>girl is 25+ years old
>no one wants to date her
Why is it so common in Japanese media?
>girl is 25+ years old. >kissless virgin. >no one wants to date her
>girl is 25+ years old
how should I know, I'm not a jap
japs think you're an old hag once you're 21, also
It’s less that you’re considered old. It’s more of if you’re over 25 and not married/in a relationship then either
>you’re super career oriented
>or something is wrong with you which is why you can’t find a partner
It applies to guys as well.
I'm going to become a wizard!
>I'm going to become a wizard!
Find interests, get out there, kill your ego, stop giving fucks, nobody can hurt you because there's no you anymore. Humiliation is temporary, that person won't exist once you're out of view, then start anew.
Thank you Dr Purr very cool
Your post made me feel better about my situation so thank you random anon
>>or something is wrong with you which is why you can’t find a partner
yeah, it's probably that one. I'm just autistic as shit, and I don't know how to talk to girls, or even how to love another person.
>>or something is wrong with you which is why you can’t find a partner
Which is true. Prime breeding age for humans is around 16 and it only goes downhill from there, which is why 90% of all children in the US are born autistic.
>Prime breeding age for humans is around 16 and it only goes downhill from there, which is why 90% of all children in the US are born autistic.
16 is unironically 100% legal here in Germany. In fact even 14 is technically legal under certain conditions.
>16 is unironically 100% legal here in Germany. In fact even 14 is technically legal under certain conditions.
You are slowly turning into turkey. In 5 years legal age will be 9
Good very good
germany is not a shithole now
it's 16 in most of canada and the us too it's just that california as the media mecca it's 18 so that's what's projected as the standard.
how is it that nearly every country can agree of that you legally become an adult at age of 18 and the different numbers are the exceptions
but with age of consent nobody can fucking agree, it's all over the place
how did we get here?
Anons want to scream women. Real answer; Industrial Revolution.
When was it established for most Europe? America actually was 21 until Nam' apparently. Needed more boys for the grinder. So if it was before, maybe it was a case of Europe coming to consensus because it makes sense. If they're going to be up in eachother's business with the EU might as well put down some brass tacks and try to have a commonstance on who the fuck is a full citizen. Then America saw it as a reasonable compromise to lower the age of majority based on their precedence. If afterwards, then it's the same reasoning but America is the precedence. As for consent, it's a lot more difficult to have several nations of different levels of sexual attitudes coming to consensus
A literal whore or a slut? Because DUH, only a retard would think that literally having sex is what gives you confidence. It was always about being able to be seen as attractive enough to fuck. Maybe if you were a literal teenager who has a simplistic enough mindset to think "put penis in vagina, means I'm the man" but even if you're a moron as an adult you still probably have more complex idiot thoughts
I payed for a prostitute and in my defence, I was 20 at the time and I was getting pressured by both coworkers and friends, my dad of all people managed to figure out what was going on and tried to pull my head out of the gutter but at that point it was too late. He has been teasing me a bit about the event ever since and expressed regret that he didn't manage to teach me that stuff before it was too late.
Fuck no, I'd rather let someone I love and trust teach me the ropes than have some whore scam me out of my money
It's kind of dumb to make laws that prohibit something that people do anyways, as it devalues the concept of laws as a whole.
Age of consent is just a lime drawn in the sand, where the government decides it's okay to intervene if anyone younger gets caught in the act. Most places do also have clauses that allow to people under the age of consent to have sex with each other.
>they don't have 15 as legal age
I'm sure killing garden gnomes was legal there too at one point..
16 is legal across most of Europe, even the UK. This idea that 18 is the hard barrier for sexual attraction is incredibly weird, because it just feels like people are severely suppressing what their brains are telling them. I wonder if that's why some people act like prudes when high school girls are being sexual.
>This idea that 18 is the hard barrier for sexual attraction is incredibly weird
True if you consider the idea of 18 as an age people have but from a legal point of view it makes sense because you have to draw the line somewhere. If a bunch of really mature 16-17yo will get caught in this regulation, well, so be it
I think he meant it both ways, for males and females.
My grandma (south america died at around 78 y/o in 2017) married at 15.
"Poor" kid gonna be forced to pay child support now.
16 is legal ? where I live 14 is legal age for consent and 16 for marriage.
Minors can legally fuck with older men as long as they consent but marrying ? You have to be 16.
Pic related, this old ugly arab was grooming her since she was 14, probably younger.
I hate pedophiles so much
bad get. v is a dicky board
>16 = pedo
Anon you're not pumping out retard kids if you're getting pregnant at fucking 24
iirc the only danger as far as age is concerned comes into play when you're at least like 40. if you're in your 20s you can fuck your sister and have a lower chance of your baby coming out fucked up than if you're old
fun fact: It takes about 5 generations of inbreeding before kids become odd looking.
We inbreed pigs 5 generations to get the best ones.
Japs think you're an old hag once you're 18+
And they're absolutely right.
If a woman isn't taken by 25 there is something very wrong with her.
Good point actually.
what about a guy not taken by 25? I've never gone on a date in my life and I turn 25 in July.
red flag as well just a different type
you'll always make women think "whats wrong with him why did no other woman ever pick him?"
well, I know what's wrong with me. I just don't know how to fix most of it.
Not really true, if you have literally anything that makes you stand out in a positive way then they (both gays and women) won't really care why your a virgin until you socially fuck up tremendously in some way to make them think "Oh, so that's why he couldn't get laid" in hindsight.
As an additional note, there are people who see virginity as a legit turn-on no matter the gender, it's not just "traditional" males that values it
I've yet to meet a woman that vales it unless its in young guys (18 to early 20ish)
it is true and you notice it especially in situations like mine
I was a virgin until 28 and no girl ever approached me, the moment i got my first GF i started getting approached and DM'd on IG
women are afraid to be the first for a guy but once they see he's picked by other women they want in too
So are you just going to ignore that your GF was the "first" one just so to make your argument sound better? What you are talking about is a popular myth since unless you GF spends all of her time online bragging about how good in bed you are or how caring you are as a partner there is no way for any other woman (or man) to know if you are "safe". People can't read mind IRL, that shit just exists in X-men.
What you are talking about is most likely just home wreckers looking for their next fix or women who see you hanging out with what they think is your GF and think "maybe this guy won't awkwardly hit on me if I approach him?" Try running errands/do any social activities online or IRL with your mom or your sister and you'll most likely notice the same thing
I'd imagine it might also just be anon being more confident he's an attractive male since he finally had confirmation that "yeah, random women might actually be physically and socially attracted to you even if you can't see why"
What about that person is just really fucking ugly?
>What about that person is just really fucking ugly?
bro, boogie's MARRIED. unless you look like the elephant man you're fine
Didn’t boogies first wife literally fuck their (black) personal trainer? Lmao.
cuck or not, he's had sex before
Elephant man had children and a wife. And I've never held a girl's hand.
it's okay anon, i'll just put on a skirt and do whatever you want
Yeah but so are shy, asocial, shitty, and even sexphobic people. I'm not saying all uggos can't get pussy, but SOME definitely can't.
Boogie also never had sex with his wife all they did was "hand and mouth stuff" according to him until she divorced him and found a new husband
>what about if a person is really ugly
A nonissue assuming you are not trying to exclusively fuck supermodels. Lookism is fundementally flawed and there are an ungodly amount of examples of men and women of average or below beauty still having sex and relationships.
There are literally men or women who will fuck you because you appeal to an ugly bastard archetype even, way, WAY too many people want to fuck older figures that resemble their mothers or fathers.
I have no idea what that means
Yeah that's true, 30 is pretty old. Atleast if you haven't accomplished anything. If you have a career and are starting a family, sure it's still young but otherwise you really kind of missed the boat. You're gonna have to do a lot of paddling to catch up.
It means that people only attribute virginity as something negative in hindsight after a bad experience with you but will otherwise ignore it if you, for example: look good, are funny, are pleasant to be around, are good at something (math, woodworking, cooking or literally anything else that is directly noticeable to the viewer) or even if they have any non-biased reason to interact with you, like asking for directions for example.
People can't smell or see virginity, that's just fucking stupid, they will only know if you tell them and even then they won't give a shit unless you tive them a reason to think that your virginity is a problem in the first place.
>People can't smell or see virginity
That's technically correct but there's nonverbal and behavioral tells that people continuously parse about other people. It happens mostly subconsciously but sometimes you just get a strange or creepy vibe about someone. If a man has been validated previously you can sometimes tell it from the confidence he has, and vice versa.
Confidence isn't gained by losing your virginity though, I should know, I let a whore take mine and I'm still the same nervous wreck that I've always been
Hence I specified "validation" which is only possible by losing the virginity in a not-strictly-transactional and consensual way.
Only once, right? You should use prostitutes to get better at sex.
Perhaps not the change of virgin to not virgin status in itself, but there are things you might worry about if you haven't had sex before ("can I even get it up"/"will I coom in 10 seconds") that having sex will resolve, and you will be a newbie for some time. Let's consider one part of sex as an example: fingering. When I was starting out (for the record, always for money), my fingers initially struggled at basic things like finding the pussy hole! Or touching them too high/low below the clit. Hookers had to interrupt me to put in some lube (which surely is some sign of failure)! But after a couple of times I started learning; for example it occurred to me I could spit on my fingers to apply initial moisture as a lubricant to the clit, and as girls start getting wet, bring up the pussy juice and rub it to the clit and pussy lips. Now, after not too many times of experience, I get girls screaming and convulsing in no time.
Actually, I now feel I'm *GOOD* at sex, versus not even getting my dick up as was the case on my first time, about half a year ago (at ripe old age of 32). I haven't gotten sex for free, but confidence on my performance certainly isn't a problem now. Although I guess you could say I get sex for /cheap/: I'm a sugar dating pro now, and that is a much better deal for me than professional escorts are.
I think it is more about someone accepting you.
Guys don't peak until they reach 30.
Girls peak at your country's legal age of consent.
You mean hit the wall
>Girls peak at-
>Guys don't peak until they reach 30
what about the bottom 20% of guys who start losing their hair in mid to late 20s?
and the higher percent who are losing it in their 30s?
guys peak at like 20.
dude i promise that being bald isn't your last line of defense against bitchlessness. a confident bald dude will pull more tail than an insecure dude with a full head of hair every single time
You're looking at it wrong. You're comparing attractiveness with looks for both gender, but that is incorrect.
Guys care about women's looks.
Women care about guy's money.
Guys peak at 30, meaning that's when their careers start and they start making big money. That's when women find guys the most "attractive".
>tfw no career or skills and turn 30 soon
I don't think this is a cope, even if we look at just the physical aspects.
For some reason, probably the lack of real danger or stress, both men and women seem to physically mature slower, with 23-24 year old boys looking like literal children, esp. compared to their fathers who looked like fully grown men at this age. This is a good thing for women, but not necessarily for men.
>Guys don't peak until they reach 30.
Guys peaking when they're old is only something that's said by ugly men who never got to experience life as a beautiful teen + very early 20's boy
I was pretty cute and got attention but my friend was an absolute chad and spending time with him seeing his outlook on women and the things that happened to him on a daily basis was unreal. Most guys have no clue
>40% of men are defective
Not my problem.
i lost it at 18 and i unironically wish i was still a virgin because i fucking hate the girl i lost it to
I lost mine at 17 and while honestly it wasn't special and was kinda gross I'm glad I did, not because it's some great thing but because I know that i would've thought "i'm a virgin that's why i'm such a depressive fuck" now if i hadn't, instea dof just being a depressive fuck because i'm a depressive fuck.
If you have schizoid personality disorder it's completely normal and despite people telling you you're a loner and there's something wrong with that, there isn't and you can still be a completely productive member of society. These people have always existed.
The "women live on easy mode" meme isn't some twisted incel logic, it's honest to god truth. I've met absolute 0/10 retard women with rotten personalities and the ugliest face/body you've ever seen who STILL manage to find someone who wants to fuck them. Meanwhile my 11/10 (no homo) male friends, nicest people I've ever met, who work out, have 6 figure jobs, model, travels a lot, can't find any women worth a shit.
If you're a twenty something or even thirty something year old virgin guy, there's absolutely nothing wrong with you.
I'm a woman, go fuck yourself
>can't find any women worth a shit
I can nearly guarantee that the problem is that what they are looking for is some sort of carcature, probably of a 50's stay at home tradwife with no personality who obediently nods at whatever is said to her.
the problem is that turns out the system is biased in favor of women.
we didn't observe that for most of our history because women were handicapped in a lot of ways. but once feminism and suffrage happened?
whoops, turns out the system is not actually balanced for this! where is the fucking patch, Earth
Women are also fucked since a lot of men are poor
My niece has a boyfriend but they cant do shit since they have no money kek
I can guarantee you you're a hole who has no idea what she's talking about.
So I was correct in my assumption about their overall character and completely vapid taste and desire to marry a living trope?
>women worth a shit
When men say this, what this loosely translates to is:
-Not a whore
-Not a rainbow hair
-Not covered in trailer trash tats
-Not mentally ill
and of course the obligatory
that's literally it, most men can cope with shitty personality or being stupid
these are not unrealistic standards by any means, but finding a woman without one of those things is WAY too fucking hard in current year, and that's before even getting into basic compatibility from a personality standpoint
Steven Crowder energy eminating from this post
Don't know who that is but he sounds smart
He got divorced and his wife hates him or something
He also crossdresses a suHispanicious amount
He's a quote unquote trad conservative who recently got mocked off the internet when footage of him throwing a literal temper tantrum over his 8 month pregnant wife shopping (because he was too lazy to do chores) leaked.
I don't know him but that sounds like a super fair assessment and you're not biased at all. I'm sure the situation is exactly as you described!
No, I'm serious. You can even look up the video in question if you want, it's arguably worse than what I described.
If he's famous and working and his wife is at home all day, why should he handle the chores? If you respond to me saying his wife cant do it because of her pregnancy, why can't they hire a maid. Why are you calling him lazy for no reason? From that characterization alone, I know that you're takling the shopping out of context too
Living in Japan was the biggest eye opener for me about how bad almost all American women and people in general are. American society is selfish and vain at its core. Women have insane egos in that culture. Foreign women are so much more reasonable.
for real? I figured japanese women were either worked to death or surrounded by beta males who also got worked to death, forced into a culture that would otherwise break one's mind and spirit. It was why I was always heard of Japan as a tourist country.
Some are. But they're more receptive and genuinely interested in getting to know you rather than making crazy demands and bring egotistical. They're also not covered in tats.
Have you seen Rashomon? Jap women are the same shit. They're just better at hiding it from you.
men will literally fuck anything. things even out a lot more once it comes to serious relationships though
if you act like trevor from gta v you will cause panties to gush like a firehose.
my next door neighbor was involve in six different homicide investigations, was probably the killer in at least three of those, spent more of his life in prison than out of it, died because someone finally murdered him back, and when he was out of jail he was never single for more than a couple of days.
women may or may not have life on easy mode, but the reason your male friends are single is because they're nice, rather than literal murderers who sell any leftover meth they don't use.
Maybe your friends just have more sense then the men fugging that stupid ugly bitch, it's better to make one pairing meaningful than to have dozens of worthless hookups
A guy remains a virgin if he just lives his life regularly without going out of his way to pursue anyone, a woman has to be either deformed-tier ugly or reject at least 50+ different men to remain a virgin at 25
I've never gone on a date in my life and I turn 29 in December
I'm 30 and I haven't either. I rather get my life together first so I can score a quality girl.
Quality girls your age range have already been all taken up. So you would have to try to get with a chick that is like a decade younger than you.
>Quality girls your age range have already been all taken up. So you would have to try to get with a chick that is like a decade younger than you.
I fail to see the problem.
Men usually go after younger women.
Literally same down to being 29 in December
>tfw I turn 30 in around a week and I am still a kissless virgin.
I did try to pursue a couple of women I was interested in over my life, but all of my attempts ended up with embarasment and rejection. At this point I have basically given up. It doesn't matter anymore, nobody would want me anyways given that the average 16 year old woman has more romantic experience than I do.
Resignation to being forever alone is in one way, freeing however. You no longer have to give a shit about the future at all. I mean, if you are never going to have children who the fuck cares about the future and what happens? You have no obligations towards anyone dependent on you so if worse comes to worst, you can always just bow out and have a nice day.
Keep trying anon don't tell me all you did for the 30 years of you life by doing nothing.
There are billions of women in the planet they are bound to be some or thousands that would like you.
>Keep trying anon don't tell me all you did for the 30 years of you life by doing nothing.
Why the fuck should I keep trying? Telling someone that is running last in a race to just keep trying is not only demeaning but also pointless. It doesn't matter if I bow out now or "finish" the race because there is nothing behind the finishing line for me anyways.
>There are billions of women in the planet they are bound to be some or thousands that would like you.
Lmao. I would resent any woman who acted like they liked me at this point because I cannot conceive it to be out of genuine interest or fondness towards me due to how much of a fucking loser I am. All the women that have shown signs of being interested in me troughout my life ended up hurting me and rejecting me anyways so at this point I no longer even respond to such signals.
I have resigned myself to my fate. The only tethers to living that I have are my parents, once they die I am free to kill myself with no bonds or regrets to tie me to other people.
Isn't this that one Spanish dam that famously overflowed and destroyed like 2 villages?
You're thinking of the Vajont Dam in Italy. Don't think it's the same one but could be.
You have three options
1. have a nice day. I'd do it myself if I didn't have a survival instinct
2. pay a hooker
3. stop caring, why do you put any value on sex or all of that shit anyway? Improve your skills, learn new and fulfilling stuff, do anything at all. Why is sex or kissing anyhow important?
>1. have a nice day. I'd do it myself if I didn't have a survival instinct
I posted the reason for why I won't kill myself. Literally "mom would be sad". I don't want to hurt her like that, she would never get over it. She already worries about me so much, if I killed myself I would basically ruin the rest of her life with grief.
>2. pay a hooker
No. I have no interest in going to a prostitute. The thought alone is disgusting.
>3. stop caring, why do you put any value on sex or all of that shit anyway? Improve your skills, learn new and fulfilling stuff, do anything at all. Why is sex or kissing anyhow important?
It isn't sex itself that is important. I'm not sexually frustrated. I am lonely, and like I said earlier, given the fact that I will never have children of my own, I have very little reason to give a shit about the future.
My interests, and the skills I have, like drawing stuff for example, serve as nothing more than time wasters I engage in while I wait for my life to end. Sure they are fulfilling to me on some level, but ultimately they do not represent anything more than hedonistic time wasting. There is no reason to care about the future if you do not reproduce.
>There is no reason to care about the future if you do not reproduce.
Then start caring. I've seen the most genetic of failures getting married and having 3 children. The ugliest of guys scoring girls. If you aren't it is "the society" that failed you, it is only your own fault.
>Then start caring.
Why? What does it fucking matter to me what happens in the future I have no investment in it? You do not just "decide" to care about shit, you have to have material reasons or other interests to actually motivate you to care about anything, including the future. I have no interests beyond burning time and doing shit like drawing my autismal worldbuilding bs for fun. Nothing that extends beyond myself or ties me to other people.
> I've seen the most genetic of failures getting married and having 3 children.
By the virtue that they have children they are already genetically more "fit" than I am. The only people who matter in the long run are the ones that have children because their genetics are what carry to the future. If you fail to reproduce, you fail at the task that every single one of your ancestors succeeded at since the dawn of life on this planet. There is no greater mark of failure than that.
> If you aren't it is "the society" that failed you, it is only your own fault.
No shit? Where did I blame society? I never have blamed anyone besides myself.
>I am lonely
Then get a friend
That's just as hard as getting a lover, anon.
Absolutely not. It's piss easy to get friends, even an assburgers autist like me can do it. Women on the other hand are a fucking cancer to deal with.
>It's piss easy
Not really, haven't made one in 20 years.
you can make friends very fucking easily as long as there's common ground and you're pleasant to be around
Tried it, all my hobbies consist of not talking or looking at the other people participating
>Pleasant to be around
That's an issue too, I try not to be terrible but it just kind of makes me a quiet creep
my guy. my fucking brother. you are on a VIDEO GAME BOARD. even if you dont play video games like 99% of people on Ganker you wouldn't be here if you weren't capable of holding a conversation about them
I play mostly single player old games, don't play online, and really don't have strong opinions about them. Also I'm a 35 year old man, there's not a large contingent of people itching to talk to me about vidya in public, let alone the Alien vs Predator arcade beat em' up
I have friends, but they do not fill the gap in my heart. They are just ultimately accuintances with whom I have no real deep bonds with. It is kinda awkward at times because some of them seem to care far more about me, than I care about them, mostly because I have to keep up appearances around them and they have the wrong idea about what I am like really, because I can't be myself around them. This is because the bullshit of social behavior that my university's student culture kinda enforced, which has made me adopt a sort of mask in social situations to avoid being completely cast out.
>They are just ultimately accuintances
Well then they're not your friends, are they?
Not really I guess. Though some of them think of me as their friend. It is really fucking awkward to have some dude I don't really give a fuck about professing how much of a good friend I am to him in his drunken stuppor.
>the skills I have, like drawing stuff for example, serve as nothing more than time wasters I engage in while I wait for my life to end
So? It's up to you to give your life purpose, because there isn't some inherent purpose in and of itself. Some people live in blissful ignorance and are happy with just reproducing and being done with it, some people like you and I spent 1 nanosecond thinking about this shit and now we need to make our own purpose.
The sad truth is that there is no purpose in life. You can have a nice day right now and it will make no difference in the grand scheme of things. But to laugh in the face of this purposelessness and make your own purpose anyway is the ultimate chad move.
>So? It's up to you to give your life purpose,
I know, but I have failed at this, because I see no real point in persisting in this worthless existence beyond my moral obligations towards my parents.
>You can have a nice day right now and it will make no difference in the grand scheme of things.
Sure, not in the grand scheme of things, but like I said in my earlier post, it would destroy my parents and cause so much grief to them that I cannot justify the act of suicide until they have passed on. After that there are only my two younger siblings left of my family but I am distant from them and I doubt that they would care that much if I killed myself.
>I know, but I have failed at this
You haven't failed until you're dead anon, unless you're like 70 and permanently bedridden, there's a lot you can do to give yourself meaning
You're a frogposter, you don't deserve happiness and fulfillment.
My ex is like that. She's the only girlfriend I've ever had. It was a complete fluke that we got together. All these kissless virgins need to do is find themselves a BPD monster. You will never want to be in a relationship again.
You're fucked if you're already over 25, though. At that point you would need to start grooming 17 year olds, and that takes way too much effort.
>Why should I keep trying.
Billions of women anon.
In the united states 167 million women alone.
Also I agree with this anon
Sex and all that jazz is overrated you should not be looking at your virginity as if it's some curse, it's only recent that virginity is looked down upon, but forget about that for a moment.
I suggest you take a break from Ganker a couple weeks give or take and do things that are productive quite anything really.
Life is bigger than our selves anon.
If you have the chance anon get a rosary and start praying for purpose in life and what is the truth and meaning behind our existence.
I'm a virgin at age 22, granted I had chicks straight up say they like me or I know they liked me or their friends will come to me and say they like me, but I either rejected them all or never thought I felt ready for a relationship.
I am open to the idea of a relationship, but that is not my main pursuit right now if I am going to get into the dating scene or what ever the case may be I am doing so to get married with a good woman I rather not waste my virginity on pre marital sex and thank God I didn't have that fuckboy mentality back in highschool, because I certainly would've regretted it.
I am not a fucking american tho. I am a Finn and because I got no interest in foreign women or creating some halfbreeds that kinda limits my dating pool.
And like I said here
it isn't sex itself that is important to me. I am not sexually frustrated, I am lonely and have nothing that binds me to the future.
Try making friends anon?
Look changes don't happen within a day, but you need to take small steps and again if you want purpose in life I suggest you get a rosary beads and do prayer.
We all have a purpose anon, but you won't find or have any idea what that purpose if you don't meditate on it.
I am not religious m8. I have never been, I do not believe in supernatural bullshit and pretending to do so out of some desperate cope wouldn't solve anything.
Also like I said in an earlier post, I do kinda have friends, it is just that they care far more about me than I care about them.
>I am not religious m8. I have never been, I do not believe in supernatural bullshit and pretending to do so out of some desperate cope wouldn't solve anything.
Alright, but it was a suggestion.
It's not a curse, but "wasting your virginity" is also a stupid concept. Also having an experience with women is important. I had a 7 year relationship where I ended up hating her at the end, but I also learned a lot of super valuable shit. Now I know what I'm doing more and know how to make my current GF happy.
>"wasting your virginity" is also a stupid concept.
Because I am not going to have my virginity taken by a girl I just happen to be infatuated 20 minutes ago, it is something I am willing to share with a spouse not some random girl.
In fact they are a lot of benefits for doing so as wel.
If you're female there's actually some kind of physical alteration to losing your virginity at least, but it still doesn't REALLY matter. As a male, there is nothing to even be wasted. Virginity is a concept created by humans. Whether you rail that person you were infatuated with 20 minutes ago or not does not does not make you special or a better or worse person in any way. There's literally no benefits either that I can think of, only downsides. Also sexual compatibility is genuinely an issue in relationships.
Even though it may have no actual real value, it's something you can only "give" to one person. Being that reckless/thoughtless with something irreplaceable and highly sentimental in our culture is indicative of low impulse control at the very least.
You're not "giving" anyone anything. You're the one attaching sentimental value to it. It's like "giving" someone your first time doing any other irrelevant shit. Most people won't care about the sentiment of you giving them your first time, and it's a fantasy you're living in to pretend it's going to mean much to anyone.
It's not a fantasy, because the majority of people feel the same way, you're just being overly clinical about it to make your stupid point about it being pointless. You're like someone who throws away the starter sword your dad left you in an RPG the instant you find a better one
The majority of people DO NOT feel this way, and the fact that you think that shows that you legitimately have your head in the clouds. People haven't thought this way in a large scale for a while now. Also that's a dogshit analogy, because you're talking about something you'd "possess." You don't "possess" a virginity as it's a concept created by humans and as such the value we place on it is decided by other humans. No one gives a shit you're a virgin. The person you "give" it to will likely barely ever think about that past the 5-10 minutes since you told them. But I guess you'll feel like a special good boy or something. I'm not being clinical, I'm being realistic as someone that has experienced what you're talking about. You just don't want to get off your kiddy high horse and come to reality. You're naive and it shows.
>The majority of people DO NOT feel this way
You're just flat-out 100% wrong and can't be reasoned with, not reading the rest of that, please talk to real people who aren't rainbow hairs on twitter
I literally don't use twitter, and have lived a longer more successful life than you. Stick your head in the dirt dipshit. You're the one acting like a snowflake
>no see no one cares about virginity it's just a social construct, actually women who aren't virgins are just as valuable as ones who are
Yeah okay tumblrina, sorry your life experience in San Fran doesn't check out with mine
You literally just didn't like what you were hearing and got butthurt and refused to respond, turning to insults. You're the whiny tumblrina/twitter chud here. You act exactly like every online moron that wants to live in an echo chamber. Also San Fran is a cesspool, but you act more like people that live there than I do. Trust me, I've been there, not just used it as a boogie man to insult people. You're embarrassing, and will be thinking about this conversation while I'll be living my life like you never existed. GL champion of virginity, I hope the girl you give it to puts it in their trophy case.
I've pretty much given up at this point. Every women I've met is either already in a relationship, ugly as all fuck or lesbian. And when I say ugly I'm talking "used crackwhore fully tatted who smokes and looks 70 even though she's 20-something.". I don't believe there's noone for me, it's just that the available pool for me is borderline empty.
Also don't fall for the men peak at 30 meme. It's the opposite. Your desirability goes down at that point. If you aren't getting anything by 25 it's over
I’m 33 and a kissless Virgin,there is no word to describe how over it is for me.
If you didn't have sex between 14yo and 18yo, you're a social failure. You're so late that every kind of relationship will be hard.
>have sex or you're a failure!!!!
maybe don't project your subjective perceptions of value onto other people
That's not the point he's making. You literally won't understand until you have sex. I didn't believe it mattered so much either.
>You literally won't understand until you have sex
No, I won't join your "exclusive club", I will remain sexless and live a fulfilling life nonetheless, you can't force me to have sex
Again, missing the point. Every kind of relationship is harder than it otherwise would be when you're a virgin. That is just a fact of life. Yes, you can still have fulfillment. Nobody said you couldn't.
>Every kind of relationship is harder than it otherwise would be when you're a virgin
>Building a table is harder when you never built a table
Yeah fucking duh my man
Missing the point once again. It's a matter of being able to relate and form connections with other people. It's more difficult when you've never fucked. That's all that's being said.
I would go further and say that losing my virginity at 25 changed my attitude and personality for the better. It was a literally purifying experience. But I know that will be met with skepticism.
>Missing the point once again
Experience makes you better at things. There is no bigger point here, if you think it is you're just glorifying your experiences to the point where they're something they aren't
It's literally just experience, there is no advanced state of enlightenment here
Nah, relationships are easier for me than most and I'm still a virgin. It comes down to self-awareness and the willingness to just communicate as well as recognize when others are failing to do so so you can prompt them. That's all there's to it. In all contexts.
maybe stop using gay big words and cope retard
There is no need to cope when there's nothing wrong
this is so fucking true goddamn
i got my first gf at 27 and i felt like such a fucking failure, it was special to me because it was all so new but to her i was just the new guy
Same but 33
Is being a 30+ year old virgin this common now? Wtf? It would have been unheard of even 20 years ago. I'm in the same boat and thought I was alone at 32.
I think Ganker's always been like this. Even 10 years ago Ganker was full of tfw no gf threads.
National statistics in many countries show that the rise in virginhood among men into middle age is actually increasing rapidly. It's fine though, in the end the cool wine aunts will be genetic dead ends too.
i'm 26 and have never kissed, held hands or had sex, i have done so much self improvement but it changes nothing
you cant just lift weights and do nofap and read marcus aurelius or whatever the fuck Ganker told you would work, you have to actually go out and talk to women
Where are women? Everywhere i go the women are much much older than me like 50 years old.
At bars and at parties getting their holes stuffed by a different guy every weekend. The girls that don't do that are sitting quietly in their room at home, and you will never meet them unless you happen to randomly be their coworker or something.
This is true. My wife has no friends and almost never leaves the house unless it's to do chores. She's a total shut-in weeb weirdo, who still somehow can hold a job. I would never have met her if we didn't sit next to each other in school. You have zero chance of meeting these women unless you work with them or interact with them in online forums related to their interests.
Same here. The best wife material is the one you meet early in life in school. Of course, assuming they have a body count of 0.
It's crazy to think "people" actually think meeting women online, Tinder, or at the bar would even consider them to be wife-able.
Same but I'll be 30 in a few months
That said I'm a cop so here's hoping I get shot in the fucking face here soon.
Why would you want to die because you just didn't have sex?
it still applies
I was the same age and everything as you 4 years ago and one day I just decided to install dating apps and move out of my comfort zone and now I'm married.
good on you, anon. I hope you and your wife have the best life possible.
Thanks bro, I hope everyone here can make it.
I installed dating apps and the only match I've ever gotten is with a guy
I hope you and your partner have the best life possible
bros i always joke about >tfw no gf
but i am scared of sex
I am turning 30. Get on my level.
I certainly am and I wanna pat every schizoid I meet on the head telling them everything is going to be daijobu.
Being 30, single and making good money is great. I got so much time for my own hobbies, at home I can just relax and I am saving so much money because there is noone to spend it on useless shit.
Though, a lot of female coworkers seem to be pretty desperate around my age. Guess it's good to be a man.
I'm also in my mid 30's and now a lot of zoometes are sudddendly interested in me.
They all question me, wow anon you're so handsome, why aren't you married or engaged, I obviously won't mention to the zoomete that I'm a wizard, since it would probably dry their vaginas to sahara like dry.
a coworker of mine told me that the new intern likes me, which is weird because I am 10 years older than her. I think a lot of women mistake me for someone in their early 20s.
Aren't these outdated stereotypes? Most Japanese aren't getting married, there's an extreme birth rate decline. I don't think authors are saying these women are freaks, it's just lonely not meeting someone at that point. Statistically these are the average jap women.
Anon, just because it's becoming the norm doesn't mean it's socially accepted. There's a massive rise in people not having relationships of any kind, not having their own home, just in general failing to live up to the milestones of yesteryear, it doesn't mean people don't still reflect upon that as personal failure despite how common it is. People still look at themselves and others thinking that should be the norm, either unaware or unwilling to see the growing problem.
Japan has a higher birthrate than most of Asia and most of Europe. Your entire world view of Japanese birth crisis is based on Chinese propaganda to disguise the looming demographic collapse due to China having over 500 million people over the age of 50.
>source: my ass
>Most Japanese aren't getting married, there's an extreme birth rate decline.
It's not exclusive to Japan. Most European countries have fertility rates similar to Japan (below replacement levels). Korea's fertility rate is below 1, literally a giant graveyard.
Blame boomers autistic education meme
>no kid I wont teach you to work at 14/16, go study 15 hiurs a day until you are 25 years old
>you see amI need to see you sitting on that chair 20 hours or else you are lazy!
>you dont understand this house I bought for 60k costs 600k now
Boomers ruined everything
I have a 30year old female friend who is a kissless virgin and I love her so much. Don't wanna dump my gf for her though.
> Go with men before 25
> Don't go with men by 25
lol something wrong with her
Fucking hell lads, no wonder your all depressed.
First one is false, though. Just go with a man before 25. Ezpz.
> Go with men before 25
No one says this. Also, *you're. Retard.
It's the number of men more than anything. Pathetic beta bitch incels want that number to be 0 because they fear being compared to former partners but for normal humans more than five partners in your life is considered red flag territory.
Is a female virgin at 25 red flag? I'm going on a date with one next Monday
She's either lying or yeah, fucked in the head.
Depends on why that is the case. It's probably fine and not a problem, there's way more people that just don't give a shit about dating than there are people who are actual psychos
In the same way it's a redflag for men. It's not a guarantee she's a psycho but there's nearly certainly something strange about her that has led her to hang onto her virginity for so long. It could be a good strange, a bad strange or just strange but it will there.
I've known a small handful of girls who are still virgins into their mid/late twenties and it's usually related to issues with intimacy or sexual disgust that they find very hard to get over. Ofc it will change depending on things like culture.
Yea I'm a 32 year old turbo virgin guy and it's because I'm meh looking and not good socially. Nobody gets my age as a virgin without major issues.
potential redflag but if she turns out to be a massive autist then so long as you are up for that its alright
Don't listen to the retards. A virgin woman is 100% of the time the ultimate green flag... if she's not lying, that is.
Just make sure she doesn't have a religious upbringing
>Why is it so common in Japanese media?
Because it’s (relatively) common in Japan outside of Tokyo/Osaka. I met my wife in rural Japan and she was a virgin at 21 which is essentially unheard of in America where the average 21 year old roastoid has been through a football team worth of dicks at that point.
it appeals to the same type of male demographic and its' supposed to evoke the "I can fix her" and "if no one wants her then maybe I can have her" reactions
basically just an another way these companies came up with to convince unhappy young adults to part with their money
27 and never had a gf. I had crushes, but never really asked anyone out. I did try in college, but I fucked up and spaghettied. Wonder if I will ever get with someone. Now it's either meet someone at work, which sounds like a bad idea, or them appearing out of thin air.
Yeah no you are still going to be like this at 36, ask me how I know
At least I realized how schizoid I am. I thought I wanted a GF but I didn't really. Only sex
I'm like that too. Sometimes I fantasize about having a GF but the times where I'm glad to be alone outweight those moments by a long mile. I would need so much time for myself in a relationship that it couldn't even really be called one. No one would out up with that.
If I'm a 26 year old kissless virgin, is something wrong with me?
how big is his dick?
I love my pedo-teacher Kawakami
How many milliseconds until some dumb compares her to Misaka from NHK
You mean Misaki my waifu for 15 years
She’s a total bitch in the Manga and LN btw.
>She’s a total bitch in the Manga and LN btw.
She’s way more manipulative and isn’t painted in a very good light. Wherein the anime she’s shown as pretty kind to Sato and invested into him as a human in the manga/LN it’s much more heavily implied she’s manipulating him for her own benefit/because she’s fucking crazy. She gaslights the shit out of him throughout it and lies a shit ton.
That sounds like a way more interesting character. Why the fuck did they do the 180 in the anime?
because then it would've been canned before then.
I need more of those pics.
It's bad cosplay porn why would you want that?
>gets mad if you don't take hints
Fuck, I'll have to replay now
this reminds me of the college girl with the massive turd on her ass because she passed out and shit herself
AND the other one when someone shit on her head.
uhh might want to see that one chief
I need more Kawakami cosplay photos, please.
She kinda looks like Misaka from NHK
I spelled it "Misaka" on purpose to see how new you were.
Her name's actually "Misaki".
Why is rika crying?
Playing Persona 5 when you are almost 40 is a pretty weird experience. You are attracted to the "hags" instead of the kids but then you remember they are still ~15 years younger. Is this how e-boifags feel like?
I've always been into older women, that's why I was an odd one out when in school/college etc.
The Japanese legitimately think your life is over at your early 20s
They consider 30 to be old.
Are they wrong?
i think the nipponese just romanticize the fuck out of their high school years because their culture dictates that you must work some shit soul crushing job with terrible hours for the rest of your life the second you graduate
Isn't jap high school like 8 hours of lessons + 4 hours of cram school + 2 hours of homework + 2 hours of forced extracurriculars like piano lessons?
Asian children are slaves, anime is just escapism from this dreary reality.
if japs have so little free time then why does every anime have such shitty pacing
Why do you think wish fulfillment exist, thus isekai and high school settings including young people relationships are so romanticized? Japs fucking hate adult life. The school uniform itself is a symbol to them.
>The Japanese legitimately think your life is over at your early 20s
Because it is in nipland tbh.
Your college years in nipland are peak life experience, professors do not give a shit and you are automatically passed regardless of how little effort you put in. In nip college you basically just party and sightsee with friends for 4 years before you join a keiretsu and sell your soul to slavery.
t. Went to nip college and currently on my 6th year of keiretsu slavery.
its over in terms of social life in japan
at 30 you should have an established career which means you work 12hrs a day which means you have zero time to meet new people
if you havent gotten married by 30 you're fucked
Wish fulfilment for Kissless vrigin Aka the majority of RPG players
So she ended up duying alone, while secretly shlicking to Makoto and Joker having sex?
>You find your sister passed out drunk like this on your bed
What do you do?
realistically i'd probably just look up her skirt, but i'd love to grope the ass and tits i've been fantasizing about my entire life
You're entire life? You're straightup broken.
probably. so what?
pull her off the bed by the legs and call her a dumb whore while dragging her across the floor to her own room
Why don't Japanese people refuse to work excessive shifts, or perhaps just work three days a week? Surely there's enough of a counter culture for them to make friends.
Japanese have zero workers rights and can't protest for shit. I met a Japanese coworker at some dumpy cafe. I quit on the spot and he told me that you just can't ever do that in Japan. The idea of sticking it to a job that treats you poorly is still not justified.
Generally speaking, if a human is 25~ and is still a virginity it signals several potentials:
-The person in question is extremely shy/anxious
-The person in question has difficulties socializing, or perhaps just finds it tedious and so has limited opportunities
-The person in question has an abhorrent personality that even autists find repellent
-The person in question is simply asexual or repelled by sex
Media across the world both vilifies and fetishizes virginity in this age range. Vilifies in that due to capitalist society anyone who is not a married working drone by 25 is deemed 'defective' and so must be mocked, fetishizes in that most people have what could be described as a corruption fetish, and an adult who is merely shy and totally inexperienced provides fuel for that. Who wouldn't love the idea of taking some adult man or woman who is culturally an archetype of purity and defiling them, or making them a depraved degenerate? Few people will admit this, but its the truth.
I would love a girl with a corruption fetish to start dating me. Not knowing that I'm already a fucking degrnerate thanks to being burned out on vanilla porn and just fapping. So that I could corrupt her beyond any repair myself.
But that's not happening.
I'm gonna post 3 pics and then I have to go to work.
Good luck at work, wage-kun
>Still kissless hugless virgin (male)
>I turn 25 in a couple months
It's over for me, isn't it?
I'm 28 years old.
Still no sign of powers tho
its just beginning, m8
>tfw turning 31 next month
>still kissless virgin
did hold hands with girls
28 and kissless I come to Ganker to see people like you that are even older to feel better about myself
it's never over famalam
I lost my virginity at 32 to a 20 year old
If you are not completely repulsive and work on yourself you can get there friend
Just gotta put in the effort
There's always whores too
I'm 36. Never touched a woman. I stopped caring at 25. Life's so much easier when you don't stress about pussy
sometimes it concerns me to see how presumably many people there are like me in these threads
just tell them you are saving yourself for the lord
38 year olds don't look like that.
you're right, they're even more gorgeous
She isn't American, anon.
A rare 38 year olds doesn't get walled
>38 year olds don't look like that
My mom is Korean and she looked like that until her mid 40s when I was like 20 and everyone around me seemed to have hard time believing we were a son and mother.
mom ntr kino
When I was 14 years old I had people in school ask me who the hot girl I was seen with all the time and I was extremely confused until It took me a while to realize it was my mom they were talking about.
i still get flustered thinking about when people used to think my sister and i were dating because she drove me to school every day. god i love incest
Can I fuck your sister?
>Asians don't age
That's a meme. They aren't different with us.
>Go with my mom anywhere
>People think im her husband
Why not? If she is fun to be around, don't look like a spawn of Cthulhu and aren't carrying around any diseases I would bang her as long as she would let me
25 years old virgin too
Difference is I could have actually lost it for years, I'm not bad looking and get frequently hit on by women, never kissed one by my own will but I got kissed by them and even ended up half naked in their bed (where I pretended to be asleep the whole night)
I just find most women disgusting, I want to have my first time with someone I genuinely love after kissing her in the rain like in a romance movie, not with some random whore that saw more cock than a urinal
But I'm starting to lose hope
If you're looking for a "pure virgin" you are about 60-100 years late to that party. You don't have to settle for someone that has a higher body count than Stalin but you'll probably have to accept that your partner has made a few bad choices in their life and have ended up with a body count of 2 or 3.
Would it really matter that much unless she is obviously carrying around baggage from it though? Like, if she is disease free, you love her and she truly loves you (which can be pretty hard to tell unless you have experience with relationships both platonic and romantic) why should you care?
Those guys are just really insecure or bad at bed which is why they reject a good woman for having a boyfriend in the past
I wouldn't blame them for that, people have some really fucked up views on what sex is thanks to promiscuity being praised from most of modern society along with having their views even more twisted by fiction because they have literally nothing else to pull experience from.
I have a small cock and am a virgin so if someone offered me sex I'd probably sweat bullets yeah
penis size genuinely does not matter unless it's so small that it's unusable
it's not about the act itself, it's more about the fact that you were able to court a woman. that validation breeds confidence
>it's not about the act itself
I wish that someone would have told me that sooner, I would have saved 200 bucks and I wouldn't have had to go and get my peepee checked for syphilis. Thankfully it was a false alarm but I got really spooked since the condom broke at the end
lmao that blows man. but hey at least you got some experience for next time
>unless it's so small that it's unusable
Nah it's a solid 4 inches but still
I was able to attract and sex no less than 3 women in my life, but I did some really fucked up shit to myself and totally destroyed my self confidence. Now I feel like a weird asshole all the time and I start to physically shake when a girl shows interest in me. I get so nervous that I actually go into flight-or-flight and nearly have a panic attack. Feels pretty bad, man.
>Now I feel like a weird asshole all the time and I start to physically
Can't be that bad.
It is. My hands and head vibrate, because I'm trying not to show how nervous I am. I function more or less normally talking to guys, but I feel so undeserving of love from a female that the mere possibility makes me freak out.
I meant what is it exactly you did that was so bad it screwed up your confidence?
Got high on meth and sucked off a homeless guy, then several months later got high on meth and fentanyl and ended up running for my life from another homeless guy who wanted me to suck his dick, who had a gun. Along with various other humiliations and disgusting acts brought about by hard drug use. I've since gotten my shit together, but I still feel like a junkie fucking waste.
>Would it really matter that much unless she is obviously carrying around baggage from it though?
Yes. Women literally pair bond to you when you take their virginity. It’s why the rate of divorce skyrockets with even 1 premarital sexual partner for women.
Anyone who’s taken a woman’s virginity knows, if you take her virginity you can treat her like complete shit, gas light the fuck out of her, even get a little physical and she’ll still be loyal to you. This is not true of promiscuous sluts.
>if you take her virginity you can treat her like complete shit, gas light the fuck out of her, even get a little physical and she’ll still be loyal to you.
Perhaps women don't want to date or even fuck you because you speak of being able to physically and psychologically abuse them as a positive factor.
Which is why so many high school relationships last. Wait a minute......
I don't care that much if she had partners before me, I just don't know how to meet "good" women naturally outside of bar and social media where the party whores are the majority
You and me both anon, be sure to spread the word if you ever figure that shit out. The most I've been able to sus out is what this anon says:
My porn history says I'm willing to go much higher, though I'm afraid of the idea that I could break some older woman's heart whose out there desperate to find a man to finally settle down with and then I just end up playing out my coguar fetish.
When you turn 25 your brain essentially starts dying from age.
That's what unironically a 20 year old slut once told me
A significant problem with a lot of men and women is that they do not know how to meet or date people. I'm a socially awkward autist.
Media paints a picture of bars and dating apps that genuinely does not work even for 99% of normies. Most successful relationships actually start in unexpected places and grow organically from friendships. This applies to the online world too. I met my wife on discord, and that's not uncommon. I didn't explicitly seek out a relationship, it just happened.
>I met my wife on discord
what the fuck? how
>tfw no tgirl wife
thanks for ruining my night anon
>Mutual interests in a server about 100% Orange Juice
talk about finding love in an unexpected place, god damn. maybe i should stop being so scared of discord
Mutual interests in a server about 100% Orange Juice (the game).
Fun fact, most women on discord don't actually advertise the fact because they don't want to be harassed.
>100% Orange Juice
you met her through that hellfest of a game of all things? I am speaking as somebody who actually plays it once in a while, it's less an insult and more an observation
is she autistic
>is she autistic
She plays 100% OJ and joined a discord about it.
Do fish swim? Do spiders spin webs? Of course she's a fucking autist.
I don't have any friends, only leave my room once a week for groceries, don't have any social media, live off disability support for my autism and don't have any hobby outside of anime and video game
how do I meet my future gf?
>Most successful relationships actually start in unexpected places and grow organically from friendships
It's a shame a lot of women I've met don't see it this way even though it's the optimal way of progressing relationships. They seem to separate friendship with relationship and don't evolve one into the other when the time's right.
>They seem to separate friendship with relationship and don't evolve one into the other when the time's right.
I hate to break it to you but you’re probably ugly and/or a massive autist because this is definitely not true lol.
Says you. You're probably an orbiter who thinks they got lucky with sloppy seconds when really she's the only thing on call ready to fuck that diseased pussy of hers.
>women don't date their friends and thats a bad thing
>yes they do
>w-well if they do thats a bad thing!
Who are you quoting?
I met my wife off a random meetup on Ganker lmao
Share a lot of the same interests and we hit it off.
why the hell would you want to meet a Ganker user in real life? especially if you're a woman?
This, there's been an unfortunate mixup with how many people assume dating should work and it results in shallow, short lived experiences
How it should be:
>meet someone, often through friends/school/work/hobbies >experience things together, get to truly know someone >develop feelings naturally over a moderate period of time >consider dating
How it is now:
>contrive a meeting >attempt to develop a shallow understanding of other person over 1-3 dates >force an attempt at romantic/sexual interaction >potentially develop proper feelings at a later date
A whole generation of people are being robbed of the intoxicating sweet experience of naturally developing feelings for someone.
If you try to actually get to know a woman and just talk as friends do she will get impatient and the 500 other men she has on retainer will ask her out instead. Such is life in the digital age.
My white friend has a fetish for thicc black chicks with big tits and recently hit it off with a girl that perfectly fits all of his tastes and they get along SUPER well, talk every single day, just started hanging out irl, and he found her just totally out of the blue one day on discord. Super fucking happy for him. But yeah, this shit just happens sometimes, it's wild.
LukeGAWD fucked her, but he ain't kiss
Imagine going on a school trip and your teacher is dressed like this?
I am 21, I lost my v to a 27 year old Moroccan girl a few months ago
Take HIV test now
Because absolutely no man wants used goods but some want hags.
I feel a lot better about not being in a relationship after noticing that some women actually lusted after me, I just don't lusted after them
These women were Black single moms. No matter how shit you are, as long as you're a single white male, they might be interested in you
Have you anons ever touched a sleeping girl before?
>Had a shit office job but make good money
>Have a son with wife
>He is sever autist
>He is 9yo
>Can't talk only makes weird noises
>Only play with baby toys
>He have to wear diapers because somedays he refuses to go to the bath
>Some days he becomes agresive amd destroys the house
>He only sleeps 3-4h
>No sex with wife (sex drive goes to 0 when you don't sleep a full night for years)
>Only fun thing of my life is playing some vidya in the bus to work
>Regret not being a comfy happy neet.
>start reading this
>get confused as to why you have a son
>realize it's the schizo copypasta when you say he's autistic
Because just like Dragons a Girl like this dont exist in Real Life
There are some 38 year olds I would fugg (for example, Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin is 37½ and I'd fuck her). But only for free. Since in actuality I can't get sex for free, the threshold is around 25.
I just want to hug someone
Last time I was in the packed tram and some girl glued herself to me and I genuinely had to force myself not to cry because it was the first time since my childhood I felt another human being' skin on me
The older and more virgin I become, the more I start to sympathize with those Epstein island morons.
>Turning 27 in December
But ya know at this point, I'm fine with it, I've accepted it's not happening and I won't do anything to try and make it happen
Why Ganker is so full of losers?
Because we're just like you.
Where else could we be open about our failure at life?
>asks this about a site that was initially created as a place for nerds, otakus and other kinds of outcasts to just come together and post shit anonymously
the place might have changed in the recent 10 years or so but still
I advocate for half of all incels to be put on HRT to become wives for the other half.
I will not elaborate.
Most of you are autists, so just find autist women. It's not hard.
I tried and she told me she was a lesbian
Find some autistic twink to fuck then just to own her
Where do you find autist women? Especially ones that aren't autist men?
Discord servers that are centered and focused on niche topics. Think stuff like 100% Orange Juice, or Dragon Age fan servers.
I'm a boomer, I don't know how discord works in the first place
If you're actually a boomer than you should just daddymax and you will have women and men literally throw themselves at you.
Not literally, and I'm a babyface so I probably won't pull the daddy shit until I start going grey.
I'm just a massive tech/social retard I didn't even get facebook when that was a thing. So moving onto social media for younger generations is even more foreign to me.
What the fuck is "Daddymax"?
can confirm. literally every good relationship i've ever had, romantic or not, happened by complete accident. i'd just randomly decide to join a discord server for whatever thing i'm into at the moment and i'd meet someone i'd otherwise never meet in a million years. the important thing is that you don't force it, i think
> he gets in conversations, most likely on voice, with randoms and thinks hes one of us
>and thinks hes one of us
Normalfags run this shithole now, Anon. It's sad but it's true.
i never said vc
In the 100% Orange Juice server I was in I never entered voice calls.
>unable to intitiate or take part in text conversations on discord
You're talking to multiple people right now, it's not disimilar. It's also not difficult when someone says something interesting to just start talking them in dms.
I've noticed in threads like this that the most brain rotted people will venhemently deny that this is a thing that happens.
Pick up artistry/red pill/mgtow and assorted incel brain rot strategies to find women are all based on the idea that forming a friendship with a woman in the first place is impossible, and additionally center around "forcing it", basically dating app tier strategies.
Reality is that if you keep open to the possibility you will find people like yourself who may be interested in strange places. It literally just happens randomly from then on.
okay except i'm 28 and i've never "randomly" met a woman who i would like to spend the rest of my life with, now what
Odds are you never even got to know them beyond a surface level.
you mean random strangers on the street, or the one obese girl i worked with at walmart? yeah no shit
Apparently your brain is so rotted by red pill pick up artistry that you don't even understand what I mean by 'random'.
No, you idiot, I'm not talking about trying to strike up conversation with someone randomly on the street, nobody does that. I'm talking about meeting someone via mutual interests (often online), slowly becoming friends, and then possibly more.
no, i know exactly what you mean, and i'm saying it didn't happen to me and probably won't unless i go out of my way to get it. you're a fucking clown, a fool, who thinks that because you got lucky, that means it must happen to everyone else too. your ignorance pisses me off, hence the sarcastic replies
>Dragon Age fan servers
Holy fucking EW.
Thats a sure way to get landwhales or crazy libtard feminists.
Stay away from Bioware fandoms, STAY AWAY.
there are no biological girls on the internet
online relationships are not real relationships
stop fucking spouting this shit saying you can get a fucking girlfriend on discord or Ganker or anywhere online
are you out of your fucking mind
>there are no biological girls on the internet
i dont care
>online relationships are not real relationships
i dont care
>stop fucking spouting this shit saying you can get a fucking girlfriend on discord or Ganker or anywhere online
yes you can. dont give up
a relationship with no real life physical interaction is not a fucking relationship
text on a screen means nothing and does nothing
there are no fucking girls on the internet, anyone claiming to be a girl is an attention whore that should shut the fuck up first and a chud second
They live together, you braindead retard. Noone said anything about "online only relationship".
then how come I've played online video games my entire life and am still a virgin then?
>They live together
So he claims
Yes anon, I would lie about my friend's experiences. Not even about mine, my friend's.In a thread where people vent about their emotional and sexual frustrations. All for a single (You)s. If I wanted (You)s I would just say something about trannies.
There are many reasons morons lie on here. Doesn't have to be for (You)s.
That's a lot of cope.
>online relationships are not real relationships
lmao do you think that we got married while in an online relationship? It's a starting point you doomer.
>there are no biological girls on the internet
retarded boomer this isnt 2007, roasties are everywhere on the internet now
even on Ganker we have /cgl/ is literally a 90% female (biological) board
My friend literally met his gf while playing League of Legends.
Then what the fuck do you want, some pity from internet strangers? You won't get any here. That is a horrible mindset, where you are such a failure that you know you are a failure and you just want some pity to feel better about yourself. Or if you want some (You)s, then here is one from me, but you won't get anymore.
>Then what the fuck do you want, some pity from internet strangers?
moron where did I ask for pity? You were the one that started responding to my vent post to give some self help advice.
bruh after you meet online you can meet irl
there's not some kind of forcefield preventing you from doing so
I don't have a car or a license
what part of no girls on the internet do you not fucking understand
okay so you're poor and that's why you cope pretend you have no chances online anyway because you know that if you did you wouldn't be able to follow through on it? suit yourself, nice defeatism with predictable result
>Be stay at home loser
>Somehow try to find another stay at home loser of the opposite gender
Not going to happen, be like telling two buckets of rats who won't leave to find the other bucket in a sea of buckets
Yeah it's one of those things that is incredibly obvious when you think about it. It's not that stay at home loser autistic women don't exist, it's just that they stay at home just like you do.
>Le daily failed normalfag thread
Nobody cares, morons. Either go get some roastie whore or take the 2Dpill already. Christ.
I'll be 38 in 3 years so I suppose I would be okay with a little bit of an older girl
I have a corruption fetish involving virgin men.
based virgin prude too scared of handholding who fetishizes being a gangbang dom slut
they are all brain-damaged pedos
I was a virgin freak until 27 and now at 34 I have a wife and a baby on the way.
Don't lose hope
it's not your kid.
stop projecting your country on others, ameriburger
France more than the rest of this list, Germany, uk, Spain etc all have this issue
Then korea, china, and Japan
Ffs even in sand bag land women are still getting melted for being slooty
Kid is black. Mark my words
I was telling myself the same then I became a lonely old man.
26 here on road to wizardhood
I pussied out of asking any girls out in hs and since then I've only asked out 3 women who all said no and now I know no women.
>tfw the incels were right all along and women are starting to say the quite part out loud
>tfw it turns out there actually was a reason that every successful human civilization for tens of thousands of years up until the last century or so had severe restrictions on the rights and social behavior of women
>where do you find autistic intelligent women who are as much of an anxious mess as you are
the average phd program contains these types in droves.
It's funny, if the average man wasn't so willing to date literally any female, all men would have an easier time getting dates, since women wouldn't have a constant flood of male attention. But the average man can't do that, he must hit on every female he sees, it's in his nature, and thus he dooms himself and his fellow man.
every guy should just jerk off when they feel horny over a girl and see if they still feel that way once they cum
I literally do this as a test when I start thinking about asking a girl out. If I don't really feel like doing it anymore, I don't. So far, I have never asked a girl out.
Most people are not worth it.
I've had mid tier 5/10 girl to like me, but they gave me psycho stalker girlfriend vibes, so I never told them yes when they invited me.
Also, single mother are easy, but they have a lot of baggage. Look up 'why you shouldn't date a single mom'.
this thread is making me cry
I've been a shut in neet for nearly 8 years, I never even leave my house and I don't talk to anyone or have any friends
I'm a virgin and have never been in a relationship, and I can't even try because I'm so mentally ill I cannot leave the house or talk to anyone
I'm so horribly lonely and my family is terrible so I don't even have them to fall back on
I've never been loved by anyone in my life
I want to die but suicide is too much effort
I've never had a job and my parents are poor and in their late 60s and shitty yet I'm completely dependent on them
I just want a fucking girlfriend
I don't care about anything else
I just want someone to tell me I'm able to be loved and appreciate me for existing so that I can fucking live my life and feel any emotion besides complete emptiness
I think what you need is a friend before you get a girlfriend
Yeah dude no bitch can motivate you like a good bro can.
whenever i see anons like you i can't help but think "i can fix him"
A girlfriend isn't going to fix your situation, a job is.
There's no point in getting a gf if you can't pay for anything and go on dates with her. Fuck you gonna do, sit in your smelly NEET room with her all day?
I don't want to go on "dates" where I have to spend money and go outside doing shit I would never do normally and that freaks me out or makes me uncomfortable
I also don't have a license or car so I can't go anywhere or work even if I was capable and wanted to
you are full of shit
I have never had a genuine connection with anyone, anyone I've called a "friend" has abandoned me and never truly was someone I could be comfortable with
having a girl to just wordlessly cuddle me every day would give me more motivation to live and succeed than anything else in the world
>girl to just wordlessly cuddle me every day
Anon those aren't real? Like realistically that absolutely won't happen, if you got that dependant she'd probably leave you, not because her feelings would disappear but because that's not something people can constantly keep up especially if you aren't improving yourself, what you're describing is a mother figure which probably would be pretty apparent to them
Having motivation to live and succeed is prerequisite to having gf. It will never happen before the fact. You will have build yourself to be attractive. What do you have, why would anyone connect with you? You will have to solve that puzzle first before anything else is possible.
I'm good at video games
I have long hair
I would be very affectionate if anyone would just give me the opportunity
I'm sorry my friend, that's just not enough. You're living in dreamland. There's a way out but you need to start clawing your way out. Right fucking now. It's going to really suck, but it must be done.
I know it's obvious and a hard task, but you should start with fixing your problems and learning to love yourself
I cannot love myself until someone else loves me and proves that I am loveable
I get no validation or pride from myself and never have my entire life
I need other people to validate me
Any therapist would tell you the direct opposite of this
No one will love you if you can't love yourself
I don't care what a therapist would say
that's the truth and nothing will change it
>that's the truth and nothing will change it
This is your problem right here, this shit attitude.
Why would someone love you if you are nothing? why would someone love you if you don't love yourself?
If you don't love yourself its because you are not worth it. Love yourself doesn't fucking mean "love yourself despite your shitty behaviors", no, it means get to a point where you are the person you want to be, or at least try to get there, then you will start to love yourself and someone else will.
But alright, don't improve, keep eating garbage, keep being a stinky neet, keep being a nobody.
No girl cared yesterday, no girl will care tomorrow.
stfu retard watch evangelion
this is a story you tell yourself
no part of this is substantiated by anything
the love of other people will not fill the void in your soul, that's a pipedream
Don't go for GF anon, what you need is therapy and a actual friendship. You are already speaking about your problems on a (not so anonymous) anonymous website, try to use anonymity to your advantage if it helps you come out of your shell.
Try creating a Discord/Twitter/Reddit/YouTube/Steam or whatever persona that doesn't tie back to your normal life at all and use that to act like the person that you want to be. Sooner or later the feedback from that will start affecting you personally in some way and once you feel ready you can start applying that experience in other parts of your life. Just keep trying anon and know that you are not alone, even if you feel alone there are countless other people out there that are going through the same thing
I've tried that, I've even opened up to people through stuff like discord but they always get sick of me and stop talking to me or just degenerate into single word responses and never want to do anything with me like play games and I feel like I've just wasted my time even trying
I've been abandoned too many times to try and keep up talking to people who don't care about me
That is why you should at the very least try therapy, literally anything you can afford and/or that you feel comfortable doing. See it as training exercises for real relationships since any good brain drainer will be able to find a way to atleast put you on the right path. It's what worked for me and I was in a fairly similar position to yours 5ish years ago
Therapy only works on npcs.
The point of therapy is not even to really fix your mental issues anyways, it is to gasslight you into a state of copium where you can engage with the work force productively again.
True, but only because the definition of healthy and functional means to be dependent on the state to feed you currency in return for your exploited labor.
There is a true health that therapy can still assist with as a side-effect. If only to prompt your own self-exploration and give an improvement oriented mindset. That said, you can truly figure all of this shit out on your own if you actually take the time to do so and aren't completely delusional.
I'm not an NPC but it worked on me
This is kind of true and one of the first hurdles that you need to get over before therapist can actually help you. They aren't actually fixing anything, what they are doing is untangling your mind in some way and then build scaffolding around it so that you can start repairing it yourself while they stay at the back to make sure that you stick to the plan and that you keep getting the motivation/mental energy you need to keep working on it until you are at a point where they aren't needed anymore
>that you feel comfortable doing
I don't even feel comfortable buying things at a register in a gas station because I have to talk to the cashier
also I'm going to be too old to be on my dad's health insurance in like 2 months and he made fun of me when I even hinted I think I might have some kind of mental illness and he would have to be involved because I can't drive myself
therapy is not happening
Online therapy exists for a reason anon and would you rather continue living with your problems as they exist now or would you like to atleast reach a point where you don't feel so bad before you die?
This shit takes time, for some it takes weeks for others it takes decades but you will never know which one you are until you try. Try to watch some of this guys stuff, I can't personally vouch for him but I know a few people that can and most of the stuff he does is free of charge, it might point you in the right direction: youtube.com/watch?v=YuLfFqPFrkc&t=8s&pp=ygUKR0cgdGhlcmFweQ%3D%3D
No one has ever improved their lives without trying this
is just doomerism. If you are socially awkward for whatever reason or trauma talking is trying.
Try, talk to people, for the love of god, make male friends, normal male friends not other neets, talk to women in a non desperate way, get a haircut, groom yourself, bath regularly, use moderate lotion.
Get a job, that should be your primary objetive, how do you want a fucking girlfriend if you don't have a job? women are expensive, and no, she's not a whore for demanding your time and some of your money. Lower your standards a bit, improve anon, IMPROVE.
IF you didn't brush your teeth yesterday do it now, do something.
>she's not a whore for demanding your time and some of your money.
You're right, that makes her a gold digger
Tried that 10 years ago. Failed. Have accepted my fate. My destiny to be a wizard.
>be shut-in NEET as well
>feel like I'm way too used to being alone at this point to handle a relationship
>feel like I don't really get lonely like other people do, though it might just be because I'm autistic
I was a neet for 11 years, wasted my entire 20s and ascended to wizard status. Unless you are rich or you have skills to become rich when you're forced out into the world you are basically super fucked my man
you need to rip off the band-aid asap and do something now, not saying it's going to make you happy or anything it's just basic survival
do you have anything specific to say
I've read posts like yours literally thousands of times at this point
it doesn't mean anything to me
he's already saying something specific to you, you're just dismissing it
act or die, act or die, act or die
get it through your thick self-absorbed skull
I want specific advice
what exactly do I do
what job do I get
where do I go
what does "super fucked" mean specifically what exactly will happen
I don't want this vague bullshit that isn't actually saying anything
we can't give shit like that, we don't know you
YOU KNOW YOU, look it the fuck up, ask your parents, ask people you know, check job magazines, check government employment services, check welfare options, check therapy, whatever else
super fucked just means that when your parents' income flow stops and your government doesn't run a charity for disasters like you, you will simply enter the irreversible realm of poverty with all of its obvious consequences
>what exactly do I do
Get a job for some basic confidence
>what job do I get
Literally any job that's not illegal. It will teach you something. If you don't like it get another job. And now something really important: get good at your job. If you can't get good at it or there's no room to get better try another job. As many times as it takes. Many people get stuck on maintenance mode, but you'll need to improve. Secret of success is that small things will feedback into bigger successes. Start simple and your ambition will increase with success. Humans are hardwired to work, don't fight it.
you say this like getting a job is somehow simple and not fucking impossible
It not impossible but you will have to pay for it. I got my job working literally for free, as a trainee/intern. For 6 months I received no salary, only what I got from government welfare. Paid for my own bus transportation out of pocket. Still did my job well enough for the employer to want to start paying me afterwards. Not much but if you start taking responsibility for important tasks and do them well the boss will have a hard time replacing you even if he wanted, so it's easier for him to pay you. I'm now working in IT with ridiculous salary but still KHHV. Regardless I'm in much better position mentally.
How'd you get that internship? University? You gotta realize these Neets don't even have a degree.
Employment office has website where they offer various training programs. No college needed. I had to submit 1 minute video application which was insanely hard for a turbosperg like me. Can't remember how many takes it took. But I got in one eventually.
>can't remember how many takes it took
is it because it always felt wrong and your autismo wanted it to be perfect?
That's part of it but I had a very hard time looking even a camera in the eye, let alone a person. Still have trouble but not so bad anymore.
Oh, that's neat and helpful. Thanks for the clarification, anon.
You have a computer science degree for that? Mine is a worthless arts one
I had a STEM degree (not related to the job applied) which definitely helped but plenty other accepted trainee "classmates" had some bullshit useless ones too and some had pretty much none.
You family line continued for thousands of years so you could see the modern world... and now it ends.
if my ancestors had hentai you bet your sweet fucking bippy i wouldn't exist
Nope. My brother and sister have had kids so the bloodline lives on. My other brother and sister don't have any kids and are probably too old for it now. They're normies. Nobody considers them incel losers because they're unmarried and without kids. I feel no shame.
None of my brothers are having kids either, but at least my uncle did.
>and now it ends.
My ancestors didn't have the social deck stacked against them with porn, porn, porn, social media (and all that entails) and more porn. Society is poisoned in a way that it has never been before so I doubt anyone who lived 200 years ago would be any better at this shit than I am
>girl is 25+ years old
>no one wants to date her
>Why is it so common in Japanese media?
Because it's relatively common in Japanese society.
And to add to it, people fantasise about finding one of the good ones before even if they're pushing the expiry date. Making their prevalence in media even higher.
Still a bit of a niche media concept relatively broadly speaking. But it explains their relevance.
I had a normal-ish social life around age 15-17, had a girlfriend and even had sex once. That was the only time I had sex. I'm 33 now.
You may only reply to this post if you're a Wizard.
Can someone enlighten me to what the requirements are for becoming a wizard? How long to I have to stay a kissless virgin in order to achieve wizardhood? Are there any other requirements?
Virgin til' 30. Simple as.
So basically just continue with my life's trajectory. Gotcha.
37 yo wizard here.
Reporting in learning advance magic missile tomorrow.
Chaos is the only true answer.
my heart goes out to all of you lonely people
you're not alone in this hell
because it's a male fantasy and japs aren't cucked to only make appealing media for women or degenerates
What male fantasizes about getting a fucked up middle-aged femcel?
>Cute woman who's exhausted of life but totally wants to fuck
I NEED a femcel gf and I'm not ashamed to admit it
yeah haha what man would want a virgin woman hahaha that'd be so silly
I'm 26 and I waited long enough. Then I realised my country has a vast prostitution options. So I lost my kissless virginity with an expensive escort and became a whorehound. There is a price range where they are not quite a town bycicle yet also not arrogant, cold bitches. Besides, I'm not that ugly, just autistic and socially inept.
All women are whores. Actual hookers are at the very least skilled in what they do and sometimes even nice to talk to. No social pressure, no relationship bullshit. No care about your hierarchy garbage of chads/alphas/betas/incels/whatever social gayry you come up with. Just pure lust and gorging on the warm, supple masses of gentle female flesh.
>paying for sex
You can cope all you want but that is pathetic as hell. At least have the balls to rape a bitch.
Women WANT you to pay for sex.
Hell, why do you think Onlyfans exist?
>giving women what they want
Like I said, pathetic.
Yes. It is called a transaction.
>Giving the grocer what they want
The grocer worked hard. Women do not.
>Scan item put in bag
They don't even put it into bags where I live, they just shove items back into a spare cart
Work isn't even that hard but women would sooner sully their honor than do even a modicum of work. It's no coincidence that only once women entered the workforce are we suddenly hearing all about how hard work is, how "work life balance" needs to be a thing, how working from home needs to be a thing, how four day work weeks need to be a thing, etc., etc. Women are just born lazy and will never not be lazy. That's why women never achieve anything and the world was built by men.
>Just pure lust and gorging on the warm, supple masses of gentle female flesh
I just fuck them because they needed my meat.
I did the same at 32, but I quickly graduated from escorts to sugar dating.
See, most girls don't want to think of themselves as whores: the fact that only a relatively small minority are selling themselves despite in a sense having as good hourly wages as CEOs is evidence enough. On the other hand, most girls don't actually mind dating average people: it's the 80:20 gender imbalance on Tinder that might cause you to think that, in actuality there are lots and lots of couples that aren't the slightest bit looksmatched (when traits other than pure looks, the only one available in online dating, may work their magic). Turns out these factors together create a loophole: you pay, not for sex per se (after all, the girl you're dating doesn't see herself as a whore), but for skipping the queue of potential dates (because they actually don't mind going on a date, it's just that Tinder algorithm would never bring you two together).
The benefits, as I see it, are as follows:
>You get the same treatment as a date found off Tinder or bars or whatever would get: "real" non-faked GFE, and ordinary girls often are less inhibited and more adventurous than sex workers are (for understandable safety reasons)
>You get to try out (and enjoy) dating and not just sex. Of course you can take most escorts to a restraurants also, but they charge by time
>It's cheaper, at least if you go for longer meetings.
>There are more younger (18-25) girls in sugar dating scene than sex work
>Like escorts, long-term commitment isn't necessary
Of course, it's more difficult than whoremongering: by its very nature the girls don't come available around the clock with with full list of services and prices and you have to negotiate and court them a bit (but on faceroll pay2win difficulty), but I think it's well worth it. I have met enough top-rated escorts to know what faked affection looks like, and I'm pretty sure some random teenager isn't better at it
This fucking thread.
>KHV at 26
>Unironically haven't talked to, interacted with or even been in the same room with a female in a good decade
>No one has cared enough to even ask themselves "what's wrong with him"
When I was a teenager I used to say I hate women because I thought "negative attention is still attention" but that didn't work out and now I hate them for real.
I'm 31 and speaking to a 19 year old who seems infatuated with me. I told someone and they looked disgusted. Is the age gap too big? She's relly sexy and funny and I enjoy spending time with her.
the rule is that 1/2(your age) + 7 is the youngest you can date without it being creepy, so by that standard yeah she's a little bit too young. but you're both adults so at the end of the day the age gap doesn't really matter
The rule is whatever the rule of law in your country is, actually.
as far as the law is concerned the second a girl turns 18 (or whatever it is) they're free to get fucked by old ugly bastards as much as they want, i'm talking about rules in a social context
I'm about to study advanced math and physics to prove how and why 14+7=12.
wait a minute... those numbers don't add up right...
People will recoil in disgust and call you a cradle robber at an age gap more than like 5 years but I'm pretty sure the stigma is from jealous older women than anything else
>1.-You're doing nothing wrong
>2.- The person you told about it likely voted for Biden, in fact I'm sure of it, so leftist moron opinions don't matter
>3.- Just make sure you have a way to blackmail her back when she tries to say you sexually assaulted her to ruin your life for fun when she's bored (It's only a matter of time, all females are scum)
Oh, and remember to get the fuck out of there if she's not a virgin.
(31 + 7) / 2 = 19
At the very borderline, but should be fine.
who gives a fuck about what roasties and normalmorons think
the only thing that should matter is that you don't go to fucking jail, which is already bullshit enough when girls are mature in their early teens anyway
>who gives a fuck about what roasties and normalmorons think
yeah, that's why i said that since they're both adults it's fine at the end of the day. you'll have to deal with weird looks from time to time but if you really love her then you won't care
Is it legal?
Does it make you happy?
If the answer to both is yes, then why the fuck do you care what other jealous people are going to say.
I'm currently dating a 19yo and I'm 29 (I usually date within two years of my age)
>people with dyed hair and alternative genders will loath you to a near psychotic level
>a large portion of women and a smaller portion of men, especially under 30, will likely think you're a creep if they don't know you to be an alright guy
>older men will secretly think it's cool
>people who actually have things going on in their lives wont really care (eg. actual productive adults), but may do a bit of performative indignation.
If you treat her well and aren't a complete drop-kick then people will come around but you're definitely going to cop an amount of stigma. It's one of the most uniquely emotionally draining relationships I've had due to 90% external reasons.
Tell them they pay taxes to pedos.
>Is the age gap too big?
No, and anyone who says otherwise is jealous. Ignore them man, you're both adults and if you're both happy with it then that's all that matters.
I'm 29 turning 30 in a few months. Girlfriend was 19 just turned 20 in April. There's nothing wrong with it if both parties are consenting and you understand how other people might look at it. Personally my parents don't even give a fuck. My mom said after 18 and out of school age is just a number. Most people don't give a shit enough to ask about an age difference anyways as long as you don't look like you're 80 and she looks like a model.
Shy and anxious men and women are the most depraved sexually. I'm entirely serious, if someone is a virgin at 25 then their internal erotic fantasy life is probably somewhat fringe, and if you actually take their virginity they will do almost anything eagerly. Fast learners too.
God I would turn her over and cover with a blanket then serve her breakfast in bed
There's a lot of angry roast beef in this thread, lmao.
>Works as a prostitute
There is also a joke that compares Christmas to a woman's age. Cake shops throughout Japan always try to sell all their Christmas cakes before Christmas Eve. Any cakes left after Christmas are seen to be very old or out-of-date. Unmarried women over 25 years old used to be called 'unsold Christmas cake'. Since the average age for marriage has changed, with people marrying older and older, and even day-old cakes are delicious, this joke is falling out of use.
An associated Japanese concept is the Christmas Cake (formerly a separate trope): the idea that just as a Christmas cake stops being desirable after December 25, a woman stops being desirable for marriage after age 25. This has since given way to the less popular "New Years' Noodles", where the age limit is increased to 31 (after December 31).
>tranime weebs finally facing the consequences of their actions once they hit their 30s
Lol, should have faked it till you made it. Another W for Normalfags.
I'm a tranime weeb and even I've had irl gfs (both male and female)
You're not even a real weeb
Why am I single? let's see
>4.5 billion women
>Specific ethnicities only. No morons allowed, no ugly SE asians, so that cuts it down to 1 billion
>Obviously no kids (thanks society) and no old fucks so that cuts it down to 200 million
>Need to be in the same country, that cuts it down to maybe around 7 million
>No fatties allowed, cut down to 2 million
>Can't be a druggie either or have tattoos, down to 1.7 million
>Needs to be funny, cuts down to 0
but women are funny, just not intentional
the trick is to laugh at them, not with them
I'm 27 and I had my first "kiss" at a house party 2 years ago. Naturally I didn't know what to do and fucked it up, the girl just avoided me for the rest of the night. I asked if I could kiss her so it's not like it was a forced thing, we were vibing all night until then.
It boosted my confidence knowing that a cute girl would actually be willing to kiss me, but fucking it up just cancelled that out. If you've not experienced teen romance when it's okay to make mistakes literally HOW are you meant to learn how to do this shit? Do I have to hire a hooker just to learn how to kiss someone?
Bro, just watch amateur porn (actual amateur porn) and watch how they kiss. It worked for me.
Alright man I'll try that at this point I've got nothing to lose. If the occasion arises again I'll go for it just the same it just sucks having that shit in the back of your mind. Ideally I'd wanna meet someone who you can be honest with and tell that you have no experience but that's probably just a massive turnoff so just have to not bring it up and hope for the best. Just sucks having these issues at this age I guess.
just clicked this thread, i guess the rest of it looks just like this post
>everything gets worse every year
>but hey I got the weekends and goyslop to keep me at bay!
Have you seen their teeth?
Please tell me you don't assume all japs look like anime characters.
Stop living in the imaginary world, imbecile. Media is not real.
>Lived in Japan for about 6 years now
>2m tall and blond hair blue eyes
>Now a 30yo virgin
JBW was a meme
You live near Tokyo/Yokohama?
I can take you out to some bars and get you some slant bro. You better speak nip and not be a dancing English monkey though.
>You live near Tokyo/Yokohama?
>You better speak nip
>dancing English monkey though.
I'm not, and I'm not an navyboi
blows my mind how people live and presumably work in nippon without knowing any japanese at all. you must do remote work for an english-speaking company or something
How do you live in japan for 6 years and learn the fucking language?
That's where the alcoholic part comes in
Then stop drinking alone in your room and hit up the bars at least.
I live in Tokyo too and want to hear some recommendations, mostly been going to anison bars in Akiba for that sweet jirai kei menhera pussy but want to find a place where actual good women meet
>>Now a 30yo virgin
Anon, just go to a red district. How expensive could an underage coochie be??
You either look or act like a shrek.
An iota of confidence would carry you to victory.
>If I had my geetar and singing skills 15 years ago I could've had something with my 6th grade crush and lived a very different life
I'm always FUCKING late to everything
> I could've had something with my 6th grade crush
You really need to move on. You're in your 20's thinking about a 6th grade crush? The absolute hellscape that is your psyche
I got my first gf in 6th grade by just working up the courage to ask her if she wanted to walk home together one day since we walked more than half the way in the same direction. I was absolutely terrified but all it took was that one question and from then on we went home together everyday. You dont need any quirky cool things to get people to notice and like you, especially not at that age. You just didn't shoot your shot as they say
I fucked up that relationship btw I'm not perfect either I'm a retard
>You're in your 20's thinking about a 6th grade crush?
I LOVED HER BRO
SHE WAS PURE AND CUTE AND NOW SHE'S PROBABLY A FILTHY NONVIRGIN
IT'S NOT FAIR
It's okay bro, I feel the same about a few crushes I've had through middle school and early high school.
>Suddenly remember a girl you didn't mind being with and shooting shit admitted to liking you years after high school
I am the most dense fucker on this site
>Seeing people on facebook now you knew from years ago getting married
bro, I remember seeing people I knew in school blowing out kids at like 21
it's insane to me how you'd want to throw the best years of your life away like that, but to each their own I guess
>I am the most dense fucker on this site
I had a girl basically ask me out in high school and I wasted the opportunity. I didn't even realize she was asking to go out with me as a date until 2 years later. I think I'm the one who should be claiming that title.
>admitted to liking you
I've had multiple girls just flat out ask to date me. Two of them were fucking hot. One competed as a gymnast in the Olympics. Turned them all down. I'm not an incel. I'm a vocel, the peak male.
>be me in high school
>friends with some normie chick over a mutual love for higurashi of all things
>asked me to fuck once
>"lmao nice joke bro"
>told me that as soon as i got into college chicks would be all over me
>"lmao thanks i guess"
>would share a pair of earbuds with me and listen to music during the class we had together because the teacher didn't give a shit
>didnt put the pieces together for years
autism is my superpower
>all my cousins younger than me are having kids
>one female cousin is on like her third kid
>ive never even kissed a girl
>tfw my little sister already has a daughter that turns 2 this year while I have never even kissed a girl
That sounds shitty, kids are obnoxious as hell. I can't imagine being forced to interact with them just because "they're family". Fuck that.
Kids are wonderful. I enjoy spending time with my niece, she adorable. There is something quite enchanting and energizing in the genuine wonder and happiness at life that such young children have. Last time I saw her and she recognized me by name just melted my heart. There is nothing quite like seeing a little girl run up to you with a smile on her face and ask for a hug.
You sound like a pedo. I have a niece. I find her boring and unrelatable. I pretty much ignore her.
>You sound like a pedo.
What the hell is wrong with you?
I am far from a normalfag, I am a fucking loser trough and trough, but for some reason my sister wanted me to be a godfather to her daughter.
>What the hell is wrong with you?
What the hell is wrong with YOU? You're the one that seems to be in love with his underage niece.
human beings are basically hardwired to find kids to be adorable. that's kinda how we survived as a species. personally i think children are fucking repulsive, they're loud and disgusting and retarded, but even so i catch myself daydreaming about starting a family one day
Human beings are hardwired to want to protect children. I'll protect children but I don't want to play boring games with them or have boring conversations. If it was my kid then that'd be one thing but other people's kids can fuck off.
my problem is that early on, human offspring are fucking helpless and very loud.
like sure, a 8 year old is still likely to be stupid/naive, but they at least have SOME sort of self-preservation instinct and ability to not kill themselves, unlike something like a 2 year old. I don't even remember anything that happened in my first 3 years, my oldest memory is from like age of 4
My earliest memory is of me being in a stroller and dropping a toy, but having my parents continue on and not go back for it. I don't know if it's a fabricated memory or a dream, but I know that I've had this memory ever since I was little. The memory probably isn't 100% accurate either since I was obviously like 2 or 3 and it's EXTREMELY vague.
That's until you have one of your own.
Having one calling you daddy will warm even the most misantropic schizoid.
I can't even daydream about starting a family.
even in my imagination the thought of anyone taking a substantial interest in me is so absurd, my mind will literally cut the fantasy short and bombard me with abuse and memories reminding me I'm trash.
moron I just said that I found her adorable and her antics cute. Nowhere in my post did I say I was in love with my niece. There has to be something fucking wrong with you in your head if you read my post and interpreted it as pedophilic in some way.
>a little girl run up to you with a smile on her face and ask for a hug
I feel like I would get arrested on the spot if that happened. Only normalfags can experience such joy.
One day we'll get to be fathers. Never give up bros. I want one day to be a father and make my kids feel happy and safe and teach them lots of useful things.
Oh no no, fuck that my bro. I just wanna be hugged by a e-boi, not to have to take care of a parasite for 18 years.
>thinking your kid will move out at 18 in the future economy.
You're gonna be looking after them til they're 50 or they die of heart failure do to all the mRNA shots they'll be forced to take.
I felt about the same when I was babysitting for my cousin. His 5 year old son has this genuine excitement about everything and even though it felt a bit awkward at first since I've never really interacted with anyone younger than 15 for years now he quickly rubbed of on me to the point where just walking down to the park and feeding the ducks were fun in its own way.
I'm glad that I can return him to his dad though since the temper tantrums alone makes me happy that I don't have a kid of my own and I feel sorry for my parents who probably had to go through the same thing when I was his age
My niece is a bit too young for properly playing with her beyond simple shit like stacking blocks etc, but even still her energetic attitude is quite infectious. Just simple shit like doodling moomins on the paper she is scribbling stuff on and seeing her face light up as she recognizes the characters I doodled is fun in it's own, simple way.
Yeah I can only imagine. Another thing that I'm glad about not having to deal with though is all of the snot, I never really knew how "sticky" young children were until I baby sat that little guy. I don't know if he had a cold without showing any other symptoms or if he had allergies to something in my apartment/to something in the parks because he spread his slime fucking EVERYWHERE. I had to carry two rolls of toilet paper with me at all times to wipe down whatever he was close to for too long and to give him something to blow his nows with
>Had a few girls flirt with me a lot back in school.
>Automatically assumed they were just fucking with me and never bothered with them.
Same here. I just didn't know how to respond, I was too used to being made fun of for being a sperg or an autismo when I was younger
>I can't sleep unless I look at a pov pic of a sleeping anime girl and imagine I'm there in bed with her
It doesn't get any better than this, does it
i think what you meant to post was
>why, yes. it's impossible for me to sleep unless i say goodnight to my wife. how could you tell?
It could be worse. I hate myself so much I feel very awkward when anime girls look at the "camera" because I feel they shouldn't look at something like me and they deserve something better.
>Anime girls looks at camera
>Instinctively look away
It fucking sucks so much bro
I might try doing this, but the light from my phone kills my sleep. even at the lowest brightness.
but hey at least you're not falling asleep to nsfw rp audios of mommies fucking their sons
But anon I am
BabyPinkASMR is a fucking godsend
>Girl is a 25+ year old kinda slutty non-married woman
>She's suddenly incredibly sweet, caring and fucking amazing in helping you get over your anxieties and fears about sex and love.
>Her desire to help you to lose your virginity and become a better more confident person is bad because she had sex a few times before you.
I actually don't care what this thread is about..
Sluts > Virgins
It's interesting just how in about every single culture, an unwed childless woman is considered a total failure past a certain age. It places them at the lowest spot of the totem pole, and if you ask me, they don't deserve any sympathy. How do you fuck up while having it so easy?
I think if you feel like a total loser, you should reflect on that a bit. You don't have it that bad.
Your peak is always in your hands and it doesn't go away until the day you die.
Anyway, 2D hags are super cute. I like Sae.
Another reminder that if you are white, you will never be an incel. You can go to South East Asia, Africa, Middle East etc. and get free pussy just for being white.
You are a fakecel.
I'm brown. Now what?
Most people live paycheck to paycheck. An international trip is insanely expensive just from the flight cost alone.
Correct, I'm a vocel
Shit has become too expenive
>janny doesn't touch an incel thread for 2 hours
really makes you think
The one thing you losers all have in common is Ganker, but you can't seem to recognise its the cause of all your problems
It's also the cure for most of them.
Luckily I rarely come to Ganker anymore. This board is irreparably shit now.
i think as long as you don't take any of the shit that's posted here too seriously, you're fine
not the cause, more like a symptom, but it sure is a treatable one and life literally improves universally when you cut stupid toxic forums out of your life
so many people here have built a retarded persona on being internet-tough yet all they do is cry on the inside over how unsatisfied they are, it's so backwards
Nah I was this big a loser before Ganker, it's just a crutch , if it weren't for here it'd probably be somewhere else. Ganker isn't healthy but it's more a symptom than the cause.
Same here. I was already an adult when I started coming here, and I was very reclusive even back when I was a kid.
If I wasn't sitting on here I would be sitting on Wizardchan instead.
Almost as pretentious as those oldfag-larping twats pretending it's 2005 again
Yeah, but it's a HELL of a lot better then having to deal with all the normalmorons on here now.
It's not tho I spent 2 years away from this place. going out, starting somewhere new with optimism.
keeping fit and motivated.
but all of it just made it all the more clear how little I fit in anywhere.
a very cute girl at my work tried being nice and was amazing to me and inadvertently helped me realise what a piece of shit I am.
I'm just garbage and all that effort didn't matter. because at the end of the day I'm still me.
even at my best there's still nothing to me. I'm just on the edges of other peoples lives watching everyone pass by me.
Because japanese women hit the wall really fast in real life, and they are extremely calculative and heartless.
So, when their looks is gone, the men stay the hell away from them.
Anime and manga make them look always young and pretty, so that's why the perception of that meme is flawed.
>no skills and never had a job
>ugly with bad teeth
>never had a girlfriend
>haven't had any friends in 10 years
>am too ashamed of myself to talk to anyone and when i do i have nothing to say to anyone because ive done nothing but consume stupid media for 10 years
how did i let it get to this
you're only 28 bro, and with the way medical science is advancing everyone itt is probably going to live to be at least 100. so statistically you're barely past a quarter of your life. everything you just listed except for your age can be changed, and its never too late to start. it aint over til its over kemosabe
Average life expectancy is actually dropping.
even if you're correct it doesn't invalidate my point, now you can either stop posting frogs and improve your situation or be content with your shitty life as it is right now
> yo bro you only gotta suffer 75 more years of this 🙂
People are living longer but the quality of life for the different age brackets remain unchanged. For males it's basically over at around 50. That's the point where the body starts to decline very rapidly and it begins to suck to live. Modern medical science can keep you living for longer but it can't really do much to make it not suck to live.
the zen master ryokan pulled some hot tight 29 year old snatch at the age of 70 despite being a filthy hobo. one of these days you're going to have to accept that most of your obstacles in life are mental ones you created
If I had no standards and only wanted to get laid I'd just start volunteering at women's mental health clinics.
so you admit that it's possible
Nta but the point isn't whether or not it is or isn't possible to get laid as an old and undesirable person. The point is we just want to be fucking happy and have a normal life that involves having sex with a partner, and having kids. Getting random poon from literal mental patients or random crack whores doesn't actually solve the problem. It's not going to make anyone any happier.
Holy shit does it really sucks THIS bad to be a USA citizen?
i always wanted to be one
At least you're honest, for once
>Does it really suck to live in a nation where most people are fat landwhales who also have a fucking awful personality ruled by an overreaching government that openly steals elections
Gee Anon, what do you think?
>Gee Anon, what do you think?
I think lots of people must do something about this bad situation
It is a bad situation. But you know what they say, not my problem!
America is finished, economicly, relationship wise, everything.
I just pray for a total economic collapse, so that maybe the normies will finally understand the mess they made, and let happen to them.
nobody can beat me
>had a couple jobs
>been on one date ever
>registered sex offender for the next 8 years minimum because the cops found e-boicon on my computer and i live in a country where it's illegal, yes i still come to Ganker
you haven't experienced being social poison until you're at my level
kek what country?
Well obviously they didn't tell me (why would the cops tell you what sting you were a part of when it's probably still going) but I can guess that they checked it because I was a habitual porn collector and torrented shitloads of e-boi manga and hentai without a vpn because I was dumb and cocky. I had like at least a terabyte of e-boicon which is why I am so cucked by the sex offender's register for non-real CP. It did end up putting it into perspective that all normies think e-boi is literally child rape worthy of a death penalty when my life came falling down around me.
i worked for a telecommunications company and the only way the cops have access to that kind of shit is if you got caught in a sting operation or somebody in your family/friend group reported you but i cant imagine cops putting together a sting over fucking e-boi doujins
cops dont have the resources to monitor every single download on the internet
still its all drawings so i dont think you should be treated like an actual kidfucker is
why did the cops search your computer in the first place
What were the police doing on your computer?
Does that mean if you own a computer police are monitoring this thread now with the spyware they install on it?
>found e-boicon on my computer
ausfag? Why were they checking your computer?
If the cops were checking out your PC then you were probably registered as a sex offender for more than just e-boi pics anon, even if that shit is illegal in your country. I hope that your definition of e-boi is the same as mine, if you had some actual CP on your drives then you are fucking lucky to not be sitting in prison right about now no matter what country your from and I hope you get more visitations from the boys in blue
I can assure you I know more about my specific situation than you do, thank you.
i didn't say probably once
you're reaction makes me think that the other guy was right you really were doing worse shit because thats the only way your story makes any logical sense
Your assumption was made clear, and made even clearer than what you just said now. As I said, I can assure you I know more about my specific situation than you do.
well i guess you're so so special that the cops broke every rule and procedure they have just to punish you
>break every rule and procedure
>in the UK where it's legal for the police and government to monitor literally everything you do
>to monitor e-boi torrents and websites which are extremely illegal in law and finding traffic to them that isn't done via a proxy server
I know this may be different in your country, but for me this is my reality.
e-boi is illegal but the cops don't really give a shit about it they have bigger fish to fry becuase they don't have infinite resources
Your copium doesn't change facts, senpai. Get a proxy.
Enjoy being on a sex offender registry lmfao.
>tell people to kill themselves everyday on Ganker
>why am I alone and depressed?
>Missed out on young childhood love
>Missed out on highschool love
>Missed out on rose colored university/college life
>Now in your 30s
teenage love is romanticized solely by people who experienced it vicariously through anime and shit, the reality is that teenagers are emotionally unstable retards (including (you)) and any relationship you would've had was destined to become a dumpster fire
>any relationship you would've had was destined to become a dumpster fire
And now any relationship you would have as an adult is destined to become a dumpster fire that burns 999x worse!
adults are usually reasonably intelligent creatures whereas teenagers are a slave to their hormones
You can still go to college anon, but you better not be wasting your time there on useless crap.
I already went through uni for 4 years
My last year I didn't even visit it except for tests due to already working 34 hours a week(Couldn't work 1 hour more because they I would be full time)
>He fell for le love meme
Pretty much what
i have a really small dick so i have 0 chance
no i'm not going to listen to some dude with a 5 inch dick tell me girls don't care about size bro lol
So how small is it?
Enough that even a hooker laughed at it.
Wat, hookers should be half expecting micropenises anyway
Yep. If a fucking whore can't have the professionalism to at least pretend to like me then I have no chance.
I just... Need a real answer this time...
What do boobs feel like....
These threads always makes me think, with all the men in similar situations, who are just starving for some sort of human connection not even a gf, who dont leave the house and have a myriad of problems, it would be great if there was a way to connect people together irl. All we're really doing here is restlessly shouting into the void and in 30 minutes when this thread is dead nothing is going to change.
People come here because they repulse people. Not the other way around
That's not true. People come here because they dont fit in and there are lots of potential reasons for that including repulsing others in different ways
>That's not true.
Read the words after that and then fuck off
>All we're really doing here is restlessly shouting into the void and in 30 minutes when this thread is dead nothing is going to change.
Such is life.
>it would be great if there was a way to connect people together irl
There is. Normal people do things like work, volunteer for their community, etc. But that requires actually leaving the house and being proactive and the incels sitting around feeling sorry for themselves have no interest in doing that.
'normal people' exhaust me and fill me with existential dread every time I have to act like I even remotely belong around them.
so many people have come and left through there. I feel even given 30 more years there I wouldn't make a single meaningful connection or friendship.
I used to think like but then I started telling it to their faces that I didn't gave a shit, it was counterproductive since people are not used to honest conversation. Now they are more interested in me than before, because I'm the guy who speak whatever he feels like and they can do the same without being judged.
I barely talk irl
yeah but Ganker meetups would likely be a disaster and people don't want to be identified as losers.
most people here are too damaged to be saved.
I'll complain that I don't relate to anyone but then in reality I think it's a good thing more people aren't like me. I know if I was living with another me i'd probly kill him within a few days for several good reasons.
>tfw was always an autistic virgin
>get forced into college by my parents
>hate it but for the first time in my life I'm actually somewhat independent
>can see a path where I lose virginity and make something of my life
>get into traumatic car accident halfway through my first semester and pulled out for a year to heal
>had an opportunity to tell everyone to fuck off and that I didn't want to go back and waste my money and time in school which I hated, so I did
>that was 8 years ago
>have been a shut in neet ever since
I wish that accident fucking killed me
my whole life has been completely derailed and ruined
I even have pains and weakness from the surgery still and it's only going to get worse
>tfw that one girl in like middle school that actually wanted to be my gf
>gently reject her because I knew I was socially a mess and she was one of the people I actually gave a fuck about at the time
>so if I did something bad to her it'd eat away at me
fastforward to now, I am pretty sure I am an undiagnosed turbosperg
>Think used holes are worthless and disgusting
>Gave up on females at 15 because it was already hard enough finding a virgin back then
>Almost 27 now
I don't even know if I made the right choice, but it feels like none of it even matters anymore. I'm just tired.
This is literally me but age 14. I still think I made the right choice and I turn 30 next year.
>be autistic as well
>never really tried getting a girlfriend at all simply because I've always been too obsessed with video games and stuff
It's not the sex i really care about it's being hugged a lot
no idea lad.
Threads like this give me hope that this site is still filled with retards such as myself.
how do I have sex as a 25 year old virgin shut in without a license and where prostitution is illegal
do people really use condoms every time they have sex
what's the point of sex with a condom
if you wanna get strangers pregnant and/or contract fucked up diseases then be my guest
why are you even having sex at all if it's that risky
me, personally? i'm not. i hate the idea of casual sex. i can never cum while wearing a condom anyway.
I have gonorrhoea by the way.
then when do you have sex without A condom
I never use a condom, I just coom outside. It's good that it's risky because that makes me avoid girls who I'm not willing to impregnate or who are likely to be diseased whores. I also love the fact that they're willing to potentially have my child, gives me the illusion that I'm not an unlovable worthless piece of genetic trash.
i do but only because im deathly afraid of having a kid
>stranger/someone who I don't trust to be on contraceptives
>a partner on the pill/bar/IUD etc
I've had one girlfriend in my life that doesn't like taking contraceptives so I had to use protection with them.
Looking at stats, most normalfags don't. This tracks my experience in sugar dating, which I believe is close to how ordinary dating from the girls' perspective: roughly one third of the girls want to use a condom, one third of them ask, and one third of them just shove it in. I've sometimes refused if in my best estimation the girl is actively seeking more than just a few regular daddies. I get tested regularly and haven't caught anything.
You write what you know
>Spent years of my youth making self deprecating jokes about myself.
>They're eventually stopped being jokes.
>So engrained into my head that I can't even humor the idea of a woman genuinely liking me anymore.
what is sex like
like sticking your dick in a really tight warm hole
nice if the girl is into it, kinda lame if she isn't
how do I stop being so immensely sexually frustrated
I jerk off like 10 times a day
Just think about how fucking awful women are. That shit kills my drive for a week or so.
Women. Can't live with them, can't live without them.
Women. Can't live with them, ...they won't talk to me.
Anon not all women are shit, your own mother couldn't be that bad, could she ?
his mother was pretty good
made me chuckle
Me mum is the exception.
can vouch for me.
become an insomniac
kills most of your drives, including the seuxual
You can't become an insomniac, you can only get addicted to uppers and that'll compensate for the sexual drive loss of insomnia anyway
>You can't become an insomniac
stress, isolation, stimulants, excessive computer usage should do it
unless you're of the blessed race who sleeps like a baby no matter what
i'd rather be an eternal virgin than be an insomniac, sadly i'm both
insomniac too, excessive computer use and such comes because at this point i know i won't be sleeping anyway. But yeah I guess you could scar yourself psychologically enough until you can't sleep properly anymore
also i personally like that everything is a flatline and that i'm either totally apathetic or a little psycho. insomnia is based compared to other disorders people around me have. helps with anxiety too on days i get the least amount of sleep
>also i personally like that everything is a flatline and that i'm either totally apathetic or a little psycho.
i don't, i'd rather be physically content and interested with life
>insomnia is based compared to other disorders people around me have.
it's one of the least faggy for sure
>tfw no cute insomniac gf to watch the stars with
nah, being insomniac and knowing your gf is fast asleep in bed while you're doing your thing is comfy af
I'm supposed to go to a con this week and be a third wheel with this girl I know and her boyfriend because I don't have any other friends who can drive me there
How the fuck this thread hit 650+ posts?
Do you people really so demoralised?
>Do you people really so demoralised?
Where do you think we are?
Wish i could cheer them up, "this shall pass too" and "not only mom will be sad" is all i can think of
I can't resist talking about how utterly defeated I am after being mercilessly beaten by life.
I feel for you bros. I'm glad it seems like most of you realize it's alienation and loneliness that plague you more than actual lack of pussy. It really is an effort to make friends these days but that's how it is. You've gotta be there for people, even when you're depressed or pissed off or tired. And it seems thankless at first, but eventually you'll have more friends than ever.
The more you do that, the more you grow, the less intimidating it is to be around women, the easier it'll be to get a gf. Just don't make the mistake and let your eventual gf be your entire personality.
I used to be an incel neet living in his parent's attic, nigh suicidal, no excitement for the future, no friends, nothing. Eventually I (sorta) met the women who would be my wife on Ganker, talked to her for years as a long distance friend, and it slowly became a relationship. She moved continents to be with me and we've since moved to another country together. Been together over 8 years now, have all sorts of adventures together.
I still hate myself, but less and less the more I remind myself that she's smart and cool and doesn't see me that way. Same for my friends; you respect their positive opinions of you and put faith in them. There's literally nothing special about me so there's no reason you can't do it too.
You're probably 6'2"+
I'm 6ft nothing. But she didn't know that from a webcam.
Yeah, exactly. The money thing is particularly rough because you can wind up stuck in your shitty hometown and only able to get out on occasion. You really have to be a cheapskate with your social life and/or find as much shit you can do for free. Exercise is always a good option, hiking, bodyweight shit, etc. I loved to take long walks and hikes out of town at the time, helped me keep my weight down with little strain while also doing a bit of sight seeing and getting some alone time away from my parents. Nowadays I skate again which is relatively cheap (maybe £120 for a full board, then whatever else on shoes) because you can spend literally an entire day in a skatepark or empty carpark either by yourself or with other people.
I think you just need to be upfront about being broke. It sucks because most of your friends will want to go out and spend money, but a good friend will accommodate you and just hang out in a park or whatnot.
The worst part is when you actually did have friends, but by being such an anti-social retard who just doesn't want to put in the effort to go out, or at times just not having the money to go out, you give a shit reason time and time again, and eventually the few friends you do have just stop engaging with you.
that happened to me.
Lockdown was all it took to finally kill all of my connections.
It really felt beyond my control. I tried my best not to fade away from everyone but it was impossible to get them to do anything.
they just didn't want to hang out with me. literally anythign I would tro to organise no matter how simple was doomed to fail. I don't feel I even did anything wrong apart from be a boring piece of shit who wasn't very important to the dynamic.
>not even a crush
>feel absolutely nothing
its an odd feeling
i havent had a crush in years because there are no women where i live.
Thanks for the fun thread bros.
We're all gona make it
>have exactly 1 (one) relationship
>best (almost) five years of my life
>just sort of fizzled out when we realize how difficult it would be for one of us to move to the other's country permanently
>get really depressed right before the break up when i realize it probably wont work out and just let her go convincing myself that i was never a good partner anyways
fuck the guy who said it's better to have loved and lost, it was better when I didn't know what I was missing
this thread rerminds me of old /LULZ/ aka arcanine.
That's because nobody ever leaves this place
All the robots left arcanine, now it's all normalfags
/LULZ/ is just now all gay fags and trannies.
The incels who use to make >tfw no gf are now long gone
I like hags