Kingdom Hearts 1 is my favorite by far. I liked the way magic worked a lot more, with you having to build up your magic by landing physical attacks. Party member AI also seemed a lot better and blocking attacks with guard seemed way more important. Plus I liked the platforming and puzzle solving that later games don't have. Really the only addition I like in KH II is reaction commands.
>no boss variety, with every boss consisting of teleport spam (>-Melee->Teleport->Melee->Teleport, etc) making it a game of Simon Says than anything else >no gimmicks, no additional objectives, just hit the boss til they die shit >positioning and spacing is irrelevant thanks to Air Step, with ground and air being the same exact shit (never mind the general mechanics of KH3 being terrible) >too restrictive in how you can approach them (constant random hyper-armor, and dumb downed Revenge Value system for babbies so combo optimization and picking which offensive tools to use no longer matters ) >DMs last way too long and kill the pacing of fights (taking control of the flow of the fight away from the player when the whole point of KH2 is freedom) >bosses AI with little to no variation (bosses in 3 literally are hard coded to run down a fricking unbreakable list of attacks in rotation instead of randomly picking from a pool of attacks each phase like KH1/2 and other action games to keep the action reactive/interesting >revenge counters were gutted, turning a unique and interesting system into the boring auto-counters of regular action games
> Zexion or Vexen
Those were great, are you moronic?
So you're saying you don't understand good boss design?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm saying you're mentally ill and not worth engaging with
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm saying
is that you're wrong and promoting a bad DLC with shitty hyper-armor spam, shitty use of Revenge Values, shitty melee, and shitty Simon-Says tier garbage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
why are you even here if you're not able to discuss the shit you claim
2 years ago
Anonymous
he's right. the other guy is mentally ill. KH3s bosses are the best bosses in gaming
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wrong. Fans and critics agree that it is not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that other guy
Critics and fans usually talk about how low tier are the new forms, the story, some of the worlds, but they rarely speak about the uberbosses because most fans (and almost no critic whatsoever) fights them
had they ever, they'd be openly praising them as "harder than souls games"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Re:Mind costs too much.
You're paying $30 for something that should have been the ending (even though the new ending still sucks), and a bunch of superbosses. Not many people are willing to do that. As much as we mock it, the primary draw of Kingdom Hearts for the majority of people is the story and characters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he didn't get the entire series for free from timmy on pc
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the primary draw of Kingdom Hearts for the majority of people is the story and characters
Is that still true after how bad 3 was?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>0 arguments
Damn kh3gays really are just XV Black folk
Yes, those are great bosses. Being an idiot isn't an excuse for being wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>great bosses
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's the problem here? Summons/Limits/Magic destroy book world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I’m talking about the books that hit you mid-transition with no way to react. He was also doing it with restrictions.
should have healed
See my response.
2 years ago
Anonymous
skill issue
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he books that hit you mid-transition
Which you can avoid by continuing to immediately dodge or using Magnet Burst. The player just stands there and lets himself be killed, in an area with constant projectiles
2 years ago
Anonymous
should have healed
2 years ago
Anonymous
I love KH2 but shit like book world and moronic stuff like the books hitting you mid-screen transition is moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
prove theres more jank in kh2 bosses then kh3 ill wait
>them like normal bosses
You mean boring as shit. Data Org in 2FM was great because there was a wide variety of gimmicks and diversity in each of them, including LW and Seph. Now everything that isn't Luxord is the same pretty much the same thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>is the same pretty much the same thing.
is pretty much the same*
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd rather have consistently good bosses instead of a variety with many annoying things
Many of those 'gimmicks' are brought back anyway, Luxord, Larxene, Marluxia, Xigbar, Saix, all have the same ones just without the constant reaction commands
2 years ago
Anonymous
>consistently good bosses
Which 2FM does.
>a variety with many annoying things >translation: I don't want interesting gameplay.
>'gimmicks' are brought back anyway
They are also garbage and irrelevant, like everything Osakatrash touches.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do any of these gimmicks involve the boss being unhittable for some time?
considering how KH3 only has one combo (which is exactly the fricking same as the ground combo unlike KH1 and KH2) , no horizontal slash or alternate finishers like ground explosion and one air combo and the animations are really bad and have no weight behind them.
Spamming that same dogshit combo over and over again like the game wants you to do is fricking mind numbing. so yes these bosses needed some variety, they have no personality.
Most of the boss design is good for defensive play but when it actually comes time to hurt the boss you're left with a garbage KH3 Sora and his god awful animations, bad movement and complete lack of fun or well designed combat mechanics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>consistently good bosses
Which 2FM does.
>a variety with many annoying things >translation: I don't want interesting gameplay.
>'gimmicks' are brought back anyway
They are also garbage and irrelevant, like everything Osakatrash touches.
You just sound overly bitter and nitpicky mate
Being different from KH2 =/= automatically bad >b-b-but here's another wall of text!
Don't care control your autism
That point on DMs sound like a skill issue. It's meant to be hard and punishing. Xemnas and Master Xehanort DMs pounded my butthole
>Bosses in 3 do a hard coded rotation
This is just a lie. For instance, Yozora (KH3) and Lingering Will (KH2) always start off the battle with a randomised attack and start doing newer attacks and patterns the lower their health pool is.
>That point on DMs sound like a skill issue
No, they factually are too long. Compare Luxord in ReMind to 2FM. One is half the fight, the other is just a finale. The only DM that took a while was Final Xemnas thanks to being forced.
Also in the longer DMs like Ansem's, xemnas and marluxia you can get a combo or 2 in if you're skilled enough.
Same goes for Yozora.
Yozora has atleast 2 opportunities where you can combo him during his dm.
>2 hour dlc episode is on par with a whole game with well designed enemy encounters and bosses
I'll give you the data fights, but the rest of KH3 is extremely mediocre.
>KH3 Remind(has better data bosses too btw)
The only good thing about KHIII are the data battles and Yozora meanwhile KHII is fun all the way through on level 1 critical. I've beaten KHIIFM twice that way many many times and I never get bored meanwhile I don't even wanna think about suffering through KHIII's bland combat just to get to the good stuff.
I don’t just believe it, I know it. It’s customizable as hell, has fast and fluid action, great boss fights, and revenge value mechanics that are fun to strategize around.
no one else commented on your based taste so i will be the one too
sop's combat isn't the best ever but it's absolutely a great/fun game with the job system and is probably bonkers in someone who's actually great at it
I can't think of any and I've been gaming all my life. Revenge value is an ingenious mechanic as long as you don't know the speedrun strats which means you're going out of your way to find exploits on youtube for a children's game. KH1 gays just say nonsense to make it sound like they're "patricians." You just spam fire in that.
The only good gameplay in KH3 is the data battles. You're forgetting there is an entire game before that.
Because we all remember what fighting Demyx was like.
Of all them frickers, I hate Demyx the most. I do hope that whomever designed him got fired
That being said, I'm perfectly sure Proud Mode KH3 Re-Mind bosses would 100% filter every soulsgay in existence
I know, I still hate it, it gave me massive aids, specially because the motherfricker loved to use that move out of nowhere in the middle of the battle and there you go, rip
at least with marluxia you KNEW you had to git gud
limit form
You mean using a Super-State to achieve victory, which the point of the ability. It's also a good showcase of some of the depth on offer by the game.
>that super-states' purpose is to be used again and again
Yes, that's a hard-coded fact in the game by the way of meter management. You can't be this fricking stupid.
lol
lmao
sure thing, play the game like a noob. have fun all you want.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What is the point of this post if it doesn't contain any arguments. Stupidity for the sake of it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
just a full stop to the argument.
you like to use these "super-states" many times, I don't because I'd rather not spam too much. Both ways are fine and I don't see the point in discussing this any further.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>full stop to the argument
So, stupidity for the sake of it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nah, I'm not the spammer here. Unlike you, I don't see the point in endless replies. But it suits you since you spam moves in the game too.
Go on, reply to this post again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm not the spammer here
No, you're just an idiot. As established.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Likely the same 2011+ newbie who called the other guy autistic for actually taking the time to type out an explanation.
>abuse and use gameplay mechanics are the same thing
I got the heartless form twice and never used the forms again until I figured out you had to level them up to unlock basic moves. The heartless form is supposed to punish the player for abusing the forms, since it's basically a handicap
KH1 is was so much better. Way less bullshit to deal with
>heartless form was supposed to punish the player >mfw it's my favorite one
What can I say? I'm a sucker for "protagonist taps into their dark side and goes apeshit"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't think I've ever seen anti-form in tron before, cool.
I thought the anti-form was really cool. Sucked against bosses that were heavy on reaction commands, but I wouldn't have minded if there was a way to unlock it and use it manually.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I thought the anti-form was really cool.
It is undeniably cool. I just found it to be a hindrance to the actual fights, so much so I would rather not use any forms at all in the chance I get unlucky with that one
2 years ago
Anonymous
Iirc, you have to equip the two become one keyblade on your mainhand and select any form but final form to transform into it manually
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I knew about that, but it's a bit cucked since the form is always at 5 and always drains you to 0, even with Two Become One.
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's a whole obscure formula to determine when anti-form procs available somewhere online
I get so fricking mad everytime I rewatch gameplay from Versus.
Even with all the unpolish from them being early builds, they still seemed so much more fun and well put together than whatever ended up on XV.
What happened to VersusXIII will always go down as the greatest injustice of the industry.
I was hyped for that game more than any other in my life.
There are a bunch of "clones" I'm surprised there aren't more of. Zelda comes to mind, considering how popular it is.
There's Darksiders and what else?
>isn't it?
it has a lot of odd similarities so much so that you couldn't call it anything but a zelda clone
2 years ago
Anonymous
Game "journalists" have always been morons. Dark Cloud is nothing like Zelda.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gay seething about colors
And then we had the bloom and brown era
2 years ago
Anonymous
The pendulum always swings because of complaining like that.
People b***hed about shit being too bright and kiddy, so we got brown and bloom, then people b***hed about brown and bloom, so we got the “woke purple/pink” aesthetic— Now people are starting to b***h about that too.
>isn't it?
it has a lot of odd similarities so much so that you couldn't call it anything but a zelda clone
Have any of you actually played Dark Cloud, like honestly? Because it really isn't like Zelda whatsoever outside of the protagonist wearing a green hat. It's honestly kind of fricked up that journos ever tried to force that comparison.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>have any of you actually played
lmao the combat is ripped directly from oot >locked camera >slingshot >sword >it really isn't like zelda whatsoever outside of the green hat
>tunic
I would add an * to that. Tunic uses Zelda as an initial surface level facade but halfway through it all but transforms into something beyond that.
3D Dot Game Heroes, Neutopia 1 and 2, Golden Axe Warrior, Final Fantasy Legend, Nintendo's own StarTropics, a bunch of indie games, etc. There's plenty of them, they just tend to be really forgettable because they're old and abandoned, never got a sequel, or just plain sucked. It's also just hard to compete with a 35+ year legacy of generally solid games and brand awareness.
>Kingdom Hearts II is a 2005 action role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix in collaboration with Buena Vista Games for the PlayStation 2 video game console.
> atlantica garbage
holy name of Odin I HATE ATLANTICA
also even holier I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE WINNIE THE POOH AND HIS SHIT TIER GARBAGE WORLD
those two worlds should have NEVER existed
>i can already smell the NEO and revenge-system-gays in this thread without even looking at any replies
hey nice shit everyone. vibe check: game and franchise still dead. hope your day is fine at least
imo >play 1 >watch CoM >play 2FM >stop there
is the optimal way to experience the series
i'm still excited for KH4 though cause i'm already in way too deep
I've long grown out of KH but [deep dive] on limewire was the wildest fricking shit when I was 12/13. I remember showing my friend after school ansemreport.com one day.
Sorry but Kingdom Hearts has a stupid shit story and the combat is mid at best. It was only OK when it released and it's only praised buy the kind of millenials that collect funko pops.
story does get stupid. especially when dream drop curb stomps it into moronation with time travel and making sora exceptionally brain dead. Nomura is super autistic.
No. Final Fantasy stories are already hit and miss but the moment you throw in shitty didney characters it's garbage. The combat in KH is as spammy and shallow as any other action RPG and nothing you can try to explain will change that fact. Just because it's your favorite doesn't mean it's actually good.
Don't reply to zoomers just ignore them like their parents.
Broaden your horizons a little, there are people much older than you posting on t his site, not everyone a zoomie.
You're not hitting any nerves anon, you're too used to the people posting around here being thin skinned. It looks like you don't have any actual contribution to the discussion other than covering your ears and screaming because someone disagrees with you.
Amazing, everything you stated was just wrong. How does one become as stupid as yourself?
Feel free to ask yourself, you seem well acquainted with stupidity given the image you posted.
GBA was my first and idk how I made it to twilight town without losing my shit
I also remember my first reaction to playing KH1 and 2 was asking where the cards are and being upset
Why didn't they just make it a sidescrolling action rpg?
Why is it just a retread of 1's plot outside the org13 shit?
It's a high bar. The synergy of its systems are masterpiece level. It's a shame we never got a KH3 on PS3 with 2FMs gameplay refined even more and some more interesting level design to make use of the movement
>Could have finally used all those Keyblade transformations yourself without cheat codes going absolutely berserk. >Instead listen to waifugays for a blank slate telling you to make Kairi playable
Nomura is a hack.
he really needs to stop listening to fans. bringing back Xion and Roxas on a whim despite not planning on doing so; just because people asked for it and in the process undoing the some of the greatest tragedy and emotional impact the series was able to have and then not even execute their return on a level that would justify it; was a huge let down to me
KH1 had better combat than 2 because it integrated RPG elements, party members and the environment into the combat better. There were also genuinely challenging and enjoyable main story fights that were Heartless or Disney villain battles, unlike in KH 2, where most fights against a non-Org member are boring and forgettable.
There are ups and downs to both. I liked KH1's greater emphasis on platforming, but in the original release with the tank camera made things really tedious. Sora also controls way better in 2, which makes the lack of platforming in most parts seem strange. You just wanna run around these maps that they give you, but rarely did you have to do anything with it besides the caves in FM.
Not him, just beat KH3 for the first time recently. No sane person should do a first playthrough on critical for KH3. It is more frick you then KH2 or 1 ever was. You will get oneshot offscreen constantly because they have removed mechanics from the game that allowed you to counter or react to those oneshots and replaced them with attractions. Getting good at KH3 doesn't feel good, it feels like what you were expected to do. I can't wait for KH4.
>Playing KH3 in my houses living room >friends keep stopping in to watch me play >"Wow shits looking crazy and you're not even taking any damage! You must be great at this game!" >Don't have the balls to acknowledge the game is just piss easy
i'm gay
i liek donald duck he is my favorite
Kingdom Hearts 1 is my favorite by far. I liked the way magic worked a lot more, with you having to build up your magic by landing physical attacks. Party member AI also seemed a lot better and blocking attacks with guard seemed way more important. Plus I liked the platforming and puzzle solving that later games don't have. Really the only addition I like in KH II is reaction commands.
good ARPGs are hard to make, and Dark Souls changed what people consider to fit that mold, so most devs no longer try.
Dark Souls is awful though.
i never said it was good, i said that's what devs think now when they hear "action rpg"
>KH3 Remind(has better data bosses too btw)
>NEO TWEWY
>Stranger of Paradise
>Nioh 1 and 2
>Remind(has better data bosses too
Actual moronation.
It's a fact
3's data fights are all straight duels without horrible gimmicks like Zexion or Vexen had
>It's a fact
You're moronic and wrong.
>no boss variety, with every boss consisting of teleport spam (>-Melee->Teleport->Melee->Teleport, etc) making it a game of Simon Says than anything else
>no gimmicks, no additional objectives, just hit the boss til they die shit
>positioning and spacing is irrelevant thanks to Air Step, with ground and air being the same exact shit (never mind the general mechanics of KH3 being terrible)
>too restrictive in how you can approach them (constant random hyper-armor, and dumb downed Revenge Value system for babbies so combo optimization and picking which offensive tools to use no longer matters )
>DMs last way too long and kill the pacing of fights (taking control of the flow of the fight away from the player when the whole point of KH2 is freedom)
>bosses AI with little to no variation (bosses in 3 literally are hard coded to run down a fricking unbreakable list of attacks in rotation instead of randomly picking from a pool of attacks each phase like KH1/2 and other action games to keep the action reactive/interesting
>revenge counters were gutted, turning a unique and interesting system into the boring auto-counters of regular action games
> Zexion or Vexen
Those were great, are you moronic?
>wordswordswords
Oh no, are you that KH2 autist that posts copypastas? I'm sorry for your autism
So you're saying you don't understand good boss design?
I'm saying you're mentally ill and not worth engaging with
>I'm saying
is that you're wrong and promoting a bad DLC with shitty hyper-armor spam, shitty use of Revenge Values, shitty melee, and shitty Simon-Says tier garbage.
why are you even here if you're not able to discuss the shit you claim
he's right. the other guy is mentally ill. KH3s bosses are the best bosses in gaming
Wrong. Fans and critics agree that it is not.
Not that other guy
Critics and fans usually talk about how low tier are the new forms, the story, some of the worlds, but they rarely speak about the uberbosses because most fans (and almost no critic whatsoever) fights them
had they ever, they'd be openly praising them as "harder than souls games"
Re:Mind costs too much.
You're paying $30 for something that should have been the ending (even though the new ending still sucks), and a bunch of superbosses. Not many people are willing to do that. As much as we mock it, the primary draw of Kingdom Hearts for the majority of people is the story and characters.
>he didn't get the entire series for free from timmy on pc
>the primary draw of Kingdom Hearts for the majority of people is the story and characters
Is that still true after how bad 3 was?
>0 arguments
Damn kh3gays really are just XV Black folk
>Zexion or Vexen
>Those were great, are you moronic?
Now I know that you’re a total KH2 fanboy. And I love KH2.
Yes, those are great bosses. Being an idiot isn't an excuse for being wrong.
>great bosses
What's the problem here? Summons/Limits/Magic destroy book world.
I’m talking about the books that hit you mid-transition with no way to react. He was also doing it with restrictions.
See my response.
skill issue
>he books that hit you mid-transition
Which you can avoid by continuing to immediately dodge or using Magnet Burst. The player just stands there and lets himself be killed, in an area with constant projectiles
should have healed
I love KH2 but shit like book world and moronic stuff like the books hitting you mid-screen transition is moronic.
prove theres more jank in kh2 bosses then kh3 ill wait
>>no gimmicks, no additional objectives, just hit the boss til they die shit
Damn...they made them like normal bosses? How dare they!
>them like normal bosses
You mean boring as shit. Data Org in 2FM was great because there was a wide variety of gimmicks and diversity in each of them, including LW and Seph. Now everything that isn't Luxord is the same pretty much the same thing.
>is the same pretty much the same thing.
is pretty much the same*
I'd rather have consistently good bosses instead of a variety with many annoying things
Many of those 'gimmicks' are brought back anyway, Luxord, Larxene, Marluxia, Xigbar, Saix, all have the same ones just without the constant reaction commands
>consistently good bosses
Which 2FM does.
>a variety with many annoying things
>translation: I don't want interesting gameplay.
>'gimmicks' are brought back anyway
They are also garbage and irrelevant, like everything Osakatrash touches.
Do any of these gimmicks involve the boss being unhittable for some time?
considering how KH3 only has one combo (which is exactly the fricking same as the ground combo unlike KH1 and KH2) , no horizontal slash or alternate finishers like ground explosion and one air combo and the animations are really bad and have no weight behind them.
Spamming that same dogshit combo over and over again like the game wants you to do is fricking mind numbing. so yes these bosses needed some variety, they have no personality.
Most of the boss design is good for defensive play but when it actually comes time to hurt the boss you're left with a garbage KH3 Sora and his god awful animations, bad movement and complete lack of fun or well designed combat mechanics.
You just sound overly bitter and nitpicky mate
Being different from KH2 =/= automatically bad
>b-b-but here's another wall of text!
Don't care control your autism
>NEW BAD OLD GOOD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That point on DMs sound like a skill issue. It's meant to be hard and punishing. Xemnas and Master Xehanort DMs pounded my butthole
>Bosses in 3 do a hard coded rotation
This is just a lie. For instance, Yozora (KH3) and Lingering Will (KH2) always start off the battle with a randomised attack and start doing newer attacks and patterns the lower their health pool is.
>That point on DMs sound like a skill issue
No, they factually are too long. Compare Luxord in ReMind to 2FM. One is half the fight, the other is just a finale. The only DM that took a while was Final Xemnas thanks to being forced.
>This is just a lie
They are literal flowcharts.
Also in the longer DMs like Ansem's, xemnas and marluxia you can get a combo or 2 in if you're skilled enough.
Same goes for Yozora.
Yozora has atleast 2 opportunities where you can combo him during his dm.
I gave up trying to dodge some of the harder DMs and just used invincibility from summons to survive them
Its true
It's not, and I explained why.
GOD. I love Action/ARPGs. Nioh, Tales, KH, TWEWY, Nier, God Hand, DMC..speed..fluidity...complexity. Just pure fun. It's the best genre...
ARPGs are great when they're good. But holy moly are they bad when they're bad.
ReMind data bosses & Yozora are better than most of the 2FM data bosses but the overall gameplay isn't nearly as good as 2FM
>2 hour dlc episode is on par with a whole game with well designed enemy encounters and bosses
I'll give you the data fights, but the rest of KH3 is extremely mediocre.
>NEO TWEWY
Based
>pandemic mask c*ck the video game
Nomura made Rindo’s design before covid was a thing, moronic /misc/gay.
>KH3 Remind(has better data bosses too btw)
The only good thing about KHIII are the data battles and Yozora meanwhile KHII is fun all the way through on level 1 critical. I've beaten KHIIFM twice that way many many times and I never get bored meanwhile I don't even wanna think about suffering through KHIII's bland combat just to get to the good stuff.
Nioh is the only decent game you listed. The first two you listed are outright trash, and that includes the shitty DLC bosses.
NEO TWEWY is great, though.
I'm sure you actually believe that.
I don’t just believe it, I know it. It’s customizable as hell, has fast and fluid action, great boss fights, and revenge value mechanics that are fun to strategize around.
no one else commented on your based taste so i will be the one too
sop's combat isn't the best ever but it's absolutely a great/fun game with the job system and is probably bonkers in someone who's actually great at it
I can't think of any and I've been gaming all my life. Revenge value is an ingenious mechanic as long as you don't know the speedrun strats which means you're going out of your way to find exploits on youtube for a children's game. KH1 gays just say nonsense to make it sound like they're "patricians." You just spam fire in that.
The only good gameplay in KH3 is the data battles. You're forgetting there is an entire game before that.
Because we all remember what fighting Demyx was like.
Of all them frickers, I hate Demyx the most. I do hope that whomever designed him got fired
That being said, I'm perfectly sure Proud Mode KH3 Re-Mind bosses would 100% filter every soulsgay in existence
Just use wisdom form and spam fire
I know, I still hate it, it gave me massive aids, specially because the motherfricker loved to use that move out of nowhere in the middle of the battle and there you go, rip
at least with marluxia you KNEW you had to git gud
>would 100% filter every soulsgay in existence
To be fair, anything would.
Because god doesn’t exist and we are in hell
>spamming limit form
this webm was always moronic + lack of skill.
limit form
You mean using a Super-State to achieve victory, which the point of the ability. It's also a good showcase of some of the depth on offer by the game.
>showcase of some of the depth
then one activation should be enough. more than that and whoever's playing is not good enough.
>one activation should be enough
No it wouldn't since the point of Super-States is to use them. That's why he replenishes Drive multiples times .
>the point of Super-States is to use them
were you perharps part of Osaka team during the making of KH3? Yours is truly a sad opinion.
Is this a joke, or are you just being moronic on purpose?
I could ask you the same, anon.
No you couldn't because you just said that shouldn't use Super-States for their initial purpose.
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST USE GAMEPLAY MECHANICS TO WIN THE FIGHT THAT DOESN'T COUNT
>abuse and use gameplay mechanics are the same thing
the difference is pic related.
you are claiming that super-states' purpose is to be used again and again. so yes I can since KH3 is full of unfun super-states.
>that super-states' purpose is to be used again and again
Yes, that's a hard-coded fact in the game by the way of meter management. You can't be this fricking stupid.
lol
lmao
sure thing, play the game like a noob. have fun all you want.
What is the point of this post if it doesn't contain any arguments. Stupidity for the sake of it?
just a full stop to the argument.
you like to use these "super-states" many times, I don't because I'd rather not spam too much. Both ways are fine and I don't see the point in discussing this any further.
>full stop to the argument
So, stupidity for the sake of it.
nah, I'm not the spammer here. Unlike you, I don't see the point in endless replies. But it suits you since you spam moves in the game too.
Go on, reply to this post again.
>I'm not the spammer here
No, you're just an idiot. As established.
Likely the same 2011+ newbie who called the other guy autistic for actually taking the time to type out an explanation.
>abuse and use gameplay mechanics are the same thing
I got the heartless form twice and never used the forms again until I figured out you had to level them up to unlock basic moves. The heartless form is supposed to punish the player for abusing the forms, since it's basically a handicap
KH1 is was so much better. Way less bullshit to deal with
>heartless form was supposed to punish the player
>mfw it's my favorite one
What can I say? I'm a sucker for "protagonist taps into their dark side and goes apeshit"
Don't think I've ever seen anti-form in tron before, cool.
The chad anime boy asserting his dominance over the darkness
I thought the anti-form was really cool. Sucked against bosses that were heavy on reaction commands, but I wouldn't have minded if there was a way to unlock it and use it manually.
>I thought the anti-form was really cool.
It is undeniably cool. I just found it to be a hindrance to the actual fights, so much so I would rather not use any forms at all in the chance I get unlucky with that one
Iirc, you have to equip the two become one keyblade on your mainhand and select any form but final form to transform into it manually
Yeah I knew about that, but it's a bit cucked since the form is always at 5 and always drains you to 0, even with Two Become One.
there's a whole obscure formula to determine when anti-form procs available somewhere online
god i dislike spastic fast paced combat. getting too old or something. Just prefer KH1.
The webm is trash.
they're trying to exploit I-frames to keeping attacking roxas through his super armour but they keep fricking up and taking damage.
>losing health when it's not even a data fight
>unironically using an outdated normalgay buzzword from 2010 like "swag"
i don't care for tryhard boss dueling fights, but i did love drive forms. great game feel to activate one in a dire situation.
2FM is the peak of gaming. Nothing can compare
Make a game without the disneyshit and maybe I'll play it.
Game looked kino.
I get so fricking mad everytime I rewatch gameplay from Versus.
Even with all the unpolish from them being early builds, they still seemed so much more fun and well put together than whatever ended up on XV.
What happened to VersusXIII will always go down as the greatest injustice of the industry.
I was hyped for that game more than any other in my life.
I ain't fair, Ganker. It just ain't fair.
My heart won't let go.
damn i didnt know there was so much footage of 13 especially gameplay, it looked p kino
A Squaresoft focused Kingdom hearts-like cross over game would be neat.
I'm surprised there aren't more KH-like games out there.
There are a bunch of "clones" I'm surprised there aren't more of. Zelda comes to mind, considering how popular it is.
There's Darksiders and what else?
Okami and dozens of indies
Dark cloud and all the souls games tunic
Okami
Oh shit, Dark Cloud IS a Zelda clone, isn't it?
>isn't it?
it has a lot of odd similarities so much so that you couldn't call it anything but a zelda clone
Game "journalists" have always been morons. Dark Cloud is nothing like Zelda.
>gay seething about colors
And then we had the bloom and brown era
The pendulum always swings because of complaining like that.
People b***hed about shit being too bright and kiddy, so we got brown and bloom, then people b***hed about brown and bloom, so we got the “woke purple/pink” aesthetic— Now people are starting to b***h about that too.
Trends come and go in cycles.
Have any of you actually played Dark Cloud, like honestly? Because it really isn't like Zelda whatsoever outside of the protagonist wearing a green hat. It's honestly kind of fricked up that journos ever tried to force that comparison.
>have any of you actually played
lmao the combat is ripped directly from oot
>locked camera
>slingshot
>sword
>it really isn't like zelda whatsoever outside of the green hat
>tunic
I would add an * to that. Tunic uses Zelda as an initial surface level facade but halfway through it all but transforms into something beyond that.
3D Dot Game Heroes, Neutopia 1 and 2, Golden Axe Warrior, Final Fantasy Legend, Nintendo's own StarTropics, a bunch of indie games, etc. There's plenty of them, they just tend to be really forgettable because they're old and abandoned, never got a sequel, or just plain sucked. It's also just hard to compete with a 35+ year legacy of generally solid games and brand awareness.
This is where KH ended for me.
Anything past this is pure fanfiction.
the entire franchise is fanfiction
I am not going to play anything beyond 358/2 anymore. The story and mechanics became so utterly moronic I can't take it anymore.
huh? that's not an arpg
>Kingdom Hearts II is a 2005 action role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix in collaboration with Buena Vista Games for the PlayStation 2 video game console.
>with Buena Vista Games
Who?
arpg =/ action rpg
arpgs are any game like diablo
> atlantica garbage
holy name of Odin I HATE ATLANTICA
also even holier I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE WINNIE THE POOH AND HIS SHIT TIER GARBAGE WORLD
those two worlds should have NEVER existed
>Hating winnie the pooh
You are subhuman garbage and deserve to die slowly and painfully.
have a nice day and go get stung by your beloved wasps you motherfricking garbage of a human being
i want my fricking orichalcum+
Atlantica is entirely optional. Besides how can you hate having finny fun?
Blessed post.
>Remember getting banned from /vg/ multiple times for being blessed
>/khg/
Good times
at least in KH Ariel is white
>i can already smell the NEO and revenge-system-gays in this thread without even looking at any replies
hey nice shit everyone. vibe check: game and franchise still dead. hope your day is fine at least
>vibe check
Go back to Twitter
God, I hate Osaka Team so fricking much. Literally anyone else would do a better job than them.
KH3 was a disaster
KH1 and 2 are peak fiction.
>play 1
>play 2
>play nothing else and never waste my time watching other movieshit
Simple as
imo
>play 1
>watch CoM
>play 2FM
>stop there
is the optimal way to experience the series
i'm still excited for KH4 though cause i'm already in way too deep
Who is he?
Demyx obviously
too obvious so probably
cloaked homosexual # 20
I've long grown out of KH but [deep dive] on limewire was the wildest fricking shit when I was 12/13. I remember showing my friend after school ansemreport.com one day.
has squeenix put out anything with this much sovl in the last 10 years?
what have they been doing over there?
well Versus XIII got canceled and the company nearly died during that time
Nah, they're focusing on farming at the moment
>has squeenix put out anything with this much sovl in the last 10 years?
only one game so far
Octopath traveler had it's soulful moments
Just how long was KHIII under development, really?
They couldn't have possibly delivered something so inferior to 2 in with enough time.
Sorry but Kingdom Hearts has a stupid shit story and the combat is mid at best. It was only OK when it released and it's only praised buy the kind of millenials that collect funko pops.
Wrong on both accounts.
Don't reply to zoomers just ignore them like their parents.
story does get stupid. especially when dream drop curb stomps it into moronation with time travel and making sora exceptionally brain dead. Nomura is super autistic.
No. Final Fantasy stories are already hit and miss but the moment you throw in shitty didney characters it's garbage. The combat in KH is as spammy and shallow as any other action RPG and nothing you can try to explain will change that fact. Just because it's your favorite doesn't mean it's actually good.
Broaden your horizons a little, there are people much older than you posting on t his site, not everyone a zoomie.
Fine speech.
kek looks like I hit a nerve
You're not hitting any nerves anon, you're too used to the people posting around here being thin skinned. It looks like you don't have any actual contribution to the discussion other than covering your ears and screaming because someone disagrees with you.
Feel free to ask yourself, you seem well acquainted with stupidity given the image you posted.
Explain in detail how the story is stupid. Explain in detail using specific examples from the game how it's "shallow and spammy". I'll wait.
Amazing, everything you stated was just wrong. How does one become as stupid as yourself?
I've been trying to replay the series but goddamn Re:Chain of Memories sucks
Stack Blizzard cards and get it over as fast as possible.
GBA was my first and idk how I made it to twilight town without losing my shit
I also remember my first reaction to playing KH1 and 2 was asking where the cards are and being upset
Why didn't they just make it a sidescrolling action rpg?
Why is it just a retread of 1's plot outside the org13 shit?
If you're hating it. Literally skip it and watch cutscenes. When I tried going through the series again CoM almost made me drop it.
Genshin
It's a high bar. The synergy of its systems are masterpiece level. It's a shame we never got a KH3 on PS3 with 2FMs gameplay refined even more and some more interesting level design to make use of the movement
So why did they remove playable LW for Kairi?
No fun fanservice allowed.
because nomura is a prick
>Could have finally used all those Keyblade transformations yourself without cheat codes going absolutely berserk.
>Instead listen to waifugays for a blank slate telling you to make Kairi playable
Nomura is a hack.
he really needs to stop listening to fans. bringing back Xion and Roxas on a whim despite not planning on doing so; just because people asked for it and in the process undoing the some of the greatest tragedy and emotional impact the series was able to have and then not even execute their return on a level that would justify it; was a huge let down to me
Remember when this anons drawing was more exciting than anything from the final battle in 3.
I do.
its beautiful
Holy kino
I like reaction commands and think they look cool and stylish ;_;
>everyone else in the industry had boring QTEs at the time
>square being radical as possible with theirs
>full of "rule of cool"
me2
Hot take:
KH1 had better combat than 2 because it integrated RPG elements, party members and the environment into the combat better. There were also genuinely challenging and enjoyable main story fights that were Heartless or Disney villain battles, unlike in KH 2, where most fights against a non-Org member are boring and forgettable.
>KH1 had better combat than 2
opinion disregarded
There are ups and downs to both. I liked KH1's greater emphasis on platforming, but in the original release with the tank camera made things really tedious. Sora also controls way better in 2, which makes the lack of platforming in most parts seem strange. You just wanna run around these maps that they give you, but rarely did you have to do anything with it besides the caves in FM.
I wished Sonic Frontiers adapted KH combat 🙁
That or Transformers devastation
I'm playing through KH3 for the first time and enjoying it. Its not as good as 2FM and attractions are annoying but its alright.
>I'm playing through KH3 for the first time and enjoying it.
you better be playing on Critical anon
Not him, just beat KH3 for the first time recently. No sane person should do a first playthrough on critical for KH3. It is more frick you then KH2 or 1 ever was. You will get oneshot offscreen constantly because they have removed mechanics from the game that allowed you to counter or react to those oneshots and replaced them with attractions. Getting good at KH3 doesn't feel good, it feels like what you were expected to do.
I can't wait for KH4.
Airstep, dumbass. Water also has some short iframes, you can dodge or guard midcombo and several formchanges have 360 guard but mainly Airstep.
do they not allow you to disable attractions outside of crit?
>Playing KH3 in my houses living room
>friends keep stopping in to watch me play
>"Wow shits looking crazy and you're not even taking any damage! You must be great at this game!"
>Don't have the balls to acknowledge the game is just piss easy