Frick konami

I'm a zoomer that just played these for the first time and finished mgs3 yesterday, they're absolutely fricking incredible and if I had played these then they released I would've built kojima a shrine. MGS1 is the best overall because shadow moses is the perfect setting and the story felt more cohesive and contained but MSG2 and 3 are close. The stealth system in mgs2 is vastly superior to 1 but big shell isn't as fun as shadow moses and the game only really becomes great at arsenal gear, And raiden taking out 20 metal gear rays who are supposed to be better than rex while snake took on one rex with help from gray fox doesn't sit right with me, makes the metal gears look way too weak when they're supposed to be the ultimate weapon and whatnot. Then there is mgs3. I didn't like the stealth that much on that one but big boss is a complete sperg and I liked that a lot, bosses are pretty good overall but mgs1 is still the best at those too.
Now I'm thinking of playing 5 and wait for the master collection vol2 to see if I can get mgs4 running not like shit

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glad you enjoyed them. Always nice to see someone experience the games for the first time.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ray was built to fight Robots not people.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but big shell isn't as fun as shadow moses

    It has a different atmosphere, less gritty, but Big Shell offers a lot more of the standard stealth gameplay. Shadow Moses has a handful of zones where you sneak past guards, the rest is fighting bosses or doing special encounters like the communication tower.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes I guess the whole game taking place during day time also helped to kill the atmosphere a little, it's not bad but I just prefer the dark and snowy shadow moses

      I imagine you would also like MG2.
      Its like the progenitor of the series identety whit its story telling and game-play variety. As it has a lot of weird puzzle moments and backtracking.
      Id say MG2 is basically MGS1 but 2d.
      MG1 is the first game but its more of a idea demo than a serous game kojima wanted to make. Its like a Zelda 1 but whit guns.

      I was thinking of playing those too, it's such a wasted opportunity to remake mgs3 when those two have potential to be actual kino with modern tech, it's not like RE4 or mgs3 that play perfectly today by modern standards and their remakes are little more than model swaps. But I guess that making a good remake of mg1 and 2 would take actual talent and some involvement from kojima and konami is incapable of that

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah 2 actually has a really cool concept and story, and the way it does Big Boss as a villain is really kino. Kind of a shame really that most people never experienced Big Boss as a bad guy. He's a bit Colonel Kurtz, they build him up pretty well. The way Snake kills him in 2 is really cool too, if they ever remake the game that death scene will become fricking iconic.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        After replaying TS, 2, 3 and trying 4 on PS4, I replayed MGS V and its such a different but fun as frick game, its movement set is easy to slide back into after replaying it after so long.

        I'm using Snakebite to shake it up and it's fun as frick improvising when a truck comes by.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I imagine you would also like MG2.
    Its like the progenitor of the series identety whit its story telling and game-play variety. As it has a lot of weird puzzle moments and backtracking.
    Id say MG2 is basically MGS1 but 2d.
    MG1 is the first game but its more of a idea demo than a serous game kojima wanted to make. Its like a Zelda 1 but whit guns.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a zoomer
    I love twinks. Want to bang?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a zoomer
    and here I thought movie games were a millennial thing....fricking dumb zoomer

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    MGSV trades story for gameplay. it's a very strange trade-off for a MGS game but I enjoyed it a lot. I completed every mission and I think you'll like it a lot too as long as you accept my first sentence with the right mindset.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've heard from multiple people that it has the best gameplay in the series and that the fox engine is amazing so I'm excited to see what kind of stuff you'll be able to pull off, But there is something that is really frustrating about these games and it's that they give you so many options where most of them are lethal but the game punishes you for killing people. I tried to do a full non lethal run of mgs3 and everytime I got a weapon it felt like shit because I knew that I would just rely on the tranquilizer gun again.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >punishes you for killing people
        hahahahahaHAHAHA
        Oh MAN, you're gonna hate the story of MGS5. Welcome aboard, lad. Enjoy the high while it lasts.

        >IM A ZOOMERgay AND IM FINALLY REALIZING THAT ITS TRUE OLDER GAMES WERE ACTUALLY BETTER

        does it burn? We tried telling you gays forever and you made it some ego thing.

        >seething contrarian mad that less cynical people get to enjoy his tastes
        And you wonder why people turn away from you.

        Personally I love MGSV. It filters midwits so fricking hard. Don’t let the morons here keep you from enjoying this pure ludokino masterpiece.

        moron.

        I only recently got an actual pc so for most of my life I've played older games or indie stuff that could run on a i3 from 10 years ago, it's sad to see that all the other people my age only have eyes for gachashit, battleroyale shit or yearly release shit, I showed sekiro to a few friends and they just looked weird at me asking why are my games so weird, it's like they're incapable of comprehending that a game can have a clear beginning middle and end. I told them I would pirate gta6 as soon as I could and they just asked horrified what's the point of playing a gta without online when the series didn't have it until 4 and it didn't become an actual thing until 5, it's grim

        Damn OP, that sounds like shit. Just don't let your newfound seclusion lower your standards for friendship. Trust me, just because some gays share your tastes for nerd culture and similar humor does NOT mean they're good people. Take it from me.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IM A ZOOMERgay AND IM FINALLY REALIZING THAT ITS TRUE OLDER GAMES WERE ACTUALLY BETTER

    does it burn? We tried telling you gays forever and you made it some ego thing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only recently got an actual pc so for most of my life I've played older games or indie stuff that could run on a i3 from 10 years ago, it's sad to see that all the other people my age only have eyes for gachashit, battleroyale shit or yearly release shit, I showed sekiro to a few friends and they just looked weird at me asking why are my games so weird, it's like they're incapable of comprehending that a game can have a clear beginning middle and end. I told them I would pirate gta6 as soon as I could and they just asked horrified what's the point of playing a gta without online when the series didn't have it until 4 and it didn't become an actual thing until 5, it's grim

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only recently got an actual pc so for most of my life I've played older games or indie stuff that could run on a i3 from 10 years ago, it's sad to see that all the other people my age only have eyes for gachashit, battleroyale shit or yearly release shit, I showed sekiro to a few friends and they just looked weird at me asking why are my games so weird, it's like they're incapable of comprehending that a game can have a clear beginning middle and end. I told them I would pirate gta6 as soon as I could and they just asked horrified what's the point of playing a gta without online when the series didn't have it until 4 and it didn't become an actual thing until 5, it's grim

      Zoomers trying to act like boomers are pathetic.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        At least after hitting 20 they will cringe from using Ganker rather than being a troony on twitter.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. It gives off the same energy as people that say they have an "old soul" because they worship their parents music and are instantly against anything new. There's nothing wrong with liking old shit, but stop pretending like it was perfect. For every good PS2 game, there were a dozen clearance bin pieces of shit that were the bane of someone's Christmas.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. zoomie

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t. homosexual

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OLDER GAMES WERE ACTUALLY BETTER
      This is what morons actually believe

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm millennial and they're trash

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I love MGSV. It filters midwits so fricking hard. Don’t let the morons here keep you from enjoying this pure ludokino masterpiece.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Worst game in the series.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It filters people
      It's the single most normie-friendly game in the entire series what are you on about, in your need to come off as enlightened you do nothing but appear even more moronic

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. V unironically has the most replay value and arguably best level design (cowards that don't try to ghost high-level FOB's do NOT redeem). Midwits got filtered by the way the story is presented, especially after memorizing every frame of the trailers put out before launch. Also if you don't like marking enemies just turn it off under display settings. It plays much more like the classic games without the HUD (you can still bring up the map and walk around)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the hell is ludo about it?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The gameplay is amazing. The actual map design besides a handful of places and the story are fricking awful.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      MGSV is fine the issue with it comes knowing it would have been better if not for all the trouble.

      Ground Zeroes is pretty much a perfect game and when I heard they were taking that same gameplay and scaling it up into an open world I thought it would be even better. But the map design is so much worse and finding routes isn't even much fun because you can just enter every mission with a busted custom loadout

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ghost Babel

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Now I'm thinking of playing 5
    Don't skip Peace Walker and Ground Zeros. Listen to the tapes in those games, they're good and it'll make you more invested in the story.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, skip V instead, it's shit

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        sorry, I meant to say 4.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, you can skip that too.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unpopular opinion but I enjoyed peacewalker the most. I know the gameplay is simple but brings back extra ops which 3 lacked but they feel more.important because you are building a base. I also like how your base is low res and covered in fog it makes it more mysterious than in 5. Also the tapes are great feels very immersive. Plus the weapon selection is comfy lots of cold war guns many of them actually useable and important and finally unlike V it's still goofy in its humour. I'm looking forward to the MGS vol.2 collection so I can replay it on pc, hopefully with a texture mod to bump up some textures resolution just a little bit.

        This V robs all the fun out the series and takes itself way too seriously. The only good thing about it is Quiet's model and the kino made from that died off years ago. Kinda like resident evil 3 remake ij that regard but that is a different subject.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. The proper order is MG1 -> MG2 -> MGS1 -> MGS2 -> MGS3 -> MGS4 -> PW -> MGSV GZ -> MGSV

      Yes you missed out by skipping MG1 and MG2. 2 especially ties directly into MGS1's plot and greatly enhances it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Add portable, that's also a good game OP and has one of the kinoest moments in the entire series along with a great soundtrack

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glad you liked them OP, I played them all at release and yeah, playing MGS2 as my first experience of 'next gen' was amazing. Death Stranding is the best thing Kojima has made since MGS3, I'd say it's worth checking out instead of carrying on with the MGS series.

      5 doesn't have a story though. PW and GZ are worth playing for their own sake instead of building up to 5. 5 should have been multiple GZ style levels instead of an open world map.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The later games for me are more about the characters and less about the story so that's why the tapes are an important part. Skull Face was arguably the best villain in the series after Liquid and his ideological conflict with Zero was interesting. I liked how the game explored Miller's descent into parania after the events of GZ and the contrast it created with the character you got to know in PW. Then there was Paz's whole tragic arc and the effect it had on Venom. I guess these things just didn't resonate with some people or maybe they didn't engage with it.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >And raiden taking out 20 metal gear rays who are supposed to be better than rex while snake took on one rex with help from gray fox doesn't sit right with me,
    it was a VR simulation. notice the background and ground being circuit lines

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that kojima is a self absorbed hack, konami did the right thing.
    only MGR and V are worth while.
    everything else ive over convoluted trash with typical japshit humor that makes 0 sense.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of playing MGS5 play Hitman

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really? Of all games I always figured MGS3 had the best bosses. Betweeen the long ass fight with the end, the puzzle ghost river of the sorrow, and just the really climactic final fight with the boss.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the end and the boss were great but the pain, the fury and the fear were mostly a chore to get through. and Vulcan raven is still the best one in the series so far so if I had to pick I would stay with mgs1

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MGS1 is the best
    This is the first correct opinion I've ever read on this god forsaken website

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >frick konami
    I hope you didn't pay Konami for these because they're already farming 2 subscriptions from me for rhythm games.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The thing with the rays in MGS2 is that you're not really defeating them, you just shoot them until the cutscene which shows raiden about to get killed before emmas worm cluster takes effect. But still, I understand the sentiment.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    play the demo of 2 sometime
    Also, play MSX MG1 & 2 on the collection if you haven't already, they're very important

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has the PC port been fixed? When it launched people said it was an awful port.
    I'm only interested in getting them for modding, but if they're still ass I'm going to pass.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Officially? Nah.
      The modding community already added arbitrary resolutions and crouch walk, however. I hope someone adds more MGS3D functions soon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      people say it's awful because it's just the original hd ports with no enhancements, mgs1 on duckstation still looks better so I played it there

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        From personal experience, day 1 PC port of MGS3 was better than emulating on RPCS3.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The problem with these new ports is that they're barebones as frick. They're 1:1 to the console releases, down to the 720p rendering resolutions.
          There's many ports nowadays that are waaaaaaay worse.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don't they also remove some features? I think I recall the MGS3 port removes the built in MG1+2 games, which is really fricking moronic.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm mad about something that isn't even true and I can't be bothered to check
              reddit moment

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              MGS 2 had a decent, if dumb skateboard minigame as a product demo, MGS 3 had the Guy Savage nightmare which was also a product demo, and also some exclusive camos and masks with unique effects on the game, as well as the Snake vs. Monkey minigame.
              MG 1 and 2 were on a separate disc as extras; they were the first western localized releases with a trimmed down, revised script. Those ports are actually inferior because they run at a low framerate and have some weird quirks from the mobile phone ports they're based on.
              It's better to emulate Metal Gear 1 and 2 with patched translations on an MSX2 emulator.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Those ports are actually inferior because they run at a low framerate
                The master collection already fixed that in an update.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >1:1 to console release
            They have regressions and bugs. They also don't resurrect the lost content from the PS2 releases.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            As I said, in the case of MGS3 on PC, it's preferable to the alternatives. The same can't be said for MGS1 and 2.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Overtime modded PC version will become the best. There’s already a couch walk mod for MGS3.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I want the minimap from MGS3D, personally

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are three significant bugs introduced with the MC that makes them sub-par in relation to the console releases:

            >MGS2 Save File Corruption (this has been patched, thankfully)
            >MGS2 Disc Read Error (so far, we haven't seen Konami acknowledge the issue and no one knows why it happens -- that said, it is very rare)
            >Low quality audio in both MGS2 and MGS3 (sort of addressed via mods, but it's imperfect)

            In addition, Konami claimed the games would output at 1080p, but thus far they are still 720p -- note that they may not have intended for the rendering resolution to be 720p, but it's still an inaccuracy from the pre-release marketing.

            If the latter two issues get officially addressed and they add 1080p output, it'll be everything it claimed to be at the outset. Even without those though, the ease of modding and significant support it's seen so far -- especially MGS3 -- makes it easily the best way to play the games.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              the disk error thing seems to happen if you have a very slow hdd, if it takes too long for the game to get data it just assumes you took out the disk

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                According to the Steam thread, some people are experiencing it on SSDs. That said, yes, some people resolved it by reinstalling on an SSD. Which, again, suggests that we don't actually know the cause yet. The HDD thing is just a theory so far.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >disc read error
              icon that pops up in the corner? I thought that related to the PS2 hardware.

              MGS 2's engine allocates memory and dedicates threads to various separate functions in both stage instantiation and setup, audio buffering and playback, and world rendering.
              That error icon pops up and the game freezes if the engine makes a fricky wucky and enters a race condition or loses context. It can happen on pcsx2 if game speed slows too far, but in a couple key instances it's all but guaranteed to happen for some unknown reason (Raiden at the oil fence in his intro; Raiden meeting Snake and Otacon in the computer room with Emma)

              Some thread invariably gets blocked and I'm not sure whose fault it should be.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Apparently the folks in the Steam thread are mostly seeing it in the last instance; the Elevator leading into the Snake/Otacon/Emma cutscene, but some are seeing it in your earlier example. It seems really uncommon overall, but for the people it's affecting, they seem unable to pass it. As far as I've seen, the only thing that sometimes resolves is moving from an HDD to an SSD, but some people installed on an SSD in the first place and are getting it. Weird shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then I guess it relates to how the engine streams data. They give a ton of detailed information on MGS 2's engine on the document disc.
                They stream a lot of data in stage initialization when the models are loaded and then textures are loaded, actors loaded and so on, concurrently, and also buffer audio in a separate thread. Don't remember much of anything on caching.
                That'd be interesting to debug.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man, I loved that thing. Recently found my physical PS2 discs and it was among them. Finding that and playing through the trilogy again via the Master Collection made me so nostalgic that I downloaded it just so I could "play" it since I don't have a PS2/3 available at the moment.

                I'm honestly really disappointed that it wasn't part of the "bonus materials" for the Collection.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that they are barebones but are missing effects or have glitches effects either due to the HD ports by bluepoint or by Konami themselves during creating the master collection

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fixed
      It wasn’t broken, only minor shit that has been patched
      >people said
      Form your own opinions, it only got lambasted by people who don’t play the games like always

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was so bad that fitgirl didn't even make a repack lol. It's still not fixed, mods help but the games are fricked.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    659765345
    le reddiGanker contrarian

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Now I'm thinking of playing 5
    DON'T.
    You NEED to play the Peace Walker (and Ground Zeroes) first. Preferably only play those, and ignore TPP completely.
    It's shit, and unfinished.

    t. MG fan since fricking NES days.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    MGS 1 in that collection seems to have some major flaws. The original PC port was horrible garbage and one of the lead devs came out and said as much and explained that they were inexperienced when they made it.

    Should consider learning how to emulate the PS1 release of MGS 1, and the PS2 releases of MGS 2 and 3; it's worth it and they're all in good shape nowadays if you have a recent cpu and video card.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MGS 1 in that collection seems to have some major flaws
      It's okay. It just happens to be emulated instead of a new port / reedition of the original PC version.
      >The original PC port was horrible garbage and one of the lead devs came out and said as much and explained that they were inexperienced when they made it.
      Even within fifth gen PC ports, MGS1 stucks out as particularly terrible. Although, I played it recently with fan patches and fixes and it was alright. The biggest problem was the lack of motion blur and other post processing effects the original had.
      Still, emulating it remains the way to go tbh

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course the real loss is MGO. It'd be great to get a remake of that, totally overhauled to use a modern host, whether it's Konami or using Valve's Steam networking facilities. A problem is that they have no concept of cheat prevention on PC.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    MGS1 the fricking infinite staircase with troops chasing you up is the worst fricking level i hate that part

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good level. You're suffering from a skill issue.

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    V is incredibly underrated.
    Atmosphere and lore are just incredible, cutscenes are amazing, the single worst part of V is how much it leaves you wanting for more, it leaves you with a .....phantom pain....
    amazing game.
    Death Stranding sucks btw.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      V is fine, especially if you're not specifically in the mood for Metal Gear, but the cutscenes are easily its weakest aspect. Themes are good but the "lore" is just "parasites did it" and a whole bunch of technobabble from Code Talker about how they did it. The fact that they retconned the Cobras to be Parasite users is bullshit.

      I did end up liking Venom a lot though. While in a lot of scenes, it's clearly done so they didn't have to pay for too much more Kiefer work, his overall less chatty demeanor and more heroic outlook is really pleasant to see. Him and Quiet are surprisingly sweet when you look at it as them connecting on a level beyond straightforward communication.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The "real" V ending is the best cutscene in the series aside from the end of 2

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I remember when Venom and V left me no longer liking Big Boss (was an MGS3gay) and instead liking Venom and Solid most of all.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >V is incredibly underrated
      >underrated
      there was the "based X chag" shill template only few comments ago. if it's popular with normies and casuals it's likely more rated than what is worth.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >V is incredibly underrated
      >underrated
      there was the "based X chag" shill template only few comments ago. if it's popular with normies and casuals it's likely more rated than what is worth.

      V is the one that opened the floodgates to some of the worst people you can imagine, it’s only been the past couple years that the online discourse is returning to normal.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Frick konami
    >trying to jump on the bandwagon this late

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      shittiest bandwagon ever

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you really like MGS that much OP, vote for Snake in the tournament
    https://sys.Ganker.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforms.gle%2FceUnHv9DHxznWajN6

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    MGS3 is king, I love Bibo's dynamic with Ocy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Love how much of an autist Naked Snake is. He'd definitely be a /k/ommando

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually liked the jack and rose parts in mgs2

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like it too. Rose is really cute in 2, don't really care for her in 4, though.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah Rose is kinda stupid in 4 even with her visual upgrade. Awesome rack on her though!

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm happy you had fun, the controls can feel a bit dated but you get used to them really quickly

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hated Metal Gear Solid V. How are you going to make a stealth game in which successful stealth operations result in the enemy wearing full body armor(including their toes) so you can't tranq them anymore, that's not fun.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >so you can't tranq them anymore
      Using tranq isn't any different from killing

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >so you can't tranq them anymore
      Using tranq isn't any different from killing

      If you're good you don't even need to tranq them. V has the best stealth mechanics in the series by far

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >V has the best stealth mechanics in the series by far
        You can't even tell when you're stealth walking with fatigues.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they're absolutely fricking incredible
    They're basically movie games. What's so incredible about that?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the atmosphere and mechanics are really fun and detailed. And the characters and political mindfricks are right up my alley

      People are saying this remaster is bad, but how bad? Is the music the same, are the effects replicated "enough" (say as good as the PS3 version)? Nobody can really tell me what's "so wrong". Like ir even has the same voice acting, and combat sounds.

      I blind bought Silent Hill HD and I never recovered, basically is Metal Gear Solid Master Collection really bad or meme bad?

      it's meme bad, it's only that people don't like the games have 0 enhancements and play on 720p. Yes the emulators look better but it's still the same as the PS2 games, metal gear solid 1 does look worse than in the ps1 and it's the only one I would say is worth emulating instead

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's only really bad on Switch, as it runs at 30 fps, when MGS2 was 60 fps on PS2 and even Vita to some extend.
        Xbox version is somehow worse than 360 via backwards compatibility, as it completely lacks AF and has some broken effects for some reason.
        PS5 version offers the best experience out of the box.
        PC version is the best due to mods to increase resolution. Vanilla has sound issues (fixed with mods). There are also some other mods, like upscaled UI, improved textures (not talking about AI upscaling, but improved textures that skipped upscaling in HD Collection), decensorship/texture bug fixes for MGS2, unlocked framerate and crouch walk for 3. And it runs extremely smooth.

        The problem is that they're straight ports down to 720p resolution.
        The most issues has MGS1, as the emulator is slower than actual PSX, has sound issues (at least on PC), bilinear filtering (ironically PS4 version is the only one with integer scaling), no CRT filter and no analog movement (analog emulates d-pad, instead of being analog)

        The Master Collection fixed some bugs from the HD Collection while introducing new ones.
        For the most part is the same shit, down to the 720p resolution.
        It's meme bad, I'd say. They're totally playable and nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, as bad as Silent Hill HD.
        MGS1 is emulated so at that point you're better off using something like Duckstation for 4K/PGXP or Mednafen if you like PS1 resolution/graphics

        Alright thanks for the information. Sounds like "artistically" the entire package is here.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    sounds about right. 3 topped 1 for me but the first is really special and it's the only one that stands on its own. also loved playing it for the first time in one sitting and the sun was up when i finished so it basically felt like real time. 5 is fine but cut down a lot so don't expect much plot there. Peace Walker and 5 both just have some tapes to listen to instead of codec calls while on missions and Keifer Sutherland barely speaks, you don't even get the "Virtual mission"? repeated words. 4 is kind of a miserable game but you should probably suffer through it too - release order.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    People are saying this remaster is bad, but how bad? Is the music the same, are the effects replicated "enough" (say as good as the PS3 version)? Nobody can really tell me what's "so wrong". Like ir even has the same voice acting, and combat sounds.

    I blind bought Silent Hill HD and I never recovered, basically is Metal Gear Solid Master Collection really bad or meme bad?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's only really bad on Switch, as it runs at 30 fps, when MGS2 was 60 fps on PS2 and even Vita to some extend.
      Xbox version is somehow worse than 360 via backwards compatibility, as it completely lacks AF and has some broken effects for some reason.
      PS5 version offers the best experience out of the box.
      PC version is the best due to mods to increase resolution. Vanilla has sound issues (fixed with mods). There are also some other mods, like upscaled UI, improved textures (not talking about AI upscaling, but improved textures that skipped upscaling in HD Collection), decensorship/texture bug fixes for MGS2, unlocked framerate and crouch walk for 3. And it runs extremely smooth.

      The problem is that they're straight ports down to 720p resolution.
      The most issues has MGS1, as the emulator is slower than actual PSX, has sound issues (at least on PC), bilinear filtering (ironically PS4 version is the only one with integer scaling), no CRT filter and no analog movement (analog emulates d-pad, instead of being analog)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The most issues has MGS1, as the emulator is slower than actual PSX
        What's actually happening there is that if you pick English (UK) or whatever it says then what you play is the 50hz version which ran slightly slower back in the day. The collection should be clearer about this but both are available regardless. Otherwise a straight port isn't necessarily "bad" at all, and it was essentially what they were aiming to do. Unambitious and there was still some room to improve things within that scope but the games themselves are all there.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm actually not talking about PAL/NTSC speed difference.
          Emulator has worse performance than actual PS1, there are drops when getting into water or during first person perspective.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Master Collection fixed some bugs from the HD Collection while introducing new ones.
      For the most part is the same shit, down to the 720p resolution.
      It's meme bad, I'd say. They're totally playable and nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, as bad as Silent Hill HD.
      MGS1 is emulated so at that point you're better off using something like Duckstation for 4K/PGXP or Mednafen if you like PS1 resolution/graphics

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wait for Vol2 before V. PW (bst game) must be played before otherwise V will feel hollow.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Peace Walker is great, you can emulate it easily, and it takes place between MGS3 and V, so you'll want to play it before V. Also, usually I think you should play games in publishing order, but given that MGS4 is so hard to play nowadays and has no plot points important to Peace Walker. you can probably play Peace Walker before MGS4.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    2 has the best gameplay, 3 the best story, 1 the best bosses

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people in steam comments saying "wtf this looks like a ps1 game" about mgs1
    >when konami advertised it as a port of MGS1
    I think the port is definitely a bit lazy, but are these people moronic?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I think the port is definitely a bit lazy, but are these people moronic?

      People legitmately don't understand the differences between remakes and remasters and think all remasters should be like REmake2 (which is moronic because it's basically a different game.)

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The RAYs were built to take out the knock-off REXes that were built in third world shitholes after its blueprints got leaked to the black market. None of those things were even close to the original REX that Snake fought. Of course, they do end up looking even worse when a whole bunch of them have trouble with Raiden on a huge deck with no available cover.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting to see MGS in the zeitgeist again. My gf is also playing MGS1 for the first time and her brother is likewise looking to get his hands on the games. They are Zoomers. I'm 30 and played this franchise starting with 3 and then played every Solid other than Ghost Babel.

    I guess part of that is the fact that we're seeing the collection release. I'm really quite amazed at the notion that MGS4 is really coming to other systems.

    Also, yes, MGSV has the best gameplay bar none, the best part of MGSV is Ground Zeroes because it combines classic MGS design philosophy with the new engine. TPP is good but has too much open world.

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MGS1 is the best
    You got that right and MGS4=MGS1
    >b-but muh meta narrative
    Shut up b***h MGS is at its best when it's a straightforward action movie

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      my problems with MGS4 aren't weird meta narrative shit, I'd have to piss on 2's grave if i had to b***h about that, but moreso how the really refined gameplay just gives way to less and less play and more and more cutscenes the further the game goes on while Kojima rapidly tries to close every possible plot thread he could with increasing amounts of sloppiness.

      naomi has super cancer her nanomachines has been repressing without a fuss? vamp represses DEATH with it but he still feels pain and goes down like a b***h to a headshot, should've just given her FOXDIE because it feels like the plot was written for it. dr. madnar surviving grenades/missiles at zanzibarland and giving raiden his cyborg body off-screen? i don't know why, especially since madnar was a fricking robotics metal gear designer, not a cyborg dude. liquid snake's arm being just a fooled you moment where ocelot was only pretending to be possessed the entire time so he could buck the supernatural stuff doesn't help either.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    GZ > PW > 2 > 3 > 1 > PO > AC!D2 > AC!D > MG2 > MG > MO > GB > 4 > V

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's wrong with mgs4?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kojima was sick of making Metal Gear Solid games and it shows.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Kojima was sick of making Metal Gear Solid games and it shows.

        It's not just that, Konami and fans specifically demanded a sequel to MGS2 with Solid Snake back and questions answered, which Kojima never wanted to make because he wanted an open ending for 2. This is why MGS4 seems to have all the answers but they tend to be underwhelming or straight up stupid. You also have stuff like MGS2's duo dynamic being flipped on its head with Snake now being old and kind of useless while Raiden is the badass cyborg who has to carry Snake, total role reversal.

        IMO the dystopian channel flipping the game starts with is Kojima's way of subtling saying "You want your slop? Well here's you fricking slop morons."

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well that's too bad. Kojima's biggest issue is his lack of backbone. He ruined his own franchise and story simply because the homosexual couldn't stand his ground and say no. A lot of jap devs lead by their feelings it seems, and it ends up just making shitty products that age worse over time.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          or maybe kojima is just a not so great writer you're telling me he had no plan for a sequel of mgs2? seems bullshit

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            How much did he write again? People say his writer in MGS2 was the real reason for a lot of its quality, and that shit was just hashed together out of random ideas asked around for at the office, but then everything post-MGS3 went off a cliff.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >or maybe kojima is just a not so great writer you're telling me he had no plan for a sequel of mgs2?

            MGS2 was planned to be his final Metal Gear and he wanted somebody else to take over as director for the series. If you play MGS2 with this in mind it makes total sense because Raiden can be viewed as a passing of the torch. At the end he's no longer just a puppet part of a simulation trying to recreate Snake but his own man. Basically Kojima's way of saying "The director who takes over MGS after me isn't going to be me, but that's a good thing!"

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >MGS2 was planned to be his final Metal Gear
              Every Metal Gear was planned to be his final Metal Gear from the very first game on the msx. He never intended to make a Metal Gear 2 (MSX) until one of the developers of Snake's Revenge told him he would love that.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The grand game plan design doc for MGS 2 supports that it was meant to be the last one, just as MGS 1 was meant to be the last one because they thought it was going to be a flop, then were surprised when it was a success in the US.
            Metal Gear 1 was meant to be a one-off.
            The doc explicitly states that they would not answer the question "Who are the Patriots?"; they did not bother with an answer. That is shit writing.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It felt kinda stupid how Kojima ended up wanking Big Boss up to god levels when he inevitably has to die fighting Solid in a very basic boss battle in MG, while Solid got completely fricked over.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Big Boss speeds around some corners really fast with a gun and takes missiles to the face like a moron
            >then he gets burned to death with an aerosol-lighter combo
            >over a decade and a half later and he's suddenly re-envisioned as the greatest soldier of all time that can one-man-army Russian, African and Cuban forces plus top-secret American forces, trained by the greatest WWII soldier ever, can survive a Metal Gear stomp with his bare hands, and co-invents a super deadly usage of melee moves that instantly knock out everyone it touches short of boss fights
            >then Kojima cooks up the body double Venom Snake to explain away the flat first game's anti-climax fight
            like what the frick

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t know if its at the start of every mgs4 version, but the interview with hayter when he’s forced to say the lines he speaks aren’t his own is another f u

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The soundscapes and audio in MGS 1 is something else. Gregson Williams was a good replacement, but I wonder how the rest of the series could have been with the same quality of work from the other guy they shitcanned.

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cancerous jappo movie games.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      back to fortnite

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it wad up to me:

    Vol. 2
    >PW
    >4
    >Rising
    >Acid Games or Port Ops as bonus

    Vol 3.
    >GZ + TPP
    >Survive and/or Online
    >Idk Ghost Babel as the bonus I guess

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Actually, they mean to kill Snake off with foxdie at the end of MGS 1. they explained it away with Integral where they do the vaccine thing.
    I think that might have also been a potential game idea at some point - interquel between 1 and 2 where they break Naomi out of prison in exchange for a vaccine.

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone played the switch port? I've been itching to replay them, but my ps2 is almost dead and I only have a toaster laptop, so I doubt it'll run well. I also have a ps4, but playing metal gear on portable sound comfy as frick

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