Genwunners are literally the plague of the pokemon fanbase and responsible for the absolute pathetic state of the game at the moment, starting with ge...

Genwunners are literally the plague of the pokemon fanbase and responsible for the absolute pathetic state of the game at the moment, starting with gen 5 remakes.
>Gamefreak tries to do something original in gen5 with no old mons in regional dex, rebooted route numbers, ect
>genwunners cry and scream and drop BW2, even though it added a bunch of obligatory genwunner mons
>Gamefreak panics and X/Y comes out super pozzed
>Full of pandering to genwunners including genwunner shitmons being obligatory additions to every game gen 6 fowards.
>never get a region without at least half old mons going forwards, most of which will be obligatory gen 1 shitmons like Charizard
>noticeable reduction in difficulty going forward and abandon of the postgame easy/challenge modes
>new gimmick battle mechanic every generation
>type rebalancing and a new type in response to bitching, which isnt a problem but is huge move for gamefreak
How do we get out of this shit timeline where every game is gonna be full of genwunner bait and shitty mechanics?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just do what I did and abandon every game outside of gens 3-5 and play actually good games (read: non-Pokemon games)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you even here at this point?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Spite

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Spite for what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For GameFreak and the people who continue to hate on the acceptable games in the franchise

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s pathetic man, just ignore them and move on with your life. Not worth it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >must defend gamefreak!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally a critique of gamefreak making retarded choices in response to genwunners crying like entitled children. Are you stupid?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >NOO THE FACELESS COMPANY QAS MADE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF X
        Retard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bad sales makes company do things
          >this is apparently a hard concept to grasp

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no you have to make 20m at the end of a systems life when it's successor is on the market
            Keep making excuses

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Series peaked at Silver.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    did the facebook groups really influence GF that hard?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      less so the facebook groups are moreso the huge dip in sales that B2W2 had, and it was basically all because genwunners were malding they couldn't have zubat maingame or whatever the fuck else got their chud panties twisted around their balls. Gen 6 was the only ever significant game design direction change to address a direct loss of sales in pokemon franchise history

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and it was basically all because genwunners were malding they couldn't have zubat maingame or whatever the fuck else got their chud panties twisted around their balls

        It was because a lot of Gen V Pokemon look like shit and barely anything was added to the formula, just hidden abilities and a LOT of power creep.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean I would argue that there didn't really need to be much added mechanically after physical/special split

          the only real problem abilities in gen 5 were the weather abilities and yea those were busted

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is not just abilities and I'm not really talking as much about Smogon. Pokemon like the 3 Genies (2 forms each and all broken except the bird), Volcarona, Hydreigon, Excadrill, Conkelldur, and Whimsicott all basically permanently raised the power level necessary for a mon to be good and have no real flaws for what they're designed to do outside the basic "it's weak to type X" shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Weather wars was a thing in VGC too, if you remember what those teams looked like they were stupid heavy skewed towards either sand or sun.

              I don't think gen 5 was the worst for powercreeped pokemon, it just introduced the most of them, so it had a disproportionate effect. The likes of Blissey, Snorlax, Garchomp, Ttar, and the like were all insanely centralizing in their day. I don't think a single gen 5 pokemon comes close to how bad Gen 4 Chomp or gen 2 Blissey/Skarm were

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't do competitive, but hasn't Landorus Therian been so monumental that he's basically on EVERY modern competitive team?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, but it wasn't near as bad as gen 4 garchomp or curselax or OG skarmbliss. Its just still a problem because GF wont fix it. Garchomp arguably created the fairy type because of bitching that dragons were OP

                >gen 2 Blissey/Skarm were
                SkarmBliss it meta, but was overshadowed by Curselax durign Gen2 like everything else.

                true, but those teams ran Curselax too

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gen 2 Blissey/Skarm were
                SkarmBliss it meta, but was overshadowed by Curselax durign Gen2 like everything else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gen 2 Blissey/Skarm
                Who the fuck cares Gen 2 wasn't built for balanced multiplayer

                >Garchomp
                Was also a power creeping mistake but it was an exception.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll be honest, the franchise fucked itself. Now keep up with me because I'm about to say something very controversial: if the series had stuck to its guns in gen 3 and had moved on without a national dex, making games that feature a curated selection of old and new instead of always bringing back old pokemon, they could have weaned out the genwunners way earlier. They would have dropped the franchise because muh pidgey isn't in, the fanbase would be left with the people who just enjoy the games for what they are, and game freak wouldn't have felt the need to constantly pander. As an added bonus, less dev time would be allocated to backwards compatibility and BBND would have never happened.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You make a lot of sense, especially considered how ass blasted some fans are about the dex cut in gen 8 and on

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gen V is a soulless garbage Kanto rip off

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      spotted the genwunner freak, eveyone point and laugh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kys
      gen 5 is better than anything kanto ever did

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You didn't actually point out the bad thing genwunners caused.

    >WAAAAAAAAAH CHARIZARD SHOWS UP MORE IN GAMES
    yeah? and?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't read, so I wont bother to explain it again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did read. All you did was sperg out over non-issues like Pokemon showing up in a Pokemon game and cry about difficulty even though the newest games are on average more difficult than the older ones.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my point is that if genwunner shitmons like Charizard don't show up maingame, genwunners will cry and scream.

          There's a reason that 75% of mons added to B2W2 after the "only gen 5 pokemon in the regional dex" controversy in BW were gen 1 rather than the other three they could've chosen. Its because those people were bitching about Gamefreak not reusing old designs maingame

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >my point is that if genwunner shitmons like Charizard don't show up maingame, genwunners will cry and scream.
            Where were the genwunners crying and screaming about RSE, DPPt, and PLA not having Charizard available during the campaign?
            Why do Unovafags always try to use this boogieman when it doesn't work?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              RSE got critiqued for not having older mons in it too, really hard.
              >but muh charizard
              DPPt were stuffed to the gills with either evolutions or babies of genwun mons or genwun mons. Same with PLA. Charizard's just the meme that represents the concept

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so you're not even bitching over charizard, you're bitching over pokemon fans enjoying pokemon showing up in pokemon games instead of shitty cartoon network reskins of old pokemon like gen 5. Yep, you're definitely not an autistic zoomer unova fanboy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >immediate ad hominem
                This series deserves its death lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dropping a gen of the game that displays predominantly its own pokemon maingame instead of 50% mons from other gens, and introduced more pokemon than any other gen
                >despite the fact its all available post game and post game routes have a huge amount of old mons
                stop being such an autist, learn to play 1 game without pidgey and pikachu

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE LIKE SEEING MARIO AND LUIGI IN MARIO GAMES INSTEAD OF BLARIO AND BLUIGI

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dishonest post

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it was only Charizard so what's the issue
              That anon mentioned 'zard as an example. RSE, DPPt, and PLA all included multitudes of Gen 1 Pokemon in their regional dex, while BW1 had only Unova before postgame. Not even Pikachu. This, in addition to the fact personal transfers was postgame as well, is what they mean by genwunners kicking and screaming about having to use new Pokemon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                at the time RSE got criticized for not having enough genwun mons too, and people forget that, despite having like 10-12ish lines of kanto mons available maingame, partially because only a few of them were available super early game

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are barely any genwunners anymore since go introduced normies to pokemon past their childhood nostalgia

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gen 5
    >remakes

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything past gen 5 is unfortunately still pokemon

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reduction in difficulty going forward and abandon of the postgame easy/challenge modes
    >>new gimmick battle mechanic every generation
    >>type rebalancing and a new type in response to bitching, which isnt a problem but is huge move for gamefreak
    and these are because of KantoGODS, how exactly? they're the ones that complain the most about them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every single one of those only exists to make CHARIZARD more broken and overpowered

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After gen 5 they wanted to widen their appeal because the fanbase was so willing to drop the sequels because B/W didn't suck Kanto cock 24/7, so they dumbed the series down and tried to give it extremely broad normie appeal

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The worst part is considering much hate Gen2 gets for "leaning on Kanto" and "being glorified DLC" to the point were even TPC treats Johto like the black sheep of this shit franchise, you'd think that everyone would be happy that Unova did the smart thing focused on its own Pokémon and characters, but instead people bitch because they had to use the NEW Pokémon in the NEW region, what a nightmare!

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >going forward
    >Going forward
    >Going forward
    Why do amerimutts like this phrase so much? It doesn't make you sound smarter. You're right though.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gen 6 is better than gen 5 and if you're saying my skipping gen 5 made it happen then you're welcome

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    genwunners are barely even a thing anymore since pokemon go, you're arguing with ghosts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How new?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're the new one, probably got into the games during gen 3/4/5 and are trying to look for some kind of scapegoat for why the series has turned to shit when the reality is Gamefreak is just incompetent and should never have transitioned to 3D
        people that experienced pokemania (a requirement for being a genwunner) now fall into 3 categories
        >continued playing the series and being a fan past gen 3
        >stopped playing the games after pokemania died but got back into the series with pokemon go and slowly introduced to and became ok with new pokemon
        >dont care because they have 3 kids and more important shit to worry about

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          none of the post in the OP even mentions 3D, its about every pokemon game being stuffed full of mandatory genwunnerbait, with 50% of the regional dexes being unoriginal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemon go came out after gen 6

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every thread is just the same 3 retards deepthroating every weak bait post they see

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >remakes
    You mean BW3, right?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they replaced Zubat with Woobat!

    That's cute. But Gen 5 is still a traditional Pokemon game at the end of the day. Borts need to understand this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody said it wasn't though, only that even the most miniscule of changes pissed Pokemorons off

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >noticeable reduction in difficulty going forward and abandon of the postgame easy/challenge modes
    USUM are the hardest mainline games in the franchise and SM are harder than every first version that came before it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      USUM are the exceptions to the rule. X/Y, ORAS, SwSh, and Lets Go were all disgustingly easy even by pokemon standards. SM was average

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >X/Y, ORAS, SwSh, and Lets Go were all disgustingly easy even by pokemon standards
        not really

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no u
          Ok then

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This franchise is overdue for death, for its fans deserve nothing

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