okay i can understand electrode and hypno despite liking them but literally how is vileplume that low, he's at least okay
and parasect, weezing, and porygon are top tier
Vileplume is fricking lame
>lickitung
frick off
Lickingtung fricking sucks you contrarian
does the list not include non-final stages?
also holy shit this taste
Waste of time since who actually uses a preevolved form
>Waste of time since who actually uses a preevolved form
I mean I guess I don't know by what criteria you're rating them, but if it's by their design or something, then there's absolutely reason to include preevolved forms.
I would put Persian, Golem, and Dragonite a little bit lower than their preevolutions in terms of design, for example.
okay i can understand electrode and hypno despite liking them but literally how is vileplume that low, he's at least okay
and parasect, weezing, and porygon are top tier
what's wrong with chansey? it's not a favorite of mine by any means, but I don't really see any problem with it that would place it just barely above jynx.
Genuinely terrible tastes. Not even in a joking "haha his tastes are different than mine" way but in a "this person has zero clue what makes a design unique or notable and shouldn't be allowed within five miles of a design studio".
that's because design taste is highly subjective stuff and concrete specifics are difficult to point to, and with a list of so many things, pointing to a few specifics doesn't feel like it would prove the overall order of the list wrong, so it seems like wasted effort.
very generally, I would say the list feels agonizingly normie, and seems to throw most things that aren't conventionally "badass" looking at the bottom, regardless of how competent, interesting, unique, or full of character the design may be.
>I didn't know Slowbro and Rapidash and even Lapras was badass
see: "MOST THINGS that aren't conventionally "badass" looking"
>Also your entire argument as to why his list is bad is that "popular bad!"
no it isn't. there were clearly two points made whether you like or agree with them, and I don't care near as much about the normie one. throwing solid designs under the bus seemingly because they aren't "badass" enough is definitely the bigger issue.
this on the other hand is quite based, I respect your logic and mainly agree even though it doesn't entirely align with my preferences.
eg. I think the eevolutions could be higher, and I love porygon. They are both thematically very pokemon-ish as well, playing into the tech and mutation themes
He designed them as monsters that you would also want as pets.
It's honestly a wonder why they left this artstyle behind, it's basically THE reason for Pokemania
truely attrocious taste
How do you figure?
Gen 1 is literally the reason Pokemon exists
>Magmar below Electabuzz
>Kingler below Slowbro
>Moltres below Zapdos
>Wigglytuff below Clefable
Coompetetive brain
All of those are still correct ignoring competitive, though.
>Gen 1 isn't that bad
It's the most important generation of the series you troglodyte.
And the only bad pokemon are jynx and maybe seaking
Machamp is S tier. It's the embodiment and most representative of the Fighting type
geniunely bad list
>lickitung
frick off
>Vileplue and my boy Lickitung that low while trash like Dragonite is that high
Vileplume is fricking lame
Lickingtung fricking sucks you contrarian
Waste of time since who actually uses a preevolved form
Wtf you are right. Put it in excellent.
>Waste of time since who actually uses a preevolved form
I mean I guess I don't know by what criteria you're rating them, but if it's by their design or something, then there's absolutely reason to include preevolved forms.
I would put Persian, Golem, and Dragonite a little bit lower than their preevolutions in terms of design, for example.
okay i can understand electrode and hypno despite liking them but literally how is vileplume that low, he's at least okay
and parasect, weezing, and porygon are top tier
All of gen 1 is good-excellent.
does the list not include non-final stages?
also holy shit this taste
am i blind, or is dodrio missing?
Literally the only gen worth a shit
nobody should share a tier with mr mime and jynx regardless of personal taste
>vileplume
>bad
unironically kys
Where did all these vileplume gays come from? It was completely mogged in its own gen by Victrebell and Venusaur
>Victrebel
only people who like it are vore weirdos
>you have to have some weird fetish to appreciate a cool pitcher plant monster
god, frick off
Did you even grow up watching the original anime?
get the frick out of here kid.
victreebel is a pitcher plant monster, but not a cool pitcher plant monster.
wrong.
Nah it's awesome, if there's an issue is that Weepinbell is unnecessary
i prefer venusaur sure but rafflesias are awesome even if they're not on someone's back
Venus ain't a rafflesia, they have no stalk (let alone a trunk) nor leaves
And the petals are thick and solid, not flowie
Venusaur plant is based on some extinct plant
Only tangela is bad. All others are top tier, mime and jynx included
>Pirmeape(my best bro) Beedrill, and Magmar
>On the okay tier
>Zappos
>Excellent
>artículo bad
Trash taste Zapdos is one of the worst bird designs, the winns look so bad so plastic
>almost all of my favorites are in the lower half of okay and bad
awesome.
at least literally no one seems to agree with this.
How come the genwunner list gets all the replies but the nugens are completely quiet?
Here i fix'd it for you
>still no dodrio
Dodrio would be in A
Shit, boring ass normalgay taste.
Eh
Pretty typical taste but better then OP
Muk and Kabutops deserve better.
Boring.
Where do I find this specific tiermaker thing?
I used this one.
https://tiermaker.com/create/pokemon-001-251-old-art-gen-1-and-2-1179365
Imagine a Kanto remake with only these mons(no crossgen crap) and a Pokken-like battle system
>Articuno
>OKAY
Frick you.
here is some better taste for the thread
what's wrong with chansey? it's not a favorite of mine by any means, but I don't really see any problem with it that would place it just barely above jynx.
it's just bland, not bad
the birds have never been good looking
>putting pidgeott that high with things like weezing, exeggutor, and vileplume that low
Ridiculous
Was there during pokemania. I never liked Jynx or Mime.
electrode is peak you sack of shit
>Exeggutor, Mr. Mime, Vileplume
>remotely close to bad
turbocringe
even the boring ones are still timeless and iconic
Genuinely terrible tastes. Not even in a joking "haha his tastes are different than mine" way but in a "this person has zero clue what makes a design unique or notable and shouldn't be allowed within five miles of a design studio".
I think it's refreshingly exceptional taste after seeing OP.
Fair enough, I shouldn't be calling out that guy when trash like OP's list are floating around.
Golem and Machamp are iconic, kys
>exeggutor and vileplume in bad
>fearow and kangaskhan in good
end yourself
>Lickitung, vileplume, wigglytuff in bad
Perish
>zapdos in the top
Ew
Exeggutor is the king of gen 1 you piece of shit
please enjoy my shit taste
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY cares about your opinions on nfes.
Don't care, you're getting my opinions anyway.
positions within the tiers themselves don't really matter. Also even the lower tiers I think are pretty good generally
>poliwhirl above poliwrath
>lickitung in s
>grimer/koffing line in s/a
ok, based, but
>charmeleon and ivysaur above venusaur and charizard (in b)
i want your letter of resignation on my desk by the afternoon
but Ivysaur and Charmeleon just have got the 'tude man. You gotta respect the 'tude.
>venusaur and charizard don't have 'tude
you have the 'tism
No one has been able to point out why OPs list is trash outside my favorite shitmon is too low.
>muh shitmon buzzword
kys
and make it snappy
shitmon lover detected
that's because design taste is highly subjective stuff and concrete specifics are difficult to point to, and with a list of so many things, pointing to a few specifics doesn't feel like it would prove the overall order of the list wrong, so it seems like wasted effort.
very generally, I would say the list feels agonizingly normie, and seems to throw most things that aren't conventionally "badass" looking at the bottom, regardless of how competent, interesting, unique, or full of character the design may be.
anyway, frick off OP.
I didn't know Slowbro and Rapidash and even Lapras was badass. Also your entire argument as to why his list is bad is that "popular bad!"
>I didn't know Slowbro and Rapidash and even Lapras was badass
see: "MOST THINGS that aren't conventionally "badass" looking"
>Also your entire argument as to why his list is bad is that "popular bad!"
no it isn't. there were clearly two points made whether you like or agree with them, and I don't care near as much about the normie one. throwing solid designs under the bus seemingly because they aren't "badass" enough is definitely the bigger issue.
anyway, frick off OP.
Why do you assume I am OP? Just because I have similar tastes doesn't mean I am OP.
oh, so you just have similarly embarrassing taste and got upset that people here were mocking it.
that's only marginally better, but okay.
post your list
already did
feel free to shit on it
It's just boring as frick with starters, eeveelutions, and legenfaries being high up. Liking some shillmon is fine but they only really like shillmon.
There are no bad gen 1 pokemon
>vileplume
>wigglytuff
>in bad
promptly die
Gen 1 is the most consistently good gen and has the best artstyle by FAR
Every other pokemon should be redesigned in the Gen 1 style.
Someone post a link to this tier list right now. I'm to lazy to google it.
top 2 are Pokemon that define what Pokemon always was, the top 1 being the most straight to the point design philosophy.
3rd are just kind of there/basic animal/"okay" but don't really strike out to you as a pocket MONSTER
the rest are obvious.
this on the other hand is quite based, I respect your logic and mainly agree even though it doesn't entirely align with my preferences.
eg. I think the eevolutions could be higher, and I love porygon. They are both thematically very pokemon-ish as well, playing into the tech and mutation themes
bad taste sir
and I am usually generous to people on this board
Go ahead, insult my shit taste.
I'm surprised by Golem, Venomoth and Jynx but not offended
overall good taste
this took forever but finally you guys can call me a homosexual again
>Hypno
>Vileplume
>Exeggutor
>bad
is it really so hard to start a thread without baiting anymore
Even the worst Kanto mons are merely boring or done better in other gens
why are Koffing and Weezing that low though?
>Machamp in “okay”
Go frick yourself
Exeggutor and Vileplume are not trash unlike this tier list
Mega doodoo taste
Why was early Sugimori art so full of SOVL?
There;s a beautiful grittiness to these mons
He designed them as monsters that you would also want as pets.
It's honestly a wonder why they left this artstyle behind, it's basically THE reason for Pokemania
Sandshrew and Sandslash deserve the highest tier
Have you ever actually tried playing with a Jynx? You might be pleasantly surprised.
I've seriously never understood the hatred for Jynx, even with the purple skin downgrade.