Good enough to carry a game 1vs5 if uncountered. Kind of a shitter if countered. It's a "pick late in the draft" hero. Right now CK is the better illusion carry
Elaborate. I don't care about Dota 2 anymore but I'm always glad to hear about Riot's failings.
>Worst balance of all time in LoL's history >Every new hero is either broken or dogshit >Game has gotten ridiculously politically correct over the years from censorship of females, making every character LGBT, no more coomer skins, etc >Lore is fucking dead with retcons, millenial writing, and Sentinels of Light pretty much fucking over the entire lore >Same characters you see every fucking match and no variety
It's all awful.
from memory: >Design even more soulless than before, they blatantly admit to making balance decisions and design new characters around manipulating their idiot playerbase into doing what they want (for example, nerfing the already-terrible Samira so people would stop banning her, and making a second Yasuo to essentially brute-force Yasuo banners into being unable to ban him twice and drive down the banrate of both the original and the clone) >Similarly, buffing support at the expense of other roles specifically to keep queue times down, mages who become too shit to be played outside of support are not buffed because even if their actual playerbase got screwed Riot only cares that now queue times are lower >Fired all the writers who made the characters people actually like (the 2014-2017 golden age) and replaced them with homosexual pigs like Michael Luo >Design disasters back to back to back, Yuumi, K'Sante (same dev lol, or insanely boring instantly-forgotten jokes like Gwen, Nilah, and Naafiri >Monetization raped repeatedly, every battle pass becomes grindier than the last when you used to be able to easily complete it by casually ARAM spamming >Game blatantly being reduced in scale (minimum viable product) to be a cash cow that pays for Riot's diversification of portfolio (voiceovers DRASTICALLY cut down when they used to be 30m long, insanely cheap season cinematic this year, etc) >Created a new ping system to improve communication, then gutted it because people were using it to flame each other then mocked the playerbase who said they wanted their communication tools back >Fucking communication in other ways, like insta-chat-banning and hiding the offending message of people who use no-no language, making post-game chat opt in rather than opt out
Really, the issue here I think is that LoL's core gameplay is fucking terrible, and despite the fact that the LoL playerbase is too retarded to realize it, their issue is that they're sick of it after 10 years.
Written by a limpwristed fucking freak of a virtue-signalling "man". He's in the bottom right of that picture.
He also wrote Zeri, a character who has a non-sequitur reference to a real life anti-Filipino hate crime because Mr. Luo has zero creative integrity guess what race perpetrated that crime lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
wow that's embarrassing.
I played LoL from 2010-11 and even went to the proto worlds or whatever it's called as a spectator.
I was so turned off after meeting pendragon and other riot employees that I switched to dota and never looked back. >any of these booths sell beer? >O-M-G can you imagine if there was alcohol on the premises, what a disaster *gigglesquees*
yea that guys a billionaire, cool.
to see them years later hire ghostcrawler, literally one of my most despised nemesis growing up, and touting it as if it was something to be proud of was wretched.
can see they're still picking the best of the best lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
All the devs at Riot are petty, like how one got pissed off at the eceleb XQC all because he said he thinks DOTA 2 is a better game and the employee started saying LoL has more players/viewers as a reason to why LoL is better, or how you can get banned for pinging because some guy did it to an employee at Riot and he got pissed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
meanwhile in dota you can spam voicelines during the grand finals of a million dollar tournament and nobody bats an eye, it's great. letting people piss and moan and cry about "MUH TOXICITY" in online multiplayer games was a mistake
>Design disasters back to back to back, Yuumi, K'Sante (same dev lol, or insanely boring instantly-forgotten jokes like Gwen, Nilah, and Naafiri
How to tell you don't even play the game
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17tmog6/semifinals_between_t1_and_jdg_peaked_at_over_4/
my god you people are so utterly retarded its ridiculous
Truth doesn't matter. If DoTa prizepool and viewership is low its because Tencent DDOSed people, if LoL viewership is high its because Tencent botted it
>muh numbers >muh viewrship
Here's your daily reminder that esports/streamer/twitch culture killed video games as you knew it. And that every time someone tries to tell you a game is good because it has a lot of people watching it you should do nothing but point and laugh.
Yknow I haven't followed either one for a while but now that i'm reading this thread I realize that nothing lol related has come across my screen in a while. I knew DOTA was kinda down from the latest TI but still.
They're all in on china now. They gave up on pushing it in america/europe. They're even using the term "EMEA" (europe, middle east, africa) instead of europe now because they're involved in part of that push to normalize all the refugees displaced from the MENA region due to Israel's wars being pushed into europe.
Riot is pure evil.
Dota had an even more successful TI this year, it just had a low price pool because they didnt release hats for the compendium and literally no one bought it.
And it still somehow had the biggest prizepool in gaming lol
>bro the pro scene prize pool has gone down so one of the most popular PC games in the world just isn't now!
I don't even say this shit about league who's US pro scene is actually just dead
In reality nobody cared about the pro scene.
In 2020 they had a battlepass, even though it was announced months prior that TI is cancelled- highest number of players the game has ever seen.
wind ranger ulti made it that once you ulti the real one, even if he vanished and cloned, the ulti would target the real one. sometimes it doesn't work, and sometimes just auto attack the ground and it will target the unit you ulti. unless patched
if you have the option to not fight his illusions, never fight the illusions. if you have to fight his illusions you have to pop some or all cds. and aoe
you want aoe, and focus the real one avoiding his illusions.
Im having most fun in a while, things were really getting stale and new map and objectives shook things up
But the TI patch has been love for too long and now every game has the same cancer picks so its getting boring again, but thankfully new latch should literally drop any minute now
It's pretty surprising seething LoL players never even try to play Smite
The camera angle is not that big an issue to deal with and mechanically it's the closest living MOBA to LoL. These days, I actually think it's the better game.
>These days, I actually think it's the better game
It's definitely more fun than LoL, especially because of all the different game modes.
Conquest is fucked for Warrior/Solo players as Mages like Hades just deletes the entire point of the role that you're better off becoming a second Jungler and roaming as any Mage in the solo lane if you're a Warrior means you already lost.
Ive been a DOTARDfor like 20 years noe, but smite truly is the only other moba worth playing. Or at least it was, 7-8 years ago, I was stuck only with a playstation 4 for whole summer and they just released it on consoles so I really got into it. Some gods are really fucking fun to play and id like too see them in dota(kinda happened with dawnbreaker which basically has Thor's spells+ Athena ultimate)
Decided to download it on PC recent and check it out and the game looks way different than what i remember, unfortunately
I have. Its absolute garbage. Its baffling to me how theres always someone spouting how good that utter blizzslop is, despite being even more braindead to play than lol, yet the game is completely dead for some reason
Finish the game quickly. Take out Radianse or Orchid or don't buy items for his HC and finish before he can buy his items
If the game is going to be extended because your hero needs 6 items then opt for Mjolnir or BF.
If you are support... idk.
hopes
snap massive buff
hood buff
another bh buff yes i know he will be broken but i just need him very good for one patch
viper buff
marci buff and aba buff
nerfs to all meta heroes
expect grim
fears
no nerf to sb
nerfing grim
buffing PL
>Hopes
Reduce str gain
Give Heart a cooldown again
Buff Willow
KILL Spirit Breaker I never want to see that cuntfaced cow again >Fears
None of the above happening
>Hopes
Mid sized patch with buffs and nerfes, maybe skins and more QoL stuff >Fears
Absolutely nothing, hope last TI wasn't saying goodbye to the game from Valve
why would be? it was the most work theyve put in a TI in years, production wise
they'll just return next year to the usual hats battlepass because they dont hate money, that experiment was retarded
Lion on the enemy team >consistently manages to line up 2-3 man stuns >perfect positioning every fight with a well times blink dagger purchase >ensures his enemy laners have zero mana in lane >softens up targets with finger knowing that a kill after 3 seconds still awards finger +damage and gold on the carry getting the kill is more important >perfect ward placement, his team always knows where you are at all times
Lion on my team >lol what are wards >never leves hex >feeds whatever lane he starts off in, goes to jungle at 4 minutes >saves finger for the ks, simply will not use it under any circumstances unless he can get the kill >rushes aghs, never has mana for any other spells in teamfights because he ults the creepwave
I hate him too anon
>dominate early and midgame >enemy team has 2 kills >push to their base >fortification >destroy the tower >fortification >enemy team respawns in this time and 1 person with an 8 kill streak dies >forced to b >kill enemy team again, this time it's noticeably more difficult >push to rax >fortification >enemy team respawns >kill them >enemy team buys back >our creep wave is now on the other side of the map >forced to b >another person gets caught >enemy team now was more gold than us >lose next teamfight >enemy team pushes through 3 towers and takes rax >no fort for some reason >lose
To this day I have no fucking clue how the creep waves work.
Like suddenly their will be the biggest wave ever with 3 catapults destroying your T2 before you even realize it.
>Me and my friends are all Herald-Guardian >I understand the quality of our DotA games would be a lot more fun if we all get better >No one can be assed to spend all that time getting better so we repeat the cycle of getting the urge to play the game and getting stomped then remembering why we don't play
That's the thing with mobas, it never gets better. People are always under the impression that once they reach some specific rank the game will suddenly become more fun, but if anything the higher level players are more likely to be miserable for wasting all their time tryharding in these games designed to suck away your life.
It's just a pure failure of the matchmaking.
90% of games are stomps, when it should be the exact opposite.
Either matchmaking is rigged, is badly programmed, or the game is so poorly designed that even when matchmaking is working fairly it has to result in one sided stomps
if you think "90%" of games are stomps then thats a red flag that you have no clue how to play from behind or even at a slight disadvantage. unironically git gud
is it common knowledge how pendragon even got to making and marketing LoL in the first place? he and his group have always been worthless homosexuals. DISGUSTS me that they got rich off of this at all.
new Pugna can shit on him I know, when you have the shard so off ward you can ult all enemies in range, the ult insta deletes illusions and is on a 3 second cooldown.
Lion with shard is similar with mana drain to insta delete illusions, although his shard has a target limit.
Is turbo fun/balanced? I haven't played dota in like five years and honestly if i come back i just can't justify dedicating 40 minutes to an hour to a single match anymore. I think i'd just play turbo and fuck around
>Is turbo fun/balanced
Yes/obscenely no
You will lose in ten minutes because it doubles farm values as well. So dying early in lane means walking back at level 2 to a now level 6 asshole who hit every last hit and has a radiance already
Used to be one, but I move on to Warlock. After they change Upheaval and the agh shard, I become addicted to making the other team seethe, especially against melee carry
What? Hes a great support. Tanky stunner that can harass and fuck with enemy heroes in lane. Scales well with items so hes not just a walking stun/ult like lion after 20 minutes
Is there a position Ogre wouldn't do well in? He's tanky and hits hard with a good fast attack animation, has punchy spells with lockdown, a strong buff for his team or (let's be real it's an and) himself, gets levels of effectiveness out of items that all other heroes could only dream of, and you even get to completely ignore an entire stat when building him.
Man i used to pick him all the fucking time back when his ultimate made him magic immune when you casted it
I feel like that was the last time he had such an oppressive presence in games, until now that is
>permabashes and displaces you at any single stage of the game >LITERALLY unstunnable and unkillable with 9432412032 status resistance
yeah bro, tots not OP
yep dont forget him being able to one shot any creep wave pressure every lane on the map with a 6-8 second cooldown timer
dont forget the map itself getting bigger is a massive buff to someone like SB
pretty much can permabach you
extremely fast only a few characters can catch him
SB really has no weakness
>SB really has no weakness
he has a dogshit lanning phase, and especially now that everyone spams him as 3, its mostly free lane for your carry if hes against him
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No he doesn't wtf are you on about. His bash hurts and hes a threat on the whole map and in his lane from level 2 onwards. He doesnt even need last hits just levels, hes tanky enough that he can just soak xp from a distance or go in for the occasion last hit and soak some harass
Hes one of the best laners in the game and comes almost completely online at level fucking 6
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
his weakness used to be that he initiates with his face and if his target isnt dead after charge ult combo he has to pray for bashes with his pretty abysmal BAT. now he presses le status resist button and runs away because he's impossible to lockdown
Map is big so rotations are harder but global heroes like Spec/SB/NP don't give a fuck and just snowball off easy kills. Literally any of those heroes + 1 can secure a kill before the enemy can respond. God fucking forbid you're up against a combination of them.
>pick oracle >go mid >watch everyone freak about a support hero going mid >everyone expects me to go full support. >proceed to carry game
after playing as him properly for the first time in the all-hero challenge, he is now my favourite.
most people don't know how to compete against his frequent high damage nukes. never go full support.
Jugg. Build maelstrom and use the active on yourself so you shock his illusions when they hit you
Aghs doom and run at him.
Earthshaker is an obvious one too. Lina also. Keep in mind most pl pickers (most carries in general) are allergic to building bkb so take advantage of that
he's uncounterable unless you have Earthshaker on your team >but *insert retarded idea here*
eventually he kills the framerate of all the SEA ladyboys on your team that have potato PCs and he wins anyway
I'm not sure why LoL is stereotyped as a hypermobile MOBA when DOTA has Storm and Ember Spirit that can literally chase and kill you halfway across the map.
>playing carry >pos 4 enemy sniper in my lane >total meme pick, we go this >somehow he goes unchecked and has a moon shard at 9 minutes >he doesnt do much damage but is able to keep anyone in perma headshot stunlock >hes getting assassinate kills left and right with aghs >was easily the biggest factor for the enemy team winning because "lol hes just a support we can just ignore him"
God i was so fucking mad
What are your instant bans?
No matter what i ban witch doctor, slardar or spirit breaker now. I dont care who the enemy team picks i simly do not want to fucking play with one of those cancerous heroes in my games
I sometimes don't even use my ban but in Turbo I will ban Arc Warden every fucking game because that nagger is unstoppable once he gets on a roll. The game essentially is on a timer the second he gets midas.
of course SB CK the grim should be banned every game seriously he is probably the best support in the game the fact valve made his ulti pierce bkb on top of his shard then your E ink swell you can controll when you explode it man grim is soooo good and of course spec since
any 2v2 3vs3 or 4vs4 turns into a disadvantage to your team and he pretty much can hit the backline for free
ps people stop banning daz most people really cant play him unless you are an immortal level player im serious i havent seen a good dazzle and topson pretty much ruined daz for good
anyone crying about turnrate better fucking hate dark souls games or they're hyprocrites, weighted attacks and animations are the exact same concept as turn rate and attacks in dota
The game turned to shit after 7.00
It really is a shame that there are people that never experienced 6.xx dota 2 at its peak popularity.
Now it's just another game on life support development
7.00 was objectively an awful patch and caused the decline of Dota, just look at steam charts.
So for you just picking Str heroes and buying heart + blademail on everyone and having a bristleback that for some reason can one shot you is Dota at its best.
>homosexualback
Kek i love cocky bristles in lane that think they're unkillabe terminators only to get absolutely rocked by the first silver edge that comes online
2003: you can mod in any kind of shit into a game. For example, you could change your pistol for a banana in counter strike, or make the characters naked women
2023: you must pay valve $30 so your hero's hat emits more particles
I fucking hate this hero. I hate playing him, I hate having him on my team and I hate playing against him. >press R to become the strongest unit on the map but too bad you're fucking useless when it runs out and so is your team because they have to play around your ult
Who thought this was a good idea
Most heroes are still useful without their ultimates, Sven is garbage because his ultimate is the entire hero. It's not even an instant game winning long CD ult that other ult oriented heroes like Enigma have, it's like if Terror blade didn't have illusions. He simply gets outcarried by every real carry in the game and running him as a 3 just takes space from 1 and 2 in order to not do much at all.
nah he's still tanky and fast as fuck and once you got items you do damage even without ult, but it doesnt matter because he farms like a motherfucker and beats the other carry by having 10k more networth, while having a delete button in every teamfight
If he hasn't changed much since early this year, basically what
Not an expert, but from what I know he's good but falls off in the late game, so you want to end the game before the enemy cores steamroll you.
says. Great early to mid game dominance that you must capitalize on by feeding a late game hero all your kills. Even decked out in items you will struggle to take on a right-clicker with bkb.
That sounds kinda sad. I mostly just have fond memories of being fucking invincible lategame and doing unholy amounts of damage with the chakram as long as I coule stay fed with mana.
I hate modern Dota because : >chat is heavily moderated, you can get muted DURING a game now >you're also forbidden from pinging >the best cosmetics are still forever lost in past battlepasses >no more sideshops >capped movement speed is absolutely retarded >they ruined zeus >they ruined windranger >they ruined techies >dedicated TP slot
fuck fuck fuck
seething schizo zoomer
been playing since 5.84
you are a clueless mongoloid
and dota always had a move speed limit, until they removed id and everything was retarded
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nice larping retard
now be a good boy and have a nice day before you turn 18 you retarded fuck we don't need more parasites like you living off neetbucks
have a nice day it's not that hard
>>the best cosmetics are still forever lost in past battlepasses
The primary way to lose future whales, why start collecting when you can never collect 'em all?
Can I still do rat stuff as nature's prophet? I'm kind of a shitter and haven't played since the Medusa buff. She counters all my favorite heroes except LS.
for some reason I do well vs him as weaver. I dont know why weaver would 'counter' him in any way shape or form. Maybe its just dumb luck and I'm associating some wins where I happened to have better teammates with me playing this character, or maybe theres just something about hitting him hard with minus armor and ganking him that shuts him down early? I dont know.
nigbick is the same annoying homosexual support who gets picked by naggers who think pressing r at the right time and throwing zero cast point animation spells back at the enemy is some kind of high skill play
pa recently got a very well deserved nerf because being the hardest late game carry who can turn invisible/untargetable with a better ninja gear and also one shot ac wearing cores was a tad broken (the nerf didn't go far enough). like rubick, is also played by naggers
>Its a pos5 leaving you alone to roam (and failing) and never comes back at min4 >get harrassed and forced to jungle, giving them a free tower
I want the the most agonizing misfortune to pos5 players that does this shit. If you do this shit, fucking stop and support yoyr fucking carry.
Why do you have to wait 70 fuckings seconds before respawn in this game? Why do CCs / stuns last for 15 seconds? That's why everybody will play League and not Dota
Respawn timer increases the longer the game goes on and the higher level your hero is, in other words it's a mechanic so that the game can actually fucking end at some point. Stuns last 15 seconds because the enemy team is coordinating their shit on someone they deem a threat and being rewarded with an extended period of lockdown.
Either a minor nuisance vs a lineup that can jump on top of him reliably or a time bomb that 1v5s the map if given a little bit of breathing room to farm with midas. There's no in between with arc
Same as it ever was then. I read that his clone gets a damage debuff when far away from the main Arc, has this affected his ability to rat too severely?
Yeah, level 25 talent. It's either that or the extra duration. Honestly I think the extra duration is still better, you can have almost 100% uptime on your clone.
>from the moment arc warden is picked, a kind of "count down" will begin. maybe 10 minutes or so after first blood, maybe 15 will pass, and you're farming a creep wave, or stacking a jungle camp or whatever it is you're doing. without a worry in the world. when suddenly you'll hear the sound of a spark wraith behind you. but before you can even turn around - POP. teamwipe..
cheer up beautiful dotard. this is where you get to make it right by always fucking banning arc every game
Will valve even bother with a compendium next year? Seems unlikely. Crazy how that's the only thing they actually put effort into besides a few patches a year and it makes them money, yet they don't even feel it's worthwhile to bother
>zoomers have actually begun thinking that a game needs a complexity level of chess or shogi in order to be LE GOOD, meanwhile they'd fail miserably at either game
you will get used to it and then you will begin to fucking love it i started 2months ago at 1.5k mmr and im addicted af at 3.1k mmr right now the challenge at the start what got me going
carry dust
When did PL get an invis?
His new aghanim shard. It's actually just old ability reworked into his ulti, Juxtapose.
>PL has a free blink, lets give him a cheap invis as well
For what purpose.
retard
nagger.
what the fuck are you talking about?
Disregard I thought doppelganger was a targeted mobility tool.
He used to have an invis, newfag. Doppelwalk or whatever the fuck.
Is he "Cancer" Lancer again?
Good enough to carry a game 1vs5 if uncountered. Kind of a shitter if countered. It's a "pick late in the draft" hero. Right now CK is the better illusion carry
he's so back
gleiphnir, dust, dazzle shard, shiva, crimson, etc.
use your fucking brain you 1k shitter
that's literally every hard carry
>that's literally every hard carry
You can firstpick heroes like Muerta, Spectre, Chaos Knight and so on.
Considering he can dominate an entire game, I'd say yes.
ward his jungle
There's a large fucking jungle now
Back in my day earthshaker. I haven't played in like 5+ years so everything is probably different.
Same way you deal with Naga. Use any form of Crowd Control you have and they panic unless you fed them with BKB and other carry items.
Pick leshrac
battlefury or dazzle shard
I thought dota was dead now since pros torpedo'd their own prize pool by bitching about valve's compendium split.
LoL killed itself and there's been an exodus.
>LoL killed itself
Did people finally wise up to the shit balance and bugs or did rito do something stupid again?
>Worst balance of all time in LoL's history
>Every new hero is either broken or dogshit
>Game has gotten ridiculously politically correct over the years from censorship of females, making every character LGBT, no more coomer skins, etc
>Lore is fucking dead with retcons, millenial writing, and Sentinels of Light pretty much fucking over the entire lore
>Same characters you see every fucking match and no variety
It's all awful.
Elaborate. I don't care about Dota 2 anymore but I'm always glad to hear about Riot's failings.
from memory:
>Design even more soulless than before, they blatantly admit to making balance decisions and design new characters around manipulating their idiot playerbase into doing what they want (for example, nerfing the already-terrible Samira so people would stop banning her, and making a second Yasuo to essentially brute-force Yasuo banners into being unable to ban him twice and drive down the banrate of both the original and the clone)
>Similarly, buffing support at the expense of other roles specifically to keep queue times down, mages who become too shit to be played outside of support are not buffed because even if their actual playerbase got screwed Riot only cares that now queue times are lower
>Fired all the writers who made the characters people actually like (the 2014-2017 golden age) and replaced them with homosexual pigs like Michael Luo
>Design disasters back to back to back, Yuumi, K'Sante (same dev lol, or insanely boring instantly-forgotten jokes like Gwen, Nilah, and Naafiri
>Monetization raped repeatedly, every battle pass becomes grindier than the last when you used to be able to easily complete it by casually ARAM spamming
>Game blatantly being reduced in scale (minimum viable product) to be a cash cow that pays for Riot's diversification of portfolio (voiceovers DRASTICALLY cut down when they used to be 30m long, insanely cheap season cinematic this year, etc)
>Created a new ping system to improve communication, then gutted it because people were using it to flame each other then mocked the playerbase who said they wanted their communication tools back
>Fucking communication in other ways, like insta-chat-banning and hiding the offending message of people who use no-no language, making post-game chat opt in rather than opt out
Really, the issue here I think is that LoL's core gameplay is fucking terrible, and despite the fact that the LoL playerbase is too retarded to realize it, their issue is that they're sick of it after 10 years.
>Michael Luo
forgot image
women were a mistake
Written by a limpwristed fucking freak of a virtue-signalling "man". He's in the bottom right of that picture.
He also wrote Zeri, a character who has a non-sequitur reference to a real life anti-Filipino hate crime because Mr. Luo has zero creative integrity
guess what race perpetrated that crime lol
wow that's embarrassing.
I played LoL from 2010-11 and even went to the proto worlds or whatever it's called as a spectator.
I was so turned off after meeting pendragon and other riot employees that I switched to dota and never looked back.
>any of these booths sell beer?
>O-M-G can you imagine if there was alcohol on the premises, what a disaster *gigglesquees*
yea that guys a billionaire, cool.
to see them years later hire ghostcrawler, literally one of my most despised nemesis growing up, and touting it as if it was something to be proud of was wretched.
can see they're still picking the best of the best lmao
All the devs at Riot are petty, like how one got pissed off at the eceleb XQC all because he said he thinks DOTA 2 is a better game and the employee started saying LoL has more players/viewers as a reason to why LoL is better, or how you can get banned for pinging because some guy did it to an employee at Riot and he got pissed.
meanwhile in dota you can spam voicelines during the grand finals of a million dollar tournament and nobody bats an eye, it's great. letting people piss and moan and cry about "MUH TOXICITY" in online multiplayer games was a mistake
>used new system to flame each other
riot really needs to learn from valve, and start selling ways to flame other players or tilt enemies.
>Design disasters back to back to back, Yuumi, K'Sante (same dev lol, or insanely boring instantly-forgotten jokes like Gwen, Nilah, and Naafiri
How to tell you don't even play the game
>2014-2017 golden age
what are you on about?
>record numbers for both viewership and prize
>LoL killed itself
?
numbers for both viewership and prize
>Expecting me to believe this
you can cope and deny reality all you want, not my problem 🙂
>Still no proof
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17tmog6/semifinals_between_t1_and_jdg_peaked_at_over_4/
my god you people are so utterly retarded its ridiculous
Truth doesn't matter. If DoTa prizepool and viewership is low its because Tencent DDOSed people, if LoL viewership is high its because Tencent botted it
>muh numbers
>muh viewrship
Here's your daily reminder that esports/streamer/twitch culture killed video games as you knew it. And that every time someone tries to tell you a game is good because it has a lot of people watching it you should do nothing but point and laugh.
Yknow I haven't followed either one for a while but now that i'm reading this thread I realize that nothing lol related has come across my screen in a while. I knew DOTA was kinda down from the latest TI but still.
They're all in on china now. They gave up on pushing it in america/europe. They're even using the term "EMEA" (europe, middle east, africa) instead of europe now because they're involved in part of that push to normalize all the refugees displaced from the MENA region due to Israel's wars being pushed into europe.
Riot is pure evil.
>EMEA"
Most esports do that these days.
Not at all, no
First time im hearing about this term actually and ive been watching dota and cs for decade and a half
Dota had an even more successful TI this year, it just had a low price pool because they didnt release hats for the compendium and literally no one bought it.
And it still somehow had the biggest prizepool in gaming lol
>literally one of the most popular games in the world
>dead
This place is utterly delusional
>bro the pro scene prize pool has gone down so one of the most popular PC games in the world just isn't now!
I don't even say this shit about league who's US pro scene is actually just dead
In reality nobody cared about the pro scene.
In 2020 they had a battlepass, even though it was announced months prior that TI is cancelled- highest number of players the game has ever seen.
Yeah, everyone was stuck inside retard, a ton of games recorded their highest playercount during the coof
Every game had their highest player counts ever during the chinkflu. That's not a dota thing
wind ranger ulti made it that once you ulti the real one, even if he vanished and cloned, the ulti would target the real one. sometimes it doesn't work, and sometimes just auto attack the ground and it will target the unit you ulti. unless patched
if you have the option to not fight his illusions, never fight the illusions. if you have to fight his illusions you have to pop some or all cds. and aoe
you want aoe, and focus the real one avoiding his illusions.
ffs i have't touched this for 5 years or so...should i play it again?
New patch really shook things up. Bigger map, more ways to play, everyone is fucking OP
is it fun?
Im having most fun in a while, things were really getting stale and new map and objectives shook things up
But the TI patch has been love for too long and now every game has the same cancer picks so its getting boring again, but thankfully new latch should literally drop any minute now
It's pretty surprising seething LoL players never even try to play Smite
The camera angle is not that big an issue to deal with and mechanically it's the closest living MOBA to LoL. These days, I actually think it's the better game.
>These days, I actually think it's the better game
It's definitely more fun than LoL, especially because of all the different game modes.
Conquest is fucked for Warrior/Solo players as Mages like Hades just deletes the entire point of the role that you're better off becoming a second Jungler and roaming as any Mage in the solo lane if you're a Warrior means you already lost.
Ive been a DOTARDfor like 20 years noe, but smite truly is the only other moba worth playing. Or at least it was, 7-8 years ago, I was stuck only with a playstation 4 for whole summer and they just released it on consoles so I really got into it. Some gods are really fucking fun to play and id like too see them in dota(kinda happened with dawnbreaker which basically has Thor's spells+ Athena ultimate)
Decided to download it on PC recent and check it out and the game looks way different than what i remember, unfortunately
>Truly is the only other moba worth playing
You need to play Heroes of the Storm. A shame it's dead.
I have. Its absolute garbage. Its baffling to me how theres always someone spouting how good that utter blizzslop is, despite being even more braindead to play than lol, yet the game is completely dead for some reason
>not liking hots
could not imagine having taste this shit. Do you even like video games?
blizzslop consoomers seek help. hots was shit
Its absolute garbage participation trophy game and its dead for a good reason.
hots was a decent party game. Had some hot chicks too, what a shame. If it ends up on steam it'll probably get a second wind.
Blade Mail
Finish the game quickly. Take out Radianse or Orchid or don't buy items for his HC and finish before he can buy his items
If the game is going to be extended because your hero needs 6 items then opt for Mjolnir or BF.
If you are support... idk.
ctrl + f "orchid"
1 of 1
>Orchid
based mmr improver
kino https://youtu.be/2oueGRXd6k4?si=2Nx49OIDpSr9Yr6i
>tfw stopped watching after TI6
miss those days sometimes, same goes for SC2 WoL and summer of taeja
hopes and fears for the post-TI patch lads?
hopes
snap massive buff
hood buff
another bh buff yes i know he will be broken but i just need him very good for one patch
viper buff
marci buff and aba buff
nerfs to all meta heroes
expect grim
fears
no nerf to sb
nerfing grim
buffing PL
Delete necro and sb, thanks
>buffing pl
fuck off
MAKE MY homosexual FUCKING HERO USEFUL AGAIN
PUCK TOO
Based fellow Storm Spirit enjoyer. Best character in the game no matter what.
Nerf STR heroes, why does Wk get a guaranteed 300% dmg crit? thats barely lower than PA's level 2 ultimate which is rng
make Agi great again
hopes
anything that reverse some of the power creep over the past few years
fears
more of the same
>Hopes
Reduce str gain
Give Heart a cooldown again
Buff Willow
KILL Spirit Breaker I never want to see that cuntfaced cow again
>Fears
None of the above happening
>Buff Willow
She's one of the best supports in the game right now. Fuck off
People only think that because they're bandwagoning homosexuals
I, on the other hand, love my awful wife Mireska
>he play Willow support
pos4 willow is bretty good
but willow HC is perfect. Only two seconds of vulnerability
>tried to play DB carry before tournaments
>"RRRREEEEEE SHIT PICK REPORT"
>tried to play willow carry before int
>"RRRREEEEEE SHIT PICK REPORT"
Aghs willow is niche pick
buff willow for what shes already really good
most fun i had with dota since i started to play the game in 2012
Based Willowenjoyer but I will now play bara just because you don't like him.
Once I finish re-installing.
Willow doesn't need buffs, she needs sluttier item sets
delete am. a fucking waste of space
>Hopes
Mid sized patch with buffs and nerfes, maybe skins and more QoL stuff
>Fears
Absolutely nothing, hope last TI wasn't saying goodbye to the game from Valve
why would be? it was the most work theyve put in a TI in years, production wise
they'll just return next year to the usual hats battlepass because they dont hate money, that experiment was retarded
Pick Dazzle
I hate this homosexual
??? He's unironically the most honest hero in the game.
FINGERED.com
ive got a power grip
did you build dagon on him i forget
The furries in this game suck.
have a nice day
>felt the rage of a mage
isn't he easily countered?
lion fucking sucks dude, buy a bkb
Lion on the enemy team
>consistently manages to line up 2-3 man stuns
>perfect positioning every fight with a well times blink dagger purchase
>ensures his enemy laners have zero mana in lane
>softens up targets with finger knowing that a kill after 3 seconds still awards finger +damage and gold on the carry getting the kill is more important
>perfect ward placement, his team always knows where you are at all times
Lion on my team
>lol what are wards
>never leves hex
>feeds whatever lane he starts off in, goes to jungle at 4 minutes
>saves finger for the ks, simply will not use it under any circumstances unless he can get the kill
>rushes aghs, never has mana for any other spells in teamfights because he ults the creepwave
I hate him too anon
> Stacks 10 creeps
> FoD's them all
> Lion: I am the carry now!
Ohhh, he-he-heh-he-he-he-heh.
ECHO SLAM
My husband Rubick
Just pick sb lmao
Its how you win against anything this patch anyway
>Just pick the hero that's banned every game lmao
That means that either necro or muerta most prolly wont be banned so just pick them, they also shit on PL and are a free win
Brewmaster
Split and use storm's Q and it kills every illusion.
>I AM A BEACON OF KNOWLEDGE BLAZING OUT ACROSS AN AFRICAN SEA OF IGNORANCE
He didn't say that.
you pick pugna and win the game before PL can get items
>dominate early and midgame
>enemy team has 2 kills
>push to their base
>fortification
>destroy the tower
>fortification
>enemy team respawns in this time and 1 person with an 8 kill streak dies
>forced to b
>kill enemy team again, this time it's noticeably more difficult
>push to rax
>fortification
>enemy team respawns
>kill them
>enemy team buys back
>our creep wave is now on the other side of the map
>forced to b
>another person gets caught
>enemy team now was more gold than us
>lose next teamfight
>enemy team pushes through 3 towers and takes rax
>no fort for some reason
>lose
Every fucking game
To this day I have no fucking clue how the creep waves work.
Like suddenly their will be the biggest wave ever with 3 catapults destroying your T2 before you even realize it.
what did he mean by this
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/c/c1/Vo_necrolyte_necr_omni_07.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20201017150936
He is a fisherman so you need to offer fish to him so he would fuck off.
ctrl+F beastmaster
>0 result
Ganker is heralds after all
>Me and my friends are all Herald-Guardian
>I understand the quality of our DotA games would be a lot more fun if we all get better
>No one can be assed to spend all that time getting better so we repeat the cycle of getting the urge to play the game and getting stomped then remembering why we don't play
That's the thing with mobas, it never gets better. People are always under the impression that once they reach some specific rank the game will suddenly become more fun, but if anything the higher level players are more likely to be miserable for wasting all their time tryharding in these games designed to suck away your life.
>it never gets better.
no, dota becomes more fun once you're competent at the game
you get the same amount of fun from winning and crushing someone else on the other team in every bracket
It's just a pure failure of the matchmaking.
90% of games are stomps, when it should be the exact opposite.
Either matchmaking is rigged, is badly programmed, or the game is so poorly designed that even when matchmaking is working fairly it has to result in one sided stomps
if you think "90%" of games are stomps then thats a red flag that you have no clue how to play from behind or even at a slight disadvantage. unironically git gud
skill issue
pick this bitch as support
buy dust
love that Hispanic granny so fucking much, its ureal
is it common knowledge how pendragon even got to making and marketing LoL in the first place? he and his group have always been worthless homosexuals. DISGUSTS me that they got rich off of this at all.
didnt he get the boot from lel?
CK and SB are worse.
I have done nothing but pick NP (or muerta if banned) for three days.
new Pugna can shit on him I know, when you have the shard so off ward you can ult all enemies in range, the ult insta deletes illusions and is on a 3 second cooldown.
Lion with shard is similar with mana drain to insta delete illusions, although his shard has a target limit.
if you uninstall your trash forever game, where at best you play with some also depressed friends, you just don't have to deal with him ever
Is turbo fun/balanced? I haven't played dota in like five years and honestly if i come back i just can't justify dedicating 40 minutes to an hour to a single match anymore. I think i'd just play turbo and fuck around
dota will never be balanced
and if it ever is, they'll unbalance it in the next update
>Is turbo fun/balanced
Yes/obscenely no
You will lose in ten minutes because it doubles farm values as well. So dying early in lane means walking back at level 2 to a now level 6 asshole who hit every last hit and has a radiance already
turbo is all i play. stomping is very fun. getting stomped less so, but at least youre not stuck there for 40-70 min.
is leshrac still the realest nigga in this game?
hes dogshit, as he should be
1000% the realest nigga in the game up there with booty hunter
Any fellow Ogre enjoyers here?
Used to be one, but I move on to Warlock. After they change Upheaval and the agh shard, I become addicted to making the other team seethe, especially against melee carry
used to be one but he's unironically an offlaner/carry now and people bitch at you if you play him like a support
What? Hes a great support. Tanky stunner that can harass and fuck with enemy heroes in lane. Scales well with items so hes not just a walking stun/ult like lion after 20 minutes
Is there a position Ogre wouldn't do well in? He's tanky and hits hard with a good fast attack animation, has punchy spells with lockdown, a strong buff for his team or (let's be real it's an and) himself, gets levels of effectiveness out of items that all other heroes could only dream of, and you even get to completely ignore an entire stat when building him.
>MOOOOOOO
the cow that is banned in all games in ranked 90% of the time the cow that strike fear in dota players heart the cow that will be nerfed next patch
SB folks
Man i used to pick him all the fucking time back when his ultimate made him magic immune when you casted it
I feel like that was the last time he had such an oppressive presence in games, until now that is
he's not even that strong
i dunno what pros and high rank homosexuals are on about
>permabashes and displaces you at any single stage of the game
>LITERALLY unstunnable and unkillable with 9432412032 status resistance
yeah bro, tots not OP
yep dont forget him being able to one shot any creep wave pressure every lane on the map with a 6-8 second cooldown timer
dont forget the map itself getting bigger is a massive buff to someone like SB
pretty much can permabach you
extremely fast only a few characters can catch him
SB really has no weakness
>SB really has no weakness
he has a dogshit lanning phase, and especially now that everyone spams him as 3, its mostly free lane for your carry if hes against him
No he doesn't wtf are you on about. His bash hurts and hes a threat on the whole map and in his lane from level 2 onwards. He doesnt even need last hits just levels, hes tanky enough that he can just soak xp from a distance or go in for the occasion last hit and soak some harass
Hes one of the best laners in the game and comes almost completely online at level fucking 6
his weakness used to be that he initiates with his face and if his target isnt dead after charge ult combo he has to pray for bashes with his pretty abysmal BAT. now he presses le status resist button and runs away because he's impossible to lockdown
>permabashes
that's slardar
you are retarded
Map is big so rotations are harder but global heroes like Spec/SB/NP don't give a fuck and just snowball off easy kills. Literally any of those heroes + 1 can secure a kill before the enemy can respond. God fucking forbid you're up against a combination of them.
i love playing as him
>pick oracle
>go mid
>watch everyone freak about a support hero going mid
>everyone expects me to go full support.
>proceed to carry game
after playing as him properly for the first time in the all-hero challenge, he is now my favourite.
most people don't know how to compete against his frequent high damage nukes.
never go full support.
Jugg. Build maelstrom and use the active on yourself so you shock his illusions when they hit you
Aghs doom and run at him.
Earthshaker is an obvious one too. Lina also. Keep in mind most pl pickers (most carries in general) are allergic to building bkb so take advantage of that
>Jugg
man, the mind of the herald never seizes to amaze me
>spin on him before he gets heart
>illusions die
Whatever you say mr crusader
he's uncounterable unless you have Earthshaker on your team
>but *insert retarded idea here*
eventually he kills the framerate of all the SEA ladyboys on your team that have potato PCs and he wins anyway
I'm not sure why LoL is stereotyped as a hypermobile MOBA when DOTA has Storm and Ember Spirit that can literally chase and kill you halfway across the map.
In league it's a given, in Dota it's usually or used to be really the exception
>playing carry
>pos 4 enemy sniper in my lane
>total meme pick, we go this
>somehow he goes unchecked and has a moon shard at 9 minutes
>he doesnt do much damage but is able to keep anyone in perma headshot stunlock
>hes getting assassinate kills left and right with aghs
>was easily the biggest factor for the enemy team winning because "lol hes just a support we can just ignore him"
God i was so fucking mad
100% headshot on take aim is actually fucking stupid, basically no one can fight you 1v1 while it's up which makes him unironically a lane stomper now
Leshrac, sven and pitlord are counters
What are your instant bans?
No matter what i ban witch doctor, slardar or spirit breaker now. I dont care who the enemy team picks i simly do not want to fucking play with one of those cancerous heroes in my games
I sometimes don't even use my ban but in Turbo I will ban Arc Warden every fucking game because that nagger is unstoppable once he gets on a roll. The game essentially is on a timer the second he gets midas.
CK
who the fuck thought that built-in lifesteal is a good idea
Ck is absolutely busted now i love playing him
Bracer+treads+uli+rift = i one shot your supports
of course SB CK the grim should be banned every game seriously he is probably the best support in the game the fact valve made his ulti pierce bkb on top of his shard then your E ink swell you can controll when you explode it man grim is soooo good and of course spec since
any 2v2 3vs3 or 4vs4 turns into a disadvantage to your team and he pretty much can hit the backline for free
ps people stop banning daz most people really cant play him unless you are an immortal level player im serious i havent seen a good dazzle and topson pretty much ruined daz for good
Reminder that turn rate and base attack time are good and fundamental parts of DOTA 2 game design and balancing.
>drow goes unpicked in main event last TI
BUFF MY GIRL, FUCKING ICEFRAUD
No
Either remove orb walking on all heroes like drow/viper/husk so they can play the game like the rest of us or fuck off
anyone crying about turnrate better fucking hate dark souls games or they're hyprocrites, weighted attacks and animations are the exact same concept as turn rate and attacks in dota
Who was the better character? Mars or Grimstroke?
easily grimstroke mars was always a corny ass character dawn and marci also have him beat
weakest character valve has put out
and valve needs to stop fucking around and bring back underlord old ulti
The game turned to shit after 7.00
It really is a shame that there are people that never experienced 6.xx dota 2 at its peak popularity.
Now it's just another game on life support development
aka i couldnt adapt and got filtered dota 2 right now is at its best coming from someone that started playing the game in 2013
7.00 was objectively an awful patch and caused the decline of Dota, just look at steam charts.
So for you just picking Str heroes and buying heart + blademail on everyone and having a bristleback that for some reason can one shot you is Dota at its best.
>homosexualback
Kek i love cocky bristles in lane that think they're unkillabe terminators only to get absolutely rocked by the first silver edge that comes online
objectively wrong
t. been playing since 5.84
I'm immortal and I agree that 7.0 was the beginning of dogshit patches
herald moment
I love Marci!
is OD balanced yet?
if not is he in a dogshit phase or busted phase?
absolutely infuriating to lane against him but after the first bkb/linkens/aeon disk is online, he's mostly just an annoyance
>hmm, let's make the one hero that can actually 1v5 if the game goes too late have an additional escape ability
Idk why op and you are crying about PL he isn't hard to deal with at all
maybe if you have competent teammates who can shut him down early on
2003: you can mod in any kind of shit into a game. For example, you could change your pistol for a banana in counter strike, or make the characters naked women
2023: you must pay valve $30 so your hero's hat emits more particles
I don't like the fact Sven is dumpstered. He's cool.
playing sven with a magnus on your team is incredibly based
I fucking hate this hero. I hate playing him, I hate having him on my team and I hate playing against him.
>press R to become the strongest unit on the map but too bad you're fucking useless when it runs out and so is your team because they have to play around your ult
Who thought this was a good idea
sounds pretty normal, while his ult is down he still has one of the most insane farm speeds as a carry so it's not bad at all
Most heroes are still useful without their ultimates, Sven is garbage because his ultimate is the entire hero. It's not even an instant game winning long CD ult that other ult oriented heroes like Enigma have, it's like if Terror blade didn't have illusions. He simply gets outcarried by every real carry in the game and running him as a 3 just takes space from 1 and 2 in order to not do much at all.
nah he's still tanky and fast as fuck and once you got items you do damage even without ult, but it doesnt matter because he farms like a motherfucker and beats the other carry by having 10k more networth, while having a delete button in every teamfight
Give your predictions on this nigga. He's gonna be some sort of robot nigga like Clockwerk or Tinker.
His ult will take control of a enemy hero
Mordekaiser from league, before or after the rework.
I hope he is a port of Puppetmaster from HoN
I hope not
hontrash need to stop pushing their garbage heroes in dota
honKINGS were the first to win 2 TIs, kneel to your superiors
>HoN port
I don't care for puppetmaster but I would start playing again if they put in deadwood
Hope so, DotA needs hypno porn kino.
>no hero is safe
incoming sex machine
Is Marci from that Netflix series? Only girl in the game to have an anime outfit.
I haven't touched the game in like 7 years, is my boy Timbersaw any good?
about to pick him in turbo ill let you know
Not an expert, but from what I know he's good but falls off in the late game, so you want to end the game before the enemy cores steamroll you.
If he hasn't changed much since early this year, basically what
says. Great early to mid game dominance that you must capitalize on by feeding a late game hero all your kills. Even decked out in items you will struggle to take on a right-clicker with bkb.
That sounds kinda sad. I mostly just have fond memories of being fucking invincible lategame and doing unholy amounts of damage with the chakram as long as I coule stay fed with mana.
No, he's pretty bad at the moment
Okay fine I'll fucking reinstall.
But I'm not uninstalling HOTS this time.
That's the neat part, you don't.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/a/a5/Vo_chen_chen_lose_01.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20201010192331
I see nothing
Just buy radiance heart blademail.
chances are you will anyway, since these 3 are far and away the best items in the game.
Draft Earthshaker.
Just played a game where my mid said he queued for all roles, swapped with our support player to play NP and then abandoned 2 mins into laning
phantom lancer is a late game hero
you win by preventing the game from reaching late game
you do this by playing mid and smashing the fuck out of them, controlling the game how you want it then snowball to ez victory
I hate modern Dota because :
>chat is heavily moderated, you can get muted DURING a game now
>you're also forbidden from pinging
>the best cosmetics are still forever lost in past battlepasses
>no more sideshops
>capped movement speed is absolutely retarded
>they ruined zeus
>they ruined windranger
>they ruined techies
>dedicated TP slot
fuck fuck fuck
>movement speed being capped is "modern dota"
?
>capped movement speed is absolutely retarded
t. didn't play during the Swift Blink movement speed stacking meta
clueless retard
have a nice day zoomer trendsucker
im literally older than you and have been playing dota longer than you
clueless retard
nice larping homosexual
now blow your brains out retarded lying mutt
seething schizo zoomer
been playing since 5.84
you are a clueless mongoloid
and dota always had a move speed limit, until they removed id and everything was retarded
nice larping retard
now be a good boy and have a nice day before you turn 18 you retarded fuck we don't need more parasites like you living off neetbucks
have a nice day it's not that hard
🙂
>>the best cosmetics are still forever lost in past battlepasses
The primary way to lose future whales, why start collecting when you can never collect 'em all?
Legion fucks him up pretty good in my experience. Her AOE just evaporates any illusions
Can I still do rat stuff as nature's prophet? I'm kind of a shitter and haven't played since the Medusa buff. She counters all my favorite heroes except LS.
He's more of a global ganker right now but he's really good.
for some reason I do well vs him as weaver. I dont know why weaver would 'counter' him in any way shape or form. Maybe its just dumb luck and I'm associating some wins where I happened to have better teammates with me playing this character, or maybe theres just something about hitting him hard with minus armor and ganking him that shuts him down early? I dont know.
weaver is also busted right now and hes new shard is great against pl
On the emotional level. Best strategy with any retard-friendly character.
>playing non-arcade game modes
The proper way to handle this situation would be visiting the closest psychiatrist
League is for CHADS, while Dota is for 3rd worlders and trannies.
Dota is for vatniggs and alike
League is for sissy zoomers and alike
HOTS is the only actually good moba.
hahaha
lol
lmao
based.
what are the chances of microsoft actually reviving it?
Havent touched the game since source 2 port, how are my niggas rubdick and phantom assass-in doing?
nigbick is the same annoying homosexual support who gets picked by naggers who think pressing r at the right time and throwing zero cast point animation spells back at the enemy is some kind of high skill play
pa recently got a very well deserved nerf because being the hardest late game carry who can turn invisible/untargetable with a better ninja gear and also one shot ac wearing cores was a tad broken (the nerf didn't go far enough). like rubick, is also played by naggers
Ganker is for leaguechads only, dotards OUT!
I dont play any games with k-pop advertisements
>Its a pos5 leaving you alone to roam (and failing) and never comes back at min4
>get harrassed and forced to jungle, giving them a free tower
I want the the most agonizing misfortune to pos5 players that does this shit. If you do this shit, fucking stop and support yoyr fucking carry.
>blaming others
ngmi
>player on pos5 actively doing what he's not supposed to do and not doing what he's supposed to do
>"well you shouldn't blame him for this"
???
By uninstalling dopt2a.
No need for thanks.
Why do you have to wait 70 fuckings seconds before respawn in this game? Why do CCs / stuns last for 15 seconds? That's why everybody will play League and not Dota
no one but amerimutts and chinks plays league, the dreg of the world
Respawn timer increases the longer the game goes on and the higher level your hero is, in other words it's a mechanic so that the game can actually fucking end at some point. Stuns last 15 seconds because the enemy team is coordinating their shit on someone they deem a threat and being rewarded with an extended period of lockdown.
Is shit still retarded with jungle items and level perks?
How is my e-boicon nigga doing nowadays?
Either a minor nuisance vs a lineup that can jump on top of him reliably or a time bomb that 1v5s the map if given a little bit of breathing room to farm with midas. There's no in between with arc
Same as it ever was then. I read that his clone gets a damage debuff when far away from the main Arc, has this affected his ability to rat too severely?
You can reduce/remove it late iirc.
Yeah, level 25 talent. It's either that or the extra duration. Honestly I think the extra duration is still better, you can have almost 100% uptime on your clone.
>from the moment arc warden is picked, a kind of "count down" will begin. maybe 10 minutes or so after first blood, maybe 15 will pass, and you're farming a creep wave, or stacking a jungle camp or whatever it is you're doing. without a worry in the world. when suddenly you'll hear the sound of a spark wraith behind you. but before you can even turn around - POP. teamwipe..
cheer up beautiful dotard. this is where you get to make it right by always fucking banning arc every game
Not good, you can't 1x9 the game anymore.
I don't know man, I just stomped a bunch of Crusaders
Doggedly.
Witch Doctor with aghs is the most broken support-carry in the game and counters all illusion heroes.
Dazzle.
Will valve even bother with a compendium next year? Seems unlikely. Crazy how that's the only thing they actually put effort into besides a few patches a year and it makes them money, yet they don't even feel it's worthwhile to bother
uninstall the fucking game, it's trash
i dont think that i will, no
PA shits on him right now
Who is the hottest woman in dota
QoP
lina, retard
you got it
i didn't say sluttiest i said hottest
Lanaya
Marci
cm
earthshaker
I miss boomer dota in the wc3 days, I tried getting into this and there are more mechanics to keep track of than in any other game I've ever played
skill issue
yes? thats the point
>zoomers have actually begun thinking that a game needs a complexity level of chess or shogi in order to be LE GOOD, meanwhile they'd fail miserably at either game
gitgud
you will get used to it and then you will begin to fucking love it i started 2months ago at 1.5k mmr and im addicted af at 3.1k mmr right now the challenge at the start what got me going
yes it's unironically the hardest comp game to play
lose
I wanna play again but doing 2-3 hours a day to play like, 3-4 games seems rough, plus solo queuing is ruff. But damn have I missed playing
SAY
MY
NAME
shartsqueezy
>you will never play sniper 4-5 with max cooldown reduction just shitting ults on the enemy team and stunning them all game
I tried to play nu-dota recently, but there's too much shit on the map I don't like it icefraud change to much shit.