>Get starfield
>Wanna build a starship
>Ship parts super expensive, have to spend a ton of time going to random planets, looting a base and taking the stuff, going back to ship, flying back to port, sell my stuff
>Repeat x50 to get 200000 credits
>Can't build a ship cause 90% of parts are locked behind a perk you need to be like level 30 to get cause it's an advanced perk and all perks are tiered and require points to level up rather than getting a perk and doing the challenges to level the perk up automatically
Does this game really expect me to get to like level 100 to build a spaceship
Wait for the cheat room mod
It's wierd how nobody has found it yet.
they will have to rewrite the enemy ship AI to fix that, will probably break the game if they do that.
>It's wierd how nobody has found it yet.
its the same command as every other game
coc qasmoke
its just this time for what ever reason Bethesda decided to not fill it with cheat room stuff
Weird. Wierd isn't a word.
The better parts are just higher stat versions of the lower parts, it's the structural parts that add flavor and design to a ship mostly. You also had a plethora of options to make money, quests to do, cities to explore, ways to play and you did boring grind shit. I think that says more about you than the game.
>cities to explore
the grind is the whole game
Todd, is that you?
>cities to explore
There are 3 cities to explore. 3.
Nah there's some smaller towns as well like Gagarin, Hopetown and Cydonia
And Paradiso, The Key, Red Mile, New Homestead, plus some even smaller settlements.
>plus some even smaller settlements
I've found ones I've not seen anyone mention yet, like the retreat way out in the high level systems.
At least 4 not counting space stations
Atlantis
Hopetown
Neon
Cowboy place
can you even do anything with spaceship designs? can you optimize for anything? does it even matter?
>does it even matter?
If you roleplay, obviously yes e.g. I became totally autistic with smuggling and without my current ship build I wouldn't be able to play this way
Can you actually buy contraband goods other than aurora?
you can run contraband missions for the crimson fleet
Ah swell, I keep putting the whole questline off.
theres a lot of places to get contraband if you go into the prison/security offices theres usually a contraband chest you can lockpick the generated dungeons/labs or whatever suually have contraband also. ive made quite a lot of money from it. im thinking of setting up outposts to make aurora and then smuggling that think it would be kino
>setting up a whole outpost to make aurora
That's kino RP. I'm going to do this on a way out bumfuck world.
Regarding stealing shit
Getting HIDDEN status from cameleon effect while you would otherwise be visible doesnt count towards stealing items
i dont have any of the magic i haven't touched the main quest at all, items being marked as stolen doesn't really effect anything anyway
Chameleon is a random modifier that you can find of high rarity equipment.
oh nice guess its fairly rare ive not seen any although ive not done too muich of the generated labs etc jsut been doing sidequests. maybe ill go do a bunch see what loot i can get
Want a smuggling trick?
Build outpost on a planet where you'll be unloading your contraband
You can land on your outpost before you get scanned
You drop your hot cargo in the outpost get yo orbit again and get scanned
Then when you land again and pick your contraban back up you dont get scanned a second time when getting back to orbit and you can safely land in settlement with no risk of getting caught
you can get 100% contraband hiding chance anyway, at the key even at lowest level ship building you can get things that add 10% concealment chance you can put as many of these as you want on your ship
Wait, those stack?
yeah i have 6 of them on my ship currently and my concealment chance is 59%
Where can I check my concealment chance?
Also do you unlock better shielded cargo modules with levels? Im somewhere between 20 and 30 currently
it tells you the chance when you enter a planet and get scanned, might only show up if you have ocntraband on you im not sure, yeah there are some that gives higher percentages not sure how much higher, in the key ship builder there were 3 of the concelament things and 2 were greyed out for me
> Does it matter?
> If you pretend that it matters, yes
Literally every MMO and Final Fantasy game in existence
Well shit, that makes it fine then.
Literally life itself
Anon tell me one reason that video games matter as a whole.
I'll wait.
How do ship builds help with contraband? I thought it was entirely determined by that perk
You can get shielded cargo holds and scan jammers that help you avoid detection
Oh shit, that's pretty neat
is it?
Or you could just offload all contraband at free ports like the Den, the Key and the Red Mile.
Its a fucking video game what do you mean does it matter? Are you fucking stupid? This is not real life!
real life doesn't matter either
yes, this isn't real life you stupid fucking autistic morongay, that's why you can make choices with zero real life consequences you stupid fuckwit
Literal Andy in the thread
Yes.
A combat-optimized ship can run circles around the average player ship, vaporize enemies in seconds and do it all at a fraction of the cost.
Even when building a generalist ship there are some considerations and trade-offs to consider.
Here's the strongest ship possible
Soul...
>2 reactors
thats modded
It isn't. He just left out the failed Flight Check from the screenshot.
Nah. It actually works.
ok, borg queen, go home, you're drunk. don't make me call admiral janeway on you.
Kingdom Hearts 2bros... we are SO back.
i was gonna say it but then you did.
it's beautiful bro...
Kingdom Hearts 2 mind
Legit what I’ve wanted to do since I started the game, make a ship with a hole in the center so it never gets hit. How much does this cost and is there anyway to make a circle
Just building wings in an L shape is enough to fuck with the AI
This is my latest, I call it the grasshopper. I am only on class B ships as I don't cheat on skills but I do give myself enough money to make a modest ship without grinding
>that many engines
thats modded
I think those are just 4 engines.
Yup it was just 4, I could put another on but then taht would exceed power limits w/ best calss B reactor
>prebuilt ship
>prebuilt pc
Yep it's gaming time
Could always console command your way to victory
>He doesn't know about the magnet crafting tech
You can level infinitely for free, takes only a few minutes per level.
Qrd?
just use console commands if youre gonna exploit levels lmao
Find a planet with cobalt and nickel, mine it, sleep, craft magnets, repeat.
Why can't I rename my ship? It accepts it in the ship builder but when I confirm it just defaults back to its randomly assigned name.
must be a bug unless youre not saving at the end of your build
t. flying the tcg anadolu
It's an already known bug. I flew the "Crimson Fleet Commander" for a long time since it was my most expensive build and I didn't find out I couldn't change the name until after it was built.
I had ships I COULD rename but seemingly not that one.
I renamed the mantis ship
im still flying around in the default one i recolored and renamed to the thxdock
Thanks doc
Yes
Interior is a direct result of parts (habs particularly) used and their configuration
What I want to know is what determines door/bulkhead layout
It seems fucking random when uou have bunch of habs glued in a block
>It seems fucking random when uou have bunch of habs glued in a block
It IS pretty random if you leave it up to the game.
There is a way to exert some control.
So in ship builder, instead of dragging a hab to place it, hover over the connection point you want a door, and hit attach, then scroll to the hab you want there. If you see the 2x1 flip that means the doorway can only be on that part of the hab, it will never generate a doorway on the other. So for example, the captains quarters and the armory will often not connect, even side by side because the captains quarters door wants to be at the front, and the armory door wants to be at the back. I THINK you can force that connection if there are NO other connections to either of those sections, but I haven't tried it.
I isolated a 2 story ship this way. The whole bottom section was only connected at one point to the top. But this does mean that you can't have a hallway with evenly spaced doors on either side without some careful planning.
Just mod that shit out
When can I build my own ship? How far into the game do I have to progress? Level 7 currently.
just talk to the guy in the hard hat stood next to the TA terminal at New Atlantis
>talk to the guy in the hard hat
this game is so fucking lazy
Workers in the future don't have to protect their craniums?
Cry about it fag, every fallout game was like that. I hate you gays that think this was going to be anything other than Fallout in space. It’s just a single player destiny
just do the rangers questline and you will get a ship you can tear apart and rebuild with some good parts
the amount of effort they put in the modular ship builder for it to be just a loading screen ornament, is genuinely hilarious.
you can't even store parts or move parts to other ships and you have to paint every part of your ship individually
and you can't paint your guns
> you have to paint every part of your ship individually
That isn't true. On PC at least if you double click a part it will highlight them all allowing you paint it all at once.
>player.additem f 99999999
100% of starfield players are homo
100% starfield haters are brown
maybe you should ask more people than your wife boyfriend
100% starfield haters are NTR fags too
What are your favorite ice cream anon?
It's a next-gen game, you wouldn't understand.
I like how expensive things are the the level of commitment you need, incentive to be a hustler bustler or industrialist build, start your own business ect.
>incentive to be a hustler bustler or industrialist build, start your own business ect.
You mean kill bandits and sell their guns right? That's the only way to make money in the game. Are you just doing that, but in your head you're pretending like you're doing some cool space business stuff?
That's not the best way to make money lol, unless you specifically take all the merchant perks allowing you to sell loot for better prices
Just boarding a ship and taking the credits in the cargo storage and captain's vault will get you several thousands of credits, smuggling illegal goods will also get you several thousands of credits in one go
Radiant space trucking quest and bounty hunter quests and the likes is also a quick way to get a lot of money
Or you could have a mini-factory just output industrial parts and then haul out 64k worth of goods every time you visit.
Whatever seems fun for you.
Outposts are money printers if you spend the time (and perks) to set them up.
Build excavation outposts to mine raw materials, send them to another one that churns out whatever expensive crafting components you have the resources for. As you get more advanced you can use those components to build pricier components instead. It's like a really dumbed down Satisfactory.
You can even raise alien livestock to slaughter for resources or build greenhouses.
The hard part is finding a system that has everything you need.
It's all just for making money though. There's no point to it otherwise. You don't need to do this to get crafting components for actual crafting. They give you so many of them I started just ignoring them. Plus guns and stuff's value eventually outstrips vendor's ability to pay you. Most vendors carry 5000 credits which resets every day. But I routinely had guns worth 13000 or more with only one point in commerce.
So money is easy to come by, choom
It’s still good being able to build a small company/empire
Hope they expand these ideas in DLCs, I want to have my own space station with trader ships coming by and shit
>Have a whole intricate shipbuilding system
>Ships have stats like how much cargo they can hold and how fast they can go
>These stats are literally fake, and affect nothing. Your ship doesn't "hold" anything. It can act as a storage UI for junk you're picking up from killing bandits, but it doesn't actually ever hold any cargo. At no point does your cargo hold actually have any cargo items in it.
>There are """""missions""""" that have a text pop up saying "You're hauling contraband!" or something but it's literally just fetch quest nonsense, nothing ever is put on or taken off your ship, it's just text.
It's fucking hilarious that the answer to "What do you actually do with your ship once you've designed it?" is "You pretend that you're doing ship stuff." because none of it actually exists in the game.
>these stats are fale
>cargo stat effects how much cargo can fit in your ship
>speed stat effects how fast you go
>fake
what did he mean by this?
stat effects how much cargo can fit in your ship
Anon, the 50 tablecloths and 25 Bandit pistols that you looted from a space outpost isn't the same thing as "cargo".
Also, your ship speed stat is meaningless because you fast travel everywhere.
>accept mission to haul 500kg of Lead
>500kg of lead appears in my ships cargo
what did he mean by this?
you did play the game right?
of lead appears in my ships cargo
:^*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~)
Show us the cargo Anon :**~~*~~
Let's see those crates filling up your hold. Go pick them up, Anon. Go unload them somewhere Anon. Come on, this should be trivial, you should literally have it prepared already.
you're butthurt that 500kg of literal lead doesnt spawn in your ship interior? ok fair enough
but items do go into your ships 'cargo' accept a mission to haul something, go look in your ships inventory
>it will be there
>you're butthurt that 500kg of literal lead doesnt spawn in your ship interior?
Ooooooooh so now we're at the "Yes, your ship has a cargo hold, but it doesn't need to ACTUALLY hold cargo in it!" phase.
are you schizophrenic?
youre the one hung up on this BS not me
I built a 5000kg ship to haul all my CARGO i hope you can handle that
Can you show us those crates filling up your hold in Elite Dangerous? :**~~*~~
He can show you in Star Citizen, a trash game that's never going to be finished did it better :^*~~
Last I checked, one of the selling points of Elite Dangerous wasn't that you could assemble your own ship from components and then walk around the interior of it. If it was, I would probably say that then not having the interior of your ship match what your UI is showing you is fucking retarded as well.
lmfao this guy is salty he can't stock shelves in starfield like he does in real life
Crates are on the side of the ship, you get missions to deliver cargo from the boards
It's fucking wild how the meme about Starfield is for people to just say the game has features it doesn't have, and everyone just plays along because it's funny.
Guys the game also lets you hunt down bounties and put them in prison cells on your ship, and then haul them into any station in the galaxy for money.
so you are saying there are not missions where you haul cargo? I didnt make it up you fucking nonce
go to crimson fleet base, accept a mission to haul contraband, go look in your ships fucking inventory, guess whats in there
>so you are saying there are not missions where you haul cargo?
Correct.
A text notification saying "You are hauling cargo" and then "You turned in cargo" is not the same as actually doing it. But you don't care because you literally have shitposted yourself into pretending to love this game and no one knows why you chose this, but you did.
anon im sorry todd didnt program a factory with a forklift you can drive to load your ship pallet by pallet, i hope you can live with it
>anon im sorry todd didnt program a factory with a forklift you can drive to load your ship pallet by pallet
Here's the thing: You're shitposting, and you will never not be shitposting. But if you ever decide to stop pretending, the only possible thing you can say about Starfield is that it is a fake game that has less than 1/100th of the effort put into it that the budget, manpower, and hardware requirements would merit.
You don't like this game, yet you're literally going to be defending it on Ganker every day for the next four or five months. No one knows why, but this is your job that you chose.
stop being retarded
you are absolutely fucking autistic, never in my life seen someone throw a tantrum because there isn’t some forklift driving mini game where you physically move a cargo container full of lead onto your fully modeled cargo hold.
if you didn’t have severe low functioning autism you’d just place the lead into your cargo hold container and transport it normally like every single neurotypical person who’s played this game
is this really what starfield hating sois are like
the low expectations of a Beth slop enjoyer
He's talking out of his ass, there are clear differences between ships, when I finally let go of the Frontier ship by the Razorleaf (Mantis ship) I understood directly how shit the Frontier was in literally everything
Razorleaf is also shit
It's still a lot better than the Frontier
the point of getting the razorleaf is to get class b parts early on without the perk. I am just annoyed that I can't sell the frontier afterwards.
the most handy thing is the shielded cargo
>Place cargo hold hab
>it doesn’t affect your cargo stats, that’s the “cargo” external module
>it doesn’t fill up with cargo
>it’s just a fucking empty room
bravo
UM EXCUSE ME gay
THE FACT THAT THE GAME SAYS YOU HAVE CARGO IN THERE IS ENOUGH. NOW GO TALK TO AN NPC SO THAT IT INSTANTLY IS ALL UNLOADED AND TURNED INTO CYBERMONEY YOU FUCKING TRUMP LOVER.
Ill take shit you dont actually care about for $500.
That was true even of Star Citizen though, and they've only recently added proper cargo after $700 million+ and a fucking decade of coding and their entire focus is on that kind of thing. Every other space game is "fake" like that. You can't wander your cargo hold in X4 etc.
Star citizen is universally reviled (apart from its paypig base) as a scam and one of the most bugged experiences in a paid game. Starfield is a 400 million $ title made by a developed with decades of experience. You can go ahead and move the goalposts now.
Did you even read the comment chain you overly sensitive gay? You can go ahead and delete your comment now.
>and one of the most bugged experiences in a paid game
Bruh come on
Its far from perfect but it has much less bugs than for example cyberpunk at launch
And is much better game than for example nms at launch
Its not saying much and I dont think it's worth buying right now but saying it's the worst thing ever is retarded
You must be real dedicated to keep going after your Discord butt buddies stopped.
All articles say it's a $200M budget game.
For anyone that is struggling with ship combat and gets destroyed by enemy ships, there is something the game doesn't tell you
You are not limited in terms of number of weapons attached to your ships
I attached 4 laser cannons and 3 missile launchers to my ship, and now I melt enemy ships shields, ship combat is a lot better now
>the game doesn't tell you
Your starting ship has two laser canons.
>You are not limited in terms of number of weapons attached to your ships
yes you are, just like engines if the power consumption is over what your reactor can theoretically supply then the game will not allow you to have it.
Yes but there isn't a hard and arbitrary limit of only two cannons per weapon type for instance
If your reactor allows it then you can slap 4 laser cannons on your ship
There is a hard limit of 12 power per weapon group, it's not unlimited.
As a bonus the only thing weapon power gives is recharge so you can assign one power to a 12 power group and still do the same damage until you run out of ammo which is more than enough to burst down ships and end the combat.
I never said it was unlimited, I’m just saying the game somehow makes you think you can’t slap more than two cannons of a same weapon type at first glance
What? No it doesn't, what are you smoking.
NTA but it kind of does when you go into ship builder and try and add a new weapon for the first time and it tells you there's only 3 weapons allowed, at a glance it makes it seem like 3 weapons max rather than just 3 weapon groups with unlimited hardpoints.
They say 3 weapon TYPES
1.Nice Old Republic designs.
2.You absolutely are limited by powerpoints.
Putting 6 particle guns that you can fully power is superior to putting 4 lasers and 4 missiles you cannot fully power.
Of course, when you reach the end-game it's probably going to be fairly normal to have at least 12 weapon slots on your ship.
see
thats a sad copy my Black, theres absolutely nothing that prevented them from giving you spherical shaped blocks just so you could build a standard ufo design
It's not like that anon, every main part of you ship have energy budget and you have 3 slots for weapons, you get 3 slots because each slot can only support 12 energy, this mean a laser that take 3 energy will reload at faster rate when you have 1 of them with 3 energy than 2 of them with 3 energy.
The trick is to test which weapons reload after every shot and which aren't so you can have 1 slot with rapid fire weapon at max energy and 2 slots with 1 energy on 4 weapons that hold ammo for burst.
This is why for the longest time I used 2 engines instead 4, I simply used 4 energy on them so it was actually detrimental to me to slot 2 more because these engines have weight and provide zero extra performance.
This is also why the Vanguard shield is an early game trap unless used correctly, yes you will get a fuck off huge shield but you also need 12 energy to maintain it and most early reactors give like 20 energy, so you're better off getting normal smaller shield that have better regen because both capacity and regen scale with provided energy so unless you put most of your energy into shield you're getting shittier performance, naturally you absolutely can have 3 maxed weapon slots with weapons that hold ammo at 1 energy and burst the bros right away then hope you killed everyone before you run out of ammo.
This is actually why I think B class in general is a trap except in ultra late game.
Most B class reactors prior to level 45+ have less power output than the best A class reactors. I think the best one I could find was 24 when there was a 26-27 one in A class.
So you take a max speed hit, a major weight increase between the reactor, drive and engines to lift them for little gain.
It's better for most of the game to build a small crafting outpost and dump your crap there and keep a relatively small A class ship than it is to build a B class. You can still be pretty big in A class anyway. Habs aren't all that heavy, it's cargo space and your other major components that eat up your mass and make you slow.
C Class is fine once you have the engines unlocked to make that worth it since you can get 30+ output reactors around that time as well.
And besides all that, the best strategy is to nuke a bros shields then use a suppressor to make them dead in the water. Then board them, take their ship and sell it for cash.
>Then board them, take their ship and sell it for cash.
And make like 2k for all that effort, rofl. I already got over a million credits and nothing to spend it on.
I just have 8 lasers. pew-pew.
>walk into CEOs office
>sit in his chair
>doesn't elaborate
oh Barrett you joker~
>cant sell directly from your ship while in trade with a trading ship
lmao wtf is this
>meanwhile in a failed indie game from 2016 i can not only build custom modular star ships but also mechs and with the most popular mod star bases and automated factories with no restrictions
>then installing the 2nd most popular mod i can have a drug fueled harem orgy
Are ya winning yet son?
>Still no patches for this game
Todd has gone on his holiday
oh so its working as intended lol
>Community Patch already out
Yes
Play KH1 if you want to build a Starfield bitch
>tfw you run out of money before you finish building your ship.
at least I got the basic skeleton done and it in a point where it let me save it, but this behemoth in the making is not even close to halfway done so ima have to grind up some more Dosh to finish it up
How do you get that big cockpit?
New Homestead on Titan, Sol.
All the manufacturers special yards have a big bridge, except Taiyo.
Deimos's is similar but flatter and can be mounted vertically (I think).
Hopetech's is kinda lame, it's more of a hauler cabin.
I believe Stroud's is similar to Deimos's.
strouds is but lighter
Stroud or Deimos. The Deimos bridge (it's too big to be called a cockpit) has 5 crew stations on its own and has that extremely retro, almost outdated feel to it.
It's Nova's actually. Nova's is two habs high with a 2 leveled entrance.
How does the Nova bridge handle transfer between levels? If it has a staircase or ramps it might be a good way to avoid ladders on taller designs.
Yeah it's basically 2 stairs that go sideways, on the bottom and a walkway at the top. The entrances are both in the center. I'm this guy
and that's exactly what the idea was. The only ladder in the ship was the one from cargo hold to docker and bay. If you just let the system arrange the interior by default it'll ignore your wishes and do what it wants though
W I D E
I prefer longer designs personally so the 40' limit is shitty.
You have enough habs it's probably not a big deal but fair warning the Nova workshop doesn't have a research station. Deimos and Stroud ones do. Stroud interiors match Nova's slightly better of the two.
Also another warning. Every edit to your ship dumps the inventories and clutter back into cargo. DO NOT place anything on ship mannequins. They can delete stuff. I didn't have the same problem with weapon racks and cases but all my unique suits got deleted. I wouldn't risk putting anything in any ship inventory except cargo.
>dumps everything into cargo
Holy shit this is annoying.
I had constantly mounting cargo weight on my ship. I just sort of assumed it was because I have hoarder syndrome and grab every resource and crafting components I see. But nope. It was the junk clutter. I just continuously edited and upgraded my core ship. Even swapping whole interiors a few times. I had 2000lbs of miscellaneous junk sitting in cargo. Like 150 notebooks. 100 mugs. 500lbs of just dumbells. Because if the junk gets dumped to cargo and then you swap habs a new set of junk gets generated then dumped to cargo again.
You can simply toss all that junk to a outpost and named it Little India.
or South Florida if you are feeling redneck.
I know you can dump it. I actually sold all of it to the trade authority because fuck them. But it was still annoying to finally realize why my cargo was filling up so fast.
>game keeps giving me 500 pounds of MISC crap everytime I make big changes to my ship
TODD, PLEASE
This is honestly infuriating, it made sense for the Frontier or any ship you board as they're pre-owned, but new ships being filled with built in clutter is full blown retarded.
just buy Crossbow or Shieldbreaker and mod it if you want a wide fuck
question.
does the ship reflect the layout inside too?
See
Read the fucking thread. Its been answered at least twice. Yes.
listen this is like the 5235th thread of fuckin starfield thats a lot of reading man
At least this thread is actually talking about the game for once, instead of being a cesspool of discord chud shitposting.
They're probably asleep.
Bro I had all the ship skills before level 20.
It doesn't even unlock the best parts until level 60 which is the real bummer.
But you can make a nice ship pretty early. Do the Crimson Fleet quest and use the 300,000 credits it gives you to make whatever you want. I built 6 different ships in my playthrough and just did basic Freestar missions for 90% of the credits
Protip there are 5 manufacturer hubs, one for each ship brand. They each sell some specific parts. Bigger habs are the major thing, but also larger cockpits, some specialized landing gear and a few other minor things.
Stroud-Eckland is in a station. Stroud sends you there at one point.
Taiyo is in Neon. It's in the corporate tower.
Deimos has a station orbiting Deimos. They also have more weapons than others.
Nova Galactic is in New Homestead on Titan in Sol.
Hopetech is in Hopetown. You get sent there during the Freestar Ranger questline.
If you build the big landing pad at an outpost you get a console that sells every basic ship part from every brand. You still have to go to them for their special parts.
Best practice is to buy or steal a ship. Bring it to a major brand's hub, build the core of the ship there, habs, cockpit and enough to get it off the ground then bring it to an outpost with the big pad to put all the cosmetics on, since you have all of them.
>waaah the game makes me work towards my dream ship instead of just giving it to me from the start
Dude just play the fucking game, you will have credits and skill points in no time
I like doing those mission board quests by accident, often without even realizing i had completed them.
So much SOUL
>90% of parts are locked behind a perk
wut? only the most high end parts need perks.
you're supposed to build ships incrmentally, like leveling your character.
>have some money to spare
>stop by the builder
>upgrade some stuff, redo some placements, add some stuff
>ship is slightly better than before
>rinse and repeat until supership
would be nice if you could preview the ship internals. instead I put together my ship and realize after the fact that the only ladder that goes up to the top deck goes right through my captain's quarters.
Yeah the system that arranges internal layouts is flat retarded.
You can sort of guide it by only attaching habs together directly.
Like instead of dragging a hab from one location to another. Delete it and hover over the place you want it to connect to and use the "attach" command (G). This usually works for me but you have to be nice with it. If a hab moves when you do this, like a 1x2 flipping when you swap between armory and workshop, it means the door can only be in one place, like a door can only generate at the "front" of a captain's quarters.
I manage to make it so I had a ship that you entered at the bottom, passed through the docker (Hopetech bay with a back entrance not a ladder) and up to the cargo hold, which was entirely disconnected from my upper floor except through the big 2 story Nova bridge, effectively giving me an isolated second story.
Money and perks become irrelevant at a certain point here is my ship melts everything like butter and the auto lasers make every other ships shields disappear
Do turrets and the like fire by themselves or are they just like any other weapon?
They fire in their own once they're within reach I only set up laser auto turrets so they just melt the shields off of ships that get too close to me and then I just take them out with the particle beams
Ah neat, I definitely need to slap those on the ship when I get enough creds.
really dumb theres no way to share ship builds
Agreed they should add a way to maybe generate a seed # and use that to rebuild a ship
Does internal space of the ship differ depending on the design of your ship by modules, or you have the same internal space regardless of how good and sick your ship looks like on the outside?
t.someone who haven't played Starfield
it does
I don't believe you. If this was true, then the guy building this ship
would climb through a maze of several floors inside his ship and aint no way Bethesda does this.
Nta but he is telling the truth
Yes depending on the habitat it'll have crafting benches inside
pretty sure that ship has you climb up a very long ladder and then another shorter ladder
it doesn't make all of it walkable it just approximates it
The game is a fast travel simulator, you don't have to walk or fly anywhere, you can teleport at will to your pilot seat from anywhere and vice versa.
the ship builder is literally literally just a portable home. Of course it does. It's not impressive at all that it does
There is a reason so many anons build flat ships. Nobody wants to deal with ladders and to my knowledge player ships don't get the luxurious staircases and elevators we see on capital ships in the game.
>Nobody wants to deal with ladders
They're fucking awful but just drop down/jetpack up them instead.
can you turn off gravity, cause zero g is fast
A basic jumpack let's you skip the ladder. I never use them.
But you're right you can't add stairs and I tend to build pretty flat because of that.
I built a ship that was trying to look like a Gundam Musai class. It didn't end up working with my limited components but the tiered design made it hell to actually use and I gave up.
There is at least one cockpit with a ramp, the triple wide one.
I just want a double tall cockpit though
Technically Nova's big bridge is 2 habs tall. But the lower part isn't used except as a possible entrance.
I remember before starfield came out so many people bitches that the engine couldn’t handle ladders and now that they’re in the game everyone avoids them.
Having to press E to climb ladders and be stuck in an animation is outdated design. They should just let you run against it, and it will move you vertically
you never ever have to walk around your ship unless you're one of the overweight retards. you can teleport from your seat to outside when you land on new planets, you can directly board stations without walking all the way to dock, etc. you will never even see the interior of your new ship unless you specifically go out of your way to look at it.
>aint no way Bethesda does this.
LOL
>The most overrated hacks that barely manage to stitch the same fucking game with the same fucking bugs together would never do something stupid!
Every manufacturer has a 'style' for their modules both interior and exterior. The connection between modules are random though so if are autistic about ship interior you will hate the doors and ladders in random places you can't control.
I wonder if a macross missile massacre is a viable concept for a ship?
It is, as long as there are enough missiles (the main problem is enemy shields may begin to regen if your first volley isn't devastating enough.
Just equip at least 2 different types of missile so you can assign then to 2 different groups.
Meanwhile, in reality:
>wanna build a starship
>scrape together 40k just doing random shit before level 12
>do incremental upgrades over time
The perk system is shit, but there's tons of stuff you can do before flying around in a giant battleship with all the BiS parts.
player.additem f 10000000000000
I don't know if this works cos I haven't played it yet but I'm going to assume it does
Is it possible to add crafting bench inside your ship? Ive bought the premade Marathon ship and theres only a fucking kitchen in it
Look at the different hab sections. Workshops all have an industrial, suit and weapon bench. Stroud and Deimos workshops include a research bench there too, the others don't. Infirmary has a pharma bench and research bench. Science sections all have research benches and I think some also have pharma ones too, difference in aesthetics. Certain brands have mess halls of various sizes, those should have kitchens and some of the all in ones or living quarters do too, but not all.
toddbros what is this.. https://youtu.be/Q-yYmq35E3I
Kino In Space
Love me some turrets
Is there a website or something that shows the interiors of the parts yet? I don't want to trial and error EVERY hab/cockpit to see if I like it.
Some gay on Reddit and a few YouTube videos have them.
I'm general though:
>Stroud and Deimos interiors are nearly identical. Deimos has a dark floor but otherwise they're basically the same. Very clean modern look. Deimos basic cockpit feels like a fighter. Stroud's is more like sci-fi cockpit. Their Bridges are identical. Stroud also has a top mounted hauler cabin that I hate because it puts a girder right in your line of sight.
>Hopetech and Taiyo are similar. More of a lived in Trucker look. Taiyo cockpits on the other hand are very clean whereas Hopetech's are more like fishing boat cabins.
>Nova is "nasapunk" very white with a sort of sciencey look to them but without the modern look of Stroud. Think of a newer international space station interior. Their basic cockpit you've seen on the Frontier. Their Bridge is huge and 2 storied but very open.
Who are you quoting?
I snagged pictures of all the cockpits for starfield general, here:
>https://imgur.com/a/vXQniuA
And pic related is the interior aesthetic of all 5 manufacturers.
There are too many unique hab layouts for me to bother getting pics of them all so find that elsewhere.
God I hate the Kon Tiki. Who thought it was a good idea to put a big bar right in your field of view?
As for the rest of the habs, the only important distinction, besides aesthetics, is that Stroud and Deimos workshops also include a research desk. The others don't. If you want a research desk in those hab types you have to have a science or infirmary hab. You can just mix and match if you're short on space.
Lore wise each manufacturers makes ships for specific purposes, which I assume Bethesda uses as an excuse why some cockpits are better than others. Stroud-Eklund makes industrial machines like salvagers or movers etc. Which is why their larger cockpits are like wide viewing platforms, so they're not really built for being effective fighting cockpits.
>flying back to port
>flying
Lmao more like went through a dozen loading screens
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
MEDS NOW
1 loading screen.
>can turn 2x1 habs into 1x2 habs
>1x1 habs are always empty
Anon hated that.
>can turn 2x1 habs into 1x2 habs
What? How?
There are a few 2x2, 2x3, 3x2 and 3x1 habs but I haven't seen a 1x2. You can't flip habs sideways, can you?
I meant to type can’t. I got distracted during the one minute post delete timer and gave up on reposting a corrected version.
Ah that's sad. I got excited for a moment
credits
You sound mentally challenged. I got 100000 just from doing maun quest and killing a few outposts of pirates
better to get ships by stealing them from pirates/religious nutjobs
shipma balls
My only complaint so far is that I can't save a ship unless it has all the required parts (reactor, grav drive, landing gear, etc.)
Not everything I want is at one single vendor, so I have to add a bunch of shit that I don't want, just to get back on a different ship that I'm actually using at that particular time, and fuck off to the next port only to uninstall the shit I don't want so I can install the shit I do want
So building a spaceship is expensive and you'd have to be smart to do it? You don't say?
ship rate thread lets goo
ugly weak and no power probably lacking crew bedrooms
>farcry5
from a workaround to get autohdr to work.
>lacking crew bedrooms
I have space for 3x1 hab just for living area, but I swear all of them have like 2 bunk beds and thats it.
I'm an edgy guy what can I say
why are your images titled far cry 5?
before the latest windows update, auto-HDR would not work with Starfield but theres a workaround if you just renamed the exe to farcry5 lol, and reshade screenshots use the exe name. I haven't bothered to update and fix my shit yet
Check this out, it's still not native HDR but better than Windows Auto HDR. Highlights look way better/brighter.
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/588
>red/black
Edgy.
if you make a long ship the game says you cant land.
But ive seen another issue, some ships will literally overshoot the landing pads and block the entrance to the locations you visit. Pretty funny
tiny cock(pit)/10
very nice, annoyed i'm cucked by perks and player level in finding better shields and reactor like yours.
Those are actually the first ones I went for. 1 level in targeting control > piloting > shield > starship design > ship command. Need two more levels in the last, then change some bits in my ship around so I can have a full crew.
isnt the targeting control the perk you need to disable a ships engines?
Yeah, that's the one.
v.nice
surprised there haven't been more muh ship build threads thb
AI scout from ftl?
>It's another zoom zoom wants his toys now episode
Just did the paradiso quest. No spoilers but what a piece of shit. The knowers will know.
>hey random guy we just met, negotiate this lifechanging decision for us
>hey random guy we just met, make this board decision for us.
bravo bethesda
lol yah there is a lot of that. it's kinda dumb and unimmersive when there are countless NPCs standing around doing fuck all.
it just kinda seemed half assed, obviously someone at Bethesda had a good idea for a quest and then whoever actually made it just didn't even try.
It makes sense if your character is a white male.
I wish I could've just shot the execs.
you and me both
have you come across any other good quests like it? so far the UC faction is on a similar level.
Haven't done the UC quest, but I doubt (or at leastr I sincerely hope) there's no other quest that has me pay 40k out of my own pocket for some useless trash rewards which, if sold, would net me maybe 6-7k.
ah least the storyline was interesting, 40k was annoying but you could halve it with persuasion.
I failed my persuasion checks and decided not to reroll because I assumed it would only cut the cost by 5k or so. The oversight of having not reward at all from the execs is honestly what pisses me off above the loss of pixel money.
Which one did you pick? Did you help the refugees pay for a grav drive to go to another planet? I picked the option that allowed them to settle in Paradiso while working minimum wage, and the refugees seems perfectly happy with it since it was their group's goal to settle on that specific planet.
I opted to pay for their grav drive since I'm swimming in creds anyway and they blasted off into space, honestly I wish I could help them overthrow the planet instead. The way they called it 'indentured servitude' rubbed me wrong.
If the refugees had any future problems with it, then they could just revolt and pull a Tenpenny Tower, it's not my problem, at least they finally lived in their dream planet.
I just bought them the drive because I was rolling in cash.
Funnily enough I talked to the engineer in Hopetown while dodging bullets because security was still pissed I shot Hope in his face during the Ranger quest.
Have any of you found Roosevelt and Genghis yet?
>Roosevelt and Gengis
I just did this quest last night. I sided with the Pragmatists.
Same. But I kinda sympathize with Genghis. If he weren't a retard who told me to my face he wants to go out and be warlord, instead of just saying he wants to be free I might have sided with him.
Similarly, is anyone at the end of the game? What happens if you side with the Emissary or Hunter? I killed them both even though I was more on the Hunter's side, despite him killing Sam Coe.
Mine killed Barret so I told them to give me their artifacts and GTFO.
I'm more interested if anyone knows where the last three temples I need are located. Vlad stopped giving me the locations.
I figure I must have to do NG+ and find different artifacts during the playthrough.
>Vlad stopped giving me the locations
He'll should give you them in time. Try resting at the lodge for a few days.
UC and Crimson Fleet faction quests are pretty good, the Ranger's faction quest is pretty boring.
ty anon will check em out
The Crimson Fleet one is great, Ryujin is pretty boring comparatively. Haven't done vanguard or rangers yet.
UC is great, Rangers is less so.
You bleeding heart, fuck those colonists. No free pass for being dumb.
I did it because I expected the game to follow game logic and reward my investment. But since it's nu bethesda we're talking about they subverted my expectations and flipped me off.
It's a lesson. Be grateful
>figure fuck it, its just one tiny ass resort for a giant fucking planet. I've killed better people for less
>the executives are all immortal and refuse to acknowledge you even attempted to murder them
fuck this quest
Just blow the ship up, it's cool.
it belongs in a museum. any retard with enough money can start a resort
lmao of course he's essential, even the fat queer on the ship is since he has a side quest
Just cheat in the money, it's more fun that way. Are you really gonna sit there and vendor thousands of items for 200 credits each? Fuck that, open up the console.
i'm using the starUI mod which is handy for two things, a column for having a column for value/mass, I try and pick up things that are at least 1k value/mass, which boils down to non heavy weapons and helmets, then the rest of my earning comes from selling contraband which is usually requires lockpicking. Most annoying thing is the trade authority vendors low af shop credits and having to wait 48 hours on a bench to reset it.
meant to also mention the DPS column for weapons, so you know which to retire / sell.
Learn to play gay i vendor like 1-3 items run the vendor out of money. Spec into commerce you shit cunts. Making money in this game is so easy it's ludicrous.
what a waste of points. so I'd have a few extra hundred thousand now, big deal. it sits there doing nothing anyways. but I need those points to use it for anything
By level 40+ a purple gun is often worth more than most vendors carry with no investment in commerce at all.
If you do Ranger bounties every 2 or 3 you get a special one that pays 11,500 credits a pop.
Outposts print money.
This game is very easy to break.
can't you just
>~
>player.additem f 100000000
>enter
?
you can but where is the fun in that?
>you can but where is the fun in that?
Well the fun sure as fuck isn't playing the game.
yep credits have the same Id as gold from skyrim
This is the best ship design because enemies only fire at your centre.
no proof
play the game
post proof
It's the same principle as https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16blfdf/i_made_a_stupid_dumb_starship_build_and_its/ - AI only targets center mass.
It is because AI target center mass
If you build something without center, it literally cannot get hit
AI aims at centre of mass of your creation, not at the ship parts themselves. So if that centre of mass is empty space, nothing is going to hit you.
Here we see someone who has offset their ships centre of mass by having a stack of structure components vertically and horizontally, thus moving it outside the main body of the ship
This also basically confirms that system targeting and damage have nothing at all to do with what parts of the ship are being hit.
lel. Blattodea here I come
>have to put effort into something
What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?
Stop wasting skill points on useless perks
I don't like that all modules are clearly modules, and not integral parts of the ship - it makes ships feel like one of them cargo container homes. I also don't like lack of cockpit/bridge options, lack of hallways of any kind, lack of angles and lack of diagonal rooms.
I do wonder just what parts are locked behind level (definitely some large cockpits I think). and apparently I unlocked some UC specific ship parts when I joined em, does that apply to any other faction.
Only locked parts are modules which depends on a level of this or that skill (reactors, weapons, engines, grav drivers). You have access to all habs and structural modules from the start (selection depends on the vendor) and if you don't want to jump through 5 systems to get modules from all of the companies you can build a landing pad on your outpost - while it will still lack wide habs or big cockpit you will have all basic modules.
The way parts work is as follows:
Some parts are only available at brand specific vendors. This includes the big cockpits/bridges and 2x2, 2x3, 3x3 hab sections. I believe these are mostly available from the start.
Others, like upgraded reactors, drives and weapons become available as you level. The best ones I've heard unlock at level 60, but I had C Class reactors with 37 power at level 46.
You can see everything available at your level that a vendor has. But the stuff you're perk locked from is greyed out. So you can always tell if something is unavailable because of your perk. Stuff that is level locked isn't visible until you reach that level.
thanks that clears it up
That's good info, appreciate it. I'm getting into the ship combat pretty heavy now, so I'd like to refit one of my vessels as a pure starfighter. Minimal cargo, low weight, bristling with turrets.
Stole my first ship at level 8. I'm so proud.
looks like a fish
lol same i stole that one but then i got the Mantis
>steal a whole ass ship
>registration fee makes it only a tiny profit to sell ships for some reason
I wish there were some kind of chop shop mechanic and just sell all you could with the materials
I mean you essentially are selling off the worth of all the modules, but you have to register it first for some reason
>steal a whole ass ship
>registration fee makes it only a tiny profit to sell ships for some reason
It's to keep the economy from imploding the moment you steal a ship. They're routinely worth 20,000 plus credits. If you could steal ships and sell them for that the economy would be even more broken than it is. Hell I'm convinced the piddly 5000 most vendors carry is to keep you from swimming in credits too. I did the Crimson Fleet quest and got 300,000 at the end and immediately kitted out the best ship I could buy at the time and still had 60,000 left.
yeah, the funny thing is, the Crimson fleet as a whole is the best way to make lots of money.
since not only do you get a fuckton of Dosh at the end of their questline, but the Piracy missions from their mission boards are the best way to get a lot of shit to sell quickly.
and combine that with the fact the Key has like 6 shopkeepers all right next to each other and two of them regularly have like 9000+ credits for you to sell, means you can easily make a piss large amount of money for use in getting your ship kitted out
Plus you get those two unique modules for your ship
the only annoying thing about being a pirate is that a bunch of random outposts are inhabited by them so you don't get their sweet loot. also makes racking up ship kills for leveling piloting a pain in the ass
There's double the amount of UC and FC ships you can target instead.
>racking up ship kills for leveling piloting
That's what the vanguard's flight simulator is for.
are you retarded?
Are you? What don't you understand.
>how do I farm ships easily as a pirate?
>oh just be aligned with UC
You can be a UC Vanguard and still side with the Crimson Fleet. SysDef is like the navy's special ops or whatever, Vanguard is citizen militia.
But really its just bad writing. They apparently simply do not communicate with each other to say "yeah this dude we sent under cover betrayed us and joined the pirates and is probably the second most wanted man in the system, maybe don't give him access to all your shit, give him citizenship and celebrate him as a hero."
>FOB into new Atlantis
>get told about Vanguard
>go check out their flight sim
>get pilot points
>leave
>never talk to them again
>become pirate
What's so wrong about that? I'm pretty sure you can even join them then backstab them during their questline to truly join Crimson Fleet too.
The fact that you have to pay the same registration fee when selling ships to crimson gleet is retarded
It should at very least be 50% lower when selling to the fleet
hey they may be pirates but they're not charlatans and scammers
Yeah, like really guys, at least give us some flavour text where the say the fee is for wiping the flight computers or whatever else, like you pay to get a stolen car made legit.
just steal a ship
I call it the: Prolapser.
I've heard that the oxygen supply on that ship can be temperamental.
how do i get a ship that has its gravity turning on and off like a spaz?
I hated the way fo4 settlement objects were tied to your perks, always having to dump 6 point in cha just to have workbenches. Of course they learned nothing from doing that.
IF YOUR SHIP ISN'T ASYMMETRICAL IN DESIGN, THEN YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT VIDEO GAMES.
I'm not sure what the actual complaint is here? You need to be high level for a high level ship. At high levels, any common gun picked up off a trash mob sells for 10k. A single outpost clear will net you 200,000 credits. It's working as intended, and as it should.
Everyone seems to be making horizontal ship designs, why hasn't nobody tried to make a vertical design ship? Like the UFO/UAP accounts of civilians and Boba Fett's ship.
Too demanding of the creation engine
>made a bounty hunter character
>named him Shaquille'O Fett
>can't make basketball shaped ship
I quit
Ships need landing gear. The taller your ship compared to its footprint means it's harder to put gear on the bottom.
It's also a pain in the ass to go up. Ladders are slow and you can only go up one floor at a time boosting, maybe two with a power pack.
You also need a continuous path of habs to any other habs. So you have to build it out of 1x1 habs or make it look goofy.
Very little of the parts are made for verticality. Most of the "flair" pieces are designed with horizontal in mind.
I am eagerly awaiting the Mandalorian armor mods
whats the point in building the ship?
420 inventory space in the Frontier runs out fast
>have typical sticky fingers syndrome in every Bethesda game
>if it's a resource, weapon, suit or crafting material I grab it.
>most I end up selling but I have an ever increasing stash of crafting materials and resources
>barely need them, still fill my pockets
>have to build a ship with 3000+ cargo to hold it all.
Vrafting materials are the worst offender
And storage containers at outposts are pathetically tiny
I need mod that makes all resources weight like 0.05
>have to build a ship with 3000+ cargo
Kek, just a warning if you're planning making manufacturing lines - I've got just under 10,000 cargo space and still get pressed for room purely with resources and components
But why?
Surely you have to stop at dozens of vendors to sell all that off? There's no other reason to make outposts but money.
>dozens of vendors to sell all that off?
Oh its not for selling, its for building and crafting advanced parts. I'm determined to have automated production of advanced reactor and advanced drill parts. What's left over when I'm done will be sold and then all production flows into one import hub back on Sol to be collected and sold until I decide to stop playing the game.
Literally me. I the first ship I bought is big ass cargo ship for like 180k but I'm only level 12 or so and didn't know about the perk needed for class B so I built outposts to stash my shit while I wait for my big ship
I like rocks so I ran out of space quickly
What I like about Starfield is there is no punishment for being a bad person. So I am a space pirate.
you can just add perks through console commands. some of them are bullshit.
Now I need to figure out how to build a ship close in design to the event horizon.
Cockpit will be an issue.
And the total length is capped at 40', which might not feel long enough.
The general design definitely works though. Long thin center line with big cockpit and big engine section is pretty common.
if you focus on tech tree you can get to max tier ships before level 20
piloting is a level 1 skill you can unlock class C ships at level 3 or 4
also it takes like 8 skills to get to the third tier of tech to start unlocking the advanced parts. 1 point In each and you can be on a class c ship with experimental parts at level 10 if you wanted
I'm also leveling up persuasion, and 1 point in commerce and some other choices so ill get to it around level 20 probably
Don't bother with persuasion all that much. You'll understand after you finish the Ryuijin quests.
What faction simply asks you to blow shit up and smoke spacers? I'm a simple man
UC and FC are totally fine with you blowing away Spacers, Pirates and Mercs. Crimson Fleet are pirates so they let you blow away everyone but themselves.
UC questline makes you hunt down aliens. You get a pretty cool suit for it too
Are uc and rf questlines mutually exclusive?
You mean freestar? Nah.
t. finished the UC one and around halfway with the latter
I had a brainfart
I tought of crimson fleet but called them red fleet
No, they're both civilian militias enforceable only in their territories so there's no problem being part of both.
cf god damn it
Its the same colour anyways
None of the main quests are exclusive.
Its a modern Bethesda game. If they didn't block you from being the wizard school's leader if you only knew 2 spells they're certainly not going to tell you can't be a pirate and also a Space Sheriff.
UC SysDef and Crimson Fleet ate exclusive, but thats because it's the same questline.
I just keep using mantis ship so far
but the scripted encounter where spacer run away from you just get tiresome after the fifth time
maybe I will upgrade my dad's ship after I reach C tier ship
>can't have full synth crew
Thought so. At least I have Vasco.
Protip: there's a Taiyo cargo module that's just a single rectangle slot space but holds 1200 cargo.
Can you just make a space centipede cargo ship?
I don't know what you mean by space centipede , but Taiyo is the AESTHETIC brand line.
Yeah. You can just build a big spine row and add cargo containers to it.
It's actually a very good builder if your aim is "space truck" or "space cargo ship" aesthetics. They have a whole manufacturer dedicated to being the space truck guys.
>Trucks in spaaaaaace
can you build the prometheus?
Looks pretty doable, just maybe with less greebles
There's no diagonal parts so the engine might look off but otherwise the Deimos cockpit is close and "big engines on an outrigger" is very easy to do.
not to exact like that but yeah. i plan on building a ship from EVE online eventually
did you really just make an issue out of level/skill requirements in a video game?
you wanted to build an endgame ship in the early game, what exactly did you expect? yeah, you have to play the entirety of the game to get access to the endgame stuff, what a shocker.
>actual on topic discussion
Brings a tear to my eye
Post ship designs that utilize space effectively but also look decent
No disjointed limbs, pointless struts, empty spaces
No boxes
It's a trick to hide how shallow the game is. Remove the timesinks and there isn't much to it.
There's a thousand ways to get credits, so just do something you like rather than grind something you hate
>telling fellow Gankertard to do something he likes
Anon, I....
>remove the timesinks
Might as well propose to go outside and touch grass. Games are timesinks
>expect a progression-based game to let you build and do whatever you want right out of the box
bros there is no level cap in Starfield. just play the game, level up, get skills & money, have fun.
I spent 2 hours building a big beefy spaceship thinking there'd be some advantage to it, but it was complete garbage. I ended up buying this one for most of my money before I realized that this was skill locked. I compared it to my compact, smaller ship. Is it really worth the grind for these improvements?
>need to put 12 skill points into Social to unlock Ship Command and then 3 more for each level to utilize the crew space
>need to destroy or board 5 ships and then 25 ships with a full crew to get it to level 3
level it up
>need to put 12 skill points into Tech to get Starship design and then 4 more for each level to edit it and utilize any spaceship part no matter the quality (all the levels are unlocked by going in and out of ship builder just adding random garbage to your ship so not really a grind)
>need to put 4 skill points into Piloting to actually use it at all
>need to destroy 45 ships, which is only time consuming without the simulator because you don't run into enemy ships that often doing regular things
At minimum, you'd have to get to level 31 to utilize a better ship and the upgrades do not feel at all worth it. Plus you could easily just upgrade the skills in tech tree themselves if you don't like ship building. And focusing on ships takes points from weapon/suit modding or outposts or anything like that. A lot of this whole upgrading thing feels like nothing more than worthless timesink, but I just want the freedom to add whatever to my ship.
>A lot of this whole upgrading thing feels like nothing more than worthless timesink
It kind of is unless you're going to go gunning for the legendary ships and even those can probably be nuked by just cramming as many weapons as you can power on a ship and using targetting. Crew spaces serve no worthwhile purpose and cargo is next to useless unless you're doing outposts and those are ultimately pointless when the time it takes to be profitable you could have made 100x more by selling and looting shit.
Ship tier restrictions are fucking retarded
You dont actually gain anything substantial and often core parts are straight up downgrades
Get that mod (chat table) that removes bunch of byilding restrictions and have some actuall fun
B class is kinda bogus since a lot of its components are basically downgrades of the best A class stuff and none of its stuff is as good as even mid tier C class.
But the whole point is that its a progression. A class is the kind of small light shit you buy as a starter and C class is a big weighty freighter or battleship.
You don't need Ship Command. At all. Unless you're dragging an entire gaggle of retards with you everywhere you go, there is no reason to have any crew at all, in fact. Every ship is flyable solo.
If you buy a ship with parts you cannot buy yourself, they still work. You can buy a ship with high level parts, so long as you don't delete them, they will work. So Ship Design isn't needed unless you NEED to edit something. Even then I was maxed out before level 30.
The only complaint thats valid is the Piloting perk locking you out of C class ships. But thats a first tier perk and its easy as fuck to just take a bunch of bounties and blow up some bros for fun.
Most crew mates have ship related skills, I was under the impression that those passively improve your ship if they're on the crew.
They do, but they don't matter. They can't unlock stuff for you or bump you up a tier or whatever. And if you're flying a C class ship with okay guns, nothing can even sort of threaten you. The bonus they give is negligible.
Companions are entirely optional. They're walking flavor text. I literally took Isolation and Introvert so I didn't have to listen to them and it let me oneshot everything once I hit level 30.
If they do it's absolutely unnoticeable, I've seen people say they're broken. And Bethesda's shitty excuse for a crew screen just uses a fucking jpeg for the crew skill that tells you nothing when you mouse over it and no way to check what status/buffs are active on a ship.
get some crew that can relieve you of the restrictions
It tickles me that in the far future you can STILL buy an AK47.
Is the old earth shotgun an m1897?
no
its some ugly mystery meat shotgun with a pump that pumps both backwards and forwards
i really hate how it has no stock it looks so ugly without, you cant mod one on either theres only different grip options
>do the crimson fleet quest
>end gives you 250k credits
>take ship bounties from freestar ranger terminal for pirate ships
>go to place, disable ship
>dock, switch difficulty to very hard, board, switch difficulty to normal
>kill everyone, search ship for contraband, empty cargo/captain locker
>make 10-15k per run
You can also take their ships, but it slows the process way down, especially when those fucking retards don't put a god damned shielded cargo block on. At least you can take it to the den, but I prefer going to New Atlantis and selling all the guns at Centurion Arms then all the black market and misc shit at Tradr Authority in The Well. You can also store way more in whatever ship you have, since pirates can't into cargo bays. I've got like 2800 storage and still have 99 mobility/30LY jump.
>>make 10-15k per run
at higher level sadly taking the guns is way more profitable. even no quality mag weapons sell for a few thousand
Oh, yeah, for sure. It looks like I only implied it from mentioning Centurion Arms, but yeah, definitely check every corpse and grab the guns. Suits too, usually they aren't worth it because they weigh so much and tend to overencumber when you're doing ground stuff, but it's a quick walk back when you're boarding ships, so might as well stuff that in the cargo too.
So much of the game is just content for the sake of content. It's fucking stupid. Much of it doesn't even make sense in context. Ok sure, you need a more advanced license to pilot bigger ships and it's locked behind a perk symbolizing your time spent flying. But wait, why the fuck do I have to dig up raw fucking aluminum and set my ship's AI to researching just so I can change the scope on my gun? I can't open up a catalog and just buy it? Same for colonies. Why am I getting on this treadmill exactly? Just to spend time with the game? It's not even that you have to like or dislike the gameplay loop of "extract resources to extract more resources" like Minecraft or Factorio, but Starfield clearly isn't respecting your time. It's like a tired daycare worker handing off mismatched Legos to an autistic kid ffs. Just crack the game open with the console and give yourself the build you want and see if the game is still fun, for me though, I'm not sitting around chunking up lifeless planets when the bitch ass galaxy has already been colonized and commoditized. I'm simulating Space Walmart with my console and just bought prefabbed habs, fuck you Todd you time wasting dickhead.
>It's like a tired daycare worker handing off mismatched Legos to an autistic kid ffs
Kek it really is. Incoherent as fuck. Even Fallout 4 had buyable modifications, a post apocalyptic world with more convenient solutions than this 24th century clown world. It even had a more sensible logistics system, a fucking woman with a cow could run a supply train better than a massive interplanetary freight system which is all or nothing two way connection. It boggles the mind.
The cheat command to add money is the same in this game as every other business game, FYI
I made this hulking behemoth ship.
It's heavy as fuck, slow as mollasses, and outfitted with 4 automatic laser turrets (because I want to see how good laser turrets actually are.)
I also learned that there seems to be some correlation between ship mass and ramming damage, because whenever I ram with this thing it does massive damage.
Also automatic turrets aren't fantastic, but they also shine in some areas. They just seemingly wont fire for no reason at all even if you're aiming their cone directly at like 4 enemies - but at other times they will just tear apart enemies you otherwise wouldn't be shooting.
If they were more consistent they'd probably be the best weapon type in the game.
remove this and move the landing pad back and AI is gonna miss every shot
That's a regular gun, the 4 on the outside parts are the turrets.
donut ship strat strikes again
what? you think some nobody would be able to easily make an advanced space craft without any advanced training or resources?
Funnily enough
Stroud sends you to his staryard on a quest because his R&D team are behind on designing his new ship. The girl you replace as team lead makes a bunch of snide comments about how you're not a ship designer, unless you have that perk already, in which case she doesn't.
Its early enough you might have rank 1 or 2, but probably not fully leveled.
The ship you get for that is pretty nice too, depending on what you make them decide. The budget one is a nice all rounder, and the full budget one is a hilarious mishmash of shit.
>the full budget one
I'm still rocking that slab of shit 80hr into the game but now it has 14000 cargo space and 8 particle cannons kek
that really awesome, I will be doing this on a second playthrough.
When do I get access to parts that aren't Deimos and Nova? Do I need Rank B authorization?
See
for the brand specific staryards.
Early game, every regular ship technician sells a combo of usually 2 manufacturer's basic shit. New Atlantis is Nova and Deimos. Akila is Hopetech and Stroud (I think) etc.
>have to go to specific manufacturer shipyards for the good shut
Le sovl.... thanks
>"Good shit"
The biggest sticker is the cockpits and big habs. Everything else is easy enough to deal with. I do wish the big landing pad gave you actually everything and I'm 100% certain that will be modded in very quickly.
I wish I took a screenshot of my ship before I went on to NG+ so I could show you guys a few things with the builder, but I rushed the ending pretty hard since I could feel myself burning out.
Are there any merchants with actual money on them? I'm starting to amass a lot of modified weapons that I need to dump for profit.
Can you explore your own ship, or are you limited to just the cockpit area?
You can fully explore it and use research/modification benches/sleep in beds on it. One of the only good parts of the game is getting back to your ship during a shitty storm and then wandering through it back to the bridge and looking out as the storm passes and the hear rain batter off the windows. Comfy.
Every "hab" section is explorable. Most of the core of these anon's ships are habs, they sort of build out your basic sillhouette a lot of the time.
So you can build living quarters, workshops, armories, captain's quarters, mess halls, science sections, infirmaries, computer rooms cargo halls and a few more that are explorable and walkable. These are fixed dimension sections, most are 1x2, but there are bigger ones available.
Half the fun for me was building something I myself might like to live in for a comfy ship with all the things I needed.
The Trade Authority in the Well of New Atlantis (take the elevator in the alley beside Jemison Mercantile) has something like 10000 credits. Still not enough for really late game weapons honestly.
The interiors can't be previewed from the ship builder, but there's a good handful of interior types that are usually pretty easy to figure out what they add. One of them is like a big open 3x3 mess hall.
Whole ship, and NPCs are inside blocking your path, blocking workbenches, blocking beds, same as Fallout 4
Isn't this a SP game? Can't you just open up the console and give yourself 100000000000000 credits
I packaged a load of shit into a small package.
Some of you are saying that B class is worthless, but C class is too large and at higher perk levels there's some nice B level stuff in a smaller packages than C level.
Basically, I just hate the fuckhueg pads so I only build small pads at my outposts.
looks like an extra wide federation shuttle
I really like this one. Feels like we could see it IRL in 100 years.
>Get starfield
>Wanna explore
>Get stuck in a time loop
It's your fault for interacting with the process content.
>exploration is worse than in fallout 76
how did they do it?
Discord told you to spam a new webm, huh? There are 4 threads up with that exact video as the OP.
I'm not on Discord. And I'm spamming the webm because I experienced that too in my game but I don't record stuff, so it's gratifying to see someone catching the problem and recording it. I'm just spreading the word.
It's how I was expecting the game world generation to work for the shit that wasn't hand crafted. Just prefab "tiles" of object collections LEGO'd together to form a terrain.
Hopefully they fix this, it doesn't seem that hard to fix. Literally just remove duplicate tiles. Thats assuming they have enough permutations to allow this.
I really don't get it. There's a bunch of different ships that you need to jump through hoops for or get licenses for, but you can mod them to be anything?
You get a ship for free to start or you can buy ships. You also get some ships from quests, or you can steal them (have to pay to register those though). They're all freely modifiable.
There are 3 claswes of components A B and C
You can use A from the start but need to buy perks for other ones
Also unrelated to that leveling character unlocks wider selection of more powerfull ship parts
Ships come in 3 Classes, A, B and C.
Ship class is determined by its reactor. Bigger reactor, bigger ship, bigger class. You need perks to pilot anything but A class. This includes ships you buy or steal. So you can buy a C class ship if you have the money, but can't pilot it without the relevant perk.
When you have a ship, any ship from any source, you can modify it completely. Delete everything and start from scratch or just add stuff. The system has a few limitations, basically making sure the ship can land, has engines, has a cockpit, a way to dock, a way to get to your cockpit from where you get in, everything is actually attached to the ship etc. But you're otherwise completely free to make whatever you want from the components available.
The only considerations besides making sure the ship is somewhat logical is weight. Throw on a lot of stuff and you'll need bigger engines and can't ftl jump as far.
Okay, I see now.
fiy you can hold space during ship combat to drift with engines off
Wish game told you about little stuff like this
Or that you can mark distant location on the surface, go to orbit and land at that location
Or that you can target mission marker while piloting ship and go to the map screen of related planet with single button press
Post other usefull/neat things game doesnt tell you about
Give me cool ship names
Not too edgy and not too over the top
My current one is "Templar"
Red Rum
Wanderer
No Gravitas
Significance
Red Shift
Coriolis
I like those
Spotted the culture fag. I prefer Zero Gravitas.
You got me. I knew I had to do it as soon as I could rename a ship. I wanted to do Lack of Gravitas but there's not enough space.
Kek. Yeah the naming limit is annoying. There's always the Mistake Not...
>go into Google Translate
>type in your favorite flower
>cycle through languages until you find a good one
>???
>Profit
Can you just be a crazy pirate murderman in this game? Like board spaceships and steal everything then fly off and repeat? Dont care about story
Yes. You can, in fact, just steal the whole damn ship.
Sounds good, I will wishlist and buy for $10 in a few
Note that doing this isn't very profitable. You can sell ships you commandeer, but you have to pay a registration fee which only nets you a few thousand credits in the end. I have more fun just looting all the cargo and then blowing it up on my way out for the XP.
Yea
You can target engines to immobilize target and then dock
But if you do that in populated system you'll have space cops on your ass in no time
It's simple. We kill the space cops.
Yes but it gets pretty boring because most of the crew just stay in the cockpit waiting for you to open the door and murder them, even if they're supposed to be trained mercenaries kek
Does anyone know if the stats for powers still increase past rank10?
I don't know what you mean, anon.
The starborn powers? I didn't even know they have higher ranks. Does that come up in NG+?
I don't think most people are even through their first playthrough. I only finished mine yesterday.
Yup, I know some people have finished ng10+ I’m just hoping that it’s unlimited so it’s unlimited fun and progression.
They don't.
the ship building is the only interesting part of this game. how long does it take to get to that?
You can do it right away but higher level parts require perks.
You can technically do that right after tutorial section but you wont have cash for that or unlocked any interesting parts
Outside of ship stuff its just regulat bethesda slop with procedural generation this time
yeah honestly gettin crazy uncanny valley vibes with the fuckin dialogue. its like it was all made by AI.
its like the most boring sterile space shit but i installed it anyway so i might as well see what the fuss is about so i can uninstall after im done
theres just nothing really gripping me with exploration. definitely doesn't seem like it has any fun shit to do and its all "nasa punk" shit
What's the deal with those random outpost missions where an NPC pays you for materials? You get three options to hand over varying amounts, but all of them are staggeringly high for how little you get for it (hundreds of raw materials for a few thousand creds, usually). I'm sure this works out to be some percentage higher than vendor price, but it doesn't account for the fact that I can't possibly be carrying that much on me and would only have that much available in the first place if I had a fully operational multi-outpost setup which is very expensive and time-consuming to do. I'm level 40 and only have the bare minimum outpost setup going so far, will probably take until at least level 50 to get all the perks needed to accumulate materials by the hundreds.
it works well if you have outposts gathering those materials. since if you have outposts gathering stuff you end up with a fuckload of them and little to do with them
Just another example of the retardedly broken economy. I have a sealant farm and due to storage crate capacity I usually only have like 200 at any given time, I saw a mission asking for 600 of them and only offered like 3000 credit reward. Fucking retarded game.
How annoying is Starfield on Very Hard?
Is there a cheese strat like Summons or stealth shit in Skyrim?
not very, all your weapons scale to compensate anyway without spending a single point in weaponry skills
Hey does Starborn powers still scale even after rank10?
tied to you characters level
I see, what happens if you find duplicates after rank 10?
What should I focus at the beginning for an easier time on VHard then?
I ended up turning down the difficulty from Hard to Normal because, while it wasn't hard, bullets are basically hitscan and I was always running out of healing. I should have turned the difficulty back up once I got some perks but never did.
So very typical Bethesda progression. Early game Hard is actually kind of Hard and the whole game falls apart in the late game once you have perks and resources.
It's pretty annoying, the rewards aren't really worth it and depending on what guns you use, you'll burn through 10x more ammo. I haven't really done ship combat on v hard but it's probably a pain in the ass as well. Stealth needs to be maxed out to be really good, or coupled with chamelon stealth or the chameleon power
They should probably change it to target the cockpit component rather than (0,0) coordinates.
>Find the Mantis ship
>Load up a bunch of my excess weapons into the racks and take off to do some more exploration and missions
>Eventually go back to a city to sell my stuff
>All my shit is gone and new random guns have spawned in the racks
>No saves left from before originally taking off with the ship
What the fuck
Ship inventories are buggy. I put my unique suits on the mannequins in my armory and they disappeared forever.
Keep in mind, every time you edit your ship, everything you put down or put in an inventory that isn't cargo gets put into cargo, or fucking disappears into the ether. Its not a good idea to use your ship's inventory as a display area, as kino as that would be.
>Ship parts super expensive
ships are free
>replacing the old frontier hab with captains quarters from stroud
>realized afterwards that there is no kitchen
>have to add a mess hall so now my ship is a chonker
I know food is ass when it comes to healing but I want to make spess sandwiches
All of my designs are one floor because HATE LADDERS, and with a forward facing bay so I don't have to walk around my ship on landing pads
It makes it hard to make something look good but I like how this one turned out, I really love the stroud braking engines with a Deimos spine in front of them.
There's a cockpit that has stairs. I have two levels accessible from my cockpit with no ladders.
oh shit that's cool, do you remember which one and how do you make sure the habs don't connect themselves via ladders?
Its the Nova Galactic Bridge. You can only buy it at New Homestead, Titan, Sol. Its mentioned up thread.
>how do you make sure the habs don't connect themselves via ladders?
like this Its a bit of an annoying process but you get used to just doing it for almost every component pretty quick. The mouse controls for moving components around are ass, so its better to just spawn it where you want anyway.
It's the cockpit on this ship.
>Truly 1 level ship
Never thought of that. I always put my dockers at the actual bottom so theres at least one ladder involved. You also get to use those sweet Taiyo landing gear. The asymmetrical docker and cockpit is a nice touch as well.
This thread finally inspired me to go make myself a customized ship, been cruising around in the Frontier this whole time exploring planets. Should I go steal a random ship as a base, buy one, or can I make one from the ground up?
Gorgeous.
>Join the pirate faction
>Steal a ship after killing the crew
>Drive it back to the pirates to sell
>'You cannot sell this ship, register it first.'
>Ship costs 21,000cr to 'register'
What the fuck? You're pirates!
BETHESDA
Calm down. Its to keep you from breaking the economy over your knee in the early game. Since you can hijack ships basically in the first minutes of the game if you grab targeting early. The economy is broken by mid game anyway so you don't need those easy credits.
All they actually needed to do to justify the pirates needing registration is to have Jasmine or the bomb guy tell you its to break encryption or wipe it from the registry or something.
pirates still have logistical chains to sell their ill gotten gains in legal space and they already have standardized (to some degree at least) the designs of their raiding vessels. So a registered ship would serve them best in a logistical capacity
The enemies are not really a challenge even on very hard. The first thing I did was max out starship design. I only started combat and endurance skills in the 30s after I had all ship parts and all suit and weapon mods unlocked. I went to NG+ with a suit I found in the first 20 minutes of the game.
This is probably because HP scales like crazy, they couldn't allow your mitigation to scale much. I sincerely doubt armor offers more than 20~30% protection.
The game definitely rewards glass cannons and you can pop multiple health meds at once. I had med, trauma and emergency bound to 0, 9, 8 and battle stim on my [ bracket so even absurd damage can be treated like a DOT as it's coming in. I also chose to fight both starborn and was easily tanking them. Hopefully NG+ is a little more difficult.
>been chipping away at a mega ship as I get the money for it
>keep hitting width/Length limit
god damnit, I gotta remove the outermost 'wings' at the very edge
I pity every fool that suffers through shitty game design.
>suffering through Bethesda aids and spaghetti code
Can you built something like Event Horizon?
Another anon asked up thread.
The exact details would be impossible, but the overall aesthetic is doable. It depends how married you are to the exact layout.
You can do a cockpit in the front with a long thin section and engines and stuff at the back. But being able to walk to the back is going to get hard because there are no hab sections that look like that.
You're also going to have to break up the sillhouette with landing gear and a bay. You can't make ships that are only in space. Every ship has to land, so you're limited in size and have to have gear.
Probably with mods after the Todd release creation kit.
Thats one of the biggest things I'm looking forward to. Just a flood of cool ship parts added by mods.
I just bought the renegade and never bothered with the clunky ship builder, lmaoing on you nerds for wasting your time
Whenever I try to add a ballistic weapon to my ship it mentions an error about weapons needing to be assigned to a group. The fuck does that even mean?
Press C or whatever the check thing is, and go to the weapons menu. They don't automatically assign to m1 or m2, you have to do it yourself.
Alright, because I'm currently trying to come up with something to do a bit more damage output against the swarm of First ships near the end of the Ranger questline. Only like level 17 and the ships that are being thrown at me are like early 20s so trying to find a way to mash my head against this wall instead of coming back later.
Honestly I'd warn you against doing that questline until a bit later anyway.
Right after those ships you land and have to go through a fucking gauntlet of soldiers. I had to leave and buy more medpacks before coming back because I did it early, but still later than you. Let those bros cool their heels for a bit and do some other stuff.
And yet HopeTech's Supervisor cockpit doesn't have a big ass bar in front of your face when you're trying to pilot it. I like the basic design on it, and would probably use it if it weren't so fucking annoying to look out of.
Weapons need to be assigned to mouse 1, mouse 2 or G. You can only have 3 weapon groups at a time, and each group has to be made up of the same gun type (but can have multiple guns). So you can have 2 C0Cks-1 Cannons assigned to one weapon group and they'll fire at the same time when you press the button, but you can't have a C0Cks-1 and F4G-2 cannon on the same weapon group.
You assign groups by hitting C to bring up the warning messages thing and switching to the weapons tab.
Is NG+ even worth it? I read you had to redo it like 10 times before the game unlocks all that it has to offer. Is that true? Does NG+ even add anything other than new gear and ship stuff? Or does it just change the intro?
Honestly this is the worst thing they could've done. Imagine doing this NG+ gimmick shit instead of just creating a coherent galaxy to explore.
NG+ has the occasional new dialogue options in quests which most the time either skips a persuasion check or alters the outcome slightly.
and it also has a ton of random encounters you wont see or which won't have any context for you in the first playthrough.
also I ain't sure, but it feels like it also improves the loot you get as well, where your more likely to find better loot the more you do it
the whole "have to do it 10+ times" is just if you want to fully upgrade all your powers from gathering temples
>the whole "have to do it 10+ times" is just if you want to fully upgrade all your powers from gathering temples
Oh ok so I might actually keep playing then cause I still have a ton of faction quests and other side quests to go through. I just didn't wanna join all of them cause that didn't feel right.
Should I skip the main story or join the constellation?
>feels like it also improves the loot you get
Well I hope so. Because the loot in this game felt kind of underwhelming. Even master lockpicking didn't yield much good loot. I guess we'll see.
There's no reason not to join Constellation, and there are some kino quests (the later ones usually).
I didn't do any companion quests on my first playthrough. Are they any good?
>Ship parts super expensive, have to spend a ton of time going to random planets, looting a base and taking the stuff, going back to ship, flying back to port, sell my stuff
>Repeat x50 to get 200000 credits
this is how i know you're just watching some retarded youtuber. i'm sitting on 150k creds from about 9 hours of playtime just going through the main story. this game has too many credits available. there is no real cred sink so you just amass a fortune
Ships are the cred sink, honestly. They cost a fair amount and if you're autistic like me you keep coming back to try a new design.
LOL
morons In Space has insane Bethesda prices and economy you are a retard.
How do I get a gigachad jaw?
>get starfield
>tinnitus starts going wild
>find out their retard audio department decided to blast 15-16khz tones when you bring up the map or scanner or menus
eeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yeah I can't fucking believe that shit made it into the final game.
There's a mod for that called "More Subtle Scanner Sounds" though. easy to install
> WAA it has no gameplay WAAA
> WAA it has too much gameplay WAA
Honestly at this point the most boring thing is the Larian marketing teams.