Venat might be. She was alive for potentially thousands of years before the sundering, who knows if she had a kid or two.
Also she's spiritually the mother of existence, so she probably gets a pass.
I feel like if Venat had a kid or two we would have learned of it by now, seeing as they're so determined to close up every ancient-related plot before we head off into DT. Remember when people theorized Elidibus was Venat's son?
Venat is not a mother because she had been waiting 12,000 years for (You) to make her one... >I feel like if Venat had a kid or two we would have learned of it by now
I unironically believe Themis was at one point intended to be her child. Maybe to add to the tragedy where Venat bcame Hydaelyn and her own son became the symbol of everything she stood against.
But they nixed that.
I feel like if Venat had a kid or two we would have learned of it by now, seeing as they're so determined to close up every ancient-related plot before we head off into DT. Remember when people theorized Elidibus was Venat's son?
Maybe they nixed the Themis = Venat's son thing especially so that people can waifu her without feeling cucked. Just as Y'shtola and a bunch of other female characters have no canonical partner or lover for the same reason.
I thought "Hag" referred to basically any female over 18? Or do you mean to say cake?
Because the writers are based (for putting hags in the game) and simultaneously cringe (for killing them off, sans Y'shtola)
Some of the writers and character designers are based but then they get overwritten by fujodev to ensure they don't stick around, as women with tits naturally offend them. I'm convinced Y'shtola has only survived because YoshiP won't allow her death.
>I'm convinced Y'shtola has only survived because YoshiP won't allow her death.
Yes. She's a fairly inoffensive surface level waifu used to sell merch.
She'd have died if not for that.
>anon is mad because fujoshits keep killing off the cool women characters and keep the twinky men lapping your character's boots around >"YOU JUST HATE FUJOS CUZ U HATE WOMEN"
Are you touched in the head?
It's a triggered fujo having a melty, just ignore her (or him, in the likely case it's just a homosexual fiend).
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's a triggered fujo having a melty, just ignore her (or him, in the likely case it's just a homosexual fiend).
You spend every thread 24 hours a day crying about nonexistent fujo shit because you are a sub an 70 IQ porn addict who is deeply autistic.
1 month ago
Anonymous
you are not going to stop people from hating the fujoshit writers who kill off every woman that isn't y'shtola or alisaie while keeping homosexuals like g'raha around to plague us with their rampant fanboyism
1 month ago
Anonymous
Then remove all the fanservice for male characters too. Inb4 "there is no fanservice".
>YOU DON'T GET IT UNLESS THEY'RE ALL WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR TITS OUT AND SUCKING THE WOLS DICK THE GAME IS FUJO >VOUCH FOR MY PORN ADDICTION!!!!
1 month ago
Anonymous
melt, fujoshit
g'raha will never be real and if god is real he'll be dead in dawntrail
1 month ago
Anonymous
don't care about homosexual pandering you nasty tranny
>another strawman
And the fujo tranny is broken, see you next thread, little buddy.
trannies are porn addicts that hate women(You) and are inherently opposed to pandering to women
pandering that isn't there because you are a mentally ill porn addict tranny with a warped view of social interraction
1 month ago
Anonymous
>another strawman
And the fujo tranny is broken, see you next thread, little buddy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Then remove all the fanservice for male characters too. Inb4 "there is no fanservice".
>but then they get overwritten by fujodev to ensure they don't stick around
Most of the female characters were killed off in ARR and we didn't start getting a steady stream of female characters until she became leader writer, so what the fuck are you talking about?
She didn't really take charge till ShB. It's ashamed because the Scions are something of a sausage party at this point, but instead of adding a new female to the main cast to balance things out they are seemingly adding that fucking rabbit boy because women like him.
>but instead of adding a new female to the main cast to balance things out they are seemingly adding that fucking rabbit boy because women like him.
They're probably adding that new femhroth though.
Well, either that or she'll have the same level of relevance as Yugiri, since she's getting basically the exact same introduction, getting off a boat looking for help and all that.
Being similar to Yugiri isn't the worst thing since Yugiri at least isn't dead and is probably the closest thing we have to a potential waifu that isn't a scion.
>female Hrothgar in 7.0 >Krile
Okay, first one is speculation, but let's not go overboard with the sausage party here.
>Okay, first one is speculation
well, they showed her legs. But chances are that both Erenville and the Hrothgar woman are only gonna be with us for the expansion. They don't want to add new Scions because that shit is crowded already but they don't want to leave any behind. At most, they'll leave Tataru in Old Sharlayan since she now has her business and whatnot
1 month ago
Anonymous
I hope Erenville fucks off right after the introduction of the new expansion. He has literally no personality whatsoever, it was already bizarre to me how much attention he got during EW.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>fujo game >fujobait gets attention and screentime while females get removed
wow
1 month ago
Anonymous
>He has literally no personality whatsoever,
doesn't stop zepla and all the other middle aged women from squealing about him
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is potentially the case but we'll have to see. A big part of this depends on what FemHroths will look like. If they are just like the males but slimmer then they'll only appeal to a niche audience anyway. I think what most of the waifufags who are complaining want is a conventionally attractive woman who isn't androgynous.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>If they are just like the males but slimmer
i fucking wish but devs are not based enough for that
1 month ago
Anonymous
>They showed her legs
and at fanfest they showed us her cute tits.
Yshtola is a 60 iq normalfag choice.
The male hyur dark knight in your dungeon roulette pulling 1 mob at a time and not using any cooldowns is the average shitola enjoyer
Complaining that a waifu is "normalfag choice" is just sour grapes over people wanting an actually attractive woman who's a good partner instead of joining you in wanting an underage futa potato who's into scat and guro because you're a "thinking man". Also I pull way more than 1 mob at a time.
>Has race-mixing really been addressed in XIV?
"True" race-mixing is hard to do because most of the time the offspring just comes out the mother's race, but sometimes you do get half-breeds.
Yes it has. Basically any race mixed child will be the mother's race with a few characteristics of the father's race added on, the two half breeds we've seen are Hilda (Hyur with slightly pointed ears) and an old Au Ra princess (Hyur father and was born with far less prominent scales than normal)
Hyur can apparently sort of reproduce with almost anything.
I'd imagine Ancients aren't much different. I'd be shocked if Ancients can't procreate with the sundered, but it does make me wonder about what the offspring would be like.
its been addressed both in game and in lore panels. someone actually asked if femlalas could comfortably accomodate males of other races, and it was confirmed.
which means two things:
A: femlalas are stretchy
B: male lalas are packing
and because of B, we get the following gem:
C: Male au ra are dicklets
it can happen, but apparently is rare. And it is explained that the child is the mother's race with some features from the father. Hilda is the only example in-game. And I think that while doing quests in the Ruby Sea there's a quest where an Au Ra says a Auri princess had a child with a hyuran man and that the baby almost had no scales
Let me stop you right there and tell you if in a hypotetical isekai scenario a normal human would not be able to conceive with any of XIV's races because they are not aether beings. And when you die you're back to our purgatory waiting line, no lifestream for you either bucko.
Let me stop you right there and tell you in a hypothetical scenario me being a normal human would not stop me putting my dick in every hole aether being or not and you wouldn't be able to stop me.
I mean, they wouldn't be adding the "(according to herself)" if there wasn't a reason to. Emet, Lahabrea and Elidibus don't need that clarification at all.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You're right. I'm just amused that Venat doesn't even try to go "I'm as young as Emet-Selch, I'm as young as [insert younger to middle-aged Amaurotine]."
No, she goes for the "I am at least younger than the senior citizen."
That's both funny and hot to me.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ok but she clearly looks younger than him so either she's telling the truth or she is able to control her physical appearance or something.
1 month ago
Anonymous
She just aged more gracefully.
(They should've added tear troughs to her model.)
1 month ago
Anonymous
>or she is able to control her physical appearance or something.
I'm pretty sure that's an ability all ancients have? Emet-Selch somehow managed to fool all of Garlemald into thinking he had a normal lifespan as Solus. Venat also looks to be in the 30-40 range (or 40-50 with really fucking good skincare) and yet she's old enough that she has people asking her if she's gonna be killing herself any day soon. I don't think physical appearance means much in ancient society unless you are an actual kid.
You also do meet her 12k years later and she looks smooth af, though that could potentially just be a matter of the primal form.
Elidibus is such a shit character. The only time I ever thought he was interesting was when I mistakenly thought he was a kid with superhero like ideals the convocation put into Zodiark.
>PoV_youre_a_Duskwight
...ok? I can very clearly see we're on the First though. There's no elezen on elezen racism here.
Just elezen against everyone else.
>Not the biggest pair of tits but she's also offs herself along with all the other gods save the homosexual of course
Do you have problems comprehending basic english?
>Who the fuck has bigger in this game?
NTA but Siren. The one in Pharos and the one in the BRD quests (same model).
Do you think they can pull a bigger threat than Endsinger?
Sure. Endsinger was literally just one single scientist fucking around in his spare time and accidentally tapping into a near limitless energy source in the worst way. Do you know how easy that kind of plot is to implement into any setting? They can just pull similar, like a villain who finds some sort of power loop. Plus what
I stopped trying to care about powerscaling ages ago.
Even if something is stronger than another thing, it's still possible for the weaker villain to hold the world hostage. And we've been fighting technically weaker enemies since Endsinger died. Do you think Golbez or Zeromus could take on Endsinger? Do you think they could even take on Zodiark?
a villain doesn't necessarily have to be stronger than the previous one, it just takes them knowing where to strike.
I doubt they'll bring up dynamis again, to be honest. It's kind of a can of worms.
If I'm wrong, though, I guess they can always go back to dynamis fuckery to create a threat. But it might all end up feeling a bit like Endsinger 2.0.
Ending to that raid pissed me off so much. Square-Enix just can't leave deities alone, can they? Not even the genuinely benevolent ones. Yeah, they were still essentially Eikons/Primals/sundered Ancients, but for fuck's sake, take off the damn fedora for one fucking second, you soulless Japs.
I stopped trying to care about powerscaling ages ago.
Even if something is stronger than another thing, it's still possible for the weaker villain to hold the world hostage. And we've been fighting technically weaker enemies since Endsinger died. Do you think Golbez or Zeromus could take on Endsinger? Do you think they could even take on Zodiark?
just finished IX so I hope they make an expansion where another reflection is dying/running out of resources and a former ascian now wants to save that reflection inhabitants by "rejoining" with the Source
I have stuff to do, still.
I'm sorry you don't have a braindead bozja to grind, but I've never been into that shit, so EW is the same as previous expansions. Arguably more content-rich because it has more that isn't tied up in some foray I avoid like the plague.
PotD solo. got to 194 as RPR but died because I was being very stupid. I had 3 Rage, 3 Reso and 3 Salv ready too. After that I'll probably try EO solo as BLM or try to find a group for Crit Savages
Logging in once a week to collect from my robo-slaves and schedule new tasks.
I really hope Dawntrail adds something fun to this game cause all the current content is fucking trash.
>try to level all jobs to 90 >some of them have been stuck at 50 since forever >get to the very last ones, PLD, BRD and MNK
I can't do this, fuck the Amaro mount.
Yeah, they're the ones "freaking out", not this guy
[...] >YOU DON'T GET IT UNLESS THEY'RE ALL WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR TITS OUT AND SUCKING THE WOLS DICK THE GAME IS FUJO >VOUCH FOR MY PORN ADDICTION!!!!
If fujo pandering wasn't real, G'raha wouldn't be alive right now. >"t-trannies are the ones against fujo pandering"
Nice projection from the fujowart.
I'm not part of that shitflinging contest but Erenville is genuinely a non-character at this point. If he sticks around in Dawntrail they better give him something more to do than just spout exposition or go "I know a guy".
>G'raha and Alisae are the only Scions whose attire is colored in mostly red >Scenes at the end of Part 1 Endwalker at WoL's inn room were the only two that hinted at something more than platonic (fuck off Y'shtola fags, that shit was formal as fuck, and you know it) >G'raha and Alisae were the closest to the WoL when he was teleported back to the ship, and were the only two to actually shed tears (again, fuck off Y'shtola fags, that line about her heart breaking was mere teasing at best) >If one knows even a modicum about Japanese culture, the significance of the color red hints at a fuck ton
Screencap this. 7.0 is going to be huge for the shippers
You're right but problem is that Alisaie isn't being pushed to appeal to waifufags, she's being pushed to throw them a token since she's totally inoffensive and has the 'strong womyn' sort of personality.
Yes, please look forward to the WoL harem DLC pack which for the low low price of 14.99 a month allows you filthy fucking degenerates to create your own romantic quest with your favorite FF14 NPCs. Ability to romance non-living NPCs will be in a separate pack soon to be discussed at FanFest 2025
Why do G'rahafags and Alisaiefags just seethe 24/7 about Y'shtola? I don't get it. You guys get catered to constantly, but the fucking instant Y'shtola says something romantic you just throw a bitchfit.
You even just made it painfully obvious you know perfectly well Y'shtola talking about her heart several times is more romantic, or else you wouldn't have bothered mentioning her at all, you would just have talked about G'raha and Alisaie.
She's basically the last potential obstacle. The women all going for G'raha likely feel insecure around a conventionally attractive woman and Alisaiefags are basically either closeted or your standard muh DFC "anyone over 18 is a dirty hag!" type.
>The CANON love interests (WHICH IS NOT Y'SHTOLA) are gonna be in the story. >And because the story is gonna include the love interests (WHICH ARE NOT Y'SHTOLA) we will see a lot of cutscenes (WHICH WILL NOT INVOLVE Y'SHTOLA) and they will be really shippy (BUT NOT Y'SHTOLA, SHUT UP Y'SHTOLAFAGS THAT SCENE WAS NOT ROMANTIC, NO I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS ROMANTIC AND I JUST TO SAY IT DOESN'T COUNT BEFORE YOU OBVIOUSLY PROVE ME WRONG)
You misunderstood my post. I don't hate Y'shtola. If she was being pushed as a potential waifu I would be all for it. If there was a Tomb Raider 1-esque "super-secret-but-doesn't-really-exist-gotcha-you-gullible-motherfuckers" movement cheat to get a nude scene with the blind cat girl I would do it in a heartbeat. It's not the character I have a problem with. It's the deluded fanbase. I understand subtext. I understand dialogue. I can read between the lines. I know what's being said in a scene and what's being left unsaid. This isn't my first rodeo. I didn't use that Tomb Raider example as randomly either. Lara Croft, as per the original developer's own words, was a female protagonist designed to be in this sort of...lofty position--sexuallly, that is. The kind of woman you couldn't really see settling down with anyone, perhaps not even for a one-night stand.
A sort of mythological female warrior deity whose mind is so singularly focused on battle there is no time for anything else. Yes, there is sexual appeal. Sexual draw. And the character knows it. But she just isn't wired that way. And unlike Alisae and G'raha, I know the hints inclinations are simply not there for Y'shtola. I don't see them, despite me wishing otherwise.
tl;dr: I see reality for the way it is, not for the way I want it to be. Y'shtola is not being pushed upon the WoL.
You can dislike a character without writing a homosexual manifesto. I think Y'shtola is fine as a pretty character to look at or to sometimes spout exposition, but I wouldn't call her an actually good character or that she has great chemistry with anyone (except with Matoya, which she needs more scenes of imo).
1 month ago
Anonymous
She has some fun interactions when you are allowed to directly interact with her. Main issue is she hasn't ever been allowed much focus, which can also go for some others like Urianger. The main problem of course has been the twins who need to constantly be the center of attention.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>which can also go for some others like Urianger
I vehemently disagree. Urianger has been the most consistent of the scions, with only a little lull during Stormblood. Not only is he often heavily involved in the actual plot, but he also faces real ideological challenges and keeps having great moments in almost every expansion. He also has one of the best reasons to stick around still. >The main problem of course has been the twins who need to constantly be the center of attention.
Alphinaud hasn't been the center of attention since Stormblood. I don't think he even did anything of true import since then.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Urianger has been the most consistent of the scions
Urianger has had some character moments but they usually come in small bursts. More than Y'shtola sure but he's not a huge and prominent presence most of the time.
>Alphinaud hasn't been the center of attention since Stormblood. I don't think he even did anything of true import since then.
ShB had his relation towards Eulmore where that whole thing was around him. And EW has he and Alisaie with their family situation and the exploration of Garlemald is mostly based around them. But it's more that he and Alisaie constantly get focus in screentime and dialogue.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>but he's not a huge and prominent presence most of the time.
He doesn't have to be. I said he is constantly present in some way, not that he's super important. In ARR he had the whole thing with Moenbryda and Elidibus, in HW he's the one to track Y'shtola down and has the deal with the WoDs and the business with Unulkalhai, in SB he has his smallest role with just giving a neat prophecy and later on discussing the fake echo with Krile, in ShB he has tons to do with Il Mheg, G'raha's "betrayal", heartfelt moments with Ryne and so on, in EW he has a great payoff moment with Moenbryda's parents and builds a bond with the Loporrits, acting as their main intermediary. Something else that's funny though, since people are talking a lot about Y'shtola, if you go back and pay attention to it you'll notice that her and Urianger actually kinda switched roles during the course of the game. Urianger was the one to give exposition regarding primals, aether, elemental concepts and so on. It's just that in addition to that he also actually had something to do.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Disagree with Urianger having "tons to do" in ShB, his whole inner conflict in ShB was precisely that Exarch asked him to not do anything at all. Just pretend nothing's happening and not spill the beans when Y'shtola starts demanding to know why WoL is turning into a bomb. Urianger's biggest act in all of ShB is just raising a hand to stop her from blowing Exarch's head off mid-ritual (and cheering up Ryne).
1 month ago
Anonymous
Keep in mind when I say something like "tons to do", I mean it in relation to other side characters.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I mean, if we're talking in comparison to every other Scion, I'd say he still came with the short end of the stick. >Thancred: Whole plot with Ryne, the biggest one. >Alphinaud: Eulmore. >Alisaie: Sin eaterism/tempering. >Y'shtola: Exploring ruins to uncover plots and fake out death-ing herself for the Night's Blessed. >Ryne: Basically deuteragonist of the expansion.
Urianger is present sure, but he's really just there for G'raha to vent on someone before he attempts to commit suicide.
Speaking of which, I never fucking understood why he pretended to be a villain right at the climactic moment. If the other Scions had better reflexes they legit might have killed him and then everyone fucking loses.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I never fucking understood why he pretended to be a villain right at the climactic moment.
"t-that way the WoL and scions won't be heartbroken about my death..."
1 month ago
Anonymous
: Eulmore. >>Y'shtola: Exploring ruins to uncover plots and fake out death-ing herself for the Night's Blessed.
You're correct on everyone else, but these two were kinda pathetic.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I was actually gonna say Y'shtola's plot was really just being the one who worries about WoL but I decided I should downsell it because anons in this thread seem slightly twitchy about anyone saying Y'shtola cares for WoL.
Also the ruins puzzles and shit were fun and uncovered the secret of Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and Elidibus' plan and workings as a primal, so it wasn't that useless.
Alphinaud was alright, it just seemed kinda less emotional because he met the Chais for like one afternoon. Reminds me of how they wanted me to think Ryne and Gaia were deeply concerned for each other even though we barely got minutes of just Gaia telling her to fuck off.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Also the ruins puzzles and shit were fun and uncovered the secret of Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and Elidibus' plan and workings as a primal, so it wasn't that useless.
Sure, but that's not really a "character moment", nor is Y'shtola the main driving force for getting there. >Alphinaud was alright, it just seemed kinda less emotional because he met the Chais for like one afternoon.
I think the worst part is how Alphinaud isn't the one to bring a conclusion to the whole Eulmore thing. He's part of the introduction but never actually connected to it. The writers tried to make some kind of allegory between him and Vautry but that didn't work at all, imo.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>but that's not really a "character moment", nor is Y'shtola the main driving force for getting there.
I agree with the first part, it's not like Y'shtola changes from it, but I do think she's the driving force.
On this note and the Alphinaud part, it's actually ironic that in EW we get >Y'shtola casts the spell that allows us to finally learn what the forum is planning. >Y'shtola delivers the big speech challenging the forum and calling them out on not helping. >Y'shtola figures out the loporrits are the forum's secret allies. >Alphinaud delivers the last speech to convince the forum because his dad works at Nintendo.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I agree with the first part, it's not like Y'shtola changes from it, but I do think she's the driving force.
I would have to go back and check it for myself, but I distinctly remember back when I played through it the first time thinking to myself "this seems really contrived".
1 month ago
Anonymous
If I remember right, it's Y'shtola who suggests the ronkan ruins might have info on Elidibus in the patches because they already proved useful before but she had no time to study them, and she is the translator of the Scions, and later she does the same with the ruins in... I can't remember what's it called, the underwater place with the fat fish boss. That place where later Elidibus kidnaps her. I don't imagine many more ways of being the driving force than being the one who both suggests it and is also the only one who can do it.
I keep seeing people insisting G'raha is thirsty for WoL and I just don't see it. He doesn't act like someone with a crush, he acts like a fanboy. He never says anything romantic or that heartfelt, the way he talks I'd rather think he wants to BE WoL, not be WITH WoL, he just thinks following us is the best way to achieve it. I wouldn't consider the Adoring Fan from Oblivion a "love interest".
Alisaie, sure, cause she gets jealous every time someone else gets close to WoL.
i think "graha desires you carnally" only makes sense from the point of view of a Ganker poster that assumes any male who doesn't talk to him about chivalry, honor, and a viking death in combat wants to fuck him tbh
I keep seeing people insisting G'raha is thirsty for WoL and I just don't see it. He doesn't act like someone with a crush, he acts like a fanboy. He never says anything romantic or that heartfelt, the way he talks I'd rather think he wants to BE WoL, not be WITH WoL, he just thinks following us is the best way to achieve it. I wouldn't consider the Adoring Fan from Oblivion a "love interest".
Alisaie, sure, cause she gets jealous every time someone else gets close to WoL.
If G'raha was a woman you'd be using 'she wants to see the world with WoL' and 'she wants the WoL to take her on an adventure' as reasons for why it is canon that G'raha wants to gobble the WoL's cock.
1 month ago
Anonymous
no i'd be calling her alisaie who is a starry eyed fangirl that's very grateful for binding coils but has an inferiority complex
1 month ago
Anonymous
Alisaie clearly has a crush on the WoL though
1 month ago
Anonymous
i think she just gets wet for heroes and isn't as reserved as her brother is about expressing it
both of them came over to eorzea in the first place because grandpa was a hero and they wanted to become heroes too
1 month ago
Anonymous
>already taking G'raha on an adventure >but G'raha isn't satisfied and wants another, with JUST the two of you
GEE I WONDER WHY PEOPLE INTERPRET THAT AS G'RAHA WANTING YOU TO SPREAD HIS CHEEKS?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't because I don't think either that Y'shtola wanting to explore the shards with WoL is a sign of romantic affection. I think it's what she says in addition to that that's a sign of romantic affection.
On that same note, Merlwyb also says she'd like to get drunk with WoL and I don't think it meant anything, because Merlwyb has never had a scene where she goes all "WoL, thous'rt dearest to mine heart".
Oh and Y'shtola definitely does have way more romantic interactions than G'raha. I just saw this
I made a thing for (You). You can frame it and post it 6 months from now as you insist it's everyone else who's mad!
get posted and it's so blatant I can only assume you're being disingenuous by saying you don't see it. G'raha has never even used a single word related to affection, and he hasn't had jelly moments like Alisaie, so he's way behind both.
He is constantly humping your leg all the time. That being said they don't make romance a real thing in this game. All you get is vague allusions that you can choose to interpret as you wish.
Since it's canon that the WoL can still travel to the past whenever he pleases, he could easily just spend all his free time in the past fucking Venat.
That's sorta true. You can kinda go that route, even if it is a bit bittersweet.
Imagine for a second this is real life, and you're in love with someone, but you can only meet them in the past. You know they're fated to die; they are dead in your present. Yet they're there, in the past, alive, smiling at you. You can't tell them what happened straight up, because it might fuck things up. Everything you do in the past has some sort of effect, sure, but mostly, it's in some sort of bubble, a vacuum.
>You can't tell them what happened straight up, because it might fuck things up.
If we're equally as retarded as the WoL we will tell them everything that happened and make things both better and worst at the same time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes.
"You're dying in the future and I'll miss you immensely." >go back to own timeline >Scoured wasteland
Really with the characterization that WoL is all about ADVENTURE and constantly seeking new challenges it feels like Venat would have been a good match for that. Compare to G'raha who seemingly only wants to come along to be with (You). I guess Y'shtola sorta fits that as well though, from more of an academic sense.
Y'shtola I think makes a good match in her being interested in the learning sense of adventuring, she's there for all the nitty-gritty autism and spending five hours looking at murals on a wall.
Treating the WoL like a bland slate for a moment, you can go any which way.
His equal: a similarly adventurous spirit with the wisdom and experience of ages, who can spin a tale about the events in her life and is equally as excited to behold new vistas as he is. Who loves being rough and tumble as much as she enjoys contemplating new hypotheses about the inner workings of things. Like Venat. Then there's also all the mentor/predecessor stuff to add into that.
His opposite: someone who is more bookish, more about the things the WoL isn't about. To accrue new knowledge and use it in practice, to broaden her scientific horizon. In that way, they can both enrich each other. Like Y'shtola.
The ambitious: someone who aspires to become the WoL's equal. Who tries unflaggingly to keep up with his pace and vows that she will never take the easy route out by resting on her laurels. Always trying to be a better version of herself. This would be Alisaie. There's an argument to be made, however, that Alisaie's bare, wide-eyed admiration makes it hard for her to be an equal partner, but that might not always be the case.
>Really with the characterization that WoL is all about ADVENTURE and constantly seeking new challenges
Based on that the person most suited for the WoL is Azem
If most people could fuck themselves they absolutely would so yeah. Really that seems like a requirement for the title of Azem.
They don't play them, they ruin them.
Tales? Ruined by women.
Fire Emblem? Ruined by women.
Final Fantasy? Ruined by women.
There hasn't been a single good jrpg since the ps2.
With Tales I'd blame it's fall more on the general direction the franchise took after Vesperia where it fell off for most of the part. Final Fantasy likewise fell off after XII, so one may blame a certain obsessed waifufag for that. Fire Emblem generally seems fine since while it has a large female fanbase it still goes well enough to pander to waifufags too. Hell one of the most popular girls in the franchise is also hated by the other half but still gets pandering because she is that popular.
Then go on. Download anamnesis, download whatever mod you need for her, download the PSD file with the dialogue boxes and fonts and proceed to make your own super authentic(tm) cutscene screencaps where (You)'re WoL hugs, or kisses, or gropes or bends Alisaie over a table.
Become ungovernable.
remember that time a shtolafag wrote a novel on why she is not a plank in terms of personality?
shtolafags are mentally ill
https://files.catbox.moe/45epr6.png
I remember how you were demanding Y'shtolafags tell you what's so good about the character and once someone actually did you spent 2 months raging about it and screaming you didn't read it but somehow knew it was fake.
>there's no way multiple people are laughing at me
Well the alternative is that more than one person is holding a grudge about internet arguments from half a year ago and I'd like to think she doesn't live in your head rent free that hard.
bruh you lose any conversation where you're just laughing at somebody the moment you're trawling archives and all of them are samey "y'shtolafags are mentally ill" posts
>if you expose me with a 5 second archive search you are obsessed and lose!
Y'shtola sucks ass as a character, cry about it. Didn't even get her own sacrifice scene in EW, Urianger had to help her out.
Making an entire blogpost about how Y'shtola is supposedly a great character with lots of development and then filling half of said blogpost with headcanon bullshit, then accusing people that call you out of being "obsessed".
>I exposed there's a huge amount of seethe for a character analysis YOU LOSE
What?
>character analysis
1 month ago
Anonymous
we are reaching radioactive levels of "i don't like it so it doesn't count" lol
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I like it so it does count
If I had know 5 months after my first year-level analysis there'd still be people seething about it and bringing it up I'd have made it longer.
>my first year-level analysis
You'd get an F for that, since half of it is fanfiction.
No because I ain't reading all that shit. Really if we had options I probably wouldn't put Y'shtola in the top 5. Maybe 6, but really she's just the last left.
Alright fellow waifufags, YOU get to pick one previous female story character to join your WoL on journeys. This character is there for you, they want to travel with you, they want to help you out and are willing to pick up a weapon for you at a moments notice.
Who do you pick? I pick Sadu or Fordola.
Venat for me, though you had to expect this response to be one of the first.
Isn't it a marvelous thing to discover the one person that still even conserves a screencap and link to a text you wrote months ago is the anon seething most about it, and he's STILL accusing random people of being you?
>(that's why it's currently in the worst state it has ever been)
It's currently in the worst state it has ever been because the new lead writer is a fucking hack
They don't play them, they ruin them.
Tales? Ruined by women.
Fire Emblem? Ruined by women.
Final Fantasy? Ruined by women.
There hasn't been a single good jrpg since the ps2.
Alright fellow waifufags, YOU get to pick one previous female story character to join your WoL on journeys. This character is there for you, they want to travel with you, they want to help you out and are willing to pick up a weapon for you at a moments notice.
Ryne, don't even need to think about it. Sadu and Fordola are sexy but Sadu is a one-dimensional character and Fordola is arguably the worst character in the entire game due to her circumstances.
I realized a while ago while wanting to take screenshots with npcs that I don't particularly care about any beside maybe Yugiri and even then now I tire of her.
I don't really care. I just think there needs to be more adult women in the scions. At this point it's down to Y'shtola, femlalas and a kid. Unfortunately it appears we're probably about to get a new one and it's a god damned furry.
>post pictures >he's going on a spree accusing multiple different anons of being one angry person now
this is amazing who knew shtolafags were emotionally volatile
somebody holding a grudge against a post for months to years because there's no easy way to dismiss it without crying "mental illness" like baby's first /misc/ post is why i come to Ganker
oh come off it you fucking idiot if mentioning /misc/ at all is enough to offend your delicate virgin flower sensibilities then you shouldn't be bawling anybody else can't take the heat
Then why did you respond? That was clearly not addressed to you and yet you felt attacked. And now you just changed the way you type. Could it be you're regularly switching for some reason?
If you're getting mad at internet posts it's time to step away from the PC
1 month ago
Anonymous
about that "everybody one person" blurt out, sis
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh my god guys he opened the Runar folder.
Everybody duck, he's gonna hit us with some baits from 2019.
It's not that serious just take a break from the internet
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh my god guys he opened the Runar folder.
Everybody duck, he's gonna hit us with some baits from 2019.
Then why did you respond? That was clearly not addressed to you and yet you felt attacked. And now you just changed the way you type. Could it be you're regularly switching for some reason?
He's trying really badly to get "everybody one person" to take off as a catchphrase but it just makes him look like Urkel to be tbh.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Reminds me of another place that had some schizo spam Juan guy, but then mods finally took action and literally hundreds of doomfag posts were removed in a single thread. Mind you, he did this for almost every thread for 2.5 years and gaslit us about public opinion until cracks began to show. It wasnt until we finally had fucking enough cause now we had reason to believe that it was indeed the same person (absences at same time, inability to keep up with rapid posts against him) cause he was just straight up slinging shitposts enough and anonymously and actually managed to tank the series's reputation and discussion on the board to the point that now that we've returned, we've literally timecapsuled from 2020.
I'm just saying that schizos can actually harm discussion at least on Ganker through cheap tricks like this
1 month ago
Anonymous
you mean the guy who posts his laundry list every 5 minute when someone calls him a tard?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>guy complaining about samefagging is in fact an enormous samefag
many such cases
1 month ago
Anonymous
regardless of ther veracity here, samefags and shitposters do tend to point the finger a lot, yes
God Y'shtola's lips are so lucious I literally want to plunge my lalafellin dick into her mouth to feel their texture peeling it open and exoeriencing true velvet pleasure. Garuda too, I want my dick colored green by the end of it
It's only vague that Haurchefant wants you inside him in the English localization, it's mindbogglingly explicit in other languages. You aren't going to squeeze blood from a rock in regards to Alisaie or G'raha Tia wanting your cock, meanwhile.
Haurchefant was a great friend, and if I were a female WOL he'd have earned her.
It's only vague that Haurchefant wants you inside him in the English localization, it's mindbogglingly explicit in other languages. You aren't going to squeeze blood from a rock in regards to Alisaie or G'raha Tia wanting your cock, meanwhile.
Ok maybe not. Still, dude was swell and grand enough that I wouldnt even be mad if it is true that he wants WOL, male or female.
>dude was swell and grand enough that I wouldnt even be mad if it is true that he wants WOL, male or female.
1) He's WoLsexual and furiously attracted regardless of player gender
2) He's pretty explicit still in things that aren't the immediate MSQ, like the FATE about a shipment of chocobo-riding equipment to his camp (that does not have any chocobo stabled) or the Year of the Horse Heavensturn where he asks you to be his horse
>Alpha&Omega travel around and show up at seasonal events >Loporrits show up at seasonal events >Misc story NPC's show up in seasonal events dressed up in costumes >No blue bird shows up at seasonal events
wtf
I do think we will get a Meteion cameo at some point but it's a much bigger deal for her to appear than it is for those others so they are holding off for now
>Alpha&Omega travel around and show up at seasonal events >Loporrits show up at seasonal events >Misc story NPC's show up in seasonal events dressed up in costumes >No blue bird shows up at seasonal events
wtf
I'm going to be genuinely upset if we don't get anything with Meteion in DT. Every fucking character in this game shows up at least twice, she's the only one right now that I actually do want to see again.
I remember that when the coof pandemic was starting I was invited to someone's EB ceremony, and then like the day before my dad tested positive for the coof, and the day of the EB ceremony I had to stay in bed all day because I felt like shit. At the very least I did send an apology via in-game mail
To be honest all she did was skype call us like 3 times, ghost us for a full year and then we went back in time and interacted with her autistic past self for like 30 minutes. Then she nuked me and fucking super died. All of our "hydaelyn" feels comes from scion gaslighting and made up bullshit. We only spent a night with her at most.
>We didn't get to spend enough time with her
Whoa, anon. You won't find me disagreeing.
And despite it all, she's more memorable (for me) than a good chunk of the characters in the past several years. I like her more than Emet.
I want to fucking kill Zenos though? Not going to like Stormblood makes Garleans seem like scum of the Earth, Cid and Nero are cool but there is something inherent about Garlemald that needs it exterminated and burned off the face of the planet.
Consider that he can have the fightboner shit Zenos offers him in Venat.
Without all the "let's burn the world down and sup on the ashes that remain." shit.
SB was bad enough but then in EW they really strove to make them as untreatable as humanly possible. >You want to deliver us supplies so we can survive but the killbots we no longer have control of are trying to kill you instead? NOOOOOO DON'T TOUCH THEM; JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE
It just makes the RPR start questline seem odd >discriminate against garleans? BAD
I would fucking agree if these fuckers didnt treat everyone like how people in FFXVI treated bearers
True. Too many female players in Western Servers make themselves overly ugly, I've seen Viera's who loom the stuff of nightmares, and Au Ras who deliberately age their characters up when they look best young and supple
Pretty sure that just adds to the appeal for them. personally I don't see how Venat could be a romance for anyone. She is a good example of 'loving everyone means loving no one in particular'. Worthy of a goddess but not a suitable partner.
anon.... your character is outright her favorite mortal
you're her LITTLE SPARK
She sees in Azem and in the WoL something of a kindred spirit, but it doesn't follow that her care for them runs deeper than anyone else. She is an aloof figure. Overflowing with affection for every living thing but just that and nothing more.
>my little spark
Does she ever call you that? Or is that just from that song which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics. It is addressing just any soul that came back to her after death.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, but she does call you her "light of the future." >which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics.
Anon....
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Or is that just from that song which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics.
Bro it is so explicit she's talking to WoL in the first few bars of the lyrics that I can't even meme on you for this one.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Flow and Flow Together literally play when (You) are dueling her and when she has her last little chat with (You) personally.
Reminder that there is a difference between "I enjoy this character" and "I want to cover every inch of this character's skin in my semen", and that there isn't necessarily an overlap between these two. Point in case: Lyse.
That's good and all but the real issue here is the people who fit into the description apparently find it completely impossible to understand that maybe someone DOES enjoy the character.
I'd say the real issue here is that some people think too much with their cock, so they suddenly like boring or even obnoxious characters for their """personality""".
I'm a Shadowbabby and I was pretty surprised to learn how much people hate Lyse after playing through SB.
I thought she was fine, really naive and pretty dumb at times, but that's basically all she was known for in ARR. She grew to be less stupid, but still had the naive and idealistic side to her which I kind of liked. She also had some fun scenes like kicking the Namazu
When people say "Lyse is awful", what they actually mean is "Lyse gets used in an awful way". It's a bit different but the intention behind the criticism still stands.
This is how I feel about most characters I particularly dislike. All except one. Fordola. She's fucking indefensible after that story they released about her. When it turned out that she, in fact, was NOT justified in punishing her own people that hard and was actually shown kindness and understanding by someone who even fucking died for her. At that point it's not a matter of her being badly used, she's just awful herself from start to finish.
I genuinely believe that Fordola is the absolute worst non-trivial character in this game. I know that she's pretty and has a sexy VA and all that, but she's just awful and I was actively suffering every time the story went back to being about her in some way.
I could get behind her plot back in SB. Like, I could see what she was coming from. When she friendly fired and killed all her friends, she was fucking pushing it then, at that point she went beyond sympathy, but you know, let's see how it keeps going, and it seemed she had a fairly decent redemption story going on after all. But then they released that story and I just went "Ok no, fuck this cunt, should have fucking died". The fact Lyse ended up sparing and defending the woman who got her sister killed without knowing it and is seemingly never going to find out also feels shitty.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Even before it was made abundantly clear that she is a psychopath with no real remorse I already hated her because of the "disappears with smoke bombs" shit. That's not on the character, true, but the association already made me hate her.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Don't forget that Lyse and Raubahn are effectively despots by deciding to spare her without the consent of any other governing body and against the explicit wishes of their people. I'll never forget the scene where Raubahn is lying in the faces of the widows and orphans, saying "justice will be done but right now we need her". Well Raubahn, WHEN will justice be done? Who are you to decide the manner of her punishment?
Ala Mhigo will be the same tyrannical shithole in a few decades like it was before, guaranteed.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>without the consent of any other governing body
lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs, didn't read the rest. decent bait
1 month ago
Anonymous
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
So the people should decide, right? And the people decided they wanted to kill her.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
Yes, that's what makes them despots. Raubahn and Lyse decide on their own, against the explicit wishes of the population, what to do with this war criminal.
I don't think he's going to argue with you about this despot-kun
1 month ago
Anonymous
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
Yes, that's what makes them despots. Raubahn and Lyse decide on their own, against the explicit wishes of the population, what to do with this war criminal.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>didn't read the rest
Maybe you should do this next time before typing out dumb shit, you retarded fucking favela monkey.
[...]
I don't think he's going to argue with you about this despot-kun
Nice samefagging.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
So the people should decide, right? And the people decided they wanted to kill her.
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
Yes, that's what makes them despots. Raubahn and Lyse decide on their own, against the explicit wishes of the population, what to do with this war criminal.
>didn't read the rest
Maybe you should do this next time before typing out dumb shit, you retarded fucking favela monkey.
[...]
Nice samefagging.
God damn, you're mad, dude. Namaste
1 month ago
Anonymous
>get called out for being too stupid to read >u-ur mad!
Hien might be a dumbass but he's definitely not the worst.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's offensively stupid and never actually earns the veneration he receives from his people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hien might be a dumbass but he's definitely not the worst.
Hien is a dumbass and the veneration his subjects show him ingame is completely unearned, but I wouldn't call him at all one of the worst characters in the game because he hardly actually alters story events, he just kinda fucks around with a few ideas that amount to nothing.
1 month ago
Anonymous
A character can be dogshit without being highly relevant to the actual plot.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's offensively stupid and never actually earns the veneration he receives from his people.
Hien is too gigabrained for you plebs. The entire tsuyu arc is masterfully played. You think he really “accidentally” left her door wide open whoops yugiri also let her wander off on “accident”
Dude masterfully played all factions into getting what he wanted. Freed doman POWs, bolstered ties with the non retarded garleans, got Yotsuyu and Asahi killed, all without looking like an asshole to his friend gosetsu. He’s a psychopath and you’re just getting played.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I know you're just joking but the latest role quest involving him actually exposes his stupidity for in-game characters for once.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It’s a ruse, never trust a chinaman as devious as Hien
This bitch should have been giving the wol infinite wet dreams as a prank every night but she's too busy being genderless and ruling a fairy kingdom made of autistic children ghosts. Why does the WoL always lure sex fiends that can't sex the shit out of him for one reason or another? And why most of them are redheads?
I can't even remember the last time I did a dungeon with players. I have all jobs leveled to 90, I don't do dungeon roulettes and I do first time dungeons with trusts. It might have been in 6.1 or something
>She doesn't even look 18.
Funniest part about this post is that Y'shtola would probably be uncontrollably smiling for the rest of the month if she got to read it.
I love and hate Monk. Its got almost no moves in significant periods of level progression, yet when you do get a move its some crazy shit
Monk in the level 50s is some serious arid shit. 60s feels the same with only 2 riddle moves in the course of its progression, but is redeemed through beast chakra.
Swimsuit scene incoming. And by that I mean Thancred and Urianger in swimsuits. Y'shtola is at the library and Alisaie is eating wierd shit with G'raha.
Alisaie wouldn't be there because she'd need to be given a female body rather than using Alphinaud's. Y'shtola wouldn't be there because that'd upset the female playerbase. You'd better believe G'raha and Estinien will be there though. Erenville too probably.
>special cutscene where you have a dialogue choice to spend a night with Y’shtola and/or Alisaie >if you took the option then 7.3 patch has them show you a positive pregnancy test.vxxdw
>FFXIV. >Keeping track of what goes on in skippable cutscenes.
Hah, good luck, unless it's an actual splitting questline like Krile/Ejika or Anogg/Konogg.
Also NICE CAPTCHA DIPSHIT.
I got a ban over at /vg/ because I posted an ingame chatlog in /xivg/. I even removed the names and all that beforehand so I have no idea what triggered the fucking janny.
You can get banned from /xivg/ for interfering with the circlejerk there nowadays. There's a reason why all discussion (even if it's just coomers) happens here on Ganker instead.
Don’t know how people unironically hate Fordola. Especially if they do >muh friendly fire
That’s literally why she’s admirable. She was given an order, she fulfilled it. But she showed personal responsibly and never deflected or blamed her condition. She took credit for giving the order. If she was mopey or weepy and deflected to but I was just following le orders that is not just detestable but also trite, boring shit.
*uses a smoke bomb for the fourth time in a row to escape*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
*only lives due to the whims of a retard*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
*becomes an ally*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
Easy. The whole game she's presented as someone who started with good intentions, but because her father was killed and no other ala mhigan ever showed her understanding and compassion she went off the deep end.
Then it turns out that she actually has close personal childhood friends that were always there for her, and she kills them because "just following orders". Then it also turns out her mother begged her to not enlist and become a garlean soldier. Then it turns out that FUCKING YDA, A RESISTANCE SOLDIER, ACTUALLY SHOWED HER UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION AND EVEN ACTUALLY SACRIFICED HERSELF FOR HER AND SHE FULLY KNEW.
So in short, she was just scum. Easily manipulated scum that Zenos got to betray all her principles and go against everyone who ever loved her with merely a couple centences.
The whole initial point of Fordola enlisting was that she wanted the garleans to start considering ala mhigans as equals, so she decided to work twice as hard and be thrice as obedient as the actual garleans. She completely lost track of it in favor of "But what if I just fucking torture my own people so hard they start calling me the Butcher".
She killed hundreds of innocents and never once showed even an ounce of regret. Meanwhile she gets spared because Lyse discovers her lesbian side or something and she repays that immense kindness with acting like an entitled brat.
>mhiggers >innocent
Regardless, she does show regret she just takes actual responsibility when it was easy to deflect with muh situation I had to le do it.
No, she does the exact opposite. She admits she personally chose to follow orders, or in the case of friendly fire, give it. She never once says I was just following le orders
No, it’s like Zeno’s “would it matter if I had a good reason”. You do bad things, you take responsibility for them. You do not deflect with weepy, self-centered bullshit. Nobody wants to hear when a criminal says they “had” to commit crime. It’s always more admirable when someone tells the truth.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well yeah but it makes her an awful character in the way she's being presented and used in the story then. Like you're obviously supposed to sympathize with her and feel like Lyse is doing "the right thing" by granting her a sort of mercy and all that, when actually she should've just been hanged by the lynchmob on day 1.
1 month ago
Anonymous
In reality he’s she probably would have been hanged but that’s the thing, she basically agrees with that sentiment. That’s why she’s admirable. A coward who would deflect with muh orders I had to le do it I just wanted to succeed would not admit they deserve to be hanged. In game, she probably would have been killed if not for the sharingan making her useful, regardless of what lyse thought. It was a joint decision with Raubahn
1 month ago
Anonymous
What you're describing is something that happens on accident and is clearly not the intention of the writers or what you're supposed to take away from the character. You can't just ignore every other part of the storytelling in that regard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Fordola is written to be admirable. She also has more of an eastern philosophy about her (they don’t give a fuck about war crimes). It’s why they keep her alive anon. It is intended. Her character in general exists as a foil to lyse, another young woman on the other side of the conflict going through her own personal growth.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Neither Lyse nor Fordola grow in any way whatsoever though. The story pretends that they do, but they really don't. Lyse is just as naive and stupid at the end of SB as she is at the beginning of it. Fordola is just as selfish and ruthless at the end of SB as she is at the beginning of it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Fordola is written to be admirable.
I thought I understood what you were getting at but now I'm concerned.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sure, I killed hundreds of people, tortured a lot of them, enforced an oppressive and purposefully mismanaged regime and am a war criminal. >But I did it for myself, not for them.
>the virgin “butcher”
Kills own citizens so conquering nation recognizes her >the CHAD IVth legion
Kills citizens, bombs own nation(s), turns own citizens and POWs into magitek/lucavi abominations, sends legions of native wildlife for the slaughter, tempers own citizens with primal magicks, awakens allagan relics to crater their native countries for the sake of GIGA CHAD off screen death man to make a glorious new nation
It’s pretty funny how schizo matsuno writing is, in the field notes the IVth are supposed to be these morally grey idealists but then you fight the same people and they are shouting about stomping everyone into meet slop and gleefully laughing about dabog being tortured and turned into a robot to killed for the 166421123th time (seriously why does this nigga die like 100 times in bozja)
What? He's one of the few who didn't fall for the grift train and genuinely defends not only the game but also the community. He earned some of my respect by watching the whole Wesker video and pretty much agreeing with every single thing in there.
Oh, no.
I hate ecelebs, but I begrudgingly respect him for keeping a cool head and not falling for the easy "le ziv ded doom r here" clickbait paradigm.
Wait those aren't MILFs
They should be.
Venat might be. She was alive for potentially thousands of years before the sundering, who knows if she had a kid or two.
Also she's spiritually the mother of existence, so she probably gets a pass.
I feel like if Venat had a kid or two we would have learned of it by now, seeing as they're so determined to close up every ancient-related plot before we head off into DT. Remember when people theorized Elidibus was Venat's son?
That could still technically be true though revealing that now would serve no purpose
Venat is not a mother because she had been waiting 12,000 years for (You) to make her one...
>I feel like if Venat had a kid or two we would have learned of it by now
I unironically believe Themis was at one point intended to be her child. Maybe to add to the tragedy where Venat bcame Hydaelyn and her own son became the symbol of everything she stood against.
But they nixed that.
That second part was meant as a reply to
Maybe they nixed the Themis = Venat's son thing especially so that people can waifu her without feeling cucked. Just as Y'shtola and a bunch of other female characters have no canonical partner or lover for the same reason.
She's an eternal cat lady and turned the whole world into her cats. That womb is fossilized by now.
It's (You)r fault, anon. She's been waiting for (You).
She could have just asked for sex when she talked to me after character creation but noooooo, go pick crystals and kill ghosts and shit
Don't tell me you missed the cutscene where she pins you down and amazon presses you?
That's going to be one hell of an echo vision.
ill make her one
Fire emblem has a few hags
The ones in engage are very powerful, shame you can't marry them.
You can marry Rhea in 3H though
I thought "Hag" referred to basically any female over 18? Or do you mean to say cake?
Some of the writers and character designers are based but then they get overwritten by fujodev to ensure they don't stick around, as women with tits naturally offend them. I'm convinced Y'shtola has only survived because YoshiP won't allow her death.
>I'm convinced Y'shtola has only survived because YoshiP won't allow her death.
Yes. She's a fairly inoffensive surface level waifu used to sell merch.
She'd have died if not for that.
>EVERYTHING IS FUJOS BECAUSE IT ISNT LIKE MY PORNOS
>NO I AM NOT A PORN ADDICT
>YES I HATE WOMEN EVEN THOUGH IVE NEVER BEEN WITH ONE
>anon is mad because fujoshits keep killing off the cool women characters and keep the twinky men lapping your character's boots around
>"YOU JUST HATE FUJOS CUZ U HATE WOMEN"
Are you touched in the head?
Stop looking at everything through a pornographic lense. Someone smiling at you does not mean they want to fuck you.
what the fuck are you talking about
It's a triggered fujo having a melty, just ignore her (or him, in the likely case it's just a homosexual fiend).
You spend every thread 24 hours a day crying about nonexistent fujo shit because you are a sub an 70 IQ porn addict who is deeply autistic.
you are not going to stop people from hating the fujoshit writers who kill off every woman that isn't y'shtola or alisaie while keeping homosexuals like g'raha around to plague us with their rampant fanboyism
>YOU DON'T GET IT UNLESS THEY'RE ALL WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR TITS OUT AND SUCKING THE WOLS DICK THE GAME IS FUJO
>VOUCH FOR MY PORN ADDICTION!!!!
melt, fujoshit
g'raha will never be real and if god is real he'll be dead in dawntrail
don't care about homosexual pandering you nasty tranny
trannies are porn addicts that hate women(You) and are inherently opposed to pandering to women
pandering that isn't there because you are a mentally ill porn addict tranny with a warped view of social interraction
>another strawman
And the fujo tranny is broken, see you next thread, little buddy.
Then remove all the fanservice for male characters too. Inb4 "there is no fanservice".
Meanwhile Estinien is constantly shirtless
You're supposed to use this meme against retards, not against people who are actually in the right.
>but then they get overwritten by fujodev to ensure they don't stick around
Most of the female characters were killed off in ARR and we didn't start getting a steady stream of female characters until she became leader writer, so what the fuck are you talking about?
How many of those female characters introduced past ARR do we still have around?
About 10 or 12 of them, and now that she's not the lead anymore the number of female characters introduced that are still alive is exactly 1.
"Do we still have around" meaning "remotely relevant". Not dead or written out of the story/thrown to the sidelines.
She didn't really take charge till ShB. It's ashamed because the Scions are something of a sausage party at this point, but instead of adding a new female to the main cast to balance things out they are seemingly adding that fucking rabbit boy because women like him.
>but instead of adding a new female to the main cast to balance things out they are seemingly adding that fucking rabbit boy because women like him.
They're probably adding that new femhroth though.
Well, either that or she'll have the same level of relevance as Yugiri, since she's getting basically the exact same introduction, getting off a boat looking for help and all that.
Being similar to Yugiri isn't the worst thing since Yugiri at least isn't dead and is probably the closest thing we have to a potential waifu that isn't a scion.
Krile is already a scion. Also a potato.
>female Hrothgar in 7.0
>Krile
Okay, first one is speculation, but let's not go overboard with the sausage party here.
>Okay, first one is speculation
well, they showed her legs. But chances are that both Erenville and the Hrothgar woman are only gonna be with us for the expansion. They don't want to add new Scions because that shit is crowded already but they don't want to leave any behind. At most, they'll leave Tataru in Old Sharlayan since she now has her business and whatnot
I hope Erenville fucks off right after the introduction of the new expansion. He has literally no personality whatsoever, it was already bizarre to me how much attention he got during EW.
>fujo game
>fujobait gets attention and screentime while females get removed
wow
>He has literally no personality whatsoever,
doesn't stop zepla and all the other middle aged women from squealing about him
This is potentially the case but we'll have to see. A big part of this depends on what FemHroths will look like. If they are just like the males but slimmer then they'll only appeal to a niche audience anyway. I think what most of the waifufags who are complaining want is a conventionally attractive woman who isn't androgynous.
>If they are just like the males but slimmer
i fucking wish but devs are not based enough for that
>They showed her legs
and at fanfest they showed us her cute tits.
we must stage a rescue operation to extract Y'shtola from the sinking ship of XIV
Let’s bring our girl home
Because the writers are based (for putting hags in the game) and simultaneously cringe (for killing them off, sans Y'shtola)
I'm not sure you know what a milf is.
I will, however, gladly save that picture anyway.
Hey, he's just getting ahead of himself. :^)
Momodi's a fine example if you're into potatoes, I guess.
this is my favorite XIV hag
Am really tired of this eggless hags pandering, neither Venat and Sthola can have kids anymore, one is even dead.
Nigga Venat is (was) fucking immortal. And Y'shtola isn't that old.
>neither Venat and Sthola can have kids
Who says that?
>hags
Where are their eggs?
worry not. I'll make them ovulate, brother.
Good attitude I was just shitposting, Momodi is god tier for a hag
Dont care, gonna keep fucking Venat until she's preggers
XIV needs more hypnosis porn
Yshtola is a 60 iq normalfag choice.
The male hyur dark knight in your dungeon roulette pulling 1 mob at a time and not using any cooldowns is the average shitola enjoyer
Complaining that a waifu is "normalfag choice" is just sour grapes over people wanting an actually attractive woman who's a good partner instead of joining you in wanting an underage futa potato who's into scat and guro because you're a "thinking man".
Also I pull way more than 1 mob at a time.
Venat is eternal. Therefore she is biologically able to bear your children until your dying day.
Kinda hard to conceive children with some flecks of disparate aether
That goes for a good chunk of female characters in XIV.
It's also hard to conceive children with pixels thoughever.
Has race-mixing really been addressed in XIV? If not then it may be hard for a non-potato conceive children with a potato as well.
>Has race-mixing really been addressed in XIV?
"True" race-mixing is hard to do because most of the time the offspring just comes out the mother's race, but sometimes you do get half-breeds.
Cute mongrel
Yes it has. Basically any race mixed child will be the mother's race with a few characteristics of the father's race added on, the two half breeds we've seen are Hilda (Hyur with slightly pointed ears) and an old Au Ra princess (Hyur father and was born with far less prominent scales than normal)
Hyur can apparently sort of reproduce with almost anything.
I'd imagine Ancients aren't much different. I'd be shocked if Ancients can't procreate with the sundered, but it does make me wonder about what the offspring would be like.
its been addressed both in game and in lore panels. someone actually asked if femlalas could comfortably accomodate males of other races, and it was confirmed.
which means two things:
A: femlalas are stretchy
B: male lalas are packing
and because of B, we get the following gem:
C: Male au ra are dicklets
Kind of ashamed then as that could have shut down all the pedos, as everyone knows lalafags are the worst save of course fujos and trannies.
it can happen, but apparently is rare. And it is explained that the child is the mother's race with some features from the father. Hilda is the only example in-game. And I think that while doing quests in the Ruby Sea there's a quest where an Au Ra says a Auri princess had a child with a hyuran man and that the baby almost had no scales
As far we know, only hyurs, elezens and au ra are people.
Let me stop you right there and tell you if in a hypotetical isekai scenario a normal human would not be able to conceive with any of XIV's races because they are not aether beings. And when you die you're back to our purgatory waiting line, no lifestream for you either bucko.
Let me stop you right there and tell you in a hypothetical scenario me being a normal human would not stop me putting my dick in every hole aether being or not and you wouldn't be able to stop me.
Every hole you say? You don't have the gall.
I have two balls though, attached to a cock. Geddit? Because Alpha is a bird. Cock. Chicken. My cock, Alpha is a cock. Balls.
FFXIV made me gay for grown man cock and balls who pretend to be a woman.
Y'shtola's only 26.
That's not that old, is it?
Try 31.
It's still not that old though, it's just funny that she's insecure about it.
Anon.
That would make her younger than her younger sister.
>Y'shtola's only 26.
it is HEAVILY """""IMPLIED""""" that Y'shtola lies about her age
The Virgin "I AM A YOUNG SCHOOLGIRL YES I AM YOUNGER THAN MY OWN YOUNGER SISTER SHUT UP OR I'LL TURN YOU INTO A NIXIE"
The Chad "I'm younger than this verified senior citizen, my child. Now please explain to me how this tomestone contraption works."
>(according to herself)
What, you gonna tell me Venat also lied about her age?
And Hythlodaeus too?
We just don't know.
But even lowballing her age, the best she can give us is "At least I'm not as old as this grandpa."
I mean, they wouldn't be adding the "(according to herself)" if there wasn't a reason to. Emet, Lahabrea and Elidibus don't need that clarification at all.
You're right. I'm just amused that Venat doesn't even try to go "I'm as young as Emet-Selch, I'm as young as [insert younger to middle-aged Amaurotine]."
No, she goes for the "I am at least younger than the senior citizen."
That's both funny and hot to me.
Ok but she clearly looks younger than him so either she's telling the truth or she is able to control her physical appearance or something.
She just aged more gracefully.
(They should've added tear troughs to her model.)
>or she is able to control her physical appearance or something.
I'm pretty sure that's an ability all ancients have? Emet-Selch somehow managed to fool all of Garlemald into thinking he had a normal lifespan as Solus. Venat also looks to be in the 30-40 range (or 40-50 with really fucking good skincare) and yet she's old enough that she has people asking her if she's gonna be killing herself any day soon. I don't think physical appearance means much in ancient society unless you are an actual kid.
You also do meet her 12k years later and she looks smooth af, though that could potentially just be a matter of the primal form.
Elidibus is such a shit character. The only time I ever thought he was interesting was when I mistakenly thought he was a kid with superhero like ideals the convocation put into Zodiark.
miqo'te age very differently. Khloe is 13 despite looking about 6.
Y'shtola is definitely older than she claims.
Hello Y'shtola why are you lying about your age on Ganker?
Why would I lie about that?
Basically a senior citizen by anime protagonist standards.
>silent, judgemental stare
>PoV_youre_a_Duskwight
...ok? I can very clearly see we're on the First though. There's no elezen on elezen racism here.
Just elezen against everyone else.
I'm from gridania you d*rkie.
You're all homosexuals, the only real woman with a decent sized pair of tits in this game.
Not the biggest pair of tits but she's also offs herself along with all the other gods save the homosexual of course, because women run this game.
It was a man who wrote that Alliance quest.
And a woman is the lead over him. If this was all a guy then he's a tremendous homosexual.
>Not the biggest pair of tits but she's also offs herself along with all the other gods save the homosexual of course
Do you have problems comprehending basic english?
>Not the biggest pair of tits
Who the fuck has bigger in this game?
Stop modbeasting, what are you going to do when Yoshida finally wakes up and bans all fucking mods?
>Who the fuck has bigger in this game?
NTA but Siren. The one in Pharos and the one in the BRD quests (same model).
Sure. Endsinger was literally just one single scientist fucking around in his spare time and accidentally tapping into a near limitless energy source in the worst way. Do you know how easy that kind of plot is to implement into any setting? They can just pull similar, like a villain who finds some sort of power loop. Plus what
a villain doesn't necessarily have to be stronger than the previous one, it just takes them knowing where to strike.
I doubt they'll bring up dynamis again, to be honest. It's kind of a can of worms.
If I'm wrong, though, I guess they can always go back to dynamis fuckery to create a threat. But it might all end up feeling a bit like Endsinger 2.0.
>Siren
Yeah alright, fair is fair those are a nice pair.
Ending to that raid pissed me off so much. Square-Enix just can't leave deities alone, can they? Not even the genuinely benevolent ones. Yeah, they were still essentially Eikons/Primals/sundered Ancients, but for fuck's sake, take off the damn fedora for one fucking second, you soulless Japs.
Can't bring myself to care for Nophica beyond the "haha matron's teats" meme.
>bibo medium at best
Mods have ruined this game for me
Bibo uranus isn't even big enough for my tastes.
Mods did ruin me.
I wish someone would fix the jank with the megamilf2 mod.
Uranus is fine for me, I was trying xxl earlier this week but realized it wasn't for me, legs have switch from large to plump though
I want to fuck an elf.
How hairy is her pussy?
I floss my teeth with her pubic hair every night.
>tfw suddenly your whole team gets replaced by ghosts for some mysterious reason
Do you think they can pull a bigger threat than Endsinger?
ofc, you still have the other reflections and their own problems
I stopped trying to care about powerscaling ages ago.
Even if something is stronger than another thing, it's still possible for the weaker villain to hold the world hostage. And we've been fighting technically weaker enemies since Endsinger died. Do you think Golbez or Zeromus could take on Endsinger? Do you think they could even take on Zodiark?
look at her cleavage. She can pull my cock all day long
just finished IX so I hope they make an expansion where another reflection is dying/running out of resources and a former ascian now wants to save that reflection inhabitants by "rejoining" with the Source
Lufenia.
They have been portrayed as interdimensional assholes for several games, but that might be a Nomura thing.
it's a nomura thing but he has carte blanche since FF1 doesn't explain them at all
>chaosbringer job
>jack npc
Holy kino
the fuck is that face
what are you fags even doing in the game now?
Crafters and gatherers.
So many crafters and gatherers...
I've actually finished leveling the gatherers but I still have the tribe quests left.
Same thing I do every expansion: tackle the stuff I feel like doing, unsub when I don't have anything to do.
so you're unsub now. Because there's literally nothing to do.
I have stuff to do, still.
I'm sorry you don't have a braindead bozja to grind, but I've never been into that shit, so EW is the same as previous expansions. Arguably more content-rich because it has more that isn't tied up in some foray I avoid like the plague.
then what are you doing
your mom
criterion
PotD solo. got to 194 as RPR but died because I was being very stupid. I had 3 Rage, 3 Reso and 3 Salv ready too. After that I'll probably try EO solo as BLM or try to find a group for Crit Savages
Logging in once a week to collect from my robo-slaves and schedule new tasks.
I really hope Dawntrail adds something fun to this game cause all the current content is fucking trash.
*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
shtola is like 30
that is not a milf
>shtola is like 30
>like 30
old hag
>try to level all jobs to 90
>some of them have been stuck at 50 since forever
>get to the very last ones, PLD, BRD and MNK
I can't do this, fuck the Amaro mount.
When cuck devs are finally addressing the question how many hyur men would it take to make Y'shtola pregnant?
Either 50 normal hyurs, or a mere whiff of WoL masturbating in the next room.
I went balls deep in femlala(probably male) pussy on an ERP server
Ama
why are you gay?
Why not?
If japs don't want their hags they should start exporting them, i'm pretty sure there will be enough takers
are trannies still freaking out about "fujo pandering" that isn't there?
Yeah, they're the ones "freaking out", not this guy
. Totally.
Just let the guy sneethe and shit his pants.
>resort to strawman argumentation three times in a row
>switch IDs and pretend like the other side were the ones doing it
have a nice day.
>everyone is one person
I'm him. I'm the guy.
Krile willl be a main character in about two months and hopefully that mean an uptick in porn too
If fujo pandering wasn't real, G'raha wouldn't be alive right now.
>"t-trannies are the ones against fujo pandering"
Nice projection from the fujowart.
Why should SquareEnix pander to straight men when they don't even play the game?
straight men are the ones drawing porn aka only reason why this game is even remembered
>straight men are the ones drawing porn
who else does it? fags and troons can only produce abominations as gross as themselves and women art is too obvious
So the straight men are the ones responsible for all that porn on pixiv of Emet getting his guts re-arranged by the WoL?
dunno i'm not looking for gay shit like you homo, xiv has a buttload of normal porn and most of it is clearly made by straight people
Imagine how shit Dawntrail story will end up being if they have graha and the black rabbit following us around the whole time.
just get to the point and rant about g'raha and erenville for thirty posts
I'm not part of that shitflinging contest but Erenville is genuinely a non-character at this point. If he sticks around in Dawntrail they better give him something more to do than just spout exposition or go "I know a guy".
>G'raha and Alisae are the only Scions whose attire is colored in mostly red
>Scenes at the end of Part 1 Endwalker at WoL's inn room were the only two that hinted at something more than platonic (fuck off Y'shtola fags, that shit was formal as fuck, and you know it)
>G'raha and Alisae were the closest to the WoL when he was teleported back to the ship, and were the only two to actually shed tears (again, fuck off Y'shtola fags, that line about her heart breaking was mere teasing at best)
>If one knows even a modicum about Japanese culture, the significance of the color red hints at a fuck ton
Screencap this. 7.0 is going to be huge for the shippers
You're right but problem is that Alisaie isn't being pushed to appeal to waifufags, she's being pushed to throw them a token since she's totally inoffensive and has the 'strong womyn' sort of personality.
There will never be any kind of romance involving the WoL in this game (outside of jokes). It will never, ever happen.
>It will never, ever happen.
It will when the game truly starts to die.
So soon then?
Yes, please look forward to the WoL harem DLC pack which for the low low price of 14.99 a month allows you filthy fucking degenerates to create your own romantic quest with your favorite FF14 NPCs. Ability to romance non-living NPCs will be in a separate pack soon to be discussed at FanFest 2025
Time to die, anon.
Why do G'rahafags and Alisaiefags just seethe 24/7 about Y'shtola? I don't get it. You guys get catered to constantly, but the fucking instant Y'shtola says something romantic you just throw a bitchfit.
You even just made it painfully obvious you know perfectly well Y'shtola talking about her heart several times is more romantic, or else you wouldn't have bothered mentioning her at all, you would just have talked about G'raha and Alisaie.
you are just mentally ill
Oh boy, you're the guy that has been seething for months now about that post.
Yeah no, you would know what being mentally ill is like.
it is a funny post why are you so mad about it being posted?
I'm not mad about it being posted, I'm wierded out because you're mad af every time you post it.
>you're mad af
how so? i just think it is a funny screencap because it makes people have melties like you are right now
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/AyfEQJn1-0hIGNz2kc-E8w/
yeah it is pretty great because it gets a reaction every time you even scoured the archives in anger
i am so not mad i am going to look through the archives
She's basically the last potential obstacle. The women all going for G'raha likely feel insecure around a conventionally attractive woman and Alisaiefags are basically either closeted or your standard muh DFC "anyone over 18 is a dirty hag!" type.
G'raha and Alisaie have also slept together. Then got angry when WoL walked in on them!
>The CANON love interests (WHICH IS NOT Y'SHTOLA) are gonna be in the story.
>And because the story is gonna include the love interests (WHICH ARE NOT Y'SHTOLA) we will see a lot of cutscenes (WHICH WILL NOT INVOLVE Y'SHTOLA) and they will be really shippy (BUT NOT Y'SHTOLA, SHUT UP Y'SHTOLAFAGS THAT SCENE WAS NOT ROMANTIC, NO I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS ROMANTIC AND I JUST TO SAY IT DOESN'T COUNT BEFORE YOU OBVIOUSLY PROVE ME WRONG)
You misunderstood my post. I don't hate Y'shtola. If she was being pushed as a potential waifu I would be all for it. If there was a Tomb Raider 1-esque "super-secret-but-doesn't-really-exist-gotcha-you-gullible-motherfuckers" movement cheat to get a nude scene with the blind cat girl I would do it in a heartbeat. It's not the character I have a problem with. It's the deluded fanbase. I understand subtext. I understand dialogue. I can read between the lines. I know what's being said in a scene and what's being left unsaid. This isn't my first rodeo. I didn't use that Tomb Raider example as randomly either. Lara Croft, as per the original developer's own words, was a female protagonist designed to be in this sort of...lofty position--sexuallly, that is. The kind of woman you couldn't really see settling down with anyone, perhaps not even for a one-night stand.
A sort of mythological female warrior deity whose mind is so singularly focused on battle there is no time for anything else. Yes, there is sexual appeal. Sexual draw. And the character knows it. But she just isn't wired that way. And unlike Alisae and G'raha, I know the hints inclinations are simply not there for Y'shtola. I don't see them, despite me wishing otherwise.
tl;dr: I see reality for the way it is, not for the way I want it to be. Y'shtola is not being pushed upon the WoL.
This post is just as unhinged as the ramblings from the Y'sthola fag, you both deserve each other.
As long as you feel superior to both groups that's what counts
You can dislike a character without writing a homosexual manifesto. I think Y'shtola is fine as a pretty character to look at or to sometimes spout exposition, but I wouldn't call her an actually good character or that she has great chemistry with anyone (except with Matoya, which she needs more scenes of imo).
She has some fun interactions when you are allowed to directly interact with her. Main issue is she hasn't ever been allowed much focus, which can also go for some others like Urianger. The main problem of course has been the twins who need to constantly be the center of attention.
>which can also go for some others like Urianger
I vehemently disagree. Urianger has been the most consistent of the scions, with only a little lull during Stormblood. Not only is he often heavily involved in the actual plot, but he also faces real ideological challenges and keeps having great moments in almost every expansion. He also has one of the best reasons to stick around still.
>The main problem of course has been the twins who need to constantly be the center of attention.
Alphinaud hasn't been the center of attention since Stormblood. I don't think he even did anything of true import since then.
>Urianger has been the most consistent of the scions
Urianger has had some character moments but they usually come in small bursts. More than Y'shtola sure but he's not a huge and prominent presence most of the time.
>Alphinaud hasn't been the center of attention since Stormblood. I don't think he even did anything of true import since then.
ShB had his relation towards Eulmore where that whole thing was around him. And EW has he and Alisaie with their family situation and the exploration of Garlemald is mostly based around them. But it's more that he and Alisaie constantly get focus in screentime and dialogue.
>but he's not a huge and prominent presence most of the time.
He doesn't have to be. I said he is constantly present in some way, not that he's super important. In ARR he had the whole thing with Moenbryda and Elidibus, in HW he's the one to track Y'shtola down and has the deal with the WoDs and the business with Unulkalhai, in SB he has his smallest role with just giving a neat prophecy and later on discussing the fake echo with Krile, in ShB he has tons to do with Il Mheg, G'raha's "betrayal", heartfelt moments with Ryne and so on, in EW he has a great payoff moment with Moenbryda's parents and builds a bond with the Loporrits, acting as their main intermediary. Something else that's funny though, since people are talking a lot about Y'shtola, if you go back and pay attention to it you'll notice that her and Urianger actually kinda switched roles during the course of the game. Urianger was the one to give exposition regarding primals, aether, elemental concepts and so on. It's just that in addition to that he also actually had something to do.
Disagree with Urianger having "tons to do" in ShB, his whole inner conflict in ShB was precisely that Exarch asked him to not do anything at all. Just pretend nothing's happening and not spill the beans when Y'shtola starts demanding to know why WoL is turning into a bomb. Urianger's biggest act in all of ShB is just raising a hand to stop her from blowing Exarch's head off mid-ritual (and cheering up Ryne).
Keep in mind when I say something like "tons to do", I mean it in relation to other side characters.
I mean, if we're talking in comparison to every other Scion, I'd say he still came with the short end of the stick.
>Thancred: Whole plot with Ryne, the biggest one.
>Alphinaud: Eulmore.
>Alisaie: Sin eaterism/tempering.
>Y'shtola: Exploring ruins to uncover plots and fake out death-ing herself for the Night's Blessed.
>Ryne: Basically deuteragonist of the expansion.
Urianger is present sure, but he's really just there for G'raha to vent on someone before he attempts to commit suicide.
Speaking of which, I never fucking understood why he pretended to be a villain right at the climactic moment. If the other Scions had better reflexes they legit might have killed him and then everyone fucking loses.
>I never fucking understood why he pretended to be a villain right at the climactic moment.
"t-that way the WoL and scions won't be heartbroken about my death..."
: Eulmore.
>>Y'shtola: Exploring ruins to uncover plots and fake out death-ing herself for the Night's Blessed.
You're correct on everyone else, but these two were kinda pathetic.
I was actually gonna say Y'shtola's plot was really just being the one who worries about WoL but I decided I should downsell it because anons in this thread seem slightly twitchy about anyone saying Y'shtola cares for WoL.
Also the ruins puzzles and shit were fun and uncovered the secret of Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and Elidibus' plan and workings as a primal, so it wasn't that useless.
Alphinaud was alright, it just seemed kinda less emotional because he met the Chais for like one afternoon. Reminds me of how they wanted me to think Ryne and Gaia were deeply concerned for each other even though we barely got minutes of just Gaia telling her to fuck off.
>Also the ruins puzzles and shit were fun and uncovered the secret of Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and Elidibus' plan and workings as a primal, so it wasn't that useless.
Sure, but that's not really a "character moment", nor is Y'shtola the main driving force for getting there.
>Alphinaud was alright, it just seemed kinda less emotional because he met the Chais for like one afternoon.
I think the worst part is how Alphinaud isn't the one to bring a conclusion to the whole Eulmore thing. He's part of the introduction but never actually connected to it. The writers tried to make some kind of allegory between him and Vautry but that didn't work at all, imo.
>but that's not really a "character moment", nor is Y'shtola the main driving force for getting there.
I agree with the first part, it's not like Y'shtola changes from it, but I do think she's the driving force.
On this note and the Alphinaud part, it's actually ironic that in EW we get
>Y'shtola casts the spell that allows us to finally learn what the forum is planning.
>Y'shtola delivers the big speech challenging the forum and calling them out on not helping.
>Y'shtola figures out the loporrits are the forum's secret allies.
>Alphinaud delivers the last speech to convince the forum because his dad works at Nintendo.
>I agree with the first part, it's not like Y'shtola changes from it, but I do think she's the driving force.
I would have to go back and check it for myself, but I distinctly remember back when I played through it the first time thinking to myself "this seems really contrived".
If I remember right, it's Y'shtola who suggests the ronkan ruins might have info on Elidibus in the patches because they already proved useful before but she had no time to study them, and she is the translator of the Scions, and later she does the same with the ruins in... I can't remember what's it called, the underwater place with the fat fish boss. That place where later Elidibus kidnaps her. I don't imagine many more ways of being the driving force than being the one who both suggests it and is also the only one who can do it.
I keep seeing people insisting G'raha is thirsty for WoL and I just don't see it. He doesn't act like someone with a crush, he acts like a fanboy. He never says anything romantic or that heartfelt, the way he talks I'd rather think he wants to BE WoL, not be WITH WoL, he just thinks following us is the best way to achieve it. I wouldn't consider the Adoring Fan from Oblivion a "love interest".
Alisaie, sure, cause she gets jealous every time someone else gets close to WoL.
i think "graha desires you carnally" only makes sense from the point of view of a Ganker poster that assumes any male who doesn't talk to him about chivalry, honor, and a viking death in combat wants to fuck him tbh
If G'raha was a woman you'd be using 'she wants to see the world with WoL' and 'she wants the WoL to take her on an adventure' as reasons for why it is canon that G'raha wants to gobble the WoL's cock.
no i'd be calling her alisaie who is a starry eyed fangirl that's very grateful for binding coils but has an inferiority complex
Alisaie clearly has a crush on the WoL though
i think she just gets wet for heroes and isn't as reserved as her brother is about expressing it
both of them came over to eorzea in the first place because grandpa was a hero and they wanted to become heroes too
>already taking G'raha on an adventure
>but G'raha isn't satisfied and wants another, with JUST the two of you
GEE I WONDER WHY PEOPLE INTERPRET THAT AS G'RAHA WANTING YOU TO SPREAD HIS CHEEKS?
I don't because I don't think either that Y'shtola wanting to explore the shards with WoL is a sign of romantic affection. I think it's what she says in addition to that that's a sign of romantic affection.
On that same note, Merlwyb also says she'd like to get drunk with WoL and I don't think it meant anything, because Merlwyb has never had a scene where she goes all "WoL, thous'rt dearest to mine heart".
Oh and Y'shtola definitely does have way more romantic interactions than G'raha. I just saw this
get posted and it's so blatant I can only assume you're being disingenuous by saying you don't see it. G'raha has never even used a single word related to affection, and he hasn't had jelly moments like Alisaie, so he's way behind both.
He is constantly humping your leg all the time. That being said they don't make romance a real thing in this game. All you get is vague allusions that you can choose to interpret as you wish.
>tfw fujos and homos have taken over the writing team and there's nothing you can do to stop it
anyone had any experience with running this on an external SSD?
shouldn't work any differently or worse than running it on an ssd mounted like a hard-drive
>G'rahafags
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god i hate femra
XIV and Anamnesis literally give you the tools to choose your own romance.
I guarantee Wollo Light and Venat took one look at eachother, just Knew, and immediately began fucking like rabbits.
That's my headcanon.
Since it's canon that the WoL can still travel to the past whenever he pleases, he could easily just spend all his free time in the past fucking Venat.
That's sorta true. You can kinda go that route, even if it is a bit bittersweet.
Imagine for a second this is real life, and you're in love with someone, but you can only meet them in the past. You know they're fated to die; they are dead in your present. Yet they're there, in the past, alive, smiling at you. You can't tell them what happened straight up, because it might fuck things up. Everything you do in the past has some sort of effect, sure, but mostly, it's in some sort of bubble, a vacuum.
>You can't tell them what happened straight up, because it might fuck things up.
If we're equally as retarded as the WoL we will tell them everything that happened and make things both better and worst at the same time.
Yes.
"You're dying in the future and I'll miss you immensely."
>go back to own timeline
>Scoured wasteland
Really with the characterization that WoL is all about ADVENTURE and constantly seeking new challenges it feels like Venat would have been a good match for that. Compare to G'raha who seemingly only wants to come along to be with (You). I guess Y'shtola sorta fits that as well though, from more of an academic sense.
Y'shtola I think makes a good match in her being interested in the learning sense of adventuring, she's there for all the nitty-gritty autism and spending five hours looking at murals on a wall.
Treating the WoL like a bland slate for a moment, you can go any which way.
His equal: a similarly adventurous spirit with the wisdom and experience of ages, who can spin a tale about the events in her life and is equally as excited to behold new vistas as he is. Who loves being rough and tumble as much as she enjoys contemplating new hypotheses about the inner workings of things. Like Venat. Then there's also all the mentor/predecessor stuff to add into that.
His opposite: someone who is more bookish, more about the things the WoL isn't about. To accrue new knowledge and use it in practice, to broaden her scientific horizon. In that way, they can both enrich each other. Like Y'shtola.
The ambitious: someone who aspires to become the WoL's equal. Who tries unflaggingly to keep up with his pace and vows that she will never take the easy route out by resting on her laurels. Always trying to be a better version of herself. This would be Alisaie. There's an argument to be made, however, that Alisaie's bare, wide-eyed admiration makes it hard for her to be an equal partner, but that might not always be the case.
>Really with the characterization that WoL is all about ADVENTURE and constantly seeking new challenges
Based on that the person most suited for the WoL is Azem
"go fuck yourself"
Azem would see the future and leave a rubber dog poo in a treasure-chest in advance for his future self
If most people could fuck themselves they absolutely would so yeah. Really that seems like a requirement for the title of Azem.
With Tales I'd blame it's fall more on the general direction the franchise took after Vesperia where it fell off for most of the part. Final Fantasy likewise fell off after XII, so one may blame a certain obsessed waifufag for that. Fire Emblem generally seems fine since while it has a large female fanbase it still goes well enough to pander to waifufags too. Hell one of the most popular girls in the franchise is also hated by the other half but still gets pandering because she is that popular.
Modern FE is a literal joke, they're just otome games at this point.
FE became insanely popular after becoming "just an otome game"
And was worse for it, becoming popular is a terrible fate for a niche franchise.
all I need is Alisaie
Then go on. Download anamnesis, download whatever mod you need for her, download the PSD file with the dialogue boxes and fonts and proceed to make your own super authentic(tm) cutscene screencaps where (You)'re WoL hugs, or kisses, or gropes or bends Alisaie over a table.
Become ungovernable.
remember that time a shtolafag wrote a novel on why she is not a plank in terms of personality?
shtolafags are mentally ill
https://files.catbox.moe/45epr6.png
He actually made some good points early on but the entire second half of that text is just pure headcanon shit.
I remember how you were demanding Y'shtolafags tell you what's so good about the character and once someone actually did you spent 2 months raging about it and screaming you didn't read it but somehow knew it was fake.
>you
Everyone. One. Person.
IM XIVING OUT BOIIIIII
Well the alternative is that more than one person is holding a grudge about internet arguments from half a year ago and I'd like to think she doesn't live in your head rent free that hard.
Obviously, I was wrong.
Everybody one person and more than one person is talking to you are fucking hilarious things to whip out when their stance is completely retarded
>there's no way multiple people are laughing at me
Laughing at you is not the same as "raging about it".
bruh you lose any conversation where you're just laughing at somebody the moment you're trawling archives and all of them are samey "y'shtolafags are mentally ill" posts
>if you expose me with a 5 second archive search you are obsessed and lose!
Y'shtola sucks ass as a character, cry about it. Didn't even get her own sacrifice scene in EW, Urianger had to help her out.
what are you exposing, anon
Making an entire blogpost about how Y'shtola is supposedly a great character with lots of development and then filling half of said blogpost with headcanon bullshit, then accusing people that call you out of being "obsessed".
>character analysis
we are reaching radioactive levels of "i don't like it so it doesn't count" lol
>I like it so it does count
>my first year-level analysis
You'd get an F for that, since half of it is fanfiction.
>I exposed there's a huge amount of seethe for a character analysis YOU LOSE
What?
The cat is just a mary sue coomer bait with less development than goku
No because I ain't reading all that shit. Really if we had options I probably wouldn't put Y'shtola in the top 5. Maybe 6, but really she's just the last left.
Venat for me, though you had to expect this response to be one of the first.
Isn't it a marvelous thing to discover the one person that still even conserves a screencap and link to a text you wrote months ago is the anon seething most about it, and he's STILL accusing random people of being you?
>we rule this game you chudderinos (that's why it's currently in the worst state it has ever been)
that's every videogame
>(that's why it's currently in the worst state it has ever been)
It's currently in the worst state it has ever been because the new lead writer is a fucking hack
Lead writer has nothing to do with everything being simplified because women brains can't handle complexity.
If you're playing a jRPG you might as well become a woman as well because they are the only ones that play gay shit like that
They don't play them, they ruin them.
Tales? Ruined by women.
Fire Emblem? Ruined by women.
Final Fantasy? Ruined by women.
There hasn't been a single good jrpg since the ps2.
Alright fellow waifufags, YOU get to pick one previous female story character to join your WoL on journeys. This character is there for you, they want to travel with you, they want to help you out and are willing to pick up a weapon for you at a moments notice.
Who do you pick? I pick Sadu or Fordola.
Ryne, don't even need to think about it. Sadu and Fordola are sexy but Sadu is a one-dimensional character and Fordola is arguably the worst character in the entire game due to her circumstances.
Fordola is my wife
If the current story and the character's status in the contemporary canon lore does not matter here? Venat, easily.
Matoya.
Krile will come with me. I will wear a backpack she can ride around in like Kazooie and she will pop out to bully people when necessary.
Will she imply she likes rough sex like Kazooie too?
Naturally
No, but she will help me demonstrate it instead.
I realized a while ago while wanting to take screenshots with npcs that I don't particularly care about any beside maybe Yugiri and even then now I tire of her.
iktf
99% of my screenshots are with Venat.
My wife Krile
I don't really care. I just think there needs to be more adult women in the scions. At this point it's down to Y'shtola, femlalas and a kid. Unfortunately it appears we're probably about to get a new one and it's a god damned furry.
Hilda
>last time we saw her in was in sb
haha
Omega. I'm sick of his autistic robot bullshit, needs adventuring correction.
I thought judging by the last thread Ganker is a potato fucker board
Ganker does fuck potatos
vehement potato haters just samefag a lot
Fucking off pedofell.
Lalas are just a loud minority of annoying coons, like femroes are.
>post pictures
>he's going on a spree accusing multiple different anons of being one angry person now
this is amazing who knew shtolafags were emotionally volatile
If I had know 5 months after my first year-level analysis there'd still be people seething about it and bringing it up I'd have made it longer.
somebody holding a grudge against a post for months to years because there's no easy way to dismiss it without crying "mental illness" like baby's first /misc/ post is why i come to Ganker
>cries about /misc/ out of nowhere
The mask slips.
oh come off it you fucking idiot if mentioning /misc/ at all is enough to offend your delicate virgin flower sensibilities then you shouldn't be bawling anybody else can't take the heat
>starts bawling and thinking that everyone is one person
The mask isn't even anywhere near the body anymore.
>and thinking that everyone is one person
what
Post some powerful hags
I made a thing for (You). You can frame it and post it 6 months from now as you insist it's everyone else who's mad!
This is why people make fun of you btw.
"you posted u mad material and it worked because i am mad, this is why people hate you"
>everyone one person
that person isn't even the original poster of the images I am and you are fuming
who cares, you're mad too
If you're getting mad at internet posts it's time to step away from the PC
about that "everybody one person" blurt out, sis
It's not that serious just take a break from the internet
Oh my god guys he opened the Runar folder.
Everybody duck, he's gonna hit us with some baits from 2019.
Then why did you respond? That was clearly not addressed to you and yet you felt attacked. And now you just changed the way you type. Could it be you're regularly switching for some reason?
He's trying really badly to get "everybody one person" to take off as a catchphrase but it just makes him look like Urkel to be tbh.
Reminds me of another place that had some schizo spam Juan guy, but then mods finally took action and literally hundreds of doomfag posts were removed in a single thread. Mind you, he did this for almost every thread for 2.5 years and gaslit us about public opinion until cracks began to show. It wasnt until we finally had fucking enough cause now we had reason to believe that it was indeed the same person (absences at same time, inability to keep up with rapid posts against him) cause he was just straight up slinging shitposts enough and anonymously and actually managed to tank the series's reputation and discussion on the board to the point that now that we've returned, we've literally timecapsuled from 2020.
I'm just saying that schizos can actually harm discussion at least on Ganker through cheap tricks like this
you mean the guy who posts his laundry list every 5 minute when someone calls him a tard?
>guy complaining about samefagging is in fact an enormous samefag
many such cases
regardless of ther veracity here, samefags and shitposters do tend to point the finger a lot, yes
I am (very) eagerly awaiting to see how many months in a row are you gonna repost that now, yes.
i love that you had the big tiddy edit in there
(I actually don't have the normal screenshot)
Still funny though.
I think I'd like Alisae a lot more if they gave her a less ugly hairstyle
Does Y’shtola like head pats and scritches
Almost certainly but she won't ever admit to such a thing. Scratch her ass like a housecat.
Probably, but she'd break the WoL in half if they tried it in public.
I love hags.
I usually don't like being a fencesitter but both Y'shtolafags and anti-Y'shtolafags have posted nothing but garbage so far.
She fucks shotas
God Y'shtola's lips are so lucious I literally want to plunge my lalafellin dick into her mouth to feel their texture peeling it open and exoeriencing true velvet pleasure. Garuda too, I want my dick colored green by the end of it
"He is a fanboy" is the new "they were roommates/cousins/great friends"
So a loser stuck in the friend zone?
>cousins
What the fuck anon?
It's a reference to the dubbed version of Sailormoon turning a pair of lovers into cousins while keeping all the lesbian subtext
>What the fuck anon?
You have to be 18 to post here.
sailor moon was dubbed in the mid 90s
my point stands
It's only vague that Haurchefant wants you inside him in the English localization, it's mindbogglingly explicit in other languages. You aren't going to squeeze blood from a rock in regards to Alisaie or G'raha Tia wanting your cock, meanwhile.
Haurchefant was a great friend, and if I were a female WOL he'd have earned her.
Ok maybe not. Still, dude was swell and grand enough that I wouldnt even be mad if it is true that he wants WOL, male or female.
>dude was swell and grand enough that I wouldnt even be mad if it is true that he wants WOL, male or female.
1) He's WoLsexual and furiously attracted regardless of player gender
2) He's pretty explicit still in things that aren't the immediate MSQ, like the FATE about a shipment of chocobo-riding equipment to his camp (that does not have any chocobo stabled) or the Year of the Horse Heavensturn where he asks you to be his horse
tfw no thighlander gf to do blunderville with
I wish lalafell were real
You know what? Would. Don't care. Fuck yourself if you think I shouldn't. I would absolutely wreck that.
That's fucking nasty, dude.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/xAaWL9BxZzfher_T7SFh8Q/
Find me more materials if you want more lala webms
what is this thing on meteion's foot
some little chibification of her leg harness
My EB ring. I gave it to her and she happily accepted.
>Alpha&Omega travel around and show up at seasonal events
>Loporrits show up at seasonal events
>Misc story NPC's show up in seasonal events dressed up in costumes
>No blue bird shows up at seasonal events
wtf
I do think we will get a Meteion cameo at some point but it's a much bigger deal for her to appear than it is for those others so they are holding off for now
GPS tracker.
her whole ass crack hanging out dam
What's with all the steam? Did she shit herself?
I'm going to be genuinely upset if we don't get anything with Meteion in DT. Every fucking character in this game shows up at least twice, she's the only one right now that I actually do want to see again.
Imagine the smell
Venatbro here and I don't see why we have to keep shitting on our Y'shtolabrethren.
>the only actual, real romance in this game gets zero attention
>only 4 people attend her wedding
what the fuck was that?
More than my own eb ceremony
I remember that when the coof pandemic was starting I was invited to someone's EB ceremony, and then like the day before my dad tested positive for the coof, and the day of the EB ceremony I had to stay in bed all day because I felt like shit. At the very least I did send an apology via in-game mail
Is she 18ft tall? Can she shatter my pelvis without even trying and leave me in a crater?
Then I don't care.
This shit was adorable and I wish the wedding would've been way more grandiose.
>crafting
thats why, would love to see the cutscenes but I'm not going to craft shit.
Then gather. I did the botanist tool and it was easy, but boring. Apparently fishing is even easier.
god i wish she was with us still
Still mad that we missed out on a gunner job in the style of Merlwyb
To be honest all she did was skype call us like 3 times, ghost us for a full year and then we went back in time and interacted with her autistic past self for like 30 minutes. Then she nuked me and fucking super died. All of our "hydaelyn" feels comes from scion gaslighting and made up bullshit. We only spent a night with her at most.
>We didn't get to spend enough time with her
Whoa, anon. You won't find me disagreeing.
And despite it all, she's more memorable (for me) than a good chunk of the characters in the past several years. I like her more than Emet.
NPC marriage when?
Subs haven't dropped enough yet to resort to that kind of fan service.
Only Zenos is worthy of the WoL. Scions all suck
Urianger is the only good scion.
I want to fucking kill Zenos though? Not going to like Stormblood makes Garleans seem like scum of the Earth, Cid and Nero are cool but there is something inherent about Garlemald that needs it exterminated and burned off the face of the planet.
WoL is too much of an autist to have a normal romance. Only a fierce rivalry with Zenos sparks life and emotion from him
refer to the chart
>Aggressive
Lovely.
Consider that he can have the fightboner shit Zenos offers him in Venat.
Without all the "let's burn the world down and sup on the ashes that remain." shit.
He can't handle Venat.
thats actually pretty clever for lore implications
>Normal people think they can fuck this
She literally says she does not hold back.
Good way to get sundered.
SB was bad enough but then in EW they really strove to make them as untreatable as humanly possible.
>You want to deliver us supplies so we can survive but the killbots we no longer have control of are trying to kill you instead? NOOOOOO DON'T TOUCH THEM; JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE
in fairness: every single other garlean in the settlement calls that noble a fucking ingrate and an idiot
It just makes the RPR start questline seem odd
>discriminate against garleans? BAD
I would fucking agree if these fuckers didnt treat everyone like how people in FFXVI treated bearers
True. Too many female players in Western Servers make themselves overly ugly, I've seen Viera's who loom the stuff of nightmares, and Au Ras who deliberately age their characters up when they look best young and supple
I really despise westards who want femras to be taller or older, we already have 6 tall races
I love my mommy Nophica!
also who drew that Y'sh
What's with all the Venat waifufags here.
She's your mom dude.
And?
Not even Yoshi-P has a problem with that.
Pretty sure that just adds to the appeal for them. personally I don't see how Venat could be a romance for anyone. She is a good example of 'loving everyone means loving no one in particular'. Worthy of a goddess but not a suitable partner.
She has favorites.
She sees in Azem and in the WoL something of a kindred spirit, but it doesn't follow that her care for them runs deeper than anyone else. She is an aloof figure. Overflowing with affection for every living thing but just that and nothing more.
You don't call a kindred spirit "my little spark" and "Warrior of Light."
>my little spark
Does she ever call you that? Or is that just from that song which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics. It is addressing just any soul that came back to her after death.
No, but she does call you her "light of the future."
>which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics.
Anon....
>Or is that just from that song which is not directly addressing the WoL if you actually read the lyrics.
Bro it is so explicit she's talking to WoL in the first few bars of the lyrics that I can't even meme on you for this one.
Flow and Flow Together literally play when (You) are dueling her and when she has her last little chat with (You) personally.
anon.... your character is outright her favorite mortal
you're her LITTLE SPARK
Romance? She owes me 12.000 years of plap. This is also a good way to resolve the ancient sharding conundrum.
Basado.
GODDAMN
Reminder that there is a difference between "I enjoy this character" and "I want to cover every inch of this character's skin in my semen", and that there isn't necessarily an overlap between these two. Point in case: Lyse.
That's good and all but the real issue here is the people who fit into the description apparently find it completely impossible to understand that maybe someone DOES enjoy the character.
I'd say the real issue here is that some people think too much with their cock, so they suddenly like boring or even obnoxious characters for their """personality""".
Try looking past your bellybutton sometime.
Please don't tell me this is a "I can't fathom liking this character, so everyone who does is just a hapless coomer" type of approach.
Anon, we both know this thread is nothing but people who cannot fathom people liking what they don't like and lashing out.
I really hate when that happens. Plenty of characters I don't like, but there's so many people who get down on others for liking things they don't.
You can keep the strawman to yourself, I have no interest in your shitflinging contest about Y'shtola or anyone else.
That's why I asked, not why I stated.
My favorite character, I both love AND wanna fill with cum/cover every inch of their skin with my semen.
Both is also possible.
I'm a Shadowbabby and I was pretty surprised to learn how much people hate Lyse after playing through SB.
I thought she was fine, really naive and pretty dumb at times, but that's basically all she was known for in ARR. She grew to be less stupid, but still had the naive and idealistic side to her which I kind of liked. She also had some fun scenes like kicking the Namazu
Never got it either and I started in ARR, people really loved to pretend Yda was this amazing character Lyse ruined
>She grew to be less stupid
Give examples right now. One of her absolute worst moments happens in the patch content.
When people say "Lyse is awful", what they actually mean is "Lyse gets used in an awful way". It's a bit different but the intention behind the criticism still stands.
This is how I feel about most characters I particularly dislike. All except one.
Fordola. She's fucking indefensible after that story they released about her. When it turned out that she, in fact, was NOT justified in punishing her own people that hard and was actually shown kindness and understanding by someone who even fucking died for her. At that point it's not a matter of her being badly used, she's just awful herself from start to finish.
I genuinely believe that Fordola is the absolute worst non-trivial character in this game. I know that she's pretty and has a sexy VA and all that, but she's just awful and I was actively suffering every time the story went back to being about her in some way.
I could get behind her plot back in SB. Like, I could see what she was coming from. When she friendly fired and killed all her friends, she was fucking pushing it then, at that point she went beyond sympathy, but you know, let's see how it keeps going, and it seemed she had a fairly decent redemption story going on after all. But then they released that story and I just went "Ok no, fuck this cunt, should have fucking died". The fact Lyse ended up sparing and defending the woman who got her sister killed without knowing it and is seemingly never going to find out also feels shitty.
Even before it was made abundantly clear that she is a psychopath with no real remorse I already hated her because of the "disappears with smoke bombs" shit. That's not on the character, true, but the association already made me hate her.
Don't forget that Lyse and Raubahn are effectively despots by deciding to spare her without the consent of any other governing body and against the explicit wishes of their people. I'll never forget the scene where Raubahn is lying in the faces of the widows and orphans, saying "justice will be done but right now we need her". Well Raubahn, WHEN will justice be done? Who are you to decide the manner of her punishment?
Ala Mhigo will be the same tyrannical shithole in a few decades like it was before, guaranteed.
>without the consent of any other governing body
lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs, didn't read the rest. decent bait
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
So the people should decide, right? And the people decided they wanted to kill her.
I don't think he's going to argue with you about this despot-kun
>lol there is no other governing body with jurisdiction over ala mhigan affairs
Yes, that's what makes them despots. Raubahn and Lyse decide on their own, against the explicit wishes of the population, what to do with this war criminal.
>didn't read the rest
Maybe you should do this next time before typing out dumb shit, you retarded fucking favela monkey.
Nice samefagging.
God damn, you're mad, dude. Namaste
>get called out for being too stupid to read
>u-ur mad!
>I know that she's pretty
Honestly I find her one of the least attractive women in the game.
She should have died
People bitch about Lyse and the Tempered Sneks but this shit scene was all to keep Fordola alive.
It's either Fordola, Lyse or Hien.
Hien might be a dumbass but he's definitely not the worst.
He's offensively stupid and never actually earns the veneration he receives from his people.
Hien is a dumbass and the veneration his subjects show him ingame is completely unearned, but I wouldn't call him at all one of the worst characters in the game because he hardly actually alters story events, he just kinda fucks around with a few ideas that amount to nothing.
A character can be dogshit without being highly relevant to the actual plot.
Hien is too gigabrained for you plebs. The entire tsuyu arc is masterfully played. You think he really “accidentally” left her door wide open whoops yugiri also let her wander off on “accident”
Dude masterfully played all factions into getting what he wanted. Freed doman POWs, bolstered ties with the non retarded garleans, got Yotsuyu and Asahi killed, all without looking like an asshole to his friend gosetsu. He’s a psychopath and you’re just getting played.
I know you're just joking but the latest role quest involving him actually exposes his stupidity for in-game characters for once.
It’s a ruse, never trust a chinaman as devious as Hien
I don’t have any strong feelings about her anyway even though I started in 2.0.
Probably because every single time she opens her mouth in SB it's some of the dumbest shit you could possibly find in this game.
It can be both, I honestly would do both for tataru and nanamo which is strange because I HATE lalafell players.
Lalafell players compared to lalafell npcs are like real women compared to anime girls.
can't wait for the HD update
I feel like that toward femelezens, I like the npcs but the players make lala cultists and miqote and femra coomers look sane.
But I like real women, they are soft and huggable. Player lalafell should get punted
none of them compare to this little kinky shit
This bitch should have been giving the wol infinite wet dreams as a prank every night but she's too busy being genderless and ruling a fairy kingdom made of autistic children ghosts. Why does the WoL always lure sex fiends that can't sex the shit out of him for one reason or another? And why most of them are redheads?
>Play shadowbringers
>Now I just want a scottish girl to be mad at me
I am suffering
May I recommend Hi Fi Rush to you?
its too bad. we have a local american brat ready for correction
>Genderless
Not after I modded them naked
I'm fine with all of those attacking me so long as they start with the eyes.
hang all lala players
Luv me Hyur
Luv me Miqo
Luv me Lala
Luv me Elezen
Luv me Roe
'Ate Au Ra
'Ate Viera
'Ate Hroth
simple as
Does anyone actually single pull these days? I swear I haven't seen it happen since Stormblood.
New players, I guess?
I sometimes have to slow down if it's particularly inept sprouts.
I can't even remember the last time I did a dungeon with players. I have all jobs leveled to 90, I don't do dungeon roulettes and I do first time dungeons with trusts. It might have been in 6.1 or something
>I have all jobs leveled to 90
At which point did you consider just shooting yourself instead of continuing?
its still pretty standard before 50
I can't tell if this comic is saying that the content drought is a problem or that it's not real
>democracies
cringe
That's not what anyone was saying. Or are you implying that a lynchmob is "democratic"?
man I hate Alisaie's endwalker outfit. Please change that shit.
I love it.
Except she shouldn't be wearing a one-piece thing but short-shorts.
She should wear a short skirt and have her panties exposed at all time
Also good, but imagine she just wears skin-tight shorts that make her thighs bulge and cover only half of her ass.
These but with Alphinaud too.
Alphinaud watches as the WoL "takes care" of his mother.
Alphinaud dresses up as Alisaie and seduces the WoL.
This part is the best part.
Perfection.
>cameltoe
>not diaper poof
Go back to talking about Y'shtola's char-burnt skin instead of entertaining the samenagger seething about Fordola and Ala Mhigo's tax policy
>everyone is one person
Every time.
>nooo don't call out my waifu nooo
Dilate.
This skinny bitch in a choker is not a MILF. She doesn't even look 18.
What the fuck is wrong with you XIVtards? You'd think you would know what a milf looks like with all the hentai you consume.
>She doesn't even look 18.
Funniest part about this post is that Y'shtola would probably be uncontrollably smiling for the rest of the month if she got to read it.
if you saw the kinds of milfs i want to have sex with you'd hurl
>She doesn't even look 18.
Calm the fuck down Y'shtola.
I love and hate Monk. Its got almost no moves in significant periods of level progression, yet when you do get a move its some crazy shit
Monk in the level 50s is some serious arid shit. 60s feels the same with only 2 riddle moves in the course of its progression, but is redeemed through beast chakra.
Leveling MNK was one of the most miserable experiences I've had in this game. Only BRD and PLD came close.
It is really miserable because it rarely changes. Like it looks fun but goddamn it doesnt even have based hamon quests to redeem it
If Dawntrail doesn't throw straight men a bone I'm unsubbing.
Swimsuit scene incoming.
And by that I mean Thancred and Urianger in swimsuits. Y'shtola is at the library and Alisaie is eating wierd shit with G'raha.
Alisaie wouldn't be there because she'd need to be given a female body rather than using Alphinaud's. Y'shtola wouldn't be there because that'd upset the female playerbase. You'd better believe G'raha and Estinien will be there though. Erenville too probably.
And now my inner architect imagines Alisaie snacking so much over the expansion she develops a nice little belly for squishing.
>special cutscene where you have a dialogue choice to spend a night with Y’shtola and/or Alisaie
>if you took the option then 7.3 patch has them show you a positive pregnancy test.vxxdw
>FFXIV.
>Keeping track of what goes on in skippable cutscenes.
Hah, good luck, unless it's an actual splitting questline like Krile/Ejika or Anogg/Konogg.
Also NICE CAPTCHA DIPSHIT.
I got a ban over at /vg/ because I posted an ingame chatlog in /xivg/. I even removed the names and all that beforehand so I have no idea what triggered the fucking janny.
You can get banned from /xivg/ for interfering with the circlejerk there nowadays. There's a reason why all discussion (even if it's just coomers) happens here on Ganker instead.
beeg grin!
Don’t know how people unironically hate Fordola. Especially if they do
>muh friendly fire
That’s literally why she’s admirable. She was given an order, she fulfilled it. But she showed personal responsibly and never deflected or blamed her condition. She took credit for giving the order. If she was mopey or weepy and deflected to but I was just following le orders that is not just detestable but also trite, boring shit.
*uses a smoke bomb for the fourth time in a row to escape*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
*only lives due to the whims of a retard*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
*becomes an ally*
Heh, you're all retarded scum.
What a great character.
>Don’t know how people unironically hate Fordola.
Because we're not borderline illiterate.
Easy. The whole game she's presented as someone who started with good intentions, but because her father was killed and no other ala mhigan ever showed her understanding and compassion she went off the deep end.
Then it turns out that she actually has close personal childhood friends that were always there for her, and she kills them because "just following orders". Then it also turns out her mother begged her to not enlist and become a garlean soldier. Then it turns out that FUCKING YDA, A RESISTANCE SOLDIER, ACTUALLY SHOWED HER UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION AND EVEN ACTUALLY SACRIFICED HERSELF FOR HER AND SHE FULLY KNEW.
So in short, she was just scum. Easily manipulated scum that Zenos got to betray all her principles and go against everyone who ever loved her with merely a couple centences.
But she’s not. She’s not presented as someone with good intentions. She wants to survive.
The whole initial point of Fordola enlisting was that she wanted the garleans to start considering ala mhigans as equals, so she decided to work twice as hard and be thrice as obedient as the actual garleans. She completely lost track of it in favor of "But what if I just fucking torture my own people so hard they start calling me the Butcher".
She killed hundreds of innocents and never once showed even an ounce of regret. Meanwhile she gets spared because Lyse discovers her lesbian side or something and she repays that immense kindness with acting like an entitled brat.
>innocents
Actually, they were Ala Mihgans
Fair enough, but that puts her on the list too.
>mhiggers
>innocent
Regardless, she does show regret she just takes actual responsibility when it was easy to deflect with muh situation I had to le do it.
>she does show regret
No she doesn't.
>it was easy to deflect with muh situation I had to le do it
This is what she does though.
No, she does the exact opposite. She admits she personally chose to follow orders, or in the case of friendly fire, give it. She never once says I was just following le orders
NTA but doesn't that make her even worse?
No, it’s like Zeno’s “would it matter if I had a good reason”. You do bad things, you take responsibility for them. You do not deflect with weepy, self-centered bullshit. Nobody wants to hear when a criminal says they “had” to commit crime. It’s always more admirable when someone tells the truth.
Well yeah but it makes her an awful character in the way she's being presented and used in the story then. Like you're obviously supposed to sympathize with her and feel like Lyse is doing "the right thing" by granting her a sort of mercy and all that, when actually she should've just been hanged by the lynchmob on day 1.
In reality he’s she probably would have been hanged but that’s the thing, she basically agrees with that sentiment. That’s why she’s admirable. A coward who would deflect with muh orders I had to le do it I just wanted to succeed would not admit they deserve to be hanged. In game, she probably would have been killed if not for the sharingan making her useful, regardless of what lyse thought. It was a joint decision with Raubahn
What you're describing is something that happens on accident and is clearly not the intention of the writers or what you're supposed to take away from the character. You can't just ignore every other part of the storytelling in that regard.
Fordola is written to be admirable. She also has more of an eastern philosophy about her (they don’t give a fuck about war crimes). It’s why they keep her alive anon. It is intended. Her character in general exists as a foil to lyse, another young woman on the other side of the conflict going through her own personal growth.
Neither Lyse nor Fordola grow in any way whatsoever though. The story pretends that they do, but they really don't. Lyse is just as naive and stupid at the end of SB as she is at the beginning of it. Fordola is just as selfish and ruthless at the end of SB as she is at the beginning of it.
>Fordola is written to be admirable.
I thought I understood what you were getting at but now I'm concerned.
>Sure, I killed hundreds of people, tortured a lot of them, enforced an oppressive and purposefully mismanaged regime and am a war criminal.
>But I did it for myself, not for them.
I liked her as antagonist. She should have died.
>the virgin “butcher”
Kills own citizens so conquering nation recognizes her
>the CHAD IVth legion
Kills citizens, bombs own nation(s), turns own citizens and POWs into magitek/lucavi abominations, sends legions of native wildlife for the slaughter, tempers own citizens with primal magicks, awakens allagan relics to crater their native countries for the sake of GIGA CHAD off screen death man to make a glorious new nation
Bozja's storyline really is something else.
It’s pretty funny how schizo matsuno writing is, in the field notes the IVth are supposed to be these morally grey idealists but then you fight the same people and they are shouting about stomping everyone into meet slop and gleefully laughing about dabog being tortured and turned into a robot to killed for the 166421123th time (seriously why does this nigga die like 100 times in bozja)
Fordola is a bitch.
Xenosys is a bit of a homosexual but his chat is genuinely funny as fuck.
i have some respect for him now that he isn't being a doomy doom doomer
What? He's one of the few who didn't fall for the grift train and genuinely defends not only the game but also the community. He earned some of my respect by watching the whole Wesker video and pretty much agreeing with every single thing in there.
Yes, that's what I mean.
My bad, I misread that "isn't".
Oh, no.
I hate ecelebs, but I begrudgingly respect him for keeping a cool head and not falling for the easy "le ziv ded doom r here" clickbait paradigm.
I'm genuinely surprised how he doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about moderating his chat, so there's that at least.
I wish that I had bottomless balls so that I could fap to Y'shtola all day every day
Why is it so fucking hard to find on-model Shtola art.
Because not even the game keeps consistent looks for the scions.
Yshtola's skin color changes per expansion, Thancreds face and eyes change per patch.
Because fat cat tats are nice.
no
Why is Yshtola a viera?