how did retro games and static content like tv shows look like on a crt back then? with them being low res

how did retro games and static content like tv shows look like on a crt back then? with them being low res
was it just as awful as using modern lcd monitor and letting it do the upscaling process?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to ask on Ganker, you can just listen to a moron explain it to you on youtube

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Famously bad example. Dumb Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the eyes are not supposed to be red. Its a reflection of red light
        This is insane cope
        Not to mention the fact that the dracula illustration is clearly a different drawing from draculas ingame portrait
        They couldn't convey the art accurately in the game so they drew the pixel art in a way it would come out better on the screen. Is that so hard to understand? The pic is with s-video btw

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the dracula illustration is clearly a different drawing from draculas ingame portrait
          It's literally exactly the same you dumb fricking troony. Take the L

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bringing up trannies of out of nowhere
            go back to Ganker
            Anyway, I'm literally correct. Look at it. The skin tone is a much darker grey as opposed to draculas lightish grey in the art book illustration, the parts of his coat which should be red are made a brownish-red, and the entire perspective of his head is clearly tilted between them. You have to be deliberately moronic to think that the ingame portrait is just the artbook portrait downscaled

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the colors aren't perfectly accurate between the ink in the art book and the pixels on the TV
              >I'm just going to ignore that it's literally the same fricking drawing

              Lmao you really a dumb homosexual
              you don't understand the most basic things about technology
              Take the L troony, don't reject reality like you ultra homosexuals do for everything else.
              I know you're a troon because being bad troon requires levels of narcissism and confirmation bias so extreme you can reject every piece of information you don't like, no matter how comically and absurdly incorrect you are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like what you're showing right now? Nice self own, moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the perspective of his head is tilted
                No it isn't you moron

                IMAGINE being this mindbroken over such an obvious fact
                Take a look at Draculas ear in the artbook in comparison to the ingame drawing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the perspective of his head is tilted
              No it isn't you moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for posting this. I felt insane reading that screencap, and enraged that anyone thought it was cognizant enough to save them, edit it, and repost it.

          Famously bad example. Dumb Black person

          kys
          If any of the posters in that screenshot are here, I hope you lose whatever is left of your eyesight shortly.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >being this butthurt
            It's literally the same image you dumb fricking troony

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TEETH

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >teeth
        Even in the CRT image you can clearly tell those are his lips, he's just biting down.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CRT monitors were generally darker and scanlines caused pixels to merge and blur, which would make the individual pixels less obvious. Many emulators, reshaders, and some games have CRT filters that mimic this effect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >CRT monitors were generally darker
      no they were brighter... unless old and worn out.scanlines were also not obvious except on bigger expensive TV sets like the troonyton.

      >some games have have CRT filters.
      well no. at least not for the sake of mimicing them. IIRC some early 80s PC games purposely programmed in scanlines to save on system resources.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no they were brighter... unless old and worn out.
        Unfortunately, therein lies an inherent flaw of CRTs. Once they aged, the image went to absolute shit. My 1996 ADI MicroScan was completely fricked by 2005, whereas the 17'' SyncMaster I replaced it with still sees use as a secondary display.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >CRT monitors were generally darker
      bro they literally light up the room provided the screen isnt just black

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most people had low tier brands so probably not great

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was fricking horrible I can't believe people are getting hyped up over CRT monitors.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      more smooth motion. no need for V-sync. definitely more bright than most LCD screens.
      almost no input lag unless the game code itself was bad or low FPS.
      that said even if i could get a good quality CRT monitor today, i won't. i'm too used to higher res, and many of the games i play would look ass on a smaller CRT screen(i have a smol desk and a 17 inch was already fricking heavy for me). that and electricity cost is always going up in my resource-poor SEA c**t,so i rather save a bit on low wattage LCDs.

      i only finally got an LCD monitor in 2010 or so, because prices of 1st-hand LCDs dropped to ~110 USDs minimum. it was always over 200 USDs in my SEA c**t unless i bought used or burnt out LCDs. CRT 2nd-hands also became impossible to find. of cose no one is actually selling new CRTs by then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more smooth motion.
        Wat.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Low resolutions look great on a CRT. LCDs held back computer graphics for years by making anything below native res look terrible. 640x480 looks good on a CRT, we could have had full on ray tracing at that resolution.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    480i SD video still looks better on a CRT than any other modern display and that will never change because deinterlacing always degrades the video.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where to download 480i videos online?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        plug in an old console like Dreamcast.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that can't play media except for music cds

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what a shame. play games on it , u doofus.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yeah true I just thought OP was on about anime as well. But, the Dreamcast supports VGA natively, is that not the better option?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >supports VGA natively, is that not the better option?
                debatable depending on monitor/TV used.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see. I own a dell ultrasharp 2007fpb personally

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point is you shouldn’t do this. Just watch higher res on a newer display. Higher resolutions ] are a great thing for video proving it’s not a comical upscale.
        Actively trying to get shitty video to play on your shitty CRT that was made before you were born is mental illness.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >just ignore the hundreds of great tv shows that was made in the 20th century and only watch modern Hollywood slop because it was made with better technology
          God damn what a moron.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think it's really worth it. The only way to find them is to search for straight DVD rips usually. Anything re-encoded will usually be deinterlaced. Personally I can't tell the difference between a good 480p copy and watching a DVD directly of the same show. I just download 480p and watch it in 480i and it works fine. Downloading a DVD rip will usually look work than just downloading a blu-ray quality and downscaling too. Assuming the blu-ray wasn't an upscale to begin with.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DVD rip will usually look worse*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I watch 480i content with RetroArch on my CRT TV.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ssrzzzly the transition from CRTs to late 2000s LCD monitors was quite shit for me.

    yes "HD" and widescreen res made browsing the webz much nicer. but earlier LCDs had pretty obvious motion blur and sometimes screentearing that VSync could not 99 percent get rid of. and there's the fact that my CPU and GPU had to work harder with Vsync to make animation/blurring/tearing less shit on LCDs! i never needed V-sync until I bought an LCD screen!
    also the very first LCD monitor I got definitely was less bright than most of my previous CRTs. also certain viewing angles were bad. sometimes bad due to the strong SEA monkee sun cumming from the window plus the previous fact that the screen was dimmer than my previous CRT.

    i never owned OLEDs or Plasmas so i can't really compare those with ye old CRTs.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dimmer, flickier, shittier
    crt nostalgia is moronic beyond comprehension.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one of these days someone's going to make an "i'm a 1990 zoomer. how did people buy/rent media before digital distribution and streaming?" thread and everyone will answer 100% unironically

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and everyone will answer 100% unironically
      they would all get them wrong because everyone forgot about IRL rental shops, and no one cared to record down the details.

      those who did record them turned into unironical woke troony furries like byuu and KYS-ed. OR decided to trash everything because random psycho marxist told them vidya is now white-male-evil-thing.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gaem?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First I want to say a crt monitor can be a MUCH higher resolution than a crt tv, and the scanlines are nowhere near as pronounced, in fact they were virtually invisible, I don't even remember them. I am talking about monitors here, not tvs.

    When I switched from a crt monitor to an lcd monitor in 2005, it honestly felt like a huge upgrade. And I even remember having LAN parties with friends in 2004 playing ut2004, and only one guy had an lcd monitor, and it looked way better on the lcd than the crts.

    I distinctly remember how when making the switch how much clearer finer things like text were, it looked like it was on the surface of the screen and not behind a layer of glass, almost like you could touch it. We take this stuff for granted these days. Oh, and the blacks are not as black on a crt as people like to claim. I don't care what you saw on youtube, look for yourself in real life.

    In 2010 my lcd monitor broke and I had to go back to a crt for a while because I couldn't instantly afford a new lcd. It looked awful in comparison, it was hard to deal with. I got my second lcd, looked amazing again. Even better this time since my second lcd was 16:9.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Textured polygon-based games looked good on LCDs, but sprite games looked noticeably worse.
      I remember (re)installing Normality after I switched from my ADI MicroScan to the Samsung SyncMaster, and the first thought to pop up was "wow, this looks quite a bit worse than I remember".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Textured polygon-based games looked good on LCDs, but sprite games looked noticeably worse.

        i played lots of emulated 16 bit games yes. the "upgrade" to early LCDs made them look worse.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the "upgrade" to early LCDs made them look worse.
          The lack of in-built dithering, and worse scaling, led to some heavily-in-your-face blocky pixels. Plus, in several instances, colors didn't blend/grade properly (they also relied on the CRT's image softening properties).
          Still, I'd rather get a 1024x768 VGA-only 15'' LCD (VGA-only so it doesn't hunt around for a signal when switched on), over a 1280x1024 17'' CRT, to use as a second screen for one of my old laptops. I just don't give enough of a shit to lug 25+ pounds of plastic, metal and glass around.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    late end CRT monitors had higher than 1080p HD definition with 1600 x 1200 being the standard. due to the way analog crt monitors worked lower rez content blurred better and looked a lot better upscaled than digital screens did. 640x480 and 800x600 were the norm for a lot of pc games and those scaled great on 1600x1200 monitors. scaling worked a lot better on CRT than it does on digital because the CRT bled/blurred a lot better than digital does because of scanlines, etc.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1024 x 768 on a crt monitor looks about as good as 1080p on an LCD, and you get infinitely better motion. It's a much funner experience with stuff like fps games, I recommend anyone get one. I got a new open box one for $150 on ebay. I haven't tried ones that go 1600 x 1200 or the expensive as shit 1080 crts. Probably pointless to go for those, considering OLEDs

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