It improves accessibility and allows people to experience vanilla game modes without homosexual community servers having 20 mods and custom rulesets, ads and other garbage.
Because picking a gametype and clicking "Find game" isn't the same as opening a browser, waiting for it to refresh, listing out irrelevant gametypes, having heavily stupid homosexual modded community servers, having to set up filters for full and empty servers etc
If people wanted to play on community servers, they would. But fact is, 99.9999999999999% of community servers are inconsistent trash
so you're too brown to comprehend anything but shiny green button that throw me in gaem hurr
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the same button that puts you into a match seconds before ending?
the same button that put you in matches that last 10 minutes at best?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I understand how it works exactly you brain damaged homosexual, I just fucking explained how.
YOU are the brain damaged retard implying the experience was the same.
>Open Browser >include "valve' in search >click map ledger to sort by map
Too fucking difficult, better implement a matchmaking system that takes longer to find a game, requires to same amount of work to select the specific maps and game style you want, and routinely funnels players in and out at the end of the matches.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, that's more friction for players over simply hitting play you brain damaged fag
all of that is true but it doesn't address the point at all
A server browser isn't the same as matchmaking you fucking retard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay then, enjoy getting matched into one-sided matches, matches full of bots and cheaters, extremely short matches and matches seconds from ending
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
All of this could have been accomplished without casual matchmaking. Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses. But because of brain dead fucks like you who defend literally any shit Valve shovels out, we now have to join a matchmaking service that consistently takes longer to find games, riddled with bots because of the constant flushing out of of players at the end of each match, and and consistently shitty team balanced.
>Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You inability to substantiate that statement speaks volumes. I accept your concession.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you don't play the game
you don't use matchmaking
you have no idea what you're talking about
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still unable to substantiate how anything I said was incorrect
still accept your concession
>There's nothing wrong with matchmakin
Consistently longer to find a game, consistently find yourself in a game that is seconds away from, consistently deal with cheaters and bots that come back because of the constant funneling of players in and out of matches, and mind boggling shitty balance that gives skial servers a run for their money. >They had quick join you fucking newfag
Then add one additional big beautiful button that says "Valve servers only". Make it big and bright for fuckwits like yourself.
>Consistently longer to find a game
No it's not. Hitting play is far quicker than scrolling through a list of shitty community servers and applying filters >consistently find yourself in a game that is seconds away from
It's casual who gives a fuck >Then add one additional big beautiful button that says "Valve servers only". Make it big and bright for fuckwits like yourself.
Why? The community has proven it cannot be trusted. I've yet to hear a single valid argument for adding community servers in the mix.
Meanwhile, I've already explained they are inconsistent ad-ridden cancer.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
your retardation is evident
there's nothing else to substantiate
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still unable to substantiate how anything I said was incorrect
still accept your concession
I hope Gabe sees this bro
Another fucking moron who has no counter-argument. I accept your concession as well
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you haven't substantiated anything else
i accept your concession as well
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you haven't substantiated anything else
i accept your concession as well
I posted:
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
[...] >Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
You posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry, you're a homosexual and brown
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I posted:
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
[...] >Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
You posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry, you're a homosexual and brown
you keep completing them too, i'm sure you will (not) win eventually
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he keeps filling in captchas just to get owned again and again
I posted:
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
[...] >Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
You posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
Keep barking, mutt
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Ganker pass
get a load of this homosexual
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>goypass
i win by default
>he keeps filling in captchas just to get owned again and again
I posted:
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
[...] >Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
(You)
You posted:
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
Keep barking, mutt
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you lost the moment you showed your star of david badge of honor goypass
it's over
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't use the script
KEKAROO
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he pretends he has a script
LMAO
spending your wagie money on useless crap doesn't make you rich
i'm sorry >verification not required
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
works on my machine :^)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
spending your wagie money on useless crap doesn't make you rich
i'm sorry >verification not required
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nothing you say matters anymore. Just leave the thread with what dignity you have left.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Verification not required.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>pretending verification isn't required >spends 5 minutes getting filtered by the capcha
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>goypass
i win by default
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I hope Gabe sees this bro
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Hitting play is far quicker than scrolling through a list of shitty community servers and applying filters
Do you think you are instantly put a server you chucklefuck? There's a wait time to find a server that consistently takes longer. >It's casual who gives a fuck
Because I'm not once again waiting for the next match so I can actually fucking play the game, and that is assuming that the next game isn't filled with bots because half the players leave when the server changes levels. >Why? The community has proven it cannot be trusted. I've yet to hear a single valid argument for adding community servers in the mix.
Meanwhile, I've already explained they are inconsistent ad-ridden cancer.
Because no one is arguing in favor of community servers, how fucking dense are you? Do you know what a Valve server is?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Do you think you are instantly put a server you chucklefuck?
Did I say that you stupid homosexual? I said its quicker (which it is) >Because I'm not once again waiting for the next match so I can actually fucking play the game
You have no idea what state the game is from the community server either you brain damaged homosexual
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Did I say that you stupid homosexual? I said its quicker (which it is)
No you said "pressing a button is faster", implying you didn't even know about the consistently shitty wait time.
>You have no idea what state the game is from the community server either you brain damaged homosexual
You keep going back to community servers because you have no argument you moron. No one is arguing for community servers.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>There's nothing wrong with matchmakin
Consistently longer to find a game, consistently find yourself in a game that is seconds away from, consistently deal with cheaters and bots that come back because of the constant funneling of players in and out of matches, and mind boggling shitty balance that gives skial servers a run for their money. >They had quick join you fucking newfag
Then add one additional big beautiful button that says "Valve servers only". Make it big and bright for fuckwits like yourself.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
All of this could have been accomplished without casual matchmaking. Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses. But because of brain dead fucks like you who defend literally any shit Valve shovels out, we now have to join a matchmaking service that consistently takes longer to find games, riddled with bots because of the constant flushing out of of players at the end of each match, and and consistently shitty team balanced.
Because you want an excuse to not use the furry server
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i might not have joined and got banned from all of them
i might have gotten banned from just a handful
i might have banned myself from playing in them as a rule of principle
>Class limits >No sprays >No crits >No fun maps and specialty game modes >Instantly perma banned if any of your item names are even slightly offensive (got perma'd from Inceltopia for having a Self-Aware Beauty Mark named "Bread Soaked in e-boi Piss")
Quickplay already solved that issue and was 100% better >Get to join vanilla servers and valve servers >Join immediately >Rarely join at the very last second before the game resets >Get to choose what team you wanted to play on >Autobalance would work properly so that teams were actually balanced for a decent time >Everyone immediately leaves once shit is onesided, making games onesided, which causes more people to leave
Casual is worse than Quickplay in every way you could possibly imagine. There is no reason anyone should prefer casual over quickplay.
It helped wrangle away the issues caused by the quickplay system, that being a small clique of servers gaming the matching system and taking over as the "heads" of the tf2 community.
Are we talking about TF2 matchmaning or matchmaning in general?
If it's in general, it help server stop being a mess where teams are put on people on their levels without having a team of New installs against tryhards
Sadly TF2 matchmaning is utter trash and i want quickplay back
>server don't have original maps >Don't have original gamemodes >You cannot even play Robot destruction or cactus canyon or even FUCKING PAYLOAD RACE OR SPECIAL DELIVERY DESPITE BEING AN OFFICIAL GAMEMODE ON QUICKPLAY
>You cannot even play Robot destruction or cactus canyon or even FUCKING PAYLOAD RACE OR SPECIAL DELIVERY DESPITE BEING AN OFFICIAL GAMEMODE ON QUICKPLAY
Well the first two is because Robot destruction is a canned mode and cactus canyon was never finished.
All the Alternative Modes like Payload Race and Special delivery never get players because the matchmaking UI is trash.
And the annoying thing is you'll get stupid people who legitimately think that >these modes are unpopular
rather than the actual issue >Oh fuck literally nobody queues for these because you have to scroll down to them
>Cp_orange
Is a map played on community servers, and those are basically dead.
cp_orange mostly surviving because it's more or less the minimally viable equivalent of a tf2 map and you can play it on a wii.
Someone has to explain to me how community servers being shitty is being used as a defense for matchmaking. Before matchmaking I could join Valve servers free from the community server homosexualry, now I have to use the shitty matchmaking with unbelievable shitty team balance.
the opposing blu team instantly votekicked a homosexual with (she/her) in his username after somebody pointed that out when I was playing casual. shit was cash.
I also see frequent usage of naggers in casual, and the power grubbing community mods can't do anything about it, this malds them to no end, which makes it pretty based.
He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout.
No gimmicks
No unfair range advantage
No dual primaries
No comically high health
No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger
Pure unadulterated honest gameplay.
>He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout.
No >No gimmicks
Fuck no >No unfair range advantage
Rocket had infinite range >No dual primaries
Gunboats make him wield dual primaries >No comically high health
He's the only class that could survive melee crit besides heavy >No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger
He did, Splash damage will do the work for him >Pure unadulterated honest gameplay.
Only applicable for direct hit soldier
>>He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout. >No
He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with. >>No gimmicks >Fuck no
He has no gimmicks what so ever >>No unfair range advantage >Rocket had infinite range
Rockets are some of the slowest projectiles in the game, being only 1100 HU/s, and will deal 48 damage at best at long ranges. That's like saying Shotguns are long range because you can hit someone from Sniper distance. >>No dual primaries >Gunboats make him wield dual primaries
Gunboats aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries. >>No comically high health >He's the only class that could survive melee crit besides heavy
He survives them with 5 HP left, where as Heavy can take a Melee Crit and a full ramp-up Scattershot shot. Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200 >>No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger >He did, Splash damage will do the work for him
See above point about damage fall-off >>Pure unadulterated honest gameplay. >Only applicable for direct hit soldier
applicable to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout.
>He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with.
That's scout, in fact, Soldier is the closest class need to be nerfed >No gimmicks
Conch box soldier >Rockets are some of the slowest projectiles in the game
It doesn't matter if blast radius does the work for you >Gunboats aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries.
Gunboats nullify the only damage that makes rocket jumping fair and balanced
He survives them with 5 HP left, where as >Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200
Gunboats existed >See above point about damage fall-off
Damage fall off doesn't do shit if you did 40+ damage at worst >applicable to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout.
Fuck off retard and learn to aim direct hit or shotgun
>>He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with. >That's scout, in fact, Soldier is the closest class need to be nerfed
t. salty Scunt who isn't good enough to beat soldiers >>No gimmicks >Conch box soldier
Not a gimmick
are some of the slowest projectiles in the game >It doesn't matter if blast radius does the work for you
If you seriously can't dodge a fucking rocket at Sniper distance and die to splash, as a scunt, you have serious absolute skill issue.
aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries. >Gunboats nullify the only damage that makes rocket jumping fair and balanced >He survives them with 5 HP left, where as >Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200 >Gunboats existed
Soldier then loses his secondary weapon just so his blast jumps take less damage. It's a huge deal and it still doesn't nullify fall damage. >>See above point about damage fall-off >Damage fall off doesn't do shit if you did 40+ damage at worst
40 damage on direct hits, where as splash damage at that range deals like 23 or so. It's less than fucking Sniper's 50 no-Scope damage, which is seen generally as bad damage, and that's hitscan.
to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout. >Fuck off retard and learn to aim direct hit or shotgun
All rocket launchers require aim.
Soldierwhiners love to exaggerate how much splash a rocket has, even though said splash damage does significantly less.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>salty Scunt who isn't good enough to beat soldiers
It's fair since 90% of the map was designed for Soldier >Not a gimmick
You're lynching homosexual >Soldier then loses his secondary weapon just so his blast jumps take less damage.
Yeah, Why the fuck use the shotgun anyways if Gunboats makes the rocket launcher broken >40 damage on direct hits, where as splash damage at that range deals like 23 or so. It's less than fucking Sniper's 50 no-Scope damage, which is seen generally as bad damage, and that's hitscan.
When every weapon with fall off dealt 8 damage by default except sniper rifle and revolver. >All rocket launchers require aim.
You're a homosexual, stop replying and try other class, now come back
People will go oohhhh accessibility but the truth is people would play TF2 regardless. They did fine before matchmaking was added and they'd do fine afterwards.
Human beings are just lazy to their absolute core and despite it being incredibly easy to find a reliable server in any given community servers-only game you can think of, big green button is easier, so they'll whip up every reason imaginable for it to be a superior answer when the literal only real benefit matchmaking confers in TF2 is it being a difference of seconds faster to get into a match
there is none
It improves accessibility and allows people to experience vanilla game modes without homosexual community servers having 20 mods and custom rulesets, ads and other garbage.
Having Valve servers available in the server browser accomplished all of this.
No it didn't you fucking moron.
Both are fucking cancer
>No it didn't you fucking moron.
How the fuck didn't it?
Because picking a gametype and clicking "Find game" isn't the same as opening a browser, waiting for it to refresh, listing out irrelevant gametypes, having heavily stupid homosexual modded community servers, having to set up filters for full and empty servers etc
If people wanted to play on community servers, they would. But fact is, 99.9999999999999% of community servers are inconsistent trash
so you're too brown to comprehend anything but shiny green button that throw me in gaem hurr
the same button that puts you into a match seconds before ending?
the same button that put you in matches that last 10 minutes at best?
I understand how it works exactly you brain damaged homosexual, I just fucking explained how.
YOU are the brain damaged retard implying the experience was the same.
stupid homosexual
>Open Browser
>include "valve' in search
>click map ledger to sort by map
Too fucking difficult, better implement a matchmaking system that takes longer to find a game, requires to same amount of work to select the specific maps and game style you want, and routinely funnels players in and out at the end of the matches.
Yes, that's more friction for players over simply hitting play you brain damaged fag
A server browser isn't the same as matchmaking you fucking retard
okay then, enjoy getting matched into one-sided matches, matches full of bots and cheaters, extremely short matches and matches seconds from ending
I haven't made any statement about myself playing on matchmaking or community servers you absolute fucking moron, but you're a fucking brain damaged idiot if you can't understand why the system exists.
The game has community servers, if you want that then go fucking play it. There's nothing wrong with matchmaking.
>Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses.
They had quick join you fucking newfag, and it put players into trash community servers with adverts, stupid changes to the ruleset and other inconsistent behaviour.
yeah because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
You inability to substantiate that statement speaks volumes. I accept your concession.
you don't play the game
you don't use matchmaking
you have no idea what you're talking about
>still unable to substantiate how anything I said was incorrect
still accept your concession
>Consistently longer to find a game
No it's not. Hitting play is far quicker than scrolling through a list of shitty community servers and applying filters
>consistently find yourself in a game that is seconds away from
It's casual who gives a fuck
>Then add one additional big beautiful button that says "Valve servers only". Make it big and bright for fuckwits like yourself.
Why? The community has proven it cannot be trusted. I've yet to hear a single valid argument for adding community servers in the mix.
Meanwhile, I've already explained they are inconsistent ad-ridden cancer.
your retardation is evident
there's nothing else to substantiate
>still unable to substantiate how anything I said was incorrect
still accept your concession
Another fucking moron who has no counter-argument. I accept your concession as well
you haven't substantiated anything else
i accept your concession as well
I posted:
You posted:
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag.
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry
I posted:
You posted:
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag.
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry, you're a homosexual and brown
I posted:
You posted:
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
you didn't post shit
i accept your concession, you lost the argument, i'm sorry, you're a homosexual and brown
you keep completing them too, i'm sure you will (not) win eventually
>he keeps filling in captchas just to get owned again and again
I posted:
You posted:
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
Keep barking, mutt
>Ganker pass
get a load of this homosexual
>he keeps filling in captchas just to get owned again and again
I posted:
(You)
You posted:
You're unable to substantiate your claim.
I accept your concession. You lost the argument, fag. Keep completing those capchas you destitute homosexual, just to continue to let me know how much I owned you.
Keep barking, mutt
you lost the moment you showed your star of david badge of honor goypass
it's over
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to.
>he doesn't use the script
KEKAROO
>he pretends he has a script
LMAO
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
works on my machine :^)
spending your wagie money on useless crap doesn't make you rich
i'm sorry
>verification not required
Nothing you say matters anymore. Just leave the thread with what dignity you have left.
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
>Verification not required.
>pretending verification isn't required
>spends 5 minutes getting filtered by the capcha
Keep filling in those captchas poorfag, I command you to. I must be really under your skin for you to waste your time hahahahahaha
>goypass
i win by default
I hope Gabe sees this bro
>Hitting play is far quicker than scrolling through a list of shitty community servers and applying filters
Do you think you are instantly put a server you chucklefuck? There's a wait time to find a server that consistently takes longer.
>It's casual who gives a fuck
Because I'm not once again waiting for the next match so I can actually fucking play the game, and that is assuming that the next game isn't filled with bots because half the players leave when the server changes levels.
>Why? The community has proven it cannot be trusted. I've yet to hear a single valid argument for adding community servers in the mix.
Meanwhile, I've already explained they are inconsistent ad-ridden cancer.
Because no one is arguing in favor of community servers, how fucking dense are you? Do you know what a Valve server is?
>Do you think you are instantly put a server you chucklefuck?
Did I say that you stupid homosexual? I said its quicker (which it is)
>Because I'm not once again waiting for the next match so I can actually fucking play the game
You have no idea what state the game is from the community server either you brain damaged homosexual
>Did I say that you stupid homosexual? I said its quicker (which it is)
No you said "pressing a button is faster", implying you didn't even know about the consistently shitty wait time.
>You have no idea what state the game is from the community server either you brain damaged homosexual
You keep going back to community servers because you have no argument you moron. No one is arguing for community servers.
>There's nothing wrong with matchmakin
Consistently longer to find a game, consistently find yourself in a game that is seconds away from, consistently deal with cheaters and bots that come back because of the constant funneling of players in and out of matches, and mind boggling shitty balance that gives skial servers a run for their money.
>They had quick join you fucking newfag
Then add one additional big beautiful button that says "Valve servers only". Make it big and bright for fuckwits like yourself.
All of this could have been accomplished without casual matchmaking. Quite literally a quick join would of solved the 'friction" of at most three button presses. But because of brain dead fucks like you who defend literally any shit Valve shovels out, we now have to join a matchmaking service that consistently takes longer to find games, riddled with bots because of the constant flushing out of of players at the end of each match, and and consistently shitty team balanced.
all of that is true but it doesn't address the point at all
Just play Uncletopia or Skial
skial has always been soulless garbage from the very beginning
How is that?
you get perma muted for trash talking
I've seen fragile egos on uncletopia, not really skial.
skial inserts adverts into your HUD. blacklist every skial server
i've been muted for the past 6 months on all skial servers for calling a bunch of players the nagger word
Some players got muted and banned for telling a female player to make them a sandwich on 2fort. One of the admins is apparently a "woman"
donator slots alone ruin it beyond redemption
it's kind of depressing those are the only community servers that don't host shitty trade maps or gimmicky gamemodes or aren't turbine/2fort 24/7
Furry Pound is vanilla
i'm banned from every furfag/tranny server
I highly doubt that.
why would i lie about it
Because you want an excuse to not use the furry server
i might not have joined and got banned from all of them
i might have gotten banned from just a handful
i might have banned myself from playing in them as a rule of principle
>Class limits
>No sprays
>No crits
>No fun maps and specialty game modes
>Instantly perma banned if any of your item names are even slightly offensive (got perma'd from Inceltopia for having a Self-Aware Beauty Mark named "Bread Soaked in e-boi Piss")
I'm permabanned from both (without cheats).
>no random crits
sorry I don't play on homosexual servers
Quickplay already solved that issue and was 100% better
>Get to join vanilla servers and valve servers
>Join immediately
>Rarely join at the very last second before the game resets
>Get to choose what team you wanted to play on
>Autobalance would work properly so that teams were actually balanced for a decent time
>Everyone immediately leaves once shit is onesided, making games onesided, which causes more people to leave
Casual is worse than Quickplay in every way you could possibly imagine. There is no reason anyone should prefer casual over quickplay.
Uh, it, uh, allows me to filter maps?
What kind of stupid jiggaboo ape plays Source games while hating on mods and community servers
It helped wrangle away the issues caused by the quickplay system, that being a small clique of servers gaming the matching system and taking over as the "heads" of the tf2 community.
>Make sure to donate for double damage and glowing effects!
Are we talking about TF2 matchmaning or matchmaning in general?
If it's in general, it help server stop being a mess where teams are put on people on their levels without having a team of New installs against tryhards
Sadly TF2 matchmaning is utter trash and i want quickplay back
>server don't have original maps
>Don't have original gamemodes
>You cannot even play Robot destruction or cactus canyon or even FUCKING PAYLOAD RACE OR SPECIAL DELIVERY DESPITE BEING AN OFFICIAL GAMEMODE ON QUICKPLAY
>You cannot even play Robot destruction or cactus canyon or even FUCKING PAYLOAD RACE OR SPECIAL DELIVERY DESPITE BEING AN OFFICIAL GAMEMODE ON QUICKPLAY
Well the first two is because Robot destruction is a canned mode and cactus canyon was never finished.
All the Alternative Modes like Payload Race and Special delivery never get players because the matchmaking UI is trash.
And the annoying thing is you'll get stupid people who legitimately think that
>these modes are unpopular
rather than the actual issue
>Oh fuck literally nobody queues for these because you have to scroll down to them
>Well the first two is because Robot destruction is a canned mode and cactus canyon was never finished.
Cp_orange
>Cp_orange
Is a map played on community servers, and those are basically dead.
cp_orange mostly surviving because it's more or less the minimally viable equivalent of a tf2 map and you can play it on a wii.
shitters
Someone has to explain to me how community servers being shitty is being used as a defense for matchmaking. Before matchmaking I could join Valve servers free from the community server homosexualry, now I have to use the shitty matchmaking with unbelievable shitty team balance.
>use old quick join
>join an empty server
>alt F4
shit game, always has been
put dispenser here
it keeps shitters and bots occupied while I play on actual servers
Furry ERP servers aren't actual servers.
It doesn't, we already had matchmaking. It was called "Quickplay"
the opposing blu team instantly votekicked a homosexual with (she/her) in his username after somebody pointed that out when I was playing casual. shit was cash.
I also see frequent usage of naggers in casual, and the power grubbing community mods can't do anything about it, this malds them to no end, which makes it pretty based.
tf2sisters...
>that pfp
deserved
somehow the furry pound has remained a relatively normal set of community servers for over a decade at this point
If you can give furries one thing, when they give a shit about something they're willing to put the work in.
Give me one reason why Soldier shouldn't be nerf at the same time as Sniper does
sniper was only added out of obligation and contributes nothing of value to the game
He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout.
No gimmicks
No unfair range advantage
No dual primaries
No comically high health
No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger
Pure unadulterated honest gameplay.
>No gimmicks
>No comically high health
>He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout.
No
>No gimmicks
Fuck no
>No unfair range advantage
Rocket had infinite range
>No dual primaries
Gunboats make him wield dual primaries
>No comically high health
He's the only class that could survive melee crit besides heavy
>No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger
He did, Splash damage will do the work for him
>Pure unadulterated honest gameplay.
Only applicable for direct hit soldier
>>He's not overpowered and is by far the most honest class besides Scout.
>No
He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with.
>>No gimmicks
>Fuck no
He has no gimmicks what so ever
>>No unfair range advantage
>Rocket had infinite range
Rockets are some of the slowest projectiles in the game, being only 1100 HU/s, and will deal 48 damage at best at long ranges. That's like saying Shotguns are long range because you can hit someone from Sniper distance.
>>No dual primaries
>Gunboats make him wield dual primaries
Gunboats aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries.
>>No comically high health
>He's the only class that could survive melee crit besides heavy
He survives them with 5 HP left, where as Heavy can take a Melee Crit and a full ramp-up Scattershot shot. Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200
>>No staying behind teammates whole game and never putting yourself in danger
>He did, Splash damage will do the work for him
See above point about damage fall-off
>>Pure unadulterated honest gameplay.
>Only applicable for direct hit soldier
applicable to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout.
>He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with.
That's scout, in fact, Soldier is the closest class need to be nerfed
>No gimmicks
Conch box soldier
>Rockets are some of the slowest projectiles in the game
It doesn't matter if blast radius does the work for you
>Gunboats aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries.
Gunboats nullify the only damage that makes rocket jumping fair and balanced
He survives them with 5 HP left, where as >Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200
Gunboats existed
>See above point about damage fall-off
Damage fall off doesn't do shit if you did 40+ damage at worst
>applicable to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout.
Fuck off retard and learn to aim direct hit or shotgun
>>He's the most balanced class and requires understanding of all fundamentals to be good with.
>That's scout, in fact, Soldier is the closest class need to be nerfed
t. salty Scunt who isn't good enough to beat soldiers
>>No gimmicks
>Conch box soldier
Not a gimmick
are some of the slowest projectiles in the game
>It doesn't matter if blast radius does the work for you
If you seriously can't dodge a fucking rocket at Sniper distance and die to splash, as a scunt, you have serious absolute skill issue.
aren't primaries. They aren't even secondaries.
>Gunboats nullify the only damage that makes rocket jumping fair and balanced
>He survives them with 5 HP left, where as >Soldier rocket jumping all the time also means his effective health is lower than 200
>Gunboats existed
Soldier then loses his secondary weapon just so his blast jumps take less damage. It's a huge deal and it still doesn't nullify fall damage.
>>See above point about damage fall-off
>Damage fall off doesn't do shit if you did 40+ damage at worst
40 damage on direct hits, where as splash damage at that range deals like 23 or so. It's less than fucking Sniper's 50 no-Scope damage, which is seen generally as bad damage, and that's hitscan.
to all Soldiers besides the Pussy Soldier loadout.
>Fuck off retard and learn to aim direct hit or shotgun
All rocket launchers require aim.
Soldierwhiners love to exaggerate how much splash a rocket has, even though said splash damage does significantly less.
>salty Scunt who isn't good enough to beat soldiers
It's fair since 90% of the map was designed for Soldier
>Not a gimmick
You're lynching homosexual
>Soldier then loses his secondary weapon just so his blast jumps take less damage.
Yeah, Why the fuck use the shotgun anyways if Gunboats makes the rocket launcher broken
>40 damage on direct hits, where as splash damage at that range deals like 23 or so. It's less than fucking Sniper's 50 no-Scope damage, which is seen generally as bad damage, and that's hitscan.
When every weapon with fall off dealt 8 damage by default except sniper rifle and revolver.
>All rocket launchers require aim.
You're a homosexual, stop replying and try other class, now come back
People will go oohhhh accessibility but the truth is people would play TF2 regardless. They did fine before matchmaking was added and they'd do fine afterwards.
Human beings are just lazy to their absolute core and despite it being incredibly easy to find a reliable server in any given community servers-only game you can think of, big green button is easier, so they'll whip up every reason imaginable for it to be a superior answer when the literal only real benefit matchmaking confers in TF2 is it being a difference of seconds faster to get into a match
Who is the homosexual that infests the game with bots?
doeshotter
a bunch of other pretentious hackerman wannabes
This game will forever be unplayable because of the hacker/bot problem.