>Game finale has huge plot event. >It is totally retconned and has no impact on the plot of the sequel

>Game finale has huge plot event
>It is totally retconned and has no impact on the plot of the sequel

Anyone else hate this

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate that they pussied out with this, but the later "deaths" are worse offenders. You know there's 0% chance of any main character dying now, so Ultima Thule just fell flat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ultima Thule was never about killing the scions off in the first place.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not about killing them off, but there was supposed to be some weight to their sacrifices. You know it's meaningless and they're all guaranteed to return an hour later.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hate that they pussied out with this, but the later "deaths" are worse offenders. You know there's 0% chance of any main character dying now, so Ultima Thule just fell flat.

          it was an ff4 reference

          the only one that really bothered me was thancred in shadowbringers but the devs realized they should probably not kill him off right after making him an actual good character

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't that scene him saying goodbye to Minfilia rather than him giving a death speech? It's "shot" weird, yeah. But like, I didn't get "Thancred dies here" vibes from it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              its more that they make a big deal about how he's using the secret technique that will kill him if he uses it too much and then he does it several times and he passes out while saying he has no more regrets as the camera pans upwards with a lingering shot of his gun. its basically every dramatic technique to say "this man is dead" outside of his fucking ghost showing up but actually yshtola came by offscreen and cast cure so he's ok

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tancredo is a fucking zombie of a man who had like 4 different deaths

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it was an ff4 reference
            In what way?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it was an ff reference so who cares lol
            so boring

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it wasn't bad because X
            it was bad.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The game is pretty much the definition of fake story deaths.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >SHE TOTALLY DIED I SAW HER BROS THEY RUINED MUH STORY THEY RETCONNED AIEEEEE

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    local sultana too cute and funny to die

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fakes death three times
    haha

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would it have been better if there wasn't a way to bring him back to the Source after he becomes a giant JO crystal? Besides the whole "George R R Martin over here thinks killing main characters is good writing" I think it would quite fitting.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you telling me i have to see this gay again
      i just did the raid and i was glad that he got locked up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh boy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only 1.0 chads know this wasn't a retcon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "The Sultana is sick right now, come back later"

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dragon Age: Origins
    >At the end of development, the studio cops out and introduces an ending where none of the Grey Wardens has to die.
    >BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU PERFORMED A DARK RITUAL, IT WILL HAVE MASSIVE CONSEQUENCES IN THE FUTURE.
    >Two fucking games and multiple DLCs later, it has no impact on the wider story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not true, either you or Alistair had to fuck Morrigan. Thats basically the trolley problem. Sure you didn't die, but can you really live with yourself?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or Loghain.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Two fucking games and multiple DLCs later, it has no impact on the wider story.
      Didn't they set up Flemeth taking the soul and handing it over to whatshisname the bald elf everyone wanted to bang despite being the secret villain? Which couldn't happen without said dark ritual.
      Also Morrigan is either even more evil and manipulative or turned good depending on what you did, so I guess it could still have consequences... if I gave a flying fuck about what they do with Dragon Age anymore and if I had any interest in 4.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mass Effect II
    >The entire Leviathan and dark energy plotlines.
    >The Illusive Man being a rational pragmatist.
    >Shepard being RAISED FROM THE DEAD.
    >The various geth sects.
    >Shepard could whole-heartedly support everything Cerberus is doing.

    There were so many plotlines in that game which were dropped/went nowhere it's not even funny.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The entire Leviathan and dark energy plotlines.

      entries in an encyclopaedia aren't plotlines, they were fluff written by an intern not a real writer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An ex-BioWare employee confirmed in an interview those were supposed to be major plot elements in the third game. You can easily look it up.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that was just karpyshynn talking shit about what he totally would have done if he hadn't run off to write trash star wars eu books

          the dark matter idea is literally stupider than what we got anyway. just a clumsy environmentalism metaphor where all the relays would be shut off and the reapers really were reaping us for our own good.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they didn't just retcon the death, they retconned all the remaining evil characters in ul'dah to make them "good" capitalist royalists please ignore the poverty and exploitation k thx

    HW's story really sucks whenever it returns to old areas.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine playing this game for the story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont have to imagine it when its reality, WoWsister.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The story is that dragons need help against other dragons and you go and press a big button in each of the zone to unlock world quests. The end.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the story is that Frodo needs to destroy a ring and then you turn 1000 pages and he does.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >then you turn 1000 pages and he does-

            n't and God has to step in, then they go home and things suck and Frodo dies alone

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Baldur's Gate II
    >Nalia being a seeming copy of Imoen, appearance included.
    >Someone teaching Imoen how to combat the Bhaal essence ("he has shown me how to make it vulnerable").
    >The entire Firkraag plotline being shredded and cut.
    >The Illithid conspiracy. --> This is actually the basis for the first act of Baldur's Gate III
    >The outro shows some unknown cabal monitoring the Bhaalspawn from the shadows.

    I used to be a fanatic of the series, and there are so many plotpoints/ideas that go nowhere it hurts.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one ever mentions jury trials again, and the only time we see them is victorian fucking england

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just the kinds of concessions you have to make with an MMO.
    They wanted the characters to be fugitives as we go into Ishgard but there's no way you can lock out old areas in a fucking MMORPG, so they had to write around that while being able to keep with the themeing of the fugitive thing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They wanted the characters to be fugitives as we go into Ishgard but there's no way you can lock out old areas in a fucking MMORPG, so they had to write around that while being able to keep with the themeing of the fugitive thing.

      Sounds like making us fugitives is a bad idea that shouldn't have been attempted if there was no way to do it right.

      "Come help us fight dragons, gate's open" was literally the only motivation needed to start HW. The retconned 2.55 events were as pointless as they were annoying (fight back WoL you coward, even Thancred manages to do better ffs).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Come help us fight dragons, gate's open"
        Except the whole story of Heavensward hinges on the gate NOT being open and them not actually wanting our help, to the point where one of the first things that happen in the story is your party getting accused of heresy and subjected to trial by combat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aymeric wants us there, and is wheeling and dealing for outside help from the first scene he appears.

          Politics among factions is very Game of Thrones, which is what the writers were watching at the time.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Knights of the Old Republic II
    >The True Sith
    >Revan's true goals and purpose
    >Wounds in the Force
    >The Exile following him into the Unknown Regions

    Instead we jump a hundred years forward, and get a shitty novel.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no impact
    thancred and yshtola are still fucked up, minfilia is still dead, rauhbahn still doesn't have an arm and the lalagarden gnome behind the fake death felt bad enough about all these consequences that he donated all of the other lalagarden gnomes money + a bunch of his own to nanamo to do with as she sees fit which plays into the later subplot where nanamo can actually lead her own damn country a little instead of being a pure figurehead as the ~~*monetarists*~~ run completely unchecked

    oh yeah, and ilberd being forced to flee from uldah pushes him towards doing his gryphon bullshit, which people argue is the single moment that makes the entire next three expansions after hw play out the way they do.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rauhbahn still doesn't have an arm

      cosmetic changes aren't impact. he fights more and better since being disarmed, they even try to make out that he's a threat in the 3.x chapters.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>>>/vg/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no impact
    >main party split up until mid-Heavensward
    >Minfillia forced to die off screen saving the First
    >main character forced to flee to Ishgard
    >Y'shtola gets blinded forever
    >Raubahn loses his arm
    >establishes Ilberd as a villain
    >monetarist gang leader gets sliced in half

    It did have impact, you're just a retard.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Ul'dah conspiration is unironically the reason most of the events in the game happen.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, talking about videogames on Ganker is so hard.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Minfilia is dead and Y'shtola is blind
    >Thancred is magicless, which constantly fucks him over from HW to ShB
    >Alisaie was proven right after Alphinaud gets embarrassed after getting politically fucked over
    >Literally all these things still affect the plot several expansions later

    >"B-BUH THE WOMANCHILD PINK LALAFELL THAT BARELY SHOWS UP IN THE PLOT DIDN'T DIE AFTER ALL SO THAT MEANS ARR'S ENDING IS POINTLESS!!!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Most significant plot moment in the entire ARR actually was completely meaningless

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Was it? The monetarists are still the people governing uldah. The sultana is in charge in name only

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally nothing of value would get accomplished if Nanamo ended her royal bloodline since she was only the face while the Syndicate already have a tight economical grasp on Ul'dah. Plus Ul'dah entirely runs solely on it's economics so if anything she would've make the nation if the coup d'etat didn't transpire.

        was proven right
        Wasn't Alisaie's point that she didn't trust an organization like the Scions?

        She didn't trust them because the Scions were being used as mouthpieces to bridge peace to a shakey alliance to take out the big bad. Alphinaud trusted the Eorzeans to get their shit together when he should've solely invested on the WoL instead of the Scions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Alphinaud trusted the Eorzeans to get their shit together when he should've solely invested on the WoL instead of the Scions.
          I mean, he didn't invest in the Scions (beyond helping rescue them) at all, he tried to form his own separate organization and cannibalized the Scions' contacts and influence to kickstart it, then it turned out he hired a bunch of corrupt dipshits that hijacked the operation. If anything he drained the Scions pretty hard until he redeemed himself in HW and helped find all the ones that got lost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was proven right
      Wasn't Alisaie's point that she didn't trust an organization like the Scions?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny that this shit is the only FFXIV spoiler I just cannot escape from. I literally see it everywhere! And I doubt it's the biggest spoiler of all the expansions that game got.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the first big twist in the game and almost every single other twist from then on can often be traced back to it somehow. It's also the big moment where most players get hooked. But no, it's nowhere near the biggest spoiler you could get.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i got annoyed at the fact she wasnt dying so my character being a support could have healed right there without problem

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I sure hope we don't get a second wowfugee avalanche soon.

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