>Have perfectly adequate melee build. >Decide to reroll stats to try mage out. >Immediately regret my decision

>Have perfectly adequate melee build
>Decide to reroll stats to try mage out
>Immediately regret my decision
Magic is fucking tedious when you can just kill things with a Halberd.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    magic halberd

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bows and crafting even more so. The game really ought to incentivize non-traditional styles of play instead of just making them a boring alternative.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bows have always been janky in Souls but I like them the most in ER. The bow AOWs are actually useful and jump/roll shots are OP. I beat Fortissax solely with a mid-upgraded Pulley Bow on a normal melee focused build no problem using jump shots and charge shots.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're good and viable, just not fun enough to use to warrant the tedious resource gathering required to use them at their best.
        As this

        Magic isn't fun in Souls mainly because of the control scheme and design around how spells are equipped. It should've been designed to let you equip a staff with 4 spells that you can immediately access with R1, R2, L2+R1, L2+R2. With treating spells more like melee you could even have some spells that can combo into other spells.

        guy said, the control scheme isn't designed for non-melee users and it sucks. Bows ought to have a different kind of shot depending on what button you press. And with the option to stab with arrows and wack with the bow maybe.
        As is bow gameplay is basically just activating barrage and R1 mashing bleed, poison, or scarlet rot arrows into the boss.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tedious resource gathering
          If anything I find resource gathering WAY less tedious with a bow since I can just easily shoot all the small animals and birds and shit from a distance as I ride pass them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you decide to not use a bow there's little reason to gather resources at all.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you can just buy arrows. souls gained from bosses outscales merchant costs for basic ammo so much you can kill a basic side boss and buy several stacks of arrows and not worry about it for ages.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Normal arrows.
                >bleed
                >poison
                >scarlet rot
                >sleep
                >holy
                >fire
                >magic
                Are all in limited quantities, at least iirc. Also, bows have crap damage scaling and fast status application speed, you can piece it together.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >holy
                >fire
                >magic
                >poison (deadly)
                are all infinite

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough in that case, selling point of bows after shitting out status effects is being able to exploit elemental weaknesses and that's every major damage type besides lightning.
                You do still need to craft frost and bleed arrows though. They're pretty essential if you're using a bow as a primary weapon rather than a side-arm. imo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      crafting is OP. fire pots are good vs bosses weak to fire, holy pots are good vs bosses weak to holy. They are good even if you are an expert at the game and fighting the bosses epic style of dodge roll r1 dodge roll r1 over and over, when the boss creates distance, throw a pot, when you stance break the boss spam pots for huge damage. Or if you are shit at the game there are plenty of crafting items that let you cheese the bosses, like using sleep, poison, or frost.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I made a character based around crafting and bows recently so I can agree that some of the stuff you can make is pretty good, but here's the problem: Your resources are limited, getting more is boring, and there's a far more convenient magic/ash of war alternative to almost everything.
        Out of all my characters this one has felt the most redundant.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thats why you do it just as a bonus and not rely on it for all of your damage.

          ie im running from place to place and getting mushrooms and the fire butterflys as i go, not really changing my pathing much because its between me and where im going anyways. See a tree spirit so i craft 6 fire pots as im running towards it
          Open fight by throwing fire pot for 15% of its HP, dodge its attack and R2 it, keep hitting it until its stance is broken at like 40% hp, throw 3 fire pots for 15% hp each to finish it off before it gets back up. If you go for critical attack it would have done like 15-20% max and you have to wait for i-frames.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seems like a tight way to meta-game if you're min-maxing and don't want even a single point in FAI/INT I guess. A cool gimmick is all they are really.
            Bows on the other hand deserve to be a fully fleshed out play style by now.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Bows on the other hand deserve to be a fully fleshed out play style by now.
              I think ER is as good as they ever will be. Shortbows are already insanely good at dishing out sustained damage, statuses, and whiff/cast punishment - not to mention the insane damage & sniping capabilities the bigger bows can put out - without ever being in range of enemy attacks.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pure melee is a boring but effective way to beat elden ring. What I didn't like was the disappointment of 90% of loot being useless to me. Playing a hybrid paladin faith build is like christmas in comparison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >start wretch
      >get radagons sorseal
      >get strength talisman
      >put 7 points in strength
      >two hand grafted sword
      >use weapon art for +5 in every stat
      >you can now use every starter spell in the game and most basic buffs

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had a lot of fun with Faith spells. Especially Madness.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm currently playing pure Faith/Int with scaling weapons and the golden order and death stuff has been enjoyable, magic in this game is pretty varied. You just haven't found the spells you like yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going for the blackflame monk build, started as warrior class so going for the twinblade from atlus plateu to make the most of my high dex

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m at Maliketh what am I supposed to do? I have a carian straight sword +8. I’m lvl 92. My first playthrough blind. Should I just cast glintstone pebble on it? He keeps fucking my shit up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      parry that bitch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lvl 92
      Level up more, especially vigor. He's tough but has low hp himself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Level 92 is pretty low unless your stat spread is immaculate. How much Vigor do you have?
      Also he's a late game boss with a pretty irrelevant gimmick. Just learn his moves and dodge him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have 34 vigor
        24 mins
        15 endurance
        15 strength
        39 dex
        48 int
        7 faith
        9 arcane

        I’m using some talismans and armor that boost some of the skills. I don’t know if it’s good or not it’s just how I’ve leveled

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not bad at all, but that's definitely low HP, you may have noticed from dying fast. Just put points in to viggy from now on and you should be comfortable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            34 vig is extremely low if you're not a god gamer. 40 is the softcap, but by FA 60 is pretty normal. Especially since your end is also low so you're not wearing good armour either.

            I’m going to grind and explore for awhile

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did you do all the other stuff already? Like the volcano/undergrounds/haligtree/dragonbarrow? Those can all be explored before Maliketh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >haligtree
                be careful going there

                [...]
                I’m going to grind and explore for awhile

                , you can get lots of runes and good items but it's basically the same tier of dungeon as farum azula since it's late game and all. Also the boss, def don't fight the boss at the end of it until you're WAY higher.
                Volcano and underground are great places. Go to the carian manor too, if you missed that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          34 vig is extremely low if you're not a god gamer. 40 is the softcap, but by FA 60 is pretty normal. Especially since your end is also low so you're not wearing good armour either.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >34 vigor
          You wanna have 60 bud. Take some dex out. Carian Straight Sword leans a bit more str/int anyway. You should also be able to find the materials to take it to +10 if you're not intentionally staying at +8. Also take off soreseals/scarseals if you're using any, they're not worth the defense loss.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >34vig
          yeah there's your problem
          40 absolute minimum, 50 okay, 60 ideal if it can fit your build

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play launch patch, just get your Moonveil and Mimic and ez pz lmn sqz

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >level 92
      You're seriously underlevelled, go and explore for a while

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get your weapon to +9, level your vigor to 60 if you are you are reliant on melee attacks, stay close to him and try to strafe around him as much as you can.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      carian straight sword kinda fucking sucks, I think a magic long sword outscales it at this point (assuming you have high INT)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like every Somber weapon that doesn't have a unique Ash is like this

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the carian sword specifically has shit scaling and a bad moveset
          it's okay in the early-to-mid game because it has decently high base damage but it falls off really fucking hard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          somber weapons are almost always better AR wise than non somber yet people always say they think regular weapon equivalent does more AR. its so weird. Regular weapons typically are only better because you can put any ashe of war on it or put your own custom infusion like cold or poison. Cold infusion typically beats out somber after cold procs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao get on my level, I'm at Malina with a level 140 character dual wielding greatswords and she kills me every time with the same exact attack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Greatsword has 67 Guard Boost when fully upgraded. Just block the first part of waterfowl and dodge the rest. First part is the only hard part to avoid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You just need to time your rolls at the right moment. It's a pretty straight down fight.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only fun part of INT is weapon arts with specific weapons like virgil sword or the babby rattle

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magic isn't fun in Souls mainly because of the control scheme and design around how spells are equipped. It should've been designed to let you equip a staff with 4 spells that you can immediately access with R1, R2, L2+R1, L2+R2. With treating spells more like melee you could even have some spells that can combo into other spells.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spiral shard melts large bosses. its like putting them into a blender. its bretty fun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spiral shard
      why bother
      you either spam pebbles or you shoot a laser, simple as

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can't dodge while shooting the funny laser. and the pebble doesn't continually damage while travelling through the boss.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you can't dodge
          you don't need to dodge corpses.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't need to dodge corpses.
            *DaS2 ragdoll durability drain PTSD intensifies*

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              after beating it once i modded durability out of my dark souls 2 with no survivors or regrets

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How? You have way more options than a melee build. Its more straightforward to unga bunga, sure, but there are many bosses that ate shit faster with an Int build than any melee build could hope to achieve. Ive had tons of success on large bosses spamming that corkscrew spell, using the Carian Scepter's spinning weapon art, and ofc the Kamehameha Beam. My go-to all purpose spell was the Night Comet bc enemies never dodge it and it does good damage. Night Maiden's Mist was surprisingly good for the invisible bosses (if you didnt get the torch) and any fight with more than one enemy like triple golems. You just have to try shit out and expirement. I tried doing a pure Str run, and while its satisfying to hit stuff, it gets pretty boring pretty fast. Feels too one-dimensional.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    havent played since they released a patch where radahn got nerfed for no reason. did they fix shit or break shit other than the fact that RADAHN GOT NERFED FOR NO REASON

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they also nerfed crystilians into the ground and completely ruined them. They also nerfed godskins os you get free heals vs them too.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some of the spells in the game are fun as fuck to spam or abuse, and yes I'm talking about the KAMEHAMEHA, it literally never gets boring to use. I also like the magic shower spell, and the meteor of astel spell as well.

    You say it's tedious, but a select few spells in the game just completely melt boss HP or really any enemy in the game. Meteor of Astel is so broken, if you buff yourself and then cast it, you can just stand in one spot and rain death on the boss and watch it die in like 5-6 seconds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are a lot of interesting ways to break the game. My recent favourite is spamming endure and just out trading bosses with R2 spam. used a colossal weapon and stood still out trading a crucible knight. I was underleveled vs it if anything and i just ignored what it was doing. It was oddly satisfying.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started the game recently, just beat Godrick, and am trying to make a mage build, but so far there hasn't been a single int scaling weapon (besides staffs) in the entirety of Limgrave. I've dumped everything into pure int and mind, but it feels like most sorceries just aren't as useful or I've not found any fun ones. One of my slots is for imbuing my sword with magic, so I have at least one thing to scale with int, but so far the sorcery spells have felt quite lame as all of them are projectiles of some sort. Have I missed something, and where are any of the int weapons?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The area behind Stormveil Castle is entirely magic themed. You'll find plenty there.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, okay, maybe I spoke too soon then. I'm still exploring the area there.

        The first merchant sells a note that gives a hint to where the first magic merchant in the game is. There is a magic spellbook in limgrave too.
        magic stuff is just north of agheel lake

        i meant east

        Already bought everything she has, including two scrolls for more items. Besides the weapon/shield imbuing, the spells I have are all just flimsy single shot projectiles, and so I've relegated myself to the arc shot, phalanx, and imbuing my weapon with magic. Not sure about the magic spellbook though, I'll have to keep looking for that if it's something I've missed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first merchant sells a note that gives a hint to where the first magic merchant in the game is. There is a magic spellbook in limgrave too.
      magic stuff is just north of agheel lake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i meant east

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's a beach in southern limgrave where a alabaster noble dwells and if you kill him he gives you an ash of war that you can slot onto your weapon to give it magic damage and int scaling, can easily do this right after creating your character, he's not really hidden or anything either

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything other than a STR big hammer bonker build is just busy work. You can oneshot half the enemies in the game, the rest you stagger. Bosses take huge damage and also occasionally stagger, and most of the time they can't even stagger you back.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to bonk things!
    I got you covered
    >i want to use heavy attacks or spells without being interrupted
    I got you covered
    >I want to use a wide variety of spells without investing stats for it
    I got you covered
    >i want to two hand tank stuff and even two hand block stuff
    I got you covered
    >i want 40 levels worth of stats and inherent defensive bonuses
    I got you covered

    Best sword in the game coming through.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >made new character last night
    >rush roundtable and kill Mad Tongue Alberich at level 8 by spinning a basic unupgraded flail
    >rush trapped chest at southern Weeping Peninsula tower
    >Taunter Tongue invader to raise elevator for me
    >stealth backwards through Leyndell
    >grab Bolt of Grandsex
    >flail go brrrr on Greyoll
    >no quests broken
    >new game file with Grandsex whole way through
    It's different. Definitely feel the weapon is overrated, but at least it's something fun for early and mid game.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >haven't done any grinding, just exploring and clearing the map, and getting runes from some of runs back to get my runes when I die
    >have lost well over 100k runes to dying before getting them back
    >just about to the forge of the giants, level 133 (no remembrances used on runes)
    And to think I was going to try and grind back when I was in Stormveil, how laughable.
    >only 25 vig and 25 end
    >used manly med weight or naked light weight for the longest time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Progression curve in the game has been so fucked for me since I learned the exploit to 130k runes every 3 minutes in Mohg's area after doing Varre's quest as soon as you kill Godrick.
      Every run I do now gets 60 vig and whatever main stat I use to soft cap as soon as I enter Liurnia.
      It shatters any sense of progression after that, but makes the game so much more enjoyable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All this cheating is making my game unfun 🙁
        Why not just stop exploiting anon? Of course it's breaking any sense of natural progression lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can you stop sucking cock for just 5 minutes?
          My entire post was acknowledging that I'm exploiting the game, but that I enjoy the benefit over the cons.
          Your need to speak up at literally every fucking thing makes you one insufferable cunt with a learning disability.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They patched that. There's an invisible wall now on the ledge you need to jump to.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's faster places than the one you're thinking of.
          There are 3 more off the top of my head, one is even used to insta kill Mohg after triggering the fight the first time.

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