How are they going to handle it?

How are they going to handle it?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hope they hire on all the sfm 3d coom artists to give it to us in full detail

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hydrafxx animates the scene

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hydrafxx animates the scene


      Yeah, I'm thinking the remake is based after all

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3D Tifa porn can't beat THAT Tifa sce-

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they didn't have sex, they just cuddled and talked about their feelings

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good. She needs to remain pure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, that way Reno can take her virginity in my post-game fanfic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reno's a closeted twink.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >closeted

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Doesn't he pretend to have a thing for Tifa, or is that baldy?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's Rude. There even a mechanic in the OG where he'll avoid attacking Tifa if she's in the party.

                The remake also has this, but they changed it so he won't attack either Tifa OR Aerith. He also stopped Reno from shooting her with the helicopter at one point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Right, right. They're both still gays.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They fucked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no they didnt

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tifa asked if everyone was watching. They're not going to watch cuddling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They explicitly didn't talk. One of the Ultimanias describes how they confirm their feelings match without using words.
      Tifa is asking to get fucked in the Highwind scene, man.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is also a interview with those devs where they talk with the dude who wrote that scene something like
        "Hey, can we even put this in the game?"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do we have other jrpgs before FF7 where the main characters fuck? i can only remember xenogears
          Bahamut lagoon too, but that one is for ntr chads

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty sure Celes fucked Interceptor in FF6.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'll have to be more specific about what exactly your question is asking.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It happens in the story with his party member, or in a timeskip?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With Bianca after getting married go back to his father old inn and she will ask to come over to your bed.
                Dunno about Flora/Nera and Deborah.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NTR
            >Chads
            Pffffffthahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Good one dude

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It is art

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She was a prostitute
            She had sex with thousands of men
            She kills her sisters and takes their boyfriends away and fucks all of them throughout the game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was more than a decade after ff7 tho

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lufia II

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lunar

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, originally it was going to be Cloud and Tifa walking out of the Chocobo stable area.
          And I think there was a relatively recent interview with some devs, where they discuss Tifa's line as something the audience may not have understood if they played it when they were young.
          The denial is really funny because it's clear what the devs meant, it's always been obvious, and much like everything in Remake its going to be far less subtle when it comes up again. I don't think it'll be explicit, but with Sakurai and and Ito voice acting it, and the characters showing detailed expressions and gestures, nobody will be confused.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is something nojima talked about
            There is something really unique about the way those old jrpgs were made and how their dialogue worked, this is why there is so many elements of FF7 that are subjective 26 years later
            And when they started the 7R project nojima knew that when you add expressions and change the dialogue to make scenes in a more natural way, this subjective part vanishes and many misteries disappear
            So many people could end up disappointed by having their theories or headcanons destroyed with this new project

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He knows how there is a lot of people who discuss about who is in charge, sephiroth or jenova?
              And remake will totally answer this, making some people sad

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If there is something that i think they did really well in remake is the whole aerith - cloud - tifa relationship
              They make it really subtle in a way that you doubt if aerith likes cloud as a friend or lover

              But I doubt they will continue pushing the cloud and aerith thing because they are pushing zack too much in this story

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              About this cloud - tifa converstation it made me remember this post
              People intepret this story in such different ways

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Japan. They played rock paper scissors.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          uWu

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You act like SE survives that long for part 3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't fought this dude yet. Is he difficult?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is gimmick fight. You need to learn how to dodge his named attacks.
          Find the good setup and you can burst him in one Staggered like webm related

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a bit rusty but I have two days off so maybe I'll give him a shot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please link mods!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How the actual fuck are you doing that much dmg? I legit can't do the final boss fight after the end of the game where you have to go fight the omega summons or whatever in VR

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is the tit mod

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is some freaks that can kill weiss only with aerith in 2 minutes
          Some insane shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            OIh shiddd stop works on Shiva!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck you purity moron, they fucked. They fucked Raw. They fucked till cooze slipped out Tifa's cunt and down her thigh, and then Cloud licked it all up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. Tifa gets embarrassed the next day and asks if the others were watching (assuming her affection level is high enough, otherwise she just asks if they were listening).
      2. The devs originally planned to make it more explicit, with the pair sneaking out of the chocobo stables the morning after.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not, they're not going to follow most of the original story beats in the remake since the fans are dead now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yoshinori Kitase explained that FF7 Rebirth has a considerable amount of content and will not heavily deviate from the original game, nor destroy the original game's image.
      >Yoshinori Kitase: "The game does not heavily deviate from the original, and will procure you the same feelings as the original. The Midgar we made in Final Fantasy 7 Remake was a result of trying to make it satisfying for fans of the original. In the same way, FF7 Rebirth will not break the image of the original so dear to fans. And to that end, it's quite a massive game."

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How has it not destroyed the game's image by having a sephiroth fight in midgar and having zack not die?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The original game is still the original game. I'm glad they're doing something different. Makes the wait more exciting because you don't know exactly what's going to happen.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's fine, but the guy I was replying to was trying to say that they're going to do the same thing as the original when they already can't do that anymore.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They are. Maybe not literally every little thing, but the major plot points will still be there. They're still going to chase Sephiroth to most of, if not all of, the same places. Dyne and the desert prison will still happen. Mideel will still happen. All those things can still happen but the outcome could be slightly different in some way, like Biggs surviving in part 1. We don't even know when Zack will be a factor in anything. He could be a side-story in part 2 for all we know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wtf are you talking about. Bringing Zack back is a huge deviation on top of all the other shit they already did. It's total cope saying these are minor things and the rest will be faithful. It's literally impossible to unring the bell. It's only going to go further off the rails and you know it. You may pretend to like it and make more excuses but you will know deep down it's a disaster of a story with coombait.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zack is in another timeline or some shit. You literally see him walk past everyone and neither of them see each other. As far as the main characters are concerned their path is the same path they took in the original game. It could be the end of part 3 before they actually encounter each other.

                And I do like it. I think the original 7 is overrated, though still a great game. I just don't put it on some pedestal and whine like a baby because they're "ruining" it. Go play your PS1 version and leave everyone else alone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People were asking for years for a remake. No one was asking for a what-if remix story. It isn't what most people wanted.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they're getting their hi-res Midgar. They're getting their hi-res motorcycle sequence. They're going to get their hi-res Northern Crater. Hi-res Golden Saucer. Hi-res Nibelheim incident. I guarantee you the trilogy will still end with Cloud slicing and dicing Sephiroth in the lifestream.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People
                retarded normalfags*
                they're the only ones who beg for remakes instead of playing the original game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zack is dead you fools hes travelling the lifestream searching for aerith to say goodbye

                >He doesn't know about Intergrade's ending

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't just Biggs, Wedge and Jessie made it too. It's going to be very different.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nta but i dont even think that fighting sephirot by the end of remake changes things that much, also, we never fight sephiroth as a "human" in the original FF7
              Only when he starts becoming fucked up

              If there is a thing that changes things more is zack being alive

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nta but i dont even think that fighting sephirot by the end of remake changes things that much, also, we never fight sephiroth as a "human" in the original FF7
                huh, this is something i didnt think about

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It changes the build for the most important character arc in the game, Cloud. His arc is basically as important as the planet saving since they are so intertwined. But they've already ruined clouds arc in the first game so I don't know how they are gonna salvage this. They should just drop all pretense and change everything. Make Zack fuck Tifa on Clouds grave. That atleast would be funny.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One question, can you explain why you think that cloud's arc is destroyed?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Arcs need build. Not to be given away before they start. It's not an arc then. It's

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Besides hojo hinting about cloud's arc to the player there is nothing that ruined his character arc in game yet in my opinion
                This is why i really dont get what do you mean

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is his arc any different so far in Remake? He's on his way to Kalm with the exact same objective as the original game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But they were supposed to take a dated game that many people won't want to play and redo it for a new generation, you know, what people expect when they hear remake and loads of other games have done. Instead they made a remake that will require new fans to go back and play the original anyway because it's practically fan fiction at this point

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They weren't "supposed" to do anything. They can remake the game however they want, and that includes adding things. The people who want to see all those important moments from the original game in modern graphics are going to get that. In that sense it is a remake.

              And where's the fan fiction so far? They're currently on their way to Kalm, searching for Sephiroth and trying to stop him. Just like the original game. All the added stuff is inconsequential at this point. The time ghosts didn't do anything that makes it impossible for the original game to happen. Zack hasn't done anything to that effect either. Even Future Sephiroth hasn't made the original game's overall plot an impossibility. Yeah, it's not a 1 for 1 remake, but all the iconic scenes you remember are going to be there. You guys can say that Zack being alive means this or that from the original game can't happen, but he hasn't done anything to make that true, and might not at all. You can say Future Sephiroth showing up and fighting the party means this or that from the original can't happen, but you're just plain wrong. It can all still happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When you write a post like this, do you geniunely consider us gullibe retards or do you believe your own bullshit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's bullshit about it? Explain. Where am I wrong?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a fucking idiot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh man. You refuted all my points. You sure showed me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LIES

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"The game does not heavily deviate from the original, and will procure you the same feelings as the original. The Midgar we made in Final Fantasy 7 Re

        >The Midgar we made in Final Fantasy 7 Remake was a result of trying to make it satisfying for fans of the original.

        So he lies and says they made Remake faithful to the original to appease old fans then says they are going to be just as faithful in Rebirth? He's either knowingly lying or has no idea what he's talking about.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's one major thing from the original Midgar section that wasn't in Remake?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The part where hojo doesn't tell cloud to his face he wasn't in soldier, the part where Barret doesn't die and get brought back to life by time ghosts, the part where they didn't fight an intergalactic reality jumping sephiroth on the highway. You know the parts that weren't fucking retarded.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's the opposite answer to what I asked. Everything in the original Midgar section was in remake. I didn't ask what they added that wasn't in the original.

              As for Hojo telling Cloud that he wasn't in Soldier, Cloud just shrugs that off and it has no real effect on him anyway. Leaving it out makes no difference whatsoever.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The part where hojo doesn't tell cloud to his face he wasn't in soldier
              How does this change the story at all? This can easily be played off as Hojo fucking with Cloud.
              >the part where Barret doesn't die and get brought back to life by time ghosts
              Also doesn't change the story at all.
              >the part where they didn't fight an intergalactic reality jumping sephiroth on the highway
              I'll give you that, but it was a fun boss and better end to the game than fucking motor ball

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That should have followed up motorball with Roche. I can't believe they created a motorcycle crazy Soldier to be a rival to Cloud and then didn't use him in the big fucking motorcycle chase.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He can't be an enemy because he's going to become a party member and integral part of the New Scenario going forward.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That actually would have been cool. I wish they used Roche more but I guess maybe they are saving him for the sequels.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one wanted to do yet another motorcycle fight. The first fight with Roche already made the fight with Motorball more boring. One of those would have been enough.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that guy, but bruh, there's time ghosts and they fight Sephiroth. The story is different, you can't deny it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When you add anything to a story it technically becomes different. As soon as they added the Jessie chapter the story technically became different If Cloud stubbed his toe in the first reactor the story would technically be different. Those changes don't necessarily alter the overall plot though. The characters are still on the same path with the same objective as they were in the original game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The story is still heading in the same direction and following the same story beats and elements.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like remake but i get what they mean, even if the events are the same the context changed
                And the devs know about this, this is why remake is a "sequel"
                They changed the scenario to make it more interesting to old fans. Some people will like it, some people will hate it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're implying that anything different that happened in Remake negates the possibility of anything in the original game from happening, when in reality that's not the case. The rest of the original game is entirely possible even though they're definitely going to add more to it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see what you mean. It is pretty clear that they intend remake to be a "sequel", but I don't really understand why people have such a huge problem with that when the majority of the FF7 story is going by mostly unchanged.

                Here is the thing, if remake keeps goint this way it will derail from og's path completely by rebirth even if you go to the same places. Everything will be different
                This is why im curious if rebirth will go to the remake route of doing the same thing with small doses of fuckery until 80% when it goes crazy
                Or if they will change everything from start

                I honestly feel that if they want to change things Rebirth should be unhinged from the start
                Because going on this route of "we are changing but not changing" can become really shit and end up just with a downgraded version of FF7. At least go off and go crazy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >At least go off and go crazy
                I get the feeling that is where Rebirth is going. They killed off the plot ghosts so they aren't able to stop shit from getting fucked up now. I have a feeling they are going to follow the same "chapters" the original had, but then throw in some twists to make it different. I still think we are going to end up with the same general story, but then again I have no fucking idea what to expect with Zack still being alive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If there is something i dont want is zack being alive
                Everything else is kinda fine for me, i just dont want them to be cowards now
                You started this insanity, now finish it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, knowing that team i think they will go crazy
                As example, there is 0 reasons for sephiroth to kill aerith on the same place, there is 0 reasons for him to kill her at all
                He should just steal her materia at most

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why will it derail? How will it derail? What has happened so far that makes it impossible for the original plot points to happen? You're just assuming.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just the fact of sephiroth knowing about what will happen changes his plans completely, he wont do things on the same way at all if he wants to succeed this time
                Also if zack is alive this is another gigantic deviation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He could do things exactly the same for 99% of the trilogy and do something different at the end. We don't know what's going on yet. He might have to keep things as close to the way they were for all we know.

                And Zack being alive can be largely inconsequential. We don't know when or even if he'll catch up to the main cast. Even if he catches up to them at the start of Rebirth that doesn't mean they're just going to stop going after Sephiroth. You've effectively got one more party member that wasn't in the original game. That doesn't necessarily negate any possibility of things happening the same way they did in the original.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It could be, but i doubt this will be the case, his whole behavior is vastly different than how he is in the original game. It is basic to infer that he will also do different actions, he already does that in part 1 when he is "chained", just imagine what type of shit he will do free now
                Anyway, if i was you i would be prepared for these types of changes in order to not get vastly disappointed if something like that happens

                And zack being alive already changes the whole perception and purpose of cloud as a character, this is why i hate it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It could be, but i doubt this will be the case, his whole behavior is vastly different than how he is in the original game. It is basic to infer that he will also do different actions, he already does that in part 1 when he is "chained", just imagine what type of shit he will do free now
                I think this is the best argument, look how much of a shitshow sephiroth did in remake with the whispers on his ass
                Now he is free to do whatever he wants. He will never do the same things

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, what side of this argument do you think I'm on. I'm fine with them changing things. I welcome it, in fact. I'm trying to tell the people that don't want the overall plot to change that it probably won't. Their main objective is still to stop Sephiroth, and so far they're on the exact same path they were in the original game.

                How does Zack being alive change that? He hasn't done anything that would alter the original game's plot yet and we don't know when or even if he ever will.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is how i get why some people dont like it, having the same basic plot and going to the same places dont mean that you are doing the same story
                There is a lot of subtle elements that change how this whole story will be told
                Just the fact of "time travel" existing already is a big change compared to the themes of the original game

                This is why just like rebuild of eva, i dont think FF7R will end up being a true remake, but a new thing and a sequel to FF7

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I get why they don't like it. I get the arguments they're making. They're just wrong. Nothing that happened in Remake has derailed the plot from the original game. Zack being alive doesn't change the overall plot. Could it? Sure. But I'm simply going by what Kitase said. There is no reason not to believe what he said yet. All of the iconic moments from the original game could easily happen in Remake. Nothing has happened in Remake that makes those events impossible. If Zack were alive in the original and dead in Remake then yeah, that's going to fuck things up a bit.

                My guess is that there's "two" Sephiroths. The one from the original game who the party is after in Remake, and the one trying to change things. They obviously don't know that there are two different versions of him though. As far as they're concerned, it's just Sephiroth, which follows the original.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like, there is no point that i can make here, i disagree completely and believe that if a character that should be dead is alive, it is a completely different story
                Even more a character like zack

                Also the main vilain knowing about the future is not something basic. it is that simple for me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it is, people who believe that it will be the same story with smaller changes are deluding themselves

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ACSHUALLY IT'S THE SAME STORY EVEN IF REMAKE EXPLICITLY STATES THE UNKNOWN JOURNEY WILL CONTINUE

                ACSHUALLY THIS PIECE OF SHIT SEQUEL SERIES ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE SPIRITS WITHIN, IT'S ALL SAKAGUCHI'S FAULT!!!

                This is unironically how Nomura buttlickers argue

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I like the game a lot but it is not like og ff7 at all lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It depends on what that character does. Him being alive doesn't mean he's going to do anything that alters the original plot. He could just tag along and everything just happens the same way it did. He could be off doing something else completely and never meet up with the main cast. It's all just speculation on out parts.

                The main villain from the original game doesn't know about the future. The Sephiroth from Remake isn't the same Sephiroth from VII. The party is going to go after the same Sephiroth from VII while the Sephiroth from Remake pops up every once in a while trying to change things, but they're going to stop him. As far is the party knows, though, it's all the same Sephiroth. At least this is the direction I think they're heading. This way what Kitase said can still be true, but the obvious changes they're going for can still take place.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                THE

                UNKNOWN

                JOURNEY

                WILL

                CONTINUE

                UNKNOWN, gay. WHAT'S SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                UNKNOWN TO THE CHARACTERS, RETARD. STOP BEING RETARDED, RETARD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a fucking idiot? Literally every story is unknown to its characters, including the OG game.

                It's time to remove Nomura's gay pedo cock from your mouth. It's clearly ruining your ability for cohesive thoughts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >every story is unknown to its characters

                Thanks for agreeing with me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And why do you think this game in particular has that line with literally no other story doing it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because there's a part 2. And they're obviously going to add things that weren't in the original. This isn't hard to figure out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see what you mean. It is pretty clear that they intend remake to be a "sequel", but I don't really understand why people have such a huge problem with that when the majority of the FF7 story is going by mostly unchanged.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This just means "it will follow the same general storybeats but have a bunch of new shit thrown all over the place". It won't be faithful necessarily, but the vague plot outline will be intact.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It boggles my mind that people this sub IQ are allowed to write stories at this level. It's like they boil things down to basic story beats and completely forget that it's the execution that matters. Including all the scenes of the original but then covering it in convoluted bullshit and ruining all sense of subtlety is not being faithful, if anything it's creating this mess of a game with no real target market

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's clear to me the likes of Kitase and Nomura have no idea what made FF7 special. It was a fluke on their part, partly being supervised by Sakaguchi (who has first credit in the game)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can dislike what they are doing with remake but it is funny how unrelated sakaguchi was in the og ff7
            Almost every development interview was about nomura, kitase and nojima's development

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also uematsu's*

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You can dislike what they are doing with remake but it is funny how unrelated sakaguchi was in the og ff7
              >Almost every development interview was about nomura, kitase and nojima's development
              I was reading this 1997 interview and it is really good
              https://twitter.com/TurquoiseHammer/status/1613538039204306944

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is crazy how nojima was doing a speedrun to write the game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wow almost like SE has an interest to downplay Sakaguchi's role as much as possible to make the Retard Trio more legitimate successors of FF7 legacy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AAAAA i know who you are, you know what
                Sure lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One other aspect I don't see mentioned much is how most of us played the OG through a very Westernized lense. Having to read dialogue and interpret Lego characters made us fill in like 50% of the tone, but the remake is Japanese as shit in execution and it just feels so off. I think they actually did luck out in that the limitations of the time diluted all their cringe shit, which isn't an option now with current graphics

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's Japanese culture that has changed. If you watch animes of the 90's, that shit is way easier to digest than the modern trash. Japanese culture took a huge nosedive downwards after around 2005. It's like they all started to swallow some estrogen pills or something.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's Japanese culture that has changed. If you watch animes of the 90's, that shit is way easier to digest than the modern trash. Japanese culture took a huge nosedive downwards after around 2005. It's like they all started to swallow some estrogen pills or something.

              >Two retards complaining that something is not specially designed for them
              >One of them gained all the knowledge about Japanese culture from two video games he played
              >He's also one of those typical 90s gay who says that anime took a nosedive in the mid-2000s despite the fact that it was a golden era for the medium
              >He talks about Japs starting to take "estrogen pills" in the 00s while not knowing about bishounen Visual Kei aesthetic, fashion, and beauty standards that were popular since fucking 80s in Japan

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fag cope

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For an anime website these nerds don't know shit about Japanese culture. Androgyny as a Japanese ideal of beauty is over a thousand years old. There's a scene in the Tale of Genji where two men think simultaneously "if that hot guy were a chick I'd fuck him."
                Cute boys have been a thing for a very long time there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If we're being honestly, most women are attracted to pretty boys over manly men. The ideal male body to most women is
                >tall
                >slender, not swole
                >toned, but absolutely not ripped
                >long limbs
                >luxurious hair
                >square-jawed or else slender jaw, but with strong chin

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Mid 2000s
                >Golden era
                Holy fuck no, neither were the 90s mind you.
                The golden era was the 80s where studios could throw crazy money at some OVA ie the project they cared about and it didn't even matter if it bombed because they could easily recuperate their losses by shitting out some manga adaption and making tons from VHS sales.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mid-2000s were the golden era. It was a time when one of the most beautiful, emotional, and experimental series of all time remembered to this day came out and a lot of incredibly passionate studios like Bones made fuck ton of original series based on completely fresh ideas and created everything with love, heart, passion, and energy. No amount of overrated 80s gory porn shlock is going to win me over the same way that incredibly atmospheric and SOULful 2000s stuff did.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, this was just when things went bad. The 80's was the peak, that anon was right.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop sucking your own cuck

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't miss Saikyou Onmyouji no Isekai Tenseiki. Its pretty ok

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who could have thought I would read about nostalgia goggles in 2000s anime. Getting old. Soon it will be retro gaming too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nostalgia goggles
                I grew up watching fuck ton of anime from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s and stopped watching new series after 2014. The mid-2000s were the overall peak with fuck tons of absolutely amazing series from different genres coming out more so than in any other decade.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enma a cute

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't fuck, they just hung out under the airship all night

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tHeY wOn'T

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big ol' smooch and then fade to black.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last of Us Part 2 sex scene

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They will just imply it once again.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am playing ff7 remake for the first time and really really enjoying it. I hated FF15, should I hold out hope for ff16/rebirth?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FF16 is a different beast, i'm hyped for it but no way in hell i buy a ps5 for it, rebirth will be Remake but far more open.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FF16 is made by a different team than FF7R. It's not likely to be similar. But I imagine if you like FF7R, you'll like Rebirth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You'll do more than hold the circle button in 16, so yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      15 is objectively better than 7r in every conceivable way you chud

      You'll do more than hold the circle button in 16, so yes.

      7r js literally hold r1 to win
      ff16 has dmc5 guy on it so it's hold to win too
      15 in you die trying that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hey you're that guy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didnt take long for the abnormal to show up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude you have literally been doing this shit since before 15 even released. Unfuck yourself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hope is always a choice.
      I can't say more than this. They are taking a large risk on 16.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Missionary
    Anal
    Facial
    Footjob
    Paizuri
    Peeing in Cloud's mouth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Peeing in Cloud's mouth
      a man of taste

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when is part 2 coming out?????

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Winter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it is absolutely getting delayed to 2024
        I fucking hate episodic games

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean delay? Winter could mean anytime from December 2023 to March 2024. They never said anything about the game releasing this year so it can't be "delayed".

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How are they going to ruin it?

    FTFY

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will be Zack instead of Cloud because they're into cuck shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Zack instead of Tifa.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the story will be completely off the rails well before this point so the scene isn't even happening

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zack is dead you fools hes travelling the lifestream searching for aerith to say goodbye

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With extremely awkward exagerrated Japanese motion acting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yuffie SHOULD be exagerated tho

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where does Yuffie store her materia?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EW! GET AWAY FROM ME! MALE!

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to lick Tifa's armpits

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to lick Yuffie's armpits

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want to stick my nose inside her rectum and breathe her bowels for the rest of my life.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want Part 2 to come out already just so I could kiss Yuffie on the gold saucer date

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is yuffie 16 in ff7
      Funny because she could easily be a romantic pair with cloud because they have the same mental age even if she is treated like the kid of that group

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Girl being underaged in JRPG has any impact on whatever she can be romanceable by the MC
        lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SE is not Atlus

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And? My point is that Jap devs don't care about the age difference between the characters or if the girl is underaged. In XV you have 15 year old Iris lusting over adult Noctis

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SE is not Atlus

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kyrie isn't a mary sue/poochy ruining the entire game. Try harder.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She will be in part 2

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing about Cloud/Tifa and Zack/Aerith for me is that they're parallel narratives in that they both haven't seen their first love in 5 years and unexpectedly meet each other. It's supposed to represent the idea in life that you don't always end up with the first person you fell for, for whatever reason, and it's ok to find someone new, to be allowed to move on and love again. To look forward and not back.

    I personally think they're going to develop their relationship more, and everything seems to be pointing to that, but maybe not. I think if I was wrong, and my perception of the characters and narratives were wrong, I would probably have to stop being a fan, because if my perception of the characters and their narratives has been wrong all of the time, what was I a fan of? I guess the music is cool. That would be pretty sad.

    There's nothing wrong with being with your first love forever, it's not messy, it feels good to the average player. I just think it's not very interesting and doesn't really fit with the rest of the complex narratives in FF7 that deal with life.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it's a post AC sequel there's no reason to even kill Sephiroth again, sending him back to the lifestream for what, the 4th or 5th time? If he's found a way to interface with the lifestream's flow of memories then he can just use it as a save point and redo, same for Aerith.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The butterfly effect doesn't exist in FF7R. Nojima and Nomura are hack frauds. Without Gooch whipping their asses to submission, they are malignant.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gooch could've whipped his own ass to not shit up the company with spirits within

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not nearly as bad as Compilation, Advent Children and FF7 Sequel Reboot MCU Edition.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually spirits within was 10x worse because his fuck up changed the whole top suits at square making decisions like creating the compilation of FF7 being a thing

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i-it's Sakaguchi's fault that everyone left at SE was a major retard, with Nomura being closet gay pedophile running every FF entry into the ground

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sakaguchi wishes that his shit movie was advent children, maybe it wouldnt have been a disaster and almost killed the company

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sakaguchi wishes that his shit movie was advent children, maybe it wouldnt have been a disaster and almost killed the company
            This unironically tho, if kitase and nomura were on that project they could've saved it
            Also Spirits Withing did kill square from a manager perpective

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How come Kitase and Nomura couldn't save FF7 Remake selling less than a Persona game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Source?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is none
                He is basing this on nothing, p5 released 6 years ago and still didnt sell 8 mil copies even with multiple releases, versions and promotions on gamepass

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know
                just want to see what he will say, it is funny

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                P5 sales are at 7-8 million.

                Remake sold 5m and flopped big time on PC.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Source
                And im talking not one after 3 months of release
                We are 2 years after 7R released

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just look at Steam charts. P5 has 6 times more players and had a player peak 4 times as high.

                The supposedly biggest JRPG ever got dabbed on by a turn based anime dating sim lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, the game that was on another pc store for more than 6 months
                But i guess that the fact of you cant give a single data that isnt steam charts already tells enough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And P5 was on PS4 for like 4 years. Your shitty MCU take on FF7 got outsold by a 2018 anime dating sim.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True because persona was on pc before it released on steam, you're so stupid lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was. You could emulate it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon your really didnt get anything he said or are your trying to be disingenuous?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Source
                Most google results for FF7R sales
                >im talking not one after 3 months of release
                There isn't one because so far S-E seemingly refuses to update the sales numbers. If you want to prove that guy wrong then you're going to have to provide the proof

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So at the end you are just infering based on nothing, am i right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The numbers we have say 7R sold less and PC numbers strongly indicate stronger interest in P5 by a multiplier of 4.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So it means that you are only basing sales on steam numbers
                Even if 7R shipped and sold 5 mil in 4 months and Persona 5 took 6 years to sell 7 mil
                Am i right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                S-E stopped updating the milestone at 5 million. If it reached 6 million the presumption is they would update the milestone like they did with Nier: Automata when it hit 6 and 7 million. Either they didn't hit it or they're embarrassed to admit the game is selling really slow and don't want to remind shareholders of that fact.
                The only people who are inferring based on nothing are those who presume that the game has passed 6 million sales without any proof.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The game could not be selling as they expected
                But you need to be utterly retarded to believe that 2 years after release they werent able to sell more than 6 mil when they reached 5 with just few months

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Calisto protocol sold like 7R it would've easily paid itself kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to be utterly retarded to believe that 2 years after release they werent able to sell more than 6 mil when they reached 5 with just few months
                Actually you have to be retarded to presume previous sales indicate an absolutely reliable trend.
                It's real simple, either someone produces data or you're just assuming it broke 6 million.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Square was a company that announced milestones usually this would make sense
                The FFX and FFX-2 games combined sold 20,6 mil copies and square never said a single fuck about it. The remasters sold at least 6 mil
                So Square not documenting their sales numbers is not unsual
                Luminous did of
                FFX because they basically are a complete different studio by this point
                Only nier does the 1 announcement per milestone thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Got you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The FFX and FFX-2 games combined sold 20,6 mil copies and square never said a single fuck about it. The remasters sold at least 6 mil
                Man i remember about this, square is crazy
                They do not give a single fuck
                They only update shit like total sales for the whole franchise

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thoses remasters sold so much
                95% of the jrpg industry do not sell that much
                And they never talked about it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If Square was a company that announced milestones usually this would make sense

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is why i was talking about the FF brand anon, even talked about luminous
                Did you even read what i typed?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is why i was talking about the FF brand
                read the top two results

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, as this anon said here

                >The FFX and FFX-2 games combined sold 20,6 mil copies and square never said a single fuck about it. The remasters sold at least 6 mil
                Man i remember about this, square is crazy
                They do not give a single fuck
                They only update shit like total sales for the whole franchise

                They mostly update sales for the whole franchise, not individual titles. The only one that did that recently was 15

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we went from
                >If Square was a company that announced milestones usually this would make sense
                to
                >This is why i was talking about the FF brand
                and then
                >They mostly update sales for the whole franchise
                I love this completely disingenuous goal post moving

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you cant interpret basic things, sure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >interpret something at face value
                >AAAAKSHULLY I MEANT SOMETHING ELSE TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO THAT
                the goalposts were moved three times and a point still wasn't made

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, anon 🙂

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean here you are making sarcastic posts ending in smiley faces instead of refuting what was said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everything i said makes sense if you dont try to nitpick, i even talked about specific situations, you just chose to ignore them

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you dont try to nitpick
                if something fails at the slightest poke then it wasn't a solid foundation to begin with

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If what you mean with slightest poke is having to read more than one reply, yeah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >need to explain something by revising the content over three posts
                >still have no counterpoint to there being no data on sales for the past two years
                let's face it, you're done here and are just scrambling to save face

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, lets be honest. You did understand what i mean, the difference is how you just dont agree, and that is fine. But you acted like what i said is incomprehensible, when it is not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You did understand what i mean
                Even if I could read your mind through the internet that still doesn't counter the point I mentioned.
                Keep scrambling.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It does tho, just read the posts again

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why? If you want to refute something (You) need to make the pertinent argument. The fact that you need me to make the argument for you just proves how inept you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you just need to read it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >please keep replying to me!!
                yawn

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But you're the one doing it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So they announce milestones for literally everything that isn't 7R?

                https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/final-fantasy-14-reaches-new-milestone-of-27-million-registered-users

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No because almost every FF game that wasnt 15 didnt have any reports for some years
                And MMOS are all about selling those numbers, you know this right
                Things like registered users dont even matter overall

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, so every recent FF game is having milestones announced except 7R.

                I wonder why....

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you think that celebrating free accounts created is a milestone. I would say yes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/final-fantasy-14-reaches-new-milestone-of-27-million-registered-users
                14 never says how many ACTIVE users they have, people do calculations based on random data because they only use registered users just like blizzard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not even a lie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gooch kept creating nothing but forgettable mediocre garbage in the last 20 years

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sakaguchi wishes that his shit movie was advent children, maybe it wouldnt have been a disaster and almost killed the company

        Advent Children was when FF died. There was no going back after that complete trainwreck. SW was just a movie. But AC was a statement that FF was now McDonald's fan service machine.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          my balls

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >SW was just a movie.
          When a movie kills my company it sure is just a movie

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Versus was a black hole that wasted SE funds for a decade. It required a complete team make over and rebrand for production to actually start.

            7 Remake was a financial flop. Every spin-off has flopped badly. Dumb garden gnomes at SE are now attempting to backpedal from their pseudo sequel shit undermining all the core philosophies of the OG game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Versus was barely developed because 14 bombed lmao. Dont even try to pull this off
              And taking data of your ass again

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Versus was barely developed
                Because fag idiot Nomura kept rebooting and remaking the game. This is funny how SE had no issues developing 13 sequels or other SE games during this period. It's funny to me how Nomura cock riders always find ways to blame his failures on others. As if SE deleting his ass from FFXV production wasn't evidence enough the fag had badly mismanaged the project.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see that you like talking out of your ass so have a nice thread
                This is your last (you)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nomura got literally fired from Versus project due to wasting time and money for a decade producing jack shit. He's still butthurt over it today. Verum Rex is his butthurt on public display.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Versus was barely developed because it was announced when SE started working on multiple big projects like FFVIX, XIII, Type 0, and Kingdom Hearts spin-offs. All of those games had big development issues and SE didn't have enough manpower and resources to finish all of
                them so they started taking other teams at the company to work on them and that included Nomura's team. Versus XIII was always seen as the lowest priority for the company. Blame the retarded higher-ups who kept the idea that everyone must work on 50 different projects and waste trillions of yen on them. Also, your last statement is a lie. Nomura himself decided to leave the project in order to work on Kingdom Hearts 3 instead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dont give that guy any (you), he is kinda retarded
                It is not worth it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see it now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're still not explaining how FF13 managed to get its sequels during this period just fine. Or the multitude of other SE games released during that period. OR the fact that Nomura got fired and replaced by Tabata. Or how to this day he's still extremely asshurt over losing Versus, to the point of making Verum Rex.

                Nomura cock rider apologists are the worst. Your God king is the mockery of the Internet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can (you) even fucking read? XIII sequels were released after that period already ended and those were co-developed with TriAce. All the projects were finished because Versus had the lowest priority for the company. I also already said that Nomura choose to leave the project to work on KH3 instead even if he may regret it now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vanille is pure sex

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As long as you tape her mouth shut.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her voice is beautiful tho. Yukari Fukui is a Goddess

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe. I was referring to the God-awful English VA.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Her English VA was also really cute. Not as cute as Yukari but still decent imo. I'm saying this as someone who absolutely hates English dubs in Japanese games and dubs in general. Metter of personal taste I guess. Not everyone likes cutesy moe voices.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The pitch of her voice hit nails on a chalkboard levels way too often for me. High voices don't usually bother me at all but something about hers is just off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                PNG for ants.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vanille is cute, CUTE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this blatant headcanon again
                Versus was stuck in the dirt for the longest until Tabata took over and gave the team actual attainable goals. Nomura got fired from the project and will be stuck doing KH until the day he dies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lightning is pure sex

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                negative ass

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What did any of that have to do with SW

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing. It just shows SE has had countless financial blunders this decade not related the slightest to SW. They are being kept alive with Sony bribes now. Sony is practically funding FF16 for them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, do you think that Square goes bankrupt before all those guys retire and you reach your 40s-50s?
                Would you still consider a win if it takes this long?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SE is already bankrupt. Without Sony, they would have crashed long ago.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, bro
                It means that you arent counting anymore because you are larping as if they are a sony studio now? Good strategy ngl

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Square will go bankrupt next week, this time for sure, this time for sure

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's up with those arms, damn

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >say something remotely negative about FF7 being turned into MCU
    >b-but it's all teh fault of this 2001 movie, this is why every dev at SE now has retard-tier IQ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's all teh fault of this 2001 movie
      Yes, it literally is (you) retarded fucking dumfuck. Spirits Within killed the entire company and transformed it into what it is today. Sakaguchi is the biggest hack in history all thanks to his obsession with making movies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >animechud Nomura cock rider is savagely retarded
        Not a surprise to me. I'm sure that's how you justify 7 Remake being a worse game than literal kusoge-tier JRPGs. I'm sure that's how you justify SE greedily attempting to MCU FF7. I'm sure that's how you justify the lowest quality of storytelling ever seen in a video game.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yuffie is a miracle of the universe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is that an outie? Gross.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so glad the Remake happened.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine a BBC pushing her belly up from the inside

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is FFXV a shit game?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just bad translation. Tifa is still a virgin.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just hope they do beach-Hojo scene justice.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://steamcharts.com/app/1462040

    Yikes. FF7R is fucking dead. Seems like you can't even trust Kitase/Nomura/Toriyama with the simple task of simply remaking a 1997 game.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will be a fade-to-black implied sex like the original. And people here will be outraged that it wasn't just porn.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SE don't want to admit 7R sold less than Nier Automata.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nier is an astronomical success but i think 7R has surpassed it or is close to doint it by this point
      As this anon here said

      So it means that you are only basing sales on steam numbers
      Even if 7R shipped and sold 5 mil in 4 months and Persona 5 took 6 years to sell 7 mil
      Am i right?

      4 months after release 7R had 5 mil

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i think 7R has surpassed it
        source or headcanon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is why there is the "I THINK" part, anon
          Read

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So headcanon, got it. Get back to us when there's ACTUAL data and not just hopes and dreams.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is why there is the "I THINK" part, anon
            >Read
            KEK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were stupid to only have it as a playstation exclusive for that long. Even Neir is on the fucking Xbox. They also hurt themselves by not making it a real remake and breaking it into parts. They fucked 7R right out the gate and the word of mouth caught up soon after.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We can't really know for sure. Nov 2022 NierA sold 7M copies.

      Our last news on 7R was 5 Mil end of 2020

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nier is an astronomical success but i think 7R has surpassed it or is close to doint it by this point
      As this anon here said [...]
      4 months after release 7R had 5 mil

      They were stupid to only have it as a playstation exclusive for that long. Even Neir is on the fucking Xbox. They also hurt themselves by not making it a real remake and breaking it into parts. They fucked 7R right out the gate and the word of mouth caught up soon after.

      We can't really know for sure. Nov 2022 NierA sold 7M copies.

      Our last news on 7R was 5 Mil end of 2020

      None of that really maters anymore, the REAL litmus test will be the sales of Rebirth. Now that they can't bait and switch people with thinking it's a true remake it's 100% guaranteed to have less sales, but just how much damage that did will need to be seen. Totally anecdotal but my entire friend group is waiting for Rebirth to be free on PS Plus if only to see how weird it gets, but it just isn't worth paying anything for at this point with how much they fucked up

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They will kill Cloud long before that.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nomurachuds BTFO

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nomura apologists are literal schizos nowadays. Playing nothing but trash for a decade mindbreaks any bro.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apologize.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miss the king like no other

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good riddance

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's rumored to be involved with the FF9 remake, so no.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would be cool, but idk if this will happen
          At least with him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >good riddance
        Guy was the soul of Square
        >b-but muh failed movie!
        Sakaguchi took many risks and many of those risks paid off (FF1, FFVII, FFXI) which helped define Square to be a top powerhouse of cutting edge visuals in Generation 5 of the consoles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, FF9 was cancer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See:

      Gooch kept creating nothing but forgettable mediocre garbage in the last 20 years

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how they backpedaled on this. In the Ultimania, they are literally licking their own balls for doing the sequel shit. Then it fell flat on its face and now, just endless backpedaling.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kitase wanted to MCU the "Remake" series. This is why they wanted to go off rails. They wanted this to be milked for decades. It would basically be a universe of its own.

      But alas, that cash grab crashed hard. And now they're doing 3 Parts and calling it quits afterwards. I doubt they'll even get to Part 3 if 2 bombs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > lying Nomura

      Kitase wanted to MCU the "Remake" series. This is why they wanted to go off rails. They wanted this to be milked for decades. It would basically be a universe of its own.

      But alas, that cash grab crashed hard. And now they're doing 3 Parts and calling it quits afterwards. I doubt they'll even get to Part 3 if 2 bombs.

      > greedy Kitase
      Seems like a normal guy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact he is replying to himself with those blatant titles is even funnier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The fact he is replying to himself with those blatant titles is even funnier

        Nice way to ignore the actual quotes posted 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keep posting the images, im sure you're having fun

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So can someone please explain to a newfag of the series about whether or not the new FF7 is a remake or not? Does it just no follow the plot of the original as closely or does it completely change certain characters and plot points? Is it better to play the original or the new one?
    >Capcha: GAY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The "remake" is just a sequel with ton of fan pandering. You're better off just playing the original and pretending the sequel reboot never happened

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a remake and a new thing at once. What people wanted was a remake of the old shit with some expansions. What we got is a remake of the old shit with some expansions and a lot of meta time travel, parallel universe bullshit.

      The game also feels a little hollow because they stretched a 7h part of the original to 30h. All the story beats are there but between them is a void and its stretched thin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It adds substantial things but hasn't changed anything substantial from the original game, if that makes any sense. Kitase said all the important moments from VII are going to be in the trilogy, but all we can do is take that with a grain of salt. Don't listen to the retards who claim everything in the original can't happen now because they're wrong. And smelly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you unironically trusting Frog Scam artist Kitase?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You'd think people in the industry would be best positioned to know that NFTs are an impossible pipedream the way they're advertised. Digital trading cards at best. How anyone could think they're going to revolutionise anything, I don't get.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I said take it with a grain of salt. Until the game does the opposite of what he said that's all we can do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but hasn't changed anything substantial from the original game
        Hello

        So can someone please explain to a newfag of the series about whether or not the new FF7 is a remake or not? Does it just no follow the plot of the original as closely or does it completely change certain characters and plot points? Is it better to play the original or the new one?
        >Capcha: GAY

        , please don't listen to fags like this. In the "remake", when you try and leave the main city you have the endgame villain of the OG game meet you at the end of a freeway and slice open a pocket dimension where you kill the personification of fate so you can alter you own destiny moving forward. In the original game you just drive away on your bike and leave the city. It is beyond different at this point, its just that most consoomers wouldn't understand good story structure even if it slapped them in the face

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And you end up on your way to Kalm with the same characters with the same objective as VII.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, so the OC boss battle with Sephiroth actually doesn't matter?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It does matter because you're eventually going to have to fight that version of him again. I'm under the impression that there are two Sephiroths in Remake. The one from VII and the one in Remake is a "future" version or something like that. The party (maybe aside from Aerith) thinks there's only one because they have no reason to believe otherwise, so that doesn't change their objective from the original game of tracking him down and stopping him. Does that make any sense?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not hard to get. The game is trying in parallel pander to fanboys while simultaneously trying to stretch the story with OC sequel shit so they can MCU the "Remake".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So everybody wins? People who wanted a remake can have it. The people who want all the extra shit can have that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone without taste.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, because most new folk had no idea what the fuck happened at the end. You cannot tell two stories at the same time and expect people new to the franchise who only recognise the characters at face value to understand anything. The story of 7 got somewhat convoluted towards the end with clones, and Cloud's memories, etc, but they're expecting people to keep pace and care about all of that while shoving a whole other narrative on top of that. You cannot motivate people to "change destiny" when they don't know what that destiny is. You even saw that in the characters themselves in the final chapter, Barret and Tifa going on about how they need to defy fate, but why the fuck would they want to defy something they know nothing about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tbf, the shoddy translation of the original contributed to a lot of that confusion. That won't be a problem in the remakes. If they tell the story well enough that should mitigate a lot, if not all, of the confusion.

                Defying fate is a trope that's used all the time. And they've seen the time ghosts "fix" things so I think that's why they know things are being fucked with. Defeating them was literally defying fate. And as far as they know Sephiroth is just Sephiroth. They don't know this one is different than, or a different version of, the one Cloud has history with. That's why fighting him doesn't change their objective of stopping "Sephiroth". It's all the same guy to them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That won't be a problem in the remakes. If they tell the story well
                That train has already passed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but roche is the best new addition
                the original unironically lacked other Soldiers to contrast with Cloud

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It had Zack which was enough for anyone above 12 IQ.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The issue is not that he is in the game. But how it is depicted. Its tone deaf.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if by tone deaf you mean "this guy is killing our soldiers for fun", then yeah
                that part was retarded
                roche only works if he's actually rogue, which I hope he is in rebirth
                just driving along and his theme starts playing, maybe a weirdo challenge/shop by your choice
                him continuing with shinra after that incident would be full retard in writing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again, they added a character that doesn't effect the overall plot whatsoever. Is it stupid filler? Yes. On that we agree. Does it change anything substantial about the main plot? No.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >but the overall plot of the original is still contained within the game.
                That's not how storytelling works you massive brainlet.

                If you have a story with a proper beginning, middle and end, that's one story. If you take the same story, but completely dilute all that made the original flow and beat the way it did, it's not the same story. I literally don't give a shit about "plot". This isn't a wiki page I'm reading. It's a story I'm experiencing. And if SE is unironically dumb enough to think 30 hours to reach Kalm a million anime fights before is the same story as OG, then they can go to hell and stay there. They can take you with them.

                And shut the fuck up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus fuck you can't fall back on muh translation, we all understood the OG story fine. My point is you don't need to take a perfectly functional and lauded tale and put a whole other story OVER THAT and expect it to be good.
                > And they've seen the time ghosts "fix" things so I think that's why they know things are being fucked with.
                Like when one brought Barret back to life? Yeah, let's defy the thing that just saved me, peak logic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're not doing this to make it better. They're doing this so they can milk the series for another 15-20 years. They are already shitting out 7 Remake spin-offs like mad. It's all business. It's not about storytelling. It's about money making.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't need to remake it in the first place. And maybe they'll pull it off. Neither of us know either way yet. Maybe they'll surprise you and handle it well.

                Yeah, it brought him back to life. They also tried to kill them. It's pretty obvious to them that they're not exactly "on our side". They're screwing with things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is what I mean by sub IQ consoomer, they only care about basic beats. By this logic you could literally make anything happen, Cloud could take a steaming dump on Tifa, it kills her, and she gets resurrected after they go on a quest to revive her in a secret cave under Midgar, but if they arrive at Kalm afterwards it's a totally faithful story. Jesus Churst that a share a planet with people this dumb is scary

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The 7 Remake apologist squad is the literally the most mindbroken group of people I have ever seen

              >Acshually, despite this world-ending fight with Sephiroth after Midgar, it's totally the same story!!1!!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that fight totally ended the world. Pretty impressive that the party and Chocobo Bill could survive the destruction of the planet they're currently standing on.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. In that instance which part of the original game isn't being remade? Did that event change any part of the overall plot? Did it negate the possibility of the rest of VII's plot from happening? No, it didn't. By your logic, if this was a literal 1 to 1 remake any sidequest they add to the game that wasn't in the original, regardless of how little it effects the main plot, automatically makes it unfaithful.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're being a disingenous retard. You can't claim it's the same story when we've already had 30 hours of Sephiroth shoving himself in every cutscene, including a world-ending boss battle event where he dodges Omnislash.

                It's not the same story. It's the worst of both worlds, a fanboy pandering REMEMBER THIS GUY and corporate attempt to milk a short story to MCU-like giant.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >including a world-ending boss battle event where he dodges Omnislash
                Did that happen? That's kind of based, actually. I haven't played through the Shinra tower in the remake yet, but will get to it before Rebirth comes out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think it's genuine autism. No rational mind could go "why yes you COULD actually inject anything into a story but if we end up at the same pitstops it's faithful".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't claim it was the same story. It's obviously had things added to it, but the overall plot of the original is still contained within the game. That's why I keep asking what was in the original that isn't in the remake. It's dumbasses that keep telling me things they added in the remake instead of answering that question.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but the overall plot of the original is still contained within the game.
                That's not how storytelling works you massive brainlet.

                If you have a story with a proper beginning, middle and end, that's one story. If you take the same story, but completely dilute all that made the original flow and beat the way it did, it's not the same story. I literally don't give a shit about "plot". This isn't a wiki page I'm reading. It's a story I'm experiencing. And if SE is unironically dumb enough to think 30 hours to reach Kalm a million anime fights before is the same story as OG, then they can go to hell and stay there. They can take you with them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's still telling the same story. Shinra is killing the planet. Blow up the reactors to stop it. Meet Aerith. Save Aerith. Plate drops. Aerith goes willingly. Assault the Shinra building to save her. Escape. Fight Rufus. Leave Midgar. Start searching for Sephiroth. Now, some other major things happened, but none of them have derailed the party from the same objective they had in the original game when they left Midgar. In VII, their objective was to stop him. In Remake, their objective is to stop him. Yeah, WE know it's different, but it hasn't changed their motivations or objectives at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Surface-level the same story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not telling the same story. The same way reading a wiki page isn't the same as actually playing the game. The plot elements may be there but the story is completely different. Pacing, momentum and focus are key parts of a good story. Areas the original excelled at, and why it was an excellent story. By making it bloated, convoluted, stretched out, the same plot elements don't make the same story. You're witnessing a Frankenstein's game. Basically loose elements incompetently glued together hoping fanboys are too dumb to notice.

                What made the PS1 FF games so great were precisely the sense of pacing, adventure and momentum they had. By spending 30 hours killing rats in copypaste sewers, you've already ruined that. And we're now not even talking about the OC additions. Just by artificially extending what was originally there is telling a new story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is telling the same story. Keep making semantic arguments all you want. It's the same characters with the same objectives doing the same things with the same goal. Yeah, a bunch of new shit is getting thrown at them, but their end goal is still the same, and until those new things change that or alter the events leading up to it, then it's the same story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How are you this dumb? Like, I cannot fathom being this stupid. Can you give me your opinion on other topics? I'd love to figure out how a brain this rigid and narrow in critical thinking functions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I love that they didn't do a 1:1 remake, it keeps things so fresh
                >Also it's the exact same story
                Your average 7R fan everybody

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you unironically struggle to be this retarded?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By this logic you could take every classic movie, reshoot them and inbetween the major scenes have the characters jacking off while staring directly at the camera, and if you released it to the public they'd go "Hey, it's the same movie!". I don't know how else anyone can explain to you that a story is MORE THAN ITS BEATS. Ideas are worthless, execution is everything, even the most basic ass screenwriting 101 fag will tell you that. If you gave the exact same beatsheet to two different writers to finish the script, would you read them back and go "Yup, exact same story!". No, because everything that happens BETWEEN THOSE BEATS EFFECTS THE STORY. And if you say it doesn't, then what is the point of creating anything ever? Don't release movies, just print out beatsheets and have people read them. Don't make games, just write a 4 page treatment for the story and sell that for $60, because nothing that actually happens in the game meant anything right? Invite me to your wedding and let me shit on your mother and piss on your wife, and I'm sure you'd be just as happy as if I didn't because "I had the goal to get married today, and in both scenarios I got married at the end so it was the same"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you are that dumb, holy shit. Enjoy your life, and my condolences

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Did that event change any part of the overall plot?
                Plot is more than just "and then this happened, and then this happened", it's about character, tone, hitting emotional beats for fucks sake. When the Whispers attack the slums for the first time is a perfect example of why your garbage logic doesn't make sense, having them go through that whole ordeal, then afterwards be all like "Lol well that was weird, anyway Cloud you replace Jessie for the bomb mission" was insanely bad. No rational person would ever do that, you would clear your schedule and go "What the fuck just happened???". But because they're trying to tell two stories it was they just rammed the whisper stuff into the normal events of the OG and it makes it this disjointed clusterfuck of just piling stuff on without thinking about making a cohesive narrative

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a world full of monsters. They literally keep a tally of how many people are killed by them. Yeah it was fucked up but it's part of life for them. Eventually people get on with their shit, even when awful things happen. Could they have taken more time with it? Sure. No argument there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine taking a perfectly fine, even praised, story. You decide to retell it, but instead of just telling that story, you try and tell a whole other story on top of that story, which is only really clear if you already played the original story in the first place. Square have done the incredible, in that they made and marketed a remake that STILL requires you go back and play the original, but at the same time it treads so much of the same ground of the original that also makes it somewhat pointless. They made this Frankenstinian beast which is too confusing to be a remake for new fans, and jumps every shark possible with convoluted story additions and meta commentary to be a remake for old fans. So it's this quasi-sequel slash remake that does neither of those things good in its attempts to be both. I generally admire people who take creative risks but how the suits at Square signed off on this clusterfuck will never not boggle my mind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly this. It's not even a risk since it just retreads all the steps of the OG game anyways. Doesn't even consider the butterfly effect at all.

        It's just a very bad RPG Fantasy game. It plays out like a low budget action game instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all but confirmed that it's an actual sequel, with time travel shenanigans, or something similar. It mostly follows the plot of the original, but stretches things out and adds filler, because they're releasing it in installments. There are a lot of changes, mostly for the worst, though some of the new moments are great.

      But what you have to understand is that we can't not play it. FFVII is arguably the greatest game ever made, and for many of us, it was our childhood. Even if we're bothered or put off by some of the stuff in the Remake, we have to play it, because these are the characters we love and remember.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally 90% of 7 Remake is "look at Tifa and Aerith do this cute thing!"

        Fuck I hate Nojima and Toriyama and Nomura most of all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally 90% of 7 Remake is "look at Tifa and Aerith do this cute thing!"
          Yeah, that was great.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For mentally ill otakus, sure.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I preordered this, because some anon said it has cute Tifa x Cloud childhood stuff and actually reveals that Tifa had a crush on Cloud growing up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This book is genuinelly really cool
                Man, tifa went through a lot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literal fanfiction to whitewash Tifa.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know, that's called "whitewashing".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                now you're going to have to prove what exactly she was whitewashing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The original simply implies that she was more or less indifferent towards Cloud
                Of all the things people cherrypicked to hate on the remake, one heinous thing they did not point out is

                I really hope this is his headcanon and not retcon because it sucks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is cloud's headcanon, every false memory starts with a jenova effect

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even when he sees Aerith walking through the forbidden forest and her death?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because there is 2 types of fuckery going on, the ones on his past because of his memory, and the ones of the future with aerith
                The ones of the past are easy to identify which are the fake ones

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's the same effect for both

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So probably all his fake past memories and future memories are related to jenova/sephiroth, interesting
                Now you can check how all the true memories like when he remembers his mother and the promise it doesnt have the weird effect

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the true memories like when he remembers his mother
                He's in a SOLDIER outfit in that one so that's fake though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He probably did meet his mother, i wouldnt doubt that he even faked being a soldier to her
                And even if he wasnt wearing the same outfit, overall them memory would still be true

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, he just borrowed a SOLDIER uniform from someone and then changed into it to meet his mom, right?
                >even if he wasnt wearing the same outfit, overall them memory would still be true
                This is straight up cope. You can't pick and choose which memories are real or not, the game has to be explicit about that and we aren't anywhere near that part yet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, a lot of people have real memories of their childhood mixed with fake ones that they end up believing in
                Cloud having a real memory with his mother but changing it slightly for it to make sense with his whole narrative isnt unusual at all
                Jenova did weirder shit with cloud than just that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If I was going to believe in what memories in FF7R are real or not I wouldn't take the word of an anon who presumed all the false ones were preceded by "certain effects" but those were the ones that do come true while the ones that didn't have the effects are the ones that are questionable. Unless a more compelling argument is made or better evidence is presented all that stuff sounds like biased headcanon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so bookmark this, one day you'll see that im right

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His logic is the easiest one and a lot of people did catch up on that really fast when the game released. The fact you are being contrarian about such simple thing is incredible

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >being contrarian
                I literally called out a claim as false, the evidence is in the memory videos posted in this thread. If anyone is being "contrarian", it's anyone who makes a claim and then brushes aside the evidence that disproves it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is not a single fake claim, it is simple
                Every past memory with effect is false, the only exception to that is the ones about the future
                But i wont try to convince you, you'll have to get it with time anyway
                But remember that people told you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Every past memory with effect is false
                >the effect pops up during the flashback of when Tifa is crying over her dad's body
                lol okay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When cloud finds tifa she is already dying, it was a zack perspective

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So it's not a false memory then? Because that was the argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, a manipulated memory that isnt his isnt this the whole concept of what is goint on with him the whole game?
                Why are you trying to be disingenuous?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can read some posts ago, this already was discussed

                The only one being disingenuous is you. You're trying to weasel out of your theory being exposed as false. Again, literally the ONLY flashback your theory can be applied to is the first one. And the fact that that's the case proves it's wrong and that that first flashback probably did happen.

                In reality, the two flashbacks without the green effect are like that because they don't happen as a part of distress. In both cases, Cloud is calmly reminiscing, rather than memories forcing themselves into his head in a tense moment.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the argument is about false memories, you know, the whole reason Cloud thinks he's a different person? If the argument is about Tifa crying over her dad is a Zack perspective then that's wrong too, because Zack comes across Tifa after Sephiroth has slashed her.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud is constantly copying tifa and zack memories with his jenova cells to fill in the gaps

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's bullshit. In the actual game, it was revealed he had those memories because he was actually there. The idea that Jenova "magically inserted memories into his head" is either false or a mistranslation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Regardless if you like it of not
                Here is the link with full texts from OFFICIAL ULTIMANIA
                Im sure you'll love it

                https://twitter.com/TheStrifeisRife/status/1542254670252593157

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is always great when they discover that the jenova cells in cloud are literally copying memories from other people just like The Thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So Tifa and Zack's memories are false then? Except they did happen?

                Cloud took the memories but changed the perspective to make a new version for himself. This is why he acts like zack or knows things that he shouldnt
                The basis is correct, but it is not his, so it is fake

                Cloud doesn't know anything he shouldn't. All his memories are either his own or else a delusion based on things he heard and pieced together. The theory that he was magically implanted with other people's memories through the power of Jenova isn't true.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would trust more in the official descriptions of scenes than your interpretation...because it makes sense to me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Funny, I trust the actual game more than supplemental material. In the actual game, it was revealed Cloud remembered things he shouldn't because he was actually there, not because of "jEnoVa".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Btw that guy and his friends are translating all ultimanias, so you can probably find the script and description of all scenes of ff7 there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you trying to make some sort of point?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Uh-huh, and here's a link to the actual scene in the game:

                ?t=61734
                Cloud had memories of what happened in Nibelheim because he was there. He was never implanted with other people's memories by Jenova. That's objectively false.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then you should fight against the official ultimanias that were released in 1997 together with the game, brother

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Ultimania is correct only until it contradicts the game. And I'm also not discounting the fact that this is a mistranslation or misunderstanding.

                In the game itself, Cloud did not absorb other people's memories. That's a lie Sephiroth made up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then there is a lot of mistranslations bro lmao
                A lot of parts clearly talk about about this, even other translations
                But i understand why you cant accepti, it can be hard at first because this changes the whole perspective of the story
                Remember, jenova is The Thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Until rebirth releases he will have more time to search and learn about this

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can understand how this is hard for you to accept, given that you didn't play the game and just care about FFVII fandom. But in the actual game, what you're saying is objectively false. The entire point of that arc was that Cloud's memories aren't false, just distorted and deluded. He didn't have anyone else's memories implanted into him, and to say otherwise is to contradict the game.

                Cope with this however you want, and feel free to seethe. But you can't deny it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You will have time to cope and accept how the book released in 1997 already said this with the actual script describing every scene with more info

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, you will have to cope, seethe, and dilate at the fact that the game itself revealed that Cloud was not implanted with other people's memories and that his memories were all his own. This isn't a matter of opinion; this is a matter of fact.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I understand you bro
                It was hard for me too at first

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're so high on copium, it's pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love this, a lot of people really dont get this part
                Cloud is more fucked up by jenova than he seems, those cells literally game him a defense mechanism to create a new personality for himself to protect his mind

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh boy this topic is crazy but so cool and most people dont really know about it
                Rebirth will go even harder on that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Totally, the new FF7R ultimania already commented how cloud used tifa's memories

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then prove it using the game. Point out a memory that was absorbed from Tifa, which Cloud didn't originally have.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1417374653203423233

                Here, this translator also got it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah this happens mostly on subtle scenes and the ultimania clarifies them more
                People will get angry because this is what they do when they feel betrayed by their headcanon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People will get angry because this is what they do when they feel betrayed by their headcanon
                Nojima talked about this...he knows

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol this is just so pathetic. You're basically like Cloud, trying to build mental defenses around things you know are false. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this: it's not in the game, and it contradicts the game.

                In the actual game, Cloud wasn't able to recall memories that weren't there. He couldn't remember joining SOLDIER, because he never joined SOLDIER. He was only ever to recall memories he had himself, in a fake way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like, i just posted official sources, you are the one having a reality shock.That is fine tho

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I posted official sources: the game. What kind of brainlet thinks it makes sense to say
                >I KNOW THE GAME SAYS ONE THING, BUT THIS INTERVIEW ACTUALLY REVEALS THAT'S FALSE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it was just in one ultimania it would be ok to not agree, but that is going on in multiple ones
                Every ultimania talks about cloud doing that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is some high level shit that people only learned more recently because most of those books never were really translated

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are cool because they also describe what characters felt in specific scenes, like what yuffie thinks of the party when they meet, what cloud and tifa think of each other in specific moments. Cool stuff with coments of the devs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It also coments of what happens the moment zack dies and this is why cloud has such sudden shift in posture, jenova working baby
                You can notice it in the crisis core cutscene

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Use the RLM approach when shitting on SW:
                >why didn't they do this and that?
                >and I don't give a fuck if it was explained in some book or whatever, what matters is the movie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can deal with this however you want
                But you know it is canon now, my job is done

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can tell yourself that all you want, but it will never be anything but chud cope. The game proves you wrong, and that fact makes you cry even more than you usually do at night.

                There's no scene in the game where Cloud has to figure out which memories are his and which were implanted; the reveal is that all his memories are real, just distorted and deluded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Idk if you like remake or not
                But if you will play the future games be prepared, i will only say that. They are talking about this for decades,and it will be even more obvious now for the oblivious

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah they will go even harder with this in the future titles of remake

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can talk about it all you want, but it's not only not in the game, it's contradicted by the game. As in, the game is literally telling you
                >Your theory is 100% false, and the reveal it's false is pretty much the point.
                Though it doesn't seem like you ever played it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't matter how much you samefag the same
                >WOW THIS IS SO INTERESTING THAT WE'RE JUST LEARNING THIS DEEP AND HIDDEN LORE NOW
                It's not in the game, and the game goes out of its way to say it's not true.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it's not in the game and is actually contradicted by the game, then it isn't real. No supplementary material can ever supersede the source material.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are calling him pathetic for some time just because he posted a link that didnt have an info which you dont like
                You just sound insecure

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I'm calling him pathetic for double-downing on a theory the game specifically goes out of its way to debunk. Sephiroth tells Cloud that his memories were absorbed from Tifa and aren't real, THEN WE HAVE AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE GAME DEDICATED TO PROVING THAT WRONG. As I said before, you don't care about the game; you care about FFVII fandom.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're describing yourself: you created headcanon and are throwing a tantrum when having to confront it as false.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im sure the reason why sephiroth is interested more in cloud is probably because he is the most efficient guy that can use those jenova abilities that isnt him

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree

                Holy crap, Sephiroth is interested in Cloud because he killed him, you dumb bastards. Play the game. Play the fucking game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1417374653203423233
                This is batlant because it says directly that cloud has memories based on zack's memories
                Something that is impossible because cloud never went to the war agaisnt wutai
                So he copied them

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He copied even the way zack felt about himself and his acts, interesting

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. There's no basis for that in the original game. In fact, whenever he tries to remember something he has no basis for, he fails. In reality, Cloud's memories are just distortions. Jenova never read other people's memories and copied them into him, the way that's trying to imply.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most people "don't know about it" because it's false. What you're saying is objectively untrue and contradicts the game. It literally flies in the face of the biggest reveal the original had to offer: Cloud is not a construct with other people's memories, but actually was there and his memories are all his own. How you can just be so wrong is pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So Tifa and Zack's memories are false then? Except they did happen?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud took the memories but changed the perspective to make a new version for himself. This is why he acts like zack or knows things that he shouldnt
                The basis is correct, but it is not his, so it is fake

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Cloud took the memories but changed the perspective
                So the memories are real and it's the perspective that's different. And yet the memory of Cloud being at home talking to his mother in a SOLDIER outfit would be considered one of the fake memories because even from someone else's perspective that would be wrong. And we don't know for sure that Cloud ignoring Tifa is a fake memory because it's strictly from Cloud's point of view and Tifa never gets a chance to review or refute it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You literally only have one single flashback that your theory could apply to:
                >Child Tifa yelling Cloud's name.
                Meanwhile, the effect you're talking about appears on countless other scenes that actually happened:
                >Nibelheim burning
                >Tifa picking up the Masamune
                etc.

                Rather than it signifying a false memory, it seems to be Cloud having trouble remembering or else being distressed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is not a single fake claim, it is simple
                Every past memory with effect is false, the only exception to that is the ones about the future
                But i wont try to convince you, you'll have to get it with time anyway
                But remember that people told you

                Additionally, there is no green effect when Cloud falsely remembers himself on his bed at his house, wearing a SOLDIER uniform.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can read some posts ago, this already was discussed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but he is in a SOLDIER uniform, which would make that memory false

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He wouldn't have had that uniform when talking to his mom; he would have been dressed in a Shinra grunt uniform or else just casual clothes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Correct, that's why that memory would be false and that's the one people are pointing to as being "true" because there wasn't the "jenova effect" before it started playing out. If any memory was being altered by Jenova it would be one where Cloud is in a uniform he isn't supposed to be in.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think the whole memory is false, but you're right it does blow the
                >GREEN EFFECT = FALSE
                theory out of the water. If that theory were true, we'd see green effects every time it flashed over to Cloud on the bed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the ultimania even talks about how they designed some memories scenes to give a hint of what is true and what is false

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes
                Let them be, they will get it soon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And I really hope they fix the nibelheim flashback because it's got some incoherent plot holes
                >"oh, I rememba, this is the 1st day you were in my room"
                >that's literally the day her mother died
                >"Howdy. Cloud, right? So uh, my mother fucking died, wanna come in and watch me as I sulk all day :("?
                It's even in the japanese version, so the writer got stoned or they fucked up.
                Maybe they meant "this is the first time you've ever been in my room". "You" as in present day Cloud during the flashback.

                >indifferent to Cloud
                >remembers him seven years after she last saw him
                >waited outside the town for the Shinra group to show up because she was hoping he would be among them
                >met him at the well in the middle of the night and changed her outfit to do so
                it's all in the original

                This, seems like nojima wanted to make tifa and cloud distant at first but also make they care a lot about each other, but he didnt manage to do it in the og that well
                This is why this book is cool, makes things work a lot more

                >They seem to be "retconning" it so that Tifa had positive feelings towards Cloud growing up
                The issue was they weren't as close as Tifa thought they were, which in itself kind of explains that she liked him back then

                Tifa doesn't remember that she fell and everybody blamed Cloud for it, she remembers almost jack shit from her childhood.
                All the remembers is that she used to play with these runts, then one day when she was a teenager Cloud made a move, told her "I'm gonna become king shit for you" and left. That made her assume they were close.
                Tifa actually not giving a flying fuck about Cloud before him asking her out is a big deal.

                In my opinion, this perfectly mirrors the truth about Cloud. He's an aspie impostor soldier, she's a fake childhood friend, both were larping the entire time, although they acted their role very well.
                Her character development is directly tied to his, that's why I hope they don't sodomize the story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, it's obvious that one of Tifa's friends let Cloud in when Tifa didn't object. They literally see him coming from the window and say
                >HEY IT'S CLOUD I WONDER IF HE WANTS TO COME IN
                When Tifa didn't tell them no, they probably just opened the door for him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're probably right.

                I feel like I have to remind you people that Cloud killed Sephiroth, long before he got any of his enhancements. He was always a badass, he just didn't know it.

                Yeah, the only reason why cloud wasnt a soldier is probably because of his poor mental state. But he always had great skills, he just never trusted in himself

                It's so simple when put this way, but it's probably the most controversial part of FF7, in my view. So many people try to find excuses (including the authors) when it's just a classic anime trope.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >In my opinion, this perfectly mirrors the truth about Cloud. He's an aspie impostor soldier, she's a fake childhood friend, both were larping the entire time, although they acted their role very well.
                >Her character development is directly tied to his, that's why I hope they don't sodomize the story.
                I get what you mean but i also dont know if making tifa like him more or not since the start would change it a lot
                One of the most interesting things about cloud is how it doesnt matter how good he was(he was a good grunt) he always felt like shit and had a low self esteem
                So he learning to love himself is one of the biggest aspects of the story, not the amoung of "loser" that he is

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel like I have to remind you people that Cloud killed Sephiroth, long before he got any of his enhancements. He was always a badass, he just didn't know it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, the only reason why cloud wasnt a soldier is probably because of his poor mental state. But he always had great skills, he just never trusted in himself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. In that instance which part of the original game isn't being remade? Did that event change any part of the overall plot? Did it negate the possibility of the rest of VII's plot from happening? No, it didn't. By your logic, if this was a literal 1 to 1 remake any sidequest they add to the game that wasn't in the original, regardless of how little it effects the main plot, automatically makes it unfaithful.

                The power levels in ff7 were also much more tame. Everything was more grounded and less shonen anime (it was anime but you know what i mean)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People will deflect to some Limit Burst as argument against this but you're right. The OG characters were definitely more vulnerable IN-STORY. This is why Aerith could get randomly stabbed. This is why even Sephiroth could get randomly back-stabbed. They were never Matrix characters. That was an Advent Children invention that stuck with the series.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like unironic clockwork

                You only think that because the cutscenes didn't show anything outlandish. But the actual battles had stuff like Omnislash, Knights of the Round, and whatever that one attack Safer Sephiroth does.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You only think that because the cutscenes didn't show anything outlandish. But the actual battles had stuff like Omnislash, Knights of the Round, and whatever that one attack Safer Sephiroth does.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You only think that because the cutscenes didn't show anything outlandish. But the actual battles had stuff like Omnislash, Knights of the Round, and whatever that one attack Safer Sephiroth does.
                True, the characters might seem more vulnerable. But the batshit insane elements were always there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There was a clear escalation and a long journey. At the end of the remake cloud is already flying around.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nibelheim flashback is something that will be really interesting to see in a new version

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Tifa doesn't remember that she fell and everybody blamed Cloud for it
                She remembers falling, she didn't know Cloud was there at the time.
                >one day when she was a teenager Cloud made a move, told her "I'm gonna become king shit for you" and left. That made her assume they were close.
                Cloud never mentions a reason other than wanting to be like Sephiroth and Tifa has no clue how Cloud feels because she's surprised when Cloud's subconscious tells her the real reason he wanted to become a SOLDIER
                >Tifa actually not giving a flying fuck about Cloud before him asking her out
                You're going to have to prove that. All we have before that is the day Tifa's mom died where she ran out on her own and didn't care about anyone was that was following her.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The older FF games were filled with these Freudian iceberg elements. About the self and the sub-conscious. The characters reach epiphany when they discover their subconscious mind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm trying to think of all the games where the MC had a crisis of identity.
                >IV
                >VI
                >VII
                >VIII
                >IX
                >X
                Pretty solid theme, honestly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m retarded for never noticing this, god damn.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >indifferent to Cloud
                >remembers him seven years after she last saw him
                >waited outside the town for the Shinra group to show up because she was hoping he would be among them
                >met him at the well in the middle of the night and changed her outfit to do so
                it's all in the original

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This, seems like nojima wanted to make tifa and cloud distant at first but also make they care a lot about each other, but he didnt manage to do it in the og that well
                This is why this book is cool, makes things work a lot more

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is cloud's headcanon, every false memory starts with a jenova effect

                They seem to be "retconning" it so that Tifa had positive feelings towards Cloud growing up. Which is completely fine, and not really even a retcon. The only thing the original really establishes is that they weren't super close friends. But we're never actually told what Tifa thought of Cloud growing up, nor are we led to believe they never had any interaction.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like, it is fine if they werent as distant, but that specific flashback that cloud has of tifa is clearly fake because of the green filter
                Every true memory of cloud's past doesnt have that type of effect. Like when he remembers of his mother and his promise with tifa

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They seem to be "retconning" it so that Tifa had positive feelings towards Cloud growing up
                The issue was they weren't as close as Tifa thought they were, which in itself kind of explains that she liked him back then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >whitewash
                Tifa never did anything wrong. It's not even clear that she was the one keeping Cloud out of their group, so much as her friends. The original simply implies that she was more or less indifferent towards Cloud, but didn't have any negative opinions about him, considering she let him in her house that one time and agreed to meet him at the water tower the other.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This, at most the original implies that she just saw him as one of those kids

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kino book for the ones who doubted my boy nojima

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Im not gay so i cant understand you, sorry

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I also wish that remake had more strong and sexy men, i agree with you
          That was tragic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For mentally ill otakus, sure.

          You are one of those plebs who hate Lucky Star aren't you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you have to understand is that we can't not play it
        They actually made it real easy for me to pass on it by ruining THE SINGULAR THING I cared about, which was Tifa's design. I had come up with conditions to which I would actually try it on PC but by the time in finally hit Steam I simply didn't care anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its the rebuild of evangelion of video games. It thinks its very smart but it just shits on the original.tr8hs

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >advertise it as a n ff7 remake
    >it’s actually KH spinoff
    Why did SE do this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nomura unironically considers himself a genius because of alternate universes and time travel. He thinks it's genius writing.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is what you call "epic fail".

    Just about every Japanese series is having some sort of renaissance while FF is being left in the dust. Not surprising, considering the hack frauds in charge of it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *crickets chirping*

      Nomura cock riders can't accept the fact that FF is now less relevant than anime kusoge JRPGs.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're insane if you think the rest of the series won't be 2 more rounds of "subverting expectations" (the expectation that it would be good).
    They will initiate going into events from VII and then completely steer somewhere else, but somehow still find themselves at the start points of VII's events over and over, and every time they go differently, until the ending is another "Punch Fate in the face" asspull.

    This is Aerith's spin off, I doubt we're ever going to see the northern crater at all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, they're going to hit all the major plot points, deviate to some new things added in Remake, and will ultimately end up back on the same course as the original game. That's what I've been saying the whole time. And if you think Sephiroth won't ultimately be the final antagonist then you're the insane one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you're saying all this OC story is just useless filler that won't amount to much in the end regardless.

        Wow, BRAVO NOMURA

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not at all. You'll still battle Sephiroth like you did in VII, thus ending the "remake" of that game, but then the sequel aspect kicks in and you fight the version of Sephiroth that's trying to change things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So it's actually a sequel then?

            Make up your mind.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, it's a sequel. Never said it wasn't. It is going to remake the major plot points from VII and bring them up to modern visual and audio standards, though, so in that sense it's also a remake. It's a remake inside a sequel. Let's put it that way.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHEN IS THE FUCKING REBIRTH TRAILER AAAAAAAAAAA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Soon, brother

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WHEN IS THE FUCKING REBIRTH TRAILER AAAAAAAAAAA
      january 31 is FF7's japanese release anniversary
      Maybe...
      Maybe...

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to passionately kiss Yuffie and lick her armpits

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    7 Remake apologists can't decide if they think the OC storytelling is actually genius or that it doesn't matter anyways.

    Regardless of their point, it makes them look like massive hypocrites.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    poorly

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    considering just how much Tifa porn there is out there my guess is shockingly terrible.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nomura made a fantastic modern Tifa design for G-Bike mobile game
    >Nah let's not use it
    >Let's make a new one with small breasts, a younger face, high thighs, and a black sports bra instead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't like thigh highs
      Go be gay elsewhere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >small breasts
      you fucking retard they're still huge.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They made the Jenova trail purple instead of blood to make the game hit T rating. No one is having sex in this game.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where is the anon that posts images of how evil kitase and nomura are? why did he stop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Where is the anon that posts images of how evil kitase and nomura are? why did he stop
      Wait a second...
      Those titles.
      Man, at least 7R and FF16 will be better than FF15

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The next game is called rebirth and you people think it will be a remake? This will be a wild ride full of bullshit and cringe. Do you really think they do the whole globe spanning journey? All those different locations?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They will go to those places, the order and context will be different tho
      Places like Wutai will probably happen only in part 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The next game is called rebirth and you people think it will be a remake?
      you know when you make a game literally called Remake and then basically lie about it and then carry on like its still a Remake and a the same time not a remake and act like this is how to write a story? me neither.
      >full of bullshit and cringe.
      oh absolutely.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is most of these compilation fans are clinically retarded. You could literally serve them anything with their favorite waifus on a plate, give them the most basic of fan service (I can't wait to see Gold Saucer!!11!!!), and inbetween that they will like and accept anything you throw at them. I actually read a review by some mouth breather who listed EVERYTHING wrong with the game, endless stuff they disliked, but ended it off with "but at least I got to see my favorite characters again". It's like they're so close to being able to critically think, but if you just wave the carrot in their face long enough they'll overlook the most garbage of writing

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still waiting for my boy Evan to show up in part 2

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aerith will be alive so it won't even be a thing.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Leslie

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kyrie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's cute!

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You just know how it is one guy because of how suddently the hateposting stops all at once
    This is crazy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it is fine if people even hate the remake, but when you see a sudden rise in the insanity of the thread you can be assured it is a schizo

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nayo

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    with all the "changing fate" shit they've been doing
    they won't fuck

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cloud will die in rebirth

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonon

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol

    >It's set in a different universe where we can milk the same story for 20 more games

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be frog garden gnome Kitase
    >talentless hack carried by Sakaguchi in the 90's
    >only real merit is FF7
    >come up with a plan where you can fanboy pander FF7 while simultaneously milking the game by turning it into a complete franchise, with OC characters and stories and parallel timelines out the ass
    >game releases
    >turns out fans weren't actually gullible retards and most consider it a disappointment

    JUST

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sakaguchi didn't touch any FF after V

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's talk about Cloud beating the ever-lIving shit out of Aerith getting censored.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How are they going to handle it?
    badly, just like they've handled basically everything else so far. for every tiny change that has been good, like say aeris's room as a child in shinra tower being aesthetic as fuck, shinra tower lobby looking good, there are dozens of other ones doing the opposite, like the reactor elevator being generic soulless high tech shit in remake when it was ambient aesthetic dark and janky tech strapped together in the original.
    they can't be trusted to replicate anything without ruining it

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About as well as Quasim's whelp group handling it. It's was even side, many Whelps.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if that guy posting random images will get a single (you) that isnt from himself

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the same company shilling NFTs are also dishonest story tellers
    Say it ain't so!

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who is the best waifu?

    And why is it (you)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IDWBAW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jessie is a pretty strong contender. She seems like the kind of girl who'd switch from a blowjob to a rimjob with no warning.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was Hojo even trying to accomplish with his Sephiroth "clone" experiment, and why was Cloud considered a failure, such that he didn't get a number? Like, I get that he was trying to prove his Jenova Reunion theory, but what was the criteria for a clone succeeding and a clone failing?

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Utterly pointless to speculate, it will legitimately take square at least six years to get to this scene and there's no guarantee they'll even try to recreate it.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >step 1: Make shill thread
    >step 2: People comment on game being bad
    >step 3: Sperg out, get mad, bail
    >repeat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally a sport by now. Every line of defense for 7 Remake and the retards behind the game is just stupidity in excess. It's so easily rebuked, it's not even a challenge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >step 1: Make shill thread
        >step 2: People comment on game being bad
        >step 3: Sperg out, get mad, bail
        >repeat

        You've been samefagging not only this entire thread, but every single VIIR thread for two years now, despite people here loving the game, talking about it regularly, and being excited for the sequel. It's fine to have a negative opinion of it, but when you spend your life not only hating it, but trying to create the illusion of superiority, you need to take a step back and realize that you need mental help.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I'm gonna call a COPE on that post. It's ok, you may enjoy eating shit. But don't pretend you can convince us of doing it too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Make shill thread
      It was a normal thread asking a question about if SE is going to implement sex scenes like in my favorite doujins and visual novels
      >People comment on game being bad
      (You) are the only one who hates it because it wasn't the remake you wanted
      >Sperg out, get mad, bail
      (You) are the one who got angry and lost his mind to the point of spamming all those random reaction images

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >(You) are the only one who hates it because it wasn't the remake you wanted
        It wasn't the remake anyone wanted

        This is what you call "epic fail".

        Just about every Japanese series is having some sort of renaissance while FF is being left in the dust. Not surprising, considering the hack frauds in charge of it.

        The game has flopped despite massive SE/Sony shilling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dont reply to him, he is trying to get attention the whole thread, letting him post images with a single you is funnier

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >make up literally anything that sounds kinda right about japan
    >collect (You)s from dimwits

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if he will get a single (you)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dude posted like 15 images on this thread to bait replies on only got 2 that werent from himself at most, this is insane
      I never saw such bad baiter on Ganker

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The dude posted like 15 images on this thread to bait replies on only got 2 that werent from himself at most, this is insane
        >I never saw such bad baiter on Ganker
        Baiting is unironically an art

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With this whole remake trend, I really wonder how Atlus is going to handle Persona 3 Remake. I'm afraid that Square Enix found a certain blueprint for a lot of remakes and other devs like Atlus are going to take inspiration from it. I don't know if I want a P3 remake with added plot twists and new huge elements that changes the entire story

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tone between the original and extended universe is very different.

    Just looks at Zacks demise
    In the OG he gets gunned down like a a dog by some Shinra patrol and they leave Cloud to get croak either by dehydration or get murdered by some monsters.

    Meanwhile in the extended universe
    He has this marvel tier showdown with multiple Shinra divisions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >marvel tier
      Holy fucking shit, shut the fuck up. Stop trying to compare it to the MCU, you zoomer fuckhead. Crisis Core predates that by a decade, and most people here thought that finale was great.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Crisis Core
        Yikes, miss me with this fanfic shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Drink a bottle of bleach, zoomer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go swallow more Jap garden gnome cum, fanboy trash.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Crisis core predates cookie cutter comic books
        Yeah, no.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hell while I am at it lets look at SOLDIER.
        Most people probably thought they were Navy Seals, KGB spetsnaz or some shit on steroids.
        But according to Crisis Core and FF7 Remake and they are basically super hero tier

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All you're doing is continuing to prove yourself a zoomer. In the original, Cloud says that if there were any SOLDIERS present, Avalanche would have been wiped out. They were always superhero tier.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the entire og game Soldier are glorified preatorian guards we barely see them doing jack shit. You fight them at important Shinra installations and that's it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But Acshually it's the same story!! They go to Kalm don't they???!?!??!

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread had the potential to be really good and funny but unfortunately it was utterly ruined by remake hater and Sakaguchi asslicker

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What causes such things?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mentally autistic boomer fanboys who can only live in the past and have way too much free time on their hands are doing everything in their power to destroy all the fun that people may have from the remake or overall new stuff from SE. Those people feel an autistic obligation to "protect" their precious old media by continuously shitting on the new stuff and all the people that like those. Those old fucks don't accomplish shit because the new stuff continues to be successful regardless and in the process, they are getting angry which causes them to sperg out and waste their time on this meaningless shit even more instead of just learning to move on and finding better things to do with their time and energy.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tifa will be dead at that point so who cares.

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Extended universe and prequels in general are dogshit. It is what it is,.you always get comical levels of fanwankery and things blown out of proportions.
    It isn't unique to FF7, square etc

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Visist a literal brothel
    >No prostitutes to be found
    >Cloud can't even get laid with one of the dancer girls
    Fucking bullshit. Immersion ruined

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yuffie is waiting

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheStrifeisRife/status/1542262221086101520

    They even used this in crisis core years later

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they will go even harder with this in the future titles of remake

      Notice how all you can do is deflect? When challenged to point it out in the game itself, you can't. You're a construct, made up pure cope.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you like remake?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, it's pretty good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They will use this plot point for sure, im not even kidding
            I really recommend you to read those things just to see how they work

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even more because is something that is constantly talked about even in 7R's ultimania, so it isnt jus a old thing talked in 1997
              The plot of jenova "fixing" clouds mind by imprinting other memories will have a huge focus

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe they will, but they'll be writing themselves into a corner. The point of the original was that none of Cloud's memories were foreign. If they were, he would have been able to remember
              >joining SOLDIER
              >playing with Tifa
              because Jenova would have just absorbed those memories out of them. But he can't, because he doesn't have any memories like that.

              The entire point of the scene with Tifa inside the Lifestream is that Cloud is falsely remembering his own memories, not that he was implanted with others'.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think at least with zack the intention was always there
                But later they also implemented the idea that cloud got out of his catatonic state when tifa found him because jenova used her perception of him to fill his mind
                They talk about this in one of these books, i dont remember which part

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/TheStrifeisRife/status/1598816746957217792
    btw look this, it is cool

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get in fool!

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