>Have fond memories of Megaman Legends
>Beaten Megaman Legends over 10 times
>Still can't finish Megaman Legends 2
Why is it so shit compared to the first despite being similar?
>Have fond memories of Megaman Legends. >Beaten Megaman Legends over 10 times
I think it's better in every way except story. I also happen to LOVE the water dungeon.
>I think it's better in every way except story. I also happen to LOVE the water dungeon.
Based water anon
We have a dying fan base of 30 yo millennials, and you think its best to infight over the two fucking games we got?
Don't worry, you'll get a new round of Zoomer fans following the Mega Man Legends Legacy Collection 🙂
>Legacy collection
It would be funny, if it weren't so damn sad.
It's possible. They've done every other property in Mega Man and there's three games. Sure it'd be the most difficult to port but we've seen it done with other ps1 games
>two fucking games
*ahem*
This game was shit though.
This game had cool proto Pikmin/Overlord aspects i wish they had elaborated on instead of some of the other shit stuff it had.
This post is shit though.
tronne bonne is an awful game, its only recognition is its some high priced collector item because it sold so poorly there are very few copies out there
Most original opinion ever, tell me something else.
there isnt much else to say other than it's shit but you seem to already know that
What's bad about it?
what in tronne bonne is bad? It's just kirby superstar but in the MML engine
Exactly, i don't even know what's this anon is bitter about
It’s not even that bad you cockguzzler. Interacting with the servbots on your ship is plenty of fun.
Shut your maggot mouth
>Capcom does pikmin before pikmin
>it’s shit
>Nintendo does it
>10/10 perfect master piece
It’s a good game
Pikman wasnt a smash hit either
It's a million seller which is more than can be said about MML
It should've been an action game with the mech all the time. It's just a busywork simulator.
it's almost like OP is intentionally trying to troll and bait for (You)s or something
It's almost like you can't read a thread
Tell that to Banjo fans
Haha eekum bokum right? XD
2 is a better 3D Mega Man. 1 is is a better Zelda with guns.
wtfdym it's an epic sequel. It keeps upping the ante with more and more cool shit
I dunno, I get bored 2 hours in every time, right after I do that first jungle style dungeon. It doesnt have the same pull ML1 does to keep me interested, ML1 also had the omega comfy town
Legends 2 has a variety of kino towns
The jungle dungeon isn't remarkable but I don't rly think 1 had remarkable dungeons anyway. Legends 2 has grand kino up ahead
>I also happen to LOVE the water dungeon.
Fuck you man, that dungeon was such a slow fucking slog.
>Legends 2 has a variety of kino towns
The Desert Island town was a fucking blast and the Nino Island defense battles we're the peak of the game for me.
>3 would have been a single island game
Anon, that port looks like it was ripped from MGS Peacewalker. Snake fought Peacewalker on that harbor. The LORE.
>I still refuse to give Capcom money for anything they produce because of this. Fuck those petty assholes.
Based.
2 lacks the atmosphere of the first.
Megaman's voice is fucking GAY.
None of the bosses are memorable
Shit, none of the zones are, aside from the snow area.
I remember the slime boss, the mammoth, and that big dark underground area that was kinda spooky
>None of the bosses are memorable
Giant Reaverbot was pretty memorable
Bitch you're not forgetting the bosses when you hear these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-7dnz-RT8
>Legends 1
>Can get all the weapons, items and buster upgrades in the game by finding parts around the game world/ruins, talking to NPCs or doing sidequests, and the only item you really need to buy at the junk shop is the flak jacket
>Legends 2
>Need to pass the obnoxious S class digger test
>To get the S class permit
>To then walk back to the Flutter
>To talk to Roll
>To move to Manda Island
>To go in and out of the sub-ruin until a certain enemy pattern is picked from the dungeon RNG
>To walk through 4 doors
>To kill a giant golden bird, walk out of the room, then back in and kill it again, over and over and over, to grind for zenny
>So you can complete all the sidequests that require you to pay zenny
>And to get parts to build any new weapon or buster upgrade (most of which are now only available via the junk shop)
>Most of which are also not available to buy right away and are unlocked as you progress through the story, forcing you to buy one item, then grind for a slightly better one later, or just buy a fuckton of canteens
Besides the story having too many different places and subplots crammed into it in quick succession while at the same time leaving quite a few things unresolved, as well as the water dungeon being so taxing on the PSX that it actually runs slower than it actually should (thus being very fucking tedious), MML2 removed the focus of dungeons exploration in favor of grinding. Grinding that IS required to make progress in some parts of the game.
The best method around is to kill the Golden King Miroc Reaverbot over and over in one of the dungeons. Kill, walk out the door, walk back in, kill it again, over and over and over. Trust me when I tell you: If you really want to play it, and at any point you get tired of grinding, just gameshark it for infinite money and move on with it. It's not worth the effort.
https://mmls.proboards.com/thread/3045/zenny-mml2
I heard they rebalanced the absurd Zenny costs of everything in the PSP port. I still love MML2 but they really dropped the ball on some of their design choices.
The MOST offensive thing to me was that there was no elevator from the entrance to the final boss fight back to the entrance of the final dungeon. They even had a structure set up between each floor on your way down that looked exactly like a placeholder for a fucking elevator. I know it seems like something petty to gripe about, but I hold the MML games in high regard and to see something like triggered me big time.
Some more side quests like the ones in the first game (helping that crippled chick, the pregnant lady, the police car chase, etc.) would have been nice as well. Seems like they focused way more on fleshing out the story/lore and forgot to add more detailed interactions for world-building.
Mega Man Triggered
It’s true
Where is grinding ever required? I liked 2 more cause it was less of an rpg and just mostly felt like a series of stages one after the other.
>Where is grinding ever required?
You need to buy all the different boots in order to clear dungeons that advance the story.
Only the aquatic jet boot, no? The electric and fire one makes your life easier but you can also just skip on it
Yeah, I beat the game as a kid and never bothered buying any of that shit. Definitely didn’t do any grinding either.
The final boss was hard as hell but I still did it.
Primarily that one, yeah. The different boots grant you access to places with lots of zenny that mitigate the grinding to get enough buster upgrades to go to Elysium.
>Need to pass the obnoxious S class digger test
I didn't even know it was mandatory, I just did it because I'm not a gay and found it fun. Anyway Roll's posh Canadian accent makes my dick diamonds
Now use your diamond tipped shovel and get back to digging!
holy shit get good. I never *needed* to do this.
This is the problem with retards who believe every word from FAQs written by autists who are wrong.
>Get good at doing boring shit just to buy items
Boring does not mean difficult. Were you homeschooled, you dumb fucking gorilla moron?
Nino island ruins only run poorly in emulators, maybe if you were using a PS1 and not a PSX you would have no problem.
how fucking old is your emulator? beetle and duck run fine on nino, get a better pc
Not the one complaining about slowdown, zoomerfag learn to read.
if anything emulators run the nino island ruins faster retard
Nope you illiterate third worlder, it's how emufags like yourself out yourselves. Now we all know.
I'm gonna rape you with a cactus.
>fucktard names an emulator
>dumb fuck describes an emulator only issue
>ackchuyally I was talking about THIS PATENT
You're fucking pathetic, find a father figure. Save your autism for Ganker.
I did not mention emulators at all, you HFCS-swilling retarded gorilla moron spawn of a gutter whore. I'm talking about the real fucking console.
I'll rip your asshole inside out.
So basically he is bitching that you called it a PSX??
Yeah, like every other dumbass zoomie that plagues this board.
What's the fucking point?? Why is it not a PSX?
The problem you complained about in nino ruins doesn't exist on the real console, so your tantrum you've prepared your mspaint infographics for is irrelevant to the fact you're a liar. Dumbest poster on the board.
wtf are you cunts arguing about
Anyway, 3 would have been a single island game as far as all that was leaked showcased.
what platform was it gonna be on
3DS.
The engine was later used on Monster Hunter Stories, one of the best looking games on the 3DS with also some of the biggest explorable maps.
The more you look into MML3, the harder it hurts.
fug
>You'll get endless open world OoT clones, but MM Legends? Nononono, that's too hard and doesn't make enough money!
Fuck this gay earth
Wasnt that EX lost planet thing made from legends 3 remnants also?
Bits of it also became the two Gaist King games for 3DS. Legends 3 was murdered and it's corpse was robbed.
It's almost as if it was the fault of a certain con man
To be fair, when he left the project was believed to be too far in a build state to cancel. The Prototype build was showcased even on Japanese morning shows and live events and was ready for international distribution.
I still refuse to give Capcom money for anything they produce because of this. Fuck those petty assholes.
Only the Prototype build was going to be set in a single island due to it double-serving as a demo and as a preamble to the main game, like the Rockman DASH 2 Episode 1 demo in Japan.
Despite having multiple islands, they all felt small. Kinda wish we could have gotten a 6th gen MML (but not by the X7 team).
Idk what anyone else thinks nor do I really care, but Legends 2 was one of the worst games I've ever played in my life. And I liked the first one a lot, so I tried my best to like Legends 2 as well. Just didn't happen.
One of the things I loved about MML1 was the island you were marooned on. It was big, complex, and you spend the entire post-tutorial game on it. You have a lot of time to get attached to Kattelox Island, its quirks, and its people. As you progress through the game, the island opens up to you and gives you more to explore, not just in the city but also underground in the ruins, and it was really cool to see how almost all the underground ruins connected to each other, able to reach the "big" ones by entering through one of the smaller ones.
MML2 doesn't have that. You're mostly island hopping throughout most of the game, with almost no attachment to the places you go to or the people in them. In fact, a good number of them are rather annoying, like the two brats you need to escort, and almost everyone on fucking Nino Island. The atmosphere and environmental art also went in a completely different direction. MML1 felt like an adventure in an unknown land full of mystery and uncertain with its musical (or lack thereof) ambience, whereas MML2 felt like a Saturday morning cartoon no matter where you went (aside from the Residential Area in Elysium).
Also, fuck the Digger tests. All I had to do to get those in MML1 was flex against the Bonnes and save everyone. I do that in MML2 against Glyde and I STILL need to do your bullshit tests? No thanks.
They really ought to have been a single game instead of the split, even though that would have weakened both of them due to the lack of dev resources.
Why won't Capcom just make Legends 3 with a modest budget? They've made so many big budget flops, but won't take a moderate risk on something people have wanted for decades. Legends was the kind of series that would really benefit from current technology to be a smoother and more fast paced experience. As much as I like the the series, the games were always pretty stiff and janky.
Because they are embarrassed of being a Japanese company, much like Sony.
Sony stopped being Japanese for well over a decade.
Yeah, for the most part. Sony in the current year is kissing ass to the ESG shitheads and Bay Area SJW moralists. MAJOR Ls on par with Twitch's often half-witted, and ""diversity+equity"" shitheads worse than Capcom is.
At least Capcom can still release a fun game. Sony's movie "games" are seriously awful pretentious shit that I don't even want to play for free
Yeah, they were always a pretty being westaboo company to the point that it almost destroyed them during the 7th gen
Sony didn't go full westabootardation until during the mid-late 2010s.
As soon as they shut down the dev studio with "Japan" literally in its name, it was sayounara to their roots.
MONKE
Alright, I defeated the "Duck bots" and I'm on the 3rd(?) island now, this is the farthest I've been, I hope it gets better.
These fucking mini games are getting tiring
>Right before the fort level fight
Get used to them lol
Especially the flying ones
Man, I just got back to the guildmaster town, and now the fucking chickens are attacking it AGAIN
im really trying to power through this
Man so many of these fucking mini games feel pointless, this was such a short section and easy
How are those "mini games"? Stop throwing words around you don't know what they mean. This is like saying half of the sections in RE4 are "mini games".
No, I'm going to continue calling them mini-games.
Those are basically boss fights that spam multiple segments
That second one in particular is identical to the bossfight in the first game when you're on the plane or on the submarine
>hurr durr mini games
With a state of mind like that no wonder you don't enjoy the game, you had decided not to like it before playing and now you're dishonest on the game on purpose to fit your pre-determined idea. Just stop playing already, you sound like one of those people who are unable to form their own opinion, so you've been told to dislike it and now you'll do everything in your power not to enjoy it. Go watch another hidden gem video on youtube so you can know what game you're allowed to like
Not reading all that, they're mini-games, simple as.
nta, but please do us all a favor and have a nice day, moron.
They're mini-games. I will keep you all updated on how many more I run into. Thank you for reading my thread.
No he's right. It's a minigame and it sucks.
This is by far the most annoying dungeon I've done so far. Adjusting the water level and navigating wasn't bad, but just how fucking slow you move when the room is flooded makes this not fun to go through, what the fuck were they thinking. And yeah I had the hydro jets, they didn't help much
now we're talking
>desert level
>desert music starts playing
It's kino every time
This dungeon has been the most fun until this retarded mini-game showed up, seemed entirely pointless, there's no timer and it was easy, just more filler.
Eat shit. 🙂
You are the most retarded moron I have ever had the displeasure of being in the same thread as. Only reason I'm here is because I love Megaman Legends, it's the most SOVLFUL game of all time. But you really gotta kys you blogging moron.
>mini game
What a fucking retard
Yeah they're mini games, they're usually timed and even tell you 'mission start', they're games inside of games you can fail. a mini game
because i want to say i beat it, its not all bad but the pacing is shit
thank you for reading
Getting hit is a pain but I didn't have an issue with the level and I have actual ADHD. I guess I was soaking in (heh) the mood
(OP)
I dont know, I think 2 its much better in gameplay, story, graphics and music.
I guess 1 is more "comfy" with the one island.
I'm going to give it another go anons, I just beat the tutorial dungeon. God I fucking hate the beginning too.
Alright, just reached the point where I normally drop the game, gonna try to power through the borefest and see if it gets better.
Kink dithering
MML flows better and is inherently more replayable. MML2 is more story driven. I don't replay MML2 either, I don't have to make excuses for it. MML2 is an amazing game but MML is simply better at being replayable. If I was disrupted in my attempt to finish MML2 the first time I would likely have not finished the game either, assuming I knew the rest of the plot through the internet or something.
Im the same way its been 23 years and i still havent finished legends 2 even once but i have finished 1 many times
I should really give these games a try.
The PSX version was the "one" right?
Ye play psx
Really the issue with Tron Bonne is the lack of a mission where she sends red cap to get her some tampons and a screw driver.
That's not how her outfit works. Also I don't know wtf is going on with the right, pink bands around her thighs and stuff. I'm mad jelly over her outfit, can't wear that kind of thing irl but wish we could.
Her outfit is literally a perma upskirt display. It's awesome.
I can't unsee the porn
i love this character and wish there were games where you could play directly as her
Curry rice!
God I hate those mini games
i have played mml1 roughly half a dozen times. always appreciate it.
ive never finished mml2. i always get about 1/2 or 3/4 of the way through and quit out of sheer boredom. none of the new antagonists are interesting and they only take time away from the bonnes who are the real stars of the show.
broken level design (bigger "world" but feels smaller because all the generic themed dungeons), mini-games and set-pieces that suck, annoying npcs, etc, etc. it certainly controls better than mml1 but thats about it?
i do at least have memories of doing the quiz game with my brother during christmas without the help of the internet. and ofc the reward you get is something that isnt intrinsically valuable in itself. and when you can make the blade weapon it requires a fuck ton of zenny to upgrade. somehow playing kick the dog over and over again in mml1 never really bothered me as much as grinding in mml2.
i even tried playing it again two years ago and stalled out. yet again.
Damn, I made this thread just expecting people to shit all over my idea of never finishing it despite trying it but actually surprised how many others ended up feeling the same way I do.
Currently just forcing myself through it just to say I've beaten it and know what the whole game was about when I get free time.
I also never really got into it, but forced myself to finish it once. I love 1 and have played through it at least 10 times.
Nice of you to let out a fart, leave, then come back to comment on it several days later.
I hate OPs like you.
I've been posting the entire time retard.
GTFO my thread and be a homo somewhere else.
This isn’t supposed to be your fucking blog, dude.
Imagine a world where the awe-inspiring adventures of Mega Man Volnutt continue to captivate us, where we traverse vast landscapes, battling formidable Reaverbots, and unearthing the mysteries of ancient ruins. Alas, this utopia remains but a tantalizing dream, forever out of reach!
Just envision the possibilities, my friends. Mega Man Legends 3 would have transported us to a realm of unparalleled wonder, pushing the boundaries of storytelling and gameplay in ways we could never fathom. The rich lore, endearing characters, and immersive world-building would have enraptured us, granting us countless hours of joy and escapism!
But lo and behold, this majestic opus was cruelly snatched away from us. The universe, devoid of justice, conspired to rob us of this gem. Its cancellation left a void in our hearts, an abyss that cannot be filled by mere re-releases and remasters. We were left yearning for closure, craving answers to questions left unresolved.
The absence of Mega Man Legends 3 is an injustice that echoes through the ages! It's a travesty that resonates deep within our souls, an indescribable pain that words fail to capture adequately. We are left to wander through the realms of imagination, crafting stories in our minds that can never truly replace the real thing.
>crafting stories in our minds that can never truly replace the real thing.
Canon is one helluva drug, eh?
Its good in the early game, especially in the birdbot missions, but it stops being useful later on.
i didnt mind the water level as a kid. and conceptually its not bad. but upon replay it feels like playing something at 6fps.
I also like 1 more.
I also stalled on parts of 2 and realize the game has faults.
I don’t however agree with your excessive nipticks nor do I see the point of it. If you honestly don’t like it that much, why even bother playing it. It’s a fucking game, you don’t play them if you don’t enjoy them. You won’t get anything else from doing it.
I love ML2 but it always felt unsettling to me.
Almost every location felt depressing for one reason or another. Like the world's already long gone and the people you meet are just waiting to die.
Didn't have that feeling with the first one.
>the people you meet are just waiting to die
no shit that's literally their purpose
I've beaten the first one multiple times too but have failed to get into the second after multiple attempts.
I think it's the intro, it's long and story heavy with no actual gameplay and then you get thrown into the town just to dive into more story.
What were they thinking, going for more than half an hour without any actual combat in a MegaMan game?
I'm sure one of these days I'll be able to make it past the intro to the actual game and hopefully the pacing improves once you get going.
>you HFCS-swilling retarded gorilla moron spawn of a gutter whore.
>I'll rip your asshole inside out.
Either autism or a woman.
>woman
explain
I cant beat the part at the beginning where the robots are destroying the buildings help
Talk to Data before going to the North side.
1 just had more soul. It took me a few tries to play through MML2 in its entirety but I sort've forced myself to one day. It is actually a pretty good game, but the first is still better.