>here's your first gym leader bro

>here's your first gym leader bro
Difficulty hacks were a mistake

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >roost x6
    For what purpose

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ask Ragni, Polished Crystal does this shit but mercifully only gives Falkner three Pokemon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gym Leaders have a signature move and that move is whichever TM they give you upon defeat. For Falkner in HGSS, it's Roost, so with this difficulty hack, all of his Pokémon have it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sacred gold storm silver is too hard for me
    lol

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No hack from over a decade ago is tough.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not over the top on items, levels are fine for first gym, so what's your problem with it exactly?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No over the top items
      Ah yes nothing over the top in getting your geodude oneshotted by a surprise insta solar beam.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this dumb nagger sees a pokemon taking in sunlight and leaves in her geodude lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Power Herb lets the move skip charging, retard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still not hard to predict beforehand, especially if you play with docs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >playing with walkthroughs
              >defending out-of.nowhere bullshit because "it tells you in the walkthrough"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I personally don't, but you literally get all the docs when you download the patch. You're complaining about one gotcha that's easy to predict after you fall for it once. If that's seriously too much for you, play something else.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >playing with docs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >gets you once
            >reset if you're that much of a fag
            >switch out next time
            wow, so hard...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ah yes nothing over the top in getting your geodude oneshotted by a surprise insta solar beam.
        Kek, complaining about a power herb being op on npc team, you are a one of a kind retard.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He picks Geodude

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WAAAAAH I WANT DIFFICULTY
    >WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT

    it's funny how DSfags only pretend they want challenging games then the second they have a chance of actually losing they start pissing their pants

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a DSfag and i love Clover, now what

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about op sets I'm just tired of teams of 6 at the start, please be a little realistic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is nothing stopping you from using a team of 6 yourself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If he had team of three, would you only use three pokemon yourself?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do this. And it makes Chuck quite challenging.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So unrealistic for a gym leader to have 6 pokemon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's unrealistic because gay freak doesn't do it
        lol

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My God, what a soulless team.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm bad so the games should be dogshit easy!!!
    Cry about it, homosexual

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every road is so crammed with pokemon that getting something as basic as a female caterpie takes half an hour
    Wow, so based...

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What hack is this and why did you calling it shit make so many autists come out of the woodwork?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read the thread. Difficulty hacks will always trigger explorefags and Game Freak apologists.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because without a human opponent a 'hard' pokemon battle in a difficulty hack is essentially autistically brute forcing solutions till something works.
        To each their own but I've wondered why people who want difficulty hacks just don't play online instead.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think difficulty hacks and comp are mutually exclusive?

          >retard can't answer why on vp
          Classic.

          Open up:

          >sacred gold storm silver is too hard for me
          lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he still doesn't know what why means
            Stop having autism by killing yourself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >explained why
              >no u
              you're the autistic one here m8

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retard can't answer why on vp
        Classic.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Difficulty hacks giving the first gym leader 6 mons are fucking stupid, because the PLAYER probably can’t even catch 6 pokemon at that point.
    When the first gym has the same number of pokemon as the last the difficulty ends up peaking WAY too early and then gradually DECLINING as the number of pokemon you have at your disposal reaches parity with the gym leader’s.
    A good game should gradually ramp UP in difficulty, peaking at the end with a final
    boss/boss rush. It’s not so much the difficulty I have an issue with but the bullshit timing.
    Gym 1 should have 3 pokemon
    Gyms 2-3 should have 4
    Gyms 4-6 should have 5
    Gyms 7-8 should have 6

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > because the PLAYER probably can’t even catch 6 pokemon
      how is that relevant

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it makes the first gym the hardest, which ruins the pacing and difficulty slope.
        If the player is constantly catching new mons and boosting their team, gradually going from just their starter to a full 6, while the gym leaders are always at 6 mons each, then the first gym leader will be the hardest because of their numerical advantage in pokemon over the player, while the last gym is the easiest because the player has had time to catch many different pokemon and give them good movesets. Basically the player is constantly increasing in strength while the gym leaders aren’t (aside from higher levels) which creates a reversed difficulty curve.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Because it makes the first gym the hardest,
          this is already the case in every pokemon game

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lying piece of shit have a nice day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Which game is the first gym not the hardest? Past the first gym you have so many fucking tools and options and overleveling from the number of trainers it’s impossible to lose.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of them. Stop being such a disingenuous homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wattson in emerald if you didn't pick mudkip is the only one i can think of

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >wattson in emerald
                ???

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fire type named sear
                Hahahaha holy homosexualoli

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >level 33
                thanks for proving my point

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your point that…the gym is impossible to lose against because of how hard the game overlevels you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think his point is that you play in an autistic loser fashion and aren't worth listening to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You aren't reaching level 33 even if you battle every trainer. Disingenuous homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You aren't reaching level 33 even if you battle every trainer

                I think his point is that you play in an autistic loser fashion and aren't worth listening to.

                >you aren't worth listening to because you actually played the game and ruined my narrative
                uh...ok?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you can only talk to your own greentext you can just stick to your diary.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not talking to my own greentext. I'm talking to you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're talking to me by making up your own quotes and responding to them? Okay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not making up my own quotes. I'm referencing what you said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What is refenercing what I'm said? The greentext that isn't related to what I said at all? Please have a nice day.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The greentext that isn't related to what I said at all?
                It's very much related to what you said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then why don't you respond to what I say instead of responding to your greentext? I repeat, please have a nice day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Then why don't you respond to what I say
                I did.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you aren't worth listening to because you actually played the game and ruined my narrative
                Show me where I said that before you made it up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Show me where I said that

                I think his point is that you play in an autistic loser fashion and aren't worth listening to.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Illiterate ESL jajaja you are a monkey that lives in the jungle with other ESL monkeys. have a nice day favela dweller.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Difficulty hacks always have a huge variety of Pokemon in the early game, so it's very easy to catch 6 different mons. Gym leaders already improve their teams with better Pokemon, better moves, and better items, which is far better than spamming essentially the same mon 3 times like in vanilla games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're completely right even if the retards here don't agree, but it goes deeper than that. Difficulty isn't an excuse for bad balance or design. Gradually increasing the amount of pokemon trainers/gyms have is a very clear design choice, meant to make sure you take your time to build your team over the course of the game. Stuffing the encounter tables isn't a good solution either. It's completely natural and intended that the early game is populated by shitmons, which gradually opens up with specific areas having unique pokemon, and a lot of good pokemon only existing in one area (sometimes with a very low encounter rate). It throws off the balance of the game to pack the tables because you're either making exploration and going to new routes pointless by turning them into near identical exp pools, or (when you combine with the 6 pokemon teams early on) you're just making the player get random temporary pokemon that they don't even give a shit about, only to throw it away once they find something they actually want to use.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >meant to make sure you take your time to build your team over the course of the game
        you realize pokemon games let you use more than 6 pokemon, right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bad balance or design
          Stopped reading there.

          further proof that the people who defend difficulty hacks are braindead

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn’t understand how pokemon games work
            >starts crying when hack expects you to know how pokemon games work
            I’m guessing you also whine about no exp share toggle right?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >doesn’t understand how pokemon games work
              Neither do you if you're defending those approaches.
              What's YOUR ROM Hack kiddo?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Boomers and millennials value "exploration" and grinding more than anything else and consider them good """game design.""" Nothing to see here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Exploration is bad.
                Thats... one of the pillars of what makes a decent Pokemon game. It doesn't matter if it values it more or less than battles, but both need to work to ensure a fun experience.
                Difficulty hacks usually fail on both of those pillars. Now call me a homosexual while you piss your diapers because I insulted your favorite difficulty hack that you only like because some shitty influencer told you so.
                Fucking zoomer.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why does every pants-on-head retarded opinion on this board seem to come from the same few people?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like them. When someone mentions exp share, the complaining only comes from the grinders, so you can ignore everything they have to say about difficulty.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't get it, dude. Early game has to be shit because that makes it feel like Pokemon, then you stop exploring when you have 6 Pokemon by the 3rd gym.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bad balance or design
        Stopped reading there.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1 johtomon
    >3 from KANTOOOOOOO

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chatot? That's a shitmon, ZU IIRC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based I only use non shitmon that the smogon OU council allows. That makes me good. Fucking homosexual.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They wouldn't be so bad if 99% of them weren't made in less than an hour by idiots who don't know the first thing about game design.
    But gotta get that dopamine hit, hoping for the rare chance a Youtuber plays it and calls it the "best hack ever made", even though that's the only ROM Hack thr Youtuber has played or seen in his life.
    I hate how things have gotten. Please put effort, thought and passion in your hacks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >game design
      there's that meaningless buzzword again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a buzzword, it's a crucial part of game development. Projects always have people in the role of "game designer".
        Or are you upset because you're part of the 99% I was talking about?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no because naggers like you spout it in a meaningless way and have zero credibility on it in the professional world like the 99%

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because it's obvious that 99% of these hacks are done by people who are just fucking around with numbers and species and no extra thought.
            Now go ahead anon, tell me about your amazing difficulty hack.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i don't make them, i play them, and most of the time, they're fine. most of them go through pretty extensive testing too. i don't know what's up your ass, but if difficulty isn't your thing, play something else

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Post your work, homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A bit cliche, but you don't have to be a chef to know a dish tastes like shit.
                Sorry I hurt your feelings, I know you difficulty "authors" are the most sensitive sissies out there.
                I know you think you're hot shit for finding a ROM, finding a program to change Pokemon teams and playing around with it for an hour. But maybe you should take a step back and consider that you're not that great and did something anyone in the entire world is capable of doing if they felt like it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Projects always have people in the role of "game designer".
          Post a project where that was your role.
          >Or are you upset because you're part of the 99% I was talking about?
          The ironing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't game design because I know I'm not good at it. I don't waste people's time flooding the database of ROM Hacks with shit like most people do.
            Most earlier ROM hacks were made out of passion. Now there's just too many made by idiots in an hour hoping a Youtuber will acknowledge they exist.
            What is the name of your ROM hack?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >no u
              Good one. I don't need to make hacks to know that you're a seething no talent homosexual.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But I already told you I have no talent in game design you fucking idiot, and even then I can get my head out of my ass and notice these patterns with these hacks again and again and that they're not worth playing.
                And if you're playing only them, you're missing out on much better ROM hacks that some people have spent years developing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And if you're playing only them, you're missing out on much better ROM hacks that some people have spent years developing.
                I don't give a fuck about any of your homosexual hacks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already said I didn't make any hacks.
                Learn proper reading comprehension you fucking drooling idiot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please stop responding to game design nagger, she shits up these threads every time because other people have fun with something she can't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What exactly about it is fun?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You wouldn't understand.

                Then just play the real games like a normal person, goddamn
                How would you even encounter this shit if you weren't actively seeking it out

                Pretty sure it's just one fag who looks at the docs and posts teams here with no context.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you clearly don't understand either.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mad at the easiest drayano hack
    Bro just pick jolteon or glaceon and spam stab

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the people who make and play difficulty hacks and defend them on /vp/ are hyper-autists who cannot understand the perspective of someone who hasn't memorized every single aspect of the game and how to optimize it.
    there's a reason game devs aren't the ones to playtest their own game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cannot understand the perspective of someone who hasn't memorized every single aspect of the game and how to optimize it.
      You are giving them WAY too much credit here. The majority of these hacks have no thought in them.
      It's literally a desperate plea for validation from a Let's Player and nothing more.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh, and also "just do X' is a shitty response to complaints. RPGs are not puzzle games, there shouldn't be rigid solutions. especially not in a series as broad and with as much a focus on customizability as pokemon.
    for a group that plays nothing but pokemon, pokemon fans are really bad at making a game that feels like pokemon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemon is a puzzle game disguised as a rpg. Just like fire emblem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're a retard disguised as another, even dumber retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PLEEEAAASE LET ME JUST MINDLESSLY MASH A I DONT WANT TO THINK

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i accept your concession

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why give options if all of them need to be functionally identical, thus making it an illusion of choice?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i never said that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know this is bait, but it's funny how wrong it is. There's so many renowned RPGs that obviously have rigid solutions for bosses they're pushing you to take. I played Chrono Trigger and FF6 (both of which have some team customization) for the first time recently and most of the bosses were like that. Sometimes they even leave notes around or NPC dialogue to hint at a specific strategy, or they say it straight up in text boxes during the battle. With Pokemon, because there's far more customizability, Game Freak chose to cater to the worst possible teams, giving the series its piss easy children's game status and, surprise, some people want more.

      The ironic thing about this is that pretty much all single player games at the highest level turn into a puzzle game, whether it be self imposed challenges, speedruns, or scoreruns. Shmups, rhythm games, racing games etc. require some very intense routing to truly excel in, which takes problem solving skills. I'm quite sure difficulty hacks are meant to be part of that category, not to make them feel like regular Pokemon. If you don't like that, then as others said, play something else.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then just play the real games like a normal person, goddamn
    How would you even encounter this shit if you weren't actively seeking it out

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who likes difficulty hacks is underage and shouldn't be posting here.
    I await your replies that only reinforce what I said.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm overage and I should be posting here.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only two real issues with that team are everything having Roost and the Mental Herb + Solar Beam Swablu. Romhack teams are usually a LOT worse than that, with every Pokemon having endgame movesets with a bunch of coverage moves.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like how Crystal Legacy does it more. Pidgey and Noctowl have mudslap if you try to use the usual strategy of Geodude. Noctowl is also pretty bulky and fast at this early point so it definitely not dying to 2 or 3 thundershocks, especially with it's berry. Your electric options are pretty weak at this point too; Mareep and Pichu. He's not super hard but not a push over. Good 1st gym challenge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Noctowl fits better for him anyway. Dark Cave gives you Larvitar too. I enjoyed Crystal Legacy and most of its changes, but it isn't a difficulty hack.

      >Exploration is bad.
      Thats... one of the pillars of what makes a decent Pokemon game. It doesn't matter if it values it more or less than battles, but both need to work to ensure a fun experience.
      Difficulty hacks usually fail on both of those pillars. Now call me a homosexual while you piss your diapers because I insulted your favorite difficulty hack that you only like because some shitty influencer told you so.
      Fucking zoomer.

      >both need to work to ensure a fun experience
      Never cared much for exploration. I consider Stadium 1 and 2 to be the best official games.

      >Difficulty hacks usually fail on both of those pillars
      Completely wrong. You don't play them, so you have zero authority to speak about them. It's bedtime for you, boomer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I played them until I realized that most had the same problems over and over, because the people making them have no idea what they're doing.
        In fact, you don't even know why you like the hacks you're viciously defending, as evidenced by

        What exactly about it is fun?

        You wouldn't understand.

        [...]
        Pretty sure it's just one fag who looks at the docs and posts teams here with no context.

        The problem here is, you are either incapable of afraid of thinking for yourself and just go with whatever WeavileBadass69420 says, because you want to feel validated. All you can do is call people names and be a sarcastic cunt that doesn't engage any actual conversation with people who want to discuss what works and what doesn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So no argument, like usual. Stick to the games you grew up with and I'll go back to CK+ E4R2, grandpa.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing to argue with if you're going to get triggered over the phrase "game design" in other peoples explanations.
            Also, more being a sarcastic cunt as usual.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    skill issue

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >send in geodude
    >get a hit in, likely one shot or almost one shot
    >they use roost
    >swap to something that knows fighting type moves
    >finish them off

    like zoinks scoob, while it's excessive it doesnt require the kind of shit more infamous romhacks demand

    It's shit no matter what though, I agree wholeheartedly

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