>"have you tried not playing DnD?". >try to not play DnD

>"have you tried not playing DnD?"
>try to not play DnD
>"ok I wanna try out X RPG that isn't DnD"
>can't find anyone that runs it
>the ones that do are either paid games or shit GM's
>"lol why don't you try running a game instead?"
>try's it but is bad at it since never had experience playing the game
>players leave game
>goes back to DnD since it's more popular
>just finds a game that is at least decent

soo how am I supposed to not play DnD if other games aren't popular enough to even see game ads about them? let alone paid ones

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Acquire friends and a regular playgroup instead of relying on randos and pickup games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but none of my friends are interested in ttrpgs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Introduce a TTRPG they might actually be interested in(CoC for the lovecraft fans, WoD for the goths, etc), or just make more friends to play with.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then kill and replace them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got mine through the door by running CoC at Halloween.

        I made a bunch of characters and ran it like a horror movie.
        This Christmas I'm going to run paranoia as we all share that sense of humour.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >He fell for the meme

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its not a meme. I havent played D&D in over 5 years. Traveller, DCC, retro-inspired games, mothership, CoC, WoD, DH, BitD, homebrew shit. Literally anything else. 5e never again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Years and years ago, you might have been able to pass off that lie and not just be immediately called out on "You're aggressively assuming they don't have any experience with other games, acting condescending, and then offering no meaningful advice like suggesting an alternative system, but just telling them to not play the game." Maybe, but not likely.

        Now, with the stigma associated with the phrase thanks to trolls spamming it nonstop, it's basically impossible to argue that. Hell, you can even go out of your way to write a post with lots of advice you genuinely consider good like listing alternate systems and why they'd be better for a specific task, and then just torpedo your entire post by asking "Have you tried not playing D&D?" and basically asking the person to treat you like an pretentious and elitist gay at best, but more likely just as a meme-forcing troll.

        There's dozens of threads dedicated to other games on this very board. No one who comes here is ignorant to the idea of other systems existing. Even if it was possible to say it earnestly, it would still be a dumb cunt move, even without the forced meme stigma.

        Telling people to try other games can be good advice. But pretending "Have you tried not playing D&D?" could be seen by anyone as wholesome help is like asking people to treat "Don't have one in the first place" as advice to someone asking for the best shampoo for their baby.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Don't have one in the first place" is in fact the best possible advice.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I play D&D. In one of my four weekly games.

      The other three are: rotating (currently a Castlevania hack but maybe Shadowrun hack soon), rotating (currently Lancer), and Star Wars.

      You can play whatever you want, honestly. You just need to put in the effort to build a long term group that is willing to play your gonzo games.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make friends anon

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing something
    Where do you think you are?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You lack skill
    And unless you were like trying to do GURPS or HERO or some other very crunchy game, there should have been no reason for your failure
    Literally, pick up a game lighter than 5e at first, many exist
    Then after playing it a few times with your new squad of players, (who if you are not a failure of a human being will be willing to play anything given the slightest bit of coaching) start slowly working your way up to more powerful and masculine games.

    It's easy. Impossible for most people here though, since they are autists who can't talk to people and just wanna theorize about rules and lore and coom.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well light games tend to suck or have a weird dice system most the times soo

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have you tried not playing DnD?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DnD is crunchier than the average game, even ignoring complete rules lite systems most modern rpgs have moved towards a level of simplicity that dnd doesnt have in either, or both, character creation and gameplay.
        Basically,

        have you tried not playing DnD?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine the seethe deep down from those who say "have you tried not playing DnD?" about how they wish so much for others to play their unpopular systems

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and shittier unpopular systems that cost 20-40 eurs or some shit

      haha good luck getting fucking new players on board

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he buys things
        Pathetic. I can't imagine being so weak-willed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and shittier unpopular systems that cost 20-40 eurs or some shit

      haha good luck getting fucking new players on board

      >they're angry because they want me to play THEIR system!
      >they can't be angry because of my spam, like they said, that's impossible.
      I can't believe how much you are seething over people not liking your shit thread spam.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rules-light systems are great!... For one-shots.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And campaigns.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Join online games. There are so many hundreds of people running other games besides DnD if you just look hard enough.

    Unironiclaly the reddid r/lfg discord is a pretty good place to pick up games. As it /tg/'s gamefinder discord, if you're okay playing with other autists

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh well im in that al right it helps

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They really need to hurry up and make a DM AI. It really wouldn't be that difficult or require much. Fucking hell, they designed a DM system in the 80s that just required constant D100 rolls and a reference book

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's basically what solo oracles like Mythic are. I've been using one to run a Symbaroum game with an irl and it's been a lot of fun, but it still asks a bit of the person doing the table management to ""run"" things which is kinda stressful

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ... or you could just go back to playing vidya, you friendless gay

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some real projection going on here, what's up big guy?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I play RPGs to not be alone all the time anon

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1). You never tried any of that
    2). If you can't make friends who will play and have fun together, then you're already doomed.

    Its my understanding zoomers are so starved for anything resembling friends that they will go and watch strangers play video games or play TTRPGs together in order to have surrogate digital friends. So my advice is to start with that issue before tackling something requiring social skills, like actually playing an RPG

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this retard schizo af lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This indicates that he was 100% correct about you in every way.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how you D&D players manage to get into so very MANY games without finding, like, a consistent group of people you like who you can convince to go play another game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      adventurers league.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread which critique trying not playing DnD
    >try to play DnD
    >"ok I wanna try out 5E"
    >can't find anyone that runs it
    >the ones that do are either pink haired lesbians or capeshit fan GMs
    >"lol why don't you try running a game instead?"
    >try's it but is bad at it since never had experience playing the game
    >players talking about their furry PCs
    >goes back to Warhammer and other d100 games since these are more popular

    To be fair I finally played a few mega dungeon sessions with a cool people, and it was one of the coolest OSR-like experiences. Except OSR, I have never played DnD before.

    It is not a DnD problem or 5E, this retarded fandom is the problem. WotC make products tailored to them because they are consumerists and spend a lot of money on products, merch and stuff, but they don't play games and then Wizards have to patch the system to make it playable. I'm just guessing, I'm still don't know how to play it

    t. WFRP player and GM and recently Nu-SR and OSR GM, fan of YZE

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its not a meme. I havent played D&D in over 5 years. Traveller, DCC, retro-inspired games, mothership, CoC, WoD, DH, BitD, homebrew shit. Literally anything else. 5e never again.

      Never tried Traveller
      DCC?
      which retro-inspired games?
      Mothership is great but books are poorly designed - I don't know how to say that,, it's just pain in the ass to use it
      Call of Cthulhu is not so great. At least, to emulate cosmic horror and skills are too detailed
      WoD? DH?
      I heard a lot of good about Blades but weird people playing this

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DCC?
        Dungeon Crawl Classics
        >which retro-inspired games?
        the OSR movement
        >Mothership is great but books are poorly designed - I don't know how to say that,, it's just pain in the ass to use it
        eh
        >Call of Cthulhu is not so great. At least, to emulate cosmic horror
        How so? Ive found it ifne, sanity can be a bit finicky but what really makes cosmic horror work is the themes you bring into the game, the system just helps support horror as a whole.
        >and skills are too detailed
        you have brain rot, the skills are very broad yet still allow niches.
        >WoD? DH?
        World of Darkness and Dark Heresy
        >I heard a lot of good about Blades but weird people playing this
        then just play with your own group, you do have a playgroup, don't you?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Dungeon Crawl Classics
          thx, it has nice charts with failures and crits, as I remember correctly
          >the OSR movement
          I felt in love in OSR but there is a lot of cash grab products and systems and I need physical copies in my hands
          >How so? Ive found it ifne, sanity can be a bit finicky but what really makes cosmic horror work is the themes you bring into the game, the system just helps support horror as a whole.
          Just Cthulhu Dark is better imo, and I needed house ruled sanity system. Also, every longer campaign/playing loses its horror vibe and is more and more pulp. Maybe it is specific for my group, maybe I am terrible GM and player. And many official adventures are not so great
          >you have brain rot, the skills are very broad yet still allow niches.
          cryptography and math as two separate skills. dancing... But I like BRP in general, it is intuitive and simple system, and CoC is one of my favourite games. And I like that there are three separate skills for social interactions.
          >World of Darkness and Dark Heresy
          I know WoD only from video game and unfortunately never played Dark Heresy. For some reason I missed a hype on these two games. I heard that official scenarios to DH weren't so good
          >then just play with your own group, you do have a playgroup, don't you?
          I have 3. One for wfrp 2e/Warlock! (I copied skills from TDE and some BRP fantasy game, original ones are terrible and after small campaign I see Warlock! more like inspiration, I'm gonna try to play wh on some BRP fantasy mechanic or YZE). Second to play OSR games in fantasy New World, before that Forbidden Lands in Gothic universe. Third to play everything except fantasy and I'm mostly a player.
          I just like testing new things or modules outside my groups and then play as a GM with them. :V

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I felt in love in OSR but there is a lot of cash grab products and systems and I need physical copies in my hands
            Print a copy of b/x, put it in a 3 ring binder. Or any of the other rulebooks. Download them first, see if you want a hard copy, get a hard copy.
            Printing out modules and tables is easy, or just making your own.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Anon is having argument with voices in his head
    But I must admit - spot on image pick for going full schizo

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to get others into games you're interested in, you need to do the leg work

    Learn the rules, watch others play, read into advice from other people, ect. There's more than enough information floating around out there on just about any system.

    Run a few small games first to learn the rules, don't dive into a long campaign right away, just small ones that maybe last a month or two to get your feet wet.

    Players are more inclined to try games that the person running them knows how to play and can teach them to play, as well as smaller, less commitment heavy lengths of time.

    Your first few sessions are going to be shit, and you're going to need to reference the rules often and stumble about, but just do it, gay. You'll be good at whatever game you want to run eventually

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, playing with randos online is poison.
    You kinda need to find a group of friends or at least people you know okay enough.
    First couple of games you run are always gonna be shit, randos won't have the tolerance for that because they don't have a connection with you and thus no reason to stick around.
    Friends are way more likely to stick around.
    If you don't have friends, go seek out a friendly local game store and make some.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sucks at running the game
    >This is the game's fault

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have actual friends and play with them

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How did you play D&D at first if you didn't have any experience playing it?
    If you had an experienced DM, where did they learn it from?
    It seems you want to skip the learning curve where you and your group adapt to a new playstyle. Plenty of groups play stuff for the first time with no experience, including D&D. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >try's it but is bad at it
    filtered

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just one guy spamming the same meme
    D&D is basically the only game in town.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>"lol why don't you try running a game instead?"
    >>try's it but is bad at it since never had experience playing the game
    Then keep doing it until you get good at it. You don't need prior system experience to play the system, just reading comprehension and a dream.
    t. first ttrpg experience was DMing dark heresy

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trying different systems made me realize that the problem isn't D&D, it's me.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make some imageniry friend loser

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >suggest to ex-D&D party to play GURPS
    >very easy learning curve
    >session 1
    >bunch of hobos in urban city larping knights and sorcerers
    >party RP more than roll d6s
    >party has more fun than with 5e
    >have fun GMing with easy ttrpg system

    I think TTRPGS need more 'baby's first' under 60 pages games where there's less rolling and more having fun as a group.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/346742/Prowlers--Paragons-Ultimate-Edition

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think TTRPGS need more 'baby's first' under 60 pages games where there's less rolling and more having fun as a group.
      You think the hobby needs more PbtA?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pbta rule books are an extreme example given that they are so rules lite that their rules are less than 10 pages. That being said, yes. More people have at least tried pbta and hated it than people who have tried a different and more obscure game system overall.

          I tend to agree. It's just an unusual sentiment on /tg/ which tends to hate games that are accessible and good.

          Yes. I learned Legends of the Wulin and i simply do not fucking care about all the lore dumps and flavor. What a horrible system to learn, makes me mad

          That sucks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pbta rule books are an extreme example given that they are so rules lite that their rules are less than 10 pages. That being said, yes. More people have at least tried pbta and hated it than people who have tried a different and more obscure game system overall.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. I learned Legends of the Wulin and i simply do not fucking care about all the lore dumps and flavor. What a horrible system to learn, makes me mad

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    skill issue

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't find a game of CoC, Savage Worlds, one of the FFG 40k games, or hell even an OSR game online, you aren't looking.
    Also
    >paying for books
    >shit at being a gm so the game is bad
    lol, lmao

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been searching for a PF2 group for a while now. You'd think it'd be easier to find players, since it's basically 5e, but it isn't. Most others aren't RPGs but shitty story games. And most other RPGs just don't have enough players be it online or IRL. Or when I find some it's grognards or unironic hipsters that think hating something popular is a personality. At least with 5e I can find people who aren't total retards to play with. They may be normies, but better normal people who have fun than all of us here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The games you think are bad are better than the games you like.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >try not playing dnd
    >every other game manages to somehow be more pozzed and retarded than wotc dnd

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What do u play?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Prowlers and Paragons.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >try's it but is bad at it since never had experience playing the game
    How the hell do you think people did back then ?
    You don't need to feel "the EX PE RI EN CE" for it to be good.
    The problem ain't the game but that YOU don't know how to roleplay anything past your own sphere of confidence.
    If you cannot run a game with a single d6, piece of papers and pencils then you suck and you need a wheelchair fucker to babysit you through everything.
    At this point just go read some theatre pieces, maybe you'll get some skills.
    Antigone is a good starting point.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get good friends or look online, that's how I've played well over 3 dozen different systems and multiple long lasting campaigns in Saud systems, that is why I have only played DnD thrice in my life

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So just start a different game with some new players yourself, FFS. How do you think D&D became popular - by people playing it for the first time together. Why do you fuckers only want to do activities that others are already doing. What ever happened to people starting activities and communities by being the one to start it themselves. This entire planet is full of mindless followers.

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