>game uses imperial instead of metric

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Look for the last time, a 1 to 10 rating system IS a metric system, and its not my fault that a 10/10 wiener is exactly ten inches. If your 4/10 ass has a broblem with it then go write your own system 0 to 25, im sure it will be really popular

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >game uses metric instead of imperial

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the duality of bones

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I appreciate the reversed filename

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A deceptive amount of effort was applied here.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Game converted from one standard to another for a regional release
      >Just changed every feet in the book to meters or vice versa

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >they made the "conversions" using software without proofreading
        >humans are now 5.8m tall

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Scifi games use metric, historical games and games set in moronic countries use shit like firkins and pecks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >A furlong is a measure of distance in imperial units and United States customary units equal to one eighth of a mile, equivalent to 660 feet, 220 yards, 40 rods, 10 chains or approximately 201 metres.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        For me it's using sportsball courts for reference.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's exactly the kind of thing that leads to human centric measurements. If football was standardized and popular all over the place 500 years ago we probably would have ballfields as a standard unit of measure. And the unit of measure would be three and a half feet short of the actual standard field size because autistic scientists decided to correct inaccuracies in the very first scientific measurement, but not adjust anything else to fit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >using soulless imperial system instead of SOVLFVL units like 𒁕𒈾, योजन, or poronkusema

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >poronkusema
        Truly the best measurement. Too bad burgers won't be able to comprehend it because they think it's based on a fictional animal.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What about Poods and Funt?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Finns are gross

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imperial is the ideal measuring system for medieval europe based settings.
    >Traditionally, in the Middle Ages, an acre was conceived of as the area of land that could be ploughed by one man using a team of 8 oxen in one day.
    >it is one Chain by One Furlong
    >A furlong is the length that one team of 8 oxen can plow without resting
    >a chain is 1/10th a furlong

    >a meter is the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second.
    Which of these would you rather have to use if you and everyone you know is likely a subsistence farmer? One is based in the real world in a way to make the math you have to do in real life easy and the other is pure nonsense that's only effective if you own an entire 20th century university. If you're in a science fiction setting go metric. Otherwise Imperial is the only thing that makes sense and you would only think otherwise if you're sheltered from the world around you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I will make sure to reflect this in my upcoming plowing-centered homebrew.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, I'm really looking forward to this. Do you have any parts you can share now?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last time that your adventures plowed through land using exactly 8 oxen for exactly 1 day.
      Now when was the last time your adventures saw light or used light-based spells?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        When was the last time your adventurers had the ability to measure the distance light travels in amounts of time so infinitesimally short that the neurons sending information from the eyes to the brain don't have enough time to fire?
        If anything, a Light spell always producing the same amount of light would lead to a unit of measurement based on that. The Light spell can brighten a space that's exactly this wide, so we measure that end to end distance as a single lightmeter. Maybe the entire area that's lit is used as a measurement of volume. Every wizard can replicate this exact amount of light, so this becomes a clean reference for arbitrary measurements.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This will be kept ate the forefront of future iterations of plowing your mom.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last time your adventurers had the ability to measure the distance light travels in amounts of time so infinitesimally short that the neurons sending information from the eyes to the brain don't have enough time to fire?
      If anything, a Light spell always producing the same amount of light would lead to a unit of measurement based on that. The Light spell can brighten a space that's exactly this wide, so we measure that end to end distance as a single lightmeter. Maybe the entire area that's lit is used as a measurement of volume. Every wizard can replicate this exact amount of light, so this becomes a clean reference for arbitrary measurements.

      That hammering on the definition of a meter is missing the full story. The original definition was the distance between the equator and the poles divided by 10 million, to create a system centered around the natural world rather than man. However over time that definition proved to be inaccurate for certain scientific measurements so this new definition, which is pretty much the same distance but more precisely defined, was introduced.

      That's what happens when you want an accurate system. Ironically the Imperial system is currently also defined in accurate meters rather than bullshit like
      >the width of your thumb
      >the length of your foot
      >a quarter of a glass of beer
      >the distance between your nose and thumb
      If you really want the authentic medieval experience, that's what you go for.
      >Yeah, the next village is 6000 steps away. But then again, Johnny the merchant is a manlet...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >The original definition was the distance between the equator and the poles divided by 10 million
        Now this is the schooling I remember, this fraction of a light-second shit is news to me, metric is based on measurements of the planet, so my thinking up until now was that every planet could have it's own metric system making it just as useless as imperial once earth ceases to be our only home.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Metric is already subsumed into Imperial, just like all the other systems that made any amount of sense.
    The reason feet don't go cleanly into miles is because feet and miles come from two different systems and both of those systems were adopted into Imperial. Same with metric. We have meters, we just don't use them most of the time.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >metric uses imperial instead of game

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is something only the americans keep enforcing on the world out of pure buttholery.
    But as semi-related to /tg/ knowing imperial would be useful for isekai, as everything is backwards in fantasy.
    Otherwise, frick you.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >medieval fantasy
    >using modern scientific measurements
    >not obscure niche measurements based around farming
    In the imperial vs metric fights people forget that in the past you'd have specific types of measurements based on specific crops in specific seasons in specific regions that used specific types of baskets for harvesting them.

    The difference between imperial and metric in their design is that imperial is meant to be easier for figuring out in your head for individual tasks that don't convert easily between each other, but metric is about being easier to figure out on paper and convert easier between different things.

    A mile is for walking, yards don't translate to walking distances, yards and feet are for how far apart you plant your potatoes or how long the beams for your house are.

    Your medieval fantasy PCs should use a mix of things, but they're not using any standard thing outside of wizard school. Have your wizard using arcane measurements like Celsius and meters, but your barbarian counts on his fingers and measures with his hands.

    Anything else is for your players, and relative to what people at your table use.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It's medieval, so you should use this archaic system instead

    Those that mean I should also call an earthquake on Mars a marsquake if the game takes place in Mars? Seriously, that got be one of the stupidest excuse to use that garbage system.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Those that mean I should also call an earthquake on Mars a marsquake if the game takes place in Mars?
      high level idiocy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Those that mean I should also call an earthquake on Mars a marsquake if the game takes place in Mars?
      That's just objectively what they're called.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >game doesn't realize that there's a difference between US customary and UK imperial
    >game doesn't have slightly different units in different portions of the same country
    >game doesn't have completely different units in different countries

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Implying metric is a consistent measuring system
    28mm scale miniatures are supposed to measure precisely 28mm at eye level, they can be shorter if the dude is squatting or whatnot. I have been measuring miniatures and some product lines can be up to 38mm at eye level. You can't fricking tell me metric is so good when measuring sticks have a fricking error margin of 35%. FRICK YOU OP. I bet this wouldn't happen if scales were measured in imperial.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you mentally challenged?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Metric was chosen as the scientific system because parts purchased from different countriess would measure different despite being sold as the same measurement. Turns out that miniatures are the same in metric. Ergo, metric ain't doing shit for them.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It's 5 feet, bro, just imagine five feet on top of each other.
    >it's 2,5 meters, mate, like, you know.. 1 meter... but you add half... you know

    Imperial was actually made with human interactions at mind unlike metric.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How big are the feet though?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The foot of any 6 foot tall man is going to be pretty much the same, golden ratios and all

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So we're all 6 feet tall if we measure by our own feet?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're hopelessly stupid.
            men can compare their heights by standing next to one another, ANY community can decide on a common foot by choosing an arbitrary member of the community, or by using the average grown mans foot, similar to how cubits and such were based on the king, noone is moronic enough to think you measure with your OWN ACTUAL foot, dipshit.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              > ANY community can decide on a common foot by choosing an arbitrary member of the community
              And that’s why you should buy bread in giantshirekeep instead of midgetham. They have bigger feet there, and by law the bagels must be one feet long and cost two silver eights.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're still failing to wrap your pea-brain around the concept
                if a foot in buttfrickville you come from is 28 inches on our ruler than noone is selling footlong sandwhiches, they sell 6"s and charge you as much as a footlong in the village next over where the lack of inbreeding makes the largest foot a proper 12 inches.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So what you're trying to say is that we should measure sandwiches using inbred villagers' feet because it would be a lot cheaper to buy them than if we used an objective unit of measurement like centimeters?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You can read and re-read until you come of an age where your brain is sufficiently developed to process what you've just been fricking told, you dysgenic rotten crotch fruit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Taking statements at face value is a sign of autism anon.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what I asked gay boy. I asked if everyone is six of their own feet tall.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Man, this shit is as moronic as
      >0 degrees Fahrenheit is really cold and 100 degrees Fahrenheit is really hot, 0 degrees Celsius is really cold and 100 degrees Celsius means you're dead
      >5 feet is short and 6 feet is tall
      Black person, do you think I scratch my head in confusion if someone asks me if 35 degrees Celsius is hot or cold? Do you think I need measuring tape to check if 140cm is tall or short? Do you think that after decades of using metric I can't eyeball distance without thinking about someone's feet all day? Hell even if you want to shoehorn in your fetish there's
      >It's a meter bro, just imagine three feet
      >no thanks, I'm not moronic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >How much land can you plow in a day?
        >Uhh, 4046.8564224 Square Meters
        >but do you want me to calculate the exact composition of a cube of metal of a certain volume??
        Using some moronic ass robot measuring system to pwn the Americans doesn't make you cool its just sad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You are moronic.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >game distances are only close, near and far

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I play such a system.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just use dozenal, baka

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My fave game started using shapes instead.
    It's not my fave game anymore.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      RIP Killteam.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I love no one talking about how imperial makes sense for war games since the difference between inches is much more significant than the differences between cm or mm, letting the designers have less to worry about in terms of balance due to distances.
    Metric for base and model size, imperial for in game measurements

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's also just easier and faster to measure in inches
      I think inches and pounds feel so *intuitive * that most people could probably do it by sight or feel
      as a leaf, these are the two imperial measurements I use most often. cups get an honourable mention, but they aren't as intuitive.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Now I am engineer by trade so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I find it easier and more intuitive to myself to say how long something is using metric.
        That said, I still think imperial is good for TTGs mostly because metric is all about precision while imperial is good for generalized.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >thing I grew up with feels intuitive
        No shit. Also your citizenship should be revoked for that garbage.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >cups get an honourable mention
        Frick cups, it's one thing to have a casually used measurement that's imperial, it's quite another thing to name it as a entirely variable piece of common household crockery.

        Also while inche are pretty big, measurement-wise, and thus is fairly easy to eyeball (my job is engineering measurement, there's a ton of legacy shit that means I deal with inches), pounds are fricking random and arbitrary as any other measurement

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Cups are a self referencing measure from before we had standardization. This is cause most recipes scale infinitely, so long as you maintain the ratio. It doesn't matter what size of cup you use so long as it's two cups of flower to one cup milk and sugar for example.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I prefer the term Parts over Cups, myself.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Parts is a good one too, but then we get into the awkwardness of fixed size ingredients like eggs, or table and tea spoons. While cups aren't standardized they're at least within a bandwidth of max and min that's workable for a post Victorian mother of 4

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >fixed
              >eggs
              Lol, not even within a single subspecies in a single coop on a single diet.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >warhammer derivatives use imperial
    >BFG uses metric
    Nani the frick?

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Game uses contemporary system of measures and weights instead of several in-universe exclusive system of measures and weights based on pre-history cultural cornerstones. like Royal's appendages or nearby convenient stones.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Unimportant non-issue. Homebrew it if you care so fricking much about such an arbitrary thing.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it's a common trope to use imperial as marker of less advanced countries.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cope b***h, the flag on the moon is 4 FEET wide.
      Imperial went beyond the sky before metric.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        NASA used metric to go to the Moon, but nice try, and thank you for the bait

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm saying they didn't go there without imperial measurements too, you're claim it was a metric mission is absurd.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Imperial went beyond the sky before metric
        Even ignoring that NASA uses metric to this day, did you forget the soviets got to space first? What system do you think they used?

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone support Metric for a reason besides their inability to use fractions?
    Upthread Anon is b***hing about farmers but Metric square heads are using knockoff Imperial every time they cook or do carpentry.
    >b-b-but there’s a reasonable explanation for why 51mm is a standard size
    Yes because it’s bloody 2 inches wide you nonce.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I grew up under metric, and the idea of multiplying and dividing by 10 is much more intuitive to me than whatever the conversion between feet, inches and miles is.

      Small stuff? cm and mm. Larger stuff? m. Even larger stuff? Km. Not that complicated to grasp.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        On paper that works great, the math is tidy.

        But say you've got no phone, no calculator, no ruler, etc.... how do you determine what 1 meter is? how do you teach someone how to measure that accurately? This is why imperial is as it is, an inch was something you could physically reference to in a hurry, and a foot is just a useful distance for everyday use made out of a whole number of those, etc.... you just find whichever finger joint (or whatever) is close to an inch and now you can create a ruler

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          By eyeballing it dumbass, when you grow up with a system of measurement you are able to view things in that system

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >when you grow up with
            Right... but this requires it to FIRST be measured accurately.
            I have just told you to remove yourself from that system and begin it again with no modern tools.
            I can do that with my imperial, you cannot with your metric without building upon my imperial (using an inch to make a foot, and three feet to make a yard and that roughing that to a meter)

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >remove yourself from that system and begin it again
              but why

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                your spaceship crashed and none of the debris is workable or is intact for you to use a straight-edge or measuring stick, you're separated from earth by light years, thankfully the terraforming process was done by remote decades ahead of time, so you've at least got an environment you can live in.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >in this extremely specific absurd imaginary scenario that favours my preferred system it wins over yours
                what a surprise
                how about this: you're a quadruple amputee and you need to measure stuff, where are your feet and inches now, smartass

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you're a quadruple amputee you don't need to measure anything.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                if my spaceship crashed, spontaneously deciding to start moving around and measuring everything i see would be the last thing on my mind too

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Accurately measuring shit you're building is going to be on your mind in the foreseeable future of such a scenario.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Dude this i /tg/ that's a perfectly reasonable scenario for a sci-fi game that would justifiably be metric, to now need an improvised imperial system.
                Do you not role play or are you a tourist?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why not just approximate a meter using their own hight as reference? So long as it divides by 10 he has another standard to work around

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Who the hell measures their height in metres?
                >t. canuck

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Canucks
                t.184cm Canuck

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Your local carpenter built your house in imperial.
                Doors being either 30" 34" or 36" wide, your standard ceiling is 8' tall and every single drywall panel was 4'x8'.
                >t. canuck carpenter
                Keep deluding yourself but the only thing metric about canada is the delusions trudeau's father forced on an unwilling population, roadsigns and school policies are something he could control so that's why you see that, Canada is naturally imperial.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Well yeah, I also install the pipes in your house using imperial 1/4 inch, 1/2 inch, 1 inch, 2 inch or 3 inch wide pipes. We use both in this country.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No, we do the things that matter in imperial in every single use-case that the government left people free to choose their system.
                The only adoption was in instances where government regulation forced the change.
                We are imperial, our government is globohomo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with your distate about the government but by in large our food is measured in metric, weights for products are listed in both metric and imperial. like a lot of shit in the public sector at least uses both.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Right, through government regulation for labels.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Labels yeah, but people still measure their food in kilos or pounds or whatnot. Unlabeled foods and fruits and veggies. Plus one of the main reasons the industrial sector and whatnot uses imperial at times is cause America exports a shitton of mechanical goods to us. More than all other industries I believe.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but it wasn't chosen by the people, it's a result of these regulation decisions, I know when I was growing up scales and speedometers were all dual imperial/metric, but I do believe now both are just metric as a standard, but not because customers kept walking in and complaining that there was imperial on their dials (who doesn't like a multipurpose tool?) it's background government shit, like how hindi was made an official language in canada some years back and noone fricking put it in the papers or asked my vote on the matter.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ke how hindi was made an official language in canada some years back and noone fricking put it in the papers or asked my vote on the matter.
                Please provide any documentation of this happening. The official languages aren't exactly a small thing to change and it's not something you can do clandestinely. Maybe they're making government documents available in Hindi (which is eminently sensible in many areas, along with many other languages).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Well now I look like an ass, I can't find it again.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anywhere else in the world beside US?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yes anon, the measurement system with a backbone in unflinching scientific bureaucracy would be useless to a cave man, brilliant observation. However that is irrelevant, let me as you a question, how do you arrive at an inch? Because the modern inch does have a set value, same with the foot or mile, it's is exactly the same as the metric system, powered not by intuition or some human centric natural law you stroke your one inch measurement stick to at night, it is equally powered by simple unflinchingly bureaucratic institution. Do you know what things were like before metric? People used inches and feet, and every country had slightly different sizes for what those inches and feet were, it was chaos. There is no holistic "human centric" measurement that applies to all of us equally, there is no greater logic for this in "oh a foot is 5 sheplins, and 12 sheplins make a bogard, and there's 3 bogards in a millit" because no matter what abstractions you try to draw from a reference point, if the reference isn't standardized it's meaningless. so sure, 200 years ago an unwashed German peasant wouldn't be able to say how much a meter was, but they wouldn't be able to tell you what your yard was either.

              But if you must know an abstract equally meaningless way to reach a metter it's about the size of 2 steps for the average man. Go frick yourself

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >about the size of two steps for the average man
                That's a frickton less accurate than going by average male knuckle bones, lmao.
                And you seem to be confusing the germans for the french there.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >No rebuttal to anything else
                Pack it in boys the burger is moronic

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                moronic is agreeing with what I say and then pretending I'm arguing about something else entirely to trick yourself into thinking you're a winner.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >how do you determine what 1 meter is?
          My grandfather taught me a trick for that, a meter is roughly the distance between one shoulder and the opposite extended hand. It’s more useful using ropes though, but for everyday stuff I just eyeball it.
          Still makes conversion between meters and cm easier, because unlike feets and inches, a cm is still one hundredth of a meter no matter the trick I may use to estimate said meter.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >1/100th
            How do you accurately divide that unit into 100 even bits to determine your arbitrary centimeter?
            My arbitrary foot is twelve knucklebones, I can easily carve a bit of wood into one of those and use that to notch a stick twelve or 36 times.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I generally don’t eyeball cm, but sure, my index fingernail is one cm wide. Happy?

              The problem with imperial has never been the arbitrariness of the initial unity, a meter is not any less arbitrary than a foot or a yard. The problem with imperial is that a foot, an inch and a yard are incompatible with each other, that’s what makes it a headache to use! You don’t need pen and paper to know how many meters are there in 3.78 km, but try to know how many inches in 7.4 feet and the math is already not that obvious.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Right, which means metric is for scientific purposes, but imperial is for everyday use.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You keep saying that, but the rest of the planet does not have issues using metric for every day purposes. You instead keep crashing stuff in space trying to use metric for scientific purposes.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Inches are exactly the right size for 20-30mm tabletop wargames.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. I'm not american but I actually use inches and feet for tabletop gaming (and for nothing else)

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Metrick is a mistake because base 10 was a mistake. Simple as.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >having 10 digits was a mistake

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I measure as much as I can in leagues.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As stated before:
    Metric for accuracy, Imperial (at a table top scale) for guesstimation.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I feel the Ilm, Fulm, Yalm, and Malm are underappreciated takes on fantasy measurement. Allows you to generalize distances with a known similar measurement (imperial) while not actually using said measurement. With the really only important measurement being the Yalm as one stride by a person of average height.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >of metric game imperial uses instead

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have always used my feet, thumbs and armslegnth when estimating shit. Has always worked. Was actually taught to do this in school.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I can see both sides of the metric vs. Imperial argument (though I ultimately prefer the latter), but there is one thing that always annoys me: the existence of the hectare. What the frick even is a hectare? Why does it need to exist?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The same reason that litres exist and you don't go immediately to cubic metres (or square kilometres): those're fricking huge.

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