>game has minor differences only autists can notice
>failing to notice it fucks you over
>game has minor differences only autists can notice. >failing to notice it fucks you over
>game has minor differences only autists can notice
>failing to notice it fucks you over
Retard
P
p
WOOOOW THESE LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME ENGLISH IS SO HAAAAAARD
that's because they are literally the same letter you autistic fuck
>ニッゲル vs ニツゲル
>フェッゴット vs フェツゴツト
Learn the difference, it could save your life.
Isn't one with a bigger smile than the other? That means the one with a bigger smile is better since it means more happy
>being happy
>being allowed in modern society
KEKAROOOOOOO
I feel like it should be Fa rather than Fe in this case.
Is there even a word for "homosexual", or some other means to call someone gay in a derogatory way in Japanese? Or do they just copy Americans and just say homo?
"Okama" and "homo".
ホモ野郎
>フェ
>not ファ
Anon...
>フェ
>ゲル
at least you didn't say gei
watashi wa gei
homosexualto is with fa not fe, retard
What is the difference between big vs small characters? I can clearly see the difference especially with the smiley face one ツ but what is the reasoning? Does the word totally change just because the character got bigger?
ッ = pause for one beat
ツ = read as "tsu"
you "hold" the following consonant instead of pronouncing the letter itself
it sounds way harder than it actually is and you get used to it very quickly
sftu feggot
Sokuon deez nuts
Gottem!
basado
rumao
raffuxingu mai assu offu
ror
ww
das some king shit right there my nigga
www
This is all I have to say on the matter as well. trippy bippy
I KNEEL
What is this bodytype called?
Circle.
Patrick Star
do arabs really?
Chinchin ga daisuki nanda yo
Sure takes me back
In practice is not that hard, but yes it could be better
What's their purpose?
につが ni tsu ga
にっが ni gga
Top right is for stretching vowels
Bottom right is for stretching consonants
出来ないーちゃん strikes again.
Don't listen to
, they're both used in the same way. Don't ask why, they just exist, okay?
It's really obvious once you get used to it
Plus it's very irregular to just see a random tsu show up that's actually meant to be pronounced in the middle of a word
Can you also not tell apart upper/lowercase latin letters?
uppercase i vs lowercase L
I . l
go ahead and tell me which one is which *without cheating*, just looking
i . L is what it looks like
The I just looks bigger. This type of thing also isn't something you have to recognize, it doesn't come up
yes true, correct as well i . L , I just put whatever was above it right under it
I just use the standard Ganker font I installed when I made my account here the first time
why do you have an account
so I can check how many (You)'s I've got saved up so I can buy the Ganker Pass™ with them
This is a failure of font design.
sure that's I and l
First is eye, second is ehl. Try using a non-shit font.
>pronouncing a single letter as 3 different ones
Why do Anglos not find anything wrong with this?
We've got 44 sounds and 26 characters
something must give
the phonetic pronunciation is in the dictionary if you really need it
The first one is obviously I and the second one is L
They're both |
Fonts really fucked these two. I write my I’s like this still
I tried to post the exact same image and talking point.
Why the fuck are you using a uppercale I(i) out of nowhere?
Stop using retarded fonts.
That's like the least of the script problems.
Unless someone has shit handwriting this would never happen.
shit handwriting is very common
>Unless someone has shit handwriting this would never happen.
[laughs in doctor]
Shit is the default state of handwriting. Being good requires effort.
It's like using so much English is a bad idea or something
it's weird to me that nips are illiterate for most if not their entire lives
what a terrible language and education system
That's what you get for turning jap into nu-engrish. Eat shit homosexuals
Just reading a book about Hokkaido. Fun stuff.
Leave it to a retarded anime troon to think they all three look the same. Maybe if you intentionally draw ri in a completely retarded way sure.
Every time i see this i remember how many people pretend Japanese is muh hardest language. It's not, you're just retarded and memed yourself into never being able to do anything.
It's the same as when people go 'i can't draw' yeah sure cause you've never tried for more than 15 seconds retarded stick figure homosexual anyone can draw just practice
U can also learn that none of those look alike by i dunno maybe reading some more?? Retarded homosexuals
It's really easy to notice on common fonts. Handwriting can fuck you over
If you actually bother to learn the language beyond a week then it's not really that difficult
>game has minor differences only autists can notice
>failing to notice it fucks you over
>C c
>O o
>P p
>S s
>Z z
>V v
Who the fuck came up with this shit? Literally impossible.
>d b
>W M
wtf did they mean by this?
>Я R
ITS RIDGE RACER
how do you type that backwards b?
>5
>S
>Z
>2
literally impossible
d-_-b
Literally me
Listening to metal
m/ d(>_<)b m/
That's more of a cosmetic difference. Upper and lower case letters are still the same letter.
>d
>p
>b
>q
who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>dp bbq
Sound likely a lovely evening
>d
>p
>b
based, I get it
>q
cringe, wtf
Those are all quite different since mirror images of things tend to actually be pretty obviously visibly different. Probably the least different are s and z. Maybe v an u.
Though, the kana aren't that hard either. You just get used to it.
Bro, if you mix uppercase latin and lowercase latin letters nothing happens. If you mix up the small japanese letters and the large ones you literally get a completely different word.
mixing b, q and p would also be catastrophic. english is just impossible
Now you are mixing different letters, and not uppercase and lowercase. That would be like mixing い and り or さ and ち. Similar yet distinct letters.
>Now you are mixing different letters
yes, so? my point is that both are easy and a non issue, people are just used to one and not the other
hey beter
If you mix upper and lowercase letters people think you're a redditor
>iF yOu MiX uPpErCaSe lAtIn AnD lOwErCaSe LaTiN lEtTeRs NoThInG hApPeNs
it makes little difference, just do everything in lowercase and people won't mind
it will look a little strange when i don't capitalize certain things like "john smith", but it doesn't hurt anything
IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT TO READ ALL CAPS IF YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED THOSE CHARACTERS, BUT CAPITAL LETTERS LOOK SIMILAR TO LOWERCASE WHICH MAKES IT EASY.
>CAPITAL LETTERS LOOK SIMILAR TO LOWERCASE
You're only saying this because you know the language and blank out the glaring differences.
Most capital letters look like their lowercase versions. There are exceptions of course, but it cuts way down on an already tiny number of characters you have to learn.
The hard part of english is pronunciation.
I was gonna write a whole response but I got stuck thinking about how weird it is that we interpret allcaps as yelling
as
said, you're biased because you grew up with the latin alphabet.
And sure, a lot of the alphabet just takes a letter and makes it bigger when it comes to capitalization.
But just in that sentence, there are letters that have significant differences whether capitalized or not.
I = i
T = t
M = m
G = g
H = h
B = b
E = e
D = d
L = I
A = a
et cetera et cetera.
Many of the ones you listed as exceptions look alike.
T looks like t
M looks like m
I looks like i
They're not identical, but they don't have to be.
No one should have problems with this in the digital age, any font makes the distinction quite clear. Handwritten is a different story however.
Now シ and ツ there's you dekinai litmus test.
I can tell the difference but i always forget which one makes which sound
First one is shi and the second one is tsu, right?
correct
Both look pretty distinct to me. I changed the style and it still looks different. Much more than っ&つ
bro, your font rendering...
He badly needs to run the ClearType calibration tool, holy fuck.
just draw a line through the two smaller lines. ツ becomes つ and シ becomes し.
>A Å Ä Á
>O Ö
>Same letter but some dots
What were they thinking?
Japanese also has this:
カガ, ハバパ
and it's way more annoying in japanese because if the font or hand writing sucks or the resolution is really bad etc you can actually confuse the variations whereas in for example german you will never confuse a ä, ö o, ü, u
>し+シ=も
What the fuck
Fuck this shitsu.
Japan needs to redo their written language. Pick a single alphabet and introduce some punctuation.
>Rầu rỉ râu ria ra rậm rạp, râu ra, râu rụng, rầu rỉ rầu.
Oh yeah, so much better.
Fuck off, Nguyen.
is there an uglier alphabet than nu viet?
So viet.
they've gone through phases of trying it out and it's always been the same result: they're fucking fine with it
They learned how to use quotation marks.
>Japan needs to redo their written language. Pick a single alphabet and introduce some punctuation.
Unfeasible due to sheer number of homophones. Japanese is a syllable-based language and there's a very limited number of pronouncable sounds, so a lot of stuff ends up sounding exactly the same aside from minor tonal differences. The only individually working consonant is ん and it can only be used after another syllable, other syllables are all comprised of a consonant-vowel combination. Compare that to something like Korean and Chinese where you can string together consonant and vowel sounds nilly willy akin to English.
Is that the extent of the Korean "alphabet"? Doesn't seem so bad because they only use one script right
That isn't all. They can also string end consonants, consonant, gemination and other shit for various different characters: essentially one character works a bit like kanji, but instead of ideogram radicals it's wholly about pronounciation.
For example:
- 한글 "hangeul" has two characters, but they can be broken down further.
- 한 is comprised of "h" sound (the circle with the hat), "a" (two lines in right) and "n" (line at bottom).
- 글 is comprised of "k" sound, which is pronounced softer as "g" (top line that goes down), "eu" (vertical line in middle) and "l" (the thing at bottom)
Okay I'm lost. One east asian language at a time for me kek
One thing that helps with Korean is that the grammar is extremely similar to Japanese. Both also have some shared Chinese and English loan words that sound vaguely similar. However if you've ever learned Japanese before studying Korean, you're going to fucking miss kanji and curse the Hangul writing system.
Yeah Hangul is the favorite cope of the lazy and the unmotivated.
People like to whine about how the nips should have made something like hangul, probably cause they're too lazy to learn kanji, but nip phonology really is too simple for something like it or the latin alphabet and without tone and context you have irl which themselves are already a bit reliable it gets impossible to differentiate shit that's spelled the same and pronounced the same. Kanji helps TREMENDOUSLY with that.
In fact, it's the main reason why technical documents and research papers in Korea are still chock full of hanja, cause even Korean with it's vastly more expansive set of sounds as compared to nip, with 14 vowels and 10 consonants, begins having trouble because of all the chinese derived homonyms. Read any goddamn korean law or legal document and you'll know what I mean.
Hangul vs Kanji+Kana are like mirrors of each other where reading Hangul is piss easy but then you run into shit like 철두철미 or 힘들도 너무 좋고 which would be leagues easier to parse in written form if it had Hanja, and learning how to read Kanji is a monumental hurdle but reading nip becomes piss easy afterwards (except nanori, fuck that shit).
tl;dr none of you homosexuals even speak Korean so quit using it as an excuse for why you suck at Japanese
which themselves are already a bit unreliable*
North Korea uses only hangul and they seem no worse for it.
japanese should have punctuation thats a hill ill die on
It does if you read books for children
it does, you can use 、。or whatever the fuck all you want
japs just don't cause it honestly isn't needed.
also the quotation marks they use look like 「these」
Actually why doesn't it? They don't usually use full stops do they?
Oh, I think
Is right and that's AZERTY with the diacritic keys.
QWERTZ has comma and full stop turn into colon and semi colon when you hit shift though which is nice.
They use punctuation 、。in everything written within the last 80 years.
is this you?
We need parts in the language
you say this and yet dont use proper punctuation either
curious
commas and full stops aren't just in kids books, everything uses it now. Also commas don't actually have a grammatical use in japanese, they were just adapted relatively recently and now they're used in a vernacular context whenever you want to add a bit of a pause to written prose. I don't really know the history of the maru 。though. I think it was mainly used as like training wheels in chinese writing where eventually you were expected to get along without it but then it started becoming more used in japanese concurrent with western influence tho I don't know if this was before or after ww2. Japanese as a language is really interesting specifically because its a kinda wacky jumbled together mess of chinese systems grafted onto a totally different existing spoken language. But over thousands of years of time its gained its own very distinctive poetic beauty and flavor and I still think relative a lot of other languages its not too hard to break into as a second language learner. Kanji might seem like a hurdle but anyone who takes this shit seriously will see what a boon it is in the long run to the learner.
I don't get why you'd put 'the dot' in the name of a foreigner but then not do that to regular names like you break down ロジャー・ブラウン but you don't do the same for 柴田勲
I do speak asiatic and am confused by your example of 힘들도 너무 좋고. Isn't it just "even though it's difficult it's very good"? Or is there some other meaning I'm too dumb to understand? 철두철미 just seems like a vestigal aphorism lifted straight from chinese that gets a bit lost in translation and modern context
>Japan needs to redo their written language
The fact it filter amerimutts like yourself is why its perfect, low IQ retards would never get into it
unironically this
the fact that japanese is too hard for americans and english is too hard for japanese people is what kept japan from keeping their sovl
It's really bizarre to find out most japanese people instantly forget any english they learn the moment they get out of school
They literally just did redo it after ww2. Before that, the spelling was all fucked up and katakana wasn't even written like how it was pronounced, like writing さふ for そう and てつだゐて for てつだって
力 カ
惑 感
未 末
>力 カ
>未 末
WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE?
Get a better font, retard.
In the context.
A broad broad abroad covering broad topics. Its almost like even in English we use context to understand the meaning of certain words.
>In the context.
They are literally different characters, retardo. You may mistake them at the first glance, but you don't explicitly need to rely on context to tell them apart.
I know retardo, what I'm telling you is that you can only confuse them out of context. Because in context you will at a glance recognize them as the correct character, hell you will probably be even able to swap them out and most people won't notice. And even that only with shitty font. Since for the bottom two the difference should be in the length of the top line and having it 1px is jus shitty.
力 カ are easy to distinguish based on context, but yeah, the katakana syllable "ka" is based on the kanji for power ("chikara" or other pronounciation depending on whether it's part of compound word) so they're written exactly the same, though word processors give them a slight font difference. Same shit as English I (ai) and l (el).
未 末 former clearly has a shorter horizontal upper stroke in comparison to lower one, vice versa for the latter.
chikara, ka
waku, kan
hituji, sue
The one with horizontal lines is "shi" because the dead lie flat.
shi and tsu, right?
I actually love games that reward you for being completely autistic and obsessing over details. Papers Please is the first one that comes to mind- you have to cross check the name, photo, DoB, expiration, passport number, issuing city, etc.
There aren't enough games that actively reward autistic attention to detail, any recs?
Return of the Obra Dinn is autistic attention to detail: the puzzle.
I mean yeah the same guy made Obra Dinn and that game is also fantastic. I didn't find it to be as autistic though, you just kinda look around scenes at your own pace and can put 2 and 2 together if you're not retarded. There isn't a need to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the game ready to apply at a moment's notice, pretty much everything can be solved by just observing the scene and the process of elimination.
I've owned Outer Wilds for years and never played it, maybe I'll finally give it a go!
If you think identifying the random Chinese sailors did not require autistic attention to detail, then don't waste your time with Outer Wilds, it doesn't require nearly that level of focus.
there were only three or four of them and the match three system made it too easy to use trial and error to guess. Apparently looking at their shoes or something was the "right" way to do it? I remember them being some of the earliest I got correct once I realized the other yeller fellers were Formosan
Obra dinn
Outer wilds
Blame the romans
The romans have no fault, the had phonetical consistency. It's bong retards who chose to pronunce every letter in a billion different ways.
In TF2 you can track down other players by the sound of the gun and context.
>sokuon
Soku on what?
my first thought exactly
maboruzu
🙂
>game is literally impossible
cursive zs are stupid
>cursive z is る
it's not even english anymore
That sure doesn't look like the cursive that I was taught to write.
there's no standard
There are different types of standard cursives taught based on country and era, you loon.
It's Italian cursive.
Ah, okay. I'd never seen it before. I of course write in English cursive, but I picked up a bad habit of just using print capital letters instead of the cursive ones since my cursive capitals usually look pretty fugly
I cant read cursive
what retarded form of cursive is this supposed to be?
You consider that hard?
Fucking cirilic cursive is literally nightmare fuel.
>be me in class
>drawing random scribbles on my notebook because i'm bored
>russian classmate next to me stares at me like i just killed his mother
Minimum, easy to read.
oh jeez, we're just as bad as the russians
munumum
Пипcтим?
I know it's minimum, but it's still confusing to read.
dot the i ffs
do you not add dots on your i's?
intentionally trying to be illegible to prove point
I failed the test, I thought it said munimum. It becomes obvious after checking the correct answer though.
That's why i has that little shit on top of it, you know.
FTFY
kdo smoret pro??a?? ? niger
t.non cyrillic slav
Pretty close. The last word's pidor, not niger.
It says "if you can read this you're a fag"
yeah i figured
the d looking exactly like a latin g threw me off
still got the message though
Eблo, ты кaк "пидop" кaк "шyлep" нaпиcaл? A тaк ничo тaк...
Nigga might as well just be writing in fucking wingdings.
SOVL
we need to go back
what does it say?
"A great god is Ahuramazda, the greatest of the gods, who created this earth, who created yonder sky, who created man, created happiness for man, who made Xerxes king, one king of many, one lord of many.
I (am) Xerxes, the great king, king of kings, king of all kinds of people, king on this earth far and wide, the son of Darius the king, the Achaemenid.
Xerxes the great king proclaims: King Darius, my father, by the favor of Ahuramazda, made much that is good, and this niche he ordered to be cut; as he did not have an inscription written, then I ordered that this inscription be written.
Me may Ahuramazda protect, together with the gods, and my kingdom and what I have done."
ugh bro thought that tablet was his blog post. no one cares, the Greeks won.
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine
Fuck Ea-nasir that little shit sold me poor quality copper
The pleasure of being cummed inside
"ur a faget"
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Oh sweet another word wall!
UUUU
NYC
NYC
NYC
NYC
NYC
NYC
Why does this exist?
>he doesn't know about wingdings
I'm 35. We used to fuck around with this font in computer class on our 95s. Sounds like the first concept of emojis
To easily insert symbols into text in Windows. It's been around for a while
I know russian for almost 40 years, we used that shit since junior school, and I still can't read this. Almost no one can read whatever the fuck doctors write.
Cursive is deprecated for a good fucking reason.
What do you mean deprecated? They still teach you how to write cyrillic cursive in russian schools.
Nobody in the real world "writes" anything anymore.
I did just write this in real world
Prove your skills.
>I wrote to win an argument with faceless strangers on a Mongolian basketweaving forum
This is NOT what I mean by "real world" writing retard.
Who the FUCK writes things on pen and paper for any practical reason in 2023?
Taking notes on e.g. mathematics is much easier using pen and paper.
Certain kinds of notes I take are much easier to write out than to type. And you can draw and doodle at the same time. It's much a more freeform experience. I feel like I'm being rigid and creative at the same time rather than being constrained to just one format like on a screen
I mean it's objectively inferior shit that no sane person will use in their daily life.
The main purpose of the school is to make you a proper goy member of society. Everything else is just a side effect. Especially fucking gulag slav schools with their propaganda bullshit and ancient teaching methods and outdated textbooks.
I literally just gave you an example where cursive proves useful. It's designed to be written comfortably in a fast manner, it's good for taking notes on subjects where it's easier to use p&p outside of the usual prose, so you don't have to context-switch all the time.
That's not real words right? It's a bullshit pic for memes and giggles right?
average doctor's handwriting
Correct
If you can't read this, you're non-white.
I still write in cursive when I handwrite stuff. We were forced to do all assignments in cursive from 3rd grade all the way to the end of high school in my district.
I can read cursive just fine but the old homosexuals who still write in cursive have devolved it into illegible squiggly lines that mean nothing
I used to have a manager at work who wrote exclusively in this weird cursive derivative that they apparently invented because it looked nothing like the shit we got taught in schools and I had to spend 10 minutes deciphering a paragraph when she could have written in in plain text like a fucking normal person
yes, well done, reader, well done...
HOWEVER
isn't this stenography?
>Even in the 19th century, however, an ability to read court hand was considered useful for anyone who had to deal with old court records
Yeah shorthand
looks like enochian
>Enochian
Feels like a massive oversight that there is no Enochan-Aztec inspired artwork given John Dee's usage of the smoking mirror
those are literally fucking scribbles
every letter is a bunch of scribbles when you think about it
that's shorthand, a special alphabet meant to be very fast to write. Used to be used by court stenographers before machines for it were common
I was gonna learn this as a kid. Seemed really cool. Changed my mind though. Would have been super useful. I was in school before cheap lightweight tablets and laptops
>cracker runes
I remember learning cursive and getting to the p's, and everyone (but the teacher) and their parents decided it was retarted to draw open small case p's.
w ae y z
that font is certainly too neat to filter illiterates
>bothers
>mistake in the first sentence
kk
I fixed it for you, Anon-kun.
why does cursive scare americans? your education system isn't any better
I've read somewhere that they actually have to properly write those gay letters instead of smearing something vaguely shaped like them onto the paper as long as the teacher can still decipher it.
Pretty easy to understand unless it's written by a doctor
The fuck kind of cursive is that?
>his lower case p has a complete circle
Soulless
what retard made the capital cursive Q a 2? The Z doesn't even look like anything either.
That is a great question and one I've often thought about while writing cursive. Since I was 8. That was THIRTY fucking years ago.
lowercase R and S also piss me off, neither look like an r or and s
It's Italian cursive as another anon pointed out earlier. Look at the filename.
>a b c d are just bigger
yikes
We got taught cursive in school (even had little spelling books to take home and practice in) but I don't think we were taught cursive for capitals. Weird.
Also the cursive lowercase z is wrong.
>that indistinguishable lowercase r and s
Mine are exactly the same
Fuck these cunts for ruining my nice handwriting by teaching me cursive, I unironically wrote better as a 6 year old than as a 26 year old
somewhat similar to the cursive I was taught
now try Sütterlin
>he doesn't know the secret Q
holy barbaric plebian
That cursive looks so stupid. Just look at that upper case A, it's literally lower case but big lmao
I learned this one
I kind of want to learn calligraphy.
What's with the duplicate letters?
I think some spanish speaker made this, there's even a ñ
Spanish is autistic and treats these digraphs as letters of their own.
So glad that I forgot the little Spanish that I knew.
That's fucking weird. I can't imagine that, even stuff like diacritic marked letters getting their own spot on foreign language keyboard layouts is weird to me.
Like, ñ is just an n with a thing on top to me, I can't imagine ll being a different letter and not just two ls.
Germany's layout I think makes the most sense where they've got keys for the diacritics and you just hit that key and then the letter you want to add it to.
I think that's french. äöüß have their own keys and thank god for that
german here, we have dedicated keys for our own frequently used special characters on the keyboard: ä,ö,ü
they never had their own keys, the reasoning behind them is that they made a different sound than their components so it was a way to help children learn their sound and pronunciation or something like that but that distinction stopped in 1994
>Swedish
Å Ä Ö have their own keys. Because they're you know. Actual letters used all the time. Plenty of modifier keys though. For all kinds of things just in case.
only the ñ has a special spot in a keyboard, there's no "ch" or "rr" keys, I imagine the idea to have them in the alphabet is to make sure kids were taught their sound
For some reason until somewhat recently ch and rr were considered unique letters in the spanish alphabet due to them having different sounds, but that distinction stopped like 20-30 years ago
>considering CH and LL as completely new letters
amigo, solo ponte a pensar en un instante, alguna vez has visto a alguna persona escribir su apellido como "CHavez" or algo por el estilo?
Ever since kindergarten my parents, teachers, older siblings, and pretty much any adult would scare the shit out of me about how all my work needed to be in cursive writing when I get to jr.high and high school. I had god fucking awful handwriting that never improved even to this day and couldn't even read the shit I wrote in cursive, not to mention it took me longer to write in cursive than in print.
They'd say things like
>"You're going to be writing 8 page essays, front and back, in cursive in high school"
>"Your teachers are going to throw your work in the garbage if your paper isn't in cursive"
>"You're never going to get a job if you don't know cursive"
Just on and on about how important cursive was. The worst part was they also wanted you to write in cursive with a pen for all your work. That shit was near impossible for me no matter how hard I tried. My middle school papers would look like a murder scene, ink everywhere. They'd even punish you for having bad handwriting by making you write something a hundred times so I was always on the list. It might not have been seen as a "punishment" punishment but felt like one. It was more of boomer logic, "do something a thousand times = you'll be better at it" but for me, I never got better.
Craziest part was when I finally got to high school, it was like cursive never existed. They threw that shit rule out the window by the time I got to jr.high and pretty much none of the stuff peopled told me end up happening. Then years later, you stop seeing it being used pretty much anywhere. I still remember how rough with us people were about cursive though, like it was life or death.
dunno where you live but everything hand written has to be in cursive here
That sounds awful. It was kind of the opposite for me, I only really learned cursive and 'unlearning' it was a fucking hassle.
That sounds awful. At our job if we have to get written stuff from outside parties we've had to put in bold letters PLEASE ANSWER IN BLOCK CAPITALS because otherwise it's a crap shoot as to whether it's legible or not. Fucking doctors.
Before computers became ubiquitous, nearly everything was in cursive, especially at work. My first real office job was transcribing notes from lawyers, so literally just reading hundreds of thousands of pages of cursive and typing it out.
So they werent lying to you or anything, its just they didnt see computers becoming so popular. Not being able to read cursive would have basically meant you were illiterate.
Brown hands typed this post
We learn cursive in literally first grade
god that's fucking awful we got taught this garbage in my school as the way to write everything
thats not how a cursive "z" looks like
I know this stuff is dead now but I still write this way on my eink tablet
Not much different from l and I.
نيقر
israelite?
يهودي
هاهاها
فاگۆت
سوک آن دیز
>la la la
What did he mean by this?
للل Щ
>Jii Щ
нeпoнятнo
bottom row is literally the
>looks at computer
>looks at you
meme
that would be シ ツ
>game developer steals someone else's code
>game dev copies someone else's idea and adds a bunch of unnecessary shit to overcomplicate things
yeah dude gimme that 12 different contextual pronunciations of 生, can't get enough of that shit. I started with moon runes since the grammar is similar to Korean but holy shit Mandarin is so much easier
That's your own fault. Learn words, not pronunciations, retard.
>i-I
>l-L
Is it loss?
زنجي صهيوني شاذ جنسيا
Goatfucker.
A Taiwanese friend told me she's surprised that my nephews get to play all afternoon after kindergarten, because Chinese kids have to study their shitty writing system every day
tl;dr Asians are retarded
The analogies in this thread are some of the most retarded ones I've seen holy shit
The only time I've ever seen that it isn't obvious is vertical text.
that's obvious unless you are just starting out
I thought 口コミ was rokomi for the longest time.
AI will translate everything soon why bother
What if I'm reading or writing something racist and offensive? Are you going to trust your AI to translate that properly?
Not even people can translate Japanese accurately, what makes you think AI will?
Because the "people" who translate are usually bottom of the barrel who barely understand the source material and are all but happy to rewrite half the script so that it conforms to their own personal agenda and sensibilities.
AI just translates, and with LLMs it understands context too now. While it still isn't perfect it's a damn sight better than the localizer scum that works on video games.
>While it still isn't perfect
and it never will be but enjoy your shitty "lightly edited" machine translations I guess since that's the rage nowadays
Better than heavily edited localizer headcanon. Half of them don't even understand Japanese or English and they still translate. I'd take an AI effort over those animals anyday.
Still waiting to hear a single example of something an AI can't translate though.
until there is a magical way to burn your synapses in the exact pattern to produce fluency in another language you do need to bother
cope, AI is still getting filtered hard
>AIはまだ制限がかかっています。
Give me an example of something it can't translate.
>what do you mean you need your computer to read it? haven't you been studying for quite some time now?
渓流は岩にはじかれるようにあちこちに向きをかえところどころに氷のように冷ややかなよどみを作っていた.
>にわにはにわにわとりがいる
Translation: There are two chickens in my garden.
Have funĄ
Ez because the topic particle is always written with は.
庭には二羽鶏がいる
ez
i was only missing 羽, close..
>kana salad
Nobody talks or writes for that matter like this.
It'd be 庭にはニワトリが2羽いる
he thinks japanese use particles when speaking. cute
Yes, you could omit `ga` there, but the post that I'm replying to has all the same particles I used. You're not flexing on anybody.
it's literally a famous "tongue twister" dickbiscuit. its 曖昧さ that's literally the point
Exactly, it's ambiguos when phrased that way, that's why nobody would say it like that when there's a much better way.
niwatoriniwatoriniggairu
>二羽
I fucking forgot about counters and how much I hate them, I usually just use ko or tsu for everything that isn't obvious
I still don't get what the difference between 重 or 重ね or 層 is
ok please tell me what's the first step to learn japanese? I want to be free of dog shit "translators" but I don't really have a clue where to start
1: learn hiragana
2: learn katakana
3: come back for advice when you're done with that
The very first baby step is learning hiragana. You bitch.
This guy is great
I agree, I still have the te-form conjugation table permanently lodged into my brain because of him and can recite it in my sleep.
go to /jp/, look for DJT, ignore the guide and instead ask 100 questions
https://learnjapanese.moe/routine/
There is a popular site that has podcast type lessons, videos, and flashcards. Highly suggest going a more professional, guided route if you actually want to learn. Theres nothing worse than plateauing in a language
1. Memorize hiragana and katakana, either by brute forcing or googling mnemonics. Use Anki flashcard software with a kana deck. Should take a week or two at most.
2. Start studying grammar and kanji at the same time, learning the latter through vocabulary and context. Again, utilize Anki by using pre-made vocab decks or make your own decks: start learning kanji ASAP and don't postpone it, as it's just a grind which is better started earlier rather than later. Tae Kim's Grammar Guide is a great free source for Japanese grammar.
3. When you feel comfortable enough, start playing porn games, reading websites, manga or other stuff with lots of text, with vocab software such as 10ten Japanese Reader browser extension, japReader, Textractor, AGTH, ITH etc as a crutch. Add new vocab to your self-made vocab decks with something like Yomichan Anki add-on (assuming it still exists).
4. Repeat.
5. ?????
6. Become a Japanese master, at least when it comes to reading and listening comprehension. You'll still need to practice language production (talking and writing) separately if you want, but you don't need either of those if you're learning for the purpose of consuming Japanese media. For the record the JLPT tests are multiple choice questions, so they're easy to clear as well even if you're not good at writing and just learned Japanese for porn games.
learn grammar and just start reading shit. If you have the motivation, make flash cards for all the words you don't know.
First step is to learn the writing systems. Don't knock going to school to learn Japanese if you have the means to do so.
>Here's your motorcycle bro
>オートバイ
you can just say バイク
>ghost toritsuku
kino
>toritsuku
it's a pun on 取り憑く
How do you differentiate words from names? They are all written in kanji.
some kanji are specifically used for names and if it's a common kanji you are already familiar with used in a combination that makes no sense it's usually a name. the sentence itself also makes it clear
Sentence structure. Particles, many honorifics and verb conjugation are all written in kana, so even if a common kanji like 光 ("hikari", light) gets used as a name rather than a regular noun, it's easy to figure out what's meant from the context.
F.ex.
>月の光 ("tsuki no hikari", light of moon)
>光ちゃん ("hikari-chan", Hikari)
ケ
ヶ
>both are supposed to be "ke"
>bottom is used as "ga"
Why does this exist?
it's a lazy way to write 箇
Ok, but what's the purpose of having a small katakana ke and when is it ever used?
if only the internet could give you answers to all the questions you have, oh wait...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_ke
ヶ月
It's not such a big deal because it's in really common terms like 一ヶ月
This isn't confusing beyond being a complete novice.
But it's fucking weird
So is English, 50% of everything we pronounce is an exception to the regular rules. Go cry about it.
Katakana were developed from common shorthand hanzi to form a convenient syllabic alphabet for educated men. The ヶ you see in place names is a shorthand form of 介, which happens to look exactly like the abbreviated character we use in katakana today.
箇 is for months and uses the same abbreviation.
>箇 is for months and uses the same abbreviation.
箇 is not only used form months
Shh, I'm imsomnia-posting.
shhh, go to sleep
Is the 子 in 種子島 the same particle but using an alternate kanji? I cant even find entries of a Ka reading for it.
Old Japanese names must drive all but historians and mailmen insane.
no its more like 種子 is supposed to be read as tane instead of shushi, and the ka just isn't written but "is there"
think of all the unwritten "no"s in ancient noble names like 源頼朝, or imagine still reading 関原 as sekigahara even though the ケ isn't there
isn't 種 by itself tane in kun'yomi?
I thought that the middle kanji was the single non-kun reading.
yes it is tane by itself but 種子 is being given a special nanori (or is it jukujikun?) reading of tane.
It's literally in the wikipedia article of tanegashima
Interesting.
I have zero interest in actually reading japanese so I avoided checking the Japanese article. I just like reading about the logic behind foreign writing.
>first part translates to "tomorrow sunny"
ok
>next part after comma translates to "yesterday not" despite having random ass katakana ke in there
the fuck?
chat gay G T made that shit up about ケ
I guess Chat Gay G T is too retarded to google in Japanese and look at the first search results.
ハレ(晴れ)=儀礼や祭、年中行事などの非日常
ケ(褻)=普段の生活である日常
How, and I mean HOW island monkeys differentiate these? The difference between them is so small a gaijin like myself can't find it on the go.
read for a week or two and you just stop confusing it
How were you able to learn the letter d, and it's backwards brother b without confusion. Or even worse it's devilish rotated cousin p?
n and so are the hardest, and I do admit to mixing them up sometimes. It's usually not a problem though because so isn't very common, but when a weird font gets used, the subtlety between the characters can get lost and they look the same
>Racist is also retarded
Classic combination.
I use ethnic slurs even while talking to my own people. Go be politically correct someplace else, reddit nagger.
bro so points south and n is the other one. Read more words and you'll get better.
How do you differentiate between "to", "too" and "two"?
Why not just make the lines vertical and horizontal, and bnot having to decide if it's a 30 or 35 degree slant, or having to guess what they means when it's a 33 degree slant. And they can't just figure a word out, they have to rotely memorize like 50000 individual words. It really is a shitty writing system, and it's obvious why nobody actually uses it in real life, anymore.
if your first language is english or japanese then you're fated to be functionally illiterate for your entire life
don't even bother, you simply don't have the brain matter developed for actual languages
English is a great foundation for language learning, since it's the Bastard's Tongue and a mess of so many proto-European languages merged into one, you have an innate starting point to branch out into any of them.
Cope, it's easy as fuck to go from English to Spanish, French, German, Italian, Dutch. People just don't bother. It's a two way street though, most Euros don't bother learning English, I lived there and even the young people barely fucking speak a word of it. Japs don't speak a lick of anything besides Nihongo. I can only imagine what retarded language you have in mind as the ideal starting point, but I'll assume Hindi sir
dekinai
Dekitai*
dekinakerebanarimasen*
NIGERO
do japanese even write in cursive? Like people actually writing in renmeitai or kuzushi sousho or gyousho?
i'd imagine it's a lot less practical when it's rarer these days to write top to down
its just small vs big
thats like being unable to differentiate between s and S or o and O
blind fucking retard
>I helped my uncle Jack off his horse.
>I helped my uncle jack off his horse.
I prefer elephant, but it's the same thing.
how do i learn japanese...
i cant memorize the kana
One thing I never understood - learning cursive you learn to do the 'a' that's a little pear shaped circle, like someone sat on an 'o'. Cursive has always seemed the more formal/'fancy' of the scripts. But then non-cursive alphabets have the 'a' that has the little antenna on it that I've always considered the fancier version. I had to teach myself to use that a in handwriting after I left school.
it's designed to flow well from left to right during hand writing without lifting the pen
If you've ever written with an actual ink-pen cursive begins to make way more sense. That's basically why it exists.
Memorize kanji
I WILL learn Japanese!
I will only learn Japanese if I'm promised a Japanese wife.
Deal but she's 49
These are my favourite cursive letters because of how fucky they are.
I once had to draw all the hiragana and katakana characters in 8x8 for a pixelated game. That was not fun, good God. At least I didn't have to draw any Kanji though
We need to turn asia back into a fucking colony again
Make Europe the center of the world again
You start getting used to ろ and る and then this fucker ゑ shows up.
no it doesn't
Stop drinking beer, stupid
literally nobody uses that anymore djt-kun
I've never seen ゑ used anywhere aside from maybe once or twice in some chuuni eroge.
>I've never seen it outside of places where I saw it
I'd argue that's one thing about the English alphabet, none of it really goes unused. Though I guess that's not really equivalent, Japanese letters being more akin to words right?
Kana are phonemes
Kanji are lexigrams
>Though I guess that's not really equivalent, Japanese letters being more akin to words right?
Partly correct. There's three alphabets, hiragana (ひらがな), katakana (カタカナ) which together are usually just called "kana" and share the exact same sounds - latter is usually reserved for loan words and maybe some special uses like sound effects in manga - and kanji (漢字), last of which often have multiple different kana-based pronunciations depending on sentence structure and context, yet usually retain their core meaning. They're all used in tandem.
For example the word "keep out"
- Written properly: 立ち入り禁止
- Meaning of kanji: stand, enter, taboo, stop
- Written with only kana: たちいりきんし
- Pronounciation: tachi iri kinshi
So you can see that kanji are used to confer meaning, while kana are used for pronunciation, conjugation, particles and sentence structure in general. In the above example the kanji take the place of the hiragana sounds: in this "ta", "i", and "kinshi". You could use the same kanji in other words as their own, pronounced differently bu retaining the same core meaning.
F.ex. kanji part in all caps
- 立つ (TAtsu, to stand)
- 入る (HAIru, to enter)
- 禁ずる (KINzuru, to forbid)
- 止める (TOmeru, to stop)
Is it someone making a noise, or is it imitating Okinawaan or something? Some of the really extended kana exist to write Ainu or Ryukyushan words.
Like this funny little fella: ヲ
I wish the Ainu hadn't been genocided. Oh well. I went to the national museum for them. It was cool. Got to see a bear cub.
They didn't get completely genocided, at least? I read earlier this year that some Ainu are suing the Japanese government to regain access to a river for salmon fishing.
I hope so. The language is basically done, but people are trying to learn it. I'm grimly aware of how difficult languages are to recover. But I'm hoping.
Genetically they sort of got mixed out. But when I first went to Sapporo I'd see some Japanese girl who was 6 inches taller and broad as hell (not fat, just broad) and I'd think "Oh, there's an Ainu person."
Same with when you see a Japanese guy with an actual beard.
It's interesting stuff. The Ainu museum is way the fuck out there on Hokkaido, but is very cool, the site is very beautiful. Nice museum.
Post pictures man
(Mine is not Japan btw)
In spoken context it's impossible to differentiate from うえ so it just kinda died out I guess?
>ヲ
That's the katakana for "wo". So, that's basically indistinguishable from "ウオ" since "w" sounds are in Japanese what's called a "semivowel" or a "glide". This is the same as in English.
Basically, the means of production is the same as an "u" sound, but it's heard as a consonant by listeners due to it's placement in a syllable. Kind of interesting if you like phonology.
The thing I'm unclear on is ヲ vs. ウオ is one mora vs. two mora. I'm unclear how distinguishable mora are for native speakers in fast casual speech. It seems significant, you see word pairs still that distinguish between syllable final Ns and syllable starting Ns.
For example, "今夜", tonight, is technically split up as ko n ya rather than ko nya, which is three mora vs. two.
I'm unclear how much that really matters to listeners though. I'm not a native speaker, and so I still struggle with hearing mora in the same way I definitely hear syllables in English. I imagine people can hear it, but I wonder how lossy that signal is.
I was talking about ゑ
Yeah, that one has the same question of one mora vs. two mora. You are probably correct though that they're very hard to distinguish.
Though they still have "wa" which is very similar to "ua" when spoken quickly. So, I have no idea why it stuck around.
Perhaps it's because both "wo" and "wa" are particles, and so they're hard to just get rid of. But, Idunno. This is all conjecture.
Also 湯と言う
>ゑ
>wuz
That one's dead. It can't hurt you anymore.
>just use a better font!!1!
well which one then chuds
Any font with serif is more legible than a sans serif font.
Gill sans. Dog fucker could really design a font.
what a mad lad lmao
>you are unhappy that I fuck dogs, but I have already depicted myself as the chad
As for me? Meiryo
Iosevka slab.
IBM Courier
There's probably some information theoretic way of computing the entropy of various writing systems.
Here's the first article I found discussing this for anyone interested in languages:
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-complexity-steady-evolve.html
I want to start reading stuff in japanese.
What are some beginner friendly materials? Preferably something that will allow me to highlight text so I can look up words.
https://ttu-ebook.web.app
https://annas-archive.org/md5/79fb8f7be2bbe5e32194e5ac4fe04fc6 (kuma bear)
Just drag the file into ttu and read
forgot this site
https://catalog.mokuro.moe/
Manga with text you can use yomichan on
This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
Thanks, anon.
>https://ttu-ebook.web.app
Outdated link but pretty damn neat. Looking up shit always sucks.
yomichan and anime subtitles with asbplayer
Play a video game you like but something simple with babby text. Legend of Zelda worked well for me.
Don't allow yourself to highlight text, if you can't read that shit, looking it up in the dictionary is your punishment that will make you want to never look up the same word twice. If you don't know something, write it down, put it in Anki, remember it, don't look it up twice.
You managed to write that and read all the posts ITT without mistaking l and I. Telling apart つ/っ is easy in comparison.
I recognize that katakana symbol.
For me it's ソ vs. ン, especially when handwritten.
This is my third time trying to learn this god awful language. This is the furthest I’ve progressed so far. Am I gonna make it bros?
The fuck is that?
If you get stuck on the most braindead easy part over and over. Fuck no.
Oh.
>having difficulty with kana
Never going to make it. I gave up after 400 kanji.
Probably not.
making babies with waluigita
you will absolutely never make it, i mean this unironically.
You can make it, but you need to be honest with yourself. You haven't earnestly tried to learn it a single time so far. Try harder! Take a class if you're serious about learning it. You don't have to go it alone.
>forgot ノ
ngmi
This is the easiest one to tell apart from the five so I didn't include it.
Best thread on Ganker, learning foreign grammar was one the most fun and challenging experience I had in my life
>best thread on Ganker isn't even about vidya
>any language ever
you learn best through immersion, don't just memorize but try reading, listening, writing and speaking as much as you can for the best and fastest learning, mindless exercises are terrible for retention and comprehension
>Ganker troons
dude make sure you memorize all these squiggles and then uuuh dunno lol just keep playing the kanji card game I love getting 100%
It really blows my mind that so few people recommend studying the language with other people and insist that you can and should go it entirely alone by playing games and reading manga with a dictionary handy
it's a good idea if you can do it with native speakers but there's nothing that will make you quit learning japanese faster than interacting with the """people""" learning japanese
Surely you've noticed most people on this website are autistic or are extremely antisocial
just like the japanese!
I've started to suspect this after over fifteen years of using it, but jeez if you people really want to learn the language that is a hurdle that needs to be crossed
It's almost like the average retard here doesn't really want to know japanese but just consume the shittiest otaku slop and nothing else from the culture while being able to gloat about his N4 kanji memorization
that's how most ESLs learn English, it's just very effective to listen to people who are already fluent instead of trying to communicate when you can't properly yet
This, I learned english mainly via videogames and tv shows.
School only helped with grammar and sentence structure and whatnot, and even then beyond the very basics I never had to study for english classes because I played vidya and watched shows and spent time online
And the best kind of immersion is living there + getting a gf. You can get language lessons for free & have sex with your teacher after. Win win.
You ought to do both, mate. One can't just jump into the deep end straight away for immersion, however once someone has the basics down (kana + enough grammar to understand most stuff), they ought to immerse themselves in the language by playing games, consuming media, practicing with other language learners and natives if that's your thing, basically anything you actually *want* to do using the language - while also taking notes and learning vocab through stuff like flashcards, preferably ones made yourself since then you're learning the vocab and kanji you're actually using in your hobbies. At some point you have enough vocab and kanji memorized that you can drop flashcards and other crutches entirely, and seeing new stuff becomes akin to learning a new word in your own native language.
Shit like drawing is the same deal: first practice the boring fundies to get the bare basics down and understand what you ought to roughly do, then start drawing stuff you actually want to draw (using references, learning stuff and expanding your visual library related to your chosen topic), while also practicing fundies that can be applied to any topic.
I've learned drawing and I know that this logic is backwards, you will never improve unless you already like drawing for the sake of it regardless of how good you are, in fact thinking you must learn beforehand until you're allowed to draw what you want is a terrible mentality that will make you hate drawing.
Yeah, that's why I specified bare basics. If you suffer from shit like symbol drawing and don't understand the basics of perspective, lineart and rendering, or where to even begin improving, it's a very good idea to read and watch some tutorials and practice them, so you don't have to spend time reinventing the wheel. You don't have to master all the fundies first of course, instead you ought to alternate between drawing what you enjoy and fundie exercises, possibly applying the knowledge gained from latter into stuff you want to draw.
I will never learn Japanese because I'm not a fucking underaged weeb loser who thinks "GYAHHHHH, IF ONLY I WAS BORN IN NIPPON, WOULD I BE SO LUCKY TO HAVE FRIENDS AND A GIRLFRIEND SENPAI AND MY LIFE WOULD BE JUST LIKE AN ANIME~~~~"
I also don't care if I read a mistranslation. If it provides enough of an issue I will look up the original and move on with my life.
Don't be a David
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I'm learning Japanese because I think the language is neat and I want to visit one day and know that Japanese english comprehension is on average about as good as your average european toddler.
You should try going to a language school there if you're really interested. You can do two years for like 20k right now.
I'm in the middle of other studies at the moment.
>implying I'm only going to visit once for a week
Unless I visit once and end up hating it for some reason, I'll likely be back. Besides, when I go abroad I don't seek generic tourist shit, I tend to go to the less-visited places and I want to meet local people candidly.
Also if I somehow make enough money to never have to work again, I'll consider moving to japan or at least having a second home there just to hang out for months or years at a time.
>I'm in the middle of other studies at the moment.
I get it. Keep it in mind. I'm sort of setting up to go to a Japanese language academy after studying Japanese in college, but going into a different field. Now, a bit down the road I'm financially well set up and am looking to take a year to do this thing. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
>Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
Hey, you too anon
unless you have some very specific interests I'd recommend setting aside 7-10 days for the generic tourist shit (which I consider to be Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and day trips from there).
There's a reason everyone goes there and it's much easier to hang out with locals than in bumfuck inaka
If you're eventually just visiting for a week doing tourist shit you're wasting your time.
I want to learn more japanese so I can watch anime without being quite so reliant on subtitles.
There's a lot of value in being able to look away and still understand what's going on.
I've picked up a smattering of words and grammer just by osmosis, but I've pretty much plateaued.
In order to go further I need to read the words. But that's being gatekept by Japan's horrible written language system.
If there was a simple kanji to romaji converter I would just do that. I don't really care about reading japanese text. I just want to use it to bolster my understanding of the spoken text.
imagine learning a language just consoom the most tranny slop form of media more effectively.
I think most people are forced to learn english
anime is the most based form of media available
untouched by israeli hands or oppressive government
>he doesn't know about the Japanese government contacting BlackRock so they can make Japanese pop culture more in line with western values.
It's over. Anime is already compromised.
there is more old anime than i can possibly consoom b4 i die
this
>got fired from his swiss banker job because his yt vids were too unhinged
insanely based
what does he do now though? didn't they ban all his social media accounts
giwtwm
need a qrd on this atrocity
this
qrd?
It's easy to notice. They're literally smaller than the kanji they're sandwiched between. That's like being unable to see an apostrophe, it's right there.
On a side note, it took me forever to understand grammar particle usage, in particular を. I just had to watch more anime to understand that you can use it in place of は or when you've already used は or が to identify the sentence subject.
>password has uppercase, lowercase and numbers
>write down password
>try next day
>doesn't work
AAAAAAAAA
using different color pens was the easy fix,
but man I'm glad password systems pretty much vanished
when a cat does this pose, in japanese you say 香箱を作る it turns into an incense box 香箱座り lol
when a cat does this pose, in japanese you say "fuckable little...."
neko fakku
How is that any stupider than calling it a loaf of bread?
did i say it was stupid?
I'm learning Japanese because I want to move there and teach English. vシv
You're over a decade late for that train lol
How so? I know people that went over there right before COVID, and the country's open again.
No, he's not, lol. Globalization can be pretty based in some ways.
Exactly. I had a good chat with a Japanese lady I bought some stuff from on eBay who was talking about this
Here's an easy way to remember. Shi makes a + sign through the katakana shi, and tsu makes a + sign through the katakana tsu. If it's the opposite you can't make a + sign with them so that's how you remember.
It's not about remembering, it's about fonts and shitty handwriting making it hard to distinguish.
"look at this Japanese girl, "She" has a horizontal hoohah."
how that for a mnemonic?
>what two nuclear bombs does to a mother fucker
We were taught cursive in grades 1-6. I was pretty good at making it legible & pretty, and I also liked drawing and doodling in notebooks so that little spark of artistry probably helped, but I was never a particularly fast writer and cursive was a bit of a pain in the ass anyway, but everyone had to do it for school. Then we got to 7th grade and cursive wasn't required anymore so pretty much everyone ditched it. I wasn't initially happy with my non-cursive handwriting, so in 7th grade I actually expended conscious effort to learn a new handwriting style that was aesthetically pleasing for myself.
I don't really know jack shit about Japanese, I had a couple courses of it in gymnasium but barely got anywhere besides learning very basic sentence structures and writing in kana. Our teacher for those courses made sure to point out that our attempts to learn kana/kanji handwriting were still a lot more legible than some native Japanese people, naturally they have exactly the same kind of spectrum of people with varying skill levels in handwriting.
why do troon love weebshit so much
Why do troons love
>air
>trees
>animals
>exercise
>technology
>camping
>food
>video games
>sex
>card games
so much?
I'm going to be reading Yotsuba in Japanese since I'm learning kanji and know all the Hiragana and Katakana. What's the best translator/dictionary for me to put in words/kanji I don't know yet.
use yomichan/yomitan with jmdict like everyone else, or jisho or whatever.
I'd suggest moving on to JP to JP dictionaries at the first opportunity though
I don't know enough Japanese words yet, but I will eventually move there once I feel like I know most common words. Thanks anon
Yeah, once you feel comfortable enough with the language JP-JP dictionaries are much better since they actually explain the nuance and uses in different contexts: sites like goo辞書, Weblio and コトバンク. JP-other language dictionaries have the issue of them mostly just having one word translations which are often inadquate, especially if the target language's translated word has different nuances and uses. Of course this applies to all language learning, not just Japanese.
use this graded book collection if you are just starting (but it's very beginner level).
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=FC9DE70EE2B6C0F2379C668042D26697
Here is a yotsuba english to japanese, since it's very local dialect-y, so you can't really understand the japanese means without knowing what the whole phrase translates to.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210108120605/https://bilingualmanga.com/manga/yotsubato/chapter-1/5-1
Personally I suggest you to just pay for bunpro, I don't use it because I use renshuu, but it has the most important feature which is hiding furigani for kanji's that you explicity say you know.
I like renshuu for the kanji dictionary, but it has so many flaws that I can't recommend it (but it's free), you really just need to micromanage how you learn, but I think bunpro should do a better job of just being a source you can just trust (I don't think it has a kanji dictionary, maybe it does, but yomichan and jissho should be good enough).
Jisho
I wish it was easier to find japanese subtitles for foreign stuff or older anime
kitsunekko has a lot but not everything
really I blame the japs also being just as bad as the americans in being monolingual dubfags
Netflix with a VPN, animelon. Aside from that, you're fucked.
rate my handwriting
>i not connecting to g
>r is wrong
Shojiki, 4/10
You did the T wrong, it's hard to tell you're writing "nugget". And the dot over the u is just confusing.
>lower n
>i not connected to g
>r not properly done
2/10 see me after class
Give me your cheatsheets.
>OW ME LOAD GUVNA, I WONTT TO SOOK THIS NIGGA DRY, I DO
Imagine being that big soft. That's gotta be a pain in the ass.
To any janny monitoring this thread: nagger