its so over for me, i have no fucking clue where the rest of these are since i dont use the interactive maps, theyre probably somewhere super obvious and i simply missed them
the range is about 50-58, actually, you get a slightly randomized number of sigils from certain types of chest (2-3), so that can fluctuate the amount you have total.
Because of the size limits you need to compromise with shorter duration and/or smaller resolution. The longer the clip the smaller the resolution needs to be to not be a complete mess. High movement also increases the size so in some cases you can't do anything about it.
i had a gfriend like this, for whatever reason she literally wouldn't understand what an antagonist is and always got upset when i said my favorite character from ___ movie was the 'bad guy'
If you wanna fix it, look for ShaderRegexCharOutline in the mods ini file and comment out them one by one, since you can do it on the fly it's relatively fast and easy to find exactly which one is broken and disable it. Nearly no modder seems to bother updating their mods for 4.0 to fix it themselves nor tell anyone how to do it.
>(much) stronger shield
Not really, Layla's is stronger but not by a lot. >100% uptime
Diona covers this by using Sacrificial Bow, no reason to use anything else on her. >faster cast
Marginally, Diona appears much slower because her projectiles have to hit something before the shield appears but the skill itself goes off fast and even if she gets hit midcast it will go off. >better damage
Debatable. Layla's damage is heavily reliant on artifacts and weapon to be even noteworthy, meanwhile Diona can rock Noblesse, give 200 EM and 10% movement speed. >procs tenacity extremely well
Tenacity vs. Noblesse is a whatever discussion as they both offer the same type of buff.
In the end you should always just use whoever you like the most but Layla vs. Diona is more complicated than just thinking Layla powercrept Diona because she didn't. Diona also heals which is a nice backup, especially for that one abyss floor a while back with Abyss Herald+rifthounds.
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Anywhere with some mekas in the distance you can look at since the bug seems to only apply to them.
Alright, I think I found it. Thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for other glitches just in case.
EM is important for all non Mono elemental team/Physical teams.
>Vape/Melt
100 minimum >Aggravate
120+, more is good but don't neglect your attack %/crit stats >Spread
300+ >Hyperbloom/Burgeon/Nilou Bloom Triggers
700+
EM effectively is like having extra attack stat but scales differently, it adds damage based on your EM as flat damage to your attack before your crit stats are applied.
this is important as EM is one of the easiest stats to get from team buffs, Nahida can provide up to 250em, Sucrose offers a decent amount, Diona offers 200em i think, ect.
i tend to run my aggravate driver and electro sub-dps at 200-300em and focus on typical damage stats after this.
i tend to use:
Keqing, Nahida, Fischl, Zhongli
you can get more damage by using an Anemo character instead of Zhongli due to VV res shred but i value the comfort.
So If I did a Nahida Raiden Fish Zhong team I would only need EM on Fishs' artifacts since raiden would be my on field and she would benefit from Nahidas em?
Thank you, anon. Thanks to you, I realized I was handling the last parts wrong. I just focused on the big mech and the other enemies just died on their own anyways. That was so much easier.
Both are great. The 200 EM Diona gives is still very valuable in reaction teams. She also provides front-loaded energy, and Sac Bow works great on her. I use her on my Yoi team to 36* Abyss every time. Haven't found a need for my C6 Layla though, but want to.
The thing is that most of the teams you'll be using Diona/Layla in to begin with aren't very energy hungry so the frontloaded battery potential isn't all that relevant. The 200 EM is nice but that's only at C6, and Layla at C6 has plenty of perks of her own. Glad you found a use for her though. I just want a beefy shield and Layla has that in spades.
>(much) stronger shield
Not really, Layla's is stronger but not by a lot. >100% uptime
Diona covers this by using Sacrificial Bow, no reason to use anything else on her. >faster cast
Marginally, Diona appears much slower because her projectiles have to hit something before the shield appears but the skill itself goes off fast and even if she gets hit midcast it will go off. >better damage
Debatable. Layla's damage is heavily reliant on artifacts and weapon to be even noteworthy, meanwhile Diona can rock Noblesse, give 200 EM and 10% movement speed. >procs tenacity extremely well
Tenacity vs. Noblesse is a whatever discussion as they both offer the same type of buff.
In the end you should always just use whoever you like the most but Layla vs. Diona is more complicated than just thinking Layla powercrept Diona because she didn't. Diona also heals which is a nice backup, especially for that one abyss floor a while back with Abyss Herald+rifthounds.
Interesting. What's a good place to see the bugged effect in-game so I can start making adjustments?
Anywhere with some mekas in the distance you can look at since the bug seems to only apply to them.
>Layla's is stronger but not by a lot.
Layla literally has the second strongest shield in the game and is comparable to Zhongli's to the point of replacing him to use him in a different team. It is absolutely a lot.
there's a problem with layla though. there isn't a budget 4* HP% sword, and that's not changing any time soon, a 4* HP% gacha sword is coming soon but not a craftable or event one. once she gets that she will be across the board better than diona, but until then diona's other utilities outweight layla outside of maybe freeze comp.
yeah but I never said anything about using diona in a freeze comp in general, I said that's one of the only places layla is better than her without an HP% sword.
That's no problem at all because she doesn't need the HP sword at all. Her shield still outranks Diona's without it. It just doesn't break and she proces Fav Sword so easily that she makes a great battery, too. Especially at C6. I find plenty of opportunities to bring out Layla in many teams but I never need Diona. Layla is even fun to use with Hu Tao and Eula.
Diona talent Lv9 shield, 30k hp (easy to get, no hp weapon): 5069, C2: 5829
Layla Lv9 shield, 30k hp (again, easy to get with no hp weapon): 7635, C1: 9162
Zhongli Lv9, 40k HP (easy to get, even 50k if using the 3* spear for HP): 11031, also gives 20% all elemental shred but that's different.
Kirara, lv9, 30k hp: 11294, can stack another ~2k through her passive 3 times.
Fuck you are right, I had completely forgotten Diona had two versions of her shield. Did think 5k seemed rather low considering I Never have issues with it in abyss. I'm actually not sure how exactly it counts that because if it's a flat bonus like Layla and Diona's own constellation bonus, that would put her held shield value at 10201, so stronger than Layla.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That can't be right because I've tested the hold version side by side with Layla's shield and it's definitely weaker.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even if we boost the base absorption multipliers by 75% instead of putting it as a separate multiplier similar to her C2, C2 Diona final numbers at 30k hp still ends up 10200 for me.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well something must be wrong somewhere because that would make Diona neck and neck with Zhongli, which obviously isn't true in practice.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, read Zhongli's kit. He has a passive that gives 25% shield strength when it gets hit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Layla constantly procs 4pc Tenacity just by having her shield's projectiles exist or having her burst up, so she gets 30% more shield strength. That might have something to do with it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So I just tested my C6 Diona against my C3 Layla against Childe with the same artifacts, no HP weapon for Layla and Sac bow on Diona. Layla can take five shots and Diona can take four. Idk where your math is wrong but it’s wrong.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Layla has C1 giving more shield absorption. Does Diona have one ? Maybe that's the difference.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Diona’s C2 boosts damage absorption by 15 percent. I also made sure to take the shots early, since Layla’s shield gets stronger as it builds up more stars.
The difference in shield absorption between C6 Layla and C6 Diona is much greater than the difference between C6 Layla and C0 Zhongli. Layla's C1 gives a flat 20 percent bonus to her shield absorption as well as a passive that boosts its strength over time. Also if you're lucky like me you can use Key of Khajnisut on Layla to make her that much tankier. She can protect you against floor 12 consecrated beasts. Diona can't do that.
Diona has ALWAYS been dogshit. People, once again, took way too long to realise.
Both are great. The 200 EM Diona gives is still very valuable in reaction teams. She also provides front-loaded energy, and Sac Bow works great on her. I use her on my Yoi team to 36* Abyss every time. Haven't found a need for my C6 Layla though, but want to.
In what reaction team will you run Diona as your Shielder? Hu Tao won't benefit from it since she wants to be low HP. Reverse melt teams do not use Diona. Melt/Vape, you're better off using an Anemo unit in her slot, Bennett offers all the heals and buffing you need. Freeze doesn't care about EM.
Again, everyone is bringing her C6 when in reality, nobody fucking uses it. Edge case would be fridge but that's shit and cope dendro team.
>In what reaction team will you run Diona as your Shielder?
You can run her with aggrevate/spread teams because cryo wont interferee despite reacting with electro.
You can also run her with Yoimiya vape or overload teams.
Not really room for that in regards to Yoimiya. Anything using Yoimiya ideally also wants Yunjin so that's Yoimiya/Yelan/Yunjin already for a vape team, or Yoimiya/Fischl/Yunjin for overload (or Raiden if you want but Fischl is better for this). Diona is great for either team, Zhongli is a bit better because of the shred but Diona works really well as well.
>Aggravate
She doesn't procc Milelith enough like Layla does. Despite what people think, Aggravate still scales more from Atk/crits than EM. I guess you could run her with Noblesse at C6 and that's a nice boost. >Spread
Fair enough. They strictly scale crits and EM.
You should be using Noblesse on Diona regardless honestly, it's just the most consistent for her.
Well something must be wrong somewhere because that would make Diona neck and neck with Zhongli, which obviously isn't true in practice.
Zhongli has a geo shield which has innate absorption against all elements that I forgot to include, his shield value is like 50% more than I listed. Layla and Diona have 2.5x bonus against cryo and Kirara has that against dendro but no one ever bothers to count that, I should've included it for Zhongli though because geo applies against everything.
Optimally, you would want Zhongli for the Geo resonance. Diona's application during her ult can mess up Yoimiya's combos, making her melt the wrong hits.
I use Layla with Yoimiya for melt and it works great. Not sure what you're doing wrong. I find no rhyme or reason to use Diona there since Yoimiya already hits hard enough on her own. I don't have a Thundering Pulse, but with Shimenawa, R5 Rust and her talents at 9-9-9, she's doing just fine.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I mean you can use whoever you want, Diona's EM just offers more damage than Layla can offer unless you have an invested Layla with either Key or Jade Cutter, meanwhile Diona only needs Sac Bow, Noblesse and substats are literally irrelevant. If you are using Yoimiya vape/overload you are clearly focusing more on having fun anyway so just be yourself anon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You just seem desperate for people to not consider Layla an option over Diona when more and more people clearly find no need for her anymore. Her EM buff is inconsequential and her healing isn't even that great over any other option. You can use her if you want, but don't be upset others prefer Layla over her.
Diona is cuter and has utility with her noticeable EM buff and healing. She's essential in my Yoimiya team. Layla would not be able to replace her.
Diona's not even the cutest e-boi, let alone cuter than Layla.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I've not once said to not use Layla, nor am I upset if people are using her. The whole discussion started by one anon claiming Layla powercrept Diona when the truth is she didn't, nothing more, nothing less.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The problem I have with using Layla in my Yoimiya team is that I have the Key and the only way to get it to proc is by having Layla on-field long enough for/when her stars hit. The quickest way I've found was Layla skill, swap, any quick skill, then swap back to Layla and the stars start firing. The problem is that it cuts into the uptime of the shield so it runs out in the middle of Yoimiya's DPS phase. It also only gives 106 EM instead of 200.
>Aggravate
She doesn't procc Milelith enough like Layla does. Despite what people think, Aggravate still scales more from Atk/crits than EM. I guess you could run her with Noblesse at C6 and that's a nice boost. >Spread
Fair enough. They strictly scale crits and EM.
So it's been a week since I started my new account to play with Lumine because she's very cute and I love Yuuki Aoi.
I've been playing a lot, like 10 hours a day on average and I didn't even reach Inazuma yet. Here are the stats: >20 pulls on Noelle banner >80 pulls on limited banner >40 pulls on standard banner >Not F2P. I bought Welkin and Battle Pass >Adventure Rank 33 >4 characters level 60 with level 60 weapons, 2/4/4 talents and +12 purple artifacts >Mondstadt: 91% exploration, 13/22 quest completion >Liyue: 45% exploration, 29/52 quest completion >Dragonspine and Chasm not started
The game has a fuckton of content, and I even skipped some grinding by using about 500 stardusts on mats.
The progression was really smooth before Liyue, I had time to explore Mondstadt before reaching the required AR to play Liyue.
But then, around AR28-32, you just unlock too many features at the same time.
You unlock the first story quest, fishing, the card game, the teapot quest, the Shenhe interlude, the first two Dainsleif quests.
I feel like by the time I finish Dragonspine and Liyue, I'll be AR40. The required AR to progress the archon quest is 28 for the last act of Liyue, 30 for Inazuma, 35 for Sumeru and 40 for Fontaine. I really feel like they should've done something like AR32 Inazuma, AR40 Sumeru and AR46 Fontaine.
I know some people think Mihoyo should let players rush Inazuma because they need mats for some characters, but even if we leave Inazuma at AR30, Sumeru should be much higher than 35.
Also, the rhythm changes a lot because in Mondstadt and Liyue, each act has a different AR requirement (Liyue is 23, 25 then 28), but starting from Inazuma, you can do the entire chapter in one go. It's not consistent, choose one system or the other...
Around AR35 and AR40 you'll have unlocked everything that isn't behind a quest basically, which you can already see it's a shit ton of content that can be quite overwhelming, but just keep going at your own pace and enjoy the ride, the more you advance, the more it gets better, you'll probably notice that first when you go to Dragonspine
Hope you have fun, also feel free to share your newfag tales, as a 1.0 player, it's always refreshing to see some throwbacks
>because she's very cute and I love Yuuki Aoi
I'm sorry for when you'll get to Sumeru, I don't fucking know what the VA directors were smoking when they told her to completely butcher Lumine's cool and collected personality into complete kawaii uguu screeches. Never switch to Dendro Traveler unless you're ok with this. Hydro is not as offensive but still bad.
Sara is only valuable when you have a vertically invested electro carry. That's when she's gaining value.
Most of the time you're better off running Fischl or Bennett.
Nilou Bloom is quite potent, i do wish i had her signature weapon as HP% swords do not exist in the game yet and the ones we are finally getting are locked behind the gatcha.
i really hate they dropped the ball on the fontaine craftables, they really should have been HP% as many Hydro units scale with it.
Does no one acknowledge the Cloud Retainer at all? Is there really not a single person who wants to roll for her? Are there any leaks about this useless hag bird besides her being a healer?
her skill will supposedly turn her into a bird if only briefly, and you'll fly for a bit
that's about all the information I retained from various anons talking about her few threads back
I mean, how do you know?
Do you know what she's like during gameplay?
lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nilou kit is to turbo buff bloom, making D tier units S tier and that's her whole point
How the fuck, would Furina be tailored to that??? Use your fucking head. If anything, Furina is more likely to enhance her and Kokomi if she has HP mechanics than replacing. Replacing, say, Xingqiu in double hydro cores for HP scalers.
Yes anon. She's not gonna replace Nilou for bloom you cock sucking moron.
He asked about Bloom now go sell your shitty Bokuko elsewhere.
>Nilou kit is to turbo buff bloom, making D tier units S tier and that's her whole point
How the fuck, would Furina be tailored to that??? Use your fucking head. If anything, Furina is more likely to enhance her and Kokomi if she has HP mechanics than replacing. Replacing, say, Xingqiu in double hydro cores for HP scalers.
Anon...? I'm PRETTY sure he meant Furina could end up being a better option over Kokomi, not Nilou. Calm down, buddy. THe others are gonna keep baiting you otherwise.
Nilou enables a unique reaction as bloom hardly functions without her.
she can make blooms explode as soon as they are created and can increase the damage by up to 400% (requires about 75k HP to get this, with no HP% sword outside of her signature you will land around mid-60k HP achieving about 300% damage increase making her signature weapon quite powerful)
to balance this her talents are disabled if she is not exclusively used in a Hydro + dendro team.
she is quite powerful at C0 without weapon but gets downright broken at C2 with her signature weapon if you are certain you like her gameplay. (C2 is a -35% resistance shred for both Dendro and Hydro)
her synergy with Nahida gets downright disgusting if you C2 Nahida as well.
Nah, Hu Tao is single target. I just want an AOE unit. Only Childe and Kokomi have consistent AOE. Ayato only during burst and Mona is scuffed.
Hydro is too single target focused.
You're thinking too technical, anon. I don't mean that.
I just mean I want a girl to infuse Hydro into her way and hit shit REALLY HARD while being able to move around freely and naturally, like Hu Tao and Keqing do. As long as she does that, the rest doesn't matter to me.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ah, you meant Infusion. If she's like Ayaka and have 100% uptime, it would be nice.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Agreed, but without the Mona dash, please. Dodging with her or Ayaka is still stressful and inconsistent to me. If she has to have one, make her surf or skate or something.
>Plot Twist: Furina isn't Xingqiu 3.0, but Hydro Fischl instead with rapidfire hydro attacks that don't need normal attack inputs to activate them.
So Xingqiu 3.0
Your reading comprehension is incredibly lacking, anon. Xingqiu and Yelan are useless without someone using their normal attacks to activate their projectiles. Fischl doesn't have that problem since Oz auto-fires. He's just even better if they do normal attacks. If Xingqiu and Yelan worked that way, Dehya mains would be so upset.
your forgetting Furina is also a Hydro unit so unless her kit specifically works against what Nilou is doing you might be able to run both for an even greater effect.
that being said it would be pretty hard to beat the constant AOE nukes in the ballpark of 50,000-100,000 that Nilou + Nahida without the need of good artifacts just "good enough" ones as off-field mostly just wants EM and Nilou mostly just wants HP so you can mostly side-step the crit value rabbit hole outside of trying to eek out a bit more damage from on-field Nahida when the bloom reaction dwarfs it anyway.
People forget that Niloom has a very high ceiling and vertical investment. They just talk about it having a high floor but the ceiling is up there.
Overall, I would still say International is the better team overall because of elemental checks, as Cryo ruins Niloom, but pure Numbers, it's gonna be hard to dethrone Nilou teams in AOE scenarios.
exactly, Nilou being locked to Hydro/Dendro characters exclusively is supposed to be her weak point, she can't be universal as that would be just too much as AOE in general is quite potent.
[...]
Furina will summon an AOE hydro vortex the size of Nahida's Q. Trust the plan. And this will be completely busted stacked with Nahida + Nilou.
i doubt it to be honest, i am assuming it will be some sort of HP gain/loss mechanic for a benefit, if she offers powerful aoe hydro application it would be a complete game over situation where you would hardly need anything else.
People forget that Niloom has a very high ceiling and vertical investment. They just talk about it having a high floor but the ceiling is up there.
Overall, I would still say International is the better team overall because of elemental checks, as Cryo ruins Niloom, but pure Numbers, it's gonna be hard to dethrone Nilou teams in AOE scenarios.
Furina will summon an AOE hydro vortex the size of Nahida's Q. Trust the plan. And this will be completely busted stacked with Nahida + Nilou.
are you stupid?
Furina's gimmicks are >damaging and healing the entire team to activate Fontaine's gimmicks >buffing max HP
both the healing and the max HP buff do wonders for Nilou
if the healing is good enough you might able to run triple hydro and field Nahida to achieve maximum bloom if she does neither of those I'm skipping, because she looks boring as fuck. XQ but girl, what the fuck were they thinking??
Zajef cannot play the Fucking game and has awful takes. That and he glazes Xingqiu 24/7.
I'm glad Baizhu exists though because now I can run Kazuha/Sucrose in Aggravate and have him as the dendro.
How hard is the abyss? I’ve been playing for some months now. I usually just login if they’re giving out gems. Thinking about building characters to tackle it.
it varies from abyss cycle to abyss cycle like the 3.7 abyss was rather rough if you lacked really good Pyro teams.
if nothing else you only get 600 primos from a full clear and it pro-rates down to however much you can do so even if your characters have ass artifacts you should get at least a fair number of stars.
I have no idea how anyone can consider the Abyss fun. I haven't bothered making new teams in ages because I just use whatever can get it over with the fastest.
Experimentation in this game is way too much of a pain and not rewarding at all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a (you) problem
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And I am always right.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
when those are your abyss teams it's no wonder you aren't having fun
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn't have fun before those teams. I made those teams in order to get it over with quickly.
Try reading posts before you respond and make yourself look like a moron.
>since it's not a major pain in the ass for once.
I fucking hate you obnoxious tryhards so much. >4 piss streams from the water things >maguu kenki >50,000 robots
Current abyss is still obnoxious and awful, same as ever. Stop trying to get people to waste their time on it. You're not impressing anyone.
NTA but it's definitely much more easy than the last 6 or so cycles. Anybody who regularly gets 30-36 stars could tell you that. Also,
kenki
Single Kenki is pretty easy, and they went even easier by not putting Triple Kenki instead.
Not sure how you got "tryhard" out of me saying I didn't have a hard time with this one. I usually go in, get the stars I can with whatever I want to play and bounce. I couldn't get all the stars last time, so I like the current one. No need to get so angry over nothing.
Wasn't last one even easier? I think you would have had better results swapping Nahida and Al Aitham spots. Nahida is just much better in Niloom and Aitham quickbloom is his best team.
THis was before I realized I neede dto switch Kokomi to full EM Gilded Dreams for more damage. My usual Nilou team probably would've won if I did it now. But I also felt Nahida was needed more on the second side at the time.
>C2 Nahida and C2 Nilou
My C0 bloom team was unable to clear this last one.
My C0 Nahida and Nilou team pulled it off earlier, anon. Follow what that video does for the end parts and you'll make it.
Yeah sadly my Mika is only C1, maybe I'll get more when I wish for Navia
Post build
Also Masanori is old news, do Vivianne or Ninianne
I was doing some testing with bloodstained/pale and swapping one out for husk
The results were extremely close, like within a few hundred damage and only a 3% difference in crit damage
It's not so much needing an email, I just wish everything didn't require signing up but I get it. Managed to find some more mods to add to my collection that weren't visible without an account now at least.
Hardly, there hasn't been a 4pc set that works on say many different characters since. When people farmed that domain they were farming for like 80% of the characters in the game considering you get Shimenawas at the same time >noooooo math trannies said this 2+2 pc set is 3% better!
Because more characters end up using it. Why don't you retards understand what resin efficiency is? The difference is hardly ever worth dumping 10s of thousands of resin into an artifact set that a lot less characters will use
in many cases there's little efficient of farming 2 mid sets instead of 2 good sets
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
ESL bro, want to rephrase that sentence so it actually makes sense?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>grammar nazi
I accept your concession
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Asking for a sentence that actually makes some sense and doesn't leave people confused as to what the fuck you're trying to say isn't the same as being a grammar nazi
Redo IELTS before posting here
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i understood what he meant
you might be retarded if you didn't
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>in many cases there's little efficient of farming 2 mid sets instead of 2 good sets
I'm still trying to make sense of this. Is he implying that farming Emblem somehow isn't efficient?
I need some spreadsheet fags to explain to how farming for most of the characters in the game somehow isn't efficient, but farming for 2 or 3 characters somehow is
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Swap of to "in", retard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And yet he's still fucking wrong. Mathfags, where's the explanation?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'll just let you cope with your "3%" inferiority, spreadsheet moron. No point trying to convince someone who can't do math.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So you can't explain how farming for a small handful of characters is more resin efficient than farming for most of the characters in the game at once? I accept your concession
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>why would you farm for characters you use??
Common sense you lack.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Farm Emblem >end up farming for Rational, International, and Hu Tao/Yoimiya double hydro all at the same time
Probably. No leaks until 4.2 beta starts which is still almost 3 weeks away. Earliest release date for Furina is november first but not actually confirmed.
You mean like how people were still getting Wrio wrong when 4.0 dropped and actual WebMs showing what he and Neuvi could do didn't show up for like two weeks?
Yeah, nah. Halfway through. People are too damn slow.
>CCs telling people to farm GD/DW domain still
There will be so many people bricked when Furina comes around and they haven't been farming the newest domain.
I don't think the newest domain is worth farming over the previous hydro/hp domain but we'll see. Pretty sure 2+2 will be best for at least Neuv, Wrio seems to want that new normal attack set though.
100% get new characters. I have Ayaka's BIS team. It's a strict rotation gameplay and I don't recommend it in 2023 where dendro teams can play fast and loose exist.
Ayala is still alright but she only has one team and needs a lot of investment into artifacts and weapons. Shenhe is worth it if you're really into Ayaka.
>Shenhe is worth it if you're really into Ayaka.
no she isn't
Im not the original anon, but ill bite, who and why? rosaria?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shenhe just doesn't bring enough to the team to be worth it over other characters. The exception being if you whale for either her c6 or Ayaka's c6. Or if you get Shenhe's c1, then she might eke out some alternatives but even then you just double invested into a mid character.
Quick example. Let's say your big dick Shenhe somehow adds 20k damage to Ayaka's attacks, 7 of them. That's 140k single target damage right?
What if you brought Hutao into the party and melted her burst once? That's going to be more than 140k damage and it's AOE, and she other wise has no synergy in the team yet she's still bringing more than Shenhe. If you want cryo resonance you can just use anyone else and not really suffer for it. Ganyu being the best pic for damage and Diona being good for shield/energy/heal.
I'd recommend the new characters honestly. I haven't used my Ayaka and Shenhe freeze team since I got Nahida. Freeze teams still take a significant amount of investment, but it's still more investment than bloom and aggravate teams, and they also don't even do as well as bloom and aggravate teams. I'm hoping Furina gives a boost to freeze teams.
No point in farming EOSF if you don't have characters or want characters that use it, now matter how "efficient" it is, especially if you need artifacts for characters that you do use.
There is no universal optimal calculation. It's all based around account state and personal desire.
>if you don't have characters or want characters that use it
That's like most of the cast, and you get Shimenawa's at the same time as well which can be used on plenty of others. There's a reason why it was the most farmed artifact domain until Sumeru came out
Point is what good is EOSF if some newfag joined around the Sumeru bloc and need DW/GD for their Nahida/Alhaitham. They might not even have or care about old characters that use EOSF.
EOSF is efficient if the account has or want the characters that use it. It isn't if the account doesn't.
Newfags are screwed either way, but plenty of T0 characters are burst dependant and can benefit from Emblem
Maybe if you're only using Spread/Aggravate teams then sure it loses value, but damn near everyone who 36 stars the Abyss (the only place where strong artifacts matter) uses some form of National
And even in some Dendro teams that need off field hydro, characters like Xingqiu and Yelan can benefit from Emblem
It's a matter of putting resin to appropriate use contextualized to their account. Newfags should farm EOSF "eventually" to give their roster depth but if they don't have the characters that use it "now" then it's pointless to have 1000 emblems sitting in their inventory while their Sumeru characters are poorly built. Besides, it's not like they can't just farm new sets and then trickle the junk down to EOSF.
It all circles back to who they have, where their account is at, and what do they want.
Which you can get from the Strongbox. You can get Emblem from the Strongbox too, and that's honestly where you should be dumping all of your trash pieces
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The only 2 sets you need for Dendro teams are 4pc Deepwood for the dendro shred, and a full EM Gilded Dreams for Kuki
As a newfag I got a set for xl and xq without ever touching that domain thanks to the strongbox, its not amazing (55cr, 100 something CD), but at least its something, not like a C0 xiangling or xq even do that much damage mind you, people overvalue them at low constelations in my opinion
The only 2 sets you need for Dendro teams are 4pc Deepwood for the dendro shred, and a full EM Gilded Dreams for Kuki
No you dont, I didn't even have kuki for a long time, dendro allowed me to catch up so I did need more than one deepwood set (one with full EM and another with ER, while getting a balanced one for an aggravate character and pieces for fischl on the way to the full EM set, call it training wheels but dendro and nahida at least have let me complete combat events where everyone complains about how easy they are while I can barely scrape by
Imagine a scenario where some newfag joined at the beginning of Sumeru. They got Nahida, Collei, DMC, Alhaitham. There is absolutely no reason for them to touch emblem no matter how efficient it is because they need to build those characters for there here and now. They can just recycle the junk into EOSF.
The premise behind EOSF efficiency is based on the assumption of the """theorycrafter's""" own desire, account progress, supposition about how the game is """supposed""" to be played. It's rooted in their own bias which could and probably is a complete departure from the newfag's experience, especially if they joined in Fontaine who may not even need to touch old characters depending how the new characters are.
Theory crafters are the ones telling you to use 2+2 pieces for a specific character because it's slightly better than Emblem. That was what this entire argument was about, 2+2 Xingqiu vs Emblem Xingqiu
Yes it is.
40k upfront damage is better than a potential 41k downhill damage. That's basically the only difference ignoring the ER requirements(which in XQ's case don't really matter since he uses sac)
That's like 1-2 volley of rainswords, and that shit's up for the entire rotation >potentially
More like all the time if you're not a total shitter. It's job is to also enable vapes so of course you want thay shit up all the time
newcuties shouldn't farm artifacts. By the time they reach AR45, they will have enough characters and should focus according to their needs. Emblem is better to quickly build teams to ok levels( %ER and extra damage), after that, you farm for your DPS.
>XQ damage!!!!!!!!!!
He's just there to sprinkle water and make sure my characters don't get knocked around. His damage is pathetic no matter what you do.
That's like 1-2 volley of rainswords, and that shit's up for the entire rotation >potentially
More like all the time if you're not a total shitter. It's job is to also enable vapes so of course you want thay shit up all the time
You might be illiterate. Upfront > downhill. Upfront damage means your enemy dies faster. And it isn't all the time because if you aren't a shitter your enemies die long before Xingqiu's burst ends. And you don't usually hit every enemy with every sword. Xingqiu whiffs a ton of his attacks. >It's job is to also enable vapes
And to vape. You're using him wrong.
Yeah, yeah, not everyone is Tony the r5 damage per screenshot whale. Especially the average Genshiner. That advice to go 2x is completely useless for 99% of the playerbase.
[...]
No anon you don't get it, you're just using him wrong! Your'e supposed to be spending tens of thousands on R5 weapons and perfect artifacts for meme nukes!
He's using Sacrificial Sword and Amber you fucking mongoloids what the fuck are you talking about whales for?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah a fucking Aquila Benny, Mona, and Skyward Amber in like the first Abyss. I'm sure even my Emblem Xingqiu can do that against 2 ruin guards, but no f2p was doing that in 1.0-1.3
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can do the budget version of that with Sapwood Blade Bennett, Mona, Instructor's Amber with any (probably Favonious) bow and still get big dick damage with how you can vape easily off Amber's burst pyro application.
Yeah, yeah, not everyone is Tony the r5 damage per screenshot whale. Especially the average Genshiner. That advice to go 2x is completely useless for 99% of the playerbase.
No anon you don't get it, you're just using him wrong! Your'e supposed to be spending tens of thousands on R5 weapons and perfect artifacts for meme nukes!
Yeah a fucking Aquila Benny, Mona, and Skyward Amber in like the first Abyss. I'm sure even my Emblem Xingqiu can do that against 2 ruin guards, but no f2p was doing that in 1.0-1.3
Yeah that was this specific Abyss, all the way from 1.3. For reference this was before Hu Tao was even announced as a playable character in Genshin
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Spiral_Abyss/Floors/2021-02-16
So yes, a whale showcase and not relevant for how most people use Xingqiu. You can also do even more damage by quad melting Chongyun's burst, but no body does that because everyone prefers the easist way to do more damage
This is why National and Hyperbloom are the most popular teams, and people who want easy teams also want to spend the least effort farming them instead of being min-maxing blowhards in a phone game for kids
There's nothing about it that a completely f2p casual couldn't get. You are in extreme damage control.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go ahead and do that in the current Abyss. Post your own videos this time instead of some chink whale's
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>go ahead and do my damage control for me
I accept your concession.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can't post your own videos? Surely you play the game and have a skill focused Xingqiu built, right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I cant do that and im f2poor, what are you even going on about?, do you have a magic formula to make my C1 xq do damage?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah he does its whale
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah he does its whale
How do you whale on Xingqiu?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
5 star weapon at max refinement
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He uses sacrificial sword.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Still waiting for your video
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You already conceded, you're just being a sore loser.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it looks like a Sacrificial Sword
I can make any weapon look like the sacrificial sword in just few minutes of copy-pasting
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Mistsplitter Benny, Elegy Amber, max refresh daily resin for perfect artifacts
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
none of those were in any of the comparisons
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your comparisons, sorry Tony To's comparisons, are from 1.3 and not relevant to today's discussion. Still waiting for your Xingqiu btw
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hilarious cope.
[...]
You didn't answer me though, can you do it without 5* weapons on the others?, what is the secret?, you seem just like any other shitposter that just speaks out of their own ass
There is no secret, if your XQ isn't vaping like that you're doing something wrong. Namely you took the retard pill and farmed a dumb set for him.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he still can't post his own videos
This is fucking pathetic. Go back to /gig/
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he still wants me to do his damage control for him
Imagine being so desperate that you're arguing that having a Sacrificial Sword is whaling
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Where are your own videos? Surely you play the game, right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What a sad hill to die on.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Still can't post any of your own videos? Are you going to keep reposting 3 year old Bilibili clips that don't belong to you?
If you're putting this much effort into shilling a skill focused Xingqiu build, it must mean you actually play the game and have a skill focused Xingqiu yourself
Afterall, who would be mentally ill enough to engage in this sort of discussion about a game they don't play?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well, can you show me the setup beyond these videos?, what are the stats and cons?, can my C1 xq do this?, I need to know
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have to have c4 to do that precisely, that constellation is s a flat 50% increase of his skill damage(opposed to normal dmg % modifiers which aren't flat increases). For his stats you need at least 170% ER which is pretty easy to get then you just put stuff into atk/crit/elementalmastery.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ah crap, thanks for being straightforward, its very hard for anons to be forthcoming with this, until then I shouldn't expect good numbers even when invested right?, better just to treat him as a strong hydro applicator with decent damage right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
50% less than those clips where he was doing 100k crits yeah. He's still good, it's just that his c4 and the talent constellation just make him that much more broken. The 900k clip was from when Abyss had a really stupid buff that boosted elemental damage.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not talking about xq, but nowadays how viable are hydro vape setups outside childe?, are they too much of a hassle to setup and I should stick to diluc / tanfei / hutao being the ones vaping?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yelan vape is great and really easy to setup, Mona and XQ are more of a pain. Neuvilette is coming out and he'll be good in national in Xingqiu's place.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Guess this is my cue to bide my time until furina releases, Ill keep coping with my shitty medium invest characters and team before finally starting to crown and farm artifacts seriously after she releases
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't think she'll be vaping but we'll see.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're right, but if she's a support I bet she'll compliment my xq nicely, and in the best scenario even replace him altogether
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You already conceded, you're just being a sore loser.
You didn't answer me though, can you do it without 5* weapons on the others?, what is the secret?, you seem just like any other shitposter that just speaks out of their own ass
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
post your vid bro, it's easy, you don't need to whale.
Hilarious cope.
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There is no secret, if your XQ isn't vaping like that you're doing something wrong. Namely you took the retard pill and farmed a dumb set for him.
[...]
How do you whale on Xingqiu?
did they divine the original video's damage by about 10?
As long as you can play through the story it doesn't matter. Artifacts only matter if you're trying to 36* abyss. And you won't do that anytime soon anyway.
Honest question
How do I force myself to stop using Kuki? It's been so long that I can't be bothered to toss food into my mouth instead of pressing E and getting 3k heals per second
I want to try different team compositions but feel naked without her as a healer and lesser electro applier
"Heart's Repose
Talent Description
Sanctifying Ring's abilities will be boosted based on Shinobu's Elemental Mastery:
・Healing amount will be increased by 75% of Elemental Mastery.
・DMG dealt is increased by 25% of Elemental Mastery. "
They're shipping characters from a waifu/husbando collector gacha game where everyone are decent friends at best and strangers at worst where all of them only like (You). They were stupid from the beginning, anon. It's hopw shippers work. It's not about what's actually there, but about what they want to see. Especially if it has no chance of happening.
I've fapped a lot to the girls but never touched the game. However, I'm thinking about starting to play it (not really a fan of open world games tho).
But I don't plan to ever spend money on the game, so how fucked I am with regards to getting characters etc.? Do I just go back to consuming porn?
As long as you don't expect to get every single 5 star, it's a very forgiving game. You'll most likely get most 4 stars and a decent number of 5 stars as a f2p, more than you'll ever be able to build and use
Just try it out. You get a bunch of free characters. You don't need to spend money to beat any of the content in the overworld, but you will need to spend time to build your team. Its a very pretty game and very casual overall
It’s an easy game and generally speaking you don’t *need* anyone. Just pull for those few characters who really catch your eye and ignore the rest. Hyper focusing on meta is a great way to stop enjoying the game.
Just try it out. You get a bunch of free characters. You don't need to spend money to beat any of the content in the overworld, but you will need to spend time to build your team. Its a very pretty game and very casual overall
Current free characters (not counting the ones they give out for free every other patch) >Amber >Kaeya >Lisa >Barbara >Noelle (guaranteed from tutorial) >Xiangling >Collei >Lynette
+ your Traveler character who can swit h between hydro, electro, geo, dendro (leaf) or anemo (air)
Doubt he has time before the event ends, he'd need to speed run mond and go straight to Fontaine. Its not that big of a deal he can always get Benny in the starglitter shop
I'm fully expecting her to be on yet another banner I will never touch like every other 4* for over a year has been now, but it would be nice if just once Mihoyo weren't complete gays with their banners.
TGS/4.2 drip marketing is roughly 2 weeks.
>going achievement hunting >oh ok got all the toki alley besides V- >it requires fucking fishing >not only that its a 2% chance
well im never fucking getting this achievement
No, they're inazuma only. After getting the Sumeru bow and Fontaine sword from fishing, I suggest catching the rest of the fish in Inazuma for the 2000 fish acheivement
I did it over a couple months during lunch breaks on my phone, got all of the pages while doing it
I don't know if this is true, but I heard it from others + it was the same for me: you can only get 1 page per day so stop fishing when you get one.
That's how it went for the other 5 pages I had to fish up, the first half was done a while back so I forget. Can anybody confirm?
No, they're inazuma only. After getting the Sumeru bow and Fontaine sword from fishing, I suggest catching the rest of the fish in Inazuma for the 2000 fish acheivement
I did it over a couple months during lunch breaks on my phone, got all of the pages while doing it
I hit all 10 pages by the time I hit like 1200 fish, having only fished in Mond/Liyue before for what had been necessary.
I don't know if this is true, but I heard it from others + it was the same for me: you can only get 1 page per day so stop fishing when you get one.
That's how it went for the other 5 pages I had to fish up, the first half was done a while back so I forget. Can anybody confirm?
I remember getting lucky on 2 pages and received them in very close succession fishing at a spot one day, so pretty sure its false.
Well then, I wish I'd been less of a lucklet, guess I heard that and wanted to believe it because getting a page a couple fishing spots in and then nothing for the rest of Inazuma really made me wish I'd gone and done something else.
Luckily it only took 1 region for h*yo to cut that shit out.
STOP FUCKING DELETING GENSHIN THREADS WHAT WERE WE DOING WRONG
>discussing vidya on the dedicated starfield/bg3 shitposting board
you only have yourself to blame
genshin bad
don't link new threads at the end of old ones
wait for the old thread to die before making a new one
the previous one wasn't linked
General arent allow in Ganker but dont care post more hags
those are some ugly faces
average woman from inazuma
Does Ei bathe in the Plane of Euthymia?
Drink Siggie's
Who is her father?
Me
My cute retarded wife
for some reason i never noticed that huge tear drop on her forehead
>random delete
kokomi you are not a fish...
Kokomi is a human and that's okay.
Kokomi is a reptilian alien
>sumeru tree finally level 50
never going back
Start collecting, fag.
What level does the fountain top out at in 4.0?
4pc Emblem and build him as a hydro DPS. At C6 with an R5 Sac Sword you can ditch ER sands for ATK sands
20.
Go collect 600 sigils.
And then collect 57 more.
Hop to it.
Currently sitting here right now
its so over for me, i have no fucking clue where the rest of these are since i dont use the interactive maps, theyre probably somewhere super obvious and i simply missed them
the range is about 50-58, actually, you get a slightly randomized number of sigils from certain types of chest (2-3), so that can fluctuate the amount you have total.
now do the pool and fountain
I just got to the Inazuma tree. Do these things matter for Mondstadt and Liyue?
Arguably none of it matter if you don't care about the rewards. Only Mondstadt + Liyue occuli matter because there's stamina gauge reward involved.
No, for Mond/Liyue, they were only ever used for a shop in town.
BITRATE, MOTHERFUCKER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY?
>missing the coin box
ngmi
I love kotfish
I have her at c6 because of Yelan
She's weak as fuck
Still a good kot
>720p
>1:11
>2.59 MB
fucking retard moron
nta but mine are similarly shit and heavy as fuck
what's the trick?
Because of the size limits you need to compromise with shorter duration and/or smaller resolution. The longer the clip the smaller the resolution needs to be to not be a complete mess. High movement also increases the size so in some cases you can't do anything about it.
Well, for one the file size limit is now 4 MB so if you're going to add all those parameters together, at least use the full fucking size available.
cutest genshin at adult height?
Cutest hag is Navia
Cutest teen is Nilou
Cutest e-boi is Nahida
Cutest twink is Xingqiu
i want the last one
>Cutest teen is Nilou
Excuse you!
I know what I said. Hu Tao is somewhere around 10th place.
obvious pleb, opinion discarded
i had a gfriend like this, for whatever reason she literally wouldn't understand what an antagonist is and always got upset when i said my favorite character from ___ movie was the 'bad guy'
Cutest? Jean, Eula, Shenhe or Dehya.
But hottest? Beidou and Rosaria. Not even a contest.
I like yelan
Even I pull for Neuv
Odd I pull for Wrioth
Zero I pull for both and suck my own dick
brickedGOD lets go
I warned you about the stairs, bro.
cats aren't supposed to be this good with water...
If you made a new account, which pyro character would you build first between Bennett and Xiangling?
Xiangling needs Bennett to be functional, but Bennett can be used with other characters as well
Bennett obviously. XL isn't good without EOSF+Catch+C6.
very soon
I have a feeling Furina will be completely busted like Nahida.
Of course, Hydro is the best element in the game
>food to increase physical attack
>no food to increase EM
do devs even play this game?
Bro your oils
you mean this?
i've never crafted or used these things
do they help with nilou bloom?
>he used food to 4* the event
Didn't count
>he has B on the team
>Didn't count
>he used dendro
>Didn't count
>he hyperbloom'd
>Didn't count
CuteTao
Cutest Tao
Nilou bloom still unstoppable.
One day I'll get Nilou
She keeps dropping at inconvenient times
>That shader bug on the meka
So which mods do you have installed anon?
Nilou belly button restoration.
If you wanna fix it, look for ShaderRegexCharOutline in the mods ini file and comment out them one by one, since you can do it on the fly it's relatively fast and easy to find exactly which one is broken and disable it. Nearly no modder seems to bother updating their mods for 4.0 to fix it themselves nor tell anyone how to do it.
Interesting. What's a good place to see the bugged effect in-game so I can start making adjustments?
Comment out them one by one? what does that mean
Alright, I think I found it. Thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for other glitches just in case.
Yeah I thought hoyo was crazy once I read the leaks for Nahida and Nilou
Then c2 Nahida just makes it even more broken like wtf
seems really slow compared to my aggravate team with raiden and fischl supporting nahida. I don't even use vv shredder, 4th is just dong for comfy.
I finished it with like 45seconds left with a hyperbloom team
I'm retarded is EM important when doing aggrevate teams or am I fine with none
EM is important for all non Mono elemental team/Physical teams.
>Vape/Melt
100 minimum
>Aggravate
120+, more is good but don't neglect your attack %/crit stats
>Spread
300+
>Hyperbloom/Burgeon/Nilou Bloom Triggers
700+
EM effectively is like having extra attack stat but scales differently, it adds damage based on your EM as flat damage to your attack before your crit stats are applied.
this is important as EM is one of the easiest stats to get from team buffs, Nahida can provide up to 250em, Sucrose offers a decent amount, Diona offers 200em i think, ect.
i tend to run my aggravate driver and electro sub-dps at 200-300em and focus on typical damage stats after this.
i tend to use:
Keqing, Nahida, Fischl, Zhongli
you can get more damage by using an Anemo character instead of Zhongli due to VV res shred but i value the comfort.
Bro your Kirara?
don't have a copy, was caught at a bad time on the banner/s? she was on.
i think at least one time i was on 70 pity before the banner she was introduced on dropped.
So If I did a Nahida Raiden Fish Zhong team I would only need EM on Fishs' artifacts since raiden would be my on field and she would benefit from Nahidas em?
correct
sweet thanks for the help friend
Thank you, anon. Thanks to you, I realized I was handling the last parts wrong. I just focused on the big mech and the other enemies just died on their own anyways. That was so much easier.
>C2 Nahida and C2 Nilou
My C0 bloom team was unable to clear this last one.
It's only C1 Nilou. C2 is tempting though. Nahida is C2 of course.
I can finish that in with 1m remaining in a meme double hydro kazuha EM raiden team
Will these be back for lantern rite?
no
i get like half your damage and it's still my best team
they've never returned so i doubt it
No, better save them.
For me it's
Based Italian enjoyers.
Navia will be Geo Nilou (haha...)
n
for me it's the hag
my idiot friend convinced me that Diona was "way better" than Layla so I built the ugly cat e-boi instead.
then I actually tried out Layla because I had tons of resources and figured why not.
>(much) stronger shield
>100% uptime
>faster cast
>better damage
>procs tenacity extremely well
Diona was literally flat powercrept and nobody talks about it. Unless you're fighting rifthounds or need the EM that badly I guess
Also she's a thousand times cuter but that's a given.
I still use Diona because I like having a healer
You don't need a healer if you have a good shielder. If I have to fight rifthounds then I can just use Kokomi or Jean or Benny.
>Diona was literally flat powercrept and nobody talks about it.
First time?
Both are great. The 200 EM Diona gives is still very valuable in reaction teams. She also provides front-loaded energy, and Sac Bow works great on her. I use her on my Yoi team to 36* Abyss every time. Haven't found a need for my C6 Layla though, but want to.
The thing is that most of the teams you'll be using Diona/Layla in to begin with aren't very energy hungry so the frontloaded battery potential isn't all that relevant. The 200 EM is nice but that's only at C6, and Layla at C6 has plenty of perks of her own. Glad you found a use for her though. I just want a beefy shield and Layla has that in spades.
>(much) stronger shield
Not really, Layla's is stronger but not by a lot.
>100% uptime
Diona covers this by using Sacrificial Bow, no reason to use anything else on her.
>faster cast
Marginally, Diona appears much slower because her projectiles have to hit something before the shield appears but the skill itself goes off fast and even if she gets hit midcast it will go off.
>better damage
Debatable. Layla's damage is heavily reliant on artifacts and weapon to be even noteworthy, meanwhile Diona can rock Noblesse, give 200 EM and 10% movement speed.
>procs tenacity extremely well
Tenacity vs. Noblesse is a whatever discussion as they both offer the same type of buff.
In the end you should always just use whoever you like the most but Layla vs. Diona is more complicated than just thinking Layla powercrept Diona because she didn't. Diona also heals which is a nice backup, especially for that one abyss floor a while back with Abyss Herald+rifthounds.
Anywhere with some mekas in the distance you can look at since the bug seems to only apply to them.
>Layla's is stronger but not by a lot.
Layla literally has the second strongest shield in the game and is comparable to Zhongli's to the point of replacing him to use him in a different team. It is absolutely a lot.
there's a problem with layla though. there isn't a budget 4* HP% sword, and that's not changing any time soon, a 4* HP% gacha sword is coming soon but not a craftable or event one. once she gets that she will be across the board better than diona, but until then diona's other utilities outweight layla outside of maybe freeze comp.
You shouldn't be using Diona in a freeze comp. Shenhe, or Rosaria if you don't have her, are better options for their damage.
I didn't say I use diona in freeze comp.
I was using a general "you" not literally (you).
yeah but I never said anything about using diona in a freeze comp in general, I said that's one of the only places layla is better than her without an HP% sword.
That's no problem at all because she doesn't need the HP sword at all. Her shield still outranks Diona's without it. It just doesn't break and she proces Fav Sword so easily that she makes a great battery, too. Especially at C6. I find plenty of opportunities to bring out Layla in many teams but I never need Diona. Layla is even fun to use with Hu Tao and Eula.
Diona talent Lv9 shield, 30k hp (easy to get, no hp weapon): 5069, C2: 5829
Layla Lv9 shield, 30k hp (again, easy to get with no hp weapon): 7635, C1: 9162
Zhongli Lv9, 40k HP (easy to get, even 50k if using the 3* spear for HP): 11031, also gives 20% all elemental shred but that's different.
Kirara, lv9, 30k hp: 11294, can stack another ~2k through her passive 3 times.
>Diona talent Lv9 shield, 30k hp (easy to get, no hp weapon): 5069, C2: 5829
you're not calcing the hold version here
>The shield created by a Hold attack will gain a 75% DMG Absorption Bonus.
Fuck you are right, I had completely forgotten Diona had two versions of her shield. Did think 5k seemed rather low considering I Never have issues with it in abyss. I'm actually not sure how exactly it counts that because if it's a flat bonus like Layla and Diona's own constellation bonus, that would put her held shield value at 10201, so stronger than Layla.
That can't be right because I've tested the hold version side by side with Layla's shield and it's definitely weaker.
Even if we boost the base absorption multipliers by 75% instead of putting it as a separate multiplier similar to her C2, C2 Diona final numbers at 30k hp still ends up 10200 for me.
Well something must be wrong somewhere because that would make Diona neck and neck with Zhongli, which obviously isn't true in practice.
Anon, read Zhongli's kit. He has a passive that gives 25% shield strength when it gets hit.
Layla constantly procs 4pc Tenacity just by having her shield's projectiles exist or having her burst up, so she gets 30% more shield strength. That might have something to do with it.
So I just tested my C6 Diona against my C3 Layla against Childe with the same artifacts, no HP weapon for Layla and Sac bow on Diona. Layla can take five shots and Diona can take four. Idk where your math is wrong but it’s wrong.
Layla has C1 giving more shield absorption. Does Diona have one ? Maybe that's the difference.
Diona’s C2 boosts damage absorption by 15 percent. I also made sure to take the shots early, since Layla’s shield gets stronger as it builds up more stars.
The difference in shield absorption between C6 Layla and C6 Diona is much greater than the difference between C6 Layla and C0 Zhongli. Layla's C1 gives a flat 20 percent bonus to her shield absorption as well as a passive that boosts its strength over time. Also if you're lucky like me you can use Key of Khajnisut on Layla to make her that much tankier. She can protect you against floor 12 consecrated beasts. Diona can't do that.
Diona has ALWAYS been dogshit. People, once again, took way too long to realise.
In what reaction team will you run Diona as your Shielder? Hu Tao won't benefit from it since she wants to be low HP. Reverse melt teams do not use Diona. Melt/Vape, you're better off using an Anemo unit in her slot, Bennett offers all the heals and buffing you need. Freeze doesn't care about EM.
Again, everyone is bringing her C6 when in reality, nobody fucking uses it. Edge case would be fridge but that's shit and cope dendro team.
>In what reaction team will you run Diona as your Shielder?
You can run her with aggrevate/spread teams because cryo wont interferee despite reacting with electro.
You can also run her with Yoimiya vape or overload teams.
I'd rather run Layla and get more energy and off-field Cryo and have Kuki there as the healer instead.
Not really room for that in regards to Yoimiya. Anything using Yoimiya ideally also wants Yunjin so that's Yoimiya/Yelan/Yunjin already for a vape team, or Yoimiya/Fischl/Yunjin for overload (or Raiden if you want but Fischl is better for this). Diona is great for either team, Zhongli is a bit better because of the shred but Diona works really well as well.
You should be using Noblesse on Diona regardless honestly, it's just the most consistent for her.
Zhongli has a geo shield which has innate absorption against all elements that I forgot to include, his shield value is like 50% more than I listed. Layla and Diona have 2.5x bonus against cryo and Kirara has that against dendro but no one ever bothers to count that, I should've included it for Zhongli though because geo applies against everything.
Optimally, you would want Zhongli for the Geo resonance. Diona's application during her ult can mess up Yoimiya's combos, making her melt the wrong hits.
I use Layla with Yoimiya for melt and it works great. Not sure what you're doing wrong. I find no rhyme or reason to use Diona there since Yoimiya already hits hard enough on her own. I don't have a Thundering Pulse, but with Shimenawa, R5 Rust and her talents at 9-9-9, she's doing just fine.
I mean you can use whoever you want, Diona's EM just offers more damage than Layla can offer unless you have an invested Layla with either Key or Jade Cutter, meanwhile Diona only needs Sac Bow, Noblesse and substats are literally irrelevant.
If you are using Yoimiya vape/overload you are clearly focusing more on having fun anyway so just be yourself anon.
You just seem desperate for people to not consider Layla an option over Diona when more and more people clearly find no need for her anymore. Her EM buff is inconsequential and her healing isn't even that great over any other option. You can use her if you want, but don't be upset others prefer Layla over her.
Diona's not even the cutest e-boi, let alone cuter than Layla.
I've not once said to not use Layla, nor am I upset if people are using her. The whole discussion started by one anon claiming Layla powercrept Diona when the truth is she didn't, nothing more, nothing less.
The problem I have with using Layla in my Yoimiya team is that I have the Key and the only way to get it to proc is by having Layla on-field long enough for/when her stars hit. The quickest way I've found was Layla skill, swap, any quick skill, then swap back to Layla and the stars start firing. The problem is that it cuts into the uptime of the shield so it runs out in the middle of Yoimiya's DPS phase. It also only gives 106 EM instead of 200.
>Aggravate
She doesn't procc Milelith enough like Layla does. Despite what people think, Aggravate still scales more from Atk/crits than EM. I guess you could run her with Noblesse at C6 and that's a nice boost.
>Spread
Fair enough. They strictly scale crits and EM.
Diona is cuter and has utility with her noticeable EM buff and healing. She's essential in my Yoimiya team. Layla would not be able to replace her.
what's stopping me from literally skipping through all the unvoiced dialogue in this event?
RSI from clicking
Is my Itto strong?
i'm literally like this
kys chud
So it's been a week since I started my new account to play with Lumine because she's very cute and I love Yuuki Aoi.
I've been playing a lot, like 10 hours a day on average and I didn't even reach Inazuma yet. Here are the stats:
>20 pulls on Noelle banner
>80 pulls on limited banner
>40 pulls on standard banner
>Not F2P. I bought Welkin and Battle Pass
>Adventure Rank 33
>4 characters level 60 with level 60 weapons, 2/4/4 talents and +12 purple artifacts
>Mondstadt: 91% exploration, 13/22 quest completion
>Liyue: 45% exploration, 29/52 quest completion
>Dragonspine and Chasm not started
The game has a fuckton of content, and I even skipped some grinding by using about 500 stardusts on mats.
The progression was really smooth before Liyue, I had time to explore Mondstadt before reaching the required AR to play Liyue.
But then, around AR28-32, you just unlock too many features at the same time.
You unlock the first story quest, fishing, the card game, the teapot quest, the Shenhe interlude, the first two Dainsleif quests.
I feel like by the time I finish Dragonspine and Liyue, I'll be AR40. The required AR to progress the archon quest is 28 for the last act of Liyue, 30 for Inazuma, 35 for Sumeru and 40 for Fontaine. I really feel like they should've done something like AR32 Inazuma, AR40 Sumeru and AR46 Fontaine.
I know some people think Mihoyo should let players rush Inazuma because they need mats for some characters, but even if we leave Inazuma at AR30, Sumeru should be much higher than 35.
Also, the rhythm changes a lot because in Mondstadt and Liyue, each act has a different AR requirement (Liyue is 23, 25 then 28), but starting from Inazuma, you can do the entire chapter in one go. It's not consistent, choose one system or the other...
They've gradually removed gating in some aspects. Liyue/Inazuma lock is probably too baked in to be addressed at least for the time being.
What's your roster look like and what team did you decide to use?
Noelle with Serpent Spine
Bennett with Harbinger of Dawn
Fischl with Favonius Warbow
Xingqiu with Iron Sting
Around AR35 and AR40 you'll have unlocked everything that isn't behind a quest basically, which you can already see it's a shit ton of content that can be quite overwhelming, but just keep going at your own pace and enjoy the ride, the more you advance, the more it gets better, you'll probably notice that first when you go to Dragonspine
Hope you have fun, also feel free to share your newfag tales, as a 1.0 player, it's always refreshing to see some throwbacks
>because she's very cute and I love Yuuki Aoi
I'm sorry for when you'll get to Sumeru, I don't fucking know what the VA directors were smoking when they told her to completely butcher Lumine's cool and collected personality into complete kawaii uguu screeches. Never switch to Dendro Traveler unless you're ok with this. Hydro is not as offensive but still bad.
Rabi posters get the rope
DON'T GIVE IT UP NILOU
property of dendro
is razor actually a wolf or what
like gorou is totally a dog but razor is just confusing
razor is a human raised by wolves
have you never heard of "the boy who was raised by wolves"? they were going for that.
Razor is a feral child. He's 100% a human. He was just raided by wolves. And Varka. And Lisa.
>Razor was raided by Lisa
nice
Why does the hag who'll die in 10 year have a monopoly on the Mondstsdt shotas? It's not fair!
Stop replying to yourself, shotacon anon. There's a whole Genshin shota thread in desperate need of you right here
is Sara still valuable? or is her slot safely replaced by
>B
Sara is only valuable when you have a vertically invested electro carry. That's when she's gaining value.
Most of the time you're better off running Fischl or Bennett.
>Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing.
Furina will be for (you)
Nilou Bloom is quite potent, i do wish i had her signature weapon as HP% swords do not exist in the game yet and the ones we are finally getting are locked behind the gatcha.
i really hate they dropped the ball on the fontaine craftables, they really should have been HP% as many Hydro units scale with it.
>
>Genshitter is a schizo
Imagine my shock
does jean call barbara to put out the fire in this situation
Mika and Kaeya are right there.
does throwing ice at fire actually put it out?
Does no one acknowledge the Cloud Retainer at all? Is there really not a single person who wants to roll for her? Are there any leaks about this useless hag bird besides her being a healer?
I never liked her.
>more boring chinkshit
>literally a fucking bird
Birds are fucking awesome I want to play as a bird
I swear I am not a Chinese neural network
birb
i never liked those dumb U-U glasses so it's been an automatic no for me
I’m not really into blatant dyke bait.
her skill will supposedly turn her into a bird if only briefly, and you'll fly for a bit
that's about all the information I retained from various anons talking about her few threads back
we're not even entirely sure she'll be playable tbh i don't have much to say
I don't need this random chink bitch pushing back the lineup of characters I'm actually interested in
Guizhong is much cuter and should've been playable instead. Too bad she died.
I like women who fail
She’s hot, but it’ll depend on her story quest for me.
god i wanna fuck the shit outta that bird
>Guizhong is much cuter and should've been playable instead.
Realistically, what could she even do, queef dust clouds at enemies?
Argggggggggh! I want to COOM in LOOM!!!!
Argggggggggh! Cloud Retainer when??!!? I want to COOM!!!!
Her kit so far looks like it'll make her an anemo healer support which nobody really needs
Actually, would make it so you don't need Kazuha and run Mona instead of Kokomi.
>so you don't need Kazuha
So confirmed she's getting nerfed then, good to know. No way MHY isn't going to let their Wesley not take the spotlight.
There are situations where Sucrose is better than Kazuha. Again, her being great doesn't mean she'll 100% replace their self insert.
Is 25% physical dmg + 25% physical dmg better for Xinyan or 25% physical + 30% DEF due to her DEF scaling?
the only def scaling part is her shield, if she's a dps don't build for it
But her C6 gives an attack buff equal to 50% of her def
Meant for
to her ca only you want her burst to take advantage of artifact stats as well
My cute dendro wife
which is a better investment for dendro, Nilou or kok? in my eyes kokomi can be replaced but i don't know
Nilou is unique, Kok is 5* barb.
Nilou obviously. The premium version wants Kokomi but you can get away with Barbara and Kirara.
You need to pull who you like most.
Furina could powercreep both so wait for the kit leak.
>Furina will powercreep both
gay. Not even the same fucking role and function.
>For DENDRO
For being the operative word here.
>No news on her kit
>>Not even the same fucking role and function
gay.
Yes anon. She's not gonna replace Nilou for bloom you cock sucking moron.
He asked about Bloom now go sell your shitty Bokuko elsewhere.
I mean, how do you know?
Do you know what she's like during gameplay?
lmao
>Nilou kit is to turbo buff bloom, making D tier units S tier and that's her whole point
How the fuck, would Furina be tailored to that??? Use your fucking head. If anything, Furina is more likely to enhance her and Kokomi if she has HP mechanics than replacing. Replacing, say, Xingqiu in double hydro cores for HP scalers.
>She's not gonna replace Nilou for bloom
You don't know that. You just assume that.
Anon...? I'm PRETTY sure he meant Furina could end up being a better option over Kokomi, not Nilou. Calm down, buddy. THe others are gonna keep baiting you otherwise.
Both. You should be using them together. that said, do Nilou first. She's the most important piece.
Nilou enables a unique reaction as bloom hardly functions without her.
she can make blooms explode as soon as they are created and can increase the damage by up to 400% (requires about 75k HP to get this, with no HP% sword outside of her signature you will land around mid-60k HP achieving about 300% damage increase making her signature weapon quite powerful)
to balance this her talents are disabled if she is not exclusively used in a Hydro + dendro team.
she is quite powerful at C0 without weapon but gets downright broken at C2 with her signature weapon if you are certain you like her gameplay. (C2 is a -35% resistance shred for both Dendro and Hydro)
her synergy with Nahida gets downright disgusting if you C2 Nahida as well.
Is there any porn of Salsa?
Yes, there is.
No, I'm not posting it.
Could you lead me in the right direction?
Make a U-turn
Couldn't find it there.
That's a very complex way of coping, anon
You have no idea what she's like so stop making shit up
Furina is going to be Xingqiu 3.0
>another Xingqiu
Boring fucking shit. We need AOE.
Plot Twist: Furina isn't Xingqiu 3.0, but Hydro Fischl instead with rapidfire hydro attacks that don't need normal attack inputs to activate them.
I'd rather have her be Childe 2.0 with bigger numbers.
I agree, actually. Or rather, Hydro Hu Tao or Hydro Keqing.
Nah, Hu Tao is single target. I just want an AOE unit. Only Childe and Kokomi have consistent AOE. Ayato only during burst and Mona is scuffed.
Hydro is too single target focused.
You're thinking too technical, anon. I don't mean that.
I just mean I want a girl to infuse Hydro into her way and hit shit REALLY HARD while being able to move around freely and naturally, like Hu Tao and Keqing do. As long as she does that, the rest doesn't matter to me.
Ah, you meant Infusion. If she's like Ayaka and have 100% uptime, it would be nice.
Agreed, but without the Mona dash, please. Dodging with her or Ayaka is still stressful and inconsistent to me. If she has to have one, make her surf or skate or something.
>Plot Twist: Furina isn't Xingqiu 3.0, but Hydro Fischl instead with rapidfire hydro attacks that don't need normal attack inputs to activate them.
So Xingqiu 3.0
Your reading comprehension is incredibly lacking, anon. Xingqiu and Yelan are useless without someone using their normal attacks to activate their projectiles. Fischl doesn't have that problem since Oz auto-fires. He's just even better if they do normal attacks. If Xingqiu and Yelan worked that way, Dehya mains would be so upset.
Hydro Fischl =/= Xingqiu 3.0.
If Furina+Nahida outdamages Nilou+Nahida then Nilou's unique kit doesn't matter.
your forgetting Furina is also a Hydro unit so unless her kit specifically works against what Nilou is doing you might be able to run both for an even greater effect.
that being said it would be pretty hard to beat the constant AOE nukes in the ballpark of 50,000-100,000 that Nilou + Nahida without the need of good artifacts just "good enough" ones as off-field mostly just wants EM and Nilou mostly just wants HP so you can mostly side-step the crit value rabbit hole outside of trying to eek out a bit more damage from on-field Nahida when the bloom reaction dwarfs it anyway.
People forget that Niloom has a very high ceiling and vertical investment. They just talk about it having a high floor but the ceiling is up there.
Overall, I would still say International is the better team overall because of elemental checks, as Cryo ruins Niloom, but pure Numbers, it's gonna be hard to dethrone Nilou teams in AOE scenarios.
exactly, Nilou being locked to Hydro/Dendro characters exclusively is supposed to be her weak point, she can't be universal as that would be just too much as AOE in general is quite potent.
i doubt it to be honest, i am assuming it will be some sort of HP gain/loss mechanic for a benefit, if she offers powerful aoe hydro application it would be a complete game over situation where you would hardly need anything else.
Furina will summon an AOE hydro vortex the size of Nahida's Q. Trust the plan. And this will be completely busted stacked with Nahida + Nilou.
are you stupid?
Furina's gimmicks are
>damaging and healing the entire team to activate Fontaine's gimmicks
>buffing max HP
both the healing and the max HP buff do wonders for Nilou
if the healing is good enough you might able to run triple hydro and field Nahida to achieve maximum bloom
if she does neither of those I'm skipping, because she looks boring as fuck. XQ but girl, what the fuck were they thinking??
>are you stupid?
>Furina's gimmicks are
>--pulled straight out of his ass--
epic
I've seen it in a dream, she's actually mono hydro
Yes but Archon team is better
what would john offer in this team
strongest shield in the game for comfort and universal -20% resistance shred
Sex appeal
dodging is a dps loss
Anti-shieldfags will never admit to this.
Spreadsheet schizos like Zajef did irreparable damage.
Zajef cannot play the Fucking game and has awful takes. That and he glazes Xingqiu 24/7.
I'm glad Baizhu exists though because now I can run Kazuha/Sucrose in Aggravate and have him as the dendro.
Res shred and comfort. It's useful. Though on this one, I'd run Baizhu in his place.
>Archon team
will it really be that much better?
It could consist of nothing but Raiden and Nahida and it'd still kill everything in a flash
no, but you can flex your archons so yes
How hard is the abyss? I’ve been playing for some months now. I usually just login if they’re giving out gems. Thinking about building characters to tackle it.
>5 stacked 5*
It's already a solved problem. You just need to actually build your characters.
Current one is relatively easy. Many of my teams worked and Hu Tao still brute forces the Pyro crab with 100% resistance.
it varies from abyss cycle to abyss cycle like the 3.7 abyss was rather rough if you lacked really good Pyro teams.
if nothing else you only get 600 primos from a full clear and it pro-rates down to however much you can do so even if your characters have ass artifacts you should get at least a fair number of stars.
Current one's not bad for using who you like and going a few times for fun, since it's not a major pain in the ass for once.
Interesting teams.
Back at you, anon. Pretty sweet.
I've tried many more. This abyss has been very fun for experimentation. Still building Childe and gonna try to make him work outside of International.
I have no idea how anyone can consider the Abyss fun. I haven't bothered making new teams in ages because I just use whatever can get it over with the fastest.
Experimentation in this game is way too much of a pain and not rewarding at all.
Sounds like a (you) problem
And I am always right.
when those are your abyss teams it's no wonder you aren't having fun
I didn't have fun before those teams. I made those teams in order to get it over with quickly.
Try reading posts before you respond and make yourself look like a moron.
I'm struggling with the leyline defense in 11-1.
Keep at it, anon. If I can do it, so can you.
Shit, wrong Abyss. lol
Sorry, here's from the current one.
Bennett is the only Pyro character I have remotely built, and he's at L80. My biggest issue is that the leyline takes damage way too fast.
>Taser Childe
>Dehya vape
Damn, I wish I could drop Dehya so I can play this. Thanks for the team ideas anon.
I'm still not gonna do it
That's perfectly fine, anon.
>since it's not a major pain in the ass for once.
I fucking hate you obnoxious tryhards so much.
>4 piss streams from the water things
>maguu kenki
>50,000 robots
Current abyss is still obnoxious and awful, same as ever. Stop trying to get people to waste their time on it. You're not impressing anyone.
NTA but it's definitely much more easy than the last 6 or so cycles. Anybody who regularly gets 30-36 stars could tell you that. Also,
kenki
Single Kenki is pretty easy, and they went even easier by not putting Triple Kenki instead.
Not sure how you got "tryhard" out of me saying I didn't have a hard time with this one. I usually go in, get the stars I can with whatever I want to play and bounce. I couldn't get all the stars last time, so I like the current one. No need to get so angry over nothing.
Wasn't last one even easier? I think you would have had better results swapping Nahida and Al Aitham spots. Nahida is just much better in Niloom and Aitham quickbloom is his best team.
THis was before I realized I neede dto switch Kokomi to full EM Gilded Dreams for more damage. My usual Nilou team probably would've won if I did it now. But I also felt Nahida was needed more on the second side at the time.
My C0 Nahida and Nilou team pulled it off earlier, anon. Follow what that video does for the end parts and you'll make it.
Yeah I don't know what he's talking about. This abyss is still stupidly hard for no reason. I gave up once the crab 2 shot my character.
Fontaine's Abyss seems pretty easy so far. It's saving grace is that Ousia/Pneuma are basically optional mechanics and not necessary at all.
Pretty easy. Had to reset once because YaeMigo got snibbed by the crab when I wasn't paying attention.
How did you do the crab with Yelan? Her burst wasn't hitting the horns so it took forever using aimed shots.
Hyperbloom bruteforce it's that shrimple. Also sometimes the crab animation dips low enough for Yelan to hit it.
I didn't event know it had something I needed to shoot. The shield was dying fast enough so I thought it was just that. Now I can optimise my runs.
The abyss goes from mathematically impossible to a complete faceroll once you have reasonably built characters
it's just a dps check + element check
test
sovl
just need c6 mika now
Yeah sadly my Mika is only C1, maybe I'll get more when I wish for Navia
I was doing some testing with bloodstained/pale and swapping one out for husk
The results were extremely close, like within a few hundred damage and only a 3% difference in crit damage
Post build
Also Masanori is old news, do Vivianne or Ninianne
Damn lumine looks like **THAT??***
built for my selfinsert
But anon, Lumine IS your self-insert.
I would ask for source but guessing it's some paywalled shit as almost anything good that doesn't fuck with proportions almost always are.
Nope, just a game banana mod. The term 'lore-friendly' is what you're looking for. it means mod without changing sizes
>The term 'lore-friendly' is what you're looking for.
No one but you calls it that, anon. lol
retard moment
Wow, the one modder who made up the phrase in the first place. I'm so shocked.
Like I said, nobody.
I need more Yelan
Seems I had to make a fucking account to see all mods, even a bunch of SFW stuff didn't appear without one. I hate the internet so much. Thanks anon.
Just use 10 minute mail anon.
It's not so much needing an email, I just wish everything didn't require signing up but I get it. Managed to find some more mods to add to my collection that weren't visible without an account now at least.
I've been using this for quite a while and it works on all sites I tried it on
https://www.emailondeck.com
Haven't played in a few months, is my Nilou irrelevant in new content or still the meta? Should I start again?
wtf
that was the longest survey i completed and they didn't even gave me a reward
That's far less resin efficient
eosf is really overrated
Hardly, there hasn't been a 4pc set that works on say many different characters since. When people farmed that domain they were farming for like 80% of the characters in the game considering you get Shimenawas at the same time
>noooooo math trannies said this 2+2 pc set is 3% better!
it is better so why would you farm something worse
Because more characters end up using it. Why don't you retards understand what resin efficiency is? The difference is hardly ever worth dumping 10s of thousands of resin into an artifact set that a lot less characters will use
in many cases there's little efficient of farming 2 mid sets instead of 2 good sets
ESL bro, want to rephrase that sentence so it actually makes sense?
>grammar nazi
I accept your concession
Asking for a sentence that actually makes some sense and doesn't leave people confused as to what the fuck you're trying to say isn't the same as being a grammar nazi
Redo IELTS before posting here
i understood what he meant
you might be retarded if you didn't
>in many cases there's little efficient of farming 2 mid sets instead of 2 good sets
I'm still trying to make sense of this. Is he implying that farming Emblem somehow isn't efficient?
I need some spreadsheet fags to explain to how farming for most of the characters in the game somehow isn't efficient, but farming for 2 or 3 characters somehow is
Swap of to "in", retard
And yet he's still fucking wrong. Mathfags, where's the explanation?
I'll just let you cope with your "3%" inferiority, spreadsheet moron. No point trying to convince someone who can't do math.
So you can't explain how farming for a small handful of characters is more resin efficient than farming for most of the characters in the game at once? I accept your concession
>why would you farm for characters you use??
Common sense you lack.
>Farm Emblem
>end up farming for Rational, International, and Hu Tao/Yoimiya double hydro all at the same time
>more & more Characters
>nothing to do with them
>they dont even do powercreeping
Spiral Abyss with 3 Teams when?
never
shut up
Soon bro. Mihoyo already tested it during a previous event.
in which people mentioned they didn't have enough characters to complete it in survey i hope
Will Furina be busted? She's like a patch away. Is there leaks? So far I'm just saving for Arlecchino I guess.
>best element in the game
>archon of said best element in the game
Yeah, it's safe to say that she'll be busted
Probably. No leaks until 4.2 beta starts which is still almost 3 weeks away. Earliest release date for Furina is november first but not actually confirmed.
Anon, we're still in 4.0. You're not getting actual Furina leaks until we're midway into 4.1
Retard bro we're getting Furina leaks right when 4.1 starts because the 4.2 beta starts at the same time
You mean like how people were still getting Wrio wrong when 4.0 dropped and actual WebMs showing what he and Neuvi could do didn't show up for like two weeks?
Yeah, nah. Halfway through. People are too damn slow.
She's an Archon, she's gonna get a lot more attention than a couple mediocre DPSs
We've got Wrio and Neuvi videos one or two days after 4.0 started if not the same day, so what the fuck are you on about ?
drip marketing when?
What will happen first: Tartaglia betrays Snezhnaya or Kaeya betrays Mondstadt?
>Kaeya betrays Mondstadt
that lacks logic
Kaeya won't betray Mondstadr. He'll betray Khaenriah and get plot injured for it. The Play route of his hangout pretty much proves that
>Kaeya betrays Mondstadt
That would make him an actually interesting character so no, that won't happen
Furina leak at the end of the month probably
>CCs telling people to farm GD/DW domain still
There will be so many people bricked when Furina comes around and they haven't been farming the newest domain.
I don't think the newest domain is worth farming over the previous hydro/hp domain but we'll see. Pretty sure 2+2 will be best for at least Neuv, Wrio seems to want that new normal attack set though.
I like Ayaka and Shenhe but is worth rolling on them to make a team nowadays? Or should I just get the newer characters?
100% get new characters. I have Ayaka's BIS team. It's a strict rotation gameplay and I don't recommend it in 2023 where dendro teams can play fast and loose exist.
Ayaka is a pretty safe bet I think but she has some drawbacks and without her weapon her damage is really powercrept. Shenhe is a must skip.
Ayala is still alright but she only has one team and needs a lot of investment into artifacts and weapons. Shenhe is worth it if you're really into Ayaka.
>Shenhe is worth it if you're really into Ayaka.
no she isn't
Should have said Shenhe is ONLY worth it if you're into Ayaka
She just isn't worth it unless your Ayaka is c6.
Im not the original anon, but ill bite, who and why? rosaria?
Shenhe just doesn't bring enough to the team to be worth it over other characters. The exception being if you whale for either her c6 or Ayaka's c6. Or if you get Shenhe's c1, then she might eke out some alternatives but even then you just double invested into a mid character.
Quick example. Let's say your big dick Shenhe somehow adds 20k damage to Ayaka's attacks, 7 of them. That's 140k single target damage right?
What if you brought Hutao into the party and melted her burst once? That's going to be more than 140k damage and it's AOE, and she other wise has no synergy in the team yet she's still bringing more than Shenhe. If you want cryo resonance you can just use anyone else and not really suffer for it. Ganyu being the best pic for damage and Diona being good for shield/energy/heal.
I want to be really into Shenhe.
I'd recommend the new characters honestly. I haven't used my Ayaka and Shenhe freeze team since I got Nahida. Freeze teams still take a significant amount of investment, but it's still more investment than bloom and aggravate teams, and they also don't even do as well as bloom and aggravate teams. I'm hoping Furina gives a boost to freeze teams.
No point in farming EOSF if you don't have characters or want characters that use it, now matter how "efficient" it is, especially if you need artifacts for characters that you do use.
There is no universal optimal calculation. It's all based around account state and personal desire.
>if you don't have characters or want characters that use it
That's like most of the cast, and you get Shimenawa's at the same time as well which can be used on plenty of others. There's a reason why it was the most farmed artifact domain until Sumeru came out
Point is what good is EOSF if some newfag joined around the Sumeru bloc and need DW/GD for their Nahida/Alhaitham. They might not even have or care about old characters that use EOSF.
EOSF is efficient if the account has or want the characters that use it. It isn't if the account doesn't.
Newfags are screwed either way, but plenty of T0 characters are burst dependant and can benefit from Emblem
Maybe if you're only using Spread/Aggravate teams then sure it loses value, but damn near everyone who 36 stars the Abyss (the only place where strong artifacts matter) uses some form of National
And even in some Dendro teams that need off field hydro, characters like Xingqiu and Yelan can benefit from Emblem
It's a matter of putting resin to appropriate use contextualized to their account. Newfags should farm EOSF "eventually" to give their roster depth but if they don't have the characters that use it "now" then it's pointless to have 1000 emblems sitting in their inventory while their Sumeru characters are poorly built. Besides, it's not like they can't just farm new sets and then trickle the junk down to EOSF.
It all circles back to who they have, where their account is at, and what do they want.
Bro everyone has Xiangling and Bennett
>B use noblesse
Which you can get from the Strongbox. You can get Emblem from the Strongbox too, and that's honestly where you should be dumping all of your trash pieces
As a newfag I got a set for xl and xq without ever touching that domain thanks to the strongbox, its not amazing (55cr, 100 something CD), but at least its something, not like a C0 xiangling or xq even do that much damage mind you, people overvalue them at low constelations in my opinion
No you dont, I didn't even have kuki for a long time, dendro allowed me to catch up so I did need more than one deepwood set (one with full EM and another with ER, while getting a balanced one for an aggravate character and pieces for fischl on the way to the full EM set, call it training wheels but dendro and nahida at least have let me complete combat events where everyone complains about how easy they are while I can barely scrape by
The only 2 sets you need for Dendro teams are 4pc Deepwood for the dendro shred, and a full EM Gilded Dreams for Kuki
Bait
Nilou is objectively the most attractive female in the game
Imagine a scenario where some newfag joined at the beginning of Sumeru. They got Nahida, Collei, DMC, Alhaitham. There is absolutely no reason for them to touch emblem no matter how efficient it is because they need to build those characters for there here and now. They can just recycle the junk into EOSF.
The premise behind EOSF efficiency is based on the assumption of the """theorycrafter's""" own desire, account progress, supposition about how the game is """supposed""" to be played. It's rooted in their own bias which could and probably is a complete departure from the newfag's experience, especially if they joined in Fontaine who may not even need to touch old characters depending how the new characters are.
Theory crafters are the ones telling you to use 2+2 pieces for a specific character because it's slightly better than Emblem. That was what this entire argument was about, 2+2 Xingqiu vs Emblem Xingqiu
It's a lot better.
It isn't
Yes it is.
40k upfront damage is better than a potential 41k downhill damage. That's basically the only difference ignoring the ER requirements(which in XQ's case don't really matter since he uses sac)
That's like 1-2 volley of rainswords, and that shit's up for the entire rotation
>potentially
More like all the time if you're not a total shitter. It's job is to also enable vapes so of course you want thay shit up all the time
>2x is better than Emblem
Who is this so I can block their channel?
lost /gig/tards
newcuties shouldn't farm artifacts. By the time they reach AR45, they will have enough characters and should focus according to their needs. Emblem is better to quickly build teams to ok levels( %ER and extra damage), after that, you farm for your DPS.
>XQ damage!!!!!!!!!!
He's just there to sprinkle water and make sure my characters don't get knocked around. His damage is pathetic no matter what you do.
oh really
>damage per screenshot build featuring multiple R5s
I snooze
His kick is the strongest part of his kit.
You might be illiterate. Upfront > downhill. Upfront damage means your enemy dies faster. And it isn't all the time because if you aren't a shitter your enemies die long before Xingqiu's burst ends. And you don't usually hit every enemy with every sword. Xingqiu whiffs a ton of his attacks.
>It's job is to also enable vapes
And to vape. You're using him wrong.
Gonna post something that isn't chink whales?
It's a 4 star character, even if he has r5 he's only doing 20% more damage than you.
>only
No dude your tony to clips are literally meaningles
He's using Sacrificial Sword and Amber you fucking mongoloids what the fuck are you talking about whales for?
Yeah a fucking Aquila Benny, Mona, and Skyward Amber in like the first Abyss. I'm sure even my Emblem Xingqiu can do that against 2 ruin guards, but no f2p was doing that in 1.0-1.3
You can do the budget version of that with Sapwood Blade Bennett, Mona, Instructor's Amber with any (probably Favonious) bow and still get big dick damage with how you can vape easily off Amber's burst pyro application.
Yeah, yeah, not everyone is Tony the r5 damage per screenshot whale. Especially the average Genshiner. That advice to go 2x is completely useless for 99% of the playerbase.
No anon you don't get it, you're just using him wrong! Your'e supposed to be spending tens of thousands on R5 weapons and perfect artifacts for meme nukes!
Yeah that was this specific Abyss, all the way from 1.3. For reference this was before Hu Tao was even announced as a playable character in Genshin
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Spiral_Abyss/Floors/2021-02-16
So yes, a whale showcase and not relevant for how most people use Xingqiu. You can also do even more damage by quad melting Chongyun's burst, but no body does that because everyone prefers the easist way to do more damage
This is why National and Hyperbloom are the most popular teams, and people who want easy teams also want to spend the least effort farming them instead of being min-maxing blowhards in a phone game for kids
There's nothing about it that a completely f2p casual couldn't get. You are in extreme damage control.
Go ahead and do that in the current Abyss. Post your own videos this time instead of some chink whale's
>go ahead and do my damage control for me
I accept your concession.
You can't post your own videos? Surely you play the game and have a skill focused Xingqiu built, right?
I cant do that and im f2poor, what are you even going on about?, do you have a magic formula to make my C1 xq do damage?
Yeah he does its whale
How do you whale on Xingqiu?
5 star weapon at max refinement
He uses sacrificial sword.
Still waiting for your video
You already conceded, you're just being a sore loser.
>it looks like a Sacrificial Sword
I can make any weapon look like the sacrificial sword in just few minutes of copy-pasting
Mistsplitter Benny, Elegy Amber, max refresh daily resin for perfect artifacts
none of those were in any of the comparisons
Your comparisons, sorry Tony To's comparisons, are from 1.3 and not relevant to today's discussion. Still waiting for your Xingqiu btw
Hilarious cope.
There is no secret, if your XQ isn't vaping like that you're doing something wrong. Namely you took the retard pill and farmed a dumb set for him.
>he still can't post his own videos
This is fucking pathetic. Go back to /gig/
>he still wants me to do his damage control for him
Imagine being so desperate that you're arguing that having a Sacrificial Sword is whaling
Where are your own videos? Surely you play the game, right?
What a sad hill to die on.
Still can't post any of your own videos? Are you going to keep reposting 3 year old Bilibili clips that don't belong to you?
If you're putting this much effort into shilling a skill focused Xingqiu build, it must mean you actually play the game and have a skill focused Xingqiu yourself
Afterall, who would be mentally ill enough to engage in this sort of discussion about a game they don't play?
Well, can you show me the setup beyond these videos?, what are the stats and cons?, can my C1 xq do this?, I need to know
You have to have c4 to do that precisely, that constellation is s a flat 50% increase of his skill damage(opposed to normal dmg % modifiers which aren't flat increases). For his stats you need at least 170% ER which is pretty easy to get then you just put stuff into atk/crit/elementalmastery.
Ah crap, thanks for being straightforward, its very hard for anons to be forthcoming with this, until then I shouldn't expect good numbers even when invested right?, better just to treat him as a strong hydro applicator with decent damage right?
50% less than those clips where he was doing 100k crits yeah. He's still good, it's just that his c4 and the talent constellation just make him that much more broken. The 900k clip was from when Abyss had a really stupid buff that boosted elemental damage.
Not talking about xq, but nowadays how viable are hydro vape setups outside childe?, are they too much of a hassle to setup and I should stick to diluc / tanfei / hutao being the ones vaping?
Yelan vape is great and really easy to setup, Mona and XQ are more of a pain. Neuvilette is coming out and he'll be good in national in Xingqiu's place.
Guess this is my cue to bide my time until furina releases, Ill keep coping with my shitty medium invest characters and team before finally starting to crown and farm artifacts seriously after she releases
I don't think she'll be vaping but we'll see.
you're right, but if she's a support I bet she'll compliment my xq nicely, and in the best scenario even replace him altogether
You didn't answer me though, can you do it without 5* weapons on the others?, what is the secret?, you seem just like any other shitposter that just speaks out of their own ass
post your vid bro, it's easy, you don't need to whale.
did they divine the original video's damage by about 10?
You bros done messed up now
We gettin' money, cars, clothes
And we might just bag yo' hoes, real trap season
Nilotpala lotus are such a pain to farm wtf I just want to make a chonky layler
Bro, your Nahida ?
There’s a big cluster of them in two areas, you can farm them pretty quickly by just using those two places over and over by entering peoples worlds.
If I am adventure rank 41 what level should my characters/artifacts be?
Just use whatever artifacts you have, level your flower and don't think too hard about it until AR45
As long as you can play through the story it doesn't matter. Artifacts only matter if you're trying to 36* abyss. And you won't do that anytime soon anyway.
CONCESSION!!!
Honest question
How do I force myself to stop using Kuki? It's been so long that I can't be bothered to toss food into my mouth instead of pressing E and getting 3k heals per second
I want to try different team compositions but feel naked without her as a healer and lesser electro applier
You use Kuki for healing? She's pretty much replaced my Xiangling for most used 4 star sub DPS
Just use THAT
Kuki is fine to use as a healer, but almost everyone here is going to bitch she isn't built full EM instead to trigger Hyperbloom.
NTA but my Kuki is built with EM and she still heals 3k by tick.
As a full EM bot or does she actually do damage when you invest into her talents?
her heals scale with EM though?
"Heart's Repose
Talent Description
Sanctifying Ring's abilities will be boosted based on Shinobu's Elemental Mastery:
・Healing amount will be increased by 75% of Elemental Mastery.
・DMG dealt is increased by 25% of Elemental Mastery. "
My 900 EM kuki does 3k per tick healing
2x XQ is the weirdest hill to die on t b h
Now post a video from 4.0
These 2 haven't even spoken in game. Why the fuck are Twichuds shipping them?
They're shipping characters from a waifu/husbando collector gacha game where everyone are decent friends at best and strangers at worst where all of them only like (You). They were stupid from the beginning, anon. It's hopw shippers work. It's not about what's actually there, but about what they want to see. Especially if it has no chance of happening.
>w*stern lesbian art that isn’t ugly
uh
I've fapped a lot to the girls but never touched the game. However, I'm thinking about starting to play it (not really a fan of open world games tho).
But I don't plan to ever spend money on the game, so how fucked I am with regards to getting characters etc.? Do I just go back to consuming porn?
As long as you don't expect to get every single 5 star, it's a very forgiving game. You'll most likely get most 4 stars and a decent number of 5 stars as a f2p, more than you'll ever be able to build and use
Game got big because poorfaggies can play and get characters, just not as many as paypiggies.
Just try it out. You get a bunch of free characters. You don't need to spend money to beat any of the content in the overworld, but you will need to spend time to build your team. Its a very pretty game and very casual overall
It’s an easy game and generally speaking you don’t *need* anyone. Just pull for those few characters who really catch your eye and ignore the rest. Hyper focusing on meta is a great way to stop enjoying the game.
>latefag
Go back to watching porn, you are never gonna make it.
newfags haven't missed anything, fuck off
Current free characters (not counting the ones they give out for free every other patch)
>Amber
>Kaeya
>Lisa
>Barbara
>Noelle (guaranteed from tutorial)
>Xiangling
>Collei
>Lynette
+ your Traveler character who can swit h between hydro, electro, geo, dendro (leaf) or anemo (air)
He can also get Benny if he starts very soon.
Doubt he has time before the event ends, he'd need to speed run mond and go straight to Fontaine. Its not that big of a deal he can always get Benny in the starglitter shop
Oh right I forgot that you needed to be a certain AR to do events.
Whoever uses this character deserves to be castrated while conscious.
>chinese man punching monitor.gif
Imagine if Paimon had a normal voice.
Hydro e-boi when?
Literally soon
>imagine I posted an image of Siegwinne
They'll stick her on a rerun banner, no way she's coming in 4.2
I'm fully expecting her to be on yet another banner I will never touch like every other 4* for over a year has been now, but it would be nice if just once Mihoyo weren't complete gays with their banners.
TGS/4.2 drip marketing is roughly 2 weeks.
Since SIgewinne isn't in 4.1 I really hope she's paired with Furina in 4.2.
The EOSF coper is really sad.
Just try it
Nyo
ToT
uhh bros?
>going achievement hunting
>oh ok got all the toki alley besides V-
>it requires fucking fishing
>not only that its a 2% chance
well im never fucking getting this achievement
Well you're going to need to catch 2000 fish for that 1 achievement, you'll probably get it while working towards that
Is it possible to catch toki pages outside Inazuma?
No, they're inazuma only. After getting the Sumeru bow and Fontaine sword from fishing, I suggest catching the rest of the fish in Inazuma for the 2000 fish acheivement
I did it over a couple months during lunch breaks on my phone, got all of the pages while doing it
I don't know if this is true, but I heard it from others + it was the same for me: you can only get 1 page per day so stop fishing when you get one.
That's how it went for the other 5 pages I had to fish up, the first half was done a while back so I forget. Can anybody confirm?
I hit all 10 pages by the time I hit like 1200 fish, having only fished in Mond/Liyue before for what had been necessary.
I remember getting lucky on 2 pages and received them in very close succession fishing at a spot one day, so pretty sure its false.
Well then, I wish I'd been less of a lucklet, guess I heard that and wanted to believe it because getting a page a couple fishing spots in and then nothing for the rest of Inazuma really made me wish I'd gone and done something else.
Luckily it only took 1 region for h*yo to cut that shit out.
God why is Xiao such an edgelord
Is there really any point in starting another thread before this one is archived
can somebody explain?
How does this do so much damage?
I can't even hit 400k with c2 raiden
https://youtube.com/shorts/Su1e-cxcgDc?si=D6cgSVicUuvuY22Q
you need godlike artifacts to reach that lvl. anything below 45cv is trash
he has food buffs retards
retarded of retard in retarded department
Closing reminder