her as she was the first sword fighter that appeared, I gave her the forged Folkvangr with the Marth engraving and she worked out really well as a dodge tank.
>Folkvangr
you didn't beat the game
I got to endgame and saw the credits, seethe more.
you are a gachahomosexual, you've already lost
Seething troony
>unironically using seethe in current year
>calling anyone else a troony
the only other people who say seethe are ESLs, pajeets, SEAmonkeys, and trannies
Absolutely MALDING trannoid
I'm gonna commission porn of Alcryst fricking Citrinne while Lapis watches
Have her with her hands covering her face, but with a small finger opening
>Both brothers want to frick their rich sexy cousin
weird but hot
Not weird at all, just grabbing from old games.
Fire emblem lords are so horny for their sisters that they'll adopt random children to fill in the roll if they don't know they have one. it's crazy.
I just made kagetsu a bow knight and she became my dedicated swordie dodge tank to choke with jade.
Kagetsu as bow knight is way better and will carry your maddening runs anyways.
She has a nice tummy and cute hair, I want to try and use her in my maddening run but I have no idea if she'll make it even if I focus on her.
She'll always be wack as frick compared to Kagetsu but the game isn't hard enough even on Maddening that you need the most op units.
I'm on like chapter 15 and i still have 3 energy drops, 2 seraph robes, a secret book, a dracoshield, 2 talismans, and some boots that i haven't used yet because i always sit on stat boosters way too long. Give all of those to Lapis and i'm sure she'll be plenty usable no matter what.
Which actually reminds me yunaka could probably use that Seraph Robe, her HP is the one place she's really fallen behind for me.
I'm just using all the cute girls and it's still not that hard. I'm pretty sure a planned run with high-tier units would be a cakewalk. This isn't like 12 where only only the best are usable.
I use her as a great knight. Red armor, red horse armor and red killing blade is a kino look.
Just make her a hero
AAAAAAHHHHHH I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PRINCESS IVY!!!!!!!!
>using staves other than heal, mend, physic and restore
You didn't beat the game
>using any consumables or any weapons other than the ones characters come already equipped with
You...
>using staves at all
Just say you play the game on easy mode
I genuinely don't use anything other than heals until the last couple chapters out of habit. Even though you can buy them openly and they probably make the game piss easy, I'm too conditioned by the games where you have to save up rescues for endgame strats to work. That's just autism though, the gift stat-boosters are the only legitimate "you didn't beat it" to me.
>using staves
you didn't beat the game
>using any consumables other than your waifu's leftovers
you are gay....
those are for bunet
I only let Louis cook so i get the All women get +1 all stats food bonus.
just sell the leftovers for 20g its FREE real estate
how do i get the chests on erika paralogue? erika always rushes at my team when i go anywhere near the chests
I haven't gotten around to it yet myself, but I doubt it is a problem that the ol' warp n rescue can't solve
I haven't played that map yet, but i guarantee there's a staff you could use to get those chests that you aren't thinking of. Freeze and Obstuct can buy you more time if you need to delay the thief or just block Eirika for a turn. Warp is the most obvious way to speed up getting somewhere so that should go without saying.
I was able to grab them before her team of sages went full rush mode.
Are you killing the thieves? Not sure if that matters.
Remember that Corn is 4 turns where a boss can't move and your 3-range units can chip away. You've got all the time in the world.
i can handle erika just fine, it's the chest im having problem with, it's on both side and 4 grifins and 4 wyvern just wienerblocks the warp rescue units
in the end i just stayed out of erika agro, left 1 thief alive, let him loot both chest then snipe with panete+lyn astra
>another game with playable soldiers
>they just give you a cute girl who's basically a better soldier
Is there anybody who makes a fun Halberdier? I was considering reclassing Amber into it but
>reclassing out of Paladin
I reclassed Chloé into one, with lance avoid she was pretty good
that sounds pretty good actually, Chloe's one of my best units but being a flier is a liability as often as it is useful, i'd miss swords a little bit, but not a whole lot and with her blue hair i can pretend she's cosplaying Nephenee.
You're not me! My Chloé is an avatar of destruction as a wyvern rider and I refuse to give that up.
Does Micaiah grooms her younger sister
I sure hope so. I need a wife.
She's working on it, but she got a late start since she only recently discovered she had a sister to groom.
Nice
Female Alear is fricking adorable I don't care what anyone says.
>easy mode too easy
>hard mode too hard
Why the FRICK do the enemies in skirmish battles have so much fricking HP? Holy fricking shit I hate this.
Just use your crit masters on everyone. Alcryst, Kagetsu, Yunaka for me.
bro your upgraded weapons? your poisons? your backup bros?
Why are books as heavy as lances
Knowledge weighs heavy on the mind.
have you tried casting magic? it's not easy
Is it bad that i'm tempted to inherit Quality time on everyone just so i see more support conversations?
Just do infinite support gainz with spammable actions like Dance/Reposition/Swap etc
Reposition/Swap give support? neat, i've actually got the S rank Bond ring with Drag Back too, so i could do a few of those a turn.
Is Eiria's twincest strike the only efficient way to deal with the corrupted lizard things or is it just maddening being silly? I need to stack a bunch of buffs to do some chip damage instead of 2x0 to them.
Dealing with them revolves completely around getting Alear around them and to the synchro boost field so he can use the siscon attack again.
Tempest trials bro, forge up some effective corrupted emblem weapons/
Oh, I thought it was the online shit and completely ignored it.
You mean that isn't online shit?
The good news is that Tempest Trials aren't online shit
The bad news is that they're procedurally generated grindy bullshit
The second good news is that they don't have maddening ai so you can park your dodge tank on a heal tile and watch them dodge everything and counter then die to mages and chain attacks
it's not but the drop rates are genuinely terrible. You need like 25 orbs to get a +1 or something if I remember correctly. I did one and I only got 3 orbs of different stats.
It's the best way of dealing with them early. Their defense doesn't scale at all basically though so you'll be one shotting them with any strong unit later.
Hm, this dragon sure is a fat tub of frick, taking care of it will require careful positioning
or maybe
>*throws Pannette at it, who one-shots with a crit*
move your back up units next to it then hit it with other people
you do have multiple back up units in your team right?
>ctrl F 'Boucheron'
>0 results
good, I knew I was right on the money when I felt he was born to be a benchwarmer.
Boucheron is an anagram for OurBench
Oh snap! I mean I like the guy, he just sucks.
you should know better than to hope for the chapter 1 warrior to be notable
I was going to use him on my first playthrough but I benched him for Anna, I'm on my 2nd playthrough and using him now and he's just OK.
He is, which is funny, because he's the best of the three that join you on chapter 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>20 base strength growth on a fricking axe fighter
Is it normal that my Ivy has 18 def while Dimant has 12
>ngh... Soko wa dame tbh (Corrin)
>Aaa! Soko dame! (Tiki)
you have been molesting your dragons every chapter haven't you anons?
You're telling me that when Daggers do assists they still apply poison stacks?
Is this bawd any good?
She joins late, so probably yeah.
she's a chain attack bawd that gets passed around by your entire party
Panette de Pon
I love black women now thanks to her.
Don’t care plus didn’t ask
Good thing I don't have to wait for you to ask since this is a public forum
Why does break wand have such shit accuracy?
It's extremely situational, you can achieve break by many other means and you also pay the opportunity cost of wand user not doing anything else.
Probably the 10 range. Also 70 accuracy isn't exceptionally bad, that's like most axes. Get some Dex son.
Staff accuracy is determined by your MAG vs their RES from what I remember. Staff Mastery also gives +15 hit I think. Hortensia is actually pretty bad at landing statuses because of her shit MAG. Give them to Citrinne or Ivy.
byleth's divine pulse can also trigger on status staves
Oh interesting. I wonder if that's why they defaulted Byleth to Hortensia.
she's a support character overall so it makes sense to give it to her. Even her personal skill and class skill are staff focused, and her class is only B tomes and S staves. Res isn't that great of an instruct bonus though since mages aren't super common compared to physical.
I moved byleth off of her to merrin for the dex buff but since she's one of my stronger units I was thinking of finding someone else to put it on.
So what's supposed to be the intended method of dealing with Leif's ballistae? Lyn Clones were the only thing that let me close the gap without being murdered.
Skills for Seadall? Just give him mentorship and forget about him i guess?
canto and mobility
I gave him quality time to heal after dancing
I thought about that, i might do it just because it's cheap.