Guild Wars 2 is coming to Steam on August 23rd.
I know how you guys probably feel about GW2 because of it's launch, but it's a different game now that is much better than any MMO on the market these days.
Are you going to play?
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>that is much better than any MMO on the market these days.
do stupid people actually believe this?
I'd rather play GW2 than fricking WOW or, god forbids me, XIV.
>start the game from a different place
>ZOMG u guyze! its a totally different game
Steam drones are mentally ill.
It's just a gw2 shill, probably a troony as well, since only gays, trannies and feminists play this shit.
You watch this board just to make moronic fricking posts like that and you call others mentally ill.
Curious.
>different game now
Yes i understand they've added trannies and turned good characters from gw1 into evil bosses.
>homosexual troony mmo "redefined" mmos by dying years ago and stayed moving on a shoestring budget until they need some kind of money so they throw it on steam to see if they can trick random morons into buying their game
Just go offline already
Wait is it not f2p?
It is free to play for the base game, expansions cost money.
So the only way you socialize in a social game is when the content is hard? Anon you're just being an dipshit. The draw to MMO's isn't the challenging content, it's the socializing.
Rebalances and beta testing for guild based WvW, they're retiring server based WvW really soon.
Why's that?
It does not attract the dopamine addicts who need the next higher stat or the next raid tier to be even gayer to keep playing.
>So the only way you socialize in a social game is when the content is hard?
Basically, yeah.
> The draw to MMO's isn't the challenging content, it's the socializing.
If it's the socializing and not the content, why not just use a chat room instead of a game?
You're so full of shit anon, I know for a fact you play shit with friends even though you know it isn't that challenging.
You don't have to pretend everything you do is super top tier hardcore gaming, anon.
>I know for a fact you play shit with friends even though you know it isn't that challenging.
Yeah, I do braindead dungeons in other mmos too, but I wouldn't ever consider that to be social content.
You live for the stat grind and dungeon gear dude, that's fine, GW2 is not for you.
It depends when you play, I think the expansions added an insane amount to the game. I also quit at launch when I hit max because everything felt bad and boring but I came back 2 years ago and I can't stop playing. It ruins other MMO's for you.
>Basically, yeah.
children
The challenge is what creates those memorable social experiences. Without an environment that forces cooperation at the threat of death you just get a single player RPG with a bunch of other players walking around
There is challenge if you want it, since GW2 is not about raising the stat barrier every patch. It's about running content efficiently and seeing how fast you can clear it.
I can promise most people on Ganker could not clear Harvest Temple Challenge Mode, there is challenge if you want it.
>It is free to play for the base game, expansions cost money.
Its a fricking demo. You might as well call FF14 free because of the entire copypasta. you don't get access to most content because most of it requires expansion or get kick, and the story is shit.
>or get kick
Dumb ESL post
Isn’t FFXIV free stuff like 200+ hours of free stuff and it untimed?
That is still consider a demo and not a Free to Play. You're lock out on a lot of stuff regardless.
TBF the 200+ hours in FF14 is just walking to waypoints talking to NPC's, not actual gameplay.
How is that not new content
Define gameplay
Gameplay in FF14 is almost entirely walking from one point to another and talking to an NPC.
The only time combat happens is fates or queues
FF14 at its best is basically just MMO monster hunter since the raids are just beating up a big boss as a team. The rest of the game is just stuff to do in your downtime.
But aren’t fate open world? So if that doesn’t count at gameplay what does? Also hunts are also a thing that get 100+ people to kill big monsters in the world
Is that something people do in the free trial though?
Where is the gear grind?
If you had ascended berserker's gear from launch it's still 100% meta
There is no new armor tier
Fates at least yea and you can do low level hunts
>it doesn’t attract people who want to have fun
Err
Explain to me what happened to Guild Wars 2.
>took all the good shit that GW1 did
>threw it in the garbage can
>made a game with what was left
They decided to make an MMORPG that is Anti-MMORPG
>Each zone scales your level downwards
>Level locked story quests
>No mounts
>Skills are gained via weapons, not by character advancement
>Gear hardly changes your looks
I could go on but it’s been years since I’ve played and I can’t remember any more off the top of my head.
To my knowledge most of that is changed or just purely base game shit.
There are mounts
If you haven't seen all the giant amount of changes over the last year to prep for the steam release, I implore you to look into it, they have been fixing an insane amount of growing pains
Are you going to get another job?
I don't work for Anet
The combat,class design, and content are great. It's about legitimately playing online with other people rather than questing solo until you can queue.
It couldn't dodge the gay, they are from Seattle afterall. But you can ignore the gay and just play the game just fine since it's only like 2 story characters anyways.
>The combat,class design, and content are great
>I don't work for Anet
All fields
What part of the content sucks other than dungeons?
I'd say I wish they'd touch them up, they're still ind of horse shit in difficulty and dont have any rewards worth a frick, and they basically let fractals replace them entirely.
>What part of the content sucks other than dungeons?
The main story is absolutely terrible.
>It's about legitimately playing online with other people
Why are the raids all so easy then?
You play with other people, I didn't say they were challenging.
Raids are weird in the game, since the game doesn't scale up by powering up gear every expansion, it just started spreading boons (short term buffs) around very easily and new gear sets (they aren't stronger than old gear, just different stat combos) led to more diverse playstyles.
Wings 1-4 are from a time when 22k DPS was fricking crazy, but now top classes bench 40k in a vaccuum, and heals are just generally better with harrier stats. This plus firebrand giving free stability and aegis like mad made the early raids kind of cheesey.
Wings 5-7 are really fun but expect specific party comps, I'd say they're harder in general.
The hard content in GW2 is the meta event Dragon's End, the new EoD strike Challenge modes, and CM Fractals.
However I don't think challenging means you have to play together, there are a ton of things people group up for like world bosses, meta event trains, hero point trains, strikes, fractals, etc.
>You play with other people, I didn't say they were challenging.
You can hardly call it playing with other people if you don't actually have to surmount anything. It's like calling your commute to work on the bus a social activity.
You forgot to mention that despite all of that, only a tiny minority of the player base are able to deal more than 10% of the potential DPS and the games balance is thereby eternally fricked.
Yeah, the difference between not knowing how to play your class and playing your classic like 3x the damage difference
I hope they smooth it out a bit
So you unironically do it for free?
>Are you going to play?
Already do and it's shit.
Did they make changes to WvW to freshen it up? Otherwise hard pass.
I think GW2 is one of the worst excuses for an "MMO" I've ever played.
GW2 is fun.
It's refreshing to play an MMO in the modern day that is about doing things in a big open world instead of logging in once a week to play 10-man group Bop-It for 3 hours.
It not appealing to WoW and XIV burnouts is a nice bonus.
played game at launch
>end zone, you can't take a step without bumping into undead
>engineer class beyond useless unless you play as memey tank build that heals itself
>perma invisible rogues
>game insisted that you do not need the holy Trinity of tank,heal and dps and yet dungeons were are nightmare to complete without them
>best pvp ever created in any mmo, no gear difference nearly same spells
>world vs world genuinely good
>legendary item grind on korean mmo level
>best pvp ever created in any mmo, no gear difference nearly same spells
this thread is about gw2, why are you talking about gw1
talking about launch gw2
GW1 bored me to tears with it's sob story
Launch stank, most of the base classes were kind of dull and the end game being running dungeons which just fricking sucked was awful.
It's crazy how far they came from back then, classes have way more depth and fractals, raids, strikes, and a bunch of other shit replaced dungeons
>The game that redefined MMORPGs
lol I only remember this game because of the whole bot clusterfrick that happened on /vg/
>redefine mmo by copying existing mmos
The literally only good part of GW2 is its prequel
I liked looking up my necromancer's dress
beat up the bigot
Man... I tried this shit and got to max level but I couldn't justify playing it anymore after going through all that stupid shit.
I got the explorer's map thing that you need for the legendary weapon but the grind was not worth it at all man.
>giving money to trannies and sjw
No.
This game fricking HATES your time and will spend as much of it as possible without giving you shit.
Do not fricking play it. Stay far far away.
In what way? I'd argue GW2 respects your time more because you aren't just 1 patch or update away from losing all your progress and restarting with a raid tier
Will there be fresh servers?
Never played GW
There's only 1 mega server.
Servers used to only be used to decide factions in World vs World which is the planetside gamemode.
But since they are changing that to be guild based and not server based very soon, it doesn't matter what server you pick.
I already play FF14, but I might try this with friends.
XIV feels so fricking baren.
Raiding is stressful as frick and dealing with people who are likely mentally ill is not a worthwhile endeavor.
Not to mention it has a majority coomer playerbase and men pretending to be women in the game whoring themselves with sexting through the game for gil.
They know what players are doing, but they'll never address this disgusting behavior that enables groomers and pedophiles.
They also nerfed other means of getting gil the fricking bastards.
>but they'll never address this disgusting behavior that enables groomers and pedophiles.
Let's just be clear on something, FFXIV is a boomer game, I don't think you have anyone under the age of 20 actually playing it.
I know people in their 20's who play it but they legit have 0 taste as they're quitting it for fricking WotLK classic when there's fricking private servers for it for free
Weren't they part of the bandwagon that jumped ship from wow last summer ?
Was it only last summer?
They are part of the crowd that didn't play during the patch that cleaned up the MSQ, they played when Asmond jumped to it but for some reason wont admit thats why they jumped on it.
They have 0 taste.
Well, they're bound to bugger off sooner or later if that's the case, FFXIV doesn't have nearly enough grindy ADHD inducing content to keep you strapped to it.
I mean they still play, but they just hop on everyday, hit the queue quota, and quit.
Why even fricking play a game if you JUST do dailies and nothing else
>Why even fricking play a game if you JUST do dailies and nothing else
They should not, rather they just need to take the moderate approach, do whatever content they like for as long as it's fun and when it's not fun just leave it be, you should not play a game because you HAVE to play a game lol
No amount of content or story will ever compensate for bad Gameplay and lazy Class design. Thats why current MMO's will never archieve the greatness they once had back then.
I don't really think the gameplay in FFXIV is bad though, it's just standard tab target with some quirks here and there. That they dumbed down the classes and you're playing a samey shit on every role ? Yeah that's 100% true.
most zoomers are on new world
It is a much easier game to play with friends than FF14, you dont have to play through singleplayer stories before you can coop.
Looking at the replies to this thread it seems like GW2 was completely botched when it was launched and nothing can convince people to even try it anymore. It's a shame since some things like their mounts and newer strikes are generally good but nothing will bring people back not even a steam launch.
I paid $20 for this and I never got further than level 25. What a shit game.
I run a dead ~12 year old /LULZ/ Guild Wars guild if anybody wants to join.
the only thing more pathetic than LULZ guild is playing gw2
The /LULZ/ of today is not what it was 12 years ago, ESL.
>esl calling others esl without having grasp of the language themselves
the ironing
cope harder, pathetic LULZworm
>no u
Lurk more, ESL newbie.
Any mmorpg that are not pozzed? Im done with WoW
You know the answer.
>the game that redefined MMORPGs
It really sucks that MMORPG's ditched the fun aspects they used to have back then and just turned into mediocre single player games on easy mode that you can play with others at the same time.
That kind of MMO you pine for can no longer exist in this age of zoomers and discord
Discord is just a better version of in game chat channels
Make resources contested and 90% of the discord homosexualry would vanish as nobody would list shit in a public discord instead of keeping it private to their friends
No, I'm still playing guild wars 1.
Based. I'm thinking of going back and playing an Assassin. What's a good second profession?
There's no answer to that because assassins can find a use in almost every second profession, since they're the most versatile but also most braindead profession to play.
Warrior is a common choice for survivability but you'll most likely ignore your secondary entirely for title skills such as you move like a dwarf and save yourselves (this one might be a warrior skill I honestly don't remember).
Elementalist can be fun if you do a star burst build.
>Let's take everyones important and valued roles, and throw them in the garbage!
>EVERYONE is their own healer, tank, and dps!
Way to destroy any sense of identity or duty in your game with your socialist utopian bullshit. There is ZERO weight or meaning to anything in this game. At least as a tank in FFXIV or WoW I feel like I'm doing something important for a group and can differentiate myself from others.
a game for true individuals
>Let's take everyones important and valued roles, and throw them in the garbage!
>At least as a tank in FFXIV or WoW I feel like I'm doing something important for a group and can differentiate myself from others.
This would be a compelling argument if GW2 group content didn't have important and valued roles that provided something important for a group.
Does Ganker even bother playing the games they criticize?
I feel like if you had actually ever played GW2 you would at least know that it has designated group role compositions.
i dropped it 6months after launch back in 2012
still got my big rytlock figure
>love fem Asurans
>main class is rev and all the heavy armor looks like shit on asura
zhaitan take me please
Post Asuras, homosexuals.
>open world leveling
Okay I'm liking this
>massive open roaming WvWvW pvp
Okay this is getting better
>forced linear storyline full of cringe writing that blocks character progression until completed
Sigh, it was almost a great game too. Oh well, dropped.
WoW still better, gw2 is boring shit
Ganker you gotta shake off your hate for gw2 not being guild wars. Because nothing will live up to it and its memories. I'm sorry
I got over GW2 not being GW1. GW2 is still fricking dog vomit.
>LOL STOP BLAMING NOSTIGLIA!
>you hate the story? Just ignore it! lol!
>pvp full of bot? lol who do pvp? ignore it!
>your spec get nerf? lol just ignore its!
>bored? Lol YOU HATE GW2!
>etc etc etc
I don't believe in a single word in this obviously biased """review""" or any """review""" that comes out in this god forsaken site.
Maybe you should frick off to reddit then
>this god forsaken site
How do people like you find this website and why do you choose to remain?
List of MMOS better than GW2
>WoW
>ESO
>Lost Ark
>FFXIV
>New World
even funnier. the steam release the same time as the FF14 update.
>FF14
who cares
Frick off back to your dead general. Take your woke garbage and piss off.
Here's the issue with GW2 and will always be the issue with GW2:
It's combat is shit. It's lackluster and also lacks depth. The hits you do feel weak and have no "heaviness" to them. Anytime you cast a spell or do an attack, you basically just swing and it feels like your shit goes through an enemy. They don't recoil, there's no amazing sound effect to your hit most of the time, and the animations feel EXTREMELY floaty. This is especially true when fighting many mobs at once, the sound engine can't even handle that much shit on the screen wanting "sound-time", so there's like 1 "hit" sound that goes off every 5 seconds while you get hit by like 3 things invisibly.
I will give it the fact that it's come a long way. The story is better for sure in Path of Fire and beyond, and the world building is pretty decent. Gliding and doing shit in Heart of Thorns is pretty awesome and the PoIs are neat. The mount system is pretty unique and enjoyable. The downside is that eventually you WILL have to do combat, and it just destroys everything else you experienced up until that point. Everything in this game has been updated over time. The textures, the world, the shaders, etc. But the combat remains floaty and dead since launch. World bosses and mega elites come down use 1 > 2 > 3, and sometimes your Z or X ability. Then you weapon swap and do it again every 9 seconds. Its dull and uninspired.
>lust provoking image
>It's combat is shit. It's lackluster and also lacks depth
Same with XIV or WOW
>Anytime you cast a spell or do an attack, you basically just swing and it feels like your shit goes through an enemy
Even worse in XIV
>animations feel EXTREMELY floaty
Your toon literally slides through the ground in XIV while casting a spell
> the sound engine can't even handle that much shit on the screen wanting "sound-time", so there's like 1 "hit" sound that goes off every 5 seconds while you get hit by like 3 things invisibly
The engine has far worse problems than just hte sound, but fair
>Its dull and uninspired
You don't seem to play much mmos do you? XIV has the most miserable combat system in any MMO for 80% of the main game storyline, and even endgame is utterly trash, especially for healers
and yet xiv is still a better game than gw2 will ever be
Anon dont respond to
XIV gays never criticize their own game, they just bring up WoW for no fricking reason endlessly
>Criticize mmo
>BUT WHAT ABOUT XIV
true sign of being top dog. Did Wowgays deal with the same shit back then?
Only when a new MMO released. WoW in its prime fended off plenty of WoWkillers, but then as time passed Blizzard swallowed more and more political woke sewage and here we are.
In fact, WoW is having another seizure right now!
>oh no a bug
Frick off troony
>oh no a catastrophic bug that shut down the entire auction house system across all servers with the possibility of trillions of gold being duped
Yeah just small shit bros don't worry heh right?
A bug is still just a bug, it's not going to kill the game, trannies
Tick tock Blizzdrone, your job is going to get a lot harder soon
projection is strong with this one
>It's combat is shit.
BUT REDDIT TELL ME THAT WRONG!>!>>!! But seriously, I find this annoying consider that most mmo does combat better without feeling like shit. I had more action in Neverwinter Online and DCUO.
> The story is better for sure in Path of Fire
Just PoF for the sole purpose of being team with Rytlock and Canach. What happen after ward is utter shit when they pair you up with Braham again and then proceed to frick everything up. Don't even bother looking into Cantha
The neverwinter mmo had some genuinely fun combat. Same the rest of the game is kinda shit.
I still hate that they kill Forge, the one and only thing that made them stand out. The amount of player made story I play was timeless.
You can get similar combat in GW2 now, you just turn on 'toggle action cam'
Your left click is your auto attack and you just gotta rebind your hotbar. Bam, action MMO combat.GW2 already does AOE swings and abilities so it feels natural.
It's not better than XIV, WoW, or Lost Ark. Plus what's the point of a steam release anyway, msot people will still be on the old client and all that the steam client will be good for is shitposting about concurrent players
>much better than any MMO on the market
So in the end it's still complete dogshit for morons like all MMOs.
New World bros I'm scared, we were just mounting a comeback. Is this going to poach players from us?
I think the only thing that had bad timing here is that WotLK is coming out the week after, I don't know if there's much overlap but it's there
new world is a waiting room for other mmos during content droughts, that's literally its niche.
My GW2 account got stolen by chinks and I don't even give a frick.
It's the only MMO with good pvp, but it's dead now
>gw2 thread
>endless seething about another game
I played GW2 on launch and fricking hated it
>shitty "cutscenes of 2 characters talking over a painted backdrop."
>character building is highly simplified compared to the first game
>entirely removed hero system
>not signets of capture so you can obtain skills from defeating PvE bosses.
>horrible level scaling which made it feel like you never got stronger
>promised no "kill 10 rat" quests but just called them renown hearts instead of quests so technically they didn't lie
>went from having a more cool and serious tone in the original game to having a cutesy SJW saturday morning cartoon tone in GW2.
>Charr somehow went from being tribal savages to industrial-era technology despite humans not progressing technologically at all.
>had the amazing idea for "living world" content to become completely unplayable if you missed it. They only realized this was a bad idea after an entire season of content became permanently unplayable. They only recently made this content playable again
>SJW shit
Guild Wars 1 had such a comfy and unique vibe and mechanics and Anet fricked it up by hiring a bunch of incompetent dangerhairs.
What killed it for me was that they promised no gear grind then slowly started adding more tiers of loot.
Maybe they stopped, I dunno, I don't care. I wasn't grinding gear so I dropped the game immediately.
I played it on launch and thought it was alright. Not great but had potential. Orr was fantastic at launch, really showed what the event system could have been, but then they went and nerfed it. Same with the dungeons, figuring out how to clear all the dungeon puzzles and encounters was cool at launch but then not too long after they go and nerf it all to the point where you didn't have to even try to clear anything.
I honestly don't mind Guild Wars 2 at start, but a combination of Sylvari, and later these shit fricks and the living story, ruin the game for me. The fact we have to see Braham frick up everything and still ALIVE is just a giant middle finger.
They stopped the cutscene thing but most of that shit isn't in the game anymore or left behind.
Level scaling got changed, hearts got dropped for the most part, Living world doesn't drop out from the game if you don't play, it's just extra mini expansion content.
WvW is guild based very soon, it is this week at least.
The end game is strikes, raids, fractals, world bosses, all the expansions since they don't stop being irrelevant.
No it's not you just are moronic.
>The end game is strikes, raids, fractals, world bosses, all the expansions since they don't stop being irrelevant.
All of the instanced content is awful. Even the world bosses just amount to zerging. They put in actual mechanics on the newest expansion boss and the community got so triggered because they couldn't beat it that the devs had to nerf the encounter so these shitters didn't have to do actual mechanics to win lol
Sad thing is shitters still fail it
Think it went from a 30% success at the very beginning to a 70% chance of success nowadays
>all the expansions since they don't stop being irrelevant.
I bet my left nut that if I go play GW2 now, hit cap and want to do content, all that's gonna be feasible to do without spending insane amounts of time socializing or in discord is gonna be the latest expansion content and that only, your shill tactics do not work on me, you have no power here Anet.
You spend a ton of time in each expansion as a new player, and people run meta in all the expansions all the time.
In fact I'd say Heart of Thorns has more active players than Path of Fire.
It's not like other MMO's where people only do brand new content.
What game doesn't complain about making shit too hard? WoW does it a lot too. The average MMO player doesn't play for stupid top tier challenge.
It was because people went into it expecting something like Dragon Stand that is hard to fail, the winrate went up because community effort and better party planning. They didn't nerf it that much either.
>The average MMO player doesn't play for stupid top tier challenge.
But we're not talking stupid top tier challenge. it was a literal break bar mechanic, which has been in the game forever.
But the players are asked to do anything with a modicum of direction other than SPAM SKILLS AND DODGE and they fail miserably. They're basically standing in fire and whining that the fire burns them.
t. someone who didn't do dragon's end.
You do not have to play the game.
LS2 sucks and most players say to dodge it unless you NEED the mastery points.
Sorry no one warned you, it's actually the LEAST relevant LS content.
It's good it doesn't attract that many weeaboos, they larp as women in online spaces and frick up everything
You activate the story chapter you want to play and you play it. It does not really include completing maps.
You're doing a shit job at shilling. Report to management for punishment.
That' the great thing about video games, if you don't want to play it, you don't have to.
I'm not trying to shill for players who aren't interested.
>Guild Wars 2
>Has neither Guild nor Wars
>Horizontal progression
>Shit classes
>Brainless raiding
>Dead PVP
>Hardly any end game PVE outside of world events
>Best MMO on the market
Not even close. The only thing this game does well are the mounts.
Not gonna lie bros, I've tried to pick-up GW2 a couple of times over the years but I always end up quitting around level 20. Moving from one map to another and completing a checklist does not do it for me, it's not fun nor engaging in any way.
Horizontal progression is a good thing, it isn't the reason why GW2 is shit.
Horizontal works for some folks. That's cool if they're into that. As one of the most common complaints about GW2 is the horizontal progression, I'd venture to say that it's an issue for a majority of people who bounce off the game once they hit cap.
>majority of people who bounce off the game once they hit cap.
I hate this, not because they jump and play a different mmo, but they do this and brag about how great Guild Wars 2 was. /r/mmorpg might a well be Guild Wars 2 subreddit with all the dick sucking they have for Guild Wars 2. These frickers get bored of Guild Wars 2 and try to find another mmo in that reddit, but then just took over it.
Horizontal is preferred by people who like pvp over PvE, and that's where gw2 shines tbh. Horizontal progression + great PvP (large and small scale).
If you disagree you simply don't know what you are talking about.
lol gw2 is dead as dead can be. pathetic shill
>barely any pve content
>the main pvp mode is dead
why play? to collect shit? to play dress up? there are games better to do that in that have content.
will they add the rest of living world season one for steam?
Better ready up your shekels paypig hehe
>bought season 2 with all of my gold
>story is lame, but instances are decent
>decide to paypig for expansion collection
>heart of thorns is too short, seemed like a quarter of the content that they gave for free with living world
>new maps are shit Auric Basin meta was ok to be fair
>have to farm gold again to continue story without sequence breaking
>action mmo
>high ping even for a burger game
>no local servers
>cash shoppe
No.
OSrunescape better
>mandatory gay parades
Nah your game is gay
gw2 died the moment they perma banned kripp for a minor exploit
is there a mythic/savage equivalent content in gw2?
I dont know what that means.
> it's a different game now
Yeah it went from a shit sequel to GW1 to full on troony-core
Then don't play the story, you wont run into it.
It's not FF14, you dont have to play out the entire story to do anything
>Then don't play the story
How about don't play the game
Can anyone tell me where the actual story is at ? Please tell me it's not the fricking moving from map to map to do the checklist shit until you die.
It's right here
Base game is you joining military branches then fighting zombies made by a dragon
Intermission is techno pirates and engineer plant chick causing chaos
Heart of thorns you go to attack the jungle dragon, but it attacks you. You also start How to raise a Dragon part 1
Intermission you're trying to figure out who the new bad guy is and humans have a internal conflict
Path of fire. It's time to kill a God
Intermission you kill a dragon. How to raise a Dragon part duos. Undead lich comes back to disconnect. Kill 2 more dragons
End of Dragons. Welcome to sanfrantoyko little Korea editon. Papers please. Then kill a dragon
Lich comes to disco* autocorrected
>gw1 was a cozy co-op mmolite
>gw2 is full on mmoshit
i will never forgive them
It's not even better than ff14 and that's saying something
no one cares about this game, this a an attempt to milk out a little bit more money before they announce the servers shutting down in a year
They said last year that they've doubled their active playerbase over the last 3 years. It's just by word of mouth and not fricking up content so drastically like other games it's held up so well.
Facts, plus WvW with a few friends is pure kino.
I mean, you can't complain about trannies and play the Japanese troony fest simulator.
Also FF14 is not an MMO. it's a VN with a queue.
There's another expansion coming
Why would I play that schock instead of just continuing to play XIV? Anyways, isn't it full of actual troony bullshit and some morons plant OC.
No. I did not have fun when I last played and I doubt they've fixed the combat or class design to be worthwhile.
Are all the dragons dead yet
Dragons are all dead, dragon saga over.
I have no clue what they're doing next but the 4th expansion is in the pipeline.
Basically the story summed up.
I will say the story may be mid as hell most of the time but it does keep tension pretty well for it's pacing and the set pieces in the game are really good
>releasing alongside Wrath Classic
dead on arrival LMAO
I remember trying guildwars 2 early on and discovering they had gotten rid of literally everything cool about guild wars one. Then I grinded up all my weapon skills and ran out of actual progression by the time I finished tutorial zone. The idea of continuing to play the game without gaining new skills or abilities was so fricking mind numbingly boring I dropped it.
No amount of sunk cost fallacy will make this game anything but a series of bad design decisions with good QOL polish wrapped around it. To say nothing of the completely moronic story.
Hey remember that time a developer told a well known community rep to frick himself for being a white male and got fired?
>Hey remember that time a developer told a well known community rep to frick himself for being a white male and got fired?
The only good thing to ever come out of GW2.
I mean, he got fired didn't he? What's the problem?
also yeah launch was shit and rough, the game now is fricking sick though. I played to 80 at launch and dropped it but the expansions have added a lot and changed a lot to fix it
>I remember trying guildwars 2 early on and discovering they had gotten rid of literally everything cool about guild wars one. Then I grinded up all my weapon skills and ran out of actual progression by the time I finished tutorial zone. The idea of continuing to play the game without gaining new skills or abilities was so fricking mind numbingly boring I dropped it.
so you didn't play it? You don't unlock all your skills till much later, and all elite specs are locked behind max level
>so you didn't play it?
I stopped gaining new weapon abilities and class skills were 10-20 levels apart
It was boring and your snippy "SO YOU DIDNT PLAY IT" says all that needs to be said about your headspace. Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug
They doubled the exp of all content for leveling and you get your raptor mount at level 10 now.
It should go by a lot quicker.
>so you didn't play it?
>elite specs are locked behind max level
elite specs are locked behind expansions that didn't exist early on.
>dead pvp
>dead pve
what exactly do you do in this game?
>say everything is dead
>have no proof other than an anon who doesn't play it saying it
Wow...its SO over bros....
I feel like if gw2 had coomer mods, this game would be praised
I love the artstyle and world, just fon't have a reason to stay in it. Most mmos I will linger in for gear glamor, but that sucks in GW2 because anything of interest demands some crafting and the value of mats are inevitably influenced buy gold buying so getting them naturally becomes endless strings of boring farming. I preferred loot drops dungeons or modestly harder content like XIV's EX trials but it seems GW2s endgame rewards are extremely lackluster.
More cool content should be exclusively accesible by gameplay. It will always end up grindier than necessary if it ultimately links back to gold.
this game did not age well huh
lol these are screenshots of the first year of gw2
First wintersday and halloween
>same date at 6.2 update for ffxiv and 3.0 update for genshin impact
Wew they picked a bad day to launch on steam
Yeah, tbh it really is. I'm not sure the FF one adds much but WoW classic is hitting a lot of road blocks since people are tired of classic.
Just bad timing since they wanted it for the 10th anniversary of GW2 which is the same week.
I do think however that GW2's appeal is not in the same playerbases as those games, WoW and FF14 simps suck the cum of their devs no matter how bad the content is
>WoW and FF14 simps suck the cum of their devs no matter how bad the content is
at least these games get content, what did gw2 last patch add? have they even had a patch since their new expansion?
Yes, a lot.
Massive rebalances and fixing the game for the new player experience for the steam launch along with Chapter 3 of LS1
They add shit quite often, they realized smaller, more common patches is better for retention.
so no actual content?
...Chapter 3 of LS1 is content along with game wide balance changes that reworked entire systems in the game
You just want a new raid tier to grind for in a month and drop a game for 3 more months. That's not GW2's objective.
so what you're saying is the game gets no new content?
Did they ever add back in the hero system from GW1? The idea of having an mmo where you could effectively play a full party of characters was fun
It defeats the purpose of the MMO when your party members are just AI
The heroes weren't just AI in GW1 dipshit.
>The idea of having a MMO without other players was fun
Just play jrpgs you loser
>having a bunch of obsessive no-lifers b***h at you for not playing according to whatever the current gay meta is because you didn't look up guides is super fun!
think just achievos and a new armor set/weapon set. Not sure yet, we'll find out on the 23rd
Ncsoft saw anet's other projects were moneypits and told them to focus all dev work into their live, non-maintenancemode game
So yeah there's the potential it shuts down soon anyway, ncsoft will cut the american dev fat before touching their korean lineageclone studios
>is coming to Steam
for what purpose? I don't get it
>f2p mmo
not on your life kiddo
i bet the steam launch gets sub 15k
gw1 wasnt an mmo you fricking idiots, and its why gw2 will forever be in its shadow because it through out everything from a good game and made a terrible one
>Dev diary & manifesto pledges end to the "gear treadmill" and outlines cosmetic, skin and title-based progression system that's accessible through both PvE and PvP.
>Less than 90 days after release announce a new tier of gear and grindy as frick PvE end-game
Fool me once, frickers.ANet's on my never-again-under-any-circumstances list. Incompetence I can deal with but straight-up bat and switching your player base is where I draw the line.
Game went to the complete shitdrain when mommy left
I will never return to this shitfest that expects me to be all friendly with the Ch*rr and shat on my boy Balthazar.
>Its one of the best mmos on the market right now
Thats true, but theres a bunch of flaws that ruin the game over the long run and they didnt get fixed for years