I'm not talking about the black levels to start with. I am talking of the BLB.
I keep my monitors at like 75% brightness and I tried taking a picture that terrible before WITH SUNLIGHT STREAMING ON THEM when I got them for the memes and it just looked black. Closest I could get was standing like 12 feet back and zooming in 400% but you still couldn't see anything along the edges, it was just all super dull grayish looking at that point.
The images retards who here are clearly some super cheap shitty piece of garbage someone else took meaning you don't know how they actually got it to look that bad that you're using as an example to pretend you know what you're talking about. You don't.
it's the uniformity that counts
also as soon there is anything bright on screen your eyes will adjust and it looks black enough
tryhard pure black is for loosers with no rbg ambiance light
Since all the major manufacturers begin to use Oled screens and the narrative started shifting from "le guaranteed burn in in 1 month" the anti Oled trolls are now trolling the Led users.
I personally hate both because it results in anecdotal evidence from both sides and there is barely any trusted info out there.
There is nothing anecdotal about OLED's burn-in, it is a scientific fact that there will be uneven pixel wear due to the relatively low lifespan of the organic material used, which forces manufacturers to use compromises such as aggressive ABL, pixel shifting, and aging the entire panel to patch the overused pixels.
The anecdotal is the time it takes to wear down. Otherwise anons wouldn't post the same ten pictures about torture tests for years now. Oled threads just a year ago claimed these screens will become unusable in just a few months, then as the technology spread it turned into 6 months and a few years. Now it became a vague "short" and "low lifespan" because the critics never seen or used an oled screen. Everybody loves to post the CNN test screens from RTING but nobody posts the Call of Duty 9000 hours screen which as good as new. This is why you can't find accurate information about the subject anywhere. Oledfags always shrug off any serious concern while burn in fags make it obvious they only get their info from shitposts. The only thing you know is the manufacturers selling these as dedicated gaming screens now and there aren't any backlash anywhere despite Oled became extremely popular since 2020.
When I bought my Oled screen 2 years ago (for dedicated video game usage) someone promised it won't last 6 months. Since it is still in pristine condition I'm very skeptical about similar comments now.
get your fucking eyes checked if shilling for a superior monitor technology is bad. None of you understand how the crystaline structure actually guarantees garbage screens. And that's not even talking about the horrifying backlight situation that is still garbage in 2023. Microled isn't around the corner anytime soon for below 50 inch or whatever lg/samsung has in the pipeline. Samshit said they would be using anode/cathod tech for quantum dot based displays but lol. FED/SED were the superior product and you all sucked the gamer cock like the gullible homosexuals you all are.
they're not shilling here per se, that's what their channel is for. No... their posts here are entirely pro bono because they just want to gush even more about how great nvidia and dlss is
>caring about muh pixels
i have a 49 inch superultrawide Asus monitor with a 3840x1080 resolution and i will probably never need to get anything better than this.
i care more about what i hear in games, than what i see.
my friend is an OLED fanatic, he talks about it non stop like a homosexual. >omg omg omg look how it looks like >i dont see a difference >HOW DARE YOU *shits himself for an hour*
I definitely see a difference between my very expensive IPS monitor and my OLED telly, but it really isn't that huge.
I tend to do everything with the lights on though. If I was in a darkened room all the time I'd probably appreciate the OLED a lot more.
>>i have a 49 inch superultrawide Asus monitor with a 3840x1080 resolution and i will probably never need to get anything better than this.
Why did you buy half a monitor? Are you a chink or something, are your eyes so squinty that you worry about having any vertical space?
Only thing on OLED that I can see is when movies/games are letter boxed (garbage) the OLED makes the letter boxing literally disappear since those pixels turn off. Otherwise yeah its retarded.
QLED, it's basically the in-between step of LCD and OLED
I know, I have the same monitor and I've been trying to work its features, its HDR on W10 is functionally useless
It isn't nearly as bad these days, but then retards talk about it like "yeah bro just autohide your toolbar, use a special screensaver, only have a black background, and by the time your browser toolbar starts to burn in, youll be ready for a new monitor anyway"
Maybe in a few years when OLEDs arent $500-700 more than a good IPS
if you are a retard then yes
most of you static content should be done on 2nd LCD monitor while your main OLED monitor should only be used for full screen media and gaming
Having a 2nd monitor that sits there doing nothing the majority of the time is pretty ridiculous. Advances have been made in the tech to improve the durability and manufacturers are starting to push OLED a lot harder now, so it seems like the intent is to make them durable enough for general use and mainstream.
QDOLED like in ops pic are still know to easily burn in though rtings even tested them.
LG's WOLED tech seems to have figured out the issue but Samsung is still lagging behind in burn in prevention.
I will still recommend waiting until PHOLED becomes comes to market which will be even better at burn in prevention but that tech is still a year or two out
Then don't sell them as computer monitors, retard.
Why the fuck should I have to adapt the way I use my computer instead of a company making a monitor that actually does what it's supposed to?
I've had burn-in on 2 LCDs, an old phone and an IPS monitor that was 12 years old. Now my OLED phone is showing it on the notification bar after 4 years.
My plasma TV is about 10 years old, has no burn-in whatsoever despite people warning about burn-in much like OLED TVs (it's guaranteed).
The burn-in is always from very static images, like web browser or taskbar/notification bars after many, many, many hundreds of hours of the same exact image.
By the time you get burn-in, the device is old enough that the honeymoon period is well passed and you won't care. You can still use it, usually it's not noticeable under general use. Or buy something new at this point.
Point is, it's not gonna happen right away. I've seen people accept brand new TVs with what's known as dirty screen effect, which is exactly what it sounds like, and is very noticeable on light coloured screens.
This is considered acceptable and some companies won't RMA (I know from experience). It looks much worse and is always very visible from the factory. Yet people seemingly don't notice or care. Most TVs had this to an extent I'm the past, not sure now. But no-one ever cared because they hadn't heard of that specific buzzword, unlike burn-in.
Yes. OLED would be perfect if there was no burn-in. Insane motion clarity, insane color depth and range. I would've snapped up an LG 27GR95QE in a heartbeat. But I cannot justify spending a premium on monitor tech that gets "worn down" over time, even if you take every measure to slow down burn-in.
It's not a matter of "if it experiences burn-in" - it's a matter of "when."
>use monitor has hard as possible, ensuring burn in within 3 years >try to claim warranty >"oh im sorry sir, see, your usage patterns and total hours has voided your warranty due to some technicality in our TOS
I guarantee it will be something like that
Feel free to prove me wrong, though.
Not really, any oled display nowadays has a bunch of mitigation measures built in. You could use them just like a regular display.
The only things you might want to set on your pc are autohide taskbar and this mystical thing called a screensaver.
It’s to new for a monitor. I got a TV for the house but as a monitor the price can’t be justified yet. By the time monitors are fairly priced it will be in to the next advancement
game devs and movie directors make everything so you see those details, in theaters and in video games, real life matters shit and you just showed how much of a retarded redditor you are
Every time I consider dropping absurd amounts of money on an OLED I just remind myself that my IPS monitor's image quality doesn't matter to me when I'm actually immersed and enjoying a game. Nor does it being only 1440p and not 4k. Good audio is way more important. All this OCD bullshit is just for jaded people that don't actually enjoy video games. They just want to gawk at how pretty the graphics look on their shiny new 4k oled screen and then just close the game.
All i see is 3 blacks. Theres absolutely no difference here
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are fucking blind, the ips is the glow in the dark nagger like you. Fucking people can't even tell when their backlight is on now a days are so low iq it's embarrasing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>for just 1000bucks you can have black screens
thanks but my 10bucks shades work just as fine
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
this is what looking at an LCD feels like after using an OLED for months
*Saves You 500 Bucks to buy better Nvidia GPU*
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he thinks turning down the brightness in-game will eliminate IPS glow
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I got used of IPS glow since late 2000s since Every device uses them
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
retard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just Calibrate anon, it only takes 30 minutes to a hour to do so
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>needing to calibrate to 160nits brightness so his backlight bleed is 35% less noticeable
holy fuck that is some cuck shit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Beats spending $1000 for experimental hardware that will goes down to $100 in 5 years
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
my LGC2 42" was like $500
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats a TV not a Monitor
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
still beats any lcd monitor on the market in all regards other than refresh rate
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Try to use it other than gaming for extended period of time. TV is not a cheaper replacement for Monitor
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
My dad tried to make me use an old 32" 720p tv as a monitor. All I could say was it looked absolutely disgusting
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>VA has visible BL while the IPS doesn't
lol
anyway all will be black in common light conditions, while only one will have the RTings logo burnt in mysteriously
I get you, but once again: doesn't matter to me when I'm enjoying a game. Don't even notice it. The only time I start looking for imperfections, autistically tweaking graphics options and thinking that buying a 4090 will bring "the magic back" is when I'm bored with a game. Amnesia: The Bunker is a very dark looking game and I barely even noticed how shit and washed out it probably looked on my old ass IPS screen. You know why? Because I was too busy shitting my pants.
you won't notice a big difference in bright areas in game true but in dark scenes it is a night and day difference, IPS glow looks horrible compared to the perfect blacks you would get with an OLED.
yes, I know. did you even read my post? I know what oled looks like since a friend of mine bought a massive OLED TV for his PS5. and it looks absolutely amazing, I'll give you that. but I would absolutely ruin that shit if I hooked it up to a computer. that shit would have the windows task bar burned into it in a year. the tech is just not there yet. I'm not dropping 2k on a prototype.
they all have major issues right now: excessive dimming, anti-glare coatings, weak peak brightness, poor software control
i'm not against them cus the one on my laptop looks incredible with 0 issues, but there hasn't been that 'one' gaming monitor that ticks all the boxes yet, best to keep waiting
I own this monitor for like 6 months and have no regrets, really made gaming more immersive.
Just be aware if your eyesight is slightly off you will see a small red-underline on all text and objects. I only seen this after a heavy night of drinking. If you search online you will see a lot of people having this problem but they are just not aware that there eyes are fucked.
I turned of the pixel refresh pop-up that comes every 4 hours, it will now only refresh when I am away from the screen, you can cancel it by just moving your mouse.
Some people look at UW as two small 1080p/1440p monitors but without the bezel.
Others look at it as a cut down half the height 4k
The people who see it as a cut down 4k think you're a fucking retard for paying more for half.
Hey, anon, just a heads up, but the 34gp83a-b is nearly identical to that one, but it will be $640 on Black Friday. Don’t know why LG released two monitors that are that similar, but the performance is virtually the same.
mini led will eventually be on par with oled imo when they increase the dimming zones to like over 2,000
LED will have a resurgence when that happens, at that point they will pretty much be almost identical to OLED while also being able to get super bright and zero risk of burn in.
I really hope microled in the long run is more affordable and reliable than oled since they won't be using organic materials.
hopefully in the 2030's they will start mass producing them the same way lcd's are mass produced on the cheap today.
OLEDs are blurry as fuck and have a short lifespan.
Until panel makers invent a panel type with as good motion clarity as CRT, I’m good with my LED monitor.
The later -B variant has better colors and is 180hz but i have two of these too. I prefer them over oled. I've bought 3 different $1000 oled panels and returned each one since their brightness is ass, hdr is gimped, and the subpixel text layout is unreadable. Also fuck ultrawide.
I've got a curved Samsung 27 inch monitor that I picked up two or three years ago. Also got a 50-inch Sony 4K tv hooked up as a second monitor that I use for media and Youtube. I know there's probably better ways of setting things up, and I wouldn't mind a proper second monitor for a few things, but honestly, my setup is about as good as I could get it.
I bought a LG C3 TV. It's nice but I only use it if there's any show/movie worth torrenting or when I feel like couch gaming. Otherwise it's off and I sit at my PC mostly where my monitor is a TN panel. I can afford to buy a new monitor but I kind of don't like buying new shit unless I need it, my current monitor despite being 6 years old has no issues. The new TV I bought this year. I needed to replace my old LCD TV because it had backlight bleeding out the arse that was getting worse and worse and more noticeable even on colourful scenes instead of black scenes. I've never tried a curved monitor before.
can i buy 4k 120+ hz oled that won't burn in in at least 3 years and costs no more than $300? if not then fuck off with your consoomer shit i'll just use whatever i have
my understanding of OLED is just that individual led's can shut off so they become a "true black" instead of being a lit-up black. Why don't regular LED monitors do this and then they'll have OLED's killer feature without the burn in?
OLED looks flat out better, as if the picture is being displayed as intended by the creator. For game I’m not sure but for TV viewing, you can clearly see the quality difference especially when directly compared side by side. There really isn’t anyone who would say otherwise if they saw it
The actual term is self emissive, as in the light is coming from the pixels themselves. microled is a non organic material which is why their touted as a step up since they can do oled but on steroids but without the claimed bad life expectancy.
the answer to your question is microled and it's an extremely expensive prototype tech. conventional led is a marketing term, it's the same backlight that's always on going through lcd filters.
Waiting for lg oled with dynamic hz mode 480hz/1080p 240hz/2160p otherwise not much reason to get one yet when there's no substantial reason to buy one over the TV.
Because shit is all flawed and one technology is just trying to cover the flaws of the other, while bringing new flaws. All this started because CRT had the biggest flaw of them all for normalfags, being too big. CRT still beats most modern display techs in color reproduction, motion clarity, etc.
Man, I wish they kept CRTs for a bit longer as an enthusiast technology or something like that, imagine what they could have done. CRTs basically entirely analog, most of them had no digital electronics at all, not a single microchip, it's basically signal in, signal out. Only later CRT TVs got stuff like awful upscalers.
yeah people need to understand that plugging in a new monitor to windows requires checking windows display settings and nvidia control panel if you hope to get vrr working
The human eye is incapable of transmitting more than 24 frames per second data to your brain so no, all of it is nonsense and 30 fps is more than enough. Everything else is marketing shill cope.
i want a 34inch 1440p ultrawide 144hz+, what's the best monitor i can get without having to do autistic shit like hiding my task bar and running pixel refreshes incase i have the temerity to actually do monitor shit on my monitor?
it does pixel refresh on its own but you might want a setup where you have risky content on an lcd monitor and use the oled for gaming and video content
i'm not getting two monitors. whole point of getting an UW is that i'm done with that shit. i'm definitely not getting an ultrawide and a seperate monitor just for work.
Dont get an ultrawide oled then.
Theres oled burn in measures that you have to live with it if you get one and dont want to buy a new one in couple years.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
this was my first post
i want a 34inch 1440p ultrawide 144hz+, what's the best monitor i can get without having to do autistic shit like hiding my task bar and running pixel refreshes incase i have the temerity to actually do monitor shit on my monitor?
i want something that looks as good as it can without having to do autistic shit. what are my options? is this any good https://www.viewsonic.com/global/products/lcd/XG341C-2K
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you want something that looks good then don't get an lcd
>It's not going to burn in within 2 years unless you're retarded.
every single oled buyer thought that before it burnt in
Source: I made it up
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
miniled is horrible garbage compared to oled
Like its tolerable for tv when watching some movies but then you go do hdr gaming and the minileds have to be turned off when in desktop using sdr, the backlight lags behind the mouse and doesnt look good with harsh contrast edges in desktop
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
alright, so what do you recommend then? i'm not getting an OLED and dealing with all the burn in management shite that goes with that since i'll be using it for work aswell. i do graphic animation/visuals and everyone is using wide canvases these days so i need an UW and something capable of high refresh rates, and it'll be my main desktop monitor so want to gayme on it aswell.
don't just tell me everything sucks.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay well you're getting some ips work monitor, maybe 4k so it looks crisp and text is optimal
The oled is simply a much better experience for media.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not going to burn in within 2 years unless you're retarded. The alienware ultrawides have a 3 year burn in warranty
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's not going to burn in within 2 years unless you're retarded.
every single oled buyer thought that before it burnt in
if you're not on a $2000 computer you're not dealing with 4K, now go sit down you entitled whoreson
>NOO YOU CANT RUN AT 4K didnt you see the benchmarks of cyberpunk ultra raytraced pathtracing?!?!?!?
just play good games instead which run at 4k120 on a midrange card
I know you’re probably joking, but even if the resolution technically existed in 2009, I can’t imagine anyone was able to game at it. The gtx 280 and 295 struggled to hit more than 30 frames at 1080p in Crysis.
My work computer is OLED and I constantly get burn-in since I WFH and usually leave it on a screen for 4 hours while playing video games.
I tend to leave my PC on overnight so I don't want to deal with burn in.
my PC display shows firefox frame through 70% of use time, i'm not buying anything that burns in. I own OLED TV for vidya/watching, and ordinary display for ordinary display purposes.
>bought a 165 hz monitor on a whim on BF >start using it >realize that it is VA
man I haven't been burned like this for a while.
The ghosting was HURRENDOUS
At least I returned it and got a voucher. Is ASUS VG249Q1A good enough for budget gaming?
Let me stop you right there anon.
I bought a VG249Q3A and had to send it back because the vignetting (darkness around the edges) was so bad. Not to mention the stand sucked and the whole thing felt like cheap plastic. If you want good 1080p 24" IPS, I recommend the BenQ MOBIUZ EX240. It's not a well-known brand but the monitors I got are good shit for the price, I can promise you.
sorry anon but I already bought since nobody replied after 7 hours. I'll look into it but I'm pretty sure the store will be cross with me after returning a monitor for the 2nd time. Oh well, thanks for the attempt.
Nothing but capitalist slop is being released today. FPS games are now controller aimbot wars. There's no reason to invest in hardware for video games anymore.
I have one, LG 44,5" ultra wide, 240hz
I've used it for 1000h and can't tell if it's good or not, lots of trade in because of the ultra wide and anxiety because of the oled.
I do, got the G9 OLED for about $850 new a couple of weeks back when Samsung was just giving out those discount codes. Way too good of a deal to pass up. Looks fucking insane and I only really play PC games, never minded messing with games to get them to work with weird aspect ratios (I "suffered" with 16:10, 21:9). Definitely can't recommend to someone that needs every game to just work out of the box and have it be flawless but that's because of the 32:9 aspect ratio.
Burn-in fear is obvious reddit FUD, even if this thing does burn in years from now, I'll be ready for something new anyway. That would probably be something like the 57" Odyssey Neo G9 in OLED at something stupid like 500hz.
Most OLED panels have retarded energy saving methods hard wired inside, I have to touch a button on the remote control every 4 hours or it powers off on its own no matter what is happening.
You need to stop going off of retarded reddit comments and look at actual tests, modern OLEDs need to display the same image with pixel shift off for literal months straight before anything starts to show up. Check rting's longevity test.
Even for total retards that can afford to waste electricity like that, there's pixel shift and all sorts of bult-in protections to prevent anything from happening.
So they're totally unsuitable for computing, got it. You know I leave the same windows up on my monitor for 12+ hours a day, right? Best case, they won't burn in for 6 whole months, wow.
No thanks, I'm not retarded. Won't be throwing out my current monitor for at least a decade, probably much longer given how little tech has advanced recently.
I will not touch OLED until someone makes a matte one, don't care who else wants it, I do. ASUS promised twice then never put it to market, so someone else better.
Just got one for my birthday actually after my old 1440x900 18 inch's 10 years of service.
Gotta say I didn't think much of curved monitors. Thought it was one of those "unnececary things" that only gamers that buy overtly powerful pc parts buy to flex.
27 inches, 1080p tho, Can't believed how long I missed out. As for why I finally switched, well my old monitor wasn't really broken at all, and still works fine, if out of date with the VGA. Plus the new PC I got didn't do VGA so I had to go with HDMI.
Still, love the hell out of this new monitor and PC. It's a Cyberpower Prebuilt but a damned good one.
This is the specific one I got. Everything inside was neat and tidy, set up was a breeze. Only issue was my Trendnet wireless adapter didn't want to work on it. Ended up using the integrated wireless (which is actually pretty good for one so I'm told).
I mean I can play modern vidya at silky smooth FPS and looking very pretty so that's all that matters (Tested with Cyberpunk 2077 naturally).
I am absolutely getting an OLED monitor this fall but it’s hilarious to me that 99% of fud/consumer fear is based around burn in when that’s actually a solved problem with newer implementations.
The REAL risk is DEAD PIXELS >dead pixels~ >dead pixels >dead pixels~~ >dead pixels >dead pixels~ >dead pixels
LOOK IT UP. ITS A REAL PROBLEM
Are there any good 4k144hz hdr monitors that are 40 something inch? Using the neo g7 which is nice and all but I don't like the curve and 32 is still too small. Especially coming from what I used to have before which was a 55 inch tv.
I get that pure black is tempting and if you have the funds to replace your screen every 2 years go for it.
But think about it, 99.9 of all content isn't just a black screen. Most things have stuff showing that isn't black.
Do you REALLY need pure black just for the bars on the edges of the screen when watching ultra wide or 4:3 stuff? Mini LED will do the job.
I’ve never felt the need to have pure blacks on a monitor. Using a monitor in the dark hurts my eyes, so with the lights on the grayish blacks on an ips are perceived as black relative to the brightness of the room. I’ve never noticed a difference in color accuracy, gamut, or vibrancy between ips and oled. It’s literally only the blacks. They both suck at hdr for different reasons.
I have a 144Hz 4K IPS monitor and I never play in the dark so the usual downsides aren’t really noticeable and it was less than half as much as an OLED at the same size
Buy the IPS one anon, i got the VA one cause i was memed into "muh deeper blacks" when in fact this piece of shit blurs like a motherfucker, VA never again, threw 250 bucks in the trashcan basically.
Yeah i know, i'm beating myself over that, the store i bought it from does have a 14 day return policy but i was fucking stupid and excited to finally have a decent monitor that i didn't even notice the ghosting till i booted up an ARPG and the item text boxes on the ground became fucking black while moving. Needless to say that was after the 2 week period has ended. But oh well i was planning to buy a 2nd one next year anyway so imma get the IPS one and have this one in portrait mode to the side for browsan.
They're a meme imo. I have a g7, and I don't think it adds anything to the experience. Obviously it feels weird going back to a flat monitor, but that goes both ways.
Curve in ips displays only exist for 34 uw displays where it certainly helps bring the edges closer to your eyes.
Curve in 27" va's exist because VA have poor viewing angles and it obviously helps with color uniformity there. Samsung g7 would look worse if it was flat.
>What the fuck is your excuse?
i dont want to pay over $500 for a 1440p monitor. Monitor tech advances fast enough that in two years a $1000 monitor's features trickle down into the $500 tier. also my windows keeps waking up from sleep or being shut down randomly so burn in concern is really big for me. I wouldn't mind paying a grand for something like the ultragear oled or rog swift but if i drop a grand on a monitor then get burn in i'd basically want to fucking kill myself, if I drop $500 and get burn in i'd be assblasted but survive the remorse.
based on my friend's experience with them and seeing his monitor in person it seems like it's a nothingburger feature. Not something to avoid or seek out.
my current pc flatscreen is over a decade old and still going strong
https://www.mm-vision.dk/24-asus-vg249q1a-tuf-fullhd-ips-1ms-165hz-gaming-skaerm
thinking of getting this, just to be sure if the ye olde screen should finally croak soon
I refuse to buy an OLED because of the degradation issue. As far as I'm concerned, it's overpriced planned-obsolescent goyslop that I would end up autistically babying whenever I use it. Black wallpaper, no icons, hidden taskbar, lowest brightness settings, constantly fearing that static UI elements are up for too long, etc. And I don't want to hear any OLEDfags try to tell me this isn't an issue just because they've had theirs for a year and haven't noticed any problems. My previous monitor lasted me a decade and I only switched because it made sense to go to 1440p/144hz. I ain't dropping a grand or more on some monitor that's going to go to rubbish in a few years max
Spending money on something you don't need is nagger-tier. I can afford it, but I refuse to on principle. I'm not spending that much on a monitor that's going to have burn in issues soon after with normal use or require autistic babying
there are desirable things in life that frugality doesn't always cover. >I want to spend this 3-5 year portion of my life looking at a monitor that can properly display contrast
yes I would prefer not to reward disposable tech but
Which one Ganker? >LG UltraGear 27GR95 27" OLED 799€
+flat
-16:9 >Samsung Odyssey G8 S34BG850S 34" OLED 879€
+ultrawide
-curved
I'm currently using an IPS UW and I'd go for the Samsung UW but I'm not too keen on curved monitors
I have that exact model, I love it. What really makes it sexy is how good the HDR is rather than just the OLED on its own. The SpecialK HDR retrofit makes neon lights in Yakuza so pretty.
I'm tired of today's "gaming" monitors being worse at displaying motion (one of the most important metrics for games unless you only care about "cinematic" slop) than monitors from 20+ years ago. That's the real meme, and manufacturers don't deserve to be excused for their laziness.
There isn't one because BFI on OLEDs is either shit or (in the case of every monitor currently on the market) nonexistent, since manufacturers literally don't give a shit about improving and/or including BFI.
There is 4k 42" oled tvs
mostly because of qd oled being unfit for desktop work applications and uw restricting the market to mostly gamers
also who cares about 4k for gaming?
What are all the PC benchmarks at? 4K.
What do all of the PC game spec sheets target? 4K.
What are all 2D elements like UIs mastered at? 4K.
What is the entire reason why GPUs have all pivoted to upscaling? 4K.
4K is the target resolution of every modern game.
Yes actually. My computer chair is on its last legs and if it goes then it's going to be difficult to get a new one with food prices fucking me in the ass.
But even if I did, what's the point? I mean the LCD monitors I've got have lasted 6 years with 0 problems. I often walk through tech stores and while higher resolutions are neat I don't really see it as a justification. 720p to 1080p was a big leap for me, but 1440p or 4K isn't. I'd rather have the locked 60 FPS framerate.
nope, no noise. Although plasmas do give off a lot of RF interference which can mess with old analogue equipment from what I've heard, from what I understand. But I have my boomer tech like my CRTs for old game consoles and VCRs in a separate game room anyway.
OLED TVs aren't worth it especially as a PC monitor. You're just asking for burn in especially if you run Windows in HDR, and the brightness levels are mediocre unless you're in a pitch black room so any glare on the screen will make it hard viewing.
These days tn is solely for those 360-500hz displays meant for esports
VA has great colors and odyssey g6 is a great rec for a monitor these days
Then if you feel like VA is too low class you go to OLEd
IPS is dedicated to 4k work displays or something where you dont care about contrast or pixel response times
I have one but it shipped with a problem where when only one color is visible, there are gigantic lines going down the screen. Will be returning tomorrow
Once it's a stable tech, sure. For now I'm waiting on the delivery of a Viewsonic XG320Q. A 0.5ms 1440p W-LED is good enough for me. Right now I'm viewing through what basically can be summed up as ass. Can't wait.
my monitor has 56 edge local dimming zones which is enough to prevent IPS glow so I'm good for the next 6 years. You OLED fuckers are going to replace your monitors & TV's every other year guaranteed because of burn in.
I'm not happy with the burn-in risk, nor the premium price, and I don't want a curved screen neither. There's some promising flat panels coming out soon, but I don't think I want to pay the asking price. I got a M28U last year and I'll probably stick with that for a few years still
I want an OLED but I plan on doing a lot of work as well as gaming on my desktop so I can't justify it. It will 100% burn in with all the static stuff I leave on screen. Do people really buy a high end desktop and only use it for gaming and nothing else?
What other things could they be using it for? I use my PC for gaming and general browsing or video watching. I do zero work on my PC because I don't work from home and have no reason to perform work on it. I don't stream either, but I guess you could use one for gaming, streaming, and entertainment and then use one for work or other stuff. I'd obviously want to use the better monitor for generally everything though as things would look better on it.
I do work from home but I work for a large hospital system so I have to use a separate desktop they gave me. Thankfully I have a massive L-shaped desk in my office that fits both PCs
OLED and HDR are genuine features in a market that has been been alternating incremental upgrades and downgrades of the same technology for like two decades.
No the TV market is actually a good market with nice upgrades every year but the actual tech progression is slow so the upgrades year over year aren't huge but nice enough regardless.
There's a pathetically small difference in picture-quality between the average LCD TV from now and 15+ years ago. If you have a high-end model with FALD and good HDR, then sure, but those are way more expensive than a run-of-the mill OLED, which was a huge leap.
That's not true at all. TV are more colour accurate than ever, have a wider colour gamut than ever, have better processing than ever, better motion, better uniformity, contrast, brightness, response times, audio passthrough support etc. OLED isn't anything special and LCD still trumps it in many ways. OLED is the successor to plasma which was inherently a flawed tech due to organic material deterioration which OLED also suffers from. LCD will always be the front runner technology which is why the next big leap in TV tech is microLED which has all the benefits of LCD and OLED in one package.
They're better but not what you'd expect from that timespan. Most of those are details that were available before as well, they were just too stupid/cheap to implement them (like having proper 24fps playback without 60Hz stuttering.) The pathetic old tech is largely the same, except for the most expensive models as I said, and even then it's all crutches and duct tape.
>better processing >OLED isn't anything special
Don't make me laugh, anyone's who's had to suffer a LCD with garbage local dimming (which again, has been the vast majority below the top-end) knows this is absolutely false.
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A bad implementation of a technology doesn't make the technology itself bad. Most low end TVs don't have FALD but there aren't any OLEDs which compete at these low prices anyway so that's a moot point. Some midrange TVs have FALD depending on the company (like Hisense but unlike Samsung) but again OLEDs don't compete at these price points which is why even LG themselves nanocell TVs at these price points. OLED is at the top end and most of what it competes against is arguably better for the money depending on which way you look at it. Sure in a pitch black room displaying a scene of stars against the darkness of the sky an OLED would look noticeably better in a side by side, but that isn't a realistic viewing condition for the vast majority of people. If you want to talk about tech which hasn't improved in 15 years well then talk about OLED brightness which is inherently limited to piss poor levels between 150-300 nits full screen because of circuitry limitations. LCD doesn't have this problem. And even mid range LCD TVs get brighter than that. Then there's other limitations such as VRR flicker which is another inherent limitation of OLED tech which LCD has already solved. Or the fact even the most cutting edge OLEDs today such as Samsungs flagship QD-OLEDs decrease the brightness of the picture over time due to aforementioned circuitry limitations. When it comes to OLED for every benefit it has it also has a bunch of shortcomings.
Ultragear has always been a little overpriced imo, but LG can generally charge that much because their nano ips panels are the best ips panels. You also had to pay the official gsync tax on top of that. Price aside, it’s a solid monitor you have, anon.
thanks, my only gripe with this monitor is it has a weird firmware bug where it will set your fullscreen applications to 120fps because it has a seperate "4k 120" mode for ps5 consoles. the way to fix this if you own the LG GQ850-B is to delete the 4k resolution entries using Custom Resolution Utility, or playing in borderless.
Ultragear has always been a little overpriced imo, but LG can generally charge that much because their nano ips panels are the best ips panels. You also had to pay the official gsync tax on top of that. Price aside, it’s a solid monitor you have, anon.
My Acer monitors left side from the middle sometimes gets red lines going along the top to the bottom when trying to display darker pixels and I have to hit the monitor on the back where the Displayport is to make it stop.
My Philips takes like 8+ minutes to start up and flashes like a broken light-bulb with set intervals before it does then works completely fine..
uhhh based. I'm using the exact same monitor and its alright. Stand was annoying but I put it on an arm. Recommended it to a friend and he likes it. Recommended another monitor with the same panel, some LG monitor, to a friend and he enjoys the quality panel. the lack of dark blacks becomes really apparent in resident evil games being dark gray but this is what we signed up for with lower mid range IPS.
I have two monitors. One is a 27" 4k/60hz IPS, for normal tasks, and that uses integrated graphics.
For video games, movies, and shows, I have a 42" LG C2 off to the side that the GPU is plugged into. It's off unless I'm using it. This is the best way to go about it at this point to never worry about burn-in. i've had zero issues after 3 years. I highly recommend this approach. Honey Select 2 looks great in 4k/120 HDR.
That's great, but I made it up. I use a 11.6" 1366x768 chromebook, and I fantasize about spending $3,000 on a nice setup like that, through posting lies on here.
No, I can't even run it on this. It's ARM and ChromeOS. I'm debating what to build for HS2, though, and I can't really decide on what kind of monitor spec I want to build for. People say 4K is a meme. People say 144Hz is a meme. I don't know what to do short of buying a prebuilt and a 4k/144hz monitor to mess with the settings and see for myself what's worth it and what isn't, and then returning all of that, and building what I want.
ok nevermind then, you lying bad anon. 🙁
I used you for my own gain. It's probably a good solution, though. If I were to decide to spend that much, that'd be the setup I'd choose.
I was always curious why all those epic gaming monitors have bad colors? I mean look at monitors for artists. They have best color accuracy and you need to use calibration tool (physical) for best results. But no expensive gaming monitor show you "stats" important for color accuracy.
a lot of modern anime games like Elden Ring, Tales of Arise, Scarlet Nexus, Armored Core, Baldurs Gate 3, etc are super easy to run in 4K. You don't need AAA slop that uses raytracing to get use out of a 4k monitor.
Grabbed one of these 6 months ago for just under $500, well worth it. A screen the same size and half the resolution but with le burn in OLED is like $1100+ still
Can you actually run games at a solid 4k/144? I'm asking sincerely. What did you upgrade from? I'm trying to decide if I should build for 4k/144 or if it's a not a good idea yet.
I had a 1440p 144hz TN panel that I turned into a vertical side monitor. The difference in resolution from 4K as well as color depth/accuracy and wide viewing angles from IPS made a big difference. I have an RTX 3080, I can play games like BF1 era and older at native 4K/ultra and can push the refresh rate at times, obviously newest high fidelity stuff still has to have a more realistic target of 60 and that’s with using DLSS if you want to run RT and all that shite
Damn. This is why I hesitate. I don't know if i want to put $900-$1,600 into a 7900XTX or 4090 to fully utilize it, but I also feel like I'd be futuerproofing by just buying it all now instead of waiting for like the 8900XTX or 5090 in 2025.
Yes but even the best monitors won't be able to reach that because everything gets scaled. 4k at 27 inches is like 160ppi or something. 4k at 32 inches is even less than that. anyway typically this is how it goes 1080p is best for 24in monitors, 1440p for 27, and 4k for 32. 4k on 24 you'd have to scale that to 200% to be usable otherwise shit will look ultra tiny. and vice versa
I would get a new one every year just because of how FAST they're evolving.
At point this, even the Alienware QD-OLED is ancient compared to next year's offerings. We'll get 4k/240hz and 1440p/360hz displays!
Also, LG has already confirmed that a DFR display is in the works, enabling it to do both 4k/240hz, and 1080p/480hz.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
STOP MAKING FUCKING CURVED SCREENS
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never understood high refresh rate autism
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. 60hz is fine. I noticed a difference dropping from 144hz to 60hz but it was marginal. Growing up playing console vidya at 30fps I feel blessed with 100hz, and I'd be happy with 60hz, I liked 144hz but I don't miss it. 200+ is autism.
3 weeks ago
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60hz is a shit number. It stutters on nearly every type of video there is. Doesn't fit into 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 59.94. 120hz fits more of these but any higher refresh rate makes the judder less visible.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This. 60hz is fine. I noticed a difference dropping from 144hz to 60hz but it was marginal. Growing up playing console vidya at 30fps I feel blessed with 100hz, and I'd be happy with 60hz, I liked 144hz but I don't miss it. 200+ is autism.
60hz is a shit number. It stutters on nearly every type of video there is. Doesn't fit into 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 59.94. 120hz fits more of these but any higher refresh rate makes the judder less visible.
i got 144hz but always stick it at 100 or 120hz now because its kind of a waste of gpu power. VRR is really the thing that makes the difference
3 weeks ago
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What does VRR do?
3 weeks ago
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I might be wrong but I think your refresh rate will always match the framerate of the game so there is no tearing and it always feels smooth so even if there are fps dips you don't really notice.
3 weeks ago
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it wouldn't mean it's always smooth. it just removes screen tearing.
3 weeks ago
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>it wouldn't mean it's always smooth. it just removes screen tearing.
ah okay. My monitor has it but then why not just use vsync it that point? IS it purely for better input latency?
3 weeks ago
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It's so you don't need to have an FPS above the refresh rate. You simply never have screen tearing.
yes, you'd fuck yourself over using it for web browsing much faster than someone who only uses it for media, even with full brightness and HDR
your monitor being on doesn't really matter as long as the old hide taskbar black wallpaper shit is being done, but a browser being on it constantly won't end well
Well I'm happy with my dell ultrawide (S3422DWG). Really nice monitor. It's VA but there is no "smearing" as some VAs have. Contrast is good and can get the colors really good if you make your own color profile
No 4k options, expensive, new technology that probably still needs some improving on the part of manufacturers, at least a little bit. Being an early adopter is for suckers.
If they're big, no. Having a flat, huge panel makes it difficult to keep everything in your field of view. That being said, I would not buy a fucking 45" monitor, curved or not.
they're not shilling here per se, that's what their channel is for. No... their posts here are entirely pro bono because they just want to gush even more about how great nvidia and dlss is
I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, but they might as well go to reddit for that.
I don't really think they post here but I find it funny to imagine its them whenever I see posts about how great raytracing is or how amazing dlss is. Just sounds like DF shilling on their channel distilled into a post
I personally would argue it's a big plus for ultrawides but for anything else it's a meme
with that said, if you're concerned enough about price to risk open box on an oled and sell your old monitors, do not get it
>sell my two monitors
is it ultrawide? whats even the res on that thing? Its great for desktop use but the aspect ratio can be a pain in the ass for some games. Even on 21:9 I sometimes have to put up with pillarboxes
>witcher
dilate
Cool it with the transphobic remarks
witcher is now an ESG franchise therefore Ganker approved
Obsessed
Still mad about 2015, FromTranny?
I have a superior LCD monitor. Boy, that was easy.
>LCD
>Superior
hahahahahahahahaha
>anon is literate
Ganker is healing.
Enjoy your burn in.
I'll be enjoy my micro led monitor with 240hz refresh and super wide aspect
>woAH
Nice 20 dollar monitor sold out the back of the factory.
>IPS HAD NEVER BEEN KNOWN FOR POOR BLACK LEVELS
OK renter
I'm not talking about the black levels to start with. I am talking of the BLB.
I keep my monitors at like 75% brightness and I tried taking a picture that terrible before WITH SUNLIGHT STREAMING ON THEM when I got them for the memes and it just looked black. Closest I could get was standing like 12 feet back and zooming in 400% but you still couldn't see anything along the edges, it was just all super dull grayish looking at that point.
The images retards who here are clearly some super cheap shitty piece of garbage someone else took meaning you don't know how they actually got it to look that bad that you're using as an example to pretend you know what you're talking about. You don't.
the lcd panel lottery is known for a reason
cope
No, that's pretty standard for LCD gaymer monitors
Something's wrong with your MSI monitor bro
yeah because retards like me fell for the cheapest monitors trap
just pay that 100 bucks extra m8, it's worth it over 10 years runtime
Still muddy gray lol
just close your eyes when there is a fade to black
it's the uniformity that counts
also as soon there is anything bright on screen your eyes will adjust and it looks black enough
tryhard pure black is for loosers with no rbg ambiance light
lmao retard. Muddy blacks lead to washed out colors
>implying your monitor will last 10 years
I'm still surprised mine only started failing after 8 and not sooner.
nice gta v intro reference
I don't support anything designed to kill itself. OLEDs are the trannies of monitor tech.
I work in grafix and design for the majority of my day and don't want to deal with image retention.
I have an OLED tv tho.
my pc is not powerful enough to use oled features
to max, so it would go to waste
>my pc is not powerful enough to use oled features to max
What? Does oled require more power or some shit?
what are you talking about, retard
it's just a display
I'm not a tranny
burn ins
What's with all the pro-OLED shilling recently? Is it a psyop?
Just casuals being casuals.
dumb zoomer get over here so I can correct you
Since all the major manufacturers begin to use Oled screens and the narrative started shifting from "le guaranteed burn in in 1 month" the anti Oled trolls are now trolling the Led users.
I personally hate both because it results in anecdotal evidence from both sides and there is barely any trusted info out there.
There is nothing anecdotal about OLED's burn-in, it is a scientific fact that there will be uneven pixel wear due to the relatively low lifespan of the organic material used, which forces manufacturers to use compromises such as aggressive ABL, pixel shifting, and aging the entire panel to patch the overused pixels.
The anecdotal is the time it takes to wear down. Otherwise anons wouldn't post the same ten pictures about torture tests for years now. Oled threads just a year ago claimed these screens will become unusable in just a few months, then as the technology spread it turned into 6 months and a few years. Now it became a vague "short" and "low lifespan" because the critics never seen or used an oled screen. Everybody loves to post the CNN test screens from RTING but nobody posts the Call of Duty 9000 hours screen which as good as new. This is why you can't find accurate information about the subject anywhere. Oledfags always shrug off any serious concern while burn in fags make it obvious they only get their info from shitposts. The only thing you know is the manufacturers selling these as dedicated gaming screens now and there aren't any backlash anywhere despite Oled became extremely popular since 2020.
When I bought my Oled screen 2 years ago (for dedicated video game usage) someone promised it won't last 6 months. Since it is still in pristine condition I'm very skeptical about similar comments now.
True. CRT is king
Switch oled and steam deck oled is a psyop.
get your fucking eyes checked if shilling for a superior monitor technology is bad. None of you understand how the crystaline structure actually guarantees garbage screens. And that's not even talking about the horrifying backlight situation that is still garbage in 2023. Microled isn't around the corner anytime soon for below 50 inch or whatever lg/samsung has in the pipeline. Samshit said they would be using anode/cathod tech for quantum dot based displays but lol. FED/SED were the superior product and you all sucked the gamer cock like the gullible homosexuals you all are.
It's just shitposting.
The digital foundry guys are here. They are probably behind any positive posts about nvidia and dlss you might see too
What would be the point in shilling on the
>buying videos games
board?
they're not shilling here per se, that's what their channel is for. No... their posts here are entirely pro bono because they just want to gush even more about how great nvidia and dlss is
Sell me on this.
it looks good
It's bent, looks dumb as hell!
>caring about muh pixels
i have a 49 inch superultrawide Asus monitor with a 3840x1080 resolution and i will probably never need to get anything better than this.
i care more about what i hear in games, than what i see.
my friend is an OLED fanatic, he talks about it non stop like a homosexual.
>omg omg omg look how it looks like
>i dont see a difference
>HOW DARE YOU *shits himself for an hour*
I definitely see a difference between my very expensive IPS monitor and my OLED telly, but it really isn't that huge.
I tend to do everything with the lights on though. If I was in a darkened room all the time I'd probably appreciate the OLED a lot more.
>>i have a 49 inch superultrawide Asus monitor with a 3840x1080 resolution and i will probably never need to get anything better than this.
Why did you buy half a monitor? Are you a chink or something, are your eyes so squinty that you worry about having any vertical space?
what are you talking about?
You're missing the top half of your monitor sweetie
no im not.
stop trying to communicate, autist
math retard
Only thing on OLED that I can see is when movies/games are letter boxed (garbage) the OLED makes the letter boxing literally disappear since those pixels turn off. Otherwise yeah its retarded.
I play games meaning I will never buy any of these.
>What the fuck is your excuse?
No cheap 1440p 240hz options
240hz is equal to 80hz on a crt. Get your eyes checked when you see the smearing of shit on your monitor.
>displaying 80 frames is the same as displaying 240
I know Ganker sucks at understanding technology, but come the fuck on
>What the fuck is your excuse?
I also work on my PC
>upgrading when your current equipment works perfectly fine
must consooom marginal improvements
I have superior WOLED in my LG C2 42
QD-OLED is for trannies
>could buy any monitor I want
>literally do not care
>use some outdated piece of shit
simple as
i don't know the difference
i have a g7 odyssey is that oled?
QLED, it's basically the in-between step of LCD and OLED
I know, I have the same monitor and I've been trying to work its features, its HDR on W10 is functionally useless
based g7 bro
idk shit about monitors though sorry
Isnt the Burn in still the Issue for OLED ???
It isn't nearly as bad these days, but then retards talk about it like "yeah bro just autohide your toolbar, use a special screensaver, only have a black background, and by the time your browser toolbar starts to burn in, youll be ready for a new monitor anyway"
Maybe in a few years when OLEDs arent $500-700 more than a good IPS
I've had my cx for 3 years and I'm using my PC around 16 hours every day
zero burn in
if you are a retard then yes
most of you static content should be done on 2nd LCD monitor while your main OLED monitor should only be used for full screen media and gaming
>2nd monitor
How poor are you?
>He doesn't just buy a new monitor every few years
lol
why would you want to even do that??
when I buy a monitor I want it to last for more than 5 years at the very least
>using a computer monitor for its intended purpose makes you a retard
OLED's aren't designed for computer use retard, even most warranties don't cover burn in and if they do it's only for a few years.
Having a 2nd monitor that sits there doing nothing the majority of the time is pretty ridiculous. Advances have been made in the tech to improve the durability and manufacturers are starting to push OLED a lot harder now, so it seems like the intent is to make them durable enough for general use and mainstream.
QDOLED like in ops pic are still know to easily burn in though rtings even tested them.
LG's WOLED tech seems to have figured out the issue but Samsung is still lagging behind in burn in prevention.
I will still recommend waiting until PHOLED becomes comes to market which will be even better at burn in prevention but that tech is still a year or two out
Then don't sell them as computer monitors, retard.
Why the fuck should I have to adapt the way I use my computer instead of a company making a monitor that actually does what it's supposed to?
you have the consumer mindset cranked to 11
The consumer mindset would be buying a monitor that doesn't function as a monitor because marketing told you to.
>get an oled monitor p-poorfag!
>n-noo don't use your monitor as a monitor
low iq even for Ganker standards
Yes. Just wait for MicroLED if you actually want time to use the thing properly.
I've had burn-in on 2 LCDs, an old phone and an IPS monitor that was 12 years old. Now my OLED phone is showing it on the notification bar after 4 years.
My plasma TV is about 10 years old, has no burn-in whatsoever despite people warning about burn-in much like OLED TVs (it's guaranteed).
The burn-in is always from very static images, like web browser or taskbar/notification bars after many, many, many hundreds of hours of the same exact image.
By the time you get burn-in, the device is old enough that the honeymoon period is well passed and you won't care. You can still use it, usually it's not noticeable under general use. Or buy something new at this point.
Point is, it's not gonna happen right away. I've seen people accept brand new TVs with what's known as dirty screen effect, which is exactly what it sounds like, and is very noticeable on light coloured screens.
This is considered acceptable and some companies won't RMA (I know from experience). It looks much worse and is always very visible from the factory. Yet people seemingly don't notice or care. Most TVs had this to an extent I'm the past, not sure now. But no-one ever cared because they hadn't heard of that specific buzzword, unlike burn-in.
Yes. OLED would be perfect if there was no burn-in. Insane motion clarity, insane color depth and range. I would've snapped up an LG 27GR95QE in a heartbeat. But I cannot justify spending a premium on monitor tech that gets "worn down" over time, even if you take every measure to slow down burn-in.
It's not a matter of "if it experiences burn-in" - it's a matter of "when."
I have the Alienware AW3423DWF which has a 3 year burn in warranty
>use monitor has hard as possible, ensuring burn in within 3 years
>try to claim warranty
>"oh im sorry sir, see, your usage patterns and total hours has voided your warranty due to some technicality in our TOS
I guarantee it will be something like that
Feel free to prove me wrong, though.
Not really, any oled display nowadays has a bunch of mitigation measures built in. You could use them just like a regular display.
The only things you might want to set on your pc are autohide taskbar and this mystical thing called a screensaver.
>a bunch of mitigation measures built in
automatic screen dimming is really annoying and if you disable it you're asking for burn in again
No, it's all poorfag cope. Used my OLED phone for nearly a decade every day for hours with no burn in
Buying an OLED monitor this Black Friday
Already have a C2 for the living room
No. Dead pixels are the real threat that NO ONE talks about.
>t. 3 year old LG CX 65 with almost 50 dead pixels already
It’s to new for a monitor. I got a TV for the house but as a monitor the price can’t be justified yet. By the time monitors are fairly priced it will be in to the next advancement
I don't like spending a ton of extra money for differences that don't amount to much in practical use.
I’m not naggercattle that “needs” the latest gimmick
I wouldn't be able to see shit in the shadows
so my excuse is shadow crushing, which is a real thing
Guess what, “black crush” isn’t a real thing. In real life you don’t see perfect shadow detail and outlines
game devs and movie directors make everything so you see those details, in theaters and in video games, real life matters shit and you just showed how much of a retarded redditor you are
My 1440p/165hz monitor works fine for me
Every time I consider dropping absurd amounts of money on an OLED I just remind myself that my IPS monitor's image quality doesn't matter to me when I'm actually immersed and enjoying a game. Nor does it being only 1440p and not 4k. Good audio is way more important. All this OCD bullshit is just for jaded people that don't actually enjoy video games. They just want to gawk at how pretty the graphics look on their shiny new 4k oled screen and then just close the game.
this is what looking at an LCD feels like after using an OLED for months
Now turn off the lights
I was making a point an LCD to me looks like a projector with the lights on
My point is theres no Difference between OLED and LED if you turn off the lights
All i see is 3 blacks. Theres absolutely no difference here
You are fucking blind, the ips is the glow in the dark nagger like you. Fucking people can't even tell when their backlight is on now a days are so low iq it's embarrasing.
>for just 1000bucks you can have black screens
thanks but my 10bucks shades work just as fine
*Saves You 500 Bucks to buy better Nvidia GPU*
>he thinks turning down the brightness in-game will eliminate IPS glow
I got used of IPS glow since late 2000s since Every device uses them
retard
Just Calibrate anon, it only takes 30 minutes to a hour to do so
>needing to calibrate to 160nits brightness so his backlight bleed is 35% less noticeable
holy fuck that is some cuck shit
Beats spending $1000 for experimental hardware that will goes down to $100 in 5 years
my LGC2 42" was like $500
Thats a TV not a Monitor
still beats any lcd monitor on the market in all regards other than refresh rate
Try to use it other than gaming for extended period of time. TV is not a cheaper replacement for Monitor
My dad tried to make me use an old 32" 720p tv as a monitor. All I could say was it looked absolutely disgusting
>VA has visible BL while the IPS doesn't
lol
anyway all will be black in common light conditions, while only one will have the RTings logo burnt in mysteriously
It's the opposite actually, the biggest difference is at dark since you can notice the gray blacks.
This is the most uneducated comment in the whole thread. You have absolutely no clue lol why even post when you're this clueless, fuck off
I get you, but once again: doesn't matter to me when I'm enjoying a game. Don't even notice it. The only time I start looking for imperfections, autistically tweaking graphics options and thinking that buying a 4090 will bring "the magic back" is when I'm bored with a game. Amnesia: The Bunker is a very dark looking game and I barely even noticed how shit and washed out it probably looked on my old ass IPS screen. You know why? Because I was too busy shitting my pants.
you won't notice a big difference in bright areas in game true but in dark scenes it is a night and day difference, IPS glow looks horrible compared to the perfect blacks you would get with an OLED.
yes, I know. did you even read my post? I know what oled looks like since a friend of mine bought a massive OLED TV for his PS5. and it looks absolutely amazing, I'll give you that. but I would absolutely ruin that shit if I hooked it up to a computer. that shit would have the windows task bar burned into it in a year. the tech is just not there yet. I'm not dropping 2k on a prototype.
JTP
they all have major issues right now: excessive dimming, anti-glare coatings, weak peak brightness, poor software control
i'm not against them cus the one on my laptop looks incredible with 0 issues, but there hasn't been that 'one' gaming monitor that ticks all the boxes yet, best to keep waiting
i use a VA panel
i dont care
VA panels have horrible motion handling/ghosting etc have fun with that
black crush
>monitor
heh child toy
it's all cool and dandy until your task bar is fucking printed on the 1K monitor
The pixel refresh every 4 hours is maddening, especially when the warning comes up in the middle of a game and you can't see shit for half a minute.
I own this monitor for like 6 months and have no regrets, really made gaming more immersive.
Just be aware if your eyesight is slightly off you will see a small red-underline on all text and objects. I only seen this after a heavy night of drinking. If you search online you will see a lot of people having this problem but they are just not aware that there eyes are fucked.
I turned of the pixel refresh pop-up that comes every 4 hours, it will now only refresh when I am away from the screen, you can cancel it by just moving your mouse.
>va
>Better blacks with no crush
>Better colors
>Better brightness
>Less power, less heat
>Doesn't kill itself
OLED is for cucks
holy mother of cope
enjoy your smear
>Turns BFI on and I can cause the brightness goes so high
unreal how you are wrong on all points
Burn in and the fact that 4k 120hz monitors are more expensive than my 5 year old pc. I'm doing fine with my existing monitor thanks.
that exact monitor will be delivered to my house tomorrow together with the other parts of my new pc
It's a very nice monitor
I don't like blacks.
Buying this during black friday times if it goes on sale. Been playing 1080p for a long time so I want to feel a big upgrade
>ultrawide
You'll learn your lesson soon enough.
whats wrong with ultrawide?
t.retard
Nothing. The only answer you ever get from these kinds of people are “meme resolution.”
Some people look at UW as two small 1080p/1440p monitors but without the bezel.
Others look at it as a cut down half the height 4k
The people who see it as a cut down 4k think you're a fucking retard for paying more for half.
not that anon but I can barely handle a 27 inch monitor, it feels like i have to move my eyes sometimes. my monitor is about 3 feet away
>700 burgerbucks
>eyepiss
Hey, anon, just a heads up, but the 34gp83a-b is nearly identical to that one, but it will be $640 on Black Friday. Don’t know why LG released two monitors that are that similar, but the performance is virtually the same.
Already bought a g7 when they were the new hot shit and don't intend to change it till g9 microleds are a thing
microled won't be a thing until 2045
Well fug then, the nu g9 seemed nice but mini led feels like a huge cope compared to the real thing
mini led will eventually be on par with oled imo when they increase the dimming zones to like over 2,000
LED will have a resurgence when that happens, at that point they will pretty much be almost identical to OLED while also being able to get super bright and zero risk of burn in.
MicroLed would be out before that happens. Apple pro monitors with almost that much zones still suck with the blooming.
I really hope microled in the long run is more affordable and reliable than oled since they won't be using organic materials.
hopefully in the 2030's they will start mass producing them the same way lcd's are mass produced on the cheap today.
For computer monitors yeah. Right now they're available as those 100" TVs that cost like $50k
And? I'll just keep buying LCD until it's ready. I will never buy casuaLED. That simple.
OLEDs are blurry as fuck and have a short lifespan.
Until panel makers invent a panel type with as good motion clarity as CRT, I’m good with my LED monitor.
>he doesn't have an OLED 42'' TV as monitor
lmao
Whos 27gl850 bros here ??
looks ok for an office, not for gaming.
Thats a literally gaming monitor
>it doest have rgb leds to match the color of my tranny flag
144hz and 1440p are literally gaymen specs.
Have it, it's great for everything, gaming included
The later -B variant has better colors and is 180hz but i have two of these too. I prefer them over oled. I've bought 3 different $1000 oled panels and returned each one since their brightness is ass, hdr is gimped, and the subpixel text layout is unreadable. Also fuck ultrawide.
This monitor is what drove me to buy an OLED. Couldn't stand the washed out blacks and awful HDR. Everything else about it was great, though
I've got a curved Samsung 27 inch monitor that I picked up two or three years ago. Also got a 50-inch Sony 4K tv hooked up as a second monitor that I use for media and Youtube. I know there's probably better ways of setting things up, and I wouldn't mind a proper second monitor for a few things, but honestly, my setup is about as good as I could get it.
Isn't that shit has a fucking cooling fan? Shit's ridiculous.
I bought a LG C3 TV. It's nice but I only use it if there's any show/movie worth torrenting or when I feel like couch gaming. Otherwise it's off and I sit at my PC mostly where my monitor is a TN panel. I can afford to buy a new monitor but I kind of don't like buying new shit unless I need it, my current monitor despite being 6 years old has no issues. The new TV I bought this year. I needed to replace my old LCD TV because it had backlight bleeding out the arse that was getting worse and worse and more noticeable even on colourful scenes instead of black scenes. I've never tried a curved monitor before.
can i buy 4k 120+ hz oled that won't burn in in at least 3 years and costs no more than $300? if not then fuck off with your consoomer shit i'll just use whatever i have
my TN panel from 2010 still works so idc
>TN panel from 2010
Jesus Christ man, early TN looked absolutely awful. Just try literally anything modern. Such a downgrade from CRTs.
my understanding of OLED is just that individual led's can shut off so they become a "true black" instead of being a lit-up black. Why don't regular LED monitors do this and then they'll have OLED's killer feature without the burn in?
OLED looks flat out better, as if the picture is being displayed as intended by the creator. For game I’m not sure but for TV viewing, you can clearly see the quality difference especially when directly compared side by side. There really isn’t anyone who would say otherwise if they saw it
Regular LED monitors that do that are called OLED monitors, anon.
The actual term is self emissive, as in the light is coming from the pixels themselves. microled is a non organic material which is why their touted as a step up since they can do oled but on steroids but without the claimed bad life expectancy.
the answer to your question is microled and it's an extremely expensive prototype tech. conventional led is a marketing term, it's the same backlight that's always on going through lcd filters.
>Lcd filters
Ok, filter out light completely then? What's the problem?
Burn in.
Waiting for lg oled with dynamic hz mode 480hz/1080p 240hz/2160p otherwise not much reason to get one yet when there's no substantial reason to buy one over the TV.
>lcd
>oled
>qled
>woled
>qd-oled
>plasma
>va
>ips
jesus fuck why is technology like that?
Because shit is all flawed and one technology is just trying to cover the flaws of the other, while bringing new flaws. All this started because CRT had the biggest flaw of them all for normalfags, being too big. CRT still beats most modern display techs in color reproduction, motion clarity, etc.
Man, I wish they kept CRTs for a bit longer as an enthusiast technology or something like that, imagine what they could have done. CRTs basically entirely analog, most of them had no digital electronics at all, not a single microchip, it's basically signal in, signal out. Only later CRT TVs got stuff like awful upscalers.
Is there any difference between 60fps and 144fps ????? I cant really see it
It's a big difference
Dunno man. i cant really tell
your eyes are dumb, sorry
You mean blessed
Check that you are actually using 144 refresh rate on your OS. If you are then you are just kind of retarded.
yeah people need to understand that plugging in a new monitor to windows requires checking windows display settings and nvidia control panel if you hope to get vrr working
I did. I play Tony Hawk 1+2 and cant see the difference between 60 and 144
Was the game rendering 60 or 144+ fps?
144
Then you're legally blind. No really, I'd genuinely visit and optometrist. The upgrade was tremendous for me although I used to play a lot of FPS
I see a smoother gameplay, but not night and day difference like 30 and 60fps
The human eye is incapable of transmitting more than 24 frames per second data to your brain so no, all of it is nonsense and 30 fps is more than enough. Everything else is marketing shill cope.
bait used to be believable
0/10
i want a 34inch 1440p ultrawide 144hz+, what's the best monitor i can get without having to do autistic shit like hiding my task bar and running pixel refreshes incase i have the temerity to actually do monitor shit on my monitor?
Samsung g8 qd oled
same panel as the alienware isn't it? the one you have to babysit?
it does pixel refresh on its own but you might want a setup where you have risky content on an lcd monitor and use the oled for gaming and video content
i'm not getting two monitors. whole point of getting an UW is that i'm done with that shit. i'm definitely not getting an ultrawide and a seperate monitor just for work.
what planet do you people live on?
Dont get an ultrawide oled then.
Theres oled burn in measures that you have to live with it if you get one and dont want to buy a new one in couple years.
this was my first post
i want something that looks as good as it can without having to do autistic shit. what are my options? is this any good https://www.viewsonic.com/global/products/lcd/XG341C-2K
If you want something that looks good then don't get an lcd
Source: I made it up
miniled is horrible garbage compared to oled
Like its tolerable for tv when watching some movies but then you go do hdr gaming and the minileds have to be turned off when in desktop using sdr, the backlight lags behind the mouse and doesnt look good with harsh contrast edges in desktop
alright, so what do you recommend then? i'm not getting an OLED and dealing with all the burn in management shite that goes with that since i'll be using it for work aswell. i do graphic animation/visuals and everyone is using wide canvases these days so i need an UW and something capable of high refresh rates, and it'll be my main desktop monitor so want to gayme on it aswell.
don't just tell me everything sucks.
okay well you're getting some ips work monitor, maybe 4k so it looks crisp and text is optimal
The oled is simply a much better experience for media.
It's not going to burn in within 2 years unless you're retarded. The alienware ultrawides have a 3 year burn in warranty
>It's not going to burn in within 2 years unless you're retarded.
every single oled buyer thought that before it burnt in
>1440p
2016 called they want their resolution back!
Shut your bitch mouth
if you're not on a $2000 computer you're not dealing with 4K, now go sit down you entitled whoreson
2000$ for the gpu alone you mean
You need a 4090 at minimum if you want over 100 fps in modern games at 4k.
>NOO YOU CANT RUN AT 4K didnt you see the benchmarks of cyberpunk ultra raytraced pathtracing?!?!?!?
just play good games instead which run at 4k120 on a midrange card
nah
i'll be over here with 1440p 240hz
who doesnt love spending money on a monitor that the limits what games they can play
Poorfag tears
More like 2009. It's an ancient resolution.
I know you’re probably joking, but even if the resolution technically existed in 2009, I can’t imagine anyone was able to game at it. The gtx 280 and 295 struggled to hit more than 30 frames at 1080p in Crysis.
>What the fuck is your excuse?
naggers nearby
Monitors are garbage and they ask have matte coatings
We got Brad Pitt here who loves seeing himself on the reflection from israelite OLED screens.
glass panels are sick its like looking through a window into another world instead of a hazy matte mess
the ridiculously heavy matte coatings monitors use are shit for any kind of artistic media, you will never have an image that isn't mangled.
I got a 65 g3 oled
calm down richie rich
My work computer is OLED and I constantly get burn-in since I WFH and usually leave it on a screen for 4 hours while playing video games.
I tend to leave my PC on overnight so I don't want to deal with burn in.
That's retention, not burn in
A decent IPS is all I need
i dont really know or care about this stuff
for all i know i do own an OLED monitor
my PC display shows firefox frame through 70% of use time, i'm not buying anything that burns in. I own OLED TV for vidya/watching, and ordinary display for ordinary display purposes.
i have icons on my desktop and win bar at the bottom. oled burns and leaves marks if your monitor have static image. shit tech
I'm poor
I do. I just don't use it
i have Eizo GS2700S.
What now?
>bought a 165 hz monitor on a whim on BF
>start using it
>realize that it is VA
man I haven't been burned like this for a while.
The ghosting was HURRENDOUS
At least I returned it and got a voucher. Is ASUS VG249Q1A good enough for budget gaming?
Let me stop you right there anon.
I bought a VG249Q3A and had to send it back because the vignetting (darkness around the edges) was so bad. Not to mention the stand sucked and the whole thing felt like cheap plastic. If you want good 1080p 24" IPS, I recommend the BenQ MOBIUZ EX240. It's not a well-known brand but the monitors I got are good shit for the price, I can promise you.
sorry anon but I already bought since nobody replied after 7 hours. I'll look into it but I'm pretty sure the store will be cross with me after returning a monitor for the 2nd time. Oh well, thanks for the attempt.
When do we get OLED that doesn't get burn-in or something newer?
Is microLED still not a thing?
see
I’m tired of pouring money into PC gaming when game quality is at an all time low.
I don't like burn-in
Was shopping for one recently.
The Acer Nitro XV322QKKVbmiiphuzx caught my eye
Nothing but capitalist slop is being released today. FPS games are now controller aimbot wars. There's no reason to invest in hardware for video games anymore.
kys comme retard
I accept your concession Ivan
OLED necessitates gloss and I'd rather quit using computers entirely than use glossy panels again
I'll put up with they over inherent LCD flaws
CRT or gfo
I have one, LG 44,5" ultra wide, 240hz
I've used it for 1000h and can't tell if it's good or not, lots of trade in because of the ultra wide and anxiety because of the oled.
>He doesn't own an OLED monitor
I do, got the G9 OLED for about $850 new a couple of weeks back when Samsung was just giving out those discount codes. Way too good of a deal to pass up. Looks fucking insane and I only really play PC games, never minded messing with games to get them to work with weird aspect ratios (I "suffered" with 16:10, 21:9). Definitely can't recommend to someone that needs every game to just work out of the box and have it be flawless but that's because of the 32:9 aspect ratio.
Burn-in fear is obvious reddit FUD, even if this thing does burn in years from now, I'll be ready for something new anyway. That would probably be something like the 57" Odyssey Neo G9 in OLED at something stupid like 500hz.
>900 dollars
>Ultrawide which barely works with some older games natively without having to hack the game or suffer letterboxing, making it moot
Nah I will just stick with something a bit more simpler. Monitor looks cool though.
I use a 55" LG C2 (television) as a monitor with my pc. I think OLED monitors suck.
>Fall asleep with game open
>Money stolen
Most OLED panels have retarded energy saving methods hard wired inside, I have to touch a button on the remote control every 4 hours or it powers off on its own no matter what is happening.
You need to stop going off of retarded reddit comments and look at actual tests, modern OLEDs need to display the same image with pixel shift off for literal months straight before anything starts to show up. Check rting's longevity test.
Even for total retards that can afford to waste electricity like that, there's pixel shift and all sorts of bult-in protections to prevent anything from happening.
no thx
Enjoy your brick
So they're totally unsuitable for computing, got it. You know I leave the same windows up on my monitor for 12+ hours a day, right? Best case, they won't burn in for 6 whole months, wow.
Just throw it out and buy a new one lmao
No thanks, I'm not retarded. Won't be throwing out my current monitor for at least a decade, probably much longer given how little tech has advanced recently.
I got a new monitor in 2019, and if I had the spare cash for a $1200 OLED, I would just get a new GPU.
I will not touch OLED until someone makes a matte one, don't care who else wants it, I do. ASUS promised twice then never put it to market, so someone else better.
They don't want to release matte OLED panels because the coating fucks with the already terrible brightness.
How will the steam deck do then?
Just got one for my birthday actually after my old 1440x900 18 inch's 10 years of service.
Gotta say I didn't think much of curved monitors. Thought it was one of those "unnececary things" that only gamers that buy overtly powerful pc parts buy to flex.
27 inches, 1080p tho, Can't believed how long I missed out. As for why I finally switched, well my old monitor wasn't really broken at all, and still works fine, if out of date with the VGA. Plus the new PC I got didn't do VGA so I had to go with HDMI.
Still, love the hell out of this new monitor and PC. It's a Cyberpower Prebuilt but a damned good one.
>inb4 "He bought a pre-built".
>he bought a prebuilt
explain yourself
It's cheaper. $900 I paid, with $140 for the monitor. Not like I didn't do research and ask my tech friends first before I bought it.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-5500-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-1tb-ssd-black/6553008.p?skuId=6553008#tabbed-customerreviews
This is the specific one I got. Everything inside was neat and tidy, set up was a breeze. Only issue was my Trendnet wireless adapter didn't want to work on it. Ended up using the integrated wireless (which is actually pretty good for one so I'm told).
I mean I can play modern vidya at silky smooth FPS and looking very pretty so that's all that matters (Tested with Cyberpunk 2077 naturally).
Does anyone here even use HDR?
my Samsung Odyssey G7's attempts at HDR600 are fucking shit, so no
Only game I played with HDR was doom eternal
Yes
Retrofitting HDR with specialk and playing them on a QD is amazing
Got the lg one, returned it. Call me when we get glossy ones.
I use the samsung syncmaster p2370 that a friend gave to me for free years ago, looks fantastic
I use a CRT monitor. OLED would be a sidegrade. Get fucked.
Like 99.999% of people, I can't tell the difference.
>poppies
mmmm heroin
MicroLED when
OLED is clearly flawed shit
I am absolutely getting an OLED monitor this fall but it’s hilarious to me that 99% of fud/consumer fear is based around burn in when that’s actually a solved problem with newer implementations.
The REAL risk is DEAD PIXELS
>dead pixels~
>dead pixels
>dead pixels~~
>dead pixels
>dead pixels~
>dead pixels
LOOK IT UP. ITS A REAL PROBLEM
>burn in
>solved problem
my mom hasn't bought me one yet
>t. 26 yo basement neet
Christmas is almost here, anon. Write Santa a letter.
Just get some easy part time job. That’s what I did back in 2015 to build a kickass PC.
I've been thinking about it. Ideally a 4k 32" hdr glossy oled 144hz panel for $500 would be nice.
Are there any good 4k144hz hdr monitors that are 40 something inch? Using the neo g7 which is nice and all but I don't like the curve and 32 is still too small. Especially coming from what I used to have before which was a 55 inch tv.
I'm still waiting for my software update, would not recommend and OLED the industry is unprofessional.
literally my monitor
Price too big for a burn-in display.
Not suitable for work where GUIs are stuck on the screen for 80% of the time.
But it's ok for Switch and Steam Deck, I guess. Maybe even for people who play all time.
I get that pure black is tempting and if you have the funds to replace your screen every 2 years go for it.
But think about it, 99.9 of all content isn't just a black screen. Most things have stuff showing that isn't black.
Do you REALLY need pure black just for the bars on the edges of the screen when watching ultra wide or 4:3 stuff? Mini LED will do the job.
I’ve never felt the need to have pure blacks on a monitor. Using a monitor in the dark hurts my eyes, so with the lights on the grayish blacks on an ips are perceived as black relative to the brightness of the room. I’ve never noticed a difference in color accuracy, gamut, or vibrancy between ips and oled. It’s literally only the blacks. They both suck at hdr for different reasons.
>the grayish blacks on an ips are perceived as black
Isn’t the irony of your very clever frog post that a blind person would be able to distinguish black even better than a person with sight?
that is what happens when your pupils contract
I have a 144Hz 4K IPS monitor and I never play in the dark so the usual downsides aren’t really noticeable and it was less than half as much as an OLED at the same size
I'm not a retard like you. Anything else?
Im trans btw. Just started taking HRT last week 🙂
good for you op
I bought the G8. Its brilliant, 34" 4k 240hz.
can you use the backlight zones in sdr?
yes and it sucks unless you have over 8k zones
Ive not tried to be honest. Ive a 4090 so its literally only had it in hdr
doesnt windows desktop/browser experience look like utter ass with hdr?
you should buy couple more
that cannot be enjoyable to game on.
I'm buying this bad boy.
>monitors joining in the center of game display
Why?
Buy the IPS one anon, i got the VA one cause i was memed into "muh deeper blacks" when in fact this piece of shit blurs like a motherfucker, VA never again, threw 250 bucks in the trashcan basically.
man you could have tried to get it replaced. Any reputable store should have that option available.
Yeah i know, i'm beating myself over that, the store i bought it from does have a 14 day return policy but i was fucking stupid and excited to finally have a decent monitor that i didn't even notice the ghosting till i booted up an ARPG and the item text boxes on the ground became fucking black while moving. Needless to say that was after the 2 week period has ended. But oh well i was planning to buy a 2nd one next year anyway so imma get the IPS one and have this one in portrait mode to the side for browsan.
I'm getting the 24 inch 2K IPS one.
well done you just wasted 9000 dollars on monitors that you will never see. I guarantee he wont utilise them and will go back to just 1.
Why most rich people are always dumb as fuck
I wish i was dumb and rich
why are middle income americans so awe inspiring to some people
It was £1300 so nah I will stick to one for now.
>more wide
>no height
I think it's time we start going back to 4:3 to appreciate vertical fov.
>4 monitors instead of 3 or 5
>has to stare straight into a bezel
This guy is beyond retarded
I don't see how. He will always know where the middle of the screen is without retarded crosshairs or iron sights.
How does someone so stupid make so much money?
Is there a bigger meme than curved monitors?
I don't suffer from mental retardation
I use my monitor for WFH and gaming, so OLED is not an option due to burn-ins.
I have a mini-LED monitor. Near OLED black and much less burn-in risk. 240hz @ 4K too.
Putting aside the OLED discussion are curved monitors actually worth it or are they just a meme?
They're a meme imo. I have a g7, and I don't think it adds anything to the experience. Obviously it feels weird going back to a flat monitor, but that goes both ways.
Curve in ips displays only exist for 34 uw displays where it certainly helps bring the edges closer to your eyes.
Curve in 27" va's exist because VA have poor viewing angles and it obviously helps with color uniformity there. Samsung g7 would look worse if it was flat.
>What the fuck is your excuse?
i dont want to pay over $500 for a 1440p monitor. Monitor tech advances fast enough that in two years a $1000 monitor's features trickle down into the $500 tier. also my windows keeps waking up from sleep or being shut down randomly so burn in concern is really big for me. I wouldn't mind paying a grand for something like the ultragear oled or rog swift but if i drop a grand on a monitor then get burn in i'd basically want to fucking kill myself, if I drop $500 and get burn in i'd be assblasted but survive the remorse.
based on my friend's experience with them and seeing his monitor in person it seems like it's a nothingburger feature. Not something to avoid or seek out.
They are a meme that only exist to bandaid the shit viewing angles of VA
Huge meme. Flatscreen Master Race.
Not upgrading until 27" 1440p OLED drops to $500
my current pc flatscreen is over a decade old and still going strong
https://www.mm-vision.dk/24-asus-vg249q1a-tuf-fullhd-ips-1ms-165hz-gaming-skaerm
thinking of getting this, just to be sure if the ye olde screen should finally croak soon
it will have terrible bleed so be prepared for disappointment
I refuse to buy an OLED because of the degradation issue. As far as I'm concerned, it's overpriced planned-obsolescent goyslop that I would end up autistically babying whenever I use it. Black wallpaper, no icons, hidden taskbar, lowest brightness settings, constantly fearing that static UI elements are up for too long, etc. And I don't want to hear any OLEDfags try to tell me this isn't an issue just because they've had theirs for a year and haven't noticed any problems. My previous monitor lasted me a decade and I only switched because it made sense to go to 1440p/144hz. I ain't dropping a grand or more on some monitor that's going to go to rubbish in a few years max
It's definitely not a monitor for poorhomosexual peasants such as yourself
Spending money on something you don't need is nagger-tier. I can afford it, but I refuse to on principle. I'm not spending that much on a monitor that's going to have burn in issues soon after with normal use or require autistic babying
We get it, youre poor
there are desirable things in life that frugality doesn't always cover.
>I want to spend this 3-5 year portion of my life looking at a monitor that can properly display contrast
yes I would prefer not to reward disposable tech but
The monitor in the OP has a 3 year burn in warranty
Because I'm an fps autismo and bought a 240hz tn instead
give me a OLED, ultra wide, gsync, low refresh rate, and something that doesnt cost a arm or a leg
Theres some OLEDs creeping into 700-800€ territory this Black friday
just check dem sales yo
thats around 1300 dollarydoos mate. but Ill have a look around. totally forgot about Black friday too.
Which one Ganker?
>LG UltraGear 27GR95 27" OLED 799€
+flat
-16:9
>Samsung Odyssey G8 S34BG850S 34" OLED 879€
+ultrawide
-curved
I'm currently using an IPS UW and I'd go for the Samsung UW but I'm not too keen on curved monitors
g8 has much better brightness and colors
Because OLED sucks, at least for TVs.
I have that exact model, I love it. What really makes it sexy is how good the HDR is rather than just the OLED on its own. The SpecialK HDR retrofit makes neon lights in Yakuza so pretty.
>What the fuck is your excuse?
I prefer to play all my games without motion blur.
Im tired of this stupid fucking meme
I'm tired of today's "gaming" monitors being worse at displaying motion (one of the most important metrics for games unless you only care about "cinematic" slop) than monitors from 20+ years ago. That's the real meme, and manufacturers don't deserve to be excused for their laziness.
We look at games with our eyes, not through still photos taken of a screen by a camera, dumb ass chuddie
Those photos were taken with a long shutter and moving camera that emulates what our eyes see, albeit.
Now piss off, Samsung shill.
>laziness = being bound by physics and the way different processes display light
I guess we're all lazy.
>what is black frame insertion
*yawn* now show the BFI UFO
There isn't one because BFI on OLEDs is either shit or (in the case of every monitor currently on the market) nonexistent, since manufacturers literally don't give a shit about improving and/or including BFI.
There isn't a single good 4K OLED monitor. Why is it all ultra-wide bullshit at 1440p?
There is 4k 42" oled tvs
mostly because of qd oled being unfit for desktop work applications and uw restricting the market to mostly gamers
also who cares about 4k for gaming?
TVs aren't monitors. Ultrawide support sucks, I don't know why people use it. Every game has been built around 4K for half a decade.
>LGC2
Not a monitor, so no display port, and the subpixel structure doesn't do well with text.
>aw3423dwf
1440p ultrawide so not 4K.
> Every game has been built around 4K for half a decade.
What does this refer to, console resolution outputs?
You can output whatever on pc.
What are all the PC benchmarks at? 4K.
What do all of the PC game spec sheets target? 4K.
What are all 2D elements like UIs mastered at? 4K.
What is the entire reason why GPUs have all pivoted to upscaling? 4K.
4K is the target resolution of every modern game.
dude like 2.5% of steam hardware survey has 4k display
No one cares and those things dont matter
Because steams full of poorfags who havent updated their rigs in 19 years.
Ive got 1440p and 4k. Looking at both 4k is the only way now
except in games where you can get decent fps without a 4090 ofc
Its more how the graphics look now over fps for me. Im old so cant leep up with these morons on cod with slide cancel bollocks.
Right so you put on ray tracing for superior graphics, upscale it from 1080p to 1440p and have a good time
The C2 has a displayport
Not trying to sound like a shill, but LGC2 or the alienware aw3423dwf are both great OLEDS with very high refresh rates.
But I have a lg c1 65" one
I use two ACER monitors. Don't know what they are, but both are 1080p and least 60 FPS. I don't give a fuck about anything else.
I guess you're busy coping with irl issues instead of silly gaming stuff like high hz monitors
Yes actually. My computer chair is on its last legs and if it goes then it's going to be difficult to get a new one with food prices fucking me in the ass.
But even if I did, what's the point? I mean the LCD monitors I've got have lasted 6 years with 0 problems. I often walk through tech stores and while higher resolutions are neat I don't really see it as a justification. 720p to 1080p was a big leap for me, but 1440p or 4K isn't. I'd rather have the locked 60 FPS framerate.
high resolution is massively useful for productivity, less so games.
They still burn in. Only a retard would buy an oled for a monitor. Maybe for a TV.
I'm still using a plasma TV for my main setup in the living room. Looks fantastic and it doubles as a space heater during those cozy winter nights.
Basado
Does it buzz loudly at all?
nope, no noise. Although plasmas do give off a lot of RF interference which can mess with old analogue equipment from what I've heard, from what I understand. But I have my boomer tech like my CRTs for old game consoles and VCRs in a separate game room anyway.
Thoughts using this as a monitor?
>with alexa built in
If you dont mind 59hz and sitting 8 foot away from it then its fine
Careful because you need HDMI 2.1, because TVs haven't figured out displayport.
>because TVs haven't figured out displayport.
TV manufacturers understand DP, they just refuse to use it. Reason being HDMI supports DRM
OLED TVs aren't worth it especially as a PC monitor. You're just asking for burn in especially if you run Windows in HDR, and the brightness levels are mediocre unless you're in a pitch black room so any glare on the screen will make it hard viewing.
But I do OP
my BENQ is good enough
I have an oled tv
I have a benq Mobiuz IPS Monitor with 144hz 1ms gtg and mprt
I can't imagine for the life of me using a TN or VA panel in the year of 2023, the colours on them look like such trash compared to IPS
These days tn is solely for those 360-500hz displays meant for esports
VA has great colors and odyssey g6 is a great rec for a monitor these days
Then if you feel like VA is too low class you go to OLEd
IPS is dedicated to 4k work displays or something where you dont care about contrast or pixel response times
I have one but it shipped with a problem where when only one color is visible, there are gigantic lines going down the screen. Will be returning tomorrow
Once it's a stable tech, sure. For now I'm waiting on the delivery of a Viewsonic XG320Q. A 0.5ms 1440p W-LED is good enough for me. Right now I'm viewing through what basically can be summed up as ass. Can't wait.
my monitor has 56 edge local dimming zones which is enough to prevent IPS glow so I'm good for the next 6 years. You OLED fuckers are going to replace your monitors & TV's every other year guaranteed because of burn in.
Why would I want OLED? I went to a shop and saw it side by side, and I can't tell the difference.
400 nits is not HDR
Should I pony up for OPs oled or buy this monitor bros?
I game on pc but also do video editing
I have an LG C1 oled in my living room
I'm not happy with the burn-in risk, nor the premium price, and I don't want a curved screen neither. There's some promising flat panels coming out soon, but I don't think I want to pay the asking price. I got a M28U last year and I'll probably stick with that for a few years still
I want an OLED but I plan on doing a lot of work as well as gaming on my desktop so I can't justify it. It will 100% burn in with all the static stuff I leave on screen. Do people really buy a high end desktop and only use it for gaming and nothing else?
Do people really buy a high end desktop and only use it for gaming and nothing else?
Many many people have dual monitor setups, so its not that out of the box to go having 1 oled and 1 ips display and use them for different stuff
What other things could they be using it for? I use my PC for gaming and general browsing or video watching. I do zero work on my PC because I don't work from home and have no reason to perform work on it. I don't stream either, but I guess you could use one for gaming, streaming, and entertainment and then use one for work or other stuff. I'd obviously want to use the better monitor for generally everything though as things would look better on it.
I do work from home but I work for a large hospital system so I have to use a separate desktop they gave me. Thankfully I have a massive L-shaped desk in my office that fits both PCs
>We can't sell you monitors and tv's for thousands of dollars anymore so here's OLED, 8K, 16K, etc.
OLED and HDR are genuine features in a market that has been been alternating incremental upgrades and downgrades of the same technology for like two decades.
No the TV market is actually a good market with nice upgrades every year but the actual tech progression is slow so the upgrades year over year aren't huge but nice enough regardless.
There's a pathetically small difference in picture-quality between the average LCD TV from now and 15+ years ago. If you have a high-end model with FALD and good HDR, then sure, but those are way more expensive than a run-of-the mill OLED, which was a huge leap.
That's not true at all. TV are more colour accurate than ever, have a wider colour gamut than ever, have better processing than ever, better motion, better uniformity, contrast, brightness, response times, audio passthrough support etc. OLED isn't anything special and LCD still trumps it in many ways. OLED is the successor to plasma which was inherently a flawed tech due to organic material deterioration which OLED also suffers from. LCD will always be the front runner technology which is why the next big leap in TV tech is microLED which has all the benefits of LCD and OLED in one package.
They're better but not what you'd expect from that timespan. Most of those are details that were available before as well, they were just too stupid/cheap to implement them (like having proper 24fps playback without 60Hz stuttering.) The pathetic old tech is largely the same, except for the most expensive models as I said, and even then it's all crutches and duct tape.
>better processing
>OLED isn't anything special
Don't make me laugh, anyone's who's had to suffer a LCD with garbage local dimming (which again, has been the vast majority below the top-end) knows this is absolutely false.
A bad implementation of a technology doesn't make the technology itself bad. Most low end TVs don't have FALD but there aren't any OLEDs which compete at these low prices anyway so that's a moot point. Some midrange TVs have FALD depending on the company (like Hisense but unlike Samsung) but again OLEDs don't compete at these price points which is why even LG themselves nanocell TVs at these price points. OLED is at the top end and most of what it competes against is arguably better for the money depending on which way you look at it. Sure in a pitch black room displaying a scene of stars against the darkness of the sky an OLED would look noticeably better in a side by side, but that isn't a realistic viewing condition for the vast majority of people. If you want to talk about tech which hasn't improved in 15 years well then talk about OLED brightness which is inherently limited to piss poor levels between 150-300 nits full screen because of circuitry limitations. LCD doesn't have this problem. And even mid range LCD TVs get brighter than that. Then there's other limitations such as VRR flicker which is another inherent limitation of OLED tech which LCD has already solved. Or the fact even the most cutting edge OLEDs today such as Samsungs flagship QD-OLEDs decrease the brightness of the picture over time due to aforementioned circuitry limitations. When it comes to OLED for every benefit it has it also has a bunch of shortcomings.
I'm sick of buying things I don't really need.
Post your gaming monitor and let other anons judge you.
I don't have an OLED 🙁
judge me, I upgraded my old 32 inch VA panel to this one, so I have dual 32 inch 1440p monitors. i really like it
I have that one as well. It's fantatastic.
thanks, my only gripe with this monitor is it has a weird firmware bug where it will set your fullscreen applications to 120fps because it has a seperate "4k 120" mode for ps5 consoles. the way to fix this if you own the LG GQ850-B is to delete the 4k resolution entries using Custom Resolution Utility, or playing in borderless.
It's less of a firmware issue, but the games having sloppy defaults. Like Souls games only supporting 60Hz. Borderless fixes it though yes.
Ultragear has always been a little overpriced imo, but LG can generally charge that much because their nano ips panels are the best ips panels. You also had to pay the official gsync tax on top of that. Price aside, it’s a solid monitor you have, anon.
My Acer monitors left side from the middle sometimes gets red lines going along the top to the bottom when trying to display darker pixels and I have to hit the monitor on the back where the Displayport is to make it stop.
My Philips takes like 8+ minutes to start up and flashes like a broken light-bulb with set intervals before it does then works completely fine..
uhhh based. I'm using the exact same monitor and its alright. Stand was annoying but I put it on an arm. Recommended it to a friend and he likes it. Recommended another monitor with the same panel, some LG monitor, to a friend and he enjoys the quality panel. the lack of dark blacks becomes really apparent in resident evil games being dark gray but this is what we signed up for with lower mid range IPS.
>input lag
>burn in
>input lag
>classics looking like shit
>input lag
No thanks, I'll stick with my CRT.
I use the smallest version of the C2 LG OLED TV, it has GSYNC and true 120HZ refresh rate. Superior than any other monitor out there for gaming.
i'm poor 🙁
I have two monitors. One is a 27" 4k/60hz IPS, for normal tasks, and that uses integrated graphics.
For video games, movies, and shows, I have a 42" LG C2 off to the side that the GPU is plugged into. It's off unless I'm using it. This is the best way to go about it at this point to never worry about burn-in. i've had zero issues after 3 years. I highly recommend this approach. Honey Select 2 looks great in 4k/120 HDR.
interesting, was thinking about getting a second monitor as well. my cpu has a integrated gpu as well, maybe i will try this out one day.
That's great, but I made it up. I use a 11.6" 1366x768 chromebook, and I fantasize about spending $3,000 on a nice setup like that, through posting lies on here.
You play Honey Select 2 at 768p?
No, I can't even run it on this. It's ARM and ChromeOS. I'm debating what to build for HS2, though, and I can't really decide on what kind of monitor spec I want to build for. People say 4K is a meme. People say 144Hz is a meme. I don't know what to do short of buying a prebuilt and a 4k/144hz monitor to mess with the settings and see for myself what's worth it and what isn't, and then returning all of that, and building what I want.
I used you for my own gain. It's probably a good solution, though. If I were to decide to spend that much, that'd be the setup I'd choose.
4K/144 is the endgame.
16k/30khz is the endgame.
ok nevermind then, you lying bad anon. 🙁
>mfw have 215 bucks ready to help pay for the oled LE tomorrow
feelsgood
fuck wrong thread this is not steam deck thread
the hdr oled is supposed to be a good display tho
crt > everything else
worth getting at half off?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BW1VM62Y/ref=twister_B0C3VRH58B?th=1
bad response time
and BGR instead of RGB
The only game that benefits from OLED monitors is Doom 3
screen burn in is not acceptable
Money
I'm a drunk and I pass out with the same image on all the time. Burn in is a real threat to me.
I'm poor and I need to feed my family
Don't need one.
>OLED
>what is PWM
I want to have my eyes intact. Only chinks cares about this shit
But I do!
I was always curious why all those epic gaming monitors have bad colors? I mean look at monitors for artists. They have best color accuracy and you need to use calibration tool (physical) for best results. But no expensive gaming monitor show you "stats" important for color accuracy.
4k/144 is all anybody needs
and that is attainable in how many games made past 2020? No DLSS cheating
works in call of duty
Honey Select 3 isn't out yet, so I don't see how that's relevent.
a lot of modern anime games like Elden Ring, Tales of Arise, Scarlet Nexus, Armored Core, Baldurs Gate 3, etc are super easy to run in 4K. You don't need AAA slop that uses raytracing to get use out of a 4k monitor.
in most, actually.
>have display technology with burn in
>use it for displaying mostly static UIs
Are you fucking retarded?
And the other joke is not supporting cleartpye.
don't feel like paying two thousand dollars for the privilege of getting burn-in.
>curved
What are you, sticking your fucking head in there? 48" 120hz flat OLED monitor for the living room all the way. 800 brand new.
Grabbed one of these 6 months ago for just under $500, well worth it. A screen the same size and half the resolution but with le burn in OLED is like $1100+ still
Can you actually run games at a solid 4k/144? I'm asking sincerely. What did you upgrade from? I'm trying to decide if I should build for 4k/144 or if it's a not a good idea yet.
I had a 1440p 144hz TN panel that I turned into a vertical side monitor. The difference in resolution from 4K as well as color depth/accuracy and wide viewing angles from IPS made a big difference. I have an RTX 3080, I can play games like BF1 era and older at native 4K/ultra and can push the refresh rate at times, obviously newest high fidelity stuff still has to have a more realistic target of 60 and that’s with using DLSS if you want to run RT and all that shite
Damn. This is why I hesitate. I don't know if i want to put $900-$1,600 into a 7900XTX or 4090 to fully utilize it, but I also feel like I'd be futuerproofing by just buying it all now instead of waiting for like the 8900XTX or 5090 in 2025.
>normalfag comes to Ganker
>p-please consume!
>gets laughed at.
Couldn't be me.
I like OLEDs, but they all burn in so easily even the high end ones.
I've had an oled tv for almost 2 years now, no burn in. It's nice but I wish they made monitor sized qd oleds that aren't ultrashort garbage.
Is there such a thing as too much dpi?
In theory a 24 qhd monitor should btfo every other similar specced 27/32 one
Yes. Going beyond 300PPI is generally accepted to be of no benefit, only a waste of resources.
Yes but even the best monitors won't be able to reach that because everything gets scaled. 4k at 27 inches is like 160ppi or something. 4k at 32 inches is even less than that. anyway typically this is how it goes 1080p is best for 24in monitors, 1440p for 27, and 4k for 32. 4k on 24 you'd have to scale that to 200% to be usable otherwise shit will look ultra tiny. and vice versa
>just replace your monitor every 2 years bro
That monitor has a 3 year burn-in warranty
If I'm getting a new monitor I want it to last me 10 years, at least.
>I want to stay with an ancient monitor because I'm too poor
Yes.
However, assuming OLEDs were actually durable, would you still get a new one every 3 years?
I would get a new one every year just because of how FAST they're evolving.
At point this, even the Alienware QD-OLED is ancient compared to next year's offerings. We'll get 4k/240hz and 1440p/360hz displays!
Also, LG has already confirmed that a DFR display is in the works, enabling it to do both 4k/240hz, and 1080p/480hz.
STOP MAKING FUCKING CURVED SCREENS
I never understood high refresh rate autism
This. 60hz is fine. I noticed a difference dropping from 144hz to 60hz but it was marginal. Growing up playing console vidya at 30fps I feel blessed with 100hz, and I'd be happy with 60hz, I liked 144hz but I don't miss it. 200+ is autism.
60hz is a shit number. It stutters on nearly every type of video there is. Doesn't fit into 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 59.94. 120hz fits more of these but any higher refresh rate makes the judder less visible.
i got 144hz but always stick it at 100 or 120hz now because its kind of a waste of gpu power. VRR is really the thing that makes the difference
What does VRR do?
I might be wrong but I think your refresh rate will always match the framerate of the game so there is no tearing and it always feels smooth so even if there are fps dips you don't really notice.
it wouldn't mean it's always smooth. it just removes screen tearing.
>it wouldn't mean it's always smooth. it just removes screen tearing.
ah okay. My monitor has it but then why not just use vsync it that point? IS it purely for better input latency?
It's so you don't need to have an FPS above the refresh rate. You simply never have screen tearing.
I would definitely get burn in since I keep my monitor on for +12 hours a day right? And most of the time I have my browser open.
yes, you'd fuck yourself over using it for web browsing much faster than someone who only uses it for media, even with full brightness and HDR
your monitor being on doesn't really matter as long as the old hide taskbar black wallpaper shit is being done, but a browser being on it constantly won't end well
Well I'm happy with my dell ultrawide (S3422DWG). Really nice monitor. It's VA but there is no "smearing" as some VAs have. Contrast is good and can get the colors really good if you make your own color profile
No 4k options, expensive, new technology that probably still needs some improving on the part of manufacturers, at least a little bit. Being an early adopter is for suckers.
Being a poorfag is for suckers
So like is the steam deck's screen a big deal? How much is an oled screen with hdr? Is it baby's first oled? Or top of the line?
What is OLED? Sell me on the technology.
Have you ever heard the term "contrived durability"?
>OLED don't Cr-ACKKKKKKK
SIR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
I'm poor
are curved monitors a meme? I can get this for $1k open box... and I could sell my two monitors I have to get like 200-400 back.
If they're big, no. Having a flat, huge panel makes it difficult to keep everything in your field of view. That being said, I would not buy a fucking 45" monitor, curved or not.
There really isn't that much difference between curved or flat screens. I use both regularly.
>I would not buy a fucking 45" monitor
coward
34" is enough for me.
I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, but they might as well go to reddit for that.
I don't really think they post here but I find it funny to imagine its them whenever I see posts about how great raytracing is or how amazing dlss is. Just sounds like DF shilling on their channel distilled into a post
I personally would argue it's a big plus for ultrawides but for anything else it's a meme
with that said, if you're concerned enough about price to risk open box on an oled and sell your old monitors, do not get it
>sell my two monitors
is it ultrawide? whats even the res on that thing? Its great for desktop use but the aspect ratio can be a pain in the ass for some games. Even on 21:9 I sometimes have to put up with pillarboxes
>whats even the res on that thing?
I think it's 3440x1440.
>3440x1440p on a 45 inch screen
yikes
Don't sell your current monitors.
burn in