First time playing DnD part3

Hi anons. I posted a few threads about a month ago, about prepairing for my first time playing DnD. I got some good advice, some good links and a bunch of shit for playing 5e (thats the only game this DM plays, and he's the only DM i found so far at my uni).
Session 0 and the first actual game session happened in the past two weeks, and it was a lot of fun.
I had a few questions i guess, and just wanted to talk about the experience, because why not.
Pic related, it's an oil painting i did of my character. (I know, i know, i'm shit at painting)

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The DM is over all a decent guy, though a bit awkward.
    What i don't know is if he is a good DM, as i have nothing to compare him to.
    He sent us a 6 page word document on the world we'll be playing in, along with some maps.
    We had a session 0, where we discussed our character ideas, and the back story and filled out our character sheets. (most of us looked up spells and races way beforehand and talked about it to DMguy a while ago)
    Session 1 we started playing, all the characters incountered the same caravan one by one over like 4 hours of real time. The npcs are mostly fun and interesting, though a bit 2D so far. It also seems like DM is quite flexibel in what we can do. Not cruel, but also not too forgiveing.
    The only criticism i have is he will take like 10 minuits setting up a scene going into detail like the colour of the cups on the table next to us or whatever.
    Over all i think we all had fun.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The players are the following.
    Me, goliath wizard who wants to be a noble but has a weird ide what that means. Uses illusion, conjuration and some damage and protection spells. When playing my character, i do a theatrical booming voice with fancy words playing a goliath playing at being a noble.
    My girlfriend, water genasi sorcerer, village burnt down by misterious people we don't knwo who, family and half of the village were killed, is searching for caulprit. Pathologically hates fire, puts it out whenever possible. She's a bit afraid to RP so far, but has said she wnats to try.
    My best friend since 4th grade, plays a tiefling cleric in trickery domain, every time he is aksed why he is going out adventureing he gives a different answer (though apparently he has a real answer written dwon). Uses magic to do all kinds of bullshit, get people to fight eachother, steal, cheat, all kinds of fun stuff. He's creative in the mischiefe, but also doesn't do much in the way of RP.
    Some girl from the mictobiology department, plays half elf bard. Hasn't done much yet, though seh makes a lot of money with her preformance. Also, though shy, she seems to be into the RP aspect of it as much as she can.
    DM's girlfriend, halfling druid, has barely done anything beyond roll here eyes at literally anything the DM does. I swear to god we need to find DM guy a better gf, he could do so much better.
    Anyway, for context, 5 of us are from the same uni, we study various aspects of biology, 3 geneticists, 1 microbiologist and one ecologist. The sixth, my old friend went to film school. We play in either one of our apartments or a local games club.
    Pic semi related, it's an oil painting i did of my girlfriends character.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Last post(s) then i wait to see if anyone has any advice. Just wanted to post the spellcard designes i'm working on right now.
    This one says "by the word of the dragon i command the world" and laso "cantrip" in draconic written in draconic alphabet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And this one says "by the word of the dragon i command the gods" and "level one".
      I bough black cardboard and whit pens to do this in real life as the back side of spellcards.

      These are cool, I like goetic imagery too. Mind if I steal these to use for my own spellcard backings?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The paintings and cards are seriously cool.
      As for advice, it's 5e, it's pretty bad as a wargame, so have fun with the role playing. And get your DM a better gf, but not before the campaign is done.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The paintings and cards are seriously cool.
        Thanks anon. I'm stuck in the city for a few weeks (got a lot of work to do in the lab), so my indoors hobbies are what i can focus on right now. So i'm manufactureing a douzen of these cards right now.
        > it's pretty bad as a wargame, so have fun with the role playing.
        Yeah, i'm too new to understand whats wrong with it, but i really enjoy this TTRPG thing, and it's pretty popular at my uni (most profs play something), so i'm sure i'll get into it to the point i'll be embarassed one day that i played 5e. Regardless, the RP is a lot of fun.
        >And get your DM a better gf, but not before the campaign is done.
        KEK, thats good advice. Well find him some one better.

        >Even so, could you give me a quick rundown of why 5e is shit?
        nta, but a personal take is largely that, 5e has a few things to offer
        >A framework for roleplaying fantasy adventures
        Literally any game could do this
        >A tactical miniatures combat experience
        It's one of the worst I've ever played
        >A wide community of existing enthusiasts and secondary content
        Nothing else has it better
        So at the end of the day it just boils down to 'the game part of the game doesn't do anything I care about remotely well.' ymmv.

        Ok, that makes sense, thank you.

        >quick rundown
        • Caster supremacy.
        • Inconsistent mechanics in terms of level of detail compared to each other.
        • Kitchen sink in terms of the implicit setting and mechanics with no attempt at cohesion or consistency.
        • Mechanics that don't deliver the connotations of the words they use.
        • Powers that are described as being different, but using the same resource.
        • Redundant overlap of "skills".
        • Reliance on luck, with many non-magical things heavily relying on DM grace.
        • "Skills" are just attributes with another name.

        Aha, so over all you say the game is shallow compared to other TTRPGs. That makes sense.
        Some of my friends are kind of normies though. Do you think it may be a good idea to start with the simplest game just to get into it, and then later it will be easyer to get the more complicated better games?

        I really like your paintings bro. Nice job.

        The joy of the game is the company you keep not any heady discussion on rules.

        Have fun.

        Thanks anon. The company, the group is really good. Old firends, girlfriends, new friends... and we seem to play well together. Lot of laughter, lot of discussion.. we all seem to enjoy it quite a bit.
        Pic kind of related, i'm makeing green burning candles to set the mood next time.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Shallow, and woefully unbalanced, and inconsistent, yes. Also, I was making a judgement on its own parameters, not comparing it to other games, as I mentioned in

          I also forgot to mention my disdain for D&D has nothing to do with 3e; I've only seen 5e, and have examined these observable flaws without bias. These flaws are as measurable as the sun's solar energy; you might even say, at risk of triggering someone, they're objective.

          .
          >Do you think it may be a good idea to start with the simplest game just to get into it, and then later it will be [easier] to get the more complicated better games?
          The simplest game would be "Lasers and Feelings", or any of its derivatives, as it's a one-page RPG with heavy focus on narrative direction. It's legitimately worth a look. There's absolutely nothing wrong with simple. Start simple, stay simple, or move onto another RPG later.
          My issue with D&D is the insistence that it's a quality product when it's so obvious that very little effort was put into its design, which is why I state the numerous observable flaws with it as relevant.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Huh, ok, that makes sense. Whats your opinion on pathfinder? Or a better question: what is the best sword and sorcery TTRPG?
            Over all, the reason i'm playing 5e is simple: i asked around if anyone was starting any TTRPG campaignes for beginners, and this dude was the only one who said yes. He said he runs 5e, and he would DM for us, or we could join an existing game.
            So my choices were playing online, 5e or not getting into it.
            Once i'm no longer a total beginner, and as i get to know the others at uni who play, i'm sure i'll have a lot more options.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Once i'm no longer a total beginner, and as i get to know the others at uni who play, i'm sure i'll have a lot more options.
              It's plausible a few people may play other games, but most people play 5e
              >What is the best sword and sorcery RPG?
              This depends entirely on what you want. I run fantasy in GURPS because i have brain damage. Pathfinder is basically alternate D&D, as are most games. For something with a lot of specific tone and crunch, Riddle of Steel or its successors are usually the way to go. If you want something lighter, you'll have to ask somebody else because I don't really care about those.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >pathfinder
              I've heard mixed things about it, but no practical experience. From what I hear, it shares similar problems with D&D, but is a little deeper in terms of mechanics.
              >what is the best sword and sorcery TTRPG
              I have no idea. When I first started pointing out flaws with D&D, I'd often be met with "rewrite what you don't like" as a deflection, and I've seen people say that isn't unique to D&D, so rather than look at what other games are doing, I just decided to make what I do like and focus on keeping things consistent.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Pic kind of related, i'm makeing green burning candles to set the mood next time
          That's really cool anon. Going above and beyond there.

          >Do you think it may be a good idea to start with the simplest game just to get into it, and then later it will be easyer to get the more complicated better games?
          Not the anon you replied to but yeah, one of the advantages of 5e is how easy it is for newbies to get the hang of.
          That said, it's definitely not the simplest of rpgs. As the other guy mentioned there are rules-light rpgs out there with only a page or two of rules. Personally I think 5e is way better than any of them, that degree of simplicity is not what I'm interested it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Home chem is another hobby, but honestly i'm just really enjoying the summer and this kind of gives a direction to other hobbies like the painting, the chem, the drawing.
            >easy it is for newbies to get the hang of
            I'm fairly certaine i could have jumped into any game, i'm willing to do the reading. But my girlfriend is a normie (as much as a shy weird STEM student can be), and my elementary school friend is into RPGs on PC, but he has a lower attention span. So an easy entry is pretty much a must for this group.

            >Once i'm no longer a total beginner, and as i get to know the others at uni who play, i'm sure i'll have a lot more options.
            It's plausible a few people may play other games, but most people play 5e
            >What is the best sword and sorcery RPG?
            This depends entirely on what you want. I run fantasy in GURPS because i have brain damage. Pathfinder is basically alternate D&D, as are most games. For something with a lot of specific tone and crunch, Riddle of Steel or its successors are usually the way to go. If you want something lighter, you'll have to ask somebody else because I don't really care about those.

            The head of the evolutionary biology department runs 3e games, but he doesn't take beginners. I know of one other group who play 3.5 but not only do they not take beginners, but they are.. opnely political far left people, and i just don't want politics in hobby time.
            I may ask around out side of the biology building, im 100% sure the nerds in the physics and chem buildings run some games.
            >GURPS
            Interesting, i didn't know this existed, but i may read up on it more
            >Riddle of Steel
            This actually looks really good at first glance.

            >pathfinder
            I've heard mixed things about it, but no practical experience. From what I hear, it shares similar problems with D&D, but is a little deeper in terms of mechanics.
            >what is the best sword and sorcery TTRPG
            I have no idea. When I first started pointing out flaws with D&D, I'd often be met with "rewrite what you don't like" as a deflection, and I've seen people say that isn't unique to D&D, so rather than look at what other games are doing, I just decided to make what I do like and focus on keeping things consistent.

            >I just decided to make what I do like and focus on keeping things consistent.
            That makes sense.

            Finished the backside of all the spelllcards, since im lvl1 wizard its 3 cantrips and 6 lvl 1 spells. Took me like 2 days. And i'm still working on the text on the far side.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That's cool. Most spaces I've been through it's 5e or bust it seems, so I'm glad you have options.
              I can explain GURPS basic stuff if you're interested.
              I'd offer for TRoS but I haven't done anything with it in like eight years and don't remember a damned thing of substance.

              On the other guys note, I've often found D&D hard to get beginners into because too much of the mechanical rationale is explained with "because that's just how it is in this game." Which for some people they'll be onboard with, and it'll set a lot of total beginners adrift. Depends.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I can explain GURPS basic stuff if you're interested.
                Sure, sounds interesting. It's ome kind of general rule set you can use for any world you designe. Right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Basically. It has a certain tone to it, like any game does, of course, so It's not as good for 'anything,' as it claims, but it's fairly versatile.
                It's predicated on some level of realism. A guy's HP isn't based on 'level' it's based on how big he is to determine how injured he gets in comparison, so most characters never exceed maybe 18 HP. Stuff like that.
                System's 3d6 roll under vs TN+Mods. If we have bow 16, and a guy's at range -6, and the bow's accuracy is +3, we roll trying to get under 13. Easy enough.
                If he sees us shooting at him, he may try to roll under his dodge or block to intercept the attack. Combined with armor reducing damage directly, that's most of how you don't die, instead of just losing nebulous 'will to continue fighting points.'
                Attacks take longer to resolve than D&D, but fights tend to go faster because when you stab someone hard enough, they tend to collapse and start bleeding out.
                Mostly i play it for the combat being such, and having options. A beginning fighter with no 'special moves,' still has a lot of potential options to influence a fight. And with some supplementary material, active defenses can even be used fairly aggressively, or to set up ripostes, so you have things you can actually accomplish when it's not your turn.
                The other thing I stick with it for is character generation. Both because I'd much rather design my own characters, and because I hate being stuck with abilities I don't care about because 'that's just what your guy does.'

                Have a (somewhat outdated) character sheet. If one with all the bells and whistles. I've generally found people either find these fascinating or recoil in horror, and there's your answer on whether GURPS is for you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This actually looks really interesting. I like the idea that HP doesn't really increase and is based on what and how big you are. The secondary abiities and location based damage also seem cool. I also like the diferent categories of skills.
                Over all looks really interesting, but definitely not something my normie girlfriend or semi normal friend would have picked up as easely as 5e.
                These character sheets i find exciting because of all the options, but just with the simple character sheet of 5e it took our beginner party 8-9 hours to set things up and grasp the basics.
                So this is something i'll remember, bookmark and get back to in like a year or two when we have tried 5e and 3e.
                Thanks for the suggestion.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Totally reasonable.
                I find it easier on beginners than it looks since everything flows sensibly.
                "To attack, we roll a D20 and add modifiers. these will be your classes proficiency bonus, plus your attribute bonus for strength, or your one for dexterity, if your weapon has the Finesse tag, and tell the GM the final number."
                vs
                "Roll under what it says next to 'Sword.' Which is the number you bought directly for swording, and tell me yes or no."
                Modifiers complicate things somewhat, and your mileage may vary, of course, but just my experience with the actual play.
                Character generation, though, will generally melt normies heads unless you handhold them through it. No argument there.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                haha, now that you mention it, this does sound much more manageable.
                But yeah, wthi the character creation, we would need a DM experienced in this system. I'll ask around, maybe the physics boys or the chem guys have someone who plays this system.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    And this one says "by the word of the dragon i command the gods" and "level one".
    I bough black cardboard and whit pens to do this in real life as the back side of spellcards.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I got some good advice
    Clearly you didn't.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How so?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        • This is a thread, instead of a series of posts in the /5eg/.
        • This is a thread on a board for all tabletop games, instead of on a site or board devoted exclusively to D&D 5e discussion.
        • You have continued to play D&D 5e since, and plan to do so more.
        Clearly, you received no good advice.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I honestly can't wait to try 3e to find out why people hate 5e so much. I'm so new to this, that all this waring is meaningless to me, but i'm sure when the time comes, i'll get what you are talking about.
          Even so, could you give me a quick rundown of why 5e is shit?
          Also, sorry for not knowing the rules and conventions of /tg/, i am new here.

          Honestly, some of the verbose descriptions might be BECAUSE it is the first few sessions. Especially if he's describing a place you can expect to return to a fair bit often.

          It sounds like everyone is still finding their place, but that there are no glaring issues. The DM's girlfriend might become one, but that's only "might".

          If you keep going with what you've all got, and you're willing to talk to the DM about issues, I suspect you'll all be just fine.

          Thanks for the answer, i hope you are right. So far it has been a lot of fun, and unless she starts like hitting him, the weirdness of DMs girlfriend is probably not much of a problem.

          That painting is actually really good.
          I think it would be more enriching for you to focus on your craft, as you're already capable of making quality work, instead of wasting your time playing garbage TTRPGs and shitting up the board for all games with inane bullshit.

          "My craft"... thanks anon, but i'm a geneticist, my craft is not painting. It's just one of like 8 hobbies. Which is why i'm shit at it, jack of all trades, master of none.
          >shitting up the board
          ...

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Also, sorry for not knowing the rules and conventions of /tg/, i am new here.
            You're not breaking anything rules or conventions. In the past week or so a handful (at least I hope its not one person spending all their time on it) of dedicated autists have taken it as their sacred duty to act as self-appointed jannies, shitting on any thread that mentions dnd outside the general. Its seriously pathetic.

            Thanks anon. So far, i have really enjoyed it. The RP is a lot like acting, and its a lot of fun, we have not laughed this much in a while.
            Can you explain to me why 3.5 is better? Everyone says its better, and i'm just curious why. I mean i believe you, you have experience, which i don't. Maybe we can convince the DM to switch systems for the next game. Or maybe we can join a 3.5 game later on down the line.

            Not sure I can really explain it but I'll try.
            My group tried 5e for a bit and we found it kinda shallow. This came across in a few different ways.
            >The binary nature of advantage (vs 3.5e's stacking of modifiers) and the limited impact of combat manuevers like shove made it hard for us to play meaningful tactics or for our DM to come up with tactically stimulating encounters
            >It felt like there was very little choice in designing your characters past the first few levels - you pick an archetype and maybe a few feats or multiclass and that's it. Most oath of vengeance paladins will feel very similar to any other oath of vengeance paladin for example
            >The skill system felt very underdeveloped and there wasn't much scope for designing interesting non-combat encounters.
            Our GM also said he didn't think it had as robust an underlying framework which made it harder to houserule on the fly.
            Its definitely simpler but that simplicity comes at the cost of fewer options.

            That being said, while I absolutely prefer 3.5, I can see how the breadth of options and the fairly significant balance problems could scare off new players (the balance problems in particular are non-issues with a group or just a DM who knows what they're doing but otherwise it's possible for a newbie playing a druid to accidentally make his buddy playing a monk feel like a total chump).
            In any case, quality of the system comes a very distant second to quality of your group. I'd much rather play 5e with my mates than 3.5e with randoms.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >shitting up the board
            Your thread is 1 of the 25 explicitly D&D threads among the 150 allowed on this board. If you had a room comprised of 1 part fecal matter per 7, that room would be "shit up." So yeah, these threads are definitely shitting up the board.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >no u shit up bord moar
              I'm not the one making a new thread every time my character takes a shit. I'm not even making threads. I'm not even going into the D&D hugbox generals. Can you guess where a good place to avoid me and people who agree with me could possibly be?

              If dnd is what people want to talk about then so be it, that's just the way things are.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If D&D is what people here want to shit on, then so be it. That's just the way things are.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Even so, could you give me a quick rundown of why 5e is shit?
            nta, but a personal take is largely that, 5e has a few things to offer
            >A framework for roleplaying fantasy adventures
            Literally any game could do this
            >A tactical miniatures combat experience
            It's one of the worst I've ever played
            >A wide community of existing enthusiasts and secondary content
            Nothing else has it better
            So at the end of the day it just boils down to 'the game part of the game doesn't do anything I care about remotely well.' ymmv.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >quick rundown
            • Caster supremacy.
            • Inconsistent mechanics in terms of level of detail compared to each other.
            • Kitchen sink in terms of the implicit setting and mechanics with no attempt at cohesion or consistency.
            • Mechanics that don't deliver the connotations of the words they use.
            • Powers that are described as being different, but using the same resource.
            • Redundant overlap of "skills".
            • Reliance on luck, with many non-magical things heavily relying on DM grace.
            • "Skills" are just attributes with another name.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I also forgot to mention my disdain for D&D has nothing to do with 3e; I've only seen 5e, and have examined these observable flaws without bias. These flaws are as measurable as the sun's solar energy; you might even say, at risk of triggering someone, they're objective.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds good, Anon. I'm glad you had fun. Your GM sounds okay. Is he new at this? As always, you need to TALK to him about your concerns (like his overly verbose descriptions): that's the onlly way he will improve. As for his GF, you might have to weather her a little longer; it sounds like she will get bored soon and leave. If she gets disruptive and actively hampers your enjoyment, then once again raise your concerns with your GM.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm glad you had fun
      Thanks, i know most people join this kind of thing as teens or even earlyer, so i'm sure it's a bit weird that were joining at around 25, but i had a hell of a lot of fun yelling, and playing m semimoronic character.
      >Your GM sounds okay. Is he new at this?
      No, i think he has been doing this for quite a while.
      >As always, you need to TALK to him about your concerns (like his overly verbose descriptions)
      Makes sense, but i think i'll wait atleast one or two more sessions to see if it gets better. I don't want to be a dick to him. But i get what you are saying, and will put it in the options tab.
      >As for his GF, you might have to weather her a little longer; it sounds like she will get bored soon and leave. If she gets disruptive and actively hampers your enjoyment, then once again raise your concerns with your GM.
      Honestly, she's not muxh of a bother, to me atleast. I mean she doesn't do anything and seems bored, but i can paly just fine. I just feel sorry for the DM. I mean this is his girlfriend, she should be supportive, or not come. Right? I know it's none of my buisness, it just feels weird.

      [...]
      These are cool, I like goetic imagery too. Mind if I steal these to use for my own spellcard backings?

      Nah, man, feel free to use them. There is this website that translates english to draconic, and there are pics with draconic alphabet out there. So if you want to personalize the script, that can make it even better.
      Also, it's fun to dick around with the different shapes.
      The materials (including a new compass that can hold a felt tip pen, and a ruler and scizors) to actually make around 20 cards cost me like 15 dollars worth of local money.
      Pic related, the first finished product

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, some of the verbose descriptions might be BECAUSE it is the first few sessions. Especially if he's describing a place you can expect to return to a fair bit often.

        It sounds like everyone is still finding their place, but that there are no glaring issues. The DM's girlfriend might become one, but that's only "might".

        If you keep going with what you've all got, and you're willing to talk to the DM about issues, I suspect you'll all be just fine.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just posting to second this guy's post. I'm glad you had fun, rpgs are great no matter when you start. I recently introduced a few of my mates from med school to dnd (3.5e though as that's my preference) and we're all in our mid-20s, they're having a great time.
      If you for the DMs descriptions or anything else start to bother you then speak up but it's reasonable to wait a bit for everyone to find their feet first.

      That painting is actually really good.
      I think it would be more enriching for you to focus on your craft, as you're already capable of making quality work, instead of wasting your time playing garbage TTRPGs and shitting up the board for all games with inane bullshit.

      Your pathetic campaign against dnd is a waste of time and shits up the board more than if you were to just focus on encouraging positive discourse in the threads you enjoy.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks anon. So far, i have really enjoyed it. The RP is a lot like acting, and its a lot of fun, we have not laughed this much in a while.
        Can you explain to me why 3.5 is better? Everyone says its better, and i'm just curious why. I mean i believe you, you have experience, which i don't. Maybe we can convince the DM to switch systems for the next game. Or maybe we can join a 3.5 game later on down the line.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >no u shit up bord moar
        I'm not the one making a new thread every time my character takes a shit. I'm not even making threads. I'm not even going into the D&D hugbox generals. Can you guess where a good place to avoid me and people who agree with me could possibly be?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >just focus on encouraging positive discourse in the threads you enjoy
        Not that Anon, but discourse doesn't result from my encouragement, it's just everyone yelling their ideas into a void with no interaction with one another.
        Even when I do engage, it's usually just them elaborating more on their own idea, without returning the favor.
        Or shit like pic related happens.
        So sure, I guess having unreciprocal interest in 10 threads out of the 140 I have hidden at a given time is a valid solution. If only that had been a solution for the one or two homosexuals who killed quests, but frick consistent standards.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That painting is actually really good.
    I think it would be more enriching for you to focus on your craft, as you're already capable of making quality work, instead of wasting your time playing garbage TTRPGs and shitting up the board for all games with inane bullshit.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Be the change you want to see" is such a good solution.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It totally isn't a deflection and dismissal to evade criticism. The threads you want will totally improve things around here.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not a deflection at all.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The state of the board and quality of discussion sure is improved by threads that die before even 30 replies.
          I am in awe at the sheer sagacity of the irrefutable and infallible advice.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really like your paintings bro. Nice job.

    The joy of the game is the company you keep not any heady discussion on rules.

    Have fun.

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