FNAF has 22 games, 10+ novels, 1 successful movie and is has game and a DLC in development.
Undertale came and went.
Deltarune is somewhere.
How did Undertale lose to FNAF?
FNAF has 22 games, 10+ novels, 1 successful movie and is has game and a DLC in development.
Undertale came and went.
Deltarune is somewhere.
MattPatt
say what?
Man he's going to LOVE this.
I can sympathize with the feeling of wanting your game to be picked up by a popular youtuber but holy shit this guy is desperate.
a bit pedantic, but they were begging for him to dissect the Hello Neighbour tv show kek, not the sequel(s).
funny thing is that if they never acted that desperate, Matpat likely would've made a video on the second game at least. now he's probably never going to touch the franchise again besides referencing it as a joke.
so did mattpatt ever love 'that', or did he just side-eye the hello neighbour guy and move on
He made fun of it and the social media guy got fired, not a joke.
Matpat pls read your dm's. Pls ;_;
this but unironically
Game Theory's multiple deep dives into fnaf lore got it a shitload of notoriety
meanwhile all he gave undertale was the 'sans is ness' meme
I know everyone gives him shit for it, but genuinely I 100% believe the sans is ness theory is actually true.
For those who just have heard the meme its not out of nowhere, and its not actually saying sans is Ness from Earthbound, but Toby Fox's first big project was a halloween earthbound hack with Ness missing, and I 100% believe in Toby's autistic headcannon the version of ness from that story is Sans, but for obvious legal reasons he can never actually confirm that.
Interesting I did only know about the meme and it was funny at the time
>for legal reasons
he absolutely can confirm it legally, he just couldn't do that ingame or in a sold product
>sans is ness theory
While I don't think it was necessarily true, I did find it really interesting which is why I watched his videos at the time.
I never really understood why they gave him this much flak for it.
Even if his "undertale gift to the pope" thing was cringe, it was atleast funny and spawned a lot of memes.
It's more the principle of the thing, people already don't like matpat for basically freebooting off 13 year olds on forums.
Him desperately trying to jump over to undertale after getting fed up with Scott fucking with him was always something people made fun of him for, even if "sans is ness" was a meme people thought was funny.
>ut Toby Fox's first big project was a halloween earthbound hack with Ness missing, and I 100% believe in Toby's autistic headcannon the version of ness from that story is Sans, but for obvious legal reasons he can never actually confirm that.
Where's his cap and his shirt? That's core part of his design? And Ness never had a brother, he just had his sister. I can believe that if he was by himself he could just adopt a new persona, but if he did get a brother later on, why make him lie as well?
As he should.
True, Undertale basically killed Matpat
nonsense, he also gave the pope a copy of undertale
It’s a virtuous cycle where matpat and FNAF reinforced each other’s appeal. FNAF provided a regular stream of games to mine for videos and Game Theorists kept FNAF fresh/relevant in the mindspace of children (now young adults). I think that one of the smarter things MatPat has ever done was resisting the temptation of pouncing on Cawthon for a quick infusion of controversy views after the whole trump donation thing, unlike a large chunk of gaming “media”. I don’t know if they are friends at this point but it’s undeniable that they were instrumental in each other’s success. Cawthon insisted on having Matpat cameo in the movie and say the thing
But MattPatt also shilled Undertale didn't he? Also Hello Neighbour didn't do shit and went under after second game
Hello Neighbor tried way too hard, they were practically begging MatPat to make videos on them. They tried desperately to force a media empire into existence. The franchise literally has 20+ books fucking nobody even knows about.
Matpat would've continued to milk out theories on Undertale/ Deltarune, but after Toby Fox made a tweet calling him out for not linking to Heartbound when he livestreamed it, Matpat has never brought up Toby or his titles in his videos.
>after Toby Fox made a tweet calling him out for not linking to Heartbound when he livestreamed it, Matpat has never brought up Toby or his titles in his videos.
QRD? He didn't make any remarks that the two games looked similar or?
this was like four years ago so my memory might be a bit hazy but you can probably find videos on this issue
basically:
>Matpat played an indie game on his livestream channel called Heartbound and he titled it something like "The Next Undertale!?" with like 90% of the tags consisting of undertale related keywords and barely anything to do with the original game and no link to its steam page or anything like that
>retarded kids from his channel unironically thought it was a sequel and started bombarding the dev online asking questions (at least he claims so)
>dev complains about this on Twitter
>it blows up a bit so Matpat responds saying that he normally doesn't link to games on his channel and the tags were there to help boost the game's popularity with a larger audience who'd probably like it
>Toby Fox responds with picrel, that basically shuts Matpat up
>ever since then he's never made a video on Undertale or Deltarune
>I think the only time he's brought up Toby since then was once on his livestream where he and his wife were complaining about Toby being mean to them
Scott milked the fuck out of it. He kept up with the high demand of the internet.
That's it.
Undertale doesn't have Chica Chicken and her many sisters also named Chica Chicken
also this, Toby Fox drags his ass and let his hype dwindle to a hyper-dedicated cultbase instead of taking the world by literal storm like FNAF did
>taking time to craft your art, making sure it's the best it can be as opposed to shitting out 6 games in like 2 years
the audacity
more like the sneedacity
Organic vs forced success
This, FNAF succeeded in spite of everything, while Undershit was handed everything on a silver platter and still squandered it
What did Undertale squander, exactly?
>in spite of everything
FNAF was the perfect storm of catering to streamers and their exaggerated reactions, kids who always loved "cartoons but edgy/scary" and millennials with nostalgia after Chuck E. Cheese and other shitty fastfood mascots. The only indie game that had a more obvious formula for success is Minecraft.
yep.
undertale is one of those games journalists shilled a lot. Fnaf is the type of game people were talking about regardless of what journos were doing.
no you fucking idiot it's literally the opposite
FNaF flopped originally until 'tubers played it and Funko saw dollar signs
>it's literally the opposite
>FNaF flopped originally until 'tubers played it
How is that not succeding in spite of everything, you retard?
Zoomies really are retarded
are you fucking stupid
One is a good horror game with a decent premise (until they introduce Remnant), the other is a shitty furry fetish bait game with gay goat shotas and big titty goat moms
>One is a good horror game
No it fucking isn't. It's quite possibly the shittiest horror game ever made.
Even in the first game, once you get to like the second night any sense of being scared is out the window and you just click the same 3 buttons over and over again and pray you don't get RNG'd.
>take a classic game (nighttrap) and modernize it into a horror game
>go with animatronic horror because your models are a tad uncanny
>end up making a billion dollars
i'm sorry, but FNAF is impressive. literally created a new genre.
I don't know what that had anything to do with FNAF being a shitty horror game.
>literally created a new genre.
Yeah, "children's horror", also includes other notable titles such as Bendy and the Walking Simulator and Poppy's Scamtime.
>t. Zoomer who played FNAF on mommy's ipad after watching e-celeb scream at it.
Alpha and Zoomer CHADS dab on your jaded, geriatric ass. Enjoy your Silent Hill 2 remake
>t. jaded homosexual who didn't play FNAF on release
FNAF turned the concept of horror games into something that was a fresh of breathe air at the time of it's release.
It was pretty much the only horror game where you couldn't do anything but defend yourself from the monster.
Other games you run away and shit, but FNAF traps you in a room and makes you feel like shit the first time you play it.
>It was pretty much the only horror game where you couldn't do anything but defend yourself from the monster.
For the most part, it still is. The only games I can think that have a style of gameplay similar to fnaf were that one alien rip off and iron lung, and iron lung’s is just barely similar at that
I notice you didn't refute the furry coombait allegations for Undertale.
>pray you don't get RNG'd.
Filtered
Get Good
scott has way more experience with actual games than tobyfox (desolate hope mogs the hell out of undertale), and has great artistic modelling talent. meanwhile, tobyfox made a glorified rpgmaker webcomic and has pretty dogshit development skillz - I think scott has made about 5 or 6 games while tobyfox is still struggling to shit out rpgmaker slop
>while tobyfox is still struggling to shit out rpgmaker slop
And at the same time he has a patreon. How do people justify this shit? Even DUSK took less time to come out, and David Szimansky was almost a solo dev on the game.
>And at the same time he has a patreon. How do people justify this shit?
>desolate hope mogs the hell out of undertale
Not gameplay wise, that's for sure.
see
The music is great, I'm not denying that. But the gameplay isn't.
Not Scott's fault you're too slow to play effectively.
And yet, FNAF is the one synonymous with soullessness, cheapness, shallowness, and profit milking, while everyone waits patiently for Deltarune chapters 3+4.
From what I’ve seen on here, undertale/deltarune is also synonymous with that
deltarune is such lazy garbage
>From what I’ve seen on here
On Ganker. Contrarian nexus of the internet. Where we hate everything and literally any praise you try to give to anything will get someone scoffing at your shit taste.
At least post a better goat boy that stay a goat boy the entire game.
So fnaf isn’t synonymous with soullessness, cheapness, shallowness, and profit milking?
No, it is, because it holds that rep across other websites too.
FNAF is a widely contentious series with people either praising its innovation or despising the cheapness of its gimmicks and Cawthon's totally haphazard writing where it actually feels like he just canonizes the coolest-sounding fan theories without having any plan of his own.
Doesn’t seem like these case, in fact, I think I hear more criticism of deltarune nowadays
>Contrarian nexus of the internet
thats Ganker you fucking newfag
>the one synonymous with soullessness, cheapness, shallowness, and profit milking,
Congrats on perfectly describing Deltarune kek.
this
also this
>profit milking,
The game is free though?
retard-kun
deltarune is free
>while everyone waits patiently for Deltarune chapters 3+4.
yeah, weeks after my 34's birthday.
*34 Birthdays
Fixed that for you
Are you seriously taking whatever homosexuals on Ganker are saying seriously and at face value? Gullible idiot.
One left because he got a bunch of death threat from random people in twitter for voting someone they don't like and the other work for Nintendo.
Esl-kun Scott LITERALLY released a game like a week ago. He ain’t leaving anytime soon.
He did? Based. hope it's good
That dude hasn't stopped bleeding subs since he "came out" that shit's fucking funny
>She
wants to blame it all on transphobia, and not on the fact that their content sucks now. A good chunk of their video is now about their wrestling promotion, and I don't give a shit about that.
A wrestling promotion where he has to PAY THEM to let him wrestle and turned away by Scotty 2 Hotty.
joke games for his autistic kids don't count
receiving death threats is very different when you have a family. scott was also working at a dollar general for years before he hit it big (dollar store wagey nightmare), it's a literal rags-to-riches story no matter how hateful trannies like to spin it.
and what's toby's story? oh yea, hung out with andrew hussy before ripping him off wholesale.
>what does his accomplishment have to do with his accomplishments?!
u mad
Based take. Haters are jealus of scott's rise to success by making a simple game. He took the risks and succeeded like any God fearing person should do. Trannies will never understand for they think cutting their own dick is sacrifice enough to earn approval
Scott left because he had kids that needed time and attention and could not focus on game dev anymore. Its childish to think that a handful of twitter trannies had any real impact on the life of a self employed millionaire.
Hi Jim, How's the under-600k subscriber special coming along?
>under-600k
Holy shit. Wasn't he at like over 900k at one point?
>the other work for Nintendo
Freelance doesn't count
And? He can legitimately said that he did work for Nintendo.
and made a song so forgettable many people don't even remember nintendo tried to hit him up for a pokemon track. but oh- that's not selling out either.
wasn't it just a re-make of his mpreg song
But he wouldn't because his work for nintendo is utter dogshit.
So can the janitor who unclogged the toilets at Nintendo headquarters after someone took a massive dump.
Heck, this guy might even call himself the real life mario for being Nintendo' s plumber!
So one is a multi millionaire chilling with his family in early retirement and the other is a white collar wage slave?
I don't even like Undertale but how is it 'losing' by not having tons of entries? It has as many as it needs to.
FNAF is easy to churn out games. Get some still image renders, make them omgspooky, script the jumpscares, and you're good to go.
Then you add on the fact that it is P E R F E C T for "content creators" like Markiplier and Matthew Patrick to create around and you get a hit that keeps on giving. The FNAF cycle was insane.
>make easy to make game in under a year
>put it out
>reaction let'splay youtubers all want to play it because it's spooky and full of jumpscares so they can milk the thumbnails of them screaming and overreacting
>"video essay" youtubers can pick apart the lore in endless meaningless timeline and hidden detail videos
>repeat twice a year for a few years until you're sick of it
you do it then
>implying shitting out rpgmaker slop is difficult
lel
As a millennial bro I despise high school and college for making me waste so much time, I shouls have continued self learning to make games and learn japanese
because springtrap a cute
he killed multiple children
eggs and omelettes and so on and so forth
They had it coming
Revenge was more important, he had to frame William
You have good taste anon.
Undertale didn't have legions of soibois on Twitch fake-mugging their webcams for internet points
undertale had legions of homestuck fanbois sucking toby dick
>while Deltarune will pretty much have to be good on its own rights to succeed
lol. no. tobyfox needed to put out a finished game in at least under 3 years, and he's not capable of that.
FNAF has the better porn, unironically.
Two main reasons
>Fnaf games were able to be made quickly, both because of their low scope and Scott being productive. Toby Fox cannot make content that fast and on top of that constantly reworks things, this means FNAF rode a hype wave properly while Deltarune will pretty much have to be good on its own rights to succeed
>FNAF games are very good for youtube and twitch content, the prime ways for your game to be advertised. People do like watching reactions to Undertale but not to the extent of influencers getting scared shitless by a super loud jumpscare.
undertale had the potential to spin itself into a real tangile rpg series but Toby dropped the ball too hard by pandering to an audience of internet users that began to die out towards the later-half of the 2010's. even then, he was a one trick-pony that succeeded because he released the game at the right time.
meanwhile. fnaf actually kept up with fan-demand and brought something unique each time while expanding on the lore and Scott show his love for his fans from the very start.
Toby complained about fans robbing him of his privacy around the game's original release and couldn't handle the idea of a fatfurfag financing his game, which also probably broke him.
Meanwhile, FnaF is appealing to pretty much every kind of person outside of weird furries, and Scott still loves them. I would say he is doing pretty well for himself.
Deltarune isn't that much less popular than Undertale, and especially considering that gaming content creators do not play games like that anymore its doing just fine (streamers and youtubers just react now, or play things they're sponsored to)
The So Sorry story is funnier than you made it out to be.
>make a tier goal for three backers to put their OCs in the game as minor characters
>one is good
>one is so good, she becomes a part of the main game
>one is literally an autistic furfag's OC
>tell him it's not a good idea and offer him a refund
>autist persists
>make it so that the only way you can find the sperg's OC is by finding two hidden walls which are impossible to find without a guide
>and even if they find it somehow, the OC will only spawn if you set your computer's clock to a specific hour on Halloween or something like that.
>autist is still seething to this day
Toby can be alright sometimes
the autist is seeting but i would've given toby more credit if he somehow managed to work the furfag into the game somehow. like just work him in but go out your way calling him out by proxy in an opposite manner to the spider girl.
considering the game's reputation today, i think he probably would have gotten more credit doing something like that since nobody really gives a shit about him anymore.
that's the thing. he doesn't work. he's a fucking unlikable fat fuck bullshit poorly designed OC nobody wants to see that shit even ironically.
I thought muffet’s creator also made porn of her, is there any real difference besides muffet’s porn being more vanilla? I honestly don’t know, could someone explain the differences?
I don't think so Muffet was explicitly designed as "Spider Baby" by the creator
What does that mean
I don't believe her creator has drawn porn of her because she was designed to be a little baby spider
Oh, well, I could be wrong but I have heard her creator draws porn of her
IIRC she said Muffet's age is ambiguous and she doesn't mind saucy fan art.
>I thought muffet’s creator also made porn of her
You but back up that claim with evidence, Anon.
why don't they just make it a rule that the game developer has ultimate say and can reject unfitting characters. hiding the character just sounds like a dumb, defeated concede
At the time Kickstarter didn't allow you to forcibly refund one person.
have a disclaimer that the creator can still take your money and not include the character if it doesn't fit the game. there has the be a boundry. obviously there would have to be negotiation
>have a disclaimer that the creator can still take your money and not include the character if it doesn't fit the game.
Yeah no kickstarter would pull your project if you did that.
That being said it's now policy that if someone pulls a butterdragon you can forcibly refund their money and get them to permanently fuck off from the project (and any future projects)
but there is some implicit boundaries. like what if the donator wanted his character to have bare tits or a cock. that would be highly inappropriate for the product. the same could be said about an obvious fetish character like so sorry. i guess that is why they added the refunding stuff. it really wasn't thought out back then
>it really wasn't thought out back then
It was more that they expected people to be better behaved back then.
all it took was for some shit like the kaiju game to really make them realise
NTA but was'nt the issue with So Sorry that it was NOT explicit and it only later turned out that the character was ALSO used for weird fetish art?
The issue is he paid $1000 for a troll tier for a character that was supposed to appear for one room and then presumably die like in homestuck, got mad that's what he paid for, and started harassing other backers because he thought somehow that would give him an entire section in the game and an in game store, and as a result it being a fetish character was leaked.
And on top of ALL of that, this was just trying to get in on becoming an "official artist" on what was pretty clearly becoming a popular thing at that point.
Pretty sure that that is not what happened, but that Toby did not want to include So Sorry at all in his game after finding out that the character was also used by the creator for separate fetish art, hence why Toby wanted to offer a refund but So Sorry,'s owner insisted after having paid for his character to be included, to actually be included.
All the SA goons who shared these later on trooned out and/or became worst sex-pests than furfags are
I know i'm late but there's actually more to So Sorry.
Toby actually did plan on him to be in the main game where he would be encountered in an art gallery. There's even concept art of it. (Can't find it)
It wasn't until some of the autist's haters found out about this and let Toby know just what So Sorry was that he decided to just get rid of the character.
>So Sorry
That's not a name I've heard since Undertale's release month.
>undertale had the potential to spin itself into a real tangile rpg series
It really didn't
They were competing?
Everything is a competition in this day and age, and if it's not then people will make a competition out of it.
It depends
There technically is a very finite amount of money that can be spent for entertainment, but at the same time there are ways for experiencing both of these games for free by watching them
Fnaf's success is similar to Touhou's in the sense that the guy behind it regularly made games which are simple to get the hang of, but provide a decent amount of challenge (Touhou, more than so Fnaf, but still). Similarly, Fnaf has a bunch of shit for people to get invested in outside of the actual games like the schizo lore, fan content, the various cool designs for the bots, etc.
Fnaf also stayed relevant a whole lot longer than UT/DR because Scott steadily released new games and supplementary shit like the books over the course of a few years, and Fnaf also just got a movie, so that definitely helps.
That said, I wouldn't say UT came and went. In Japan, that shit is fuckheug to the point where Toby is basically a celebrity in Japan, and he got to meet all his idols and even got the Yume Nikki dev to come out of hiding for an interview. Fnaf/UT are just two sides of the rags to riches indie dev coin.
Toby Fox didn't have a family to feed so Toby's far less interested in selling out.
That said, the fucking idiot should've sold out
ENTER
He's a big guy
The movie would have been cooler if he never took the mask off.
Why does the suit act like a power armor in this movie?
That's not the springsuit, that's all Slick Willy. Remember that he dismantled the Fazbear Four with his bare hands.
It still amazes me that Golden Freddy (formerly Yellow Bear) was originally just an easter egg who randomly appeared to fuck with paranoid people
I don't understand how anyone can still like either one. Seems to me the kind of games that you had to play as an impressionable teenager to care about.
Eh, things simply aren't for everyone. I can't understand who anyone would like football, pineapple on pizza, or the movies of Quentin Tarantino.
Fnaf is a youtube/streamer torture game with hidden lore for the autists and the robots are furrys
Undertale and Deltarune are basically persona games (friend simulators) but for furrys with the twist that you can also kill them (also gameplay that has some appeal towards mario rpg game fans), also with hidden lore for autists
You could say the same about all videogames
I played UT at 22 and it blew me away and I am still obsessed with Deltarune at 30.
I had a lot of gaming experience at that point too, I've been browsing telhe web and using emulators since I was 8.
That's probably the last game I'll have such feelings for though, both because I am older and because most other stuff I liked is dead and the other options are not as good.
The only thing left to do is make my own little game.
>I played UT at 22 and it blew me away and I am still obsessed with Deltarune at 30.
Unreal Tournament's good but what does fragging have to do with fagging?
I like fnaf for the aesthetics and unique arcade style gameplay
I liked UT when it came out but now Ive moved on, it has some nice music and character moments but the gameplay is atrocious outside 2 optional boss battles.
Deltarune amped up the gay and improved the gameplay slightly but not enough for me to love it also every chapter takes 5 years to come out so the hype dies down
FNAF got milked because Scott Cawthon is a sellout.
Undertale remains untouched because Toby Fox is a based autismo who just wanted to make a good story and doesn’t care about anything else.
They are both equaled.
Bendy is shit. I actually liked the first four chapters in spite of their flaws because they reminded me of a watered down Bioshock, but the ending is so retarded it makes even the dumbest plot point in fnaf look sane in comparison.
It's also buggy as shit and softlocks easily.
You came to the wrong pizzeria, motherfucker.
>tfw school teacher
>have 12-13 year old students that didn't even know there were fnaf games before the movie
Never felt so old before.
>have 12-13 year old students that didn't even know there were fnaf games before the movie
What. They didn't know the movie was based on a franchise that's been around most of their lives?
Nope. It was weird as hell.
12 year olds are completely out of touch except about kiddie shit. They don't know about games.
Because they'd have been 5 when it first came on the internet, 5 year olds are not going to watch markiplier scream at a videogame
Fuck
That would explain why someone recently replied to like an 8 year old comment on youtube and said "How could you possibly know the plot to FNAF 2 when the first movie just came out"
Why are zoom-zooms even hyped for the FNAF movie if this is the first time they're hearing of it?
The kids who grew up with FNAF are nearing their twenties. Just a few weeks ago I overheard heard a bunch of normie-looking college chicks discuss their excitement for the FNAF movie and how they first got to know the games via Game Theorists
>nearing their twenties
I'm 22
>Seeing people shit and piss themselves about Mike, Abby and the animatronics actually having a moment of peace
The point is they're meant to be KIDS IN THE SUITS. They're not heartless murder machines. Even if you want to see it as them lulling Abby into a false sense of security to make her kidnapping/springtrappening less obvious to her until the last minute. They still actually acted like real humans with no interference. Personally I loved this part of the movie because it actually gave them personalities. Something the games failed to do very severely.
>Something the games failed to do very severely.
Well to be fair that wasn't the case until maybe game 3.
Agreed, it was great seeing the animatronics/kids able to behave as and enjoy themselves as the children they used to be before getting murdered and stuffed into the bots. People who complain about that scene have no soul.
>before getting murdered and stuffed into the bots.
Jeez, thanks for the spoiler asshole
Not to mention this is the movie, even the games and books aren't 1:1. Michael Brooks in the book became an Afton in the games as one example.
Say whatever you want about him, but Toby Fox isn't a shill.
He's clearly happy with the money he already made from Undertale for the moment and I can respect him being content to do his own thing at his own pace.
...a shill for who, tard? does scott shill for a bigger, larger scott at home?
FNAF has official funko pops
Undertale/Deltarune does not
welp, better pack it up. scott OK'd FNAF funko pops. he's evil now.
100% of Funko profits go straight to Trump 2024
Undertale has Nendoroids
uhhhhhhh that doesn't count ok, we give toby a pass because undertale helped us transition to our real genders
not funkopops regardless
only pacifistfags that sent death threats to anyone doing genocide trooned out,
genocidechads shit out till this day high quality fangames and don't plan stopping anytime soon
>
Fuck that I need real figures fuck
How come neither series has proper figgies? Do I really need to 3D print some big boob shit?
Toby is a whore, he whore himself to gamefreak, smash bros and anyone possible, also fled to japan.
Five Nights with Furries inexplicably became really fucking popular with children. Also, there's some Youtubers zoomers worship that made a bunch of videos about it.
>Five Nights with Furries inexplicably became really fucking popular with children
>inexplicably
come on now
>Five Nights with Furries
Scott didn't make any of those fan games where the robots are big-titty animal women.
>literally wrong
look up freddy in space 1-3
Those pictures someone else made?
Isn't that something that came out less than a month ago? Are you trying to claim this is what FNAF was for its entire existence?
consider funtime chica
Alright I'm sitting here considering. Go on.
Her whole thing in UCN is as a sexy distraction
>he is not aware
Undertale was made by lazy lib kids who don’t have any drive for success
toby is a homosexual Scott actually scored
that's it
Looking back, it’s weird how fnaf and undertale have any sort of rivalry
They really don't, I literally only seen this from this thread that consists of mainly bait posters
There isn't any rivalry between the two games. There's barely any similarities.
Exact same reason there's 10 Saw movies and 1 Lawrence of Arabia (which is actually 2 reasons)
1. Horror is a genre that is easy to pump out sequels for
2. When you want to make something good creating a ton of sequels is usually counterintuitive to that goal
excellent bait post, but in all honesty, undertale will not age because it's written in that real faggy mid 2010's vernacular. in a way, I think undertale was actually the 2010's scott pilgrim.
I feel like even compared to deltarune, undertale hasn’t aged well. Its pacifism bullshit is so tacky, dletarune feels like it only makes you into the bad guy when you’re trying to be the bad guy unlike undertale.
SWIGGITY SWOOTY
>goat mom is great
>roxanne is better
that's really my stance on it
Scott has the power of god on his side.
>Scott Cawthon's art
>tfw no desolate hope 2
Man, Scott knows how to design robots
Mirad is a hulking beast machine with wires and arms coming out everywhere and yet somehow I find her cute, best Derelict
versus
>Toby Fox's art
Yeah I know who I'm picking
You can't appreciate pixel art
You are a soulless
I can absolutely appreciate good pixel art, undertale's is definitely not turning heads
Shut up you npc
You can't appreciate 8 bit art
We grew up with it that why we like it
Hahahahahahahahaha newfag
That's not 8 bit. That's more like 4 bit. Picrel is 8 bit
what's that game
Wizardry (1987) for Famicom
>pic
That's bullshit right?
>We grew up with it that why we like it
Here's a game you never heard, and nobody will even look into it in this thread. This is great pixel art. Undertale's too character focused and environmentally sprase.
I hate you fucking naggers. What I mean is homosexuals who repost the same stuff. I purposely got a more obscure game to drive my point home, meanwhile a pic that's clearly about CRT, right looks like shit AND isn't even a full screenshot of gameplay, does nothing except confuse the argument you're making.
>I hate you fucking naggers. What I mean is homosexuals who repost the same stuff. I purposely got a more obscure game to drive my point home, meanwhile a pic that's clearly about CRT, right looks like shit AND isn't even a full screenshot of gameplay, does nothing except confuse the argument you're making.
It supports the "old good new bad" argument, so it's fine. You're just being pedantic.
No one plays undertale for the art
he didn't make the art though
desolate hope in particular is a beautiful game, makes toby's pixel art look embarrassing.
Sell me on Desolate Hope. I've been hearing nothing but good things about it here, which is unusual to say the least, so I've been wanting to check it out
you really see Scott's artistic style in it
That's some quality art, nice.
Sounds good, and it being free means I have practically no excuse not to at least give it a chance. I'll definitly have to play it
Every time I see TDH my mind instantly starts playing "Falling Star" by Flying Hands.
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the gameplay's pretty unique, there's sidescroller sections, topdown sections and most notoriously very extremely visually noisy RPG segments, plus these night sections which don't really have much gameplay but holding left
the first two aren't really anything special unfortunately, the third is far too chaotic for there to be much room for mastery, and the fourth is, as you would expect, not very interesting
it's nonetheless really interesting to go through and experience, I would say it's at least worth a playthrough
the visuals and story carry it heavily, but I would say it's the best thing scott cawthon has ever put out, which is unfortunate given that he hasn't done anything but FNAF since 2014
it's free on Steam if that means anything
Sorry bro, you've influenced my future opinion on it.
Can't play it now.
you play as this cute coffee pot robot*.
does this change your opinion
Why is she so hot?
because coffee is good for you
>she
Anon...
wasn't it a joint effort between him and temmie?
Its free nigga go play it
Just started playing it. The art is so intricate and the setting is immediately interesting. Very nice recommendation.
nta but glad to hear, it needs more recognition, it gets a bit grindy towards the end but the ending is worth it. yeah I cried like a bitch.
versus
>Fighting polygon team
I gotta beat the game, man the world was very good. Even if FNAF isn't my thing, the amount of dedication/attention to detail he has is immense.
I watched a Youtube video where some homosexual compares Scott and Toby's writing styles and then at the end he just drops all pretense and goes off on a tangent about how Scott is an evil homophobic republican bible thumper and Toby is a heckin good boi ally and it made me howl with laughter
If were talking Fnaf you could possibly make that argument, but TDH mogs the fuck out of UT's writing any day of the week.
The dude just brand whored FNAF like mad as long as Zoomers were willing to keep paying for it. Broken animatronic robots in a dilapidated theme park ARE pretty creepy, better than lame shit like Slenderman or the Blair Witch at least.
FNAF has Ballora, checkmate Undertale.
>despite being the father of a million children and recently writing and producing a movie, he's made a game
>tobyfox, incel in japan, still trying to squeeze out the same rpgmaker crap from his asshole for almost a decade
not even comparable
Also reminder that earthbound took 5 years to make and deltaroon won't be finished in 25
>BLM posts
>moves somewhere with barely any black people
curious
Undertale has Mettaton neo,
checkmate FNAF.
Jeffree star homosexual
Furfag
>Modern Man (secret secret)
Metal Bird and EZBake Chica lookin hot
Though my money's on Fractal Foxy and Modren (sic) Man
>dobson bonnie
>POP!
god damn it
FNAF was made by a christian.
Undertale was made by a israelite.
Every nuance and little reasonings you could find stem from these 2 reasons.
Both are owned by one lady, which is a israelite too.
I'd say Scott beat a dead horse but zoomers are so braindead that it doesn't matter, they'll eat whatever that franchise becomes
>Verification not required.
Fnaf as a piece of media is functional as a franchise and for merchandising, Undertale simply doesn't.
Not to mention they're entirely different as games with one being far more conducive to derivitative sequels.
1 great game stands tall over a mountain of shit.
Calling undertale a mountain of shit is a little far I think but I do agree with the sentiment. The first fnaf will always be the highest order of kino.
Wait you were implying undetale was the great game weren't you? Nevermind you have a case of the retard brain.
That was my intention. Kek. But I still do like FNAF1
I need more of these stupid things
wish granted
>nobody cared who i was until i took off the beak
remember seeing that on FNAF steam community posts once
>Wrong Fucking Game
Wow sure takes a long time to scrape some pixels in AESprite huh
>wrong fucking game
heh
>Wrong fucking game
I don't want to imagine playing against that animatronic.
bastard has tech that can allow him to see through everything and once he does he will fuck you up 6 ways plus sunday.
FNAF is an easier game to make sequels for, and its cheap prices were affordable for the kids hooked on it.
>best fox fuck me pls
>wangle fuck off no go
lost
>How did Undertale lose to FNAF?
Tumblroids don't actually play games, they just draw gay couples and masturbate to it. There's so much engagement you can make with drawings and music covers alone. There's also not much to discuss about Undertale/Deltarune.
On the other hand, Scott (maybe accidentally) made world building and story telling in a way that makes YouTubers put videos en masse to the content machine for children to enjoy for decades, so it creates infinite engagement.
Let alone the fact that Scott can make more one game per year, while Toby is taking two years to put out 1/7th of a game.
I think Undertale/Deltarune are the better games, but I cheer on Scott a lot more. Good for him.
>vision 20/20
and the last one
I was looking for these. Thanks for dumping them.
Because FNAF is an actual game with at least one genuinely difficult entry in the first one and made its mark on the horror genre while Undertale is a bad game that was peak flavour of the month in every regard
Scott Cawthon likes Undertale btw and has said that he listens to the soundtrack while working
Both of these are entirely believable.
Toby Fox literally put the purple guy into one of his games
I know, it's hilarious
Toby Fox likes fnaf btw and has said he jerks off to the characters sometimes
Everyone who’s not a boomer jerks off to FNAF
>you've lived long enough to see a bunch of unironic zoomers infest Ganker to defend FNAF '''video games'''
Aging truly is a curse.
fnaf threads have been around forever you fucking ape. Zoomer needs to be filtered, you homosexuals are overusing it to hell and back these days
FNAF threads haven't been around 'forever', when it was at peak popularity people here called it what it was: Shitty youtuber reaction bait with '''lore''' as a replacement for story. When the FNAF RPG came out people were shitting on it so hard it got pulled from the store.
The thing I fucking hate about a lot of zoomer bait is that it uses lore as a replacement for actual story telling.
Imagine trooning out this hard over a child's toy.
how the fuck are you supposed to put story telling into a game structured like fnaf. It would have ruined it. Thats like putting story telling into slenderman.
You say this but also memoryholed that there was actually a pretty decent following on Ganker for a time, even during the first game there were fuckers making OC when it was FotM. There was even a /vg/ thread making donut steels and it also warranted more discussion around Scott's other vidya like The Desolate Hope.
I specifically remember this image from those days, too. Shit was so great. Also everyone was gay for Foxy
Strange you decided to zero in on "Fnaf video games" but not tumblrtale "video games".
Weird.
Perplexing.
Because as shit as Undertale is, it actually has gameplay. Last I checked, that was the intent of video games.
Last I checked, they both "have gameplay".
Last time I checked, you have to play FNAF in order to beat it, making it a video game. Do you piss and shart yourself in rage over point-and-click adventure games?
Point and click games literally have more gameplay than most FNAF games. The only shit people ever talk about with regards to FNAF is the 'lore'. Scott could put out out a Chartreuse Guy and everyone here would immediately shit themselves trying to figure out how he fits in the lore.
Undertale has a similar problem with the stupid Gaster shit but again, it still has an actual game and tells a full story without you having to play Freddy Fazbear's Portapotty Simulator to figure out who is the identity of Craptrap.
>Point and click games
So not undertale.
Nobody talks about Undertale's gameplay, either, only its lore and wanting to fuck the goat.
Well, yeah it's a narrative focused game, and you can really get any more complicated than
>It was pretty neat when the flaming rope did an attack with flaming ropes you jump through.
>I liked it when the dummy threw a knife at me
>Remember when you were Blue Now?
>yeah it's a narrative focused game
Then why the fuck are you acting like its gameplay is anywhere near good?
Because it is.
It's just not the focus of the game, where the actual meat of discussion comes from, at least, not when the game's actually out.
But it isn't.
People were talking about how filtered they were getting by Sans forever, what are you even talking about?
Go play ultimate custom night right now, its free
Fnaf has really good gameplay so you have either never played it or you are shitposting
Literally when FNaF came out it was praised for actually having an actual gameplay loop compared the the slew of sequential walking simulator 'horror' games it competed with
>Aging truly is a curse.
Luckily millennials like (You) will all die of alcoholism and/or suicide before they reach 45
>unironic
anyway sex with noelle
Im middle aged and love fnaf, sorry but it is not a series for kids just because you missed out on it
>Aging truly is a curse
shut the fuck up, you're probably only 23
God fearing Christian vs perfidious israelite
Underchuds lost.
>between deltarune chapter 2 and now: The freddy movie got a new script made, casting, fully filmed and released to box office success
>"Chapter 3 cumming soon 4 reel guyz :("
Toby literally fucked everything up.
Mike is bae.
Undertale is some shitty EarthBound clone about depression and transgenderism.
FNAF is a creative 3D/2D Mixed media video game made by a Christian fundamentalist.
FNAF kept getting new lore, we're almost a decade after undertale and with the deltarune project we still don't know the connects to the original or anything about gaster and shit
I never played any of those so I feel like I'm the most qualified to decide
FNAF- gave me Chica r34
undertale- didn't give me shit
FNAF is the clear victor
>undertale - didn't give me shit
Can't relate.
Oh you poor soul...
You've never seen the heaven that's toriel porn
OH FUCK
JANNIE'S GONNA FREAK
MR SPONSOR GET DOWN
hot
this, she is my precious hen wife
Because the creator literally did fuckall in capitalizing on its success
not investing in a team basically killed Deltarune's success with it being dragged on for literally nearly a decade. Deltarune has become more niche RPG than Undertale has.
Post >yfw Talking in Your Sleep started playing
Undertale came and went? No way dude, it's still extremely popular and mainstream.
Undertale is very gay, as in openly homosexual.
Yes, and that's extremely popular and mainstream.
Not so much anymore.
Scott built an empire around fnaf, striking the iron while it was hot. When the first game succeeded he immediately made the second one, then the third and so on and so forth. Every release perfectly spaced out, if something took too long then a book was jammed in between. Now that steel wool is in charge and the games take longer to make they release the not goosebumps to maintain the hype. Every game also has a ton of merch to go along with it.
Toby made one game that was meant to be a test of his ability before moving on to deltarune, it was an accidental hit. And now because he can't get himself together and make new chapters often enough nor is he willing to get a bigger team together. Merch is handled by fangamer so it's incredibly overpriced with experiensive international shipping.
Nowhere the contrast between a conservative and a liberal been more apparent. One one hand you have Scott the entrepreneur with work ethic and on the other hand you have Toby the auteur with perfectionism.
>Scott the entrepreneur with work ethic
Work Ethic is another word for selling out
>Toby the auteur with perfectionism.
ie actual craftsmanship. After communism wins game developers will be paid by the state according to merit and everything will make much more sense.
YouTube kids are an easier target than Tumblr people
FANF is a conservative Christian game, undertail is a trooncore slop.
Right wing media has staying power, while left wing games fall into obscurity the second media attention looks away.
>Right wing media
Contradiction in terms. Right wing art doesn't exist.
Oh, so you're one of those guys who parrot the saying that Videogames aren't Art.
Quite the narrow minded take...
*blocks your path*
These were just actors. It wasn't the same set of Ramones from one song to another.
Because FNAF is garbage
because while FNAF might be for children, undertale is built for trannies
har har har har har
Furries need a constant stream of degeneracy to beat off to or they castrate themselves and light their fursuits on fire. FNAF kept them alive.
UT is way more furry
>2hu has 32 games, 21 print works, 1 anime by ufotable
Does it mean touhou is more successful?
Maybe?
But does Touhou compete for the same market share/fanbase to be compared to FNAF?
Is Touhou making the same amount of money in the Japanese market, like FNAF in the American (or globally for both)?
32 games, 21 print works and 1 anime that nobody plays/reads/watches. The majority of the popularity is the fucking porn.
>hurrr durr why dey make more games if nobody buy it???
Because the games are cheap, ugly and have no substance.
But enough about FNAF
Wrong again touhounagger
people acting like these two are bitter enemies or some shit
scott's an entrepreneur and toby's a passionate low-skill autist
One person made more games.
One person didn't make more.
Once the initial systems were set up for fnaf it was easy to crank them out daily. It takes time to make something with actual soul in it.
I'm not implying that you are wrong, but why does Toby then take forever for his chapter continuations?
The TL;DR is coding an RPG takes exponentially longer than setting up some game logic and just letting it run like a more "arcade" style game like Fnaf does.
All FNAF has to do is
>Check what screen you're on
>If you're on the screen where it's the actual game get where every animatronic is
>Roll a random number between 1 and 20
>Is that Animatronic's number higher?
>It gets to move
>Is it lower?
>Try again.
Meanwhile, Deltarune is both an RPG and made in a more general game engine.
Literally EVERYTHING has to be manually coded.
You can just plonk in
if.Queen(_funny) and it makes every scene for you.
ALL of that has to be manually done and it's a LOT more time consuming.
Additionally, not having 3D assets tremendously slows down production since there isn't a set of models that can be posed into any sort of needed render.
Everything has to be drawn, manually, maybe you get lucky and you can get away with tracing over a sprite to make a new one.
Then you've got things like
>I want susie's bangs to get cut and you can see her eyes
EVERY sprite now needs to have a variant with her bangs cut and you can see her eyes.
RPGs are honestly some of the most deceptively simple games when it comes to development, because you really never think about
>Hey how much of this [In Game Behavior] just happens because it's what it's coded for, or had to be SPECIFICALLY set up to do a SPECIFIC thing.
A good A-B to compare it to something like Fnaf world.
Fnaf World doesn't really have "events" all of its scenes play out with an animation that fetches the leader of your current party and fred bear jumping on screen, and a reusable text box.
Wait, I think I missread.
Do you mean with that, that once an initial soulful system is made, it can crank out additional soulful content more easily like with FNAF?
Or did you mean that Soulful content takes time (implying FNAF had none), which is why there is so very little Undertale content by comparisson?
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU ABOUT YOUR CAR'S EXTENDED WARRANTY!
Today I discovered Ganker would piblicly swallow putrid, rancid, aids-diseased excrements by the gallon in the name of dunking on something they don't like.
Now that's what I call having dedication ans principles!
that's undertale fags for ya
>Undertale came and went.
You fucking wish.
What's FNAF about nowadays anyway?
Purpleman died (real) and the new bad guy is a murder robot that can mimic anyone's voice.
Markiplier
As a Zoomer, I can say it's becuase FNAF stayed in the mind of zoomies across the world while undertale was like a 2 month thing for 97% of people and the rest that stuck with it are internet addicts. No normal 20 year old is going HECKING SANESS???? But they are saying har har har har as a joke.
You're delusional
2 years ago Toby did a sweepstakes event that managed to raise over 10 million dollars in 2 days.
People still love undertale and are hyped for deltarune
>undertale is almost a decade old and anyone under 25 today kinda knows but doesn't care about it because it's aged
i'll say it again, undertale was the 2010's scott pilgrim.
>but it raised a lot of money!!!
undertale fans today are all rich engineer furries with massive disposable income. at first I thought toby was smart to move to japan to capitalize on that sort of cred...but he's done nothing with it.
>I thought toby was smart to move to japan to capitalize on that sort of cred...but he's done nothing with it.
he got Sans in Smash, collab with ZUN and is a reason Moon Remix RPG got a localization
FNAF is a perfect horror trilogy and while 4 was aesthetically good it was the beginning of beating the dead horse
>collab with ZUN when he's beginning to suck ass
shame
>moon rpg got localization
don't really care, I feel like saGa games do everything people think moon rpg does
>how did Undertale lose to FNAF?
More like, how did FNAF lose to Undertale?
Comparing Scott to the yandere dev made sense but this is just outright shitposting.
The average kid just wants cool stories, LGBT shit is very off-putting.
I love Deltarune but Toby needs to update it to so people refer to Kris as the male he obviously is. It made sense to be ambiguous with it in Undertale since that game tried to make it feel like you were playing as a generic self-insert avatar and they usually refer to the player as "the human" instead of "they" or "them" so it felt natural,, but Deltarune isn't going that route so it's just stilted and jarring.
what a strange thread
Always funny to me when people make headcanons about the success of certain games and pretend that two certain game devs don't like each other or whatever lol
I don't think anyone accused Scott of hating toby, and he's too nice to ever really attack anyone. But it's obvious now who's leaving a legacy and who was at the right place at the right time.
Christian work ethic
>entire thread is zoomer gang war
Toby didnt have the output necessary to make a lasting series, Scott was pumping games left and right from 2014 to 2018
UT will never get a movie
Cope.
Undertale got a rep in smash
Because he is chummy with sakurai the japs love it when a successful westerner is a huge weaboo
>Undertale got a rep in smash
are we still pulling this shit in 2023? it's a mii costume, it's got about as much of a rep as Geno does
So did FNAF.
why is security breach so popular yet everyone also says its shit?
It did launch with quite a few problems, most of which have been fixed now. A lot of the non-problems hate was over the game not being a 1:1 copy of the first game. Freddy and crew, Gregory, and Vanny/Vanessa are really popular because of their designs and personalities.
alright yeah that makes sense.
Its kinda weird that the anamatronics are just androids now. But I thought glamrock freddy seemed nice.
To be fair, the animatronics being more "alive" outside of kid souls controlling them was a thing since the beginning, with the bots being able to walk around and interact with guests. It started being more pronounced in Sister Location.
It was a rushed game and had a lot of bugs, outside of that, people liked it.
The DLC was also pretty good.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate x Five Nights at Freddy's
Make it happen.
Arrest.
imagine caring about mii skins instead of genuine characters.
FANF got a 3rd highest box office opening for a horror movie this milenium and you're bragging about bing bing woohu easter egg?
The only reason why undertale was popular was because Toby worked on Homestuck and Hussie let him shill his kickstarter on the homestuck site. All Undertale has ever been was Homestuck homosexuals being the slop eating fags they are. Hence why it's popularity has fallen and why barely anyone gives a shit because homestuck is now completely irrelevant and anyone who still cares are viewed as "those weird and annoying perverts that never grew up" kind of like how people view furries.
>Matpat meets Scott in person for the first time on the movie set
>First thing Scott does is fuck with him by having him wear the Ness nametag
He is a funny guy
Glamrock Chica > Toy Chica.
Markiplier played every FNAF game on release, and the FNAF fandom loved him for doing it. Markiplier played Undertale while going in blind once and the Undertale fandom attacked him for "playing the game wrong". He eventually went back to it months later, but obviously with none of the same enthusiasm.
The answer is simple. The Undertale fandom was forged in toxicity and autism on sites like tumblr, which turns people away from the game and kills any chance the IP gets used in mainstream projects. The FNAF fandom was formed primarily around YouTube instead, which at the time was much less toxic. That tipped the scales just enough so that it could go mainstream.
Undertale never had an big, organic audience backing it, just a shitty small toxic one. The only thing holding it together is Toby Fox himself, and that's the only reason it ever made it to Smash at all.
also because FNAF had like 4 games come out in under 2 years because they're simple and piss easy to make. Fox is handmaking basically everything himself except for some art assets.
>Fox is handmaking basically everything himself
That doesn't excuse how long it takes to release the new Deltarune chapters. In the Halloween newsletter, he said that he "hired a new producer whose entire job it will be to speed up the overall game development for future chapters". I don't know what the hell Toby and his team are doing, but I know that it could be done faster.
to be fair with toby.
the constant collabs he's maing with different big name creators is making deltarune take quite a bit longer to make.
can't blame him.
he's being smart and building up connections in the game industry
>making
I can most certainly blame him for doing endless collabs instead of working on the game.
why should he listen to you?
he basically has an audience of millions of player who can wait a whole decade to play the game.
also now is the best time for him to be doing the collabs since everyone and their mothers know about undertale and deltarune
>why should he listen to you?
I don't expect him to listen to me. He isn't even here in the thread. It's just an observation I'm making. But it looks like even Toby himself isn't satisfied with the development speed now.
Finishing Deltarune faster and watching it inevitably make less money and receive less applause than Undertale is less wise than establishing some industry connections beforehand and landing decent jobs even after the hype is completely over. He's playing the long game.
that's what i've been saying.
he's basically setting himself a good future to work on other big games once he's done with deltarune.
Between undertale, the work he's done for Nintendo+royalties from having the skeleton constume in smash this nagger has enough money to aford help to do everything but the story. Shit, i wish i had half the cash this guy raked in from the original kickstarter to hire help and move our project along.
toby is an autist.
he can't really handle working with a big crew.
it's why he's only really ever hired people he's close with or other artists he's admired
did it really take 9 years for toby to hire a professional?
his pixel art fucking sucks and gets mogged by even basic crap like omori or coffin of incest pandering
>his pixel art fucking sucks and gets mogged by even basic crap like omori or coffin of incest pandering
toby isn't the one making the art you moron.
temmie is.
and her art is pretty good if you check her twitter
>he's not the one making the art
then wtf is taking him so long? scott makes all his own art lol
I hope tobyfag is here, maybe brutal honesty will wake him up and get his shit together.
>then wtf is taking him so long?
making a name and connections in the industry?
dude is literally hanging out with big names like sakurai and having his characters appear in smash.
making a name and connections in the industry for rpgmaker? lol
there used to be more effort in baits
So he wants to be a celebrity instead of making games nice to know, not that it wasnt obvious when he ran away to Japan the second he could lol.
well his status as a celebrity is gonna be the thing that makes sure he'll still get jobs after deltarune is done.
atleast he's much smarter than you when it comes to this stuff.
undertale suckoffs thinking undertale is complex while slavs make stuff like underrail or a lone frenchman in his 40's surviving on roots makes knights of the chalice 2.
i sure hope toby is sharing some of that cash for you for your excellent blowjob ability
>stuff like underrail or a lone frenchman in his 40's surviving on roots makes knights of the chalice 2.
literal who games that'll be forgotten in a few years
underrail is 20x the game undertale is, and let's be honest, I really don't think toby is smart enough to implement his own version of fallout. it's OK to admit. even the dominions guys are more impressive. not surprised you retards don't really know games though.
>much smarter
Do I even need to say anything.
>one person has made games that are loved by millions and is hanging out with the stars of the industry
>the other is a neet loser who's acting pathetic on Ganker
gee i dunno
>lone fanboy sucking multi milllionaire's dick
>sucks and fucks even though toby himself admits he's slacking
>does it for free
this is you.
Wow alright now I feel bad.
Toby could make it because he was already know for making Homestuck music. Andrew Hussie walked so that Toby could fly.
>andrew hussie made a webcomic so toby could rip it all off
>his only relevant meme after undertale is that clown guy that's straight out of homosuck
it's so shameful
And undertale is rpg maker slop, they might be more complex code wise than fnaf games but there are dlsite devs that release erotic rpg maker games that are more complex and content rich than undertale every year
>this retarded meme of undertale being made in rpgmaker
lol undertale is 100 times more complex than any game in rpgmaker
try to atleast get your facts right and see that it's made in gamemaker.
also the conding is pretty impressive since he made an rpg outside of rpgmaker (which is really hard to do)
>undertale is complex
pfft hahahahaha
>it's not rpgmaker it's gamemaker
big difference I see
>if thing happen, do stuff
>else return 0
>if other thing happen, do other stuff
>else return 0
>repeat for 1 million lines
>put all dialogue in a single switch statement
>"playing the game wrong".
Oh yeah I remember that shit that was some intense cringe it put off a lot of streamers.
There are hundreds of games like undertale
There really weren't games like FNAF.
FNAF knows what it is and gives people what they want.
Undertale wants to be something it's not and will never be because it's held back by the intelligence of the writer. Guy thinks he's a lot more clever and wise than he actually is.
>t.retard
undertale has a much better story than the entire fnaf series combined
>homosuck fan
homosexual
>he basically has an audience of millions of player who can wait a whole decade to play the game.
ten years ago maybe. do you think they will still be around in another ten years when deltarune is done? or the third rpgmaker game that takes him 10 years to shit out?
chapter 2 had 50 thousand players playing at the SAME TIME the very first hour it came out.
that's more than any other game you like can do.
if by better you mean pretentious and try hard, but tards like you are easily impressed
still much better than fnaf
>Game focused primarily on story has better story than game where atmosphere and mechanics are the main focus
Holy shit
Undertale was inspired by Earthbound. That's a massive L right there. It loses just for that.
eh i dunno
fnaf didn't seem interesting to me
it was kinda boring.
atleast undertale had engaging gameplay and the story was understandable without needing to watch theory videos on youtube
>Undertale had engaging gameplay
>Walk
>Walk
>Talk to unfunny character
>Walk
>Random encounter
>Doing pacifist route so immediately run
>Walk more
>engaging
undertale was made by one person and the fanbase went crazy over it
fnaf was made by one autistic person that kept making games in rapid succession just to have youtubers speculate or because he was buttblasted people weren't scared enough
>undertale was made by one person
oh yeah, the art was made by that one woman
>art
you mean the pixel shit
Alright, enough autism.
>What's something you like about FNAF?
>What's something you like about Undertale?
For Fnaf, I like Scott's modelling style, and for Undertale, I like Toby's music.
>Scott lost Souldozer's model
Rest in peace, dozer of souls.
>What's something you like about FNAF?
Chica, Mangle, Roxy.
>What's something you like about Undertale?
Toriel, Muffet, Undyne.
undertale was more of a passion project than anything, toby really didn't expect it to blow up and didn't want to milk it like scott did. also deltarune is completely soulless
>there's alternate timeline where undertale is a lot more popular than fnaf
>in that timeline undertale gets it's own movie
>our universe lost the coin toss to see CGI toriel's fat goat tits and muffet's tight ass on the big screen
FUCK
>there's an alternate timeline where andrew hussy never made homestuck
>nobody knows who tobyfox is because he has nothing to rip off
...zamn...
>>in that timeline undertale gets it's own movie
I'm glad to be in this timeline.
You assume the movie would have had big goat tits and any focus on a child's ass.
This post made me realize that our universe isn't so bad after all. After all, it could've been a lot worse
fnaf - normal natural creepypasta-era creepypasta
Undertale - Tumblr forced pseudotranny core
The origin story of how FNAF ended up being made is pretty illustrative of why it is so much more successful than many other indie games. He only made the game because he listened to his critics (Jim Sterling) who said that his games were creepy looking.
Undertale is still better and more memorable than all of those combined.
I like Roxanne, I really do, but when are we going to get Glam-rock Moxie (Female Mangle/ Funtime Foxy)?
Undertale was a passion project that Toby created while he was still willing to look retarded and make mistakes and include stupid jokes that were only for him and his cringeass Homestuck friends. Deltarune has more polish but it's so fucking boring in comparison.
nice swastika
undertale and delta rune are on their way out anyway, the same SJWs toby pandered to are turning on him for being a successful white straight male, so no matter how much he panders he's either going to get crucified or troon out
>the same SJWs toby pandered to
You keep saying this, but historically it's not going to be true
it will be true, especially as the series keeps dragging on and fond memories of the series fades. If you're keeping an ear on the ground in the fandom, which I don't blame you for not doing, you can feel rumbling already. These people hate anything successful
>I will retroactively decide the game is pandering to people Toby explicitly said it wasn't
No Retard
$400 fine for Retard
not saying so either way is pandering, pandering because you're scared of what people will do if you say no is still pandering
I will not pay your fine
>not saying so either way is pandering
He explicitly said no.
Hell that interview I posted ends with him saying journalists and interviews are annoying if you're too stupid to pick up on that $400 fine
skip does not equal no. And why even do the interview if he finds them retarded?
and he panders in other ways, like pandering to BLM of all things.
I always found it hypocritical that he donated to that organization then moved to Japan directly after or vice versa.
interesting, isn't it? You'd think he'd move to new york with all of that money so he can continue to support BLM.
Wrong, he explicitly said skip. His game has at least one mandatory dyke relationship that you have to do to get the best ending. Saying that he refused to pander is a lie
>pandering to retards only gets you burned in the end
he got snas skeltal in smash though!!! take that, haters!
Scott used the power of jesus, weaponized autism, and furries
undertale panders to the funko pop collecting,millenial manchild whom is either a cuckold or a troon. FNAF appeals to the zoomers who is raised on social media and youtube and have near zero attention span.
zoomer market is bigger than the cuck/troon market ,specially now that millenials are getting into their 30s. The cucks have to raise their wife child and troons are killing themselves.
Also Scott went full Stephen King and released a bunch of entries in a few years while undertale had one sequel.
>Also Scott went full Stephen King
>not R. L. Stine
>Stine
stopped reading right there
yeah
me too
Yes?
because toby spends too much time fucking around with jpop nippons instead of working on his game,
I associate FNAF with autistic children, I associate Undertale with autistic women in their 30s
I associate undertale with honest to god pedophiles and terminally online tumblr troons more than woman, spot on with FNAF though but somehow autistic kids having a lasting obsession with FNAF feels more reasonable than the alternative considering it was a one and done thing
Anons help. I'm on night 4 and I'm too much of a fucking pussy to start it. I'm afraid somethings gonna happen during the ghost searching segment before the night and I need some motivation
His logo is literally a swastika. What did Scott mean by this?
Sir, I think your Swastika has Down's syndrome
No, its just disguised as a man running
Andrew, shouldn't you be working on Psycholonials^2 right now?
fnaf sucks dick now though
>Vriska
This is ARADIA'S theme, you fuckheads!
I know the context of Earthbound Halloween, Homestuck, and Undertale, but what the fuck happening in the other one?
Mother: Cognitive Dissonance
A romhack Toby had nothing to do with, but used their own version of Megalovania (oh sorry, I meant MeGaLoVaNiA) for some reason.
That's NALT-GIYGAS. Basically it's Giegue combined with Ninten, Ana, Loid and Teddy due to some sort of time paradox.
Undertale is quality over quantity
Fnaf is quantity over quality
Furry robots arent scary
Goat milf mommy hot
I was impressed that they chose to make the real-life animatronic puppets for the movie instead of using for CGI, even though that would have been so much easier. I wasn't surprised to learn that the effects were handled by the Jim Henson Creature Workshop, given their remarkable craftsmanship. I was particularly fond of their work on the Dark Crystal show which deserved more seasons fuck you Netflix. Practical effects of this kind are always cool to see, and it's a shame to see such a skillful art form gradually fading away. So it's always nice to see it given the time of day.
Well, they did use CGI for one shot.
bem, FNAF não é melhor que Undertale, e Undertale não é melhor que FNAF. Ambos os jogos superam milhares em suas areas, mas comparar os dois é burrice. só vamos dizer que ambos são demonstrações de inovação e perfeição em suas areas
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I'm impressed by the sheer volume of stuff the nips put out for Undertale. I stopped collecting several years ago, but I still have like 60 doujins and several remix albums, and that barely even scratches the surface.
Just look at this, youve never seen a more soulful dev
FNAF newfag here, which animatronic is the most sexo?
it's toy chica. i'm sure scott made her hot on purpose. don't know why
Gotta make sure the boys stay straight.
>why is a series that pumps out two games a year more talked about than the one that only has two in under ten years