How come the entire gaming community thinks Superman wasnt justified for killing Joker a man whos murdered thousands for his own sadistic amusement...

How come the entire gaming community thinks Superman wasn’t justified for killing Joker a man whos murdered thousands for his own sadistic amusement?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because superman went postal afterwards, otherwise theres no injustice plot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair it was more like a series of events that made him go postal. Joker was just the tipping point.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer the comic explanation where Injustice Superman's world was just a place where nothing went right from the start, down to Superman losing his blanket as a kid.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't they retcon Injustice to be apart of their Dark Multiverse during all the Bakek events with Perpetua?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dark Multiverse was a Metal thing right? I didn't follow it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Didn't they retcon Injustice to be apart of their Dark Multiverse
            No, Injustice is more or less a canonization of the Justice Lords from the Justice League animated series. Justice Lords themselves is a watered down version of the crime Syndicate. So far the Injustice universe still exists, and has a future. The point of the dark multiverse are crisis outcomes where there is no future and are doomed to be erased from existence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because he was already in police custody and awaiting trial. Superman literally crashed through an interrogation room to kill him.

        >a series of events that made him go postal. Joker was just the tipping point.
        Joker was the starting point. The whole regime shit happened after he executed Joker.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Because he was already in police custody and awaiting trial
          Joker had been imprisoned dozens, if not hundreds of times. It doesn't work. He gets out and kills again. Batman is a fricking moron. The no-kill rule is fine when applied to his lower tier rogues gallery like Killer Croc, or Clayface... or with a less dark setting, like TAS, where Joker is just a moderately crazy gangster. When you apply it to an omnicidal clown with a ultra genius intellect you just get repeated disasters. That's the problem with modern portrayals of Batman with this grimdark bullshit where Joker casually wipes out a fricking city.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's a failing of the American Justice system more than it is a failing of Batman.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It does make you wonder how a cop never shot him in custody or an orderly never slipped him rat poison.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many serial killers met such fate?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not his job to execute Joker. If you want someone to blame, blame how the justice system let him loose. That's always been the problem.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a failing of the American Justice system more than it is a failing of Batman.

              So your argument is that an illegal vigilante should trust the justice system to handle The Joker?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The guy who literally hands over the bad guys he beats up to the cops and even gave the Police Commisioner a big fricking nightlight with a bat on it is the one who trusts the justice system. I don't have to say shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he does let the police/arkham deal with him after beating his shit in so yes

                Yes, and as my original post stated: Batman is a moron, and this entire premise doesn't work in modern portrayals of Batman.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >incompetent prison systems doesn't work in modern portrayals of Batman
                Pretty sure incompetent prison systems don't work no matter what age. That's why they're incompetent.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he does let the police/arkham deal with him after beating his shit in so yes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're dumb, Super did what Batdon't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Killing the Joker is justified, but Superman being the one to do it gives a quantifiable moral corruption bordering on a mind virus to one of the worst possible people. At the very least it didn't jokerize Superman, but he goes full extremist for it.

      Amazoness hands wrote this post.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this
        Honestly, I'd see Wonder Woman just slitting Joker's throat more than any other JLA member

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qApzb3W.jpeg

      How come the entire gaming community thinks Superman wasn’t justified for killing Joker a man whos murdered thousands for his own sadistic amusement?

      What's the most based version of Superman? Based as in,
      >Actually cool
      >No homosexual shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Donner Superman is the only one worth a damn

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, great music, and definitely the best Superman movie though personally I think it fails the
          >Superman is actually cool
          >No homosexual shit
          The goody two shoes schtick kinda makes it hard to root for the guy, even though Reeve clearly is portraying it as an over the top act to keep his persona a paragon of virtue. It always seems like there's a much cooler character in there somewhere, but he's being held back for some reason.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe Snyderman is more your speed, edgelord-kun

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I actually did like him in Snyder's Justice League. Black Suit with Silver Cape should seriously become his default look, it's so much better. I think Snyder had a lot of good ideas for Supes, but his writers let him down in Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Black Suit with Silver Cape should seriously become his default look, it's so much better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know I'm right.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except that you clearly aren't and your shit tastes are barely above the people that made Superman a biker with a buzz cut that uses the rags of his cape as knuckle dusters

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This Superman was actually based though, edgy aesthetic aside

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This Superman was actually based though
                I rest my case

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fixed.

                This Superman was actually based though, edgy aesthetic aside

                Edge is not actually a criticism, and people who use it as such are total homosexuals that are afraid of anything that's actually cool and taking itself seriously.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KINO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Edge is not actually a criticism
                Yeah it is, and it's a very clear one
                Specially in regards to a character defined by idealism and upstanding moral behavior like Superman is

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's not. At most it's an adjective to describe certain aesthetics, but nothing it describes is inherently negative, and to say otherwise is disingenuous and unfair towards the author's intentions. Something being "edgy" isn't inherently good, nor inherently bad. But it's so overused that people who use it are clearly insecure lying homosexuals who hate things being darker and more serious because they're autistic little butches who want everything to be sunshine and bing bing wahoo.
                homosexuals.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, it's not
                Yeah it is
                >describe certain aesthetics
                Nope, can also be applied to themes, story, writing...
                > nothing it describes is inherently negative
                It carries a negative connotation, even of edgy things aren't necessarily bad because. Much like "camp", there's an obvious meaning to the word that isn't positive, but a work can be full of it and still be good
                >because they're autistic little butches who want everything to be sunshine and bing bing wahoo
                Just because you're an edgy homosexual that desperately wants to appear mature by shoving things that are usually associated with more adult audiences, doesn't mean the word needs to suffer your existence

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah it is
                No it's not, and I demonstrably proved such.
                >Nope, can also be applied to themes, story, writing...
                Aesthetic also covers themes story and writing, autismo.
                >It carries a negative connotation
                That's because the only people that use it to describe things are homosexual little b***h babies that cry when their favorite cartoons scare them. The term itself goes virtually unused by anyone being sincere or genuine when discussing material, but the term itself isn't inherently good or bad.
                >Much like "camp", there's an obvious meaning to the word that isn't positive, but a work can be full of it and still be good
                Ah, no wonder. I've been arguing with a legitimate moron. This is completely untrue. There's no usch thing as a good "campy" movie. Either a movie is "campy" because it failed to execute the tone, message, or aesthetic it was aiming for, or it's good and isn't campy. Completely different, and not a comparable example to edge. But thanks for sharing your how stupid you are you moronic homosexual b***h.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it's not, and I demonstrably proved such.
                Except it is and you have not
                >Aesthetic also covers themes story and writing
                Look up what aesthetic actually is
                >That's because the only people that use it to describe things are homosexual little b***h babies that cry when their favorite cartoons scare them
                What a homosexually worded opinion spouted by someone that can't even do a push-up
                >This is completely untrue.
                It isn't though, I'm sorry you're too mentally challenged to understand this
                I'd like to say "get better" but since you're parents are siblings we both know that's not possible

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate Zack Snyder so much. What a talentless fricking hack.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He looks like he hates the DS.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's okay anon. I got it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That takes me back.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man of steel is fine, the whole man of murder criticism is a clear misunderstanding of what the fights are trying to show.
                BvS is ass though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Superman is cool by definition. Until you try to turn him into something he's not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't normal superman some kind of goody two shoes homosexual? Miss me with that shit, that's anti-cool.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All Star, What's So Funny, Byrne's (most of it) and Peace on Earth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fleischer/Golden Age Superman

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That one where Superman fights proto-Godzilla

          Funny how things come full circle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Old godzilla was hopping around, tokyo city like a big playground

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Smallville thats all i will say.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Smallville has the best Lex

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        flescher

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because usually it sends superhomosexual over the edge and it gets nasty.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Superman killing Joker was 100% justified because Gotham's justice system was corrupt and Batman was too mentally deficient to think off a permanent, non-lethal way to contain him. You could just dump him into the Phantom Zone or construct a prison with robots designed to hold the Joker and kill him if he thinks of escaping. The issue was afterwards he started asserting his whole new world order and being manipulated by a psychopathic warhawk Amazon. Then it just got worse. I'm pretty sure killing Shazam is the point of no return, because Billy is canonically a child.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The biggest suspension of disbelief in the entire Batman mythos is that the government or Gotham PD or whoever didn't just have a dude come off Joker once Batman dumped him at Arkham one of the seven hundred times he's recaptured him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If a cop tries to kill the joker, batman comes in saves jokers life and cripples the cop from the neckdown. Then joker rapemurders that poor cops family.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joker didn't do anything that Man of Murder wouldn't have.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    again

    Because capeshit is fricking stupid for fricking stupid people
    The Jokah wacky le killed by le supercuck the shock of le slop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ay, don't be so negative. Ok? Not good for you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not the justification, so much as it is out of character for Superman to commit murder. While to Batman, it could be justifiable to some extent (self-defense), unless Kryptonite is involved, the same can't be said for Superman.

      This man hates fun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Capesloppers proven to be a lower form of life once again.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based Gokubro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dragon balls is gay, and my OC kills goku with his farts alone

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people generally agree that Superman was in the right, it's just that for whatever reason, killing the Joker makes Superman go le crazy or whatever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It could be worse, we could have had a Supes Who Keks if Superman got jokerized instead of corrupted.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a slow descent to madness with Wonder prostitute's manipulation and Batman being a bad friend corrupting his soul

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for whatever reason
      to be fair, it's all in a side comic that lasted years after the game came out.
      between Batman being REALLY autistic about Supes murdering the Joker and just being incapable of even remotely understanding why a man might murder another man if he Fear Gassed him into thinking his wife was one of your greatest foes and dangers to the world and when you end up killing her, her snuke goes off and blows up your city. Now while you're greiving over your massive loss, your autistic friend won't stop harping over killing his boyfriend, who was responsible for millions of deaths even before Metropolis being nuked. While this is happening, Wonder Woman is saber rattling and warhawking because Superman murdered someone and that made her wet as frick. Wonder Woman is the tipping point for Supes and Batman caused the man to falter in the first place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >woman gets between two guys
        I'm shocked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          unironic as well, they almost make up and then Wonder Woman ruined everything by just lying to Supes and that pisses him off or something. If anything, Wonder Woman is the sole reason Superman became King of Earth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like that comic edit where all of Wonder Woman's lines are replaced with shit like "snap his neck Clark", "kill them all".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's just that for whatever reason
      It's propaganda. Like most comics. Superman goes insane after killing joker because superman is a vigilante in this case, taking justice into his own hands, and that's a big bad for the authorities who want you to trust in them. So superman becomes hitler because he took justice into his own hands instead of relying on the authorities to punish him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's propaganda but it's based propaganda. Injustice Superman was only possible because he had the harpie Wonder Woman nagging his moral compass to death. It's no exaggeration to say that everything after Superman killing the Joker was Wonder Woman's fault.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for whatever reason
      It blurred the line. Clark had to start asking questions. If he can execute evil people, what else can he do?
      Somewhat justifiably, he becomes a dictator.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Dude what if Superman HAD to commit murder and then became evil?

    God fricking damn are Netherrealm hacks

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your bait is getting weak old man

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they are wusses who cannot see or fathom the bigger picture

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Killing Joker was fine but he should have kept living his life normally afterwards.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda hard when your city got nuked and you were manipulated to kill your wife and unborn child.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you were manipulated to kill your wife and unborn child.
        This. morons either don't know or just ignore the fact that Superman was mindfricked by Scarecrow toxin into killing Lois (who was pregnant with their child). It wasn't simply killing Joker that made Superman go nuts, it was that he lost everything, and by his own hand

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Injustice comics are a guilty pleasure of mine. Particularly when Plastic Man ruining their plans.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only Batman media where the idea that Batman doesn't kill and Gotham doesn't send Joker to the chair isn't moronic is TAS, the rest are too stupid in excusing either of these specially when the Joker is edgier and deadlier

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Adam West Batman makes it work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        By making joker a relatively harmless clown and not a super-terrorist who does 9/11 every week

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's more that's what Joker was, golden age Joker was a mobster with a theme, silver age was a silly clown who robbed banks. Bronze age came along and Joker kept escalating as a villain. I would say that stuff like Death in the Family and Killing Joke are about as far as you should take him, really as the other anon said, Batman the Animated series pulls off the joker very well, he's a bit of a mix of the mobster, clown, and crazy guy and doesn't go too far in these directions. And the time Joker really went too far was the time he didn't make it because logically when you take the escalation too far it was gonna happen one way or another.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Does Jason not exist here?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, Jason Todd was kind of skipped over in favor of Dick Grayson and Tim Drake, and thus avoided the entire "my first robin horrifically died" in favor of having Tim get mindraped and tortured into being a Joker replacement. Red Hood did later adapt Todd, but it wasn't part of the Bruce Timm canon stuff.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh wait, i'm a dumbass, it's the second robin that dies. god its been too long. that makes Tim Drake the TAS equivalent to Jason Todd.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hated the DNA shit in this, I don't get why they couldn't just let him be Joker 2 instead. Same thing with Batman cucking a man by replacing his semen in his balls with his own.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Batman cucking a man by replacing his semen in his balls with his own

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Amanda Waller was butthurt that Batman retired so she took his DNA and implanted it in Terry's dad to rewrite his balls so that Terry would end up becoming Bruce's biological son.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hated the DNA shit in this, I don't get why they couldn't just let him be Joker 2 instead. Same thing with Batman cucking a man by replacing his semen in his balls with his own.

                Batman/Bruce didn't do that himself. Waller did that because she felt the world needed a Batman. Bruce had no knowledge of that, but since he is smart, he probably figured out at some point Terry was his son.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He may have been an unknowing bull, but he still impregnated another man's wife.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Amanda Waller was butthurt that Batman retired so she took his DNA and implanted it in Terry's dad to rewrite his balls so that Terry would end up becoming Bruce's biological son.

                [...]
                Batman/Bruce didn't do that himself. Waller did that because she felt the world needed a Batman. Bruce had no knowledge of that, but since he is smart, he probably figured out at some point Terry was his son.

                Also, it gets better. Waller was gonna have the girl from Mask of the Phantasm kill Terry's parents so he'd be edgy like Bruce. She refused. However Terry's dad still dies anyway and Terry still ends up becoming Batman.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have they ever made a story that made the joker a supernatural element? Like a comic where the joker dies and it's revealed there's an evil spirit that just possesses a new psychopath paints his face and keeps killing people? to the point where containing him in prison for as long as you can is actually the best damage control you can do since killing him just means a new free joker appears the next day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Have they ever made a story that made the joker a supernatural element?
              Kinda. Joker was passing himself off as an ancient boogeyman in the history of Gotham called the Laughing man, and he even seemed immortal. But by the end of the arc Batman figures out that Joker actually was fricking around with a liquid called Dionesium, which was a mutated weaker version of the Lazarus Pits.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's actually kind of more fun that they teased that idea and then had it just be bullshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but I forgive it only because "I trick you into thinking I'm supernatural" is the closest that modern Joker has come to actually pulling a joke.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that the one where he did a Nic Cage and cut his face//off?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, this is long after he did that, but still New 52.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah. That era was the last that I still actively read, but I remembered that they alluded to him being immortal maybe kinda sorta I guess we'll never know, much like every Snyder conclusion being a non ending.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think the closest to this is the 'Gotham is cursed' thing. Where the underlying reason why there are all these crazy villains like Joker in Gotham is just because Gotham is supernaturally fricked up.

              Whenever the storyline goes to these kind of places though the writers can never fricking help themselves. And then we end up with moronic shit like The Batman Who Laughs taking Dr. Manhattan's power to kill the creator god of the universe and that kind of unbelievably stupid story.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The Batman Who Laughs
                Wally called him "The Batman That Tries Too Hard" in one comic and it was a such an accurate dig
                What a homosexual character

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me about it. Batkek was a novel idea at first but then he kept on coming back again, and again, and again even making himself Doctor Manhattan

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't Manhattan around the level and powerset of Firestorm but with omnipresence that he can't do anything with? Why did he make him an all powerful dude?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Simply for sales generation. Making some new gay OC villain responsible wouldn't sell, making it the guy in Watchmen whos a schizo/cynical prick makes people interested.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair though, Doomsday Clock wasn't terrible. It was just that they kept fricking milking it. Over and over and over. If it was just one story about how Manhattan was inspired to not be a shithead by Superman then that would've been cool. But short-term sales trumps having decent stories in the end I guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Doomsday Clock wasn't terrible
                Ehh
                Kinda was. Just conceptually it's so creatively bankrupt
                >Look kids! It's Watchmen!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do modern comics have any more moments like that? Where a general hero just looks at an antagonist and goes:
                >God damn what a homosexual you are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Paste Pot Pete, and mostly everyone Spider-Man fights.
                Also some Invincible bits.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              isn't that one piece?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gotham City Sirens references this. Jokers original sidekick Gaggy talks about their stunts being relatively tame until Joker just snapped one day. Absolutely NOT the most interesting explanation but it is neat to see the writers understanding that there is/was a threshold the separated "lmao let's win a surf competition" joker with "I'm going to torture a family for 4 years and slice off baby faces because I'm curaaaazy" joker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, I think The Dark Knight Returns was great with that, specifically because it doesn't jump through all sorts of dumb lore hoops as to why the Joker doesn't get the chair (bleeding heart politicians foolishly being merciful because he's mentally ill and just needs therapy). And Batman had a no kill policy so the feds wouldn't bust his ass wide open, because all they needed was a murder charge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It works a lot better when Joker only ends up in police custody once, and never even sees trial. The trouble is trying to keep a threatening joker alive for any extended period of time in police custody.

        >Be Batman
        >Cripples goons because they're selling guns which could kill people
        >Still Batman
        >Do nothing to permanently stop the Jonkler from mass murdering people every Friday
        He's an accomplice to every single criminal in Gotham.

        Yeah the trouble is when he's punch guy instead of the greatest detective he seems really silly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          god i've always loved this gif
          memes around this time of the internet were always so fun and lighthearted.
          now its just wojaks and what remains of frogs
          aaaa i want to go back bros

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In comic books it wouldn't make much difference, since it is canon that Gotham city is literally cursed to be a chaotic shithole for all eternity. The best Batman can do is to try to fight the symptoms, the city genuinely can't ever be fixed.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nukes a whole ass city
    >gets sent to jail for the billionth time
    Superman didn't do anything wrong. Joker was clearly never going to change, he was going to continue torturing, raping, and murdering innocents every chance he got and he was never going to be contained in Gotham's corrupt and moronic prison system.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >KOOM

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because it sells shit.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After Batkek there's pretty much no reason to give a frick about Batman's lore all that deeply. Bad writers with bloated ego have fricked up the story too much for it to matter.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >justly executed mass murderer
    >now execute anyone he doesn't like
    slippery slop troony writers should off themselves for justice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They really should, you can't tell me with a straight face that killing someone like the joker will somehow make me kill people like the riddler next.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't give a shit about NRS anymore, but they are dogshit with continuity, there's 4 or so interpretations of the Injustice storyline because of all the fricking adaptations.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Superman's mistake was taking the law into his own hands.
    What Superman should've done is asked Bruce to help fund his case to get the death penalty put in place for nuking a city, then insisted on being the execution method.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does dent get to be on Superman’s squad in injustice? That’s pretty based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, he's one of the villains that just spends their time in jail for most of the events.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What Superman should've done is asked Bruce to help fund his case to get the death penalty put in place for nuking a city, then insisted on being the execution method.
      never gonna happen, Bruce loves Joker more than anything else and Joker knows it.
      Joker murdered one of his sons, raped and crippled Barbara and yet Bruce would rather fight Jason to the death rather than let him put a bullet in Jokers head.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure that regardless of state nuking a city would constitute a case of grand treason, and the state's policy on capital punishment would never even come up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So if everyone knows batman wont kill what's stopping literally any gotham cop from killing joker?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shitty authors.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most of them are corrupt, the new, the old, minus Gordon and Bullock and some others. They don't really care that much, most of them fraternize with people who kill as well like mobsters or Two Face or somebody else.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay but why wouldn't any of the corrupt ones kill joker either? He does nothing good for them. They're at risk of him randomly killing them with some moronic clown necktie that gives you cancer.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Actual smarter people with training have tried to track Joker and died. Cops trying to look for Joker en masse would mean their deaths and the deaths of their families. It would take hundreds or thousands of people not just cops all fed up with Joker and the crime in Gotham to rally together but the city is too demoralized and far gone. If actual government entities can't find and destroy the Joker then some pigs surely cant.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The man rose from some two-bit gangster or thug rapidly to an interconnected supervillain criminal who is quite literally where he is because he's both insane and intelligent. His network of connections is absurd, he has other supervillains at his beck and call who know they can pay consequences if they don't help him out when he demands it, he has plants in virtually any institution he may be involved in or more people like Harley ready to bail him out the moment something happens. How extensive Joker's reputation and criminal control is varies by when and where on the timeline and canon alike, but by the point he's a mass murdering psychopath he's usually untouchable short of hell and high water of someone deciding it's too far gone, or being bamboozled by his own efforts (ie: Batman Beyond).

                [...]
                He had a kill count. If someone wasn't treated on-screen or given a handwave that they got treated, especially prior to TAS' reworking into "The New Batman Adventures", they were effectively dead, and then Justice League took most of the reins off entirely.

                Joker gets locked up in prison all the time. The city is just as full of heroes as it is villains. I really don't understand like in that first comic page posted why no one just kills him when he's locked up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most people don't like to commit murder, and the ones who do try get outwitted by Joker and unintentionally help him escape. The clown can smell bloodlust like a shark smells blood.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it literally takes one cop busting a cap on Jokar's head while he's handcuffed, which happens every other day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The man rose from some two-bit gangster or thug rapidly to an interconnected supervillain criminal who is quite literally where he is because he's both insane and intelligent. His network of connections is absurd, he has other supervillains at his beck and call who know they can pay consequences if they don't help him out when he demands it, he has plants in virtually any institution he may be involved in or more people like Harley ready to bail him out the moment something happens. How extensive Joker's reputation and criminal control is varies by when and where on the timeline and canon alike, but by the point he's a mass murdering psychopath he's usually untouchable short of hell and high water of someone deciding it's too far gone, or being bamboozled by his own efforts (ie: Batman Beyond).

              Most people grew up with Batman TAS where Joker is a mobster who surprisingly has zero kill count.

              He had a kill count. If someone wasn't treated on-screen or given a handwave that they got treated, especially prior to TAS' reworking into "The New Batman Adventures", they were effectively dead, and then Justice League took most of the reins off entirely.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or the city, or his henchmen
          I don't even get why people are so insistent on Batman killing the Joker anyway, what would that even accomplish?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Plot armor, Joker is a very popular villain and Batman comics must go on indefinitely. Even if Joker is killed in one storyline he is back in next reboot anyways.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This, DC even retconned the whole Joker's origin into 3 Jokers lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              3 Jokers gets confusing because on hand it could be that Criminal Joker was Golden Age, Clown was Silver Age and all the way up to Jason's death, and Comedian was Killing Joke Onward. On the other hand, it could be that Killing Joke Joker was the real Joker, and he just made the other two for shits and giggles.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Joker sells books.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I once boiled a baby in front of the father and made him drink the soup
        Where's the joke? I fricking hate how Joker has just become and edgelord that does whatever edgy stuff the author can think of without rhyme or reason. Also, he has also to have the final "witty" word, even when it's stupid shit like here
        >My gay lover would get really upset and beat you up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Comedy requires wit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bingo
          The Joker needs to be funny
          Literally every single good version of the Joker was funny or at least amusing
          Even Heath Ledger's anarchic terrorist had a a dry, black humor to him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shitty Dark Knight 2face
      Lame.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't the massive success of Marvel movies make the comic books more successful? Why don't normalgays like it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because comics are expensive, most of the time they’re over complicated and rely on decades of history to be understood, and also they’re bad more often than they’re good

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        manga is trans, accept this conservetard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you really want to start this argument given the state of modern comics?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            both are trans, chud

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The average DB fan isn't in your inage. Those homosexuals will tell you to skip of Dragon Ball and start with Raditz. Same with OPgays that tell you to start with Marineford or skip Skypiea. And jojogays who want you to start with their fav part are the worst. A friend even told me to read Berserk chronologically, spoiling shit around in the process.

        tldr behead shonengays

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A friend even told me to read Berserk chronologically
          Disgusting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The people making the new Superman series are huge marks for Dragonball and I'm grateful for them turning Clark and Lois into Gohan and Videl because they're great.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Gohan and Videl getting the spotlight in a story
            Sign me up.

            Where do you think the river got its name from anon? Have you really never heard of the Greek amazons?

            I forgot, I'm moronic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In theory this sounds amazing, but I refuse to watch any cartoon adaptations that swap races in order to satisfy diversity checkmarks. They made Jimmy black (again) and Lois Korean (wtf?)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They made Jimmy black (again) and Lois Korean (wtf?)
              And they both venerate they White Super (Superman)Savior like it has to be

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reading all of Dragon Ball is worth it. Especially when you see half of your favorite characters getting fricked up by Nappa and Vegeta after they starred in a light hearted gag manga.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I read the manga first because anime pretty much does not air here and I got fricked up harder where Krillin got killed by Tambourine out of fricking nowhere.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd argue what you said only really applies to Yamcha and maybe Chaozu cuz of his humorous gimmick lmao Ten Shin Han was a pretty serious threat and kind of one of Goku's first serious rivals. But yeah I'd go a step further and tell people to READ Doctor Slump so they can see just how good Toriyama was, even when he needed need to try as hard he still had those big awesomely drawn panels with details and those covers, same reason he gave it his 100% with DB even when he didn't feel like continuing the series.

            [...]
            Yes, reading the Dragon Ball manga is how I got in the series, skipping to Raditz sounds insane to me, but then again I cannot stand the anime's pacing, Z or not.
            Also, even though I appreciate all of Dragon Ball, it does get much more exciting after the time skip, but I'd say that begins with Goku vs Jr rather than Raditz.

            The anime has aged so much worse than the manga imo, and this goes double for Dr Slump. That clean artwork with those big panels and shit, it looks 20 years ahead of those grainy, filler-infested slideshows people worship.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reading all of Dragon Ball is worth it. Especially when you see half of your favorite characters getting fricked up by Nappa and Vegeta after they starred in a light hearted gag manga.

          Yes, reading the Dragon Ball manga is how I got in the series, skipping to Raditz sounds insane to me, but then again I cannot stand the anime's pacing, Z or not.
          Also, even though I appreciate all of Dragon Ball, it does get much more exciting after the time skip, but I'd say that begins with Goku vs Jr rather than Raditz.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder how original DB fans feel about GT and Super and all the other spinoff shit and movies. DB first appeared in the 80s, so naturally people born as early as the 1950s must have read it maybe, possibly the 1940s. How fricking weird it must be to see its current fandom and progession now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I wonder how original DB fans feel about GT and Super and all the other spinoff shit and movies
            Are you talking nip specific fans or just anyone who consumed DB first?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're overestimating them, I know several oldgays that ate Super up and never had a problem with it. Same with Star Wars, for both of the horrible cash grab trilogies it had.

            Can someone explain when the flash turned into a pro gun nut chud? He argues like my grandfather.

            Flash is a humble blue collar worker superhero I can see him having a problem with this, I'm a tenderfoot yuropoor kind of disturbed by burger's obsession with guns and I still think what he's saying is completely sane and sound, you can't force all those people to change so fast.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Super is ok.
            GT was unwatchable even as a kid seeing it for the first time, and it was so shit it got cancelled before it even had half the episodes that DB or Z had. It was so shit it basically put the entire franchise on hold for over a decade.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >super is ok
              ahahahahahaah pablo pls it had literally the worst animation in history of anime. GT dabs on it so hard it's not even funny. God you zoomers and your adopted opinions. Makes me cringe every time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If GT dabs on it provide a single piece of animation better than some of the mid tier super animations.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but GT is from the 90s so by default it doesn't have souless digital colors and wins in the looks department.

                t.haven't watched either GT nor Super

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's an animated piece of media anon, digital coloring looks worse but it isn't the be all end all of animation for obvious reasons.
                That's like saying a game should be defined by story more than gameplay.
                I mean, compare this

                I got you bro

                To this and you'll see what I mean.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean, compare this

                I got you bro #
                >To this and you'll see what I mean
                Yours look worse
                The colors and pencils make it look flatter and and more artificial, even if the animation is better

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yours look worse
                It really doesn't because it actually has decent animation where the movement of the characters are clear to the viewer and they aren't reused to an absurd degree.
                Also if you want to be like that then compare GT to other shows that were out at the time. GGG was running at the same time as GT and put it to absolute shame in animation and art quality.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is cheating because GGG, even as a toy commercial of sorts had a lot of passion and gusto put into it unlike every single DB adaptation except the movies and it was Sunrise not Toei, the worst major anime studio that's survived by being cheap as shit and licensing popular shit to live off merchandise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can just admit that you have nostalgia for GT, you know. No one is going to kill you for having an opinion.
                Regardless, it was still an anime that was competing at the same time not to mention GT was more of a toy commercial than GGG as it is given it was literally created purely to continue merch lines.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can just admit that you have nostalgia for GT, you know.
                GT is mainly liked by hispanics and non-whites, they quite literally do not have the ability to sort their own thoughts out or understand their own feelings, let alone something like nostalgia.
                You're arguing with a very very brown man, complete with a stupidly large hat and full blown mexican trumpet music blaring through his $5 dollar speakers.
                He thinks GT is the absolute peak of Dragonball (but will never say it outloud, for he knows he will be laughed at again). He's in every comment section, discussion or thread screaming "SS4 is the best looking Super Saiyan design" over and over (he unironically likes magic clothes, pink fur and eyeliner, he is a troony).

                Do yourself a solid and don't reply to these subhuman animals. Seriously and said with genuine concern for saving you from rolling in the mud with these foul smelling apes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me? I haven't watched either, I'm the guy who posted Skeletor before, I don't have nostalgia for either of these nor desire to ever watch them lmao. Just defending Gaogaigar cuz it's cooler than even the DB manga and it doesn't deserve being dragged down to this gay discussion

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever, the point is that animation isn't just art direction, that makes stills look nice sure but it doesn't mean it looks good in motion which is ultimately GT's undoing
                the art was also horribly inconsistent which is why you'll only see a select few stills

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I should also add that GT was when Yamamuro entered his body grease phase.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t.haven't watched either GT nor Super
                You're not missing much. If I were to suggest to watch Super, I'd have to explain to watch two movies and then enter into the Super anime at the start of the Future Trunks arc.
                It's a bit of a mess.
                (Still better than GT).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol ok.

                >GTgays watch this and be like THIS IS SO FRICKING GOOD OH MY GOD.

                Also, I said "Super is ok" and you sperged out, lol.
                GTgays are actually so weak it's unreal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I got you bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thinking Super is ok doesn't me people like the earlier episodes or hate your precious GT (unironicly another byproduct of Toei)

                and it could have much worse, like the Son Goku and Friends OVA where nobody is on model and we have to hear about Vegeta's skinny brother again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Dude waste your time reading this shitty gag manga before you get to all the cool badass stuff that you'll actually love

          Frick off

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get fricking bent, powerlevelgay. Red Ribbon Army is better than anything post saiyans by every metric.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If by better you mean more boring, sure

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Half of the Red Ribbon arc was pure boredom. Frick THAT tower and frick the okama general. The arc starts to get good with Tao Pai Pai.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Blue's arc is the best fricking part, I don't care if you think it's more boringer because you can't clap at Vegeta jobbing and hairdos become blonde to save ink. You get to see the cast participate and the setting is adventurous for the last time in the series. Muten Roshi and even Launch fight, it has the underwater robot, and the tower has 8, and some of the best action in the series, I like that little village arc a lot. Tao Pai Pai is better than every villain that later copied his formula later though, yes. His gimmick with the pillar is one of the most memorable things in the whole manga. Everything during this time is the PEAK of Toriyama, a perfect compromise between his penchant for drawing weird shit, action and comedy, drawn and executed with so much more gusto than the powerlevel overly long fight slop the comic became later.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The average DB fan isn't in your inage. Those homosexuals will tell you to skip of Dragon Ball and start with Raditz
          yeah no, the 'skip DB' ""people"" are Hispanic anime secondaries who probably can't even read, anyone recommending the dragon ball manga would tell you to start at the beginning

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Same with OPgays that tell you to start with Marineford
          What? Thats fricking awful advice.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And jojogays who want you to start with their fav part are the worst.
          I never met a jojogay that didn't wanted you to start from Phantom Blood for full context of what's to come.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and rely on decades of history to be understood,
        They really don't.
        You think people watch soap operas from the very beginning? Of course not. Marvel and DC comics are basically soap operas and you should treat them as such.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >most of the time they’re over complicated and rely on decades of history to be understood
        Even when comics actually had continuity that didn't constantly reset every couple of years, you could just pick up any random issue and start reading without a problem. I know because I did. These are not overly complicated stories. On top of that, DC in particular likes to reset its continuity constantly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >manga
        10 years ago there's a bajillion websites where I can read them and now they're all paywalled.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >watch Ironman
      >really enjoy it, go to my comic store to buy an Ironman comic book
      >...
      Literally every Marvel comic was doing a wacky twist where the big name heroes were dead or replaced
      Strange thing is, Marvel went out of their way to kill successful cartoons, shows and video games to reboot them as being more accurate to the MCU but not once did they touch their comics. They just happily let it be Bendiz and his DEI friends write shit that wouldn't look out of place on AO3.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But she wasn't Iron Man when Tony was comatose.
        Doom was. His comics literally had Iron Man in the title.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but not once did they touch their comics
        They literally did Civil War again because of the movie. They mad Electro burn his face so he's look more like Jamie Foxx. They had an entire storyline where they turned Nick Fury black.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you ever really sat down and read a comic book? They are fricking terrible, at least superhero ones. Not one iota of good writing to be found

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're horrible. Shit art and even worse stories.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marvel Comics and DC Comics are still struggling to find the answer to this. But in general it's very simple. Comics are mostly found in hobby shops, and in small corners of dying book store chains like Barnes and Noble. They're hard to find, and more importantly, they're impossible to get introduced to without individual supervision. There's almost 100 years worth of stories. Where does a normalgay start? There is an answer to that question, but it requires a tutor for someone who doesn't have any experience with it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like 10 pages of garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least for me. Having like 300000 multiverse make the stories have no stakes at all since nothing matters.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he didn't go full villain afterwards, he'd be right.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >And anyone who likes Harley should be castrated with fire.
    Don't be stupid. Harley fans (especially the yuricucks) are all women or numales proud of their vasectomies. Nothing to castrate.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does harley quinn get to be "hero harley" after assisting in this?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Gotham lore wise such a shithole anyways?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Built on Indian burial grounds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the narrative you go with, pretty sure the modern one is that it's cursed land built by demon worshippers, cause ol' Thomas Jefferson wanted to summon Barbatos for shits and giggles.

        Why doesn't Batman just ask Zatanna, Constantine, or Dr. Fate to remove the curse of Gotham?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cause Gotham has an anti Zatanna, Constantine, and Dr. Fate shield

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cause magic's cheating when it comes to the war on crime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on the narrative you go with, pretty sure the modern one is that it's cursed land built by demon worshippers, cause ol' Thomas Jefferson wanted to summon Barbatos for shits and giggles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are you black???
        thats a very VERY bad thing anon, fix your race right now! imagine living as a black person, the most horrible thing in the planet and you became just that, isnt that terrible? i would literally kill myself if i was as black as you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the most horrible thing in the planet
          nuh uh, doesn't begin with a j

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            chimpanese???

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes anon chimpanese

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black person

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't begin with a j

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was built on a demon

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kind of sad how supermoron kills him in an instant, he should lobotomize the joker fix his brain and rape him right after that to death... i would call that comic.... the the man (super) who laughs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Knowing how the Joker is treated they'd probably just have him become an even bigger threat after lobotomy, somehow

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ???? you know what maybe what the writers would do is make him even more unpredictable than before, instead of a monologue he literally just kill you right there.... imagine a joker that doesn't frick around, that's literally the devil.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cut off Joblers limbs
        >Harley sneaks in and gives him mecha arms
        >Give Jumpercable a JFK-tier lobotomy
        >Activates some hidden power organ in his brain or some shit and now he can explode testicles
        >Throw Jinglebells in the Phantom Zone
        >Somehow escapes because he's just that dang smart (the writers watched Rick & Morty)
        >Incinerate the Jizzkums soul and destroy his body on a molecular level
        >Satan himself revives him because he's mid fight with Supershit and needs someone to distract him
        The absolute worst thing about Joppysloppy is that his own writers love him too much to kill him. It's why comics are so shite in comparison to manga, because villains tend to actually fricking die in manga, whereas having 60 years of goose chases and 50 million variations of Joblet dying but ALWAYS coming back just never feels substantial. What's the point of reading a story that doesn't end.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cut off Joblers limbs
          >Harley sneaks in and gives him mecha arms
          >Give Jumpercable a JFK-tier lobotomy
          >Activates some hidden power organ in his brain or some shit and now he can explode testicles
          >Throw Jinglebells in the Phantom Zone
          >Somehow escapes because he's just that dang smart (the writers watched Rick & Morty)
          >Incinerate the Jizzkums soul and destroy his body on a molecular level
          >Satan himself revives him because he's mid fight with Supershit and needs someone to distract him
          >The absolute worst thing about Joppysloppy is that his own writers love him too much to kill him. It's why comics are so shite in comparison to manga, because villains tend to actually fricking die in manga, whereas having 60 years of goose chases and 50 million variations of Joblet dying but ALWAYS coming back just never feels substantial. What's the point of reading a story that doesn't end.
          I love you. You hate The Joker and you absolutely get it. You hate the writers and the industry that they work for that empowers this stupidity, and I absolutely love you for it.
          And

          Stop getting mad at buttcheeks.

          I'm not reading all that.
          Stop crying over vidya game butts, you troony.

          >Stellar Blade: The Thread.
          I don't own a Playstation console nor do I care about that video game, but I only ever seem to hear about it when people like you are crying about it.
          Do women with big asses upset you or something?

          is still a homosexual. Guy doesn't own the game with buttcheeks in it and calls me a gay. Kek. If you don't own a PS5, or came about the game, why do you have three responses to me? You'll have more after this post.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            did this guy write yet another wall of text and expect me to read it just because it's green now?
            lol lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lobotomize joker
        >head empty
        >runs purely on instinct
        >do funny = make dopamine = instinctually driven to do funny
        >joker gets a massive power boost akin to super buu downgrading to kid buu on account of having no inhibition

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Killing people was always Superman's red line , Superman always works around a concept of deontological ethics. The second those parameters shift from "murder is always bad" to "killing people who have it coming is fine" then he's just going to kill person after person. Plenty of people are evil and cruel and he's someone who feels duty bound to do what he does, when his duty expands into executioner then a lot of people are going to die and he's going to lose the bedrock of his entire persona.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Killing people was always Superman's red line
      No it isnt hes killed people in tons of other comics without going nutty. Zods gotten killed by him like 3 times.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was justified.
    Wonder Woman pushing him to become even more extreme after the fact is what ruined him. Superman could’ve bounced back from ONE murder. Wonder Woman is the actual villain of Injustice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder Woman just hastened the inevitable at that point , there's plenty of people like the Joker who deserve to be impaled and there's no justification for killing just the joker compared to all those other people.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Superman just rape the Joker?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because DC stories only work in a vacuum, and once you start asking questions like that you realize how stupid superheroes and supervillains are as a concept.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be Batman
    >Cripples goons because they're selling guns which could kill people
    >Still Batman
    >Do nothing to permanently stop the Jonkler from mass murdering people every Friday
    He's an accomplice to every single criminal in Gotham.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked the dream sequence where batman kills the joker, serves time for it, marries wonder woman, and remains bros with superman

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was Lois Lane's fault for being in the wrong place at wrong time while a mentally ill maniac did what he can't help himself from doing.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Killing the Jonkler wasn't the problem. It's Clark's actions afterwards thanks to the influence of Wonderb***h and Sinestro that are the problem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But the story implies he was doomed to be a tyrant moron the moment he killed the joker, somehow

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The comics go more detail in Clark's fall from grace. He made bad choices, had shit friends, and bad enablers.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did he have to become evil, in comics they always try to be black and white. What's wrong with superman killing and still on the right side?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's israeli propaganda to make you think it's wrong to kill people even when they deserve it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i really don't know, maybe the writers are a group of fricking wiener sucking onions boys with no actual talent.... i don't know; what you think? you fricking Black person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      even a cartoon basically answered this. justice league and surrounding stuff with the animated universe, plus other stuff like the red hood, point out that it'd be EASY to kill the worst of the villains and fix the world in their own way, but the slippery slope at that point is easy to fall down and next thing you know, you've gone too far. Injustice was effectively an M-rated take on JL's Justice Lords arc of a parallel timeline where Superman killed Lex Luthor for crossing the line, and they ended up becoming tyrannical there as well if not quite as horrible and broken into civil war as Injustice's Supes and league. the characters effectively have to try to draw the lines and make it black and white or else the blurred gray can lead to easy tipping over, as several villains and heroes alike found out the hard way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but the slippery slope at that point is easy to fall down
        No, it wouldn't. Jason was right, and Batman didn't have a fricking argument.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's wrong with superman killing and still on the right side?
      Because constantly coming up with new characters for your media franchise takes up a lot of time. That's the true reason why "superheroes don't kill" and the ones that normally do don't have much of a (memorable) rogue's gallery.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's part of the naive idea that Superman's, Batman's or any hero's code to never kill outweighs the need for this psycho to die

    If the setting made any sense Joker would be long dead, if not by the heroes or actual law enforcement putting him on the chair, then some security guard from Arkham would have relatives that were killed by Joker and would have wanted to take revenge on him when he's in custody the next time. But it doesn't make sense so the cycle continues indefinitely Joker escapes, Joker kills, Joker gets caught, Joker escapes etc

    I kinda liked that about the Man of Steel movie. Superman didn't want to kill Zod but it was the only way to stop him from slaughtering more innocent people. It's unironically the only way with characters like this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the actual comics, (not Injustice) Superman ends up executing some Kryptonians because they were just too far gone. He doesn't feel good about it, and he goes into exile. Post Crisis Superman has told Batman if it came down to it, and there was no other way, he'd kill to defend the world with his last breath.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the actual comics, (not Injustice) Superman ends up executing some Kryptonians because they were just too far gone. He doesn't feel good about it, and he goes into exile. Post Crisis Superman has told Batman if it came down to it, and there was no other way, he'd kill to defend the world with his last breath.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this moron thinks that superman calmly executing a handful of cryptonians as a last resort is ethically and judicially the same as him killing a human while lashing out in anger

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When did I say they were the same? Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying when it comes down to it, Superman is willing to kill. Breaks his heart when he does it though. Speaking of Joker, I guess you could lobotomize him like Justice Lords Supes did.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are the same. In fact, Superman was a fool for not killing these kryptonians earlier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's pretty cool that it isn't some weird forced moment like Snyder's MoS or anger like in Injustice, it's him deliberately carrying out a sentence and stopping them from doing more harm
        As someone that always stood for justice and submitted to rightful authorities, it makes sense that he'd see the need to take on the mantle of jury, judge and executioner of the sentence

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd have taken that b***hes offer honestly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bad idea, she'd would've killed you in your sleep. If you're gonna have a harem of slave women you need to have a strong systemic power base that would ensure she was punished for anything done against you
          You'd also need to break her with sex

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well you still could while she is warm

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The radiation would probably melt his dick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And then he stopped Bats from killing Joker, who just murdered Jason. Superman is a dick. He also did his best killing Doomsday, but that's easily justified.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I was just misunderstood, I dindu nuffin!
        >I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK SUPERMAN
        lol

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, there's tons of people that want Joker to die, by Superman's hand, by Batman's, whoever. Even in-universe several characters criticize the heroes and Batman in particular for letting Joker continue to live. Jason Todd in particular fricking hates him for it depending on the continuity. The problem is entirely in the fact that Injustice made it a tipping point into having Clark go absolutely tyrannical apeshit, losing Lois and their unborn child and deciding the world can never let that happen again for everyone else.

    The problem isn't so much the act as it is the horizon that was leapt across in the process of making the decision that led to horrific consequences, and a shitty sequel.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im still mad at how utterly shit the movie was. The DC animated shit used to be great.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer my tyrannical dictator Superman from Red Son.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people grew up with Batman TAS where Joker is a mobster who surprisingly has zero kill count.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Most people grew up with Batman TAS where Joker is a mobster who surprisingly has zero kill count.
      The Batman TAS Comic had a sizable amount of shown kills in it, and it took place canon alongside/between episodes of the show.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because obeying laws is important. Superman could've just as easily put him in jail.
    >buh he'll just escape again!
    The only reason he can escape from Arkham just like that is because writers need him to be there to sell comics. Also, if they decided to execute him, it would have to be done by state, not a rogue actor in the heat of a moment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      source? what a delight to see true animation for once

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's from the Max Fleischer Superman animated shorts. They're all public domain so you should be able to find them all on Youtube

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How did those even become public before the Mouse did?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because Yidsney is Yidsney for a reason. They literally extended the legal limitations of copyright multiple times throughout history, just so they could keep their shitty mouse a little longer

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The cartoons can be redistributed by anyone, Superman as a character isn't public domain though and can't be used by other corporations to sell new media. I'm pretty sure he will become public domain soon in the 2030s which will be more interesting than some short of a mouse whistling for 2 minutes.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there actually one true canon where this happens? I thought every main capeshit character has 1000s of issues of contradicting shit with 1000s of nonsensical crossovers from dozens of different writers and illustrators over a period of decades. Do things actually definitively happen to the characters?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Due to the way DC even Marvel works, everything's canon until it's not due their whole Multiverse thing. The Darkseid shown in any piece of media is just an avatar of the true Darkseid. Mister Mxyzptlk got retconned so that every version of him is just the same guy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's technically one primary canon for both DC and Marvel each, there always has been, and then various authors try to follow guidelines and plans as they craft their own individual stories until big event comics bring shit together. anything that doesn't line up can then get booted off to what-ifs, elseworlds, or just stop existing entirely if they weren't cooked up from the start to be weird in the first place. the big problem really is as you say: too many cooks, so many years, so anything and everything can change.

      it's honestly better to find a continuity you gel with and stick to that til it "finishes" if ever, than to try to adapt to a main canon, because at least you can get a theoretically more consistent story.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only batman comic I read was the Doom that Came to Gotham, though I’m assuming that’s a one-shot unconnected to anything else.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the Doom that Came to Gotham
          I never read that one, but I did watch the animated movie adaptation. Does Bruce die at the end of the book too? I do know that the movie added in an Asian girl for divershitty points though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is a "main" DC universe, and a "main" Marvel universe. They are the mainline comic books, typically the books where the title is just "Superhero Name". Then you have alternate universes like the Injustice universe. The books will just be called "Injustice". It's way more complicated than that, but this is the general idea.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only good thing that came out of Injustice was the Exploding Shoe and the NAAAARGH count.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Exploding Shoe
      Disappointed Alfred?

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not the "killing Joker" part it's the "killing Joker and instantly become a fascist dictator, because nuance is dead" part.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember this Marvel story where Spider-Man took a bullet that Jameson shot at Green Goblin because he didn't want anyone to die. Green Goblin is basically Peter's Joker equivalent and he let him live even though he knows Norman is only going to continue making his life worse like with the Death of Gwen Stacy, Norman killing Ben Reily, stealing Peter and MJ's kid, ect... DC and Marvel have the same things going on without end because they can't create new popular villains anymore. At least Vash killed Legato in Trigun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Status quo is a b***h. Peter Parker can never grow up past the idea of the bachelor young scientist man with a heart of gold but attitude issues. So his annulled marriage with Mary Jane from One More Day has still not been rectified to this day, and after the Superior Spider-Man arc where he finally got his body back from Doc-Ock's possession, Peter had a whole fancy company at the top of the world and everything -- and then is found to have plagiarized one of his papers and is treated like a fricking pariah by everyone he knows and ends up giving the company away to return back to being the same old.
      It's absolutely fricked up how characters can't ever see permanent growth without either being killed because that's the only end most authors can see for comic book characters that reached an arc's end, or being pulled back on the rug to where they started because they have to exist eternally.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate Quesada so much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t least Vash killed Legato in Trigun
      Yeah, but he forced him to
      But it'd cool that Trigun showed that Vash's dogmatic devotion to Rem's life philosophy isn't healthy or really applicable to the real world

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funniest thing is any DC continuity is still 100x more idyllic than Marvel. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver hated that Flash had his own museum in his city. Captain America was jealous of Superman. Its the funniest thing ever to learn that even most "mutants" in DC aren't ostracized, meanwhile being born with purple skin in Marvel means a priest is going to send some robotic sentinels to genocide you and your family.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather be Bang Baby in Static Shock than a Mutant in Marvel any day of the week.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Because superman went postal afterwards
    This. Every story where Superman kills is also a
    >Superman becomes a dictator
    story as well.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How come the entire gaming community thinks Superman wasn’t justified for killing Joker?
    It's because Batman said so and the community always agrees with Batman. Do you know how much power Batman holds? He could change the minds of pro-palestine gays with a few words and make them wish for genocide.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like Black Clothes has become more of a Conner thing than Clark

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the problem with synder shit was the writing overall and the weird performances, one can make all the comments they want about colors and tone or costume designs, but the entire "death by tornado" shit with Jonathan is still probably one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in a Superman adaptation of any sort.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Waller just use the Wayne Baby batter on herself?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She knows that despite small number, big number. She would never risk it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She was saving herself for her true love, Lex Luthor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't have Black Batman
      >Too old and the eggs ran dry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She was already middle aged when Bruce was in his 30s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The next part of her plan was killing the kids parents.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So, impregnate herself and then put the kid up for adoption, without the kid ever finding out she was the mom.
        Then the kid would both have the blood of the Wayne and the blood of the Wall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strength of a black man
      >ingenuity of Batman
      Unironically too powerful

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    amerimutt puritanism has no common sense and only extremes,
    you're either biggest pacicuck there was or genocidal murderer, no inbetweens,
    if you killed a murderer about to commit mass slaughtering you comitted that slaughter twice harder to amerimutt "logic"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >capeslop revolves around the idea that killing your enemies is wrong no matter how abhorrent their crimes
      >capeslop is primarily written by a certain tribe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >capeslop revolves around the idea of not trusting the justice system enough that you take matters into your own hands, but trusting them enough that you're not the one trying and punishing the criminals you captured for them.
        FTFY.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Warren and Mary are divorced
    >Warren probably thought Mary cheated on him and that Terry and Matt aren't his kids

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly Batman Beyond was edgy, but the fun kind of edgy where it's trying so damn hard to be more mature with guitar tones and dark color contrasts, yet the characters fumble about and talk so relatively tame. It's weird to actually HAVE a story where characters simply grew old and life moved on as they planned and schemed behind each other's backs to ensure fallbacks or so forth occurred.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought JLA canonizing it was moronic
      I always thought Beyond wasn't the inevitable future of the DCAU but a bad one where things didn't work out
      It's just so miserable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you watch both series, certain things don't line up, obviously because BB predates JL and JLU. Its simpler to say BB is one branching alternate future, where some heroes and events didn't happen, while others did and vice-versa. JLU already introduces various alternate realities and I don't think Hal Jordan or Barry Allen even really exist despite being the inspirations for their respective mythos.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DC used to have good legacy characters and jts partly why we laugh at Marvel's pathetic attemps at pushing black girl Iron Man and the like. I'm willing to bet that almost every version of Green Lantern has fans here apart from maybe Baz.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        simon became based but he's overshadowed by jess who was the clear favorite. Simon has potential in the right hands.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dropped DC around the time where they rebooted again SO all I remember about Simon was that he had a gun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm willing to bet that almost every version of Green Lantern has fans here apart from maybe Baz.
        Even Big Booty Latina Lantern?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jes would probably post in fujo threads on Ganker.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jess is very well liked, yes. She's an autistic shut-in NEET. I kind of wish she kept Power Ring's ring and was a Green Lantern in name only the way Alan Scott is but that's neither here nor there.

          I dropped DC around the time where they rebooted again SO all I remember about Simon was that he had a gun.

          He had a buddy cop book with Jessica where they had to share a power battery and they were fun together.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >She's an autistic shut-in NEET
            How come she's so... fit?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              western comic artists can only draw bodytype A and bodytype B

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >How come she's so... fit?
              I asked the same question ages ago about why a Holocaust survivor whos power does not revolve around physical application was more toned than Olympic athletes. Its either a stylizaiton thing or they know people hate obese or lanky physiques.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can kind of see it with muties because their body chemistry is fricked up. It makes sense for their genes to keep them at peak performance.

                I want more fat girl characters but the only thing comic artists know how to draw is inhuman masses like Big Bertha.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I lifted and ran almost everyday when I was an autistic shut in NEET.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me too
                I mean, I am an autistic, shut in neet, but I also lift and box

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Her becoming a NEET is a relatively recent development for her. As an adult she and her friends were out hiking in the woods and stumbled upon a terrorist cell/crazy militia/ some other thing to describe a group of people wearing fatigues and carrying assault rifles. All her friends got gunned down and she was the only survivor but the whole thing traumatized her into being a shut-in.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Honestly Batman Beyond was edgy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Terry killed people like once every two episodes or fricked them up for life.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's still not what edgy means

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not a response to what he said. You're so over focused on what could be considered the darker elements of the show, that you're forgetting that it actually was a kid's show that a bunch of kids enjoyed back in the day. You're like Spongebob and Patrick, shocked and terrified while the actual children are enjoying themselves.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When I was a kid I always thought the violent things in those shows were cool as shit, not scary. I remember thinking TNBA Scarecrow was th coolest shit I had ever seen, I cringe at 40 somethings calling him scary nowadays lmao. You felt like a badass for watching shit you weren't supposed to.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman and Arkham city are all insane for not putting down these criminals that always seem to escape to kill again.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In DCAU Bruce and Barbara had a relationship
    >That one comic where Dick comes back in time and is gonna be with Barbara. Barbara then learns she's seven weeks pregnant and Dick's only been back for three
    >Also Barbara has a miscarrage and Dick is SUPER PISSED at Bruce
    It's all so fricking hysterical.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      timm had a really strong, fricked up obsession with trying to ship bruce and barbara despite the age and mentor gap. see: the first part of the killing joke adaptation.
      or rather, to those who are still somehow ignorant to it, don't

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In DCAU Bruce and Barbara had a relationship
        >That one comic where Dick comes back in time and is gonna be with Barbara. Barbara then learns she's seven weeks pregnant and Dick's only been back for three
        >Also Barbara has a miscarrage and Dick is SUPER PISSED at Bruce
        It's all so fricking hysterical.

        I like Timm but Bruce x Babs sucks hard. I'm not sure if it's just that he likes age gaps or if it's something due to older versions of the characters we don't have reference for anymore. Like was Batgirl originally paired with Bruce back when she was created? I really don't know.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Like was Batgirl originally paired with Bruce back when she was created?
          Yes.
          >Bruce x Babs
          I actually like it, but it's because taught some classes at a time and fricking your students appeal to me, but it's gross if Babs is in relationship with Dick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't write that comic though and only put the Barb and Bruce line in Beyond for the shock value
        People overestimate how much he likes them together because of the awful Killing Joke movie

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was the episode with the cowboy dude who became immortal but didn't get eternal youth so he just ended up as a suffering mummy man regular or Beyond Batman? Because that shit fricked me up as a kid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember that but it makes me think of Jonah Hex

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barbara was made for Mothman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    which film?
    dc films are nice sometimes

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you talking about comics and animation in regards to the gaming community? moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How come the entire gaming community

      are you illiterate

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that one corrupt tabloid shithead in Beyond who was going to publicly oust terry and bruce to the world thanks to his object phasing technology he let someone else die so he could steal
    >who then falls through the earth because it was unstable and presumably dies at the earth's core

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it's any consolation he'd have suffocated before getting deep enough to boil to death.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody was happy to see Lois Lane gone.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and then there's that one time Superman broke into an execution chamber to save a man framed for murder, but has absolutely no compunctions or sympathy for the real murderer to get the chair

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Superman just fly all of Gotham's super villains to a remote prison like the Fortress of Solitude?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why doesn't he just put the whole world in a bottle, you ask?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The government once beamed a majority of DC's entire villain ensemble to a remote planet, told them they can kill each other, make a new society with the resources there or do whatever. They escaped.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because then the villains would figure out how to take over the place and even escape it, like they did when the US Government threw all the villains away into a distant planet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The "high intellect being" engaging in false equivalency fallacies.
        Unfortunately, characters can't be more intelligent than than Liberal Arts Major writers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman would unironically kill him

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ive always hated homosexuals that don't have nuance in their thoughts. midwits have no values or morals other than upholding the age of consent and begging daddy government to legalize narcotics

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The joker doesn't get killed because it's a comic book and he's the most popular villain. There is no real logical in-universe explanation. If the joker existed in real life he'd be declared a terrorist then get captured by glowBlack folk and be given the death penalty in federal court, and no amount of corruption could possibly save him. If the joker managed to somehow compromise the entire US government and avoid punishment, the entire fricking country would burn to the ground in endless riots. I'm so fricking sick of these threads and endless arguments, UMMMM ACTUALLY IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE GOTHAM IS CORRUPT, UMMM ACTUALLY IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE JOKER CAN AFFORD THE BEST LAWYERS, no you fricking morons it doesn't work like that you can't just kill thousands of people in real life and get off on a technicality or get sent to daycare, when you do the ridiculous horseshit that the joker does you get glowiest Black folk the government has on your ass and sent to federal prison guarded 24/7 by the most powerful army on the fricking planet until you get the chair. None of this happens in the comic book because if the joker died then people wouldn't like that because the most popular villain.

    Imagine if, right after 9/11, osama bin laden was tried in court and found innocent. Every single fricking person on the jury would get beaten to death by rioters the instant they stepped outside and people would start assassinating lawyers and politicians and endless civil disobedience would consume the country as the national guard and army disobey orders and join the rioters. There is no "well jeez the lawyer managed to successfully argue that osama bin laden has autism and is therefore not fit for trial, guess we gotta send him to an asylum instead" or "oh damn al-qaeda threatened the jury into declaring him innocent", there is no possible fricking scenario where a terrorist kills thousands of people and doesn't end up dead after getting caught.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been half a decade since they killed Alfred off.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of all the bad guys they could have used for this, they chose Bane? Have they read a comic book before this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Of all the bad guys they could have used for this, they chose Bane?
        They didn't. They chose Thomas Wayne, Batman's dad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like Owlman Thomas or actual dead Thomas? Why is he cosplaying as the Big Guy?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Flashpoint Thomas.
            The post wedding stuff of Batman was odd, cause it also wanted to slightly tie into Doomsday Clock at the time.
            Then he went off to do shit in Infinite Frontier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many times have they killed Alfred off in recent years?
      Dark Multiverse had a bunch die.
      There was City of Bane which stuck and was in main continuity.
      Elseworlds like Nightwing: New Order and Batman White Knight.
      Probably others I'm missing

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man I'm glad I dropped comics around 2013 because all I'm hearing is schlock like Edgy Joker Batman Who Laffs, evil Dr. Manhattan, Chinese Superman, Gay Superman, Bendis, and so on. Has there been any decent run in the big 2 since then at all?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on who you like as a character. I know Nightwing gays and by extension Teen Titan gays have been mostly loving the post Rebirth shit, aside from Heroes in Crises. Because they've basically pushed the Titans as the main superhero team of DC currently, over the Justice League who haven't had a book in I wanna say at least a year?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I liked Flash, Ted and Michael's Wild Adventures, pretty much the more lighthearted shit that didn't go full kiddy. Snyder and Capullo's Batman was also nice even though Scott can't write resolutions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dr. Manhattan wasn't evil, just curious. He was basically "oh what would happen to this universe if I did this".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Has there been any decent run in the big 2 since then at all?
      I stopped same as you, but one guy from here told me there's been a few good ones, nut in too burned up on capeshit
      Superman Red and Blue is pretty fricking god though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Red and Blue
        Like Electric Superman from back in the 90s?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, a new one written by the 12 Years a Slave guy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We don't talk about them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's honestly a fun part of Superman history, but the meta version of it instead of the actual story.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the one where Superman gets gaysexed by notPutin
        >good

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not that story
          The one where he declares how much he loves earth because his father taught him well

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On the Marvel side, there is The Immortal Hulk run that went for 50 issues back in 2018. Brings back a lot of the (body) horror elements the first comics had, and even the whole "Hulk only comes out at night" for a time.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why won't I establish my own rules when I become a godlike being?
    I will start with fricking buttholes that earns way too much money for their own good.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does fricking My Little Pony have the balls just to kill off Sombra and imprison a literal child in stone, but Batman can't do shit about the mass genocidal clown?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They arw both literally who that nobody cares about unlike Discord who makes fangirls wet their panties.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh yeah, that happened.
    The Brazillian Wonder Woman was better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait I never thought about this, they're Amazons but they're not from the Amazon?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Amazons of the Amazons was a thing in DC for a long time.
        It's basically said they broke off from the Amazons of Paradise Island and set up in well, the Amazon Rainforest. It's how they kept their whole greek amazons as well as having well, you know. Amazon Amazons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where do you think the river got its name from anon? Have you really never heard of the Greek amazons?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Greek Myth of the Amazons, fabled women warriors living on the edge of the known world, is what named the forest, because one of its explorers had his expedition attacked by an indigenous tribe of the region and he mistook them for women, due to their long hairs and lack of beards

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I learned this in the past, it was just erased from my memory momentarily, possibly out of my blood rushing from the excitement I felt upon discovering brown Amazons.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She's based off a real chick btw

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably the only good thing to come out of Infinite Frontier.
              Shame she's stuck being a Wonder Woman character, so she's stuck on the shelf like all the other Wonder Girls and Women

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That woman looks like a south Asian if I’m correct the right looks like a tanned woman

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That woman looks like a south Asian
                ITT anon discovers that amerindians and asians are closely related

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    test

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why don't they just put the Joker in the Phantom Zone?

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best Batman stories are the ones where they leave out all the edgiest shit. Where the writer isn't a hack who has to resort to rape or graphic murder, and it doesn't read like it's written by a 15 year old juggalo.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batman should have been with Zatanna
    Let a childhood (teenager) friend win for once

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one blames him for killing joker
    Its what happened after

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because despite being the most dangerous being alive he’s somehow the lynchpin that keeps superheroes from going insane

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain when the flash turned into a pro gun nut chud? He argues like my grandfather.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to let you in on a secret anon, characters flop wildly on things depending on the writer. Green Arrow is a huge leftist until he isn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gun nut
      >sensibly argues that guns can't be banned on the argument of cause of death because we're factually not responsible for a lot of deaths

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about being pro-gun, it's about a slippery slope (which Superman is clearly on)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Superman is kind of right here though. Gun Control and pretty much any crime control doesn't work as well in real life but it would work a lot better if some ubergod watches everyone from space and gorefists anyone who tries to bring a gun to school.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Something something trading freedom for security something something deserves neither.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Say what you want but it's fact that most people will think twice about doing crime if they're being watched by a murderous god who has come down before to laser some fools.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              After the WW2, moronic asiatic countries didn't think twice about fricking around with each other when bigger countries that have atom bombs that can reduce them to a smear on the map were watching them.
              You thinking Superman being a mad despot will miraculously curb human nature is hilarious. Conflict is hardwired into the human DNA. It's why white people still treat blacks as lessers, why blacks are ridiculously combative. It's why wee baby America revolted against their British Overlords. It's why Hitler marched onto Poland. 50000 years into the futre, if humanity hasn't been replaced by some other species by then, they'll still be at odds with each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's right though, this is the exact mentality that leads to "world in a bottle" behavior.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just ban Cars bro
      Just ban water

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's clearly the type of homosexual where if you tell him marijuana is bad and should be banned he will respond with "oh yea whatabout alcohol? Should that be banned?". Superman should kill everyone that whataboutisms on Earth and we would be a better place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >marijuana is bad and should be banned he will respond with "oh yea whatabout alcohol? Should that be banned?"
        It's not really whataboutism
        You can't allow alcohol as harmless and pretend weed is deadly
        And I fricking hate potheads and their weed worship culture, but it's a fair point that alcohol is allowed and weed isn't even though the former is more dangerous

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's two different arguments. One is not based on the other. You can argue both should be illegal but one doesn't have a bearing on the other. It's a low IQ argument stoners do that they aren't even serious about because they get mad at me when I don't play along and agree alcohol should be banned too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's two different arguments
            Not when you frame it on the basis of harmful potential of the substance itself
            Why don't we ban alcohol if is a harmful substance that can and has caused a lot of damage

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's a false whataboutism because like most whataboutisms on this site, it relies on a false assumption on my stance on alcohol. I tell you alcohol should be banned too? Now what?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it relies on a false assumption on my stance on alcohol
                No, it doesn't. The hypothetical exercise continues regardless of your personal opinion on alcohol
                >I tell you alcohol should be banned too? Now what?
                Now nothing, the argument was about the consistency of laws banning harmful substances, now that you've recognized alcohol is such and you treat it like weed, therefore imposing on it the same measures, the exercise is satisfied

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, it doesn't. The hypothetical exercise continues regardless of your personal opinion on alcohol
                That's false though. The only reason someone deflects to alcohol is to lock me up. That's the whole point of these false whataboutisms. Prevent a discussion from happening and lock a debate up with false implied hypocrisy. It's the most lowest most passive aggressive way to debate.
                >Now nothing, the argument was about the consistency of laws banning harmful substances, now that you've recognized alcohol is such and you treat it like weed, therefore imposing on it the same measures, the exercise is satisfied
                No in reality morons like you will double down and say "what about soda? What about energy drinks? What about Orange juice" and get to a point where your goal is to make me look unreasonable since you refuse to argue why you think marijuana is safe because the goal isn't an honest discussion but to "win". I have done this rodeo many times here and IRL it always plays out the same way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The only reason someone deflects to alcohol is to lock me up
                No, its because alcohol is widely consumed harmful substance whose negative effects are well known
                I don't know who you are, why would try to "lock you"? Your solipsism is insane
                >No in reality morons like you will double down and say "what about soda? What about energy drinks?
                Aren't comparable in harmful potential. If you can find someone who drank too much soda or orange drinks and then killed 5 people in a car accident because of it, I'll concede
                >I have done this rodeo many times here and IRL
                I don't care. Please to try to understand the world doesn't revolve or cares about you moronic ass

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, its because alcohol is widely consumed harmful substance whose negative effects are well known
                No it's because the moron I am arguing with is incapable of stating why marijuana on it's own is a positive thing for someone. See that's hard. It requires you to do research and read and become familiar on the topic. No it's easier to force some implied hypocrisy in a way to end the debate immediately.
                >I don't know who you are, why would try to "lock you"? Your solipsism is insane
                See above. If you were interested in having a discussion your first move wouldn't be to try to deadlock the discussion but you low IQ people love your whataboutisms.
                >Aren't comparable in harmful potential. If you can find someone who drank too much soda or orange drinks and then killed 5 people in a car accident because of it, I'll concede
                The point isn't how dangerous those are the point is when low IQ morons like you use a whataboutism, you want me to contradict myself. It's the reason you use it so you can go "HYPOCRITE HYPOCRITE" and end the discussion so you would keep doubling down listing things trying to finally find something "harmful" that I am ok with and call me a hypocrite. Again, this is why you used a whataboutism in the first place rather than say "Weed is beneficial to humans because yadda yadda"
                >I don't care. Please to try to understand the world doesn't revolve or cares about you moronic ass
                Low IQ people like you always get mad when your BS gets exposed and your tricks don't work. No one who is looking for an honest debate uses a whataboutism. You literally stated above if I said alcohol was also bad the debate is over which is moronic because no argument was made discussing why marijuana should be banned or not which shows how much you are full of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No it's because the moron I am arguing with is incapable of stating why marijuana on it's own is a positive thing for someone
                I mean there's studies about it positive effects. One I know from memory is alleviating ocular pressure.
                But again, for what is the third time, that isn't the argument and never was. The point is drawing attention to why some harmful substances are allowed and others not
                >If you were interested in having a discussion your first move wouldn't be to try to deadlock the discussion but you low IQ people love your whataboutisms.
                You can keep typing "whataboutism" like a trained monkey all you want, it's still not an argument
                >The point isn't how dangerous those are the point is when low IQ morons like you use a whataboutism
                Jesus Christ, read a dictionary. You repeated the same exact phrasing. It's hilarious that you keep harping about "low IQ" when you have the vocabulary of a Black person.
                And yes, the point is how dangerous they are.
                >and call me a hypocrite
                Point me to when I called you a hypocrite.
                >Low IQ people
                >whataboutism
                Good lord. Are you inbred?
                >You literally stated above if I said alcohol was also bad the debate is over
                The hypothetical exercise comparing alcohol and weed is over.
                Please, learn to read

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                alcohol and weed isn't comparable. one drink of alcohol doesnt turn anyone into a violent schizophrenic, one blunt can do it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And alchohol is more harmful so resources would be better spend dealing with it and handing weed afterwards, why is weed the focus now?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do both them. There is no reason why you can't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And alchohol is more harmful
                Wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've heard of body parts getting fricked from substance abuse with both booze and weed.
                I've heard of people fricking up driving when drunk or high.
                I've never heard of anyone being an abusive c**t and beating up their spouse because they were so high.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >drinks 1 beer
                >broooo I'm so drunk rn lol lmao xDDD

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. Those exist. People call em lightweights.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think all consumable vices should be banned and obese people should be publicly executed by being tossed into a den of rabid hyenas.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because he shouldn't have killed him, he should have tortured him. do evil upon evil, make an example out of him.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entire point of heroes not killing villains is that they're not the judge, the jury and the executioner. They are vigilantes that enforce the law on their own but they don't reinterpret it.
    Joker is a criminal so Batman catching him is him enforcing the law like police would. It's not entirely right and still vigilantism but nowhere near as bad as Batman himself deciding who is guilty of what and what their punishment should be. Notice that whatever hurt the heroes inflict on villains is not punitive, it's s byproduct of incapacitating them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cops would have already killed the Joker in self defense or to protect the innocent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, Gotham not executing the Joker is a big plot hole. Even if they don't perform capital punishment, some cop should've eventually just shot the joker even if in self defense.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Joker is still a threat because the writer wants him to be
          He shouldn't be considered too insane to be responsible for his actions, because he clearly it's
          He shouldn't be able to constantly escape prison
          He shouldn't be able to walk off the horrific injuries Batman inflicts on him
          But he does all of that, even if it doesn't make sense

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe this b***h would've have been wheelchaired, if she took a little more after Gorden and shot the Joker.
    What a worthless daughter of a cop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would date

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that Superman killing the Joker is one of the least controversial things about Injustice. More people are wienereyed about him killing Shazam for no particular reason and murdering a building full of orphans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or Oliver shooting the Kents, or Dick getting hit by a stick to the face and falling backwards on a rock and breaking his neck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Oliver shooting the Kents
        It was just one of the Kents, and that was less Oliver shooting them and more Superman deflecting an arrow into Johnathan by accident.

        >Dick dying because he got whacked in the head with one of Damian's nightsticks and falling backwards onto a rock, killing him instantly
        More people were laughing about that one as I recall it. It was a jovial time.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Injustice Comics are written by Tom Taylor who's a massive, capital F homosexual-homosexual-gayboy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Be a hero, suck a dick

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's funny how they try to pacify people with comics. Nowadays it's not Actions are important and here's why, but Being a gay is the best you can aim for in today's world.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone like joker would have a kill on sight order, any random person would want to shoot him, he kills by the hundreds on a regular basis

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason super heroes have a moral code of not killing the bad guys is because the writers didn’t want to keep coming up with new bad guys. It’s that simple.

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker is comic / cape comics central
    Mmmmm...
    That explain the board's hatred towards Japanese media as a whole and the popularity of the "tranime" slur.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >That explain the board's hatred towards Japanese media
      People itt have been talking up DB, stop being moronic and paranoid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DB is a cartoon though, not an anime.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Batman just set up some super prison in the Batcave, incapacitate Joker and lock him up there?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why doesn't Batman just set up some super prison in the Batcave, incapacitate Joker and lock him up there?
      He actually does in Dark Knights: Metal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Joke Man is SO CRAZY that he finds a way out

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was vidya Superman modeled after Bruce Campbell?

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stellar Blade: The Thread.
    Don't talk about the gameplay. Talk about some superfluous shit instead.
    This thread belongs in the comics and cartoons category more than it belongs here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stellar Blade: The Thread.
      I don't own a Playstation console nor do I care about that video game, but I only ever seem to hear about it when people like you are crying about it.
      Do women with big asses upset you or something?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't own a Playstation console nor do I care about that video game, but I only ever seem to hear about it when people like you are crying about it.
        Do women with big asses upset you or something?
        (You true frickin' moron.) I own the game you dumb frick. I jerk off to b***hes with big asses plenty. I have about 75% trophies in the game. What the frick does pointing out that people don't talk about the game have to do with you incorrectly thinking I hate the game?
        You noticed people were blatantly avoiding a pivotal talking point, something that needed to be discussed/addressed, would you bring it up? H'll, you just responded to me with misinformation guiding you, there's no way in hell YOU'D keep quiet if you felt people weren't addressing something.
        Stellar Blade came out on April 26th, and got a dedicated general thread in /vg/ a full month later.
        This thread, THIS thread, has more comments than the GENERAL dedicated to the game that people can't seem to stop making threads about in Ganker, threads which contain next to no actual gameplay talk.
        Please explain to me, how in ANY of that, do I hate the game or have anything resembling my opinion given about the game.
        My opinion is on the morons, like YOU, who actually refuse to discuss the game because, like YOU, they haven't played it, but have an opinion.
        So frick off and have a nice day.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not reading all that.
          Stop crying over vidya game butts, you troony.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >troony
            But you responded, to someone that YOU called a troony. So who's the dickhead here?
            And you're not the only one reading shit on this board, idiot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stop getting mad at buttcheeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And laugh out loud at Injustice the video game 2013 being at a resolution higher than 1080p (in reference to OP's picture).
      Ni-gger please.

  88. 3 weeks ago
    saucy

    I wish I could make a friggin' comic book thread on Ganker with four hundred posts.

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I kill satan am I the bad guy now, do I replace him and take his title and seat of office? Batmans justification was always moronic because it insists upon itself to sell comics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey if you kill satan and replace him could you hit the "refund" button on israelites? We're sick to death of them and they're evil even by your standards.
      Thank you.
      Kind regards, Big Dave.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has to do with moral homosexualry and the whole "the heartbeat must keep going" shit.
    If Superman had lobotomized Joker and turned him into a vegetable, Batman would have been a-okay cause Joker would still be alive despite being mentally dead. Beating the shit out of someone to the point of crippling him and then locking him up for the rest of his life is okay according to the moralgays but ending the life of a career murderer or killing many murderers is bad to them.
    More reason why The Shadow is better than Batman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fellow Shadow enjoyer
      I thought i was one of the only people who even knows he exists.

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this homie just killed my boyfriend

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      giving batman eyes was a mistake

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just like with the X-Men, in a world were one super powered human / insane villain could go schizo and nuke a city with impunity you need the ability to stop that from happening, constantly rebuilding after avoidable disasters Is insane and unsustainable. However, this is a shitty comic book so there is an obviously ideal "good" path, like superman supporting modern fake democracies and only using his godlike power to uphold the flawed status quo.

    Batman is actually a anti revolutionary. If he didn't exist people would eventually just kill the joker or any of his other villains. Batman just uses his power to "stop" bad guys but also keep them from facing actual justice. Honestly if my home was nuked by a clown I'd support super Hitler almost without question unless we was doing gay shit like banning guns. Never read the comics but I think superman would probably be pro gun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Injustice Superman wanted to get rid of guns. His point is that without him to control the entire world, the world won't be safe. You idiots always give up your freedoms to support tyranny. Flash destroys his argument in the comics, Mr Terrific does it in the animated movie.

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally no one is saying that Super was unjustified.

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >off-topic capeshit thread (Marvel)
    >people post cute girls

    >off-topic capeshit thread (DC)
    >no cute girls

    DC officially gayer than Marvel, somehow.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's cause all Marvel has going for it is waifuhomosexualry and self insert homosexualry.
      DC has characters and plots people actually want to discuss

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Breath of fresh air. Every TT 2003 is the same spam.

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do comics even progress nowadays?
    It always seems to be a parallel universe or some bullshit so it doesn't really matter what happens in a comic because in the next one it will be an entirely different story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but actually no. You get 3 years (at most) of progress until there's a complete reset and everything's the same again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And then people wonder why people prefer manga where shit actually happens, permanently, even if it's a shitty shonen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unless it's Conan, which is genuinely the capeshit of the East.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You saying this when people into shonen hold Dragonball in high regard is peak comedy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say that the reason people give DB a pass is both the action and the fact that the dragonballs have been a thing from the very start.
            Whenever a character in a comic dies a few weeks to years later they'll just write in how they didn't actually die through some kind of new mcguffin.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the dragonballs have been a thing from the very start
              Sure, but it had established rules, like only being able to revive someone once, and not being able to grant a wish that it's creator can't. We then learn that apparently Kami is just moronic and big dick Namekian balls can resurrect someone infinitely as long as they don't die of old age, and then you have the black star dragon balls in GT and the Super Dragon Balls in Super where they don't have any mentioned rules at all. It's just "here balls, make wish".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Let me preface seeing this by saying I'm nottrying to start shit, you're right and in capeshit it's always way, way worse than even in DB. Green Arrow getting resurrected cuz of some unexplained magic shit, Jason Todd, all that horseshit. You are right. But Dragon Ball is barely any better, and always the result of Toriyama trying to change his story meaningfully onlo for the editors to go nope.

              >Chaotzu don't die in vain, you can't come back we already brought you back!
              >Oh wait nevermind lmao
              >Well that's it, with me, Piccolo, dying, there's no more resurrection for anyone
              >Wait no the manga has to go on whoops
              >Well I, Goku, choose to stay dead to make way for the next generation, you won't resurrect me Dragon, the world is now yours Gohan and Goten and Trunks!
              >Oh wait nobody likes you sigh okay I'm going back

              Comes off almost as artificial and cheap as anything in capeshit, I'd say the difference is the tone of the story. DB is more "turn your brain off" and capeshit tried to take itself so damn seriously, while you watched stupid editor resurrection shenanigans happen in real time, it was embarrassing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You saying this when people into shonen hold Dragonball in high regard is peak comedy.

          If you take Dragon Ball's narrative, it's genuinely the most cowardly, stakeless story ever told. Nothing fricking matters, from the second Krillin got resurrected and Goku died but came back as a funny spirit man, there's 0 consequences to anything that happens. If you watch something like the original Gundam or Ashita no Joe, or Getter Robo, when someone dies, they're fricking dead and that's that. And even if you brush that shit aside, you can't even take the powerscaling seriously because of all the shitty plot devices and powerups that happen left and right just so characters can keep up lmao.

          I don't know if One Piece's a very good example, because it took them decades to dare and kill Ace, but it was anticlimactic and messy as frick... but then you have insanely weird shit like Kinemon and Izo's confusing deaths. Bubblegum Shonen in general is just as bad as capeshit if not worse sometimes. When a character gets resurrected in capeshit it's usually cuz of a later writer or an editor putting their grubby hands into a story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorta? Comics all suffer from sliding timescales, but there's always events which happen and stick for a while that helps making it feel like there's "progress."
      Problem is that brand comics struggle the worst at making shit feel like it's actually progressing, cause sooner or later they throw in the continuity soft or hard reset.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IIRC Spawn did have a coherent story from start to finish.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, even stuff like Hellboy had actual progress.
          It's an issue for the big two, but it also seeps into other smaller comic book companies when they're doing brand shit. BOOM's power rangers stuff and IDW's Transformers also suffered from the problem. Despite Transformers actually being allowed to progress at times, before it's short reboot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't he have like a year or two where he just sat in his chair crying Wanda?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marvel and DC comics don't. You need to dip your toes into shit from Dark Horse or Image if you want the kino shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dark Horse makes nothing but edgy schlock. Literally the only good thing they've ever done is publish Berserk in the West.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's better than a lot of the slop Marvel and DC are putting out these days, though in fairness that bar isn't very high.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk about that anon but everytime that I see something related to Wonder Woman, I miss my ex she was the only Gf that I had that complied with my fantasy of fricking her while she was wearing a Wonder Woman costume

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Injustice even as standalone What If... makes no sense when they needed to lobotomize a lot of characters to make it work I don't even talking about Wonder Woman or Superman. I mean Flash, Shazam and Green Lantern. And then is complete bullshit when you compares it with Kingdom Come.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because you are arguing with capeshit fans
    >t. Ganker dweller

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Injustice gets even more stupid when you compare Injustice Superman with his Doomsday Clock (for giving a recent example), What happened to the man of tomorrow? or Kingdom Come version's

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    almost five hundred replies in a thread discussing morality of capeshit characters
    lol
    just lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker is full of Ganker refugees. This becomes evident every time a new capeshit game is announced.

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Once Superman is capable of being an executioner, it is only a matter of time before he starts managing entire echelons of society. First, cull the murderers. Then, cull everyone who causes damage to society actively. Then, cull the parasitical, those who cause damage to society passively. Eventually, start culling the ones who aren't doing their best to ensure proper motivation and dedication to prosperity.

    Power corrupts, and the license to kill is a power.

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because death penalty just states: "we will kill those who we do not approve of as worthy of living"
    once that has been established as a right that you hold you start to become an executioner

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is a shitty comic thread allowed to stay up?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's better than another one of your gay ERP coomer threads

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally no one cares about comics anymore though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This thread proves you wrong tho

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its Ganker. There's autists for every single piece of media in existence on here. It's s not a good reference for somethings popularity.

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was but when he started killing innocent people like Shazam he lost his point

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would you kill a child for that crazy Amazonian pussy Ganker?

      >Hey Superman, I bet that kid called you gay. You should frickin lobotomize him lmao

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would you kill a child for that crazy Amazonian pussy Ganker?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      clearly that child needed discipline

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aways relevant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      daily reminder that superman is an alien and he might have accepted our morals as some code of conduct instead of any intuitive thing, "oh this species behaves in this way so i should too to fit in", that would explain why he threw his morality out the window when joker blatantly broke that social code

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was raised as a kansas boy though. You're not describing Superman.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          we don't know what fundamental differences the species have so meh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My point is it's irrelevant, by default Clark's moral code is the one Pa and Ma Kent taught him, he was with them since he was a baby. That's Superman's point. The immigrant from the stars yada yada. But if you'd want to write a story about Supes learning kryptonian laws as an adult and becoming so thoroughly convinced by them he'd become a born again krypto-inquisitor, that'd be another thing lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah thats moronic
        superman just values life more than anything

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >would you kill a force of nature that keeps killing people if you could?
          that's the moral dilemma isn't it, the moment you kill them you yourself become a murderer, people may forgive your action or even cheer for you but at the end of the day you took someone's life the same as they did proving the rule of the strong in action

          My point is it's irrelevant, by default Clark's moral code is the one Pa and Ma Kent taught him, he was with them since he was a baby. That's Superman's point. The immigrant from the stars yada yada. But if you'd want to write a story about Supes learning kryptonian laws as an adult and becoming so thoroughly convinced by them he'd become a born again krypto-inquisitor, that'd be another thing lmao

          i was humoring the idea of kryptonians having some inherent biological differences that make them feel and think different than earthlings

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but thats the catch
            is not about YOU
            is about the people you saved

            sacrificing yourself is one of the required things in order be a hero

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              one of my favorite exemples

              is not about using too much power, is about he not being able to take life again, he did what was necessary in order to save the amazons and it took a heavy burden on him

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >as long as my actions are not self serving they're justified
              oh boy, that's the mentality that propped up nationalism and totalitarianism, as long as the actions are for the greater good of the in group = it's okay to do actions that would normally be deplorable such as killing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and how many people must die in order for you to keep your false sense of morality?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you are obligated to stop death if you can
                i am not and the assumption that i would have to sacrifice my good nights sleep over some people too weak to defend themselves relying on others for protection or for the sake of some wack job that gets off on killing people
                i choose letting as many of them die as it takes until they handle their own issues, if the thing comes at me ill defend myself until i can't, that may involve finally killing them thing but at that point i would have been forced to do it or perish so i would most likely be able to do it on survival instinct instead of premeditated murder
                not sure if that would change the burden that taking a life brings but at the very least i would not have willingly stained my hands until pushed to the very end

                either that or depending on how clean the things kills are i would probably consider letting it kill me if the death was swift

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i am not
                and that says everything we need to know about you

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