>NVIDIA might have a problem with some RTX 4090 catching fire
>Two redditors report that their RTX 4090 graphics cards are now dead, and melted power connectors might be the reason why.
https://videocardz.com/newz/first-users-report-nvidia-rtx-4090-gpus-with-melted-16-pin-power-connectors
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>paying $1600 to set your house on fire
I thought it was amazing when they were getting people to pat just $400 for that service.
huh?
Graphics cards used to be much cheaper and some were known for having fire issues.
>two redditors who must consoom got what they deserve
good
Tic toc, gamers
im not a europoor
WHO THE FRICK NEEDS 8K JESUS
Even 4k games are often just upscaled now and not actually that much sharper.
Bro holy shit just like with phones who needs a 4k 120hz display on a fricking phone.
There are real applications for 8k, but not really for video games. 8k makes sense for very large tvs like 85”. Previously, if you wanted an in-home theater you had to look to projectors.
>WHO THE FRICK NEEDS 8K JESUS
It's not about needs eurocuck.
It's about wants.
Phone manufacturers have simply run out of ideas so they just push resolutions and refresh rates up
>Phone manufacturers have simply run out of ideas
Has the fold been fixed now?
4 version is more durable with better battery
Okay, but has the fold been fixed, though?
Watch reviews. It's less noticable, especially to the touch, but I don't think it will ever stop existing.
As long as the crease is still there, i'm not interested.
You mean the crease? Because the folding mechanism itself never had a problem outside of some bad eggs. Some chinese manufacturers mostly solved the crease with a teardrop shaped fold but the hinges aren't as durable and they're not rated for water and dust proofing
The tried this like 3 times before they got a passable result and even then it's still overpriced and shit
Yes. Just like the last 5 years of phone development they've just been making everything into a continually larger phablet to support new battery sizes for the insane power draw. The clamshell designs actually use two batteries.
>The clamshell designs actually use two batteries.
No they don't.
Well the Samsung Fold 4 certainly fricking does
Flip doesn't for sure.
Are we going back to flip phones ?
Hopefully
Video editors if they have hardware that can work with it. Allows them to zoom in a bit while editing and still get 4k.
>if you dont buy now you wont be able to
keep believing those lies and buying shit
Frick Samsung, frick LG, frick Hisense, frick Vizio, Frick Sony, frick them all. Turn off the stupid box, live your life, touch grass. Unironically.
Gonna start eating grass soon eurocucks.
Healthier than corn syrup.
Better source of energy when the nukes drop.
Graphics prostitutes btfo
Lmao I thought these new oled tv's were ment to be efficient as frick?
after like 40 years of electronic designers targeting smaller and more efficient designs they've finally asked "why" and gone all out making moronic shit targeting whales
They're efficient, but not enough to fit in the stupid boxes the laws specify.
But they'll just do like everything else and fudge endgoals around the requirements, completely defeating the point.
EG: My speaker system needs to consume less than 1 watt in standby mode to fit the rules. It wouldn't pass, so it just doesn't have a standby mode and goes at full power all the time - this is fine and passes the rules.
>8k
And nothing of value was lost.
wonder how many boomers are gonna buy this only to plug in their cable box with composite cables
EU:
>we're so ahead of the curb with renewable energy, we're closing all of our coal plants!
Also EU:
>we can't generate enough electricity! we're banning everything you enjoy that uses it!
No that's wrong it's more like:
>We are so stupid that we let KGB to lobby for gas pipelines that we will grow completely dependent on and shutting down all our nuclear power that's the only actual stable and profitable green energy
Hey, not all of us are Germany
Everyone is saying how it’s shilling, but you really can’t see the EU doing this shit? The TV loiscense gestapo just gained another foothold over your freedoms.
We’re achieving nightmare-mode at levels never before conceived.
The moronic masses don't care. They love what the eu is doing. The stupid weak disgusting feebleminded masses have never deserved anything more than to be brutally subjugated and enslaved.
thank fricking god.
Remember when PC gaming was about saving a lot of electricity while getting the best fricking performance?
>Remember when PC gaming was about saving a lot of electricity while getting the best fricking performance?
I don't, since electricity is dirt cheap in my country. It's always was about power. It was really weird, when I found out people give a frick about saving electricity.
>muh TV
calm down grandpa
EEWW wants you to buy a 4k and a new panel oven instead BECAUSE IT SAVES ENERGY
also replace all your light bulbs with LED even though the rooms with lights on are the same you want heated anyway THINK OF THE ENVIRONMENT
Have we reached the end of the line for GPU tech? They transistors aren't going to get much smaller so its just going to need more power from now on.
>Computers start out as big as rooms
>Parts get stronger and smaller
>Computers start to shrink
>Cant make parts smaller anymore
>Make parts big again to make them stronger
>Computers become big as rooms again
Xbox Series X3 is an actual 1000w fridge.
Yeah it sounds like we need a breakthrough soon
>Pictured RTX 5090
So that's their plan - selling gaming hardware with attached housing units
Would be kind of cool to have my entire basement filled with a single super computer just to play hyper dimensional realistic video games.
>hyper dimensional realistic video games.
metaverse lookin sweet
>born just in time to live inside your next GPU
cloud computing is unfortunately the future and it sucks. i am going to miss owning my own hardware.
you will be happy
as long as it costs no more than 10 bucks a month i might be
Cloud computing is the future and always will be.
Lol no wonder why evga is left they probably knew this shit gonna happen
we did it amdsirs
amd lost the coom wars, their cards are worse for the ai porn.
i cant wait for people to die from home fires due to this.
rude
richgays btfo
Nvidia, not even once.
user error, the connectors were either loose or bent improperly
you're too late
Even my 590 didnt actually melt
At the moment it seems like there is no good reason to have anything past a 3000 series card. I'll probably just never upgrade again.
I'm still on my 2080ti. Guess im waiting for the 5090 bros
Ive got a 1060 and can still play everything up to and including games released this year
Honestly, a decent mid range card can last you 4 to 6 years
I was playing the witcher 3 on a 460 2GB card. Locked to 30 FPS but it still ran.
I miss my 460. Such a good card
If you're gonna build a PC wait for Q1 or Q2 of next year anyway. AMD will drop the 3d cache versions of their processors and blow the dick off Raptor Lake, and prices will be good.
Also might be enough time for a die-shrink or better OEM versions of the 4000 series. If people don't cuck out and buy the remaining 3000s and don't buy 4000s, Nvidia will be hurting enough to probably do an actual fire sale on both. They've flat out said in earnings calls they're sitting on tons of 3000/4000 stock to prevent sell-through because cryptomining fell into the toilet
Lol amd ain't gonna do shit. Competition now just means that you get the same product or near same product for the same price or a couple of paltry dollars less. And nvidia are insane fricking israelites, they'll literally just sit on their 30 and 40 series stock for years if they have to, they don't give a single frick because they know that the stupid moronic masses will buy their goyslop anyways.
I wonder if EVGA saw this problem coming and didn't want to deal with the impending fallout.
yes
You cant disconnect those cables more than 20 times or else your house burns down, literally. I think its a serious issue that was barely mentioned.
Why would they design this card with 1x16pin connector instead of 2x8pin like the 30xx cards? They would have been better off making it 3x8pin instead of 1x16pin. Too much current going through one connector causes it to melt.
1x16-pin can do 600W while 2x8-pin is like 300W and 3x8-pin is 450W
>It's very important that you don't utilize cables as intended because we're too fricking moronic to design our hardware properly.
????
They didn't design the new connector. PCI-SIG created the new connector. Its rated up to 600W max. If someone were to overclock the card above that then that's probably why it might be happening. But its most likely from people using non ATX 3.0 PSU.
It costs $1700 and they can't afford to add a cable?
For one that would only work with modular PSUs, but there's no standardization for moduluar PSU cables. They're all different, sometimes even within a brand.
>For one that would only work with modular PSUs
Huh? Just add connector from standard 16 pin to nvidia made gpu connector with tube for part that shouldn't be bended and a simple lock.
They just cheaped out, they are going to 100% have to rectify this with right angled connectors that have a proper right angle block on them that seats properly, this is 100% a shit connector with a shit placement that encourages this problem.
nvidia back to their old ways i see
im on reddit (yeah i know, lol ) but frick me there are tons of users reporting this.
NVIDIA is FRICKED, AMD has the same connector, THEY ARE FRICKED
link?
its on that thread that has like 2500 comments on the nvidia sub, cant be that many 40 series cards in the wild and there are at least half a dozen people reporting it.
/r/nvidia/comments/yc6g3u/rtx_4090_adapter_burned/
Has AMD released anything yet? I've been out of the loop since I'm pretty happy with my 3070+M10 combo.
IF AMD hasn't released anything yet, they can avoid this shit at a cost. Recalling shit from other companies is going to be much less painful than dealing with the house fires.
People on the sub seem to think the new AMD cards have the same connector.
Perhaps the gauge isnt good enough for the amps being pulled because of the high draw in watts of the cards, this is compounded by the fragility of the tiny connector, thus issues are way more likely to arise if the cable/connector is strained in any way, its probably like the NZXT H1 issue, its not that it will burn, and generally its actually pretty safe, but if there is any user divergence from the way its officially meant to be installed it could lead to fire.
They might have to recall the adaptors for right angle ones or something at the very least, unless this is an issue like the connectors on the board instead, could be a ton of cards affected.
Ive seen solar setups ship out with cables only fit for 100amps / 12v and yet somebody connects up a 200ah / 12v battery with a 2000w / 12 inverter and then cranks the load to like 1850w.. pulling over 160 amps on a cable thats only rated for 100amps, bad time.
I wonder if the connector is not seating right and the high draw is melting the connectors, unironically might have been better just putting 4x 8 pins on it instead, at least its spreading the load at the GPU side, Rails on the PSU is a different matter.
I bought a 4090 so I can run um
UHHH
continue shitposting on Ganker while imagining what I COULD be playing
>Intel was one of the colaboratiors that designed that shit connector
>They didn't use it on their cards
Sneaky fricking Intel.
HOW DO I TRI FORCE
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▲ ▲
teach me
early adopter morons are the first to hang
>fermi memes all over again
can't wait for the housefires
How it's even possible to make a shit hardware for this fricking price? Samsung 1k$ phone have a fricking bendable display. Meanwhile 1.6k gpu can't make simple connectors.
I will let you guys know if mine burned too
>buy a $1600 graphics card
>still can't stop browsing Ganker
videogames
Why do I keep seeing people blaming the consumer for not knowing that you can't bend the cable even slightly?
Shills and brandslaves
Corposimps
How do you NOT bend PSU cables anyway?
RTX 4090
>Hits CPU limits so you can't push frame rates further at lower resolutions
>Easily goes beyond 4k 100 FPS on most modern games
Who is this FOR
>Easily goes beyond 4k 100 FPS on most modern games
and ships with displayport version that caps out at 120hz 4k 10bit, this card is a fricking disaster.
can aftermarket cards fix this?
No, because the output is tied to all the signal circuitry put into the board. If this was 2005 and Nvidia still let board partners mix and match specs for competition's sake then you might get a deluxe 4090 with better displayport. Now Nvidia locks down all the final specs. The most the partners can do is give a light overclock and extra outputs of the exact same type as standard.
>buys $1600 GPU to post on reddit
ITT: a bunch of Europeans cope about the fact that their unelected representatives keep restricting their freedoms.
Europoors don't even have electricity
Yeah. Buildzoid made a video on it.
Basically if the cable isn't perfectly straight, the connector will be crooked and cause massive overheating.
>verge_howtobuildapc.avi
Its pulling upto 50amps through that tiny connector, if some of the pins dont seat well, those tiny gauge wires are going to fricking melt, what a shit fricking connector design, why they didnt stick with 4x 8 pin i dont know, redesign it when cards need more than 675watts which they can get from 4x8 pins and the slot.
absolute disaster of a GPU generation with forced upgrades, the only real solutions are right angle connectors, connect redesigns, sku change to 3x and 4x 8 pins instead, or buy a new 300 dollar PSU, even if you already have a 1000w or 1200w or 1600w psu, top spec this gen is 500 dollar motherboards 700 dollar cpus, 300 dollar power supply and 2000 dollar gpus, $3500 builds not including coolers, drives or ram.
Its like they are deliberately trying to force people onto consoles with DRM and meme streaming, YOU WILL OWN NOTHING.
Also these connectors are so shit they're rated to ~20 insertions
Virtually all molex mating pins are rated for 30 connections moron. Your PCI-E connectors are no different. The interlocking plastic assembly might be rated for more but the actual electrical pins that are crimped on are only rated for 30 because that's the only thing Molex will guarantee from a genuine product. Also, your PCI-E slot is only rated for 50 cycles. The only thing this revealed is that moronic hypochondriacs shouldn't be allowed on the internet
tbf, i think thats the same rating with fan connectors and molex. Granted they dont shove 50amps down the tiny cables though.
Buildzoid is also a mentally ill schizo who thinks you need massive overbuilt VRMs that handle 500A for a CPU that pulls 140W max and shit talks motherboards over it, and now surprise surprise every motherboard advertises ridiculous VRMs while costing substantially more. He's not a totally sane individual
Buildzoid only talks about those in the context of doing liquid nitrogen overclocking and he's very open about that fact. He always starts and ends by saying you can ignore his advice if you're just going to run the parts on air or water cooling.
Put me in the screencap.
works on my machi
For those with a brain that undervolt and bring the consumption down to sub-400W is the connector still a fire hazard?
no but why bother? Just buy a 30 or 20 series gpu instead
Because a 4090 power limited down to even 300W still obliterates any Ampere card and has way better perf/W, AV1 encode, DLSS3, etc
Yes but as pointed out above, for what purpose? It hits CPU limits and it only works with displayport 1.4a which also inhibits its performance. I would agree with you for productivity maybe.
The cables are not really the issue, they are fine with 600w, probably rated for 700 or 800, its the connector, its shit for upto 50amps, its not rugged enough, bending the cables close to the connector results in pins not aligning properly causing issues with current at the connectors, thus causing a fire.
The cheapest fix is basically either shipping a way more durable connector that cant bend, or a right angle one, because part of the issue is people bending the cables because the cards are so fricking wide they dont fit in peoples cases, bad connector location is a factor.
Just like game developers gave up on optimization so did GPU makers.
>buy a 3070 ti
>get worse performance than I did with my 2070
I hate Nvidia so much.
Sounds like you failed really hard at installing a GPU
You fricked up somewhere because that should not happen
what's the matter, too poor to buy a new card every month?
I just remembered didn't nvidia rush the 3k line out the door due to thermal issues with the 2k line? The engineers aren't putting enough thought into all the heat their memetracing shit is causing..
In all fairness the coolers, cables and everything is well above spec, the cables are not going to melt pulling 50amps, the issue is the connector is fricking shit, and if the pins dont bite properly that 50amps at 12v is a fricking fire harzard, they should never have used such a shitty small, feeble connector for 50 amps at 12v, its all made worse by the fact the cards are specced to 600w which they dont need and are so wide that the side facing connector encourages people to jam it in the slot, causing a higher probability of the pins not connecting properly, potentially causing a fire.
No games
I dont know why
I bought a 4090 and power supply
Keep that in mind as the temps growin' high
flames up to the sky
~ I didn't know
Google chrome is a demanding thang
watch the vram mining bitcoin for Huang
watching sparks fly and I still dont know why
all steam games I buy
~ never get played
>we are 2 generations away from home PCs being an arc flash hazard
Stop kvetching and just buy it!
I don't even like Nvidia but I have to assume this is user error with an adapter for the 12VHPWR plug. Because it's not nearly as foolproof as it should be for something that runs 600W into a $1600 piece of hardware.
>Because it's not nearly as foolproof as it should be for something that runs 600W
Yep, 100%, the wattage isnt really that big of a deal either tbf, you could run thousands of watts through a cable and connector that thin, it just cant have the amps so high, they could easily run a 1000w GPU on the connector if the voltage was like 24 or 48v on the connector instead, probably be safer, GPU would have to change the voltage on the board though
A good example is look at low voltage high amp connections on marine, camping, solar and vehicle connections, they all have screws and bolts, and heavy gauge wire, granted most of them might be pulling a few kilowatt, but 50amp at 12v is space heater territory literally a single bar electric heater is about 500-600w, 48v at 50amp is 2.4kw, enough to power a hotplate, or two industrial 1200w microwaves
The connector is a joke, they fricked up, its not consumer friendly for its use case.
No matter what timeline or what year let it be known that Nvidia will, in fact, burn your house down.
The AIB cards are TOO BIG for most cases and you CANNOT bend the cable or it will damage it's inside
Basically, if you can't respect this, you need a bigger case and maybe a vertical mounting too, or you gonna get an housefire
some of the reddit guys with melted connectors have vertical mounts, the weight of the cable adapters u bends the cable and weakens the connections on the connector causing the problem too. nvidia used a connector that isnt upto the expected durability consumers expect from GPU power connectors
Or maybe they should design thicker and better quality cables
Maybe next gen 🙂
But also blame Nvdia for not telling anyone shit and now all the manufacturers needed to rush out their own designs because they had cards to sell
Nvdia, FRICK YOU
Just buy an aftermarket plug like lmao why are you complaining just buy it lul
I can see these plugs becomming standard soon so you can't just work around not having an ugly as frick L bent
That doesn't stop it from exploding and burning down your house moron.
If the issue is with the cable itself being bent so that the contact of the plugs isn't consistent, then actually yes it will, because there isn't going to be any leveraged strain.
no it doesn't israelite, no matter how much JIDF shilling you do nobody is going to believe it, intel israelites fricked up the cable and rushed it out the door.
Own up to your mistake israelite pedo
Nvidia is a major contributor to the spec as well.
It actually does though, because the issue is the connector and the strain on it caused by bending cables changing the power delivery through the connector causing the short/melting
It probably has L shaped pins inside the adapter, solving the problem as the force on the connector is more evenly distributed
>only protrudes 23mm
>spec says DO NOT BEND until 35mm
The AIB cards are TOO BIG for most cases and you CANNOT bend the cable or it will damage it's inside
Basically, if you can't respect this, you need a bigger case and maybe a vertical mounting too, or you gonna get an housefire
That is a failure in the making
The cable plugs into the bottom of the plug. There's no harsh bending of the cable with this.
that protudes already stops you from being able to bend it at all, this is the part that you can't bend
It's not a cable. The cablemods right angle connector is a PCB board that breaks out the traces onto two through-hole mounted connectors
this has already been posted twice in this thread anon
Doesn't this happen with literally every video card? Feels like any time a new card is released someone makes this thread.
Miss me with this shit - imma break spec and run fine because 8pins are overdesigned.
>dual gpu die card
Yeah I'm thinking based.
>Remember when PC gaming was about saving a lot of electricity while getting the best fricking performance?
No.
I see no problem here, the article is about 16 pin connectors. Those 12 pin connectors are fine.
nvidia has come a full circle with their housefires
Do you think EVGA will work with AMD or Intel now?
EVGA said they have no plans to partner with anyone else in the GPU business. They're out of that market entirely.
why though
they made the best looking cards
GPUs have abysmal profit margins, and nVidia's constant jerking around of AIBs made them sour on the market on the whole.
true
are we going to hit a brick wall with GPUs then? silicon costs are already astronomical
No, it's quite clear nVidia is setting itself up to completely eliminate AIBs on the whole, and be both manufacturer and supplier of their GPUs, a la Apple and their products. Can't say if AMD will go the same way or not, they haven't really shown any signs of going down that path. Yet.
pc gayming, lmao. The ultimate keks with their no game ownership and overpriced dead bricks
Only pirates own games, cope and dilate however you want.
Post specs.
>Laptop
opinion instantly discarded
There's nothing wrong with laptops, it's not 2004 anymore, they're much better now.
>There's nothing wrong with laptops,
>3050 mobile
i hope you didn't pay more than $700 for that
It's the full power 85 watt variant. And I paid ~$800, worth it since it came with a 6800h.
FERMI IS BACK
THE HOUSEFIRE MEME NEVER ENDS
So business as usual?