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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >design is objectively worse
    every time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not op but please tell me what about this you think is worse than the original. I think it's a clear upgrade and I'm really curious to hear your logic here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fangs out of nowhere that doesn't fit the point of the pokemon
        >talons out of nowhere that doesn't fit the point of the pokemon
        >dancing theme is less clear because it doesn't have the disco pants anymore
        >"h-how is it worse than the original?"

        This is why fans will never be good Pokemon designers. They just change and add random shit until they arbitrarily think it looks cool with no regard for actually communicating a coherent idea.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where are the tail blades? They are supposed to be chakrams. They are its weapons. Whoever drew this didn't even understand the fricking design nor what Past Paradoxes are supposed to be. Turning it into a fricking stegosaurus would've made more sense.

          This.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They are supposed to be chakrams
            Really?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.
              >Flourishes of its decorative water feathers slice into its foes. (Violet Pokedex entry)
              Its attack animation has it spin the feathers around it. They are slicing weapons.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not gay anymore
          More than makes up for it while still looking like a flamboyant dancing bird mon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't communicate the point anymore
            Precisely why the design is worse. I'm glad you're learning.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But it still looks like a flamboyant dancing bird mon. Please work on your basic literacy.

              >not gay anymore
              it wasn't gay to begin with the dude is clearly built to dance and mate with female birds but your brainroot can't stop seeing gays everywhere

              >it wasn't gay to begin with
              Please work on obtaining a prescription for your vision.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But it still looks like a flamboyant dancing bird mon
                No it doesn't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Please work on obtaining a prescription for your vision.
                i already did it and i only see a bird that dances which is pretty common with birds and their mating rituals and communication
                Now please work on obtaining a prescription for your brain capacity

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not gay anymore
            it wasn't gay to begin with the dude is clearly built to dance and mate with female birds but your brainroot can't stop seeing gays everywhere

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it wasn't gay to begin with the dude is clearly built to dance and mate with female birds
              Female Quaquavals canonically do not exist
              Thus the only reason they're dancing is because they're gay and want to get it on with other flaming homobirds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Female Quaquavals canonically do not exist
                The frick are you talking about moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon is too lazy to use google before he makes schizo claims for all to see

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Female Quaquavals canonically do not exist
                moron
                >Thus the only reason they're dancing is because [/pol/schizo headcanon]
                moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I asked so politely and you were still a dick in your response /vp/ is amazing
          anyways I see validity in your criticism that the new design elements make zero sense thematically, but I still prefer it because Quaquaval is so objectively hideous and hard to look at. Its feet are disgusting and do not convey dancing, and the bell bottoms didn't scan to me until you pointed it out. The redesign looks much more like a fighting type as well and implies that it is a physical attacker and not just a gay salsa duck

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I want a shitty redesign because I'm too stupid to understand the original design
            All right

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if the original design is ugly and hurts to look at I don't really give a frick about its theme. is it unreasonable to want a pokemon to look like a monster and not a furry with a career?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes because then you need to play something else. Go play something with monsters instead. Pokémon have themes that go beyond "just a fantasy creature", and if you don't care about that then I don't know why you're sticking with this franchise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Real Pokémon are like Arbok and Nidoking.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based

                Yes because then you need to play something else. Go play something with monsters instead. Pokémon have themes that go beyond "just a fantasy creature", and if you don't care about that then I don't know why you're sticking with this franchise.

                Cringe

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Brother, then go play Dragon Quest. That's what a lot of genwun mons were based on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >based on.
                *Plagiarized

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's what I'm saying. Sugimori's early artstyle was very """inspired""" by Toriyama and so was the entire idea of Pokémon which is basically Dragon Quest with Dragon Ball technology.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pokemon designs (especially the starters) being based on careers is a relatively new concept for the series. The Kalos starters were literally based on fantasy classes and they just got more and more specific from there. I don't mind if pokemon have strong themes like Doublade or Garganacl, but I think the inclusion of literal careers on Pokemon doesn't feel natural and makes it harder to see them as the creatures they are supposed to be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We've had them since day fricking one dude.
                This homie is literally just a boxer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah you literally got me there. I'll specify I'm tired of this design choice being pushed on to every single starter. For what it's worth I also hate hitmonchan/lee

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the "job" part is not what's annoying about newer starter designs, it's usually the forced personality that some of them have like Inteleon. Their personalities feel set in stone for marketing purposes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel as if these two problems go hand-in-hand though. Intelleon *needs* to be smug and cool to match the spy job. Cinderace must be spunky and athletic. They're digging themselves into a hole right off the bat by giving them roles to fill at all. I miss real monster starters like Swampert because they are more believable as a creature you would see in the wild and could project any personality on to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I agree. But this problem pretty much only applies to starters, most other Pokemon are totally fine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The starters are the pokemon I'm complaining about. In the thread complaining about Quaquaval, the starter's, design

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s called Pocket Monsters, moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it's not, it's called Pokémon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i understand but i prefer shit fanshit over actually good official designs

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fan designs are objectively better like, 90% of the time. Gamefreak are literal bottom tier designers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dancing theme is less clear because it doesn't have the disco pants anymore
          >nuance bad! subtlety bad! I need a design to hit me over the head with its inspiration!
          This is why we get shitmons like revaroom and squawkabilly now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Subtlety being inherently a good thing is a complete fricking meme parroted by morons who don't understand how character design works.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >SUBTLETY BAD
              >NUANCE BAD
              >homosexualRY GOOD
              Such inane consoomeristic beliefs, do you also happen to be a capeshit fan?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                blastoise would be a worse design if they made it “subtle” and “nuanced” by removing its cannons
                machamp would be a worse design if they made it “subtle” and “nuanced” by removing its belt and extra arms
                hypno would be a worse design if they made it “subtle” and “nuanced” by removing its pendulum
                greninja would be a worse design if they made it “subtle”and “nuanced” by removing its tongue scarf and ninja stars

                octillery is a worse design than it could’ve been because they made its tank theme “subtle” and “nuanced” resulting in it just looking like a generic forgettable octopus
                samurott is a worse design than it could’ve been because they made it “subtle” and “nuanced” by giving it a generic cartoon sea lion body shape that completely contradicts its fighting style

                “subtlety” and “nuance” being good things is a complete fricking meme parroted by morons who don’t understand character design.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gamefreak took a duck with a hat and made it a literal unironic gay man so all of your whining about "coherent ideas" is just gibberish you use to suck off your parasocial corporate slavemaster

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >literal unironic gay man
            Take your meds schizo
            It's a samba peawiener

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fangs out of nowhere
          You mean it became a pocket MONSTER
          >talons out of nowhere
          You mean it became a pocket MONSTER
          >dancing theme is less clear
          You mean it became more subtle and clever
          >it doesn't have the disco pants anymore
          You mean it became less of a flaming homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its meant to be a paradox design, not a redesign, thats why it doesnt work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpwp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But enough about gamefreak

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Still not great but better

      Fr fr y'all Gamefreak lowkey masters of monster design dae think fanbois should be arrested for this??? @FBI @NINTENDO DO SOMETHING

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pokegays try to fix a bad design
    >They only make it even worse
    Every single time

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now it's tolerable

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd still frick it

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who needs Quaquashit when Nosepass exists?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to the big and strong legs made for kicking? how does he fight now?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a little bit better I suppose.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's no fixing quaqaval, it's the worst starter design in history

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remove the fangs and it's good

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it, but he still arches his back like a homosexual

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still not something I'd love to see in the game (maybe the head is a little too big/crowded compared to its fixed body?), but definitely better than what we got.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sees cartoon bird
    >Only thing you can think about is anal sex

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >actually the gay duck look good!
    Pokegays are actually fricking mindbroken

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Flamboyant frick = gay!
    You gotta be the dumbest low IQ person low on the earth if you really think that way KEK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are obsessed with thinking about wieners so they project their gay thoughts onto harmless creatures from a child's game.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hurr durr why you say gay = gay it's le funneh that it's a prancing la la homosexual that shakes its ass

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >still projecting your homosexual fantasies onto a Brazilian peawiener from a kids game
      Seek help

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I already fixed it, along with Shitboar. Sceptile is cool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fixed
      >When the other two are as bad as before
      >Meanwhile quaquaval got a big ass ugly skirt unsuitable for fighting

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