How are things progressing, lads? What untranslated have you been playing lately?
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How are things progressing, lads? What untranslated have you been playing lately?
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Nothing yet, I'm still learning basic kanji.
I just play some stuff on JP servers
Other than that I've got some untranslated doujins to finish but that's because I'm lazy about typesetting
I'm fluent. Thanks DJT for setting me onto this path
what sites/materials did you use? i need to kick my ass back into gear and keep learning again.
I started back when the thread was on Ganker. I used Tae Kims grammar guide and a core 2k deck to start off, mining yotsuba vocabulary just like anyone else really. I would say the biggest boost in fluency i experienced when i exposed myself to Japanese people IRL and watching Japanese content creators online.
If you're intermediate check out The Dictionary of Japanese Grammar. Its more of a look up resource than a grammar guide but its a good next step after finishing any basic grammar guide.
Just read a lot.
Anyone can make it with enough practice
I'm afraid i dont. I stopped reading DJT after it was booted off of Ganker so i dont know anything about DJT tests
Good job but I hope you're not a native English speaker because those people (especially amerimutts) will ruin Japan with their bullshit.
That's already happening without them knowing Japanese.
Nah, Americans who really like Japan enough to move there are pretty based. I went to a pretty left wing uni and of all the people in my Japanese classes, all of the cringe leftists, like the girls with odd hair colors, don't live in Japan now. I suspect that is because in order to get into the country you need to actually have a real job or have a wife/husband there (both impossible tasks for a leftist.)
>Amerimutt bringing politics out of nowhere showing exactly why amerimuts shouldn't be allowed in japan
Like pottery
It's literally a political issue (not that you would understand that since you've never met an American). There are imperial minded people who want to turn Japan into a leftist shit hole full of rapefuges and homosexuals, and there are normal people who like Japanese culture and go there to do the do as the Romans do thing. Like, normal people aren't going to ruin Japan because normal people aren't mentally ill enough to believe that it is their moral imperative to change an entire country.
have a nice day
>Nah, Americans who really like Japan enough to move there are pretty based
No, moving to Japan should be considered a terrible thing even if you learn the language for your hobbies. Marrying a Japanese person and muttifying the country is even worse. Japan must stay Japanese.
>Thanks DJT
DJT is like 99% dekinai tards.
Do you have a DJT test (doesn't matter which level) i want to see an example before starting with N5 even if i can read VNs without any problem.
This. Well, it was half DJT, half untranslated porn.
Struggling to keep up with anki with tiredness and losing motivation
Dungeon Travelers 2-2 in theory, but haven't played in weeks.
Things are going well actually.
what this?
Yeah I'd also like to know what this is.
it's great
ywnlj
I'm already fluent but is there a tool to become even better for professional uses? Last untranslated game I played was NoR.
Read a book? Like any book? Not a light novel though. Those will make your skills regress.
Don't really know what I should start with though. Guess I could ask my mom for one.
I got a bunch of books. Whats interesting to you
the one about journalists. thanks, I'll see if I can buy it through online.
I got it on Amazon. Should be easy enough to find
Are you using romaji for the titles? I can't find that specific one on Amazon. I'll probably have better luck finding a JP reading site and purchase it from there.
Look it up on JP Amazon. If you replace the .co.jp in the url with .com/.de/whatever you can find a seller thats selling to wherever you live. If not it's out of stock and you need to search somewhere else
Found it. Didn't know you can order and ship from foreign through the JP version. Should've done this much earlier to take advantage of the yen crash.
Yeah its a little trick i found. You didn't hear it from me, though
And? Are you super successful yet?
Not yet. I work in sales
歩合制?
完全歩合制じゃないんだけど、結構左右されるね。
つらっ!
>I need to get N3 for a basic job
I need a sample test so i know what to expect bro.
You can google those easily. Theres also a bunch of prep books for n3 if you're gonna spend money. What kinda job are you looking at? N3 is really basic.
Captcha: 42GAY
Lol
Manga translation basically.
You want to do translating at n3? Sorry, thats not gonna happen. You need n2 at the very least if not n1.
I don't have N anything, i just read shit and i think i'm capable of doing the job just fine, they just ask N3 for the job.
You're not gonna be translating. If I had to place a bet I'd say you'll be checking translated texts and checking them for mistakes non natives would make.
How do I get a job translating manga
Not letting you take mine.
>What kinda job are you looking at?
Gay male prostitute.
its so easy to pass jlpt, I don't know why people are so widely afraid of them. look up the passing requirements, you have to get at least 30% in each category and like 55% overall to pass. Even if you just filled in random answers you'd come pretty close to passing.
Yeah... but if you did that... you still don't have the skills, right? Like, what? Sure I can try to RNG my way through but it's up to luck then and your Japanese obviously isn't good enough if you have to resort to guessing the answers. That's just not how things work. Even if you happen to pass, you're still shit. It defeats the entire purpose of the test.
You could pass N1 with near perfect score and it still doesn't mean you're good.
Not him but it kind of does. The test itself is easy if you know your stuff but considering the pass rate of the N1, most people who take it don't know shit. At least when I took my N1, most of the people in there were teens/college kids who were acting like they were too cool for school.
>most people who take it don't know shit
True, but this doesn't mean those who pass the test are good at the language yet. If you had an English proficiency test with similar difficulty, most non-native speakers who passed it would still come off as ESL when writing, and would require a dictionary when reading books much more often than an educated native speaker would.
bro its n3 you could pass it 100% and you're still basically a 3 year old who is abnormally good at kanji.
which test could be considered for actually knowing the language?
https://www.wikihow.com/Relationships/Am-I-Gay-Quiz
i didn't pass
Been playing persona 5 on my Steam Deck thanks for asking 🙂
Last thing i read was a visual novel months ago, haven't started anything else aside from reading some doujinshi
ALL THE GOOD GAMES HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED
How would you know
I've tried them, all mediocre
gotta replay everygame in jp
All the translations are bad
Nice translation
He literally translated it perfectly but used the animal language. Go learn dogspeak newbie.
how would you know this if you don't know moonrunes?
GBA Summon Night Swordcraft Story 3
Still not patched and the it's the only one I care about now that Tales of Destiny remake got a nice patch
I'm actually improving my shitty understanding of vocal japanese just because of vtubers
Not really a fan of them but they're good for that, though you can use any japanese youtuber
VIDEOGAMES
I just finished P5R and am currently doing a second run. After that I'll probably continue my rance9 playthrough. I kind of surprised myself but I guess I'm really at the point where I can just read whatever I want and don't even need a dictionary anymore. Unsurprisingly, using the language in real life drastically improves your comprehension.
やっぱりその感じに匹敵するものはないですね。
H A L L O E V E R Y N Y A N
I W I S H I W E R E A B I R D
How long must I grind this godforsaken language to be able to read the scrolling text at the beginning of super robot taisen games without having to take a picture of my screen? I've been at it for five fricking years now and it feels like I'm not geting any faster no matter how much I read everyday:(
>5 years
give up
can you post an example of that
?list=PL7MTtZOH9IgyffRcGXzWN0DnouUhaNhAe&t=307
this kind of text crawl, it's about 5 min. in if the timestamp doesn't work.
?list=PLrvz59CIqv4j3SEwnuyO2p_9jE17RDwe6&t=46
also this one and others from Stings Dept. Heaven games.
I'm not fluent by any means but I think this is pretty damn hard, I wouldn't worry about it. Maybe at 5 years of hard studying you should be able to follow along but its not a big deal if you can't.
Do your reps!
CUTE
I started for a while and I had a good streak going but I stopped and forgot most of the stuff but when I occasionally come across a kana I know I try to remember it.
I gave up some months ago.
what do with leeches? cards from 3 months ago are becoming shitty leeches
or should i drop rtk? for some reason it's prevalent with the rtk deck. i'm mixing the answer with the ones from core
Dunno what to tell you. I only ever tried a core deck already deep into studying and though it was total trash. Anki itself isn't a bad tool but the core decks are stupid imo. At least if that's your only means of studying vocabulary. Or rather that's all it is. Vocabulary. Single words. But you're not studying characters. You need to do both at the same time. This is the new kanji, here are its meanings, here are its reading and these are some words it forms. Core decks don't do that afaik. The give you a single word and the kanji keeps showing up again and again in different characters without ever concentrating that info on a single card.
Don't get me wrong. This isn't the only method you should employ when studying. You should literally do what the kanji decks do too. But not exclusively! It's ineffective as hell. You need to be able to guess the reading and meaning of a new kanji compound if you now the kanji it's comprised of. And not because you've studied 40 words it's a part of individually and got it down EVENTUALLY. Study the fricking joyo readings of characters or you won't be able to speak, read aloud or understand spoken Japanese reliably for a long ass time. It's just not as simple as: "But I'm studying actual words. Those are useful right? Surely that must be enough!" No! You need to do both at the same time. People here also act like learning all joyo kanji is trivial and shouldn't take that long but they're all fakes. Take your time. Whether you want to believe it or not, you' in it for the long run anyway. And let's be real here, you're on Ganker. You're neither a genius nor very busy.
In anki? You mean you're certain you got them down and won't forget them for a long time? How about you suspend the fricking flashcard then?
I'm here now until next october. Just doing language school and breezing thru it since I self studied up to around n2/n1 for two years prior. After school just hit the city up, talk with locals and hang out. the listening is the one thing I should have practiced more though. I'm not really into anime or anything so I never got to hear much jp, at least relative to how much I read books. And thats really biting me in the ass now but whatever, I'm grinding it and am improving at a decent rate.
The country is really cool. The weebs who hype it up are bad but the ultra jaded djt homosexuals are so much worse.
I got the entirety of march off of school too so I'm in the midst of planning the gigatrip full month of events. If anyone has any must do's, let me know
What jap vidya have you been playing?
ライブアライブ and 東京放課後サモナーズ
opening a book and reading it
Where are you staying?
I tried to play Persona 2 Innocent Sin after 10 years of learning japanese but it was too hard
Started learning in 2011, have been living in Japan since 2017.
So far so good. Got a job, two or three days I work from home even, play video games afterwards, enjoy you guys not being here.
Are you white and do the natives hate you for living there?
Yes, no. They will hate you though, Ameridark.
There are some SEA people here already. Luckily they mostly work in cheap restaurants or coffee places, so interactions with them are strictly professional.
I enjoy you not being here.
Why would they hate me but they don't hate you?
Why so hostile
>why would they hate the smelly loud ape and not the well behaved clean human?
Why do you assume I'm apelike or an American? I'm neither.
Why is whiteness a touchy subject for you? You some kind of oogabooga Syrian rapefugee?
Usually Ameridarks (and Western European) are loud and annoying. For a year I lived in a sharehouse with some and they'D party on Fridays. Eventually someone called the police.
He is just another butthurt sexpat
Remember they literally have a reddit for mindbroken foreigners living in japan where they do nothing but complaint
Typical Japan expat found only online. White supremacists who rage about immigrants but moved to Japan. Eternally butthurt because they know they'll only ever be respected as much as Bob-Sensei the sexpat ALT.
White countries should stay white and Japan should stay Japanese, this isn't "supremacy". Muttmerica can do whatever in their own country.
By 2030 1/4 people in japan will not be japanese
t. domographic researcher
that seems highly unlikely since it's still 97+% japanese
It happens fast, Sweden was 97+% Swedish like 30 years ago. Japan gave women rights a bit later so they're just behind the curve.
enjoy ruining the place you love
It's not Japan I love, its being in not shitty fricking USA
Come home white man
>sitka
>advocating anyone move to SE AK
lolle t alaskan, escaped to japan
I exclusively read shitty shonen manga I buy for 110 yen from BookOff.
I only started last week. I'm still learning Hiragana. I just want to play some jp only vidya, pad my resume, and vacation in Japan one day. Definitely not looking to move there, although I'm a pretty open minded person, so I can see that changing in the future. I keep hearing people talk about Aniki. Is that a good tool to use to learn?
its anki, and its just a smart flash card app. I'd download the core deck with the native voiced sentences and then just start the long road of kanji asap. Once you know a couple hundred, and you've gone through whatever beginner grammar resource you like, you can start playing some kiddy game (I did paper mario). It'll be a b***h and take forever but doable. write down words you don't know, interesting phrases, etc. make flashcards out of them with anki, do those what you got nothing else going on. It starts off boring and tedious but once you can struggle through games aimed at adults, its really fun and awarding. Thats where I'm at now. Can blast thru kids games but games aimed at adults are slow going but rich with things to learn from. It's fun, you gotta commit to how tedious and frustrating its gonna be at certain points though.
fukuoka, from a friend's recommendation. Its not like I've been anywhere else but I like it a lot. Has a cozy community vibe despite still being a pretty huge and dense city.
Would you need to know japanese to go to a concert in Japan?
it will depend on the venue
Not really. As long as you can get tickets you'll be fine.
Wizards Symphony on the Switch, but I haven't played it in like two weeks. It's just a dungeon crawler, but it's fully voiced.
How do you deal with unknown words? At least when reading in the browser you can use yomichan or whatever to find out, but emulating on ppsspp or with a real book, you either spend quite a few minutes playing with radicals on jisho to frankenstein the various kanji that make up the word, or if you kinda remember 1 of the kanji from some other word then you search for the other word and cut and paste that kanji and search for "more words starting/ending with this kanji", or maybe you try to write it in romaji but you're never sure if its sho or jo or ryou or ryu etc etc.
for me its really just knowing 2000 or so kanji. I run into words I don't know everyday but I pretty much always know the kanji so I can just guess the reading in jisho or frankenstein it via the words I do know that contain that kanji. That might be a shit long-term type answer but you gotta learn your moon runes baby. Until then I guess just play shit with furigana or accept that you're gonna spend half of your game/reading time fiddling on your phone.
>How do you deal with unknown words?
Look up fricking everything, over and over. You can't intuit this fricking language at all, it's all grind.
Learning Japanese is such a meme.. Imagine that anon sitting in his dark basement trying to memorize the asiatic symbol of washing rice
Not even Japanese people know this Kanji. Shit like this is strictly used to demoralize beginners and farm for (You)s
I randomly clicked on some bushu. I'm not trying to remember that.
>he doesn't wash his rice
Frick, have your moms not raised you properly?
Why would you remove all of the vitamins from it? Unwashed rice tastes just as good and is healthier.
If by vitamins you mean arsenic, which tastes like arse XD
If you don't know the kanji in some word, you could draw it in a handwriting recognition program like Kanjipad on the PC. It's probably faster than trying to find it based on radicals in a dictionary.
Just see that the software you use can actually recognize kanji that are possibly drawn poorly. Some programs are really bad at it while others work almost every time.
Unless it's an important word in the sentence, I generally can infer its meaning from the context
Progress went a little slower once i stopped doing anki. But it's fine that way, doing anki every single day was a chore.
every day i come closer to killing myself due to the insane, never ending tinnitus i got from one dose of the moderna vaccine
i have no real joy in life anymore and video games and everything else i cared about have totally stopped mattering to me. i buy them all the time, searching for something, and i just can't find it.
That's weird. I got 4 modernas and am completely fine.
that is great.
Spike protein just goes all over the place and kills random cells, it's not about the brand. It's practically guaranteed that nothing will happen, but you can also get paralyzed. A numbers game.
How long after did that start then?
within about 12 hours
sue the government
good luck bro.
I got two shots of Pfizer last year
Ive been studing for 5 years and I still don't know how to conjugate anything, I just add tbh all over the place
This tbh
stupids, you say ru instead, tbhru
just add degozaru to the end of everything and you're gooddegozaru
how do you say you've been 'studying for 5 years' with a straight face. This thread is always full of people who say they've been studying for 5 years or 10 years and its just bs. You guys aren't studying.
By studying he means hes been shitposting in these here dekinai threads on Ganker
it's not my fault I have adhd
this and also -ですません for negative conju~
I'm getting filtered by the -te oku grammar
Please, motivate me with some sweet untranslated hentai vidya. I've already sunk too many hours to get dekinai'd
If you're generally incompetent, porn vidya is above your pay grade. Read manga and play Dragon Quest or something.
But anon, playing DQ and read manga is all I fricking do already
I just want to discuss those obscure fricked up untranslated hentai games with my Gankerros...
Start by rereading the fricking grammar guide.
Play DQ10
>studying grammar
NGMI
Still reading my graded readers. Can't complain.
Playing through Feda: The Emblem of Justice. One one hand, it uses hiragana a lot which makes it easier for me to find the words, but on the other hand who the frick had the bright idea to make the text autoscroll with no option to stop it
also playing Digimon Survive, weird font but textractor works so that doesn't worry me much
>but on the other hand who the frick had the bright idea to make the text autoscroll with no option to stop i
pause emulation
Yes, I know, still sucks because it interrupts the music.
Maybe play Langrisser. 3 is a bit shit though.
In Japan on holiday at the moment, studying for about 18 months. Just finished a week around traveling and now in the capital.
Genuinely saved my ass a few times when I could ask the locals for help and a couple even gave lifts when I went too far in the sticks. First time speaking it so it's given a huge confidence boost there and made me realise I know a decent amount of words.
Tokyo so far has been people speaking English before I can open my mouth though, I expect that to continue until I leave
This is why i prefer Osaka. They dont give a frick about trying to speak English. They just let it rip in Osakaben
I'm in kyushu and I've noticed shop stuff love to throw in a little english phrase here and there. I think its cute. I get the 'zank you very much' when I get the receipt a lot. I went to a coffee shop and noticed the two guys working there huddled around my cup for a minute and was thinking like, did I frick something up when I ordered? But then later when I was drinking it I noticed something like 'thank you so very much for coming to the store. have a nice day :)' written on the side. Very nicecore culture toward the bright eyed tourists, I like it
What are you studying? I've been thinking of studying something abroad now that i have a decent amount of money saved up. Nothing serious but something a little more than a vacation if that makes sense.
who has been to shikoku? i'm planning to travel to japan for the first time recently and i want to see mostly real japan.just quiet small places. i would like to go to some larger temples though. i want to go to shikoku because i want to do the henro in the next few years of my life.
There's no game worth learning a new language for. Especially an extremely difficult one like Japanese.
I considered learning it to move there and work but the society is just hostile towards everyone else.
No point in learning the language.
japanese is a really easy language, only the written part is hard, and you can just basically half-ignore that and learn to speak it anyway.
Learning to speak is not that useful because you shouldn't want to move there. Maybe useful as a tourist. Reading is where it's at, for hobbies.
>you shouldn't want to move there
I dunno, I sorta like the idea of sorting my trash. All I want in life is peace and quiet and to be left alone, and for things to be clean and people to be polite and mindful...I'd actually think of giving it a shot one day if my life in the US fails, which it basically has.
I'd be extremely ashamed to make the country that little bit worse for the Japanese by staying there permanently. I guess someone who doesn't live in an ethnically homogeneous country wouldn't understand.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
what's so funny about that?
I don't care about speaking it, I just want to play them funny gayms
その逆なのでは?
No, that's probably right, from their perspective. They are likely simply unmotivated to learn + the way they learn English in school is worthless.
I have no idea what those e-girls are saying.
Compared with Japanese, English or Chinese are really ez. The grammar is fundamentally different, but if you understand that the rest is just memorizing vocabulary.
>English
>ez
thats what "those e-girls" are saying.
then they're moronic
There's no point to anything. Learning the language is something fun to do while you waste your life away with video games.
Visual novels
What VN is this?
Nevermind found it
https://vndb.org/v21279/
Shame about the blindness when he got older
I use Kumo Reader to read syosetu novels on my phone; remember to use some adblocker app too because the ads are fricking annoying. I'm thinking of making my own version to practice some react native too.
arigatoe gozaemasu! watashi mainichi benkyou shimasu tbh
Slow but steady. Endless walls of なにのなんのかなんになにのんか that actually don't do shit are really fricking me up.
Why is anki 2.1 so fricking UGLY? Is there an addon to get the old design back?
when can I stop doing anki
Once you're done with all the kanji
now
Anyone else wants to learn mandarin after becoming fluent in japanese?
Kinda. But the tones put me off. And it's not that much of a wage booster
Can someone tell me why 以上です。 is used as a sort of dismissal like "that's all" or "this is it"? I never quite got the idea behind it. Is it like, we're at the bottom of the metaphorical page? Can't make sense of it.
>Is it like, we're at the bottom of the metaphorical page
Basically.