How did persona and yakuza go from years of niche obscurity to mainstream?

How did persona and yakuza go from years of niche obscurity to mainstream?

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They are normieshit

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    persona 5 sold 10 million copies, it aint niche

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      5 was the one that made it mainstream

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        4 made persona a AAA franchise, 5 turned persona into a normie franchisee

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        No, that was persona 4 and it's endless milking.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    persona is already an annual franchise with the loads of shitty spinoffs it pushes out

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Same happened with monster hunter, it doesnt change much and one day its just popular.

      Ironic since persona is a spinoff itself.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Ironic since persona is a spinoff itself.
        Tf you mean, it's always been the main series since p3

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          ur just transphobic thats why you dislike smtv

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >It got upgraded to stand alone franchise after 4 or 5 games
          >It's not a spin off

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    they made good games and people bought them, crazy idea i know

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Cool it with the anti semitism

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    in the past decade west media has started killing itself for some reason so people have started looking at jap media to fill the gap

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is probably the right answer. The games havent changed much but people are just hungry for something that isnt western ESGslop. Same reason no one reads comics anymore and manga is more popular than ever.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >annual
    Screw CoD size sales. All markets are about to collapse and if the bombs don't drop, no one will buy this goyslop.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ichibanbros cant stop winning.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Annual franchises
    This fricked over Zelda, Mario, and Pokemon and this will rape Sonic, the least QA franchise, even harder.

    Have fun SEGAkeks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Since when is zelda annual

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Since they decided to shit out spinoffs and ports in filler years

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Every Zelda thing that has relesed on Switch has ranged from good to great. So you are making no point at all.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Age of Calamity was dogshit, SSHD existed to reaffirmed opinions on the shitty game, and nobody asked for a Cryptodancer spinoff, okay or not.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Both Yakuza and Persona (they're counting spinoffs) have been near annual for over a decade anyway, this isn't actually much of a change

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >this will rape Sonic
      literally that's what happened during the 2000s though

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I thought SEGA decided to take their time Sonic as of Frontiers??
    What changed their minds?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >3D team
      >sonic fangame teams a-c
      >movie/tv
      A sonic product every year

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >>>

    [...]

    rumor

  11. 1 week ago
    Moose

    Persona started getting big around 3, arguably 4, and P4G was one of the top selling titles on the Vita. I think it was #2 even.
    P5 and Yakuza 0 came out at the perfect time where there were no major releases, they both actually advertised to streamers which got a lot of word of mouth, both titles were strong on their own merits with no real need to know about previous titles, and they got you into interesting bits fairly early into the game.

    Nier: A Tomato and Resident Evil 2 Remake also had the same sort of thing happened where they released when there wasn't anything too big coming out, but you can argue that RE as a series is already big due to the millions of sales of every game in the past 15 years or so. This paired with good word of mouth for Nier really pushed that series into the spotlight when it was fairly niche up until that point. If anything I'm surprised we haven't seen Drakengard remakes with quality of life changes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What about monster hunter? Its been the same game for ages but the same game with actual graphics is what it made go mainstream?

      • 1 week ago
        Moose

        I don't play Monhun, just watch gameplay occasionally, but to my understanding World doesn't play exactly like the numbered titles and is easier compared to them so it's easier for newer players to get into. I remember before release fans of the original games were decrying it for being super casualized and weren't happy about it. The open area aspect of it also made it more attractive compared to the loading zone gameplay of the originals, and you also have the fact that I believe it also released in the middle of the big game release windows so it had time to shine. I want to say it also got more advertising than the others.

        Monhun in general was fairly big as a brand on PSP and 3DS so those people carried over to World, and the mix of word of mouth, Capcom advertising it, and it coming out right in the middle of some downtime between releases really helped give it a spotlight.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's more the game being on an actual console and given the attention of a big release
        No one gives two shits about handheld game 3000

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What did yakuza 0 do that the previous 5 yakuza games didnt do? Was it just better localization that made it go popular with normies?

    • 1 week ago
      Moose

      See what I said

      Persona started getting big around 3, arguably 4, and P4G was one of the top selling titles on the Vita. I think it was #2 even.
      P5 and Yakuza 0 came out at the perfect time where there were no major releases, they both actually advertised to streamers which got a lot of word of mouth, both titles were strong on their own merits with no real need to know about previous titles, and they got you into interesting bits fairly early into the game.

      Nier: A Tomato and Resident Evil 2 Remake also had the same sort of thing happened where they released when there wasn't anything too big coming out, but you can argue that RE as a series is already big due to the millions of sales of every game in the past 15 years or so. This paired with good word of mouth for Nier really pushed that series into the spotlight when it was fairly niche up until that point. If anything I'm surprised we haven't seen Drakengard remakes with quality of life changes.

      . It came out at the perfect time and advertised to a bunch of streamers which caused a snowball effect. Baka Mitai also quickly became a meme which further caused more spread due to people wanting to know what the funny meme song is from. 8 in particular should show you how they realize this because of the Big Swell directly making a joke about it and Kiryu singing it during the main story.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Annual
    Big fricking mistake. Persona is already at the FF route, now they're heading straight up Pokemon route.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yea that will go well for them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I like the artstyle, it's just not for Persona queers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Meds, take them

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Like i said, it's not for Persona gays.
        Too "kiddy" and not funko pop enough for the morons, so much they resort to spam.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's clearly another Fire Emblem schizo.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >resort to spam
          But enough about FF gays.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not an argument. You're never getting a fighting game p5troon.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Larry editing the filename
          You are an embarrassment to your family.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >You are an embarrassment to your -ACK!

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You are giving me too much material to counter your moron arguments. Thank you, Larry.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You have no arguments cult member.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >cult
                Your psyop won't ever work, FFcultist.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      why the frick they got BIG MEATY CLAWS

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I never thought id fall in love with a robot

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      aigis is shit

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What a beautiful game.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    are tendies still mad about persona?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No? The beggar shit is just smash trannies nonsense.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Persona
    As long as they take their time with the main ones,i have no problem with they printing spin off.But im also sure that because of this we will never have storys like the 3 one...
    >Yakuza
    they have been doing almost 1 game at year for a long time,so just business as usual i suppose?
    >Sonic
    havent plaeyd one since DX in gamecube,and sincerely i dont give a shit.

    i just hope that they dont kill other atlus games like smt,etrian odyssey,re:schizo,etc.just for persona.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is the soft limp dick type shit gamers do where they're okay with slop being cranked out non stop, only when the series becomes unrecognizable and impossible to course correct do people go "HERRR DURRR WHAT HAPPENED TO TEH SERIES?!"

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza 0 and Persona 3 saved their franchises

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Unironically turning Persona into even more of a slop farm than it already is

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >persona
    Was extremely popular since 3/4. The hiimdaisy comic for P4 was probably more popular than their "Let's Destroy Metal Gear" series and 50% of the Vita sales in the West are likely down to P4G.
    >yakuza
    Japanese companies from 2015-2020 realized the power of youtubers, so Sega made a last ditch effort to get Yakuza to be a thing in the West by sending Y0 to every eceleb in existence. Surprisingly, it ended up working and transformed Yakuza's fanbase from an annoying niche group to an annoying large group.
    If you want to see an alternate future for what may have happened, you have SE's attempts with Dragon Quest. SE forced Dragon Quest Heroes and XI on youtubers, got them to make videos, and nobody bought any DQ games so now SE doesn't even bother with the West beyond obligatory localizations that they don't advertise. Hell, the last DQ Day they didn't even prepare an English script, they had the English side translating on the fly as it happened, was pretty funny and incredibly sad.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they copypaste personas gameplay into yakuza?

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I will never play a Fatlus game.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Becoming an annual franchise is one of the worst things that can happen to a franchise.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    JP-KINO is powerful, so when people discover it they enjoy it. But it's slow to spread at first until it reaches the tipping point
    Pretty much the opposite of westoid-slop which is pushed in front of everyone and they consume it without enjoying it.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Some franchises just start popular like halo, dark souls or assassins creed while other took longer to get there like monster hunter with world, COD with 4 or final fantasy with 7.

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza has been anual for at least 10 years now

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So who's Larry again?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A schizo who hates Sega/Atlus. Obsessed with Persona, loves Final Fantasy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yukiko

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody. Schizos make up fictional, singular entities to get mad at and call anyone who vaguely fits their idea of this entity 'out'.
      It's gotten a lot worse in recent years.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It took these homies like 10 years to make a single mainline Persona game. How the frick are they going to pump one out every year?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They're probably referring to padding shit out with spin-offs and remakes. Yakuza moved away from doing a mainline entry every year and I don't think they are going back.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Weebshit became more mainstream.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At the same time troons became more mainstream. Coincidence?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and now indie YouTube/Amazon slop is currently mogging it as we speak lol

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    is yakuza just japan's response to ubislop games? i don't know anything about them or why they are popular

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There are no towers to climb nor is it open world it just has a hub. I think youre thinking of modern zelda or something

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >no

        >is yakuza just japan's response to ubislop games?
        Yeah basically. But Yakuza reuses even more assets and content that Ubishit.

        >yeah
        i think i understand better now thank you

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >is yakuza just japan's response to ubislop games?
      Yeah basically. But Yakuza reuses even more assets and content that Ubishit.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >annual sonic
    you love to see it

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 3 and 4 lived for years as cultish JRPGs constantly being shilled for a fricking decade complete with anime TV shows and movies along with a half dozen spinoffs and manga until 5 came out and sold the idea of JRPGs to people that didn't give a shit about JRPGs otherwise and then would never play another JRPG again besides maybe Pokemon(and you know they'd be snooty about how they're too good for pokemon on social media too). And then that got a fricking anime and manga and shit immediately and a bunch of other shit cause Atlus won't kill a golden goose but damn if they won't put that shit into overdrive on day 1, though it is hilarious how quickly they fricking rode that b***h into the ground.

    Yakuza is simpler. Yakuza 0 is a much better game than any of the prior titles and had far less baggage being a prequel to the entire series. Yakuza 3, 4, 5 tells people they got a bunch of homework. The number 0 screams "hop in, boys, it's vidya time" Being set in the glamor of 1980s Shinjuku helped a lot too. Following it up with Kiwami helped cement its momentum and starting "fresh" with Like a Dragon 7: Like a Dragon made sure it wasn't just a flavor of the month moment.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >The quality of Persona series should not change.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 6 next year confirmed (unless they remake 4 lol)

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, next year will be the party crossover game lmao.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Im never calling the yakuza games Like A homosexual games

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we won dating simulator chads! stay mad smtgays

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >dating simulator
      Wrong franchise

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I want another Persona Q.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Actual dungeon design that isn't just murder hallways and random setpieces is anathema to the Persona audience.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So new persona, sonic and yakuza game every year or do they rotate so each gets 3 years of development time?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      very well could be,at least for atlus that has 3 studios(4 if you count the new hires from persona studio doing the remakes).

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 5 and reddit memes

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Never another Sega Rally.
    >Never another Daytona.
    >Never another Sega Bass/Marine Fishing.
    >Never another Skies of Arcadia (Probably for the best).
    >Never another good Crazy Taxi.
    >Never another home House of the Dead.

    >Only Sonic.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I know you put "good" just as a way to pretend a game that hasn't even come out yet somehow won't count. But Crazy Taxi does have games announced.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I was referring to the previous phone games. I forgot that a new game was coming out.

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It could work if they're planning to remake the older titles, but I won't be buying spin-offs

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza just decided to turn itsel into a meme and pander hard to the west. Persona decided to turn itself into a generic seasonal anime.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Yakuza just decided to turn itsel into a meme and pander hard to the west.
      funilly enough it sold better in japan than it did in the west

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Japanese pandering to the west is pandering to what they think the west wants which isn't actually what the west wants at all but the Japanese do in the sense of being fascinated by foreign shit.

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This and morons on it like the goyslop channels on YT like two best friends play
    YouTube is ruining gaming.
    Frick not just youtube the people that watch this shit too. If you watch goyslop like this. Frick you.
    I believe that eugenics should use goyslop like this to tell who should live or die. And I don't say this with any hyperbole at all. I want you to die. And I don't even give a frick about persona or sonic or yakuza I'm just sick of youtube ruining everything it touches. Stop watching goyslop on this fricking website you morons. Learn to filter yourself.HHD8DY

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it took them nearly a decade to make persona 5
    that's complete horseshit.

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Persona started at 3

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