I think the game will be fine, it just annoys me that it won't sell all that well because the PS5's install base is fricking shit.
So of course schizos will take completely out of context statistics and compare apples to oranges to PROVE that this game is somehow worse than other entries of the series.
>I think the game will be fine
Same but I’d prefer it to be more than that. So far I haven’t seen anything that I’d consider an issue for me enjoying it but I also have yet to notice anything that’s particularly appealing or enticing
>I also have yet to notice anything that’s particularly appealing or enticing
My problem is it doesn't seem like a game I'd buy a PS5 for. I don't have one now and it's really the first exclusive I've been interested in. But I can wait a year for it to come to PC.
I am somewhat in this boat as well but I might get a PS5, play the game then sell it used or something. I just don't think my PC is good enough to run the game and it is more expensive to upgrade that for one game.
Probably poor day one sales. If the game is good though word of mouth willnhave sales pick up. The damage XV did by being such a shitshow has people holding out.
7R sold less
XV did 1.1m phys+dig launch in Japan
7R 1m phys+dig
XV had higher physical
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XV did 1.1m >Infinity +1 playground argument with no source
classic bazzington
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tabata and SIEJA confirned it did 1.1m at launch in Japan
7R in week 12 was 931k phys and was only at 1m
xv in week 12 was 946k phys and at 1.1m already
11 months ago
Anonymous
>1.1m at launch in Japan >1 month after launch >not first weekend
kek
KEK
11 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't say it took a month to hit 1.1m, thats just when the SIEJA event took place where they mentioned FFXV sold 1.1m in japan already
Again 7R only 1m while XV 1.1m
xv was 928k 8 weeks after launch
7r was 916k 8 weeks after launch
7R was 931k phys 12 weeks after launch
XV was 946k phys 12 weeks after launch
11 months ago
Anonymous
>sold 1.1m in japan already >After a month of sales
lol >Again 7R only 1m >first 3 days >I swear it didn't sell a single copy after
lmao even
11 months ago
Anonymous
7R literally has lower physical sales how are you this fricking blind?
7R only did 1m at launch
XV 1.1m at launch
11 months ago
Anonymous
>has lower physical sales >just don't think about those digital sales >those don't exist
h a h a
11 months ago
Anonymous
XV 1.1m phys+dig in launch
7R 1m phys+dig in launch
XV has higher combined sales
XV has higher physical sales
cope
XV 10m
7R 5m, even including the 500k from Steam and the small amount from PS5 port which is 500k at absolute best that is still only 6m 7R vs 10m XV
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XV 1.1m phys+dig in launch
after a month >7R 1m phys+dig in launch
first 3 days
11 months ago
Anonymous
>December 28th is somehow after a month from nov 29th >the sales themselves are from earlier anyway and the report is only at that date because it was a SIEJA event where they talked about a lot of things including XV
FFXV has higher physical sales
FFXV has higher overall sales
Cope
1.1m at launch is higher than 1m at launch
11 months ago
Anonymous
>December 28th is somehow after a month from nov 29th
Yes. >the sales themselves are from earlier
an lie you just made up. >1.1m at launch
after a month
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nope its under a month and the event being on that day doesn't mean that's the day the numbers are from you moron
>an
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
XV sold more
11 months ago
Anonymous
>that's the day the numbers
They would use the most recent, up to date numbers. Not wait weeks to announce them. >XV sold less
correct
11 months ago
Anonymous
That those are the numbers posted then does not mean that is what it had hit that day you moron
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
7R 1m
XV 1.1m
7R 3.5m day 3
XV 5m day 1
7R 5m 4 months
XV 5m day 1
XV 6m 1 month
XV 8.4m 2 years
7R even with generous numbers for PS5 and steam numbers plus additional ps4 numbers it would barely be at 6.5m at absolute best
XV sold more
cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
>what it had hit that day
They would use the most recent, up to date numbers. Not wait weeks to announce them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Ignored my post
Lol
No they use whatever se told them its at which is 1.1m because it hit 1.1m already much earlier
>XIV's peak: 97 >XV's peak: 95
Ignoring the fodder, it seems Yoshi P can only produce masterpieces. The franchise is in good hands.
Too bad XIV is 8.0 while XV is 8.7
11 months ago
Anonymous
>because it hit 1.1m already much earlier
And where is the proof? Specifically that it hit 1.1 in its first 3 days.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that is the launch number
and again
7R 931k in 12 months
XV 946k in 12 months
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The fact that is the launch number
That is the number a month after launch.
694,262 units is the first week physical sales.
Where is the source saying it sold 400+k copies digitally its first week?
11 months ago
Anonymous
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
11 months ago
Anonymous
>physical only >digital doesn't count because I say so
bazzington just can't deal with the facts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
mageknight14 you're on suicide watch...
XVs 1.1m is higher than 7Rs 1m
XVs 946k is higher than 7Rs 931k
XVs 10m is higher than 7Rs 5m
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XVs 1.1m
sales a month after launch
You still won't post XV's digital launch sales lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>after
dec 28 is not a month after nov 29
You still wont post FF7Rs digital sales lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>dec 28 is not a month after nov 29
It is >You still wont post FF7Rs digital sales
300k plus.
11 months ago
Anonymous
29 days in nov to dec is not over a month its literally under a month
and xv had 1.1m at launch and higher physical sales than 7R too
cope mageknight14
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and xv had 1.1m at launch
where is the proof that XV had 400k digital sales?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The fact is had 1.1m at launch and higher physical than 7R too
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The fact is had 1.1m at launch
With no proof of those 400k. In fact, SE said 7remake was the highest selling game on PSN in its history.
So XV couldn't have sold more than 300k.
You have lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>on PSN
because it was only on PSN moron
XV is on ps4 xb1 and pc and others are on pc too where all pf them hsve higher actual digital numbers
and xv sold more on ps4 overall than 7r anyway
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XV is on ps4 xb1
The only two that matter here, because this is jap launch sales.
No one in japan own an xbox one, so their sales are non-existent.
So ps4 it is. >xv sold more on ps4 overall than 7r
Reminder, this is a japanese launch sales discussion.
You lied about the sales and couldn't back it up. You lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Except that "highest psn" was not for japan it was ww, ergo ww sales are used
your literal deflected to "highest psn" which was not about japan
7R sold half of XV
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ergo ww sales are used
because all regions had their digital sales boosted.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/docs/200806/page01.html >The HD Game sub-segment saw both sales and profits rise YoY thanks not only to the release of the console titles “FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE” and “TRIALS OF MANA,” but also to a higher percentage of digital sales and to licensing income. >A: In 1Q, Western countries went into lockdown and businesses in Japan were asked to close temporarily as part of the government’s state of emergency declaration. As a result, demand for game downloads increased.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/ar_2021en.pdf >We tend to sell a larger percentage of blockbuster titles like “FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE” on physical disks in order to ensure that such titles make it to the market in substantial volumes. However, lockdown orders and state of emergency declarations were issued as governments attempted to curb the spread of COVID-19. For this reason, we had no choice but to limit production of packaged games, and our customers were also unable to go out and about as they would like. As such, our customers increasingly made their purchases online rather than in stores as the digital shift gained additional momentum due to both demand- and supply-side factors. Our profits benefitted substantially from this development.. The pandemic hastened the digital evolution of our customers’ buying behavior, and we expect the resulting change to be irreversible and for this trend to continue once the pandemic is over. We intend to further promote the shift to digital going forward.
Digital sales were never like this beforehand. You refuse to prove that XV sold 400k digitally its first week.
You have lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you posted has anything to do with anything I said you fricking idiot
7R sold less than XV globally
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Nothing you posted has anything to do with anything >businesses in Japan were asked to close temporarily as part of the government’s state of emergency declaration. As a result, demand for game downloads increased. >As such, our customers increasingly made their purchases online rather than in stores as the digital shift gained additional momentum due to both demand- and supply-side factors. Our profits benefitted substantially from this development.. The pandemic hastened the digital evolution of our customers’ buying behavior, and we expect the resulting change to be irreversible and for this trend to continue once the pandemic is over.
You cannot prove XV sold 400k digitally in japan launch week. >7R sold less than XV globally
You're deflecting to another stat that isn't the focus, because you lost.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>noooo
Cope moron its called an average
if you're going to seethe over number of reviews then will you seethe over ff14 xpacs being botted to frick by xiv cultists falsely giving in 10s from throwaway accounts just to try and inflate the score?
Oh no Black person, someone who didn't drop out of high school in the 10th grade caught ran your numbers properly!
11 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you're actually fricking moronic
combing all the scores of ff14 is 1208, divide that by 15 and the result is 80.533333333 aka 8.0
if you don't include ff14 1.0 then just deduct 49 from 1208 which is 1159
1159 is thus the sum of 14 scores, so divide by 14 and its 82.7857142 etc, round up to 8.3
FF15s scores sum to 1307 with 15 scores, and so 1307 divided by 15 is 87.13333333333 aka 8.7
cope moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dude how the frick did you miss the point of the math correction this hard despite it being explained like 3 times
You are weighing review scores with a double digit sample size equally to review squares with quadruple digit sample sizes
That is not how statistics work in the first world
11 months ago
Anonymous
Something tells me he isn't arguing in good faith
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Something tells me he isn't arguing in good faith
the XV autist never is, he will completely ignore reality every time
11 months ago
Anonymous
>basic averages >basic
Yes, case in point. There's nothing basic when it comes to analysis of large sets of data.
XVI troons having a complete meltdown after getting eviscerated again
11 months ago
Anonymous
Something tells me he isn't arguing in good faith
How are YOU this fricking moronic? There is no weight bullshit to factor in, its getting all the scores and averaging them, stop coping
>non canon alternate timeline bonus 3rd year dlc was canned while the final canon dlc released after that happened anyway and that dlc only got greenlit in 2018 due to fan demand and only was canned because tabata decided to leave SE to start his own thing and SE didn't want to do it without him
No actual dev work had even been done on them because they got canned 5 months after being announced
All canon xv dlc released
cope
meanwhile the original ff14 2.0 was cancelled and ff7r ps4 dlc was cancelled and ff7r canon tifa chapter cancelled and ff16 ps4 version cancelled
true ending is in the base game you fricking moron twewysperg
being non canon doesn't mean its still not official you fricktard, official content like in dbz games where goku fuses with freeza or teams up with cell or whatever the frick, it's not canon but it's still OFFICIAL
learn the difference already you stupid fricking xiv Black person holy fricking shit how are you this fricking stupid?
it was being made the same reason the alternate ending in episode ignis is a thing you fricking moron, to show different outcomes if different things that weren't beholden to the canon happened, it literally wasn't part of the actual story and the true ending is the story in the base game which they literally fricking said when they announced it you fricking moron.
?t=1482 >The theme is an ALTERNATE grand finale, of course we're not trying to overwrite the existing ending, the ending for FFXV is THE ending for FFXV, but like we did with Episode Ignis we want to give players a choice to see a possible different outcome.
Meanwhile ff7r has its canon true backstory in a novel and its true ending hasn't even fricking released yet while requiring you to buy a PS5 and play mobile garbage canon to ff7r to understand the actual unfinished garbage that 7R always will be.
if it flops in japan but sells 5 mil in the west in a year it just confirms that square made the right choice. they'll continue to pander to the west going forward. the only way that can turn around is if japan suddenly has 5 million more young gaming people, but they can't with their birth rate.
Lots of the previews seem to be complaining about linear level design even in the open areas, proving once again that CBU3 cannot design anything besides MMO corridor "dungeons" and tiny empty areas.
I expect the story will at least be competent, however.
My argument is that your "statistics" are incredibly deceptive. You've included the 1.0 version of the game which wasn't worked on by the guy you hate so much alongside several collections with 7-13 reviews on them.
If you presented this in a statistics course at a university they'd laugh in your face.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're just proving you cant read or count
the collections aren't even being counted in that average, theyre just there for visual to show everything
read the fricking chart
and even with 1.0 removed the average of ff14 is 8.3 so still lower than xvs 8.7
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can't read either
You've included reviews with a sample size of 14 and weighed them the same as reviews with sample sizes of ~2000. This is statistical vomit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>noooo
Cope moron its called an average
if you're going to seethe over number of reviews then will you seethe over ff14 xpacs being botted to frick by xiv cultists falsely giving in 10s from throwaway accounts just to try and inflate the score?
Who cares? Developers don’t care about that market anymore that’s why they are designing their games to appeal to westerners. Not even Japanese developers care about the opinions of Japanese gamers
>but the Jap sales
They didn't even bother doing Jap lipsync. They're pretty much cucking the Jap audience in favor of the average HBO slop consuming mutts. It's going to bite them in the ass.
Sales threads are cancer. Just popping in to say that FF15 was the worst final fantasy and the only one I couldn't push through to completion because it was so bad, but FF16 is looking to revive the series
What formula? You don't weigh 14 reviews the same as 1880.
XVI kun you literally cant fricking count, holy shit
Learn how averages work
To get the average of the scores you add each score together then you divide by the amount of scores you added
15 userscores for ff14 were counted which had a sum of 1208, I'll be generous and remove ff4 1.0s 49 from that so it's 1159
1159 divided by 14 is 82.78
Therefore the average of ff14 overall ffom ARR to EW is 82.78
15 userscores for ff15 were counted which had a sum of 1307, and that is not even adding in the userscore for the VR monster of the deep or the 2D pixel brawler a kings tale both of which had 8.7 userscores, so it still wouldve been 8.7 even with them added
1307 divided by 15 is 87.13
Even with the other two 8.7s added thats 1481 divided by 17 which is still 87
combing all the scores of ff14 is 1208, divide that by 15 and the result is 80.533333333 aka 8.0
if you don't include ff14 1.0 then just deduct 49 from 1208 which is 1159
1159 is thus the sum of 14 scores, so divide by 14 and its 82.7857142 etc, round up to 8.3
FF15s scores sum to 1307 with 15 scores, and so 1307 divided by 15 is 87.13333333333 aka 8.7
cope moron
Why did you make the same reply twice? See
Dude how the frick did you miss the point of the math correction this hard despite it being explained like 3 times
You are weighing review scores with a double digit sample size equally to review squares with quadruple digit sample sizes
That is not how statistics work in the first world
[...]
How are YOU this fricking moronic? There is no weight bullshit to factor in, its getting all the scores and averaging them, stop coping
Yes there is. It curbs the reviewbombing and astroturfing you seem to pretend to care so much about by not giving equal weight to games with very few reviews.
You aren't really confuting anything. You are just pointing and calling it cope because >muh formula is better than your formula since it gives me the result I want
Read a book or three
https://www.displayr.com/the-correct-treatment-of-sampling-weights-in-statistical-tests/
https://education.ufl.edu/educational-research/files/2014/10/Survey-Data-Analysis.pdf
You arent even arguing anything, you're just coping because the averages BTFO you
There is no weight to factor in, its purely just the results of their scores to get an actual score
XVI trannies literally cant even do basic math
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you arent even arguing anything because my formula is best >no weight to factor I don't want to listen to you explaining basic analysis to me
Yeah. American education I guess
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its literally basic averages
cope
your lost
guaranteed barry replies.jpg
damn ff14 is doing poorly
11 months ago
Anonymous
>your lost
Math AND English?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Fails at math >Fails at reading >Can't even properly setup an argument
Oh no, he's gone full moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Answer this:
If I were to create 10 Metacritic accounts today (not that difficult or time consuming to do) and then...
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn's PS5 edition?
The user score would drop from 7.4 to 3.7, and the review count would rise from 14 to 24
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker's PC edition?
The user score would be unchanged, and the review count would rise from 1270 to 1280
Do you think weighing these two titles equally is fair? If so, why?
>XVI-kun fails at basic math and basic reading >XVI-kun cant even do basic averages
Answer this:
If I were to create 10 Metacritic accounts today (not that difficult or time consuming to do) and then...
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn's PS5 edition?
The user score would drop from 7.4 to 3.7, and the review count would rise from 14 to 24
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker's PC edition?
The user score would be unchanged, and the review count would rise from 1270 to 1280
Do you think weighing these two titles equally is fair? If so, why?
Small correction, the user score would drop from 7.4 to 4.3, I added a few too many reviews
Dumbass it doesn't matter how many reviews were added per score, its still going to be the same amount of averages counted because its literally the average of the sum of the averages
11 months ago
Anonymous
>basic averages >basic
Yes, case in point. There's nothing basic when it comes to analysis of large sets of data.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Answer this:
If I were to create 10 Metacritic accounts today (not that difficult or time consuming to do) and then...
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn's PS5 edition?
The user score would drop from 7.4 to 3.7, and the review count would rise from 14 to 24
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker's PC edition?
The user score would be unchanged, and the review count would rise from 1270 to 1280
Do you think weighing these two titles equally is fair? If so, why?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Small correction, the user score would drop from 7.4 to 4.3, I added a few too many reviews
Read a book or three
https://www.displayr.com/the-correct-treatment-of-sampling-weights-in-statistical-tests/
https://education.ufl.edu/educational-research/files/2014/10/Survey-Data-Analysis.pdf
>If you have been carefully reading through the above analyses, you will have realized that in each of the examples, the correct answer was obtained by performing the test using the unweighted data.
moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
Bad faith actor, your existence is nothing but wasting yours and others time.
Supposedly even a lot of Japanese are asking for it to get a PC port so I don't know how hard it being a PS5 exclusive will hit it, now that supplies aren't nearly as bad as they were before.
There were some posts around here a while ago from Japanese social media showing lots of Japanese people saying they wanted a PC version because they couldn't get a PS5. Could have changed with supply, however.
I see Barry is still salty that people are more interested in this game over the literal garbage he shilled
Why'd you post lying clickbait from a right wing chud tuber who lied because that was just 4 empty steelbooks that get given away for free not actual copies of the game and the steelbooks always get thrown out too
Jej he's having another big one today. Did you get your porn transferred out of your shitposting folder yet Barry?
Remember when you posted that pic because you where so shaken? Was it because flopspoken was getting drug?
It deserved it. 300k+ polys on that hideous character model and like 16 on the environment lmfao
16 is going to outsell 15 and flopspoken combined.
XVI-kun why are you having a melty? 300k poly is extremely standard in 9th gen, hell aloy on hzd on ps4 has 400k poly on her model
also why are you too pussy to post actual in game screenshots? let alone podting outdated builds
>Posting cutscenes model instead of in game model
It's clear that Luminous was unqualified. Luckily they were busy with floprotten while Yoshi-P saves square again.
These barry threads never cease to amaze. It's unfortunate the amount of morons falling for it too. XV (versus XIII) was hyped and marketed for over a decade. That's where the sales came from. But now that the 2 decade long shitstorm of 13 garbage is done and over with after wrecking the series name, influencing the company to be more western, failing, then selling off everything from Eidos that they worked with since the squaresoft days, we can go back to simple 2-3 year announce and releases like normal game developers used to do.
very bigly
literally fricking who
no idea but it's anti-XVI so Barry is going to spam it
>You'll never be able to damage control cancelling DLC
especially when XVI devs said that XV was incomplete
FF16 is incomplete because ff16 has no party and no hidden dungeons and no minigames and barely any rpg mechanics and less content than xv
and ff16 is bombing hard as frick
>resorting to posting comment section screencaps
I can smell the desperation.
Pretty soon devs are going to be hiring you to shitpost their games since it always has the opposite of the intended effect
So you're saying it's a Playstation game made for the Playstation audience.
>this is enough to make FF16 gays piss and shit themselves
bitchmade
>Has to resort to posting from a literal who comment andy
This is just funny at this point.
It's been confirmed over for a while.
Me being a huge fan of XVI is a foregone conclusion, so I really hope the game is actually good.
it will sell fine in the west, who cares about japan
FF games need to sell like 10 million to break even these days cause square is full of genuine morons
I think the game will be fine, it just annoys me that it won't sell all that well because the PS5's install base is fricking shit.
So of course schizos will take completely out of context statistics and compare apples to oranges to PROVE that this game is somehow worse than other entries of the series.
>I think the game will be fine
Same but I’d prefer it to be more than that. So far I haven’t seen anything that I’d consider an issue for me enjoying it but I also have yet to notice anything that’s particularly appealing or enticing
>I also have yet to notice anything that’s particularly appealing or enticing
My problem is it doesn't seem like a game I'd buy a PS5 for. I don't have one now and it's really the first exclusive I've been interested in. But I can wait a year for it to come to PC.
I am somewhat in this boat as well but I might get a PS5, play the game then sell it used or something. I just don't think my PC is good enough to run the game and it is more expensive to upgrade that for one game.
FFVII Remake is on PC and PS5 and it sold less than the original.
Action RPGs are a trash genre.
huge flop hopefully
Was gay shit being in this game ever confirmed?
It was confirmed? Shame.
Probably poor day one sales. If the game is good though word of mouth willnhave sales pick up. The damage XV did by being such a shitshow has people holding out.
XV saved the franchise and 7R sold on par with XVs JP sales
FF14 EW is the latest AAA FF thing so FF14 EW is responsible for killing FF
>7R sold on par with XVs JP sales
7R sold more lol
>but muh physical charts
7r sold more lmao
7R sold less but still near par with XV
and there it is
>7R sold less
lol nope, 1 million the first week in japan.
7R sold less
XV did 1.1m phys+dig launch in Japan
7R 1m phys+dig
XV had higher physical
>XV did 1.1m
>Infinity +1 playground argument with no source
classic bazzington
Tabata and SIEJA confirned it did 1.1m at launch in Japan
7R in week 12 was 931k phys and was only at 1m
xv in week 12 was 946k phys and at 1.1m already
>1.1m at launch in Japan
>1 month after launch
>not first weekend
kek
KEK
That doesn't say it took a month to hit 1.1m, thats just when the SIEJA event took place where they mentioned FFXV sold 1.1m in japan already
Again 7R only 1m while XV 1.1m
xv was 928k 8 weeks after launch
7r was 916k 8 weeks after launch
7R was 931k phys 12 weeks after launch
XV was 946k phys 12 weeks after launch
>sold 1.1m in japan already
>After a month of sales
lol
>Again 7R only 1m
>first 3 days
>I swear it didn't sell a single copy after
lmao even
7R literally has lower physical sales how are you this fricking blind?
7R only did 1m at launch
XV 1.1m at launch
>has lower physical sales
>just don't think about those digital sales
>those don't exist
h a h a
XV 1.1m phys+dig in launch
7R 1m phys+dig in launch
XV has higher combined sales
XV has higher physical sales
cope
XV 10m
7R 5m, even including the 500k from Steam and the small amount from PS5 port which is 500k at absolute best that is still only 6m 7R vs 10m XV
>XV 1.1m phys+dig in launch
after a month
>7R 1m phys+dig in launch
first 3 days
>December 28th is somehow after a month from nov 29th
>the sales themselves are from earlier anyway and the report is only at that date because it was a SIEJA event where they talked about a lot of things including XV
FFXV has higher physical sales
FFXV has higher overall sales
Cope
1.1m at launch is higher than 1m at launch
>December 28th is somehow after a month from nov 29th
Yes.
>the sales themselves are from earlier
an lie you just made up.
>1.1m at launch
after a month
Nope its under a month and the event being on that day doesn't mean that's the day the numbers are from you moron
>an
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
XV sold more
>that's the day the numbers
They would use the most recent, up to date numbers. Not wait weeks to announce them.
>XV sold less
correct
That those are the numbers posted then does not mean that is what it had hit that day you moron
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
7R 1m
XV 1.1m
7R 3.5m day 3
XV 5m day 1
7R 5m 4 months
XV 5m day 1
XV 6m 1 month
XV 8.4m 2 years
7R even with generous numbers for PS5 and steam numbers plus additional ps4 numbers it would barely be at 6.5m at absolute best
XV sold more
cope
>what it had hit that day
They would use the most recent, up to date numbers. Not wait weeks to announce them.
No they use whatever se told them its at which is 1.1m because it hit 1.1m already much earlier
Too bad XIV is 8.0 while XV is 8.7
>because it hit 1.1m already much earlier
And where is the proof? Specifically that it hit 1.1 in its first 3 days.
The fact that is the launch number
and again
7R 931k in 12 months
XV 946k in 12 months
>The fact that is the launch number
That is the number a month after launch.
694,262 units is the first week physical sales.
Where is the source saying it sold 400+k copies digitally its first week?
7R 931k in 12 weeks
XV 946k in 12 weeks
>physical only
>digital doesn't count because I say so
bazzington just can't deal with the facts.
mageknight14 you're on suicide watch...
XVs 1.1m is higher than 7Rs 1m
XVs 946k is higher than 7Rs 931k
XVs 10m is higher than 7Rs 5m
>XVs 1.1m
sales a month after launch
You still won't post XV's digital launch sales lmao
>after
dec 28 is not a month after nov 29
You still wont post FF7Rs digital sales lmao
>dec 28 is not a month after nov 29
It is
>You still wont post FF7Rs digital sales
300k plus.
29 days in nov to dec is not over a month its literally under a month
and xv had 1.1m at launch and higher physical sales than 7R too
cope mageknight14
>and xv had 1.1m at launch
where is the proof that XV had 400k digital sales?
The fact is had 1.1m at launch and higher physical than 7R too
>The fact is had 1.1m at launch
With no proof of those 400k. In fact, SE said 7remake was the highest selling game on PSN in its history.
So XV couldn't have sold more than 300k.
You have lost.
>on PSN
because it was only on PSN moron
XV is on ps4 xb1 and pc and others are on pc too where all pf them hsve higher actual digital numbers
and xv sold more on ps4 overall than 7r anyway
>XV is on ps4 xb1
The only two that matter here, because this is jap launch sales.
No one in japan own an xbox one, so their sales are non-existent.
So ps4 it is.
>xv sold more on ps4 overall than 7r
Reminder, this is a japanese launch sales discussion.
You lied about the sales and couldn't back it up. You lost.
Except that "highest psn" was not for japan it was ww, ergo ww sales are used
your literal deflected to "highest psn" which was not about japan
7R sold half of XV
>ergo ww sales are used
because all regions had their digital sales boosted.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/docs/200806/page01.html
>The HD Game sub-segment saw both sales and profits rise YoY thanks not only to the release of the console titles “FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE” and “TRIALS OF MANA,” but also to a higher percentage of digital sales and to licensing income.
>A: In 1Q, Western countries went into lockdown and businesses in Japan were asked to close temporarily as part of the government’s state of emergency declaration. As a result, demand for game downloads increased.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/ar_2021en.pdf
>We tend to sell a larger percentage of blockbuster titles like “FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE” on physical disks in order to ensure that such titles make it to the market in substantial volumes. However, lockdown orders and state of emergency declarations were issued as governments attempted to curb the spread of COVID-19. For this reason, we had no choice but to limit production of packaged games, and our customers were also unable to go out and about as they would like. As such, our customers increasingly made their purchases online rather than in stores as the digital shift gained additional momentum due to both demand- and supply-side factors. Our profits benefitted substantially from this development.. The pandemic hastened the digital evolution of our customers’ buying behavior, and we expect the resulting change to be irreversible and for this trend to continue once the pandemic is over. We intend to further promote the shift to digital going forward.
Digital sales were never like this beforehand. You refuse to prove that XV sold 400k digitally its first week.
You have lost.
Nothing you posted has anything to do with anything I said you fricking idiot
7R sold less than XV globally
>Nothing you posted has anything to do with anything
>businesses in Japan were asked to close temporarily as part of the government’s state of emergency declaration. As a result, demand for game downloads increased.
>As such, our customers increasingly made their purchases online rather than in stores as the digital shift gained additional momentum due to both demand- and supply-side factors. Our profits benefitted substantially from this development.. The pandemic hastened the digital evolution of our customers’ buying behavior, and we expect the resulting change to be irreversible and for this trend to continue once the pandemic is over.
You cannot prove XV sold 400k digitally in japan launch week.
>7R sold less than XV globally
You're deflecting to another stat that isn't the focus, because you lost.
Oh no Black person, someone who didn't drop out of high school in the 10th grade caught ran your numbers properly!
Holy shit you're actually fricking moronic
combing all the scores of ff14 is 1208, divide that by 15 and the result is 80.533333333 aka 8.0
if you don't include ff14 1.0 then just deduct 49 from 1208 which is 1159
1159 is thus the sum of 14 scores, so divide by 14 and its 82.7857142 etc, round up to 8.3
FF15s scores sum to 1307 with 15 scores, and so 1307 divided by 15 is 87.13333333333 aka 8.7
cope moron
Dude how the frick did you miss the point of the math correction this hard despite it being explained like 3 times
You are weighing review scores with a double digit sample size equally to review squares with quadruple digit sample sizes
That is not how statistics work in the first world
Something tells me he isn't arguing in good faith
>Something tells me he isn't arguing in good faith
the XV autist never is, he will completely ignore reality every time
XVI troons having a complete meltdown after getting eviscerated again
How are YOU this fricking moronic? There is no weight bullshit to factor in, its getting all the scores and averaging them, stop coping
>Ignored my post
Lol
Genuine autism
You'll never be able to damage control cancelling DLC. When the nation that runs on shitty cashgrabs cancels that you know you fricked up
>non canon alternate timeline bonus 3rd year dlc was canned while the final canon dlc released after that happened anyway and that dlc only got greenlit in 2018 due to fan demand and only was canned because tabata decided to leave SE to start his own thing and SE didn't want to do it without him
No actual dev work had even been done on them because they got canned 5 months after being announced
All canon xv dlc released
cope
meanwhile the original ff14 2.0 was cancelled and ff7r ps4 dlc was cancelled and ff7r canon tifa chapter cancelled and ff16 ps4 version cancelled
and yet YOU used novel only content to defend XV.
if it's not canon, then why use it to defend XV?
true ending is in the base game you fricking moron twewysperg
being non canon doesn't mean its still not official you fricktard, official content like in dbz games where goku fuses with freeza or teams up with cell or whatever the frick, it's not canon but it's still OFFICIAL
learn the difference already you stupid fricking xiv Black person holy fricking shit how are you this fricking stupid?
it was being made the same reason the alternate ending in episode ignis is a thing you fricking moron, to show different outcomes if different things that weren't beholden to the canon happened, it literally wasn't part of the actual story and the true ending is the story in the base game which they literally fricking said when they announced it you fricking moron.
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>The theme is an ALTERNATE grand finale, of course we're not trying to overwrite the existing ending, the ending for FFXV is THE ending for FFXV, but like we did with Episode Ignis we want to give players a choice to see a possible different outcome.
Meanwhile ff7r has its canon true backstory in a novel and its true ending hasn't even fricking released yet while requiring you to buy a PS5 and play mobile garbage canon to ff7r to understand the actual unfinished garbage that 7R always will be.
Stay debunked moron.
Very
It will sell worse than FF Type-0 and Dissidia did in Japan launch week
It will be lucky to sell 300k at launch
Its gonna get fricked by Sony being absolute petty morons and locking a game to a shit console that no one bought
It's the number one pre order right now. But obviously numbers are being stymied by it being PS5 exclusive.
https://nichebarrier.com/comg-pre-order
>number one
its the next upcoming biggest game moron no shit, its still doing abysmal
even if it hits 100 points thats terriblely low for ff
>its the next upcoming biggest game
SF6 comes out in 10 days
Yeah read the next sentence moron.
PS5 is outselling ps4 in japan time aligned
if it flops in japan but sells 5 mil in the west in a year it just confirms that square made the right choice. they'll continue to pander to the west going forward. the only way that can turn around is if japan suddenly has 5 million more young gaming people, but they can't with their birth rate.
it wont even sell 4m
arcade is bigger than console in japan
gigaflop
Lots of the previews seem to be complaining about linear level design even in the open areas, proving once again that CBU3 cannot design anything besides MMO corridor "dungeons" and tiny empty areas.
I expect the story will at least be competent, however.
XV irreversibly damaged the brand and destroyed any goodwill it had left but XVI will still destroy it in sales and reviews.
XV saved the brand and continues to outpace the sales of every FF in history
FF14 damaged the brand and seeing FF16 from the FF14 team is why people know its shit so not interested
XV will never be good, even if it was it wouldnt cure your autism
XV won more awards than FF14
Nope
Cope
>NUH-UH
Incredible rhetorical prowess
You have no argument
My argument is that your "statistics" are incredibly deceptive. You've included the 1.0 version of the game which wasn't worked on by the guy you hate so much alongside several collections with 7-13 reviews on them.
If you presented this in a statistics course at a university they'd laugh in your face.
You're just proving you cant read or count
the collections aren't even being counted in that average, theyre just there for visual to show everything
read the fricking chart
and even with 1.0 removed the average of ff14 is 8.3 so still lower than xvs 8.7
You can't read either
You've included reviews with a sample size of 14 and weighed them the same as reviews with sample sizes of ~2000. This is statistical vomit.
>noooo
Cope moron its called an average
if you're going to seethe over number of reviews then will you seethe over ff14 xpacs being botted to frick by xiv cultists falsely giving in 10s from throwaway accounts just to try and inflate the score?
>posting random collection sets with single digit ratings
Disingenuous, just like every argument you make
>based on 7 Ratings
>XIV's peak: 97
>XV's peak: 95
Ignoring the fodder, it seems Yoshi P can only produce masterpieces. The franchise is in good hands.
Do you people just idk enjoy video games?
Do you sit there playing them thinking wowzah I sure hope this sells well in Japan
Ganker will call it a failure no matter what. I'm going to call it a success no matter what. It balances out.
14 15 16 are not final fantasy, they should let the franchise die and make spin offs with generic action shit to rake in money from western players.
>in Japan
Who cares? Developers don’t care about that market anymore that’s why they are designing their games to appeal to westerners. Not even Japanese developers care about the opinions of Japanese gamers
>but the Jap sales
They didn't even bother doing Jap lipsync. They're pretty much cucking the Jap audience in favor of the average HBO slop consuming mutts. It's going to bite them in the ass.
Japs don't play games that aren't Nintendoslop or gacha trash. There's a reason every Jap developer has been pandering to Americans in recent years.
They don’t care about Japanese sales. Thats why they’re shilling hard with the game of thrones aesthetic
Sales threads are cancer. Just popping in to say that FF15 was the worst final fantasy and the only one I couldn't push through to completion because it was so bad, but FF16 is looking to revive the series
I am posting in a barry thread
Yoshit-piss is going to kill the series with this turd
For future use.
You can't use your own formula like that wtf..
What formula? You don't weigh 14 reviews the same as 1880.
XVI kun you literally cant fricking count, holy shit
Learn how averages work
To get the average of the scores you add each score together then you divide by the amount of scores you added
15 userscores for ff14 were counted which had a sum of 1208, I'll be generous and remove ff4 1.0s 49 from that so it's 1159
1159 divided by 14 is 82.78
Therefore the average of ff14 overall ffom ARR to EW is 82.78
15 userscores for ff15 were counted which had a sum of 1307, and that is not even adding in the userscore for the VR monster of the deep or the 2D pixel brawler a kings tale both of which had 8.7 userscores, so it still wouldve been 8.7 even with them added
1307 divided by 15 is 87.13
Even with the other two 8.7s added thats 1481 divided by 17 which is still 87
Therefore the average of ff15 overall is 87.13
Why did you make the same reply twice? See
Yes there is. It curbs the reviewbombing and astroturfing you seem to pretend to care so much about by not giving equal weight to games with very few reviews.
>It [headcanon]
You're utterly fricking coping because basic averages BTFO you
there is no weight to factor in
You aren't really confuting anything. You are just pointing and calling it cope because
>muh formula is better than your formula since it gives me the result I want
You arent even arguing anything, you're just coping because the averages BTFO you
There is no weight to factor in, its purely just the results of their scores to get an actual score
XVI trannies literally cant even do basic math
>you arent even arguing anything because my formula is best
>no weight to factor I don't want to listen to you explaining basic analysis to me
Yeah. American education I guess
Its literally basic averages
cope
your lost
damn ff14 is doing poorly
>your lost
Math AND English?
>Fails at math
>Fails at reading
>Can't even properly setup an argument
Oh no, he's gone full moron.
>XVI-kun fails at basic math and basic reading
>XVI-kun cant even do basic averages
Dumbass it doesn't matter how many reviews were added per score, its still going to be the same amount of averages counted because its literally the average of the sum of the averages
>basic averages
>basic
Yes, case in point. There's nothing basic when it comes to analysis of large sets of data.
Answer this:
If I were to create 10 Metacritic accounts today (not that difficult or time consuming to do) and then...
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn's PS5 edition?
The user score would drop from 7.4 to 3.7, and the review count would rise from 14 to 24
Leave nothing but 0 reviews on Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker's PC edition?
The user score would be unchanged, and the review count would rise from 1270 to 1280
Do you think weighing these two titles equally is fair? If so, why?
Small correction, the user score would drop from 7.4 to 4.3, I added a few too many reviews
He's not going to answer it, is he
Read a book or three
https://www.displayr.com/the-correct-treatment-of-sampling-weights-in-statistical-tests/
https://education.ufl.edu/educational-research/files/2014/10/Survey-Data-Analysis.pdf
delet this
NOW
>If you have been carefully reading through the above analyses, you will have realized that in each of the examples, the correct answer was obtained by performing the test using the unweighted data.
moron
Bad faith actor, your existence is nothing but wasting yours and others time.
>XVI-kun gets BTFO by his own source
oh no no
>Being this much of a mathlet
kek
Supposedly even a lot of Japanese are asking for it to get a PC port so I don't know how hard it being a PS5 exclusive will hit it, now that supplies aren't nearly as bad as they were before.
>Supposedly
lol
There were some posts around here a while ago from Japanese social media showing lots of Japanese people saying they wanted a PC version because they couldn't get a PS5. Could have changed with supply, however.
1 copy sold would still be too much.
Going to sell 1 million copies lifetime at least.
I stopped caring when arab bros confirmed there's homosexual homosexualry in this game.
It will sell like trash updating a new historical low for FF.
guaranteed barry replies.jpg
FFXVI is already gold off presales, it's going to be responsible for selling 1 million PS5 consoles on its own
Nomura won
Tabata lost
Simple as.
Best seller, Japan hasn't been this excited in a long time
>ps5 only chart
what strong competition!
PS5 has sold 3 million in Japan, FF console bundles will be worth another 1 million
This thread actually reminded me I forgot to preorder, thanks
>Actually XV saved the franchise
Why'd you post the FF12 shill known as 1truth?
Why'd you post lying clickbait from a right wing chud tuber who lied because that was just 4 empty steelbooks that get given away for free not actual copies of the game and the steelbooks always get thrown out too
I see Barry is still salty that people are more interested in this game over the literal garbage he shilled
Jej he's having another big one today. Did you get your porn transferred out of your shitposting folder yet Barry?
Remember when you posted that pic because you where so shaken? Was it because flopspoken was getting drug?
It deserved it. 300k+ polys on that hideous character model and like 16 on the environment lmfao
16 is going to outsell 15 and flopspoken combined.
XVI-kun why are you having a melty? 300k poly is extremely standard in 9th gen, hell aloy on hzd on ps4 has 400k poly on her model
also why are you too pussy to post actual in game screenshots? let alone podting outdated builds
Kek glossed right over the 16 polygon buildings. I win barry.
More polygons than ff16?
>still not posting actual in game screens
No wonder ff16 is bombing
>Posting cutscenes model instead of in game model
It's clear that Luminous was unqualified. Luckily they were busy with floprotten while Yoshi-P saves square again.
is there a name for this kind of thing
Schizophrenia
Looks better than FF16 which cant even run at 60fps...
It will break the 100k curse... By selling 120k.
I actually want it to sell at least 500k
>killing a random bigger enemy takes 10 minutes
Why do you have to stagger these type of enemies 3 times, what were they thinking?
if the combat is truly like dmc stagger rate will be completely dependant on the skill of the player
These barry threads never cease to amaze. It's unfortunate the amount of morons falling for it too. XV (versus XIII) was hyped and marketed for over a decade. That's where the sales came from. But now that the 2 decade long shitstorm of 13 garbage is done and over with after wrecking the series name, influencing the company to be more western, failing, then selling off everything from Eidos that they worked with since the squaresoft days, we can go back to simple 2-3 year announce and releases like normal game developers used to do.