How do people even find glitches that are absurdity complicated.

How do people even find glitches that are absurdity complicated. Like missingno, talk to this one random guy, fly to this specific island, then go up and down the coast until you see him. How do people find this stuff?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of players trying a lot of weird shit

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they notice the consistency by which they can replicate same encounters. someone accidentally surfed on cinnabar island after going to the safari zone, which resulted in exclusive safari zone pokemon being encountered in the water..

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    old games usually came from strategy guides

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Millions of people playing obsessively.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tell me about you missingno experiences, oldfags

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      following a guide online from an old website on a school computer to get mew and missingno on red

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought you couldn't get mew except with coliseum? Have I been a gay this entire time?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          mew is possible on red/blue/yellow, but not from the missingno glitch
          there was a glitch discovered only about 10 years ago to do it

          people that say they got it from the missingno glitch are liars trying to save face that they got mew through gameshark

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have a book from the early 2000s that talked about Missingno.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >10 years ago
            Wrong. It was way before that but here is proof of a video from way more than 10 years ago. I dont feel like finding whatever site I used. Its a different glitch but I was doing it from the same or a similar site. You are just mad you didnt know how.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This looks so much better without the piss filter. Good job, anon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >10 years ago
            Wrong. It was way before that but here is proof of a video from way more than 10 years ago. I dont feel like finding whatever site I used. Its a different glitch but I was doing it from the same or a similar site. You are just mad you didnt know how.

            Youre both wrong and retarded.
            You can catch any pokemon using the oldman missigno glitch, your name will determine which pokes appear and their lvls.
            Meanwhile the long range trainer glitch was found out around 03 and also allows you to catch any pokemon or battle any trainer, including oak, what shows up depends on the special stat of the last pkm you beat.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you can't get every pokemon with the old man glitch. you csn easily tell this just by realising there are more pokemon in gen 1 than there are characters you can use in your name, and a lot of those don't even give you regular pokemon and instead give you glitch pokemon or even trainers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You would obviously need multiple playthroughs with different names, but what i saying is that you can effectively pick what shows up and its lvl.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and you can't pick from every pokemon. you can't use the old man glitch to encounter a scyther for instance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember when I was a kid I used cloned master balls to catch a golbat over level 100. I fed it rare candies until it got to 255. If you feed it one more it overflows to 0 I was confused and mad that the pokemon I thought could level forever, couldn't.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I leveled up Charizard to 100 naturally then immediately learned about it showing my friends after and suddenly my achievement felt less spectacular.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf, rare candies help, but naturally training can build better stats

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      following a guide online from an old website on a school computer to get mew and missingno on red

      I thought you couldn't get mew except with coliseum? Have I been a gay this entire time?

      I remember when I was a kid I used cloned master balls to catch a golbat over level 100. I fed it rare candies until it got to 255. If you feed it one more it overflows to 0 I was confused and mad that the pokemon I thought could level forever, couldn't.

      >The hidden quest entering into the dark void of game cartridge juggling game breaking shit and freezes to obtain a special event pokemon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Used it to duplicate 255 Master Balls, but at that point I had already beat the game, caught all the legendary birds, and Mewtwo, so there wasn't even anything left for me to use them on Until the Mew glitch was discovered

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Accidentally killed Mewtwo while trying to catch it with ultraballs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be in elementary school
      >think missingno is really cool
      >tell some girl about the hidden 152nd Pokemon
      >she lights up gleefully
      >I get it for her, having already gotten it in my game and it was fine
      >it wipes her save file
      >she cries to a teacher who she convinces I did it on purpose
      >teacher believes her even though I told her I didn't, and I have it in my own game and it was fine
      >asks me to show her my Gameboy where I have it then
      >I didn't have it with me
      >she cusses me out and goes to tell all the other teachers who awful I am

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it legitimately felt like a creepypasta. I didn't ever think it was going to leave the game and kill me but it did feel like I'd stumbled on something I shouldn't. There were so many good rumors with Gen 1 like the hidden Mew under the truck or secret ways of unlocking Pikablu in the sea cave. Most of them were bullshit but it was fun.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait you mean there isn't a Mew under the truck next to the parked cruise ship? My friends in elementary school lied to me? I never got around to trying for it but I always wanted to believe...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't know why no one else was able to make it work

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My parents were the dirt of people who would tell me that cheat codes would put viruses on our computer, so I was incredibly afraid of breaking my cartridge and avoided every glitch. A friend had his save file corrupted and that scared me even more. I was 7

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I tried it once, couldn’t get it to appear, and never bothered to try again.
      The glitch was well-known, though. Pretty sure it was even in one of the many Pokémon guides/books I made my parents buy.
      I also bought a GameShark just for Mew.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I tried it to dupe rare candies and masterballs. I duped a lot of shit, including items that didn't have stacks, and that really fucked up the game. Eventually my Hall of Fame was so broken it showed Mew and other glitchy images
      I caught missingno once and it evolved into Golduck iirc

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just used it to duplicate Master Balls and Rare Candies, I assume that's what everyone else did as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always saw friends having fun with Missigno in Red/Blue and the box cloning trick in Gold/Silver, but I was a late comer to the video games and only had Yellow and Crystal which didn't have the famous methods for triggering these any longer so I never got to toy around with them much, and I never went back just for that reason with emulators, either. But with the 3DS Virtual Console releases I fucked around to my heart's content, in Red I caught Mew, I used Missigno to dupe a bunch of one-time TMs and shit, and in Silver I used save file/new game trickery to get all three starters and likewise duped some items with box cloning.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >for zoomers is unthinkable players playing the game and experimenting at it
    Grim medium

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pure perchance

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Missingno probably wasn't that hard to find. Keep in mind that strip along Cinnabar Island won't update with new area data if you're coming from the island until you continue further into the water. Which means it would actually be fairly common for someone to fly to Cinnabar, enter the water, and immediately encounter a Pokemon from the area they just left. From there, it wouldn't be hard to experiment and find weird shit like Missingno

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't Missingno prove the default state of pokemon is normal/bird

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do people even find glitches that are absurdity complicated.

    You play the game 1 trillion times like we ALL did growing. Pokemon was more or less my religion growing up as a kid.

    So many little tricks and secrets I learned over:

    * You can change the level and type of Missingno based on your name you choose at the start
    * Mew can be caught in the game without cheating (requires Abra teleport)
    * Dratini can be caught Safari Zone water
    * Keeping S.S. Anne instead of having it disappear forever.
    * Leveling Magikarp legitimately (as in by itself)
    * Caughting Mewtwo with a Pokeball

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Caughting
      dumb esl

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mew can be caught in the game without cheating (requires Abra teleport)
      isn't glitch abuse still cheating?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Preemptive tl;dr: No.
        In a general sense, anything outside the rules of the game that is used intentionally to gain an advantage or inflict a disadvantage is considered cheating. No game has rules that are balanced around the assumption of fixed or weighted rolls, so using fixed dice is cheating.
        For video games, there has to be a distinction made between doing something that the code allows but the developers didn't intend for, and doing something that the code outright DOESN'T allow by using external tools. The former is glitches. The latter is gameshark, cheat engine, aimbotting, and so on.
        There's no equivalent to video game cheating in real life. It'd be like bringing a draw four card to Go Fish.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          can anyone explain the mew glitch and the old man glitch pertaining to your character name?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Old Man glitch
            This one's not too hard.
            Pokemon is a game that needs to take up an obscenely low amount of memory, since it's a fuckoff huge RPG stuffed into a tiny Game Boy cartridge.
            There's a spot on Cinnabar Island that doesn't actually have encounter data coded, likely because of an oversight. The game instead just pulls encounter data from wherever you just were. Initially this was used to get unlimited Safari Zone encounters.
            However, remember how Pokemon needs to be extremely frugal with its data? It needs to remember what your name is while the old man gives you the catching tutorial, yeah? So it uses the databank normally reserved for wild Pokemon to store your player name, since normally, you wouldn't be getting any normal encounters immediately out of the catching tutorial.
            Now, you can use the characters in your name to load arbitrary Pokemon, including several glitch Pokemon, into the encounter data table, and the surf spot on Cinnabar to actually ENCOUNTER those Pokemon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Old Man glitch
            This one's not too hard.
            Pokemon is a game that needs to take up an obscenely low amount of memory, since it's a fuckoff huge RPG stuffed into a tiny Game Boy cartridge.
            There's a spot on Cinnabar Island that doesn't actually have encounter data coded, likely because of an oversight. The game instead just pulls encounter data from wherever you just were. Initially this was used to get unlimited Safari Zone encounters.
            However, remember how Pokemon needs to be extremely frugal with its data? It needs to remember what your name is while the old man gives you the catching tutorial, yeah? So it uses the databank normally reserved for wild Pokemon to store your player name, since normally, you wouldn't be getting any normal encounters immediately out of the catching tutorial.
            Now, you can use the characters in your name to load arbitrary Pokemon, including several glitch Pokemon, into the encounter data table, and the surf spot on Cinnabar to actually ENCOUNTER those Pokemon.

            >but why does it need to remember what your name is during the tutorial?
            Because it's replaced by the old man's name for that one battle, and has to be restored afterward.
            >Isn't it stored anywhere else?
            Nope. Duplicate data is verboten when you're saving space like Game Freak was.
            >But why does it get put into the memory normally reserved for encounter data in particular?
            They had every reason to believe it would be harmless. Anywhere you could go to that also had the chance to encounter something either scripted what that encounter was or had you go through a loading zone that cleared the previous encounter table to insert its own. Or at least, that's how it SHOULD'VE been. The Cinnabar spot was an oversight.

            I don't actually recall the specifics of the Mew glitch, but it's probably similar. Pokemon was made on an incredibly tight "memory budget", so lots of things that shouldn't be related to one another in the slightest can be found right next to each other in memory, at least temporarily. Making a function read even one bit outside of its intended space can have wild results.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Pokemon was made on an incredibly tight "memory budget"
              I recall reading a post some years ago that back sprites were compressed for that reason and that's why they look low res in comparison to the front sprites

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but the developers didn't intend for
          so wouldn't that make using a glitch to gain an advantage cheating then?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said, no. Cheating means introducing something to the game that could never normally occur. Gaining infinity lives by doing nothing in Mario, instead inputting a code on something that isn't Mario, is cheating.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i haven't used bank or any of that transfer bullshit so sorry if i don't know something but don't they have checks for "legality" or something, which flags mons obtained through glitches? in Mew's case at least, I heard Mew caught via the Mew glitch on VC will get flagged unless it matches a certain OT number by pure luck or something which strongly implies they don't consider glitch mons legal

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Glitch mons aren't considered LEGAL, no, but that doesn't mean they're considered CHEATING either. More just- the newer games wouldn't appreciate having garbage data in a Pokemon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Caughting Mewtwo with a Pokeball
      Broken English aside, there's no trick to it to be discovered in the first place. When compared with later Pokemon games' catching mechanics, seeing the "The ball missed the Pokemon!" message can be confusing at first, but really what's happening is just the game giving the odds of capture to you straight without any RNG involved in the amount of times the ball shakes. "The ball missed" is basically the 'zero shakes' of gen 1 and just means you have a very low chance, but a chance nonetheless if you just keep chucking balls.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ur mum didnt miss me last night

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck did people figure out that glitch to catch Mew? You literally have to know in advance to avoid battling 2 specific trainers on different routes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you don't necessarily need the trainers most guides emphasize, but they certainly make mew accessible to you asap

      the glitch has evolved to the point where you don't even need a second trainer, just a first one you can fly away from

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just need to try and open the menu while walking into their line of sight once, from there you're opened up to a lot of experimentation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can only imagine it started with someone realizing you could pause mid step. If someone realized that, it's pretty reasonable that they'd then think to try it stepping into a trainer's gaze. Then it's only natural to try triggering other things like flying when you know it's not supposed to be possible. I don't know about the rest, but people with a history of programming could probably make predictions that wouldn't occur to the average player.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People discover glitches and pass that knowledge onto other people that innovate it.
      >Glitch to catch any pokemon in the game as early as Cerulean City is discovered
      >Word of mouth, online forums, and most importantly for their time, game magazines publish the method
      >Other people experiment until they fully break down the cause and effects, or just happen to find a favorable roll (in this case, Mew)
      Nowadays, glitch hunters use tools to streamline the process, but back in the day it was just a series of people discovering. There were also people using gamesharks aiding the process.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Programmers love to find ways to access memory they're not supposed to

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw was in the mew glitch gamefaqs thread
    No one wanted to believe it at first. OP got fucking hounded, and then the confirmations came in. Wild times.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any saved pics of it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No sadly, but have the first page of the thread.
        http://web.archive.org/web/20111125011704/http://gamefaqsarchive.com/index.php?pg=463

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always found it weird how long it took people to find the Mew Glitch. With no knowledge of how it works whatsoever it would only take like an hour of playing around with escaping from long range trainers to find out it can make random pokemon spawn.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Missingno isn't really absurdly complicated.
    it's pretty common that someone might fly to cinnabar and surf the right coast to look for new pokemon, and from there it's easy to notice the encounters aren't water encounters. From there you work out the encounters are from wherever you just left, and from there you start wondering "what if I use somewhere with weird encounter rules like safari zone or the capture tutorial?"

    tldr; you're not mentally engaged with what's happening and thinking about things going on around you, but other people are. You're an npc.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The people who worked on the game leak them, retard.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do people even find glitches that are absurdity complicated. Like missingno
    That one, you can sort of see the logic for.
    >Step one: Discover this random spot copies the wild Pokemon data of wherever you just were (easily accomplished with Fly)
    >Step two: Experiment with what alters wild Pokemon data, at first by going to areas with cool or desirable wild Pokemon data, then places that should have none
    >Step three: Try every possible event that does something potentially nonstandard but ultimately intended, like displaying a person other than you on your side of the screen, in conjunction with this obviously unintended behavior
    >Step four: ???
    >Step five: Profit

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never decided to randomly fly to cinnabar island to look for water pokemon by surfing on the edge, likely because i wasnt that interested in doing so. Perhaps thats one factor for not picking up on the pattern to sniff out this glitch.

    My guess water pokemon lovers were more likely to see the pattern with that edge since 1, they would fly there since they could easily walk two steps to a pokecenter to heal.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >guy decides to grind for blaine after going through pokemon mansion
    >uses the coast of cinnabar since it is close to poke center
    >realizes he can fight growlithe while surfing
    >keeps playing and goes to victory road
    >when he goes back to show his buddy now he's fighting geodudes and machops
    >repeat in many different cities and towns, kids moving city to city spread it quicker
    >game magazines and the early internet spread it even further
    >eventually someone discovers you can fight safari zone pokemon like this
    >trick becomes common knowledge

    >later someone fucks up and talks to the coffee dude before going to cinnabar
    >HOLY SHIT

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not hard, just took someone noticing the weird encounters in the water strip, originally letting people catch Safari Zone pokemon outside the area.
    The old man extension is more difficult, but still not unreasonable after playing around.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they do it by breaking the game open and looking at the code, not by playing the game itself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      doesnt always work. bloodmoney still has undiscovered stuff in it

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone just naturally knew someone that knew about missingno

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