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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have knowlede about this stuff also sahres & company tradings?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick off, you creepy butthole

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thats the fun part, you dont

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. You accelerate it until it goes out of control and everything crashes and burns to the ground. I love unbridled capitalism.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >got btfo'd from the introvert thread
    >immediately creates a thread
    like clockwork

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>got btfo'd from the introvert thread
      creates a thread
      >like clockwork
      What, pls speak in normal forumla?

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he's right

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they were discussing how to make the product better, what the frick
    >WHERE ARE MY YACHTS YWATA?!?
    Toppest of keks.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'd think this is some over-the-top caricature of a shareholder, but they really are like that.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt it. Imagine the guy invests in an orange juice factory and is offended because at the business meeting they are talking about the quality of the orange. It doesn't make any sense.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Note OG was about "the future", most investors are in for short squeeze. The modus operandi is exploit brand name to maximize profit with bad practices and when they lost their value jump to next one.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          In that case the investor would bring up the quality of the oranges, but he would say that there is no need to buy high quality oranges when they can purchase shitty oranges for cheaper. Investors don't give a frick about quality, thet care about profit margins.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            And thats moronic and expecting to be catered to with such a terrible model is moronic and conceited. Investors are literal fricking scum

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Why would they be stupid if it increases profits? Do you think making another cod/fifa 12 that's barely different from 11 with microtransactions that nets them billions upon billions is dumb because you think its bad? as long as people pay for it and profit increase then the investor is on the right. If people wanted high quality oranges they would stop buying the lower quality ones.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Making a shoddy product only increases short term gains. The reputation of your company should be more important. I'd rather have guaranteed steady income instead of cash now at the cost of ruining our rep.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Stakeholders are often interested in technicals more than the product itself.
          Sometimes they're interested in the industry and product but lots of more general investors who have a finger in many different pies are more just interested in the purely technical, abstracted aspects of a business than the particulars of its product.
          >t. has had to sit in on stakeholder meetings and take their stupid questions

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is the only anon in the entire thread who actually knows something about the subject and isn't a gibbering moron

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              you mean like you?
              >waahhh people don't have exactly the same outlook as me they must be dumn
              Midwits are a blight on the internet.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                gibbering moron spotted

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You keep calling people morons but you can't explain why or how they're wrong because your own knowledge of the subject is no greater than theirs.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          if they cared about the quality of the orange juice they'd work at a juice factory

          nice food analogy btw

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    killing investors, obviously.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Private Companies, such as Valve for example.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is also the only exception.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >One guy quits
      >Sells his shares to a guy that wants the capital gains and dividends

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gaben owns the majority voting share so we only have to worry about that when he dies

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gabens daughter only plays korean mmos like maplestory and mabinogi
          >she's the one who gets the money
          AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is also the only exception.

      >Valve
      Lol what
      Valve is the greatest example of the company's head becoming the selfish investor themselves

      Gaben spends the billions they take away from gaming on his luxury lifestyle instead of actually hiring people to develop games or do anything. Valve barely has 300 employees despite having one of the highest revenues among gaming companies. Capcom with their ten times more employees and over ten times higher gaming output doesn't have tenth of Valve's revenue.

      The amount of delusion this cancerous company gets is astounding. People really think they aren't a shitty company just because they don't release many "bad games" and don't piss people off directly, when the only reason for that is because they don't release shit in general, Gaben just pocket's the company's money like the greediest shittiest investor would

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just because they don't release many "bad games" and don't piss people off directly,
        Thats literally all you need to do Black person and most companies can't even get that right.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          stop being this clueless
          not developing products from the revenue you take away from the industry is far worse than developing a lot of things people want but occasionally making missfires that people can just ignore anyway.

          the only game valve made directly for PC in the last 10 years is a shitty flopped card game, it's not even like their track record is flawless, what decieves people is that technically they also developed so little bad games in this time, ignoring that their overall productivity was fricking horrible. The worst thing is that Valve's main source of revenue is taking money from other devleoper's revenue

          Thanks for the clarification, I don't follow the business that much in general.

          What do you think of EA and Activision in general? Do you think the CEOs there are completely different, so that can form certain partnerships with them when it comes e.g to IPs or other business things..

          Activision heads are noticably obsessed with short term profit to the point where they don't consider how much these decisions hurts the company's long term success. This caused the massive fall of Blizzard and they still haven't shown sign of improving, which is the reason many people want the MS acquisition to go through, just so it will change anything about the management since "it can't possible get worse"

          EA was in a similar ship and while they are still far from ideal they actually showed signs of becoming somewhat aware that they can't only hyperfocus on short term profit. They became slightly more productive at making games that just get good word of mouth and still meant to be profitable but aren't necessarily maximizing their low development cost vs short term profit efficiency (without caring much about long term reputation)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the clarification, I don't follow the business that much in general.

        What do you think of EA and Activision in general? Do you think the CEOs there are completely different, so that can form certain partnerships with them when it comes e.g to IPs or other business things..

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          stop being this clueless
          not developing products from the revenue you take away from the industry is far worse than developing a lot of things people want but occasionally making missfires that people can just ignore anyway.

          the only game valve made directly for PC in the last 10 years is a shitty flopped card game, it's not even like their track record is flawless, what decieves people is that technically they also developed so little bad games in this time, ignoring that their overall productivity was fricking horrible. The worst thing is that Valve's main source of revenue is taking money from other devleoper's revenue

          [...]
          Activision heads are noticably obsessed with short term profit to the point where they don't consider how much these decisions hurts the company's long term success. This caused the massive fall of Blizzard and they still haven't shown sign of improving, which is the reason many people want the MS acquisition to go through, just so it will change anything about the management since "it can't possible get worse"

          EA was in a similar ship and while they are still far from ideal they actually showed signs of becoming somewhat aware that they can't only hyperfocus on short term profit. They became slightly more productive at making games that just get good word of mouth and still meant to be profitable but aren't necessarily maximizing their low development cost vs short term profit efficiency (without caring much about long term reputation)

          EA board members where largely just kids collecting kickback money from politics for their parents. They werent just clueless, they had absolutely no interest and just where there to get paid passively.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gaben spends the billions they take away from gaming on his luxury lifestyle instead of actually hiring people to develop games or do anything.
        ok and
        >Valve barely has 300 employees despite having one of the highest revenues among gaming companies.
        ok and
        >People really think they aren't a shitty company just because they don't release many "bad games" and don't piss people off directly, when the only reason for that is because they don't release shit in general, Gaben just pocket's the company's money like the greediest shittiest investor would
        ok and
        it's his company
        he's free to do with the money he earns as he sees fit LOL
        get fricked troony

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's how shareholders work too, it's their company and they can do whatever they want with it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, and i don't give a frick since i'm not in a position of power to do anything about it, and neither is anyone else

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >how do we stop this bad thing from happening?
          >private companies like Valve
          >but that doesn't actually stop the bad thing
          >OKAY DUDE BUT HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY UNLIKE GOMMUNISM
          dude read the thread before you embarrass yourself

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the bad thing isn't people getting rich moron

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was half expecting this to turn into the Artifact copypasta

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They work on steam, made a vr device made proton, made the steam deck, steam controller. They are always doing stuff. Just brcause they aremt working on tf2 24/7 doesn't mean they arent doing anything.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hot take but true. Valve doesn't really development games anymore and there is no reason for it other than they dont need to. They make all their money off of selling other peoples games. Hardly something Id want from any of the big 3. Even Microsoft releases and funds more games than Valve.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >more employees = more product
        Not true. Once you get to a large enough point, the assfrick amount of middle mismanagement makes getting anything done impossible. SEE: BLIZZARD

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah see twitter. had a ton of employees who did nothing but get salaries for doing nothing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Valve doesn't produce much. They're just stacking cash.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are the only corporation really producing anything in regards to Linux gaming. A very unprofitable venture.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Valve is a facilitator. They invest in linux because there's a market of machines there to sell to. Just like VR. All Valve does is try to open door and soften the field for their marketplace to sell games.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No they invest in Linux because they are afraid of the future where Microsoft tyranny puts them out of business. They wouldn't be doing this if they were a public corporation since it's not profitable enough and nobody investing in a public corporation gives a frick whether it's around 10 years from now as long as they get their profit.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            They just want to own the entire technology stack so nothing will work without their DRM.
            Kinda how they use linux to push closed source software and freetards just eat it up.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe, but a company resting on its laurels because its making enough money is infinitely preferable to a company constantly coming up with new and exciting ways to israelite you in the pursuit of unending growth to keep shareholders happy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Valve might as well be a federal reserve of money

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Private Companies, such as Valve for example.
      LMFAO almost majority owned by Blackrock and will be once Gabe kicks it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do we break up Blackrock?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          By investing in WhiteSand.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Getting real sick of your shit, Obi-Wan

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The moment your business goes public is same second every ~~*interest*~~ starts to slowly poison and israelitefy your IP. It will be distilled to the point that risk aversion will be so bad that even changing a single texture will require 4 to 5 studies and focus groups. It's why modern goyslop games and movies are so awful and uninspiring, they are directed with insane amount of microcontroll and formual.

        The only way to get rid of investors to have a means of raising capital that doesn't put interest in the hands of private entites.

        Also most people don't realize that the "investors" in our clown world are not individuals like you and me. They are entirely compromised by israelite lord hedgefunds and/or venture/vulture capital firms which they themselves are private corporations like Blackrock that basically run our economy.
        These hedgefunds and VCs often do more then write angry shareholder letters ( which in this case to Nintendo is a , "better start towing the line warning"). They often use legal means and will sue corps that don't make capital gains at all costs their no.1 priority, meaning even if a corporation wants to not act like a greedy israelite they cannot or risk having the entire board sued by by shareholders (aka hedge funds). They can also do other shit like manipulate stocks/sell of shares to force corporations to tow the line, or in Blackrocks case are influential enough to create their own rating metrics like ESG.

        got any proofs that blackrock owns them?????????????

        of course you don't have proof that they own them because you don't have access to their financials. but go ahead and regale us with another intellectually bankrupt response like you do know :^)

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          There was a fake news article posted not too long ago that said that one of the shareholders for Valve died and Blackrock acquired his share. Trying to search for the article resulted in nothing

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >incel conspiracy theorists that supposedly hate the liberal media will still fall hook line and sinker for any one of their stories that affirms their beliefs
            can't say i'm surprised

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          have a nice day, israelite

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Post evidence you moronic homosexual

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This

      Valve was like the only company that didn't post about black lives matter

      Frick the stock market

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know
        So ignorant

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Valve is owned partially by Tencent.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Source is your fricking ass

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Being “private” doesn’t mean what you think it means. Gary Gygax’s TSR was a private company.

      https://medium.com/@increment/the-ambush-at-sheridan-springs-3a29d07f6836

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The board proceeded to review the company’s turbulent negotiations with the American National Bank before moving on to the ostensible purpose of the meeting, a discussion regarding TSR’s royalty payments to authors. In recent internal memos, Gygax had insisted that the company allow its employees, himself especially, to retain all copyrights, trademarks, and royalties for works authored rather than assigning them to TSR; in the eyes of other directors, this was in violation of existing contracts. During the course of this discussion, Gygax mused that since it seemed the board would find it easier to afford him these privileges if he were not an employee, perhaps he should just resign.
        Holy lmao

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    wdym? I encourage it. there needs to be a reset to get the sea clowns out

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What the hell? The video game company I invested in wants to make VIDEO GAMES??????

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>What the hell? The video game company I invested in wants to make VIDEO GAMES??????
      The mindset on some investors is baffling and explains a lot.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, anon. The stipulation doesn't require the video games made to be in competition of quality among its contemporaries.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The moment your business goes public is same second every ~~*interest*~~ starts to slowly poison and israelitefy your IP. It will be distilled to the point that risk aversion will be so bad that even changing a single texture will require 4 to 5 studies and focus groups. It's why modern goyslop games and movies are so awful and uninspiring, they are directed with insane amount of microcontroll and formual.

          The only way to get rid of investors to have a means of raising capital that doesn't put interest in the hands of private entites.

          Also most people don't realize that the "investors" in our clown world are not individuals like you and me. They are entirely compromised by israelite lord hedgefunds and/or venture/vulture capital firms which they themselves are private corporations like Blackrock that basically run our economy.
          These hedgefunds and VCs often do more then write angry shareholder letters ( which in this case to Nintendo is a , "better start towing the line warning"). They often use legal means and will sue corps that don't make capital gains at all costs their no.1 priority, meaning even if a corporation wants to not act like a greedy israelite they cannot or risk having the entire board sued by by shareholders (aka hedge funds). They can also do other shit like manipulate stocks/sell of shares to force corporations to tow the line, or in Blackrocks case are influential enough to create their own rating metrics like ESG.

          Ment to reply to you be yeah to reinforce the ~~*investors/hedgies*~~ don't give 2fricks about video games. They only care about maximizing capital. It why we see such low effort f2p, cashshop/lootbox goyslop games. Anything else is uneeded risk, which leads to further squeezing every nickel from cutting employees to skeleton crews to maintain the online services to adding micro transactions to everything even down to cutting coffee at the breakroom.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            But that's their job. CEOs are literally chosen by the board solely because of their ability to manage the company to make things go up and stay up. People like to shit on CEOs but they are also employees at the end of the day.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              And so are cops and politicians but they all deserve what's coming to them. I dont care if you're "just doing your job" when your job is making the world a worse place to live

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What should the future of video games be?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      total collapse of AAA publishing and letting new growth rise from the ashes, as is nature's way

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man is the master of nature, not the other way around, anon.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Man is always beholden to nature. Climate change only matters insofar as it affects humanity's survival and our extinction would barely be a blip on Earth's long remaining lifespan.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder what forms of life will evolve from pigeons, rats, and wienerroaches. Small generalists became the mammal clades of today, so i could totally see something human-esque evolving again
            And then ruining everything all over again

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Correct

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Companies make games, we buy them. Some are good, some are bad, a handfull becomes instant classics. What else there is to be?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Burn it to the ground and rebuild it like the manga industry, sole creators or duos making cool shit with publishers boosting the best talent or very good indies having their own audiences.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The manga industry cannot exist in the West as it is actually unethical according to western standards.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Burn it to the ground and rebuild it like the manga industry
        huh, what happened to manga?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing, im saying it should mirror it in how it is built on individual creators either making whatever the frick they want or making new shit that caters to established publishing brands if they want big money. I wouldnt even mind if they stole the anime part where big, souless industries skim the cream and transform it into AAA bullshit for normies, atleast the core of each big budget game would have some artistic intent.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        manga industry in the west is complete garbage and nips still abuse their power to kill off any manga they don't like

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not really talking about manga industry in the west, the thing that is interesting is the domestic core that produces massive amounts of fresh content.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >uhm, who cares?
      >I invested in NINTENDO, the company who's logo appears on the Mario Movie, not "video games"

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lock the shareholders, investors and CEOs in sensory deprivation chambers. After a few weeks extract their gibbering forms and relocate them into bland, sterile rooms. Start them on British foods and work your way up to flavorless gruel before introducing a modicum of flavor into their diet. Proceed similarly with social contact by allowing them to converse with the drunken Finnish janitors before allowing them to converse amongst themselves.
    This may have been able to reset their brain chemistry to a human baseline but it will be a tenuous balance. Keep them away from CGI presentations, forms of resource acquisition with no natural cap (like money) and speculative gambling.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2 shareholders had to be executed because the Finnish janitor said the word "interest" which was misheard as "invest", again, sending the 2 into an immediate flurry of stocks and price per capita
      Never again.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        detox clinics for greedy israelites sound like a great idea actually
        how do i long it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why the animosity against the CEOS and the like?
      Not all CEOS are on such a track, I suppose.
      Of course, these companies have to have their own economic goals, also in relation to the competition.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not all CEOs
        small business owners can be genuinely good people, but to reach a dominant position in any moderately-large company you generally have to be a bastard with no qualms about stepping on people and screwing them over if it means making it a step higher on the ladder. That attitude is exactly what most shareholders want, the next quarter is all that matters.
        >Why the animosity against the CEOS and the like?
        not that anon, but if people want to act like animals I'll regard them as such.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think most people don't realize CEOs in reality do not run public corporations. They are basically tied to algorithmic driven hyper israelite hedgefunds and other investors.
          Doesn't mean the CEOs can't be greedy as they often hold a majority share of the Corp to begin with. What I'm saying is these days they are mostly talking heads for the above.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            which makes it frankly ridiculous that they need 700 gorillion dollars in compensation and an ocean of bonuses

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I actually prefer small and family businesses.
          For example, now with the takeover of MS from Activision, I think it shouldn't have happened that way.

          You either become a private company that doesn't allow investors or have the investors sign a binding contract that they are not allowed to influence game design.

          Unfortunately investors are going to kill vidya, as in mostly AAA. Fortunately however, this industry might need another video game crash. All we can do is wait and see.

          Since you mention it, how do investors influence game design? Something like BF 2042 was the case... or was that just the wrong game concept?

          *Then they would have to have known beforehand how it will and should be.

          The investors don't have any background in games, just finance & Co. I guess so

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Since you mention it, how do investors influence game design? Something like BF 2042 was the case... or was that just the wrong game concept?
            As I said here

            The moment your business goes public is same second every ~~*interest*~~ starts to slowly poison and israelitefy your IP. It will be distilled to the point that risk aversion will be so bad that even changing a single texture will require 4 to 5 studies and focus groups. It's why modern goyslop games and movies are so awful and uninspiring, they are directed with insane amount of microcontroll and formual.

            The only way to get rid of investors to have a means of raising capital that doesn't put interest in the hands of private entites.

            Also most people don't realize that the "investors" in our clown world are not individuals like you and me. They are entirely compromised by israelite lord hedgefunds and/or venture/vulture capital firms which they themselves are private corporations like Blackrock that basically run our economy.
            These hedgefunds and VCs often do more then write angry shareholder letters ( which in this case to Nintendo is a , "better start towing the line warning"). They often use legal means and will sue corps that don't make capital gains at all costs their no.1 priority, meaning even if a corporation wants to not act like a greedy israelite they cannot or risk having the entire board sued by by shareholders (aka hedge funds). They can also do other shit like manipulate stocks/sell of shares to force corporations to tow the line, or in Blackrocks case are influential enough to create their own rating metrics like ESG.

            they can basically sue or intentionally manipulate the share price by dropping it or shorting it if they feel the Corp is not adequately focusing on capital gains. Something like battlefield can be down to how much the project is costing, down to the exact pysops on the color pallete/Micro Transitions. So they basically will dictate the direction of the game ask the question, "Why is x not focused on gains?" It's a shifty system and its why we have such bland goyslop games.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              This pic is so fricking hot anyway keep fighting the good fight

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not all CEOS are on such a track, I suppose.
        But they are. Corporations' duty to their shareholders is to maximize profits, and CEOs are captains in charge of the ship.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          CEOs are not much the captains as they are the First/Chief Mate. The captain would be the board of directors, the investors the ones who fund the voyage and own the ship.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Hey captain, we want to go to the bermuda triangle
            >frick you
            >Officer, arrest this man
            >Congratulation on your promotion captain puppet, we want to go to the berumda triangle
            >roger

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now you know who's actually making videogames worse.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've never seen this image without the demoman before

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, its the zoomer troony janny diversity hires. not the based investors.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        anon...the investors are the ones putting people in power that hire those people. please don't tell me you're this ignorant. you probably are given how many buzzwords you loaded into your post

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think anon was being facetious

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he thinks the video game industry can crash
    It's so tangled in the tech sector that tech itself has to crash and the only way that's happening is if the entire earth is hit by a CME over and over again for at least two decades

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do investors even want to do with all their money? Because my uncle made over 1 million dollars recently from investments and all he still does is sit around in his house watching tv and working in his shed. He's 65 and never even gone on a holiday or anything. He's just had extremely boring life of working and nothing else. To what end?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Profit itself is the goal

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      remember all those old arcade games with a score counter? it's like that. money is your high score in life.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Security of not having to worry about shit. I would do the same honestly. Just wanna be left alone doing nothing at my own leisure.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >free to work in his shed with no worries
      Seems like he knows what he's doing anon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks being financially solvent and THEN SOME isn't the goal itself so you can spend your life playing vidya or watching TV or whatever
      It's a male thing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What do investors even want to do with all their money
      ride out the end of western civilization on a comfy island (or in your uncle's case, the comfy neighbourhood)

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most rational reasoning I can think of is big number = peace of mind.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i want to buy food and utilities once i retire

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Americans think having more money means more problems so even rich people are mindbroken into a constant state of stress or anxiety, where one late utility bill now means financial ruin and automatic tipping is seen as some huge fricking ordeal. The truth is, even the poorest Southerners over here have more expendable capital than the average Argentinian, or Chinese, or Russian. Exchange rates don't lie.

      When you're born into wealth, there's this assumption that that money IS part of you. If you can't keep the pot growing for the next generation, you're seen as a genetic dead end even though the entire point of living in the first world is a guaranteed safety net. If your uncle spent all those million dollars in two days, he'd still be able to return to normalcy, whereas in other countries he'd either starve or just get fricked mugged immediately by opportunists.

      Obviously the solution isn't to do an Emperor's New Clothes thing, but to just stop worrying about finances in general. Money isn't even good for qualitative living, it's just a means to an end. Anyone who thinks life will objectively improve above a $65k US income is actually braindead.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Americans think having more money means more problems
        That's just not an American thing, that's just a thing in general.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >exchange rates
        lold. Someone never heard of local living cost.

        The only relevant thing is ratio of what you spend vs what you earn. A lot of poor shitholes are easier because they might earn 1/10 but they spend 1/20 and are taxed less too.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Exchange rates don't lie.
        Exchange rates mean jack shit when you're not going overseas to spend it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i said i would stop caring once i made 3 million. then i made 5.9 million and i just wondered how big i could make number go

      might be the same for your uncle

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a chink in your armor

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          *Jap
          If you're racist, at least do it right

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >missing the joke
            Also, isn't it more racist to be wrong about the specific nationality?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Makes money
      >Spends time as he pleases without caring about what other people think
      Unfathomably based. Your uncle is succesfull financially, and spiritually. Learn from him

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i would say the solution, but that would send me to the gulag

      at one point is kinda of a mental ill, like how Blacks/women collect shoes, but you collect money, or how some /v gays collect garbage toys or video games who will never play them

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That old israelite just realized that the younger fat israelites are getting pozzed up on their own supply

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Old money never taught new money how to keep emotional investment out of the equation, and it's going to bite EVERYONE in the ass.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Getting ruch is unironicallytoxic to your mind. And it's way easier to make money when you're already rich. Eventually you just want more because you want to see number go up and you don't care who has to suffer in the process.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because when it's all said and done, you've secured not only your future but for your posterity under your name as well. That's how dynasties are created.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the human brain is hardcoded to want that number to keep going up and up and up forever, and as long this is the case nothing is going to get better

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dad is an electrician and works for some dude who has millions of dollars and several businesses.
      >Dude and his family are pushing 60-70, still working to increase profit and dodge as many ways to pay for things in the correct way in a sort of legal gray are despite being more than capable than paying the correct way and still come out with a millions.
      >Could have retired already but for some reason, their kids also wouldnt need to work and enjoy half to a decade without worries, but cant seem to stop.
      Some people just live for the work and seeing that bank number go higher I guess.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Green line go up. Money becomes immaterial, only green line good. Only bigger number. My grandfather was like this. Spent his life working and never been a father to my dad, retired at 50, died with millions while I spent my childhood in a trailer in the woods. He had a gun collection my dad and I liked, hasn't shot in over 20 years, I offered to buy his Python or Diamondback off of him after he started talking about selling it. Offered him $900 for a gun he paid like $150 for in the 80s. Wouldn't sell it to me because "the prices weren't stable". Of course he didn't take a single penny of it with him to the grave. I don't hate him but by god he was such a fricking israelite sometimes.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This but for my grandfather's ancestral home when he passed. His sister literally got it foreclosed because she wanted to rent it out to fricking strangers that usually had bad finances just so she can make a little more money. Well it cost her more than she thought and ended up having to exhume my grandfather, his older brother and his father and mother's bones from the property.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          jesus christ

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They simply want to see the number go up and see it as a game. You have fricks like Logan Paul admit that all they care about is having the highest number he can before 30, and he doesn't care who he scams or rips off to do it.
      The pursuit of money by the already filthy rich shows how soulless they really are.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He's just had extremely boring life of working and nothing else. To what end?
      what is life?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Grandfather is an abusive butthole his whole life
      >Does the most moronic shit but gets away with it because it was 1940-something and land costed 4 pennies back then
      >Never once used a bank
      >Before he was hospitalized, he spent almost all his money on gold
      >Tells his loudmouth son (my idiot uncle) that he buried it
      >Uncle then does everything in his power to make sure the property/farm is his
      >Since he always signed shit in his fathers name, we think he counterfeited a false will
      >Grandmothers will (since she's been dead for years) is mysteriously missing
      >Can't legally do anything about it
      >On deathbed, ask my grandfather in private why he buried gold
      >"What gold? Only said that cause otherwise that little moron would sell the farm."
      Makes me laugh still thinking about it and no, nobody knows about this.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Before he was hospitalized, he spent almost all his money on gold
        >"What gold? Only said that cause otherwise that little moron would sell the farm."

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the boomer mentality.

      >save money and live like shit when you're in the best years of your life!
      >don't take vacations! don't spend on family! work overtime all the time!
      >now you're 70 and can finally enjoy life
      It's a cancer. Make memories while you're young because anything past 40 is just the long march to death.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea, after working in retail a few years I realized early that companies don’t give a frick about you and you need to just live life the best you can. Live within your means but don’t forget to actually live life. Nobody wished that they worked more on their deathbed. Save for bad shit happening or to help your kids out, but past a million it’s all just buying shit for the sake of it. I make more money than before and I’m not happier, actually I’m less happy now because all the cool shit I liked before went to shit, entertainment is pozzed and gay in general, and now AI threatens to make the derivative problems of said entertainment even more creatively incestuous then it is today. I just wanna get excited about cool stories and live as a pirate or a space marine or whatever and feel like a badass

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          People like this should unironically be killed.
          We need to do it humanely, do it quickly, and take no pleasure in it, but they still must not be allowed to live.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you don't have a life you stupid peasant
          holy frick this person is evil

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is correct if you do your own startup and actually can get rich or die if you dont deliver. Its moronic as a wagie.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is what brainwashing looks like
          >Noooo, don't think of your own self-interest! You're being selfish!
          >Think of the corporation's self-interest
          >Then think of your family's self interest in your 30s, 40s and 50s
          This mostly sounds like a person who lacks friends or hobbies that might demand their time. They're spiteful that everyone else even has a life outside of work, or at the very least unable to understand it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The most frustrating part of this is she's just a token hire. Look at her. That is not what someone who actually gets shit done in a white collar field looks like. She has a cozy make-work position for just being a pretty woman and does frick all while the men around her actually sacrifice and suffer to get shit done so women like her and LARP as classy business people.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That is the root of the "more women in the workplace" meme. They don't want to work. They don't want to be steelworkers or drive a garbage truck, or any other job that is 99% male. They want to sit in a cozy office and LARP. They complain about Barbie being an unrealistic standard for women but at the end of the day success to them is getting to dress up like they actually have a job, taking Instagram pictures, and calling it a day.

            I have met only a handful of women who are as good as a man at their job. When I worked with the Marines there was the most butch fricking Gunnery Sgt. you could imagine. Terminal case of resting b***h face, actually knew her MOS better than others. She despised women. Fricking hated them. She genuinely believed that women don't belong in the military at all. Her Marines loved her. This kind of woman is exceedingly rare and should be the only women allowed to have a job that requires any kind of effort and skill.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              All the women that actually did shit get told that they dont have to work and are entitled to everything with no effort, so they get an overblown ego about it. Same shit happens with minorities, especially blacks. In the 90s there were a lot of black families that just wanted to get a good job and build their family's empire. Not saying that there isnt any of that shit now, but their youth grows up hearing about how theyre entitled to everything and dumb 13 year old white girls keep peddling the same shit on twitter, so a lot of people grow up thinking all whites are ebil and the only ones that ever did anything bad ever and that they as minorities deserve everything on the planet. Cant even blame them really, the entire younger generation is getting brainwashed into this shit.

              Then you get the opposite side of the coin where people are fetishizing blacks with the "BBC" shit which sets them back further, and recently I found out that some minorities also do that to whites, as in a minority like a latina marrying a white man is considered "marrying up" or some shit, like they are peasants marrying into royalty. This gets even worse with this whole notion that whites live on turbo easy mode, to where you can get paranoid if the girl youre with actually likes you or if she just thinks shes getting a "free ticket" because you happen to be white while she isnt. Honestly fricks with me, and I can only imagine what it feels like to be a black guy with all the prostitutes out there fetishizing them.

              I just want everyone to work on fricking improving themselves. Shit is hard enough as it is and the homosexuals at the top are the true enemy, not john cis mcwhiteman next door or laquisha blackum down the lane.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              My mom was like that, hated working with most women because they just gossiped or wanted to show boat and get all the credit for the work while others did it all. She worked in a warehouse and became the manager overlooking 60+ dudes. They all disrespected her at first but they saw that she worked hard and went to bat for them when other parts of the company constantly pushed their bullshit on the warehouse. She also gave the warehouse guys their own shit right back to them, which probably made them respect her more kek. She just was fair with them and told them to shape up when they fricked up but stood up for them when they were getting shit on by the rest of corporate. They would make up names for her, and she gave it right back. Named each shift off of the shift lead; Lou's Ladies (they kept trying to get out of work), Bender's Babies (the shift that b***hed and moaned a lot), and Ron's morons (late shift, self explanatory). In time they ended up adopting the names themselves.

              She worked until the week before she was about to give birth to me and had to be forced to go home but before that, the guys that hated her when she first showed up had pitched in all of their meager earnings to buy her a baby stroller for me. When she left the work place for good they would call her every other week to complain about what a frick head the newest manager was. She won over 60+ burly dudes just because she was hard working and fair, and this was in the 80s.

              Frick, I miss you Mom. I should have listened to you more growing up. I really thought you were going to beat the cancer, I cant believe you're gone. Frick.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Named each shift off of the shift lead; Lou's Ladies (they kept trying to get out of work), Bender's Babies (the shift that b***hed and moaned a lot), and Ron's morons (late shift, self explanatory). In time they ended up adopting the names themselves.
                Kek that’s pretty good. Sorry to hear about your mom anon

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >She has a cozy make-work position for just being a pretty woman and does frick all while the men around her actually sacrifice and suffer to get shit done
            Frick I know this feel.
            Just quit a job over having to babysit four people with only me and one other guy doing 95% of the actual work.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice assooming

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically correct and modern homosexuals should be forced to spend 7 years farming by hand like the olden days before being allowed to put their dumb opinions about what they DESERVE on the internet.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I love reading shit like this so much because while morons like this encourege a lifestyle of soulless work and slow but certain extinction of the people who maintain this shitty lifestyle

          while on the other side thirdworlders do not give a single shit about anything and do anything in their power to obtain more money and power, while having the most bottom of the barrel morality and inteligence

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a realtor
          This guy sounds like he worked for an MLM before. That's business cult talk. When you lose yourself to work it becomes all you know and you never get that work life balance even in your 30s. I knew way too many guys like that. That urge for a life hits hard, they end up drinking themselves stupid, breaking down their bodies, hating anyone who doesn't work like them, and getting so desperate for a life they knock up the wrong woman at the wrong time. They miss the 30s to balance out of life which is now impossible if you have a kid. That's how you end up with a wife who has to "discover" herself on a swingers cruise while you surf /misc/ and scream about you hate Black folk even though your best friend is one. If that sounds specific it's because I know two stupid frickers like that. Warehouse and trucking does stupid shit to people who allow it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That's how you end up with a wife who has to "discover" herself on a swingers cruise
            How do you not just immediately file for divorce at that shit?
            >hurr hurr people will hate you
            Simply tell them that she wanted to cheat on you but still keeping the benefit of your paycheck. Cut out anyone that tries to defend it still.
            >but muh money
            Before you file for divorce, have a good friend that wont frick you over and gift 90% of your wealth to them, say youll let them keep 5-10% if you have to. Then file and let the court frick you out of your 50 bucks, wait a year or so, and get your money back. Or maybe you can put all your assets in some account in secret and freeze everything, I dont know. There has to be a way to prevent something like that.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >while you surf /misc/ and scream about you hate Black folk even though your best friend is one
            Hey my best friend is only half black and he hates Black folk more than I do.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >our business is selling shoes how do we make the best shoes
    >NOOOO YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT BUSINESS. DIVIDENDS WHERE ARE MY GIBS
    >there are no gibs if we don't make better shoes you fricking moron.
    kek

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dumbest post ITT, but it is bait, so it checks out.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >video games?
    >gameplay?
    >the future of the medium?
    >I just want to make some money for God's sake

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>I just want to make some money for G*d's sake

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Please explain how you will get a return on my life savings instead of jerking off about stage 2 level 3 during the shareholder meeting.
    >Ganker: REEEE! What the frick!!! Investors are killing vidya!!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Please explain how you will get a return on my life savings instead of jerking off about stage 2 level 3 during the shareholder meeting.
      The moron invested during the Wii U era. That guy got fricked

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uh, wouldn't that be a good time? Buy low, then sell high after the Switch takes off??

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well the comment was 6 months after it launched. He probably put money into them before it was out.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That’s the time to invest moron

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're a video game company, they'll make money by selling video games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >NO ITS ALL ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE FRICK MAKING GAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
      If you know nothing about videogames to the point that you admit you dont understand them, then why the FRICK would you invest in it? Would you invest in some fricking foreign market company that sells shit you dont understand fundamentally, then get mad at them for talking about how to improve their product? If so, you're subhuman

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but investors do understand how video games work, they're the sole reason why video games shot up into being a multi-billion industry to begin with let's not kid ourselves. You think people who invest in stock should be all stock brokers first?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not him but investors do understand how video games work
          The OP literally, LITERALLY says that he does not you fricking moron
          >they're the sole reason why video games shot up into being a multi-billion industry to begin with let's not kid ourselves.
          And no, vidya got popular and then they leeched onto it like the parasites that they are. Investors dont "make" anything
          >You think people who invest in stock should be all stock brokers first?
          If you invest in stock that you know absolutely nothing about and then complain about how the company you invested in is trying to make their product better and not talking about how to hyper israelite their stock, then youre a moron. Invest in what you want, but shut your fricking mouth if you have zero to contribute. Youre a walking money bag, thats literally it. Nobody wants to hear you speak, if vidya budgets werent overblown with marketing shit you'd be dropped in a heartbeat.

          Now if Iwata was spending his time talking about how he was banging some taiwanese boy while playing golf then yea, you can say something. But dont fricking but in on the professionals doing their job. If it werent for the hard work of these homosexuals, there wouldnt be vidya in the first place.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Youre a walking money bag, thats literally it. Nobody wants to hear you speak, if vidya budgets werent overblown with marketing shit you'd be dropped in a heartbeat.
            That's literally false. The most apt comparison would be is that investors are the patrons who stand to actually risk the most upon a company's failure but immensely benefit form its success. They elect the board that appoints the CEO who has the fiduciary responsibility to fulfill the direction they see fit to steer the company. That's how BIG MONEY works.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you had to make a videogame but you had to kill either all devs or all investors on the project, what would be the correct choice?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if you had to make the choice between chopping your fingers or your forearms what would be the correct choice for the arm?
                Devs are being churned out left and right more than ever so I'd side with the investors that actually have the capital to keep the ship afloat.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Enjoy your halo infinite 2 then

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Devs are being churned out left and right more than ever so I'd side with the investors that actually have the capital to keep the ship afloat.
                Congrats, you now dont have a video game because investors dont make vidya. And if you hire some codemonkey homosexual to do it, it ends up shit and tarnishes the reputation of the product and you lose all future profits and die.
                >Devs are being churned out left and right
                Investors are just homosexuals with money and there will always be homosexuals with money. There will not always be people that are competent, know how to direct a game, know how to figure out what the consumer wants, and has the passion and dedication to do something as soul draining and monotonous as coding a fricking game for a fun and unique experience. No seriously, go try to make something right now. Feel what its like to get stuck on something simple, crawl forums and SO for fricking hours trying to figure it out, and then come to the realization that the thing wasnt working because you typo'd an extra letter or symbol. Trust me when I say its easier to find some gay with money thats willing to invest in a massive industry that churns profits.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Trust me when I say its easier to find some gay with money thats willing to invest in a massive industry that churns profits.
                I've actually been part of an actual failed business (not video games) and what you've said about investors being a dime a dozen compared to the actual conveyor belt of video game developers being made every single day is false. You can clean house and even have veteran dev talent leave and games can still be made and have proven to do sell well time and time again. But when a major investor leaves? You're fricked.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But when a major investor leaves? You're fricked.
                Less fricked when you lose the actual talent, where would nintendo be without miamoto, or konami without kojima (and yes I'm aware there were plenty of other skilled people other on their teams), and those're just 2 guys imagine if you vaped the ff7 team a week before work started

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Investors don't bring anything other than work as a bloodbank.
                Look at Squeenix.
                All the investment capital in the world and they burn it by the hundreds of millions because they have no talent anymore.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >risk the most upon a company's failure
              Please, they still have hundreds of other company to save their ass, they'll also be the first to get paid when they sell the IPs and other assets.
              The actual humans working there are the one at risk of losing everything

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hard work with the investor's fricking money you giant fricking homosexual moron. Imagine that, wanting some accountability for the spending of your fricking dollars. moron.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Imagine that, wanting some accountability for the spending of your fricking dollars
              Talking about how to improve the fricking product isnt "accountability" you fricking subhuman baboon? Congrats, you threw money at the product, that doesnt automatically make it good and make it so that the consumer will buy it you fricking moron. Should I start listing every AAA game that flopped despite investors shoveling money on to it? The reason why indies even took off is because of the short sighted bullshit you are describing.

              You're a walking sack of money, stay in your fricking lane and let the people in charge of making a good product do their fricking job if you self admit to knowing NOTHING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. Imagine being so fricking conceited and arrogant that you think you know more about making something then the fricking professionals that built the games that catapulted the industry to success in the first place. If you invested in a car company would you scream and shit your fricking pants when the people in charge of designing the car started talking about how to improve the fricking car itself to, you know, ENTICE THE FRICKING CONSUMER?

              Furthermore we are talking about NINTENDO. You know, the biggest vidya company in the world? Kinda been around for decades, makes more money in one day then you will in several lifetimes? Yea, that fricking company. Not some shitty start up, a god damn monolith of the industry that has literal decades of experience and know-how of the market. And you arrogantly presume, you have the fricking audacity to think for a second you know better than them because you happened to be born into decent generational wealth and thus could afford to invest into more shit for easy returns? No. You know fricking nothing. Shut your fricking mouth and be the good little moneybag that you are. That is your only value, nobody wants to hear you speak. Not the devs, and certainly not the consumers.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nintendo is stupid and coasts exclusively on name recognition
                The games are for little baby children
                >NOOO you don't know better than a corporation because I like them
                They are stupid because they are japanese
                They make poor decisions
                They make games that are not fun despite their number one priority is make games that are fun

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they make bad decisions I know better because-
                What are your credentials?
                >well IO made money
                Nintendo has made several million times more than you have ever made, ever. And its thanks to the people sitting across from you that you're butthurt about not spending their every waking moment bean counting for. If they were moronic bean counting dipshits like you, there would be no nintendo to invest in
                >BUT BRAND RECOGNITION
                Which denotes that they were savvy enough to make a product that consumers wanted, navigate a constantly shifting market, and stay on top of said market for decades and into the foreseeable future.

                Again, what the FRICK do you bring to the table other than being a little bit more money to fuel the monolithic money making machine known as Nintendo? Nothing. You have nothing. Your opinions are fricking worthless because you arent even good data points as a consumer since you self admit to knowing or understanding frick all about the product. Shut the frick up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Investors are the sole reason for 99.9% of vidya problems. Lootboxes, micro transactions, etc. Thats also why the indie scene exploded. If they let off the israelite gas (heh) even a little bit, the industry wouldnt be actively losing billions per year to literal who indie devs, or at least substantially less.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                gacha is not a investor problem, its a solution to income inequality where the bottom grows increasingly poorer and cant pay much for games. f2p+cashshop simply mirrors income inequality and tries to monetize the rich minority.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the frick up, Marxist.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                has frick all to do with marx. Wages not following inflation and inflation being caused to fed printing is the derailment of capitalism.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You literally just equated gacha mechanics into a malicious economic class warfare against the poor and that by participating in it, you are serving the interests of the ruling capitalist elite and their hegemony.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have serious understanding issues.
                I said poor simply cant pay for vidya so you have to target rich.

                The poorer the bottom gets the more forced you are to seek clients among the elite because only they can afford to burn money on your crap. Its public information that wages have been not keeping up with inflation for decades. So the buying power of the bottom diminished. Gacha as in fleecing the top is the solution to that - if you cant take money from poor you have to take a lot from the rich to compensate for that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize Warren Buffest said years ago classvwar does exist and the poor lost right?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Warren Buffet also said that dumb people create great opportunities so he isn't exactly a paragon of morality.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Name me an adult game.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They asked about getting capital gains and dividend returns. I.e. return on investment. Making a quality video game is a distinct topic. It is a fricking shareholder meeting so this is a completely reasonable question to ask. The fact that you typed all of that shit and don't understand that is hilarious. You will never have enough money to invest in anything. Your IQ is embarrassingly low.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not him but investors do understand how video games work

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Investors don't need to understand how video games work, they just invested in an industry that was already successful and then hired the right people who understand human psychology to implement more exploitative monetization which in turn increased profits massively.
          None of this has anything to do with video games.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >None of this has anything to do with video games.
            It does, the moneyed interest in video games has all to do with video games. What, do you think video games would be as successful as they are if people didn't see them as a worthwhile investment?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              The games would be better but the userbase would be smaller since excluding moronic cattle wouldnt be haram. Whenever investors get in the product quality drops to squeeze more profit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The games would be better but the userbase would be smaller
                That's definitely unrealistic because video games are tangled with the tech sector more than ever.

                What are you talking about? Do you think all the people who invested in tulips in the mid 1630s were tulip growing experts?
                Do you think all the people who invested in railroads in the 1840s were railroading experts?
                Most of them knew jack shit about the topic. Line went up though, and they made lots of money until they didn't.

                No, I'm saying you don't need to be a video game developer to invest in a video game company. You and I are agreeing with one another except for the part where you think that knowledge is solely divided between expert and dunce luck.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >video games are tangled with the tech sector more than ever.
                you repeat your phrase as it has any meaning while its completely beside the point.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you attributing opinions to me that I have never claimed to hold? My claim was that investors don't need to understand how video games work at all. Also that they hired people (experts) who developed more predatory monetization schemes for them to make profitability go up.

                None of this has anything to do with video games. The same monetization tricks work for crypto, casinos, and many many other products. In fact if you actually understand and like video games, you'll be unsuitable to invest and maximize profitability in the video games industry because you'll not be comfortable with releasing broken products and fricking your customers.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's what I'm saying too that's why I said we were both are technically agreeing with one another.
                >None of this has anything to do with video games
                Except for this part. It has everything to do with it, that's how an industry goes.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                m8. The investors don't fricking give a shit about video games, it's not their job to care about that. Their job is to hire people who know what they are doing to maximize profit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The investors don't fricking give a shit about video games
                >not giving a shit about your investments
                >but go out of their way to elect the people that know how to deliver well
                You've already lost me, that means they do care.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              What are you talking about? Do you think all the people who invested in tulips in the mid 1630s were tulip growing experts?
              Do you think all the people who invested in railroads in the 1840s were railroading experts?
              Most of them knew jack shit about the topic. Line went up though, and they made lots of money until they didn't.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          wtf i hate investors now

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a video game company is talking about video games in order to sell more VIDEO GAMES
      >WHY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES DON'T THEY KNOW ABOUT TRANCHES?

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically thread relevant:

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >surname of CEO is literally fink
      The poetry writes itself

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      BlackRock is a weird one because the only thing that even sparked attention to it was a greentext from /misc/ making a few rounds on Ganker, but people like to scapegoat it for all the blacks in vidya as if the companies that engage in that shit used to be good in the last 10-15 years minimum, as if if it wasn't for BlackRock then they wouldn't have added black people. And what would they do if the AAA companies didn't add blacks in their AAA games, would they just slurp it up? Buy the game, same generic bland gameplay and all? Do they even care about games?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They would receive a lower rating for investors to invest in. And yes they do care about games because games make money.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No I mean the anons on Ganker.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            We voice out actual protests and someday actually finish the games we are working on WHICH YOU SHOULD BE TUNING TO THIS Ganker3.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I tuned into Ganker3 once.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                My game will be there, it won't be out yet when Ganker3 arrivesIt may NEVER KEK but I hope you'll enjoy the trailer.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I might try to watch it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        People are severely overestimating Blackrock and ESG. ESG is green washing almost buzzword metric. Blackrock tired to capitalize on it since they believed that higher EsG ment less government oversight. Blackrock was only able to do this because they had enough liquid cash to infuse in the market after 2008 crash. Unfortunately NPC corpos and hedgies/investors seeing nothing but the numbers and trees from the forest belive this is an easy metric to gage risk.
        At the end of the day it doesn't matter how many trannies you hire if you don't make a profit. Which is why now.of recent ESG is given less of a shit.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The moment your business goes public is same second every ~~*interest*~~ starts to slowly poison and israelitefy your IP. It will be distilled to the point that risk aversion will be so bad that even changing a single texture will require 4 to 5 studies and focus groups. It's why modern goyslop games and movies are so awful and uninspiring, they are directed with insane amount of microcontroll and formual.

    The only way to get rid of investors to have a means of raising capital that doesn't put interest in the hands of private entites.

    Also most people don't realize that the "investors" in our clown world are not individuals like you and me. They are entirely compromised by israelite lord hedgefunds and/or venture/vulture capital firms which they themselves are private corporations like Blackrock that basically run our economy.
    These hedgefunds and VCs often do more then write angry shareholder letters ( which in this case to Nintendo is a , "better start towing the line warning"). They often use legal means and will sue corps that don't make capital gains at all costs their no.1 priority, meaning even if a corporation wants to not act like a greedy israelite they cannot or risk having the entire board sued by by shareholders (aka hedge funds). They can also do other shit like manipulate stocks/sell of shares to force corporations to tow the line, or in Blackrocks case are influential enough to create their own rating metrics like ESG.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or make it so that even if it goes public, you own majority stake in the organization, such that at any point you can simply override any actions that steer the company in the wrong direction. Zuckerberg did that with Facebook. Though its a publicly traded company, he owns like 51-55% majority voting stake in the company and will do so in perpetuity. As such, shareholders are along for the ride but have no way to steer the ship.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They often use legal means and will sue corps that don't make capital gains at all costs their no.1 priority,
      How in the frick is that in any way legal lmao, unless its literally stated in contract or you promised something explicitly or some other shit, you cant sue someone for not being greedy enough. Or if there is a way to do that, Im not aware of it. How would you even prove such a thing? How would you quantify someone putting in their full effort compared to say, 80%?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but there can be shareholder proxy wars that happen if a company doesn't do what a shareholder wants to do.
        Blackrock for example said it'd fight shareholder wars if a company or other shareholders didn't want to lean in ESG or do other decisions. basically internal takeover if you will.

        >Investors have recognized that BlackRock's big ESG push, one of the top priorities of its CEO Larry Fink, will add to its bottom line. Fink has warned companies that BlackRock invests in to either adopt ESG standards or face pressure from the big money manager in so-called proxy battles where investors vote on corporate governance matters.
        >https://www.foxbusiness.com/financials/larry-finks-blackrock-benefit-esg

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thats not sueing though, thats shareholder frickery. Just own more than 50% of shares at all times and tell blackrock to suck a fat wiener. Record all of what transpired, then publish what they did to every single news outlet you can find. You might not have as much money, but you have integrity and you arent beholden to some homosexuals trying to manhandle you into some political bullshit. Whats the point of being the head of your company if you arent the one that calls the fricking shots?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah good luck fighting the 4th branch of the US government with virtually unlimited money and influence.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's nothing to "fight". If you own more then 50% of the shares you can tell them to take a hike and you own the company. And even almost nobody runs the story, just throw it to the youtuber drama farmers and twitter and everything else and have a fricking field day with it. Even if only 3 people learn about what the frick these homosexuals are pulling, thats 3 more people that will be wary and not get fricked over. What the frick is blackrock going to do about any of that? "hurr these guys are transphobic bigots!". Ok here's my side of the story, do your research. If you take their shit at face value, I dont really want to do business with you.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Man I though ESG was just a nothing burger that people were blowing out of proportion but it's only been getting worse.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            They're working through to mandate it through SEC and all financial transactions. even private companies

            >BlackRock encourages SEC to mandate ESG-related disclosures for private companies (2021)
            https://ballotpedia.org/BlackRock_encourages_SEC_to_mandate_ESG-related_disclosures_for_private_companies_(2021)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually illegal to care about your workers
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
        >the Michigan Supreme Court held that Henry Ford had to operate the Ford Motor Company in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a charitable manner for the benefit of his employees or customers

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would hire someone to beat the shit out of every homosexual that ruled for this.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick man

            Whoever ruled that out deserve to burn in hell

            >nooo you don't have to serve people who gave you capital. you have to serve your workers and customers
            underage

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you have to serve your workers and customers
              Yes

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                t.neet who will never have capital to invest

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >brooo you have to participate in this system infested greedy sociopaths
                >you have to gamble on the stock market or you'll never be rich
                >you can't just live a normal working class life and advocate for the betterment of the people
                >you have to worship corporations like I do bro
                Eat a dick

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              how does the boot taste, fricker

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You realize these investors are also customers like you and me right? they buy things from other companies.
                If I put money in a company I expect them to maximize my investment, not put their staff and customers above me.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                when I pay for a service I expect them to provide it while making sure the staff is not abused to do it
                idk might just be an empathy thing

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, your first duty is to your local community. The idea that a company's first and sole responsibility is to increase profits to their investors is what made this ridiculous race to the bottom. Even ignoring the labor and consumer sides businesses are now purely formed for a meme of infinite growth or short term ransacking both of which are fricking awful an all levels.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would anyone invest at all if companies don't care about growing an investor money? that'll lead to capital flight.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would anyone invest at all if companies don't care about growing an investor money?
                You know there is a middle point between operating at a loss for charity and abandoning all ethics and morals to maximize short-term profit.
                The problem here is that these fricking goblins are not satisfied with the middle point. Hearing that a company is trying to set themselves up for steady, long term profits instead of unsustainable explosive growth would give your average investor a fricking aneurysm. They want companies to abandon every last scrap of ethics and morals they have for the sake of turning a profit because they're fricking GREEDY. THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. YOU FRICKING moron. WE HAVE FRICKING KNOWN THIS SINCE BIBLICAL TIMES YOU STUPID FRICK.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              And why are you pretending its mutually exclusive you fricking homosexual? You can be decent to your workers AND get returns.
              >BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH
              Greedy homosexual, burn in hell

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick man

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whoever ruled that out deserve to burn in hell

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You either become a private company that doesn't allow investors or have the investors sign a binding contract that they are not allowed to influence game design.

    Unfortunately investors are going to kill vidya, as in mostly AAA. Fortunately however, this industry might need another video game crash. All we can do is wait and see.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >actively blocking moronic shareholder from shitting up games
    Absolutely based, leave game design to professionals.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why exactly would one want a yacht anyways? Let alone two or more?

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theres lot of investors that go in gut a company put the CEOs make lot of money the funding group lose out the company then collapses. The people.lose jobs. I think we should form a gang or group. What we do is protest and just plan harass these CEOs so they never touch games

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    OR you guys could make your own indie team, be savvy and thoughtful with the money, know your limits and slowly buidl your capital and competence.

    Investors want to release too early, be rgeedy and shit, but unaccounted for devs who can't carry themselves would spend all their money, spend too much time on inconsequential shit and take 10 years to release anything.
    People who can't carry themselves need someone to whip them and push them to give them the motivation to focus on important stuff to meet the deadlines.

    Literally nothing prevents you from learning how to manage a business, team up with smart people and use your brain to ssnuff out the sociopaths and corporate spies, no one prevents you from selling your indie game, make more money, improve your game, make good games, get a good reputation and making a kickstarter, no one prevents you from making it big.

    BUT WE KNOW WHAT GOING TO HAPPEN, once you are successful, you will fricking SELL your company, leave with the cash and the company will be ruined. It's YOU, YOU people are homosexuals, and WE are homosexuals too, we get what we fricking deserve.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no one prevents you from making it big.
      Everything is against you from making it big. Running a business, even as small as a local ma and pa shop that sells homemade cookies and deserts is harder than it sounds and where failure usually means bankruptcy.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to ask yourselves the question: How do you stop people from cashing out? The moneyed incentive is a pretty damn good incentive.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      moral + smart + hard working people, a rare combination, but these kind of people with this kind of drive are probably more focused on making world peace an actual thing than making fricking video games, so you re left with hedonists who wiill never resist the sirens of a billion

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >moral + smart + hard working people
        You mean suckers that don't know or are socially prevented to jump ship if the cracks start appearing.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          wtf are you talking about schizo, you feel targeted, your ego is wounded?

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hurr durr how do we stop businessmen from maximizing profits and minimizing risk???
    you can't if they've found a template that sells well, moron
    >hurr durr how do we stop investors from killing vidya???
    don't buy shitty games, moron
    >but hurr durr businessmen care about video games!
    no, they don't! lol! they only care about selling a good PRODUCT, not a good VIDEO GAME
    a good PRODUCT is one that makes them a lot of money, not necessarily one that is a good VIDEO GAME
    >buh buh buh
    you literally can't do anything about it
    you will eat goyslop and you will like it
    and the reason why you will eat goyslop is:
    1. you are a moron and buy shitty games
    2. 99% of gamers are morons and buy shitty games
    3. any time a publisher mis-steps, it takes a minimal improvements for them to be "so back, bros" in the eyes of moron gamers (99%), and so any game they release after their frick-up will be seen as a redemption arc, in other words you can't do anything, you will eat goyslop, and you will continue to whine about goyslop

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because shareholders are just discussing the nature of the commodity they've invested in. What, you think they're all gamers or something? It's the same shit with all shareholders everywhere.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You should never invest in something that you do not have acute knowledge in.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i understand nothing about this industry
      >i am mad about you talking about working in this industry
      >can i get my billions nooooooowww

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Capitalism isn't moronic. What's moronic, to me, is the people who benefited all their lives from it and turn around and demand we blow up society because they read a headline on the internet. You are a failure at life.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something something gas chambers and ovens.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Other way to prevent selling is to have a team that works together and several of these that own the company so one guy can't just ruin everything.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kill them first?

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kill investors, behead investors, roundhouse kick investors into the concrete

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What, exactly, is Ganker complaining about? Please help me understand.

    Both parties entered this agreement. Are you saying Nintendo should be able to break the agreement, or that Nintendo shouldn't be able to make the agreement in the first place?

    Because this thread just seems like this meme to me

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this place is filled with ignorant manchildren that weren't educated on how business in the real world works nor are they curious enough to want to know. they'd rather work in their comfort level i.e. throwing around mental midget conspiracy theories because those are easier to digest for their peabrains that have atrophied from consooming too many chinese cartoons

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a moron. You don't need to go spend 4+ years and 70k on a business degree to see that the industry that runs our hobby has been completely overtaken by corporate greed and obsession with unlimited growth. You fricking narcissistic midwits can't understand that the majority of people are smarter and more perceptive than the moronic ecelebs on your Twitter timeline say they are.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >strawmanning
          >loads of projection
          let me know when you got something of substance, little dude

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >buzzwords
            >buzzwords
            2016 was the worst thing to ever happen to this site.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >man, 2007 consolewars ruined the site
              >actually it was the exploding yellow van
              >actually it was really boxxy and other girlgays
              >actually it was project chanology
              >actually it was piccolo dick
              >actually it was the australian mod dox
              >actually it was feelsguy and /LULZ/
              >actually it was gamergate
              >actually it was people posting pepe edits
              >actually it was people posting snoyjak edits
              >actually it was the 2016 election
              >actually it was
              >actually it
              >actually
              >actually
              >actually
              >actually
              >actually
              >actually

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >actually it was people posting snoyjak edits
                >actually it was the 2016 election
                $0yjack was nowhere near as pervasive as it was until the election. Holy shit it was everywhere. Worse than pepe. Every thread. Every fricking thread at least 5 unfunny homosexuals posting the same fricking template over and over.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                actually it was spurdo

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You better be joking. Spurdo is great.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                cancer was perhaps never good but progressing stages are still increasingly worse

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no dude just ignore that scummy shit like endless dlc, making incomplete games to patch later, microtransaction, loot boxes, online subscriptions getting steadily shittier than when they were free, rampant shilling shit where they pay off reviewers and influencers for good ratings, etc happened all within the past 15ish years
            Actual business graduate here, you’re fricking moronic and don’t have an argument. Oh for that matter having a business degree is fricking useless and I learned nothing because it’s 98% obvious shit that you can glean from simple observation, just dressed up in fancy terminology. It’s not hard in the slightest, some people are just in observant morons who are mystified by something as simple as target marketing. Simple observation shows the vidya landscape is awash in this bullshit and it didn’t used to be this way. For fricks sake anon, when was the last time you played a demo or something? Remember those? Oh that’s right, because some marketing butthole figures out it was way most cost effective to dupe morons into looking at a pretty cinema game than actually making a good playable game to try yourself.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      investors hold companies at ransome. sales dont even matter anymore. it's all about following ESG code to get investors, whomst have unlimited funds from the goverment and dont care about ROI. All they want is total control and domination, hence virtually every public company spews SJW shit and vidya sucks now. It's more communism than capitalism, so your pic is ironic.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The complaint is about some moron with more dollars than sense whose understand of investment is that "i put da muny in, i get big muny out", with zero understanding of the specific industry that he invested in or how a company actually functions when it comes to perpetuating itself.
      An investor like the one in the OP would be happy for Nintendo to burn itself down within the week if it gave him a big pay out in the short term. Video games do not exist to him as anything more than a means to an end of making money. Nintendo here is interchangeable with a steel mill, social media company, shipping company, or restaurant chain. Every one of those are just means to ends for enriching himself and there is zero care given to the end product, future of the industry, or anything else.

      That kind of investor who combines wealth and extreme ignorance is common. And their brainless greed is extremely deleterious to the state of any industry where they're a significant portion of the finance capital.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protest the stock market. Make it illegal. There is no need for it to exist in the current age, it does more harm than good. It's gambling for poor people and circlejerking for rich people.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The stock market is how they enslave companies. If one corp gets funding and another doesnt they can undercut the other til insolvency, then the funded corp has monopoly but is in debt of the investors and needs to serve their interests.Entire market fricked.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Viewpoints of capital gain and dividents
    I hate Capitalists and I hate that their world allows nothing else then profits.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    we’re too late, it’s over

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Capitalism
    >BUT COMMUNISM IS WORSE
    Frick it too
    BURN BOTH OF THEM TO THE GROUND

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I'm thinking anyone at a vidya company whose priorities aren't "let's put a reasonable amount of resources toward making a good game that will sell a lot because it's enjoyable" can hang themselves and watch their empty funeral that no one showed up to from the afterlife.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have to understand that pulling a Jim Shooter doesn't magically make your company sell more. You think video game companies don't have it in their interest to make games enjoyable? The frick kind of world do you live in?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I honestly don't mind so much that they prioritize profits overall, I just think they need to stop b***hing about it since their tactics are always a hundred times more underhanded than anything fans do in response to underwhelming products, barring fringe cases like people hacking companies and leaking early builds of games.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You think video game companies don't have it in their interest to make games enjoyable? The frick kind of world do you live in?
        The real world? It's in their interest but their priorities are clearly not that. It's the monetization system, the tackled on multiplayer, the genre shift even if your developers have no experience or want to do it in the first place just to chase a trend that seems more profitable. So yeah, resource allocation is all fricked up.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of investors, how did that gamestonks thing pan out?

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should stock trading even be legal in the first place?

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >invest in boats
    >they keep talking about buoyancy
    AHHHHHH HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans are a mistake

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    modern financial theory says to investors and bankers that what the company does and makes does not matter at all, not one bit, they are completely fungible. All that matters is cash flow, and your job is to maximize how much cash flow you get through any means possible. Needless to say this is a viewpoint that is inherently israeli, although lots of greedy Gentiles have got in on it. It's a complete disaster and led to the collapse in wages relative to productivity, mass immigration to collapse wages, the leveraged buyouts of the 80s that completely destroyed tons of strong, viable companies, the outsourcing of the 1990s that killed towns across the Midwest, and so forth.

    The Christian view is that these different companies have a primary job to build something and give it to society, along with employing people at a fair family wage, because labor is the source of all value.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe you can give me your opinion on that too. See post above, to maximize cash flow.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        the point of a company is not to "maximize cash flow." What ends up happening in a "CF maximizing" economy is endless amounts of DEBT and USURY as that is the easy way to maximize cash flow. The point of a company is actually to build something that makes society better in some way, and also to employ people and pay them enough to take care of their families. They should have investors as, essentially, partners who believe in the mission.

        Again this is the israeli vs. Christian view of the economy. I know most goyim, including myself for most of my life, fully internalized the israeli view but that is because that is the only message we get.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2 investors are hiking a trail
      >The first says to the second: "Ill' give you a hundred bucks to eat that pile of cow shit"
      >With great struggle ther second investor manages to eat it and receives the hundred bucks
      >A few minutes later, looking for revenge, the second investor sees another pile of cow shit and offers the same deal
      >"100 bucks if you also it eat!"
      >Trying to earn back his money he accepts the bet and eats it
      >A few minutes later one of the investors says to the other:
      >"Did we both just ate cow shit for nothing?"
      >"No" answers the other "we increased the GDP by 200$!"
      This supposed joke is now a reality in the west, an entire economy build on making it more difficult on actually producing products, the largest american industries are insurance, Law, finance and advertisement
      Nothing is being actually produced, just imaginary numbers that continue to go up

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've also thought about a corresponding business idea for a new game concept, for a special group of players and away from the hero and battle - royal trends to traditionall core gameplay.

    But the question is, will the attention be paid if I send a corresponding GDD or pitch..

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do YOU know everything about the companies and industries that you have invested in? Of course not. You don't care about that shit. All that matters is how big your returns are.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but I'm not gonna invest in a vineyard and then complain when I sit in on a meeting and they're talking about how to produce better wine.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So let me see if I have this correct:

    >Game company makes good games
    >Games sell well, people want new games
    >New games require bigger budgets
    >Company goes public because that's business 101
    >Investor israelites with no knowledge of games barge in
    >"ADD TWO Black folk, MAKE IT A LIVE SERVICE", etc.
    >Company can't back out due to binding contracts, honorabu japuhknees
    >Budgets get overinflated, investors don't care, muh double decker yacht is more important
    >Company forgets how to make games because investors won't STFU
    >New game comes out a mish-mash of ESG good boy points
    >Outlets give it 10/10 even though it sucks
    >Fans of old game give it 0/10 because it's an affront to God
    >Normalgays buy it in droves because they're Black personcattle
    >Company learns nothing, investors move from discussing yachts to EVs, rinse and repeat until the Demiurge appears

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much dead on. Down to the rise of the Demiurge. Yup.

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    once you go public your death is inevitable

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    A start would be to start caring developers that actually innovate, unlike Nintendo that just sits on it's war-chest churning out the same shit over and over again, at nauseum.
    Nips, like the other Asians, are incapable of innovation. They can only put their own spin on what others have done before and better.
    Hence Nintendo, western ideas with a coat of brightly coloured, anime-accented paint on it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      meds, nintendo is literally leader in innovation and gets shit on for their whakky shit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nintendo is literally leader in innovation
        Pic related.
        They merely have a monopoly on autism.
        There have been no real competitors to one of Nintendo's proprietary platforms until the Steam Deck, which utterly blows the switch out of the water.
        Nintendo don't innovate, they just throw inane shit at the wall. Sometimes it sticks like the Wii, but most of the time it falls on it's face. Regardless of the outcome they always throw away their "innovations" to chase the next fad. That's what they're actually doing, by the way. Trying to start the next fad. This is literally the company that made Pokemon, the franchise that inarguably has stagnated the most of any that still exists.
        Give me one example of Nintendo "innovating".
        Protip: you can't.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >trying new waggle shit is not innovate
          >wiener goblin steam deck
          yeah totally not biased

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >trying new waggle shit is not innovate
            It isn't. Which is why all Wiis and their waggle sticks are now where they belong, in the fricking garbage.
            Motion controls were a fad. If they weren't they'd still be using them as a primary selling point. But they aren't. Because it was a shitty fad. Like Pokemon. You mouthbreathing spastic.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >starts insulting cause got no winning argument
              alright moron

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >disregards my points about the Wii and it's waggle "innovation" being forgotten, dead and buried
                >sticks on the deserved insults like the thin-skinned homosexual he is
                >claims "muh ad-hominem" and assumes victory
                Nintentoddler moronation, everybody.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                love how easily riled up you are, keep defending Steam Deck homosexual

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >had to get images cause mad
                lol

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >complaining about reaction images
                This is peak zoom-zoom.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >old man uses zoomer memes to complain about zoomers on vidya
                go casket shopping

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >YOU ARE OLD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
                The last refuge of the battered zoomer.
                lmao I've done you

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                between kids commenting on vidya and your old corpse acting moronic here its obvious who is more pathetic. Especially for defending a fricking console. Get a live before you die seriously

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he's still replying

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >zoomer memes
                They dont exist, they just bastardize milenial memes made over a decade ago but shittier. My favorite is the low res white space shit that you gays keep doing because you're too tech illiterate to format picture correctly, then you act like its "ironic" and creative when its literally a shittier demotivation poster from 20 years ago. Also your slang is somehow stupider than 90s slang which is saying something.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                creativity is actively discouraged.This board itself is an example. Fun threads get regularly deleted before porn. How the frick can you have something interesting when it gets banned and coomer content pushed to front?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its the opposite, coomer content is more plentiful today because the state of vidya is dogshit and any meanful discussion is drowned out by zoomers spamming soiface because they think that 4chinz is meant to be a place of mindless shitposting when it was always a place for social morons to be passionate and autistic about their hobbies without the bullshit that comes with identity weighing you down. And yes, its zoomers pushing this. We didnt have constant eceleb and twitter screencap shit before zoomers began heavily using the site for starters. And Zoomers arent any more creative outside of Ganker either, dont give me that shit. Ofcourse people are posting coomer shit more. Because a lot of people fap out of boredom and/or procrastination. If Ganker was as engaging as it used to be, aka when the site was primarily millennials and Gen X, you wouldnt see so much of it. Its a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Well that and social media making it easier than ever to consume porn but thats another topic.

                I dont entirely blame you though, you gays got brainwashed legitimately. If anything its Gen X's fault for not raising you right. Not that my generation looks like it will do any better with Gen alphas.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Coomer, or coombrain is legitimately a zoomer made term however.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Specifically a discord raid thing likely by zoomers. They are getting mad at Ganker being boring after they shit up up for years to the point that its just a shitpost board, because they are failed normalgays and normalgays are boring. Weird social morons are the interesting ones but theyve been pushed out as the normalgays move in to try to claim the site and spam it with their creatively bankrupt shit that they stole from krautchan

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >because they are failed normalgays and normalgays are boring
                This. The users of this site are in some fricking weird Twilight Zone where they clearly aren't normagays because they're sperging out about dumb shit on the internet but at the same time they aggrandize the normalgay lifestyle of working 40 hours a week, getting a gf, going to bars and parties, and "being a part of society" even though said society wouldn't fricking touch them with a 10 foot pole.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its always funny seeing them take the "chad" meme seriously and not as being tongue in cheek when the old joke on Ganker was that being a non-virgin made you a loser. As if an actual chad would sit around and spam soifaces on a taiwanese knitting forum.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It would be better to keep a game related thread with some trash posters than delete and keep the 20x coomer threads occupying the top which is whats currently going on. Im honestly suprised this thread lived so long because i saw previous vidya biz deleted fast.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >with some trash posters
                Its not "some", its a legion of gays that spam wojaks and ban evade in the span of seconds. The solution would be to remove phone posting privileges since zooms are too tech illiterate to ban evade on anything not-mobile related, but we all know that asiaticmoot wont do that because he wants sheckles. I think you gays dont understand that shit doesnt just suddenly happen out of thin air. All the good discussions and fun threads didnt suddenly get replaced by constant fapbait threads over night. Its because thats the only shit that gets traction. Because actual good posters arent obsessed morons that dedicate their life to spamming shit. The number of zoomers that do this tipped past the threshold of the number of good posters that actually want to talk about vidya can keep up with, this is the result. Its not coom threads in and of itself, because theyve always been around since Ganker's inception. Its a problem now because of over abundance.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers love porn on Twitter and Pixiv though

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >though
                frfr

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              this anon never mario party'd with a bunch of hot asian girls air jacking the wiimote

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gotta give it to israelitetendo, they manage to find new way to sell garbage by the boatload.
          >Gamecube is a flop because it's shit
          >Sell the gamecube again but this time aimed at people that hate video games
          >Sell over a 100 millions copies
          Same shit with all their handheld, switch included, god awful outdated hardware but somehow they still manage to sell it

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This guy gets it.
            This is what Nintendo are actually good at.
            Marketing.
            Not innovation.
            Not carefully managing their intellectual property.
            Not developing actually good videogames.
            Marketing. And you're all lapping it up like the autistic dumb-asses you are. Fricking kek.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >somehow they still manage to sell it
            because they put videogames on it

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the gamecube was an amazing console technologically, the PS2 was a fat stinky turd in comparison. it failed because nintendo misinterpreted the market trends and couldn't adapt.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah it was amazing that nintendo put yet another fricking gimmick in their console that made developing 3rd party games for it a fricking nightmare.
              What the frick were they smoking when they came up with that disc size?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nips, like the other Asians, are incapable of innovation.
      What you just described is the creative-risk adversion cycle and happens to literally everything, not just asians. Hence why the west keeps churning out the same shitty super hero movies or soulless reboots. Disney, the largest western company in the entertainment industry and the world, is currently just shitting out moronic CGI and live actual adaptations of their older works. Dumb westaboo.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What you just described is the creative-risk adversion cycle
        No, what I just described is the east's inability to innovate, because they are collectivist bug-men that only know how to fall in line and mimic each other.
        Literally every single major export from Japan other than their cultural food exports is something they've ripped off the west.
        Their entire anime industry only exists because they tried to rip off Mickey Mouse. And I'll be specific, they were trying to rip off Mickey Mouse. Not western animation as a whole, just Mickey Mouse. That's why all anime characters have those giant moronic eyes.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >No, what I just described
          Is exactly what is happening in the west too you dumb fricking homosexual. The same shitty reboots and raping of old works just shittier. Again, Disney is doing what you are describing right fricking now. And the west is actually doing it worse than the east, considering that the american comic industry is dying despite super hero movies propping it up and they are constantly losing to shit like BnHA and Demon Slayer in graphic novel sales, which is fricking embarrassing.

          Stupid westaboo homosexual.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The west making capeshit is the same as Nintendo throwing it's "innovations" in the trash over and over
            >No please focus on my shitty strawman and not the fact I have no counter argument.
            You are a moron and the two things are not comparable. I'd tell you to come back with an argument but that clearly isn't going to happen so why don't you just frick off back where you came from and take your plebbit spacing with you, zoomer.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it doesnt count
              The west has been recycling the same fricking bullshit for over a decade and/or shoveling political homosexualry into literally everything, to the point that the average american consumer below the age of 40 is starting to consume more anime/manga than american stories. Cope all you want to, you are describing what the west does to a tee. It happens across the entire entertainment industry, not just asia. Dumb, dumb westaboo moron.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dumb ass, you're sitting here trying to use Disney/Marvel's absolute dogshit to excuse Nintendo's absolute dogshit.
                Your argument is literally
                >IT'S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT REEEEEEEEEEEE
                Again, the Nintentoddler's complete lack of self awareness is on full display. You really can't help yourself can you, poor little zoomer.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Your argument is literally
                My argument is that it happens across ALL industries, not just asian ones. No, it isnt ok when nintendo does it or anyone else for that matter, but its a trend seen across every country with a notable entertainment industry. You were the one trying to pin it on only asians/nintendo, as if we didnt get a million brown cawlodooty clones in the 00s. And Im using Disney because its the only thing that can rival nintendo. Would you rather me use western vidya shit like Xbox? Are we going to pretend Fifa and Madden arent literally the same shit over and over every year? Are you going to soiface about Messi kicking the funny zebra ball again but get mad that nintendo rehashes their biggest IPs too? Really?

                Dont pick a fight and then puss out when you start losing. Oh, and since you defaulted to muh zoomer, here is a picture that is likely older than you are.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >My argument is that it happens across ALL industries
                No, you cherry-picked Disney and tried to use them to hand-wave Nintendo's behavior.
                >its a trend seen across every country with a notable entertainment industry
                We were talking about Nintendo. What point could you possibly be trying to make by bringing up something else, other than it being OK when Nintendo does it. Watching you backpedal is hilarious.
                >Dont pick a fight and then puss out when you start losing
                You literally have no argument lmao, other than typical Nintentoddler screeching.
                I've done you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, you cherry-picked Disney and tried to use them to hand-wave Nintendo's behavior.
                Because they are the biggest western representation of western media you disingenuous homosexual. How the frick is it "cherry picking" when something like 80% of movie profits in 2019 were Disney related and the majority of it is super hero rehash movie number 127836, which is inherently material that has been rehashed for decades? Do you know what "cherrypicking" means you fricking moron?
                >We were talking about Nintendo.
                Oh? Lets look at the post

                A start would be to start caring developers that actually innovate, unlike Nintendo that just sits on it's war-chest churning out the same shit over and over again, at nauseum.
                Nips, like the other Asians, are incapable of innovation. They can only put their own spin on what others have done before and better.
                Hence Nintendo, western ideas with a coat of brightly coloured, anime-accented paint on it.

                >Nips, like the other Asians, are incapable of innovation.
                Looks like its more than just nintendo, huh? And I said that that shit happens in the west and you got asspained over it. Now you're trying to revise history because you're probably realizing how stupid your claim is. If you just said "nintendo keeps rehashing shit" and left it at that, I wouldnt have said anything because they are doing just that. You fricked up by trying to push some narrative that nips cant innovate and only the west can when we have literally watched the western entertainment industry turn to complete shit in the last decade due to rehashes and creative bankruptcy. YOU are the one backpedaling.
                >You literally have no argument lmao
                My argument is that every fricking entertainment industry is going to shit because people are rehashing the same thing over and over, so it is stupid to say its just nips. You have no argument against that other to claim I'm "cherry picking" by using the largest, most dominant western media producer as examples as to why that isnt the case.

                Also cute how you immediately stopped calling me a zoomer after I posted that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit you really are moronic. I can't believe you bothered to type all that shit lmao.
                >Oh? Lets look at the post

                A start would be to start caring developers that actually innovate, unlike Nintendo that just sits on it's war-chest churning out the same shit over and over again, at nauseum.
                Nips, like the other Asians, are incapable of innovation. They can only put their own spin on what others have done before and better.
                Hence Nintendo, western ideas with a coat of brightly coloured, anime-accented paint on it. (You)
                You mean my post which was talking about Nintendo? Where I extrapolated the reason for them being shit, but still ultimately was about Nintendo? With a first paragraph that reads:
                >A start would be to start caring developers that actually innovate, unlike NINTENDO
                is that the post you wanted to highlight for everyone?
                Well, thanks for just showing everyone what a moron you are for me.
                You wrote out all that shit and still don't have an argument.
                Let me humor you. Let's say your right, all of the media in the world is shitty and rehashed. How does that excuse Nintendo?
                Oh that's right, it doesn't.
                Because it isn't ok when Nintendo does it, you absolute mouth-breathing spastic.
                Don't reply to this unless you can actually think of an argument that I haven't already destroyed.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You mean my post which was talking about Nintendo?
                And then you said nips, which I corrected and you got mad at
                >Let me humor you. Let's say your right, all of the media in the world is shitty and rehashed. How does that excuse Nintendo?
                Oh that's right, it doesn't.
                It doesnt moron, I said this several times. But to claim this isnt happening in the west and that this is a nip problem is moronic, full stop.
                >you have no argument
                >I destroyed you!!!
                Yea I think we're done here. I gotta go take a shit anyway.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And then you said nips, which I corrected and you got mad at
                lmao, this didn't happen or you'd be linking to it.
                >Still no argument
                As expected.
                I've done you. Move along.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I literally greentexted it to you, are you illiterate?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go buy another Call of Duty.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    within ten years AI will allow you to generate your own games or any entertainment you desire

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >within X AI will
      AI will not turn you into a non-lazy homosexual, sorry. You can use AI to help code your game right now, its never been easier. And yet there is not much of a difference in indie vidya being produced. What are you waiting for? Where is the renaissance of new vidya? Why havent you made Gassing israelites Simulator, Gassing israelites Simulator 2: Electric Boogaloo, and Gassing israelites Simulator 3: The Final Solution?

      The answer is that you're a lazy homosexual "ideas" guy that cant transform his thoughts into something practical. Your ideas are vague and dont connect, you dont know how or are too complacent to direct. If you did you would have already been making a game well before AI was a thing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        based realist putting these AIjeets in their place. it infuriates me how many of them think AI will let them create whatever they want with 0 effort and it will free them from "the israelites". homie, the israelites made this fricking technology! the israelites are giving you free access (for now) to this tech. at some point this tech will become prohibitively expensive. it's all funded by VC israelites and they WILL want a return on their investments eventually.

        i can't wait for that day. all the homosexual NEETs on this board that thought AI will solve everything will be screeching and shitting and pissing their pants to a monumentous degree

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    But I thought ancap was good and anything less was commie?

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >10 years fast forward, after iwata's death, now shareholders allow dlcs, paid internet and shitty cashgrab games
    and yet tendies still eat their nipslop

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't stop them anymore, thanks to blackrock giving developers monetary incentives to push their agenda.

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe Im naive but I dont understand why someone investing should have any say in a products development? I dont care if the guy put in multimillions into the team, why should they have any say? They arent the devs, producers, etc, behind the project, just the funds. If someone is developing a game, or a car, or whatever, why should the person bankrolling it have a say in what to do with it? You know what I mean? You invest or put your money into X team or X company because you believe that product will earn you more money back because you think it will sell a lot and give a return. If you have no engineering backround why should you have a say in how a turbine is built?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the investors are basically the owners of the whole operation.
      If you spend your own money to hire a carpenter to work on your house, sure it would be in your best interest to let him do his job properly. But if you're moronic, you might say "I'm paying the bills here so I decide how my house looks like" and make him choose between building something stupid that'll collapse, or being fired.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why should investors have a say on the product
      Pretty sure it's mostly "Don't portray nuclear energy as a healthy alternative" or "There must always be a black person in the main cast" type of push (sociological, environmental, moral issues, etc.) not EXACTLY how it's done but just that it has to be there. Keep in mind the shareholders are the ones electing who gets to be on the board of directors that best represent their interests, then the board are the ones who lay out the plans and goals for the CEO and the other officers to "make it happen". There is alot of delegation involved but it all starts with the shareholders NOT the development team.

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Chad manchild
    >The Virgin investor

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    we kill them

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always wanted to finance a game. Only a few thousands dollars. But I heard that doesn't really go far with programmers so I've never done it.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad Rockstar listened to this guy and stopped making games
    Why make new games if they are already making enough money and the investors are happy?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >already making enough money
      what the frick is "enough money"??
      speak english you fricking commie

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    a good investor would try to understand the business they are in, which means thinking of the future of video games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      investors dont invest for 10+ years. They invest to make money now. It doesnt matter if the company dies in longterm because you can pull out and swap to next company. That was EA's core bussiness model - buy brand, rape for profits, kill it, buy new brand, repeat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Shared the image with my old man who manages a fund worth several billion and this line had him seething lol. He's generally a based guy, grew up with a union father and regularly rants against shareholder primacy.

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao, why would Nintendo shareholders not be concerned about the future of video games? It's a video game company

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s amazing how many people are trying to defend it too. Imagine investing in Toyota and then being made when the Toyota execs talk about making a better product to better entice the fricking customer.

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    remember that these guys hold all the power

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember that time when an investor asked why they don’t make Nintendo branded bread?

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite ones from Nintendo meetings are the questions like "why are we talking about video games" or "why are we talking about baseball"(when Nintendo brings up the baseball team they own)

    >tfw bought NTDOY because it was neat that you could just buy a part of your favorite video game company

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop buying their goyslop, but you won't

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon this is just capitalism. Is this new to you?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >oh my god people heckin' agreeing on trades rather than killing each other over a block of cheese
      >this is just the same as israelites having no interests in the actual operations of the companies they invest in!
      Shut up homosexual.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      People who just throw their hands up and scream "capitalism" at nuanced problems are A-Grade morons. Bureaucracies are subject to corruption, incompetence, and greed. This is not new. This is not unique to capitalism or any other economic -ism that exists. Pull your head out of your ass and develop your critical thinking skills.

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man, you know what I’d do if I had a billion dollars? Exactly what I’m doing right now. Watching and laughing at old game shows like Match Game ‘72 and Password while being drunk and drawing cartoon cheesecake. Probably the most ambitious thing would be to record some albums with session musicians and learn to code to make fun arcade games that make people sweat from the sensory overload.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Personally I'd hire some good, competent people, pay them five times industry standard, and have them develop games in secret for me, mainly "knock offs" of games that went to shit, but they are actually good and shit on the current iterations thats being shoveled out. Paper Mario, for example. I would have them develop this paper mario game and make sure it was fricking great. I wouldnt let them tell anyone about it, I would keep my mouth shut. Then, when its finished I would sit on it until Nintendo announced their new piece of shit Paper Mario game that sucks ass. And I'd still sit on it and sit on it and once we're 2-3 weeks out from their release, I'd dump my far superior game out onto the internet for free in every platform I could, all making sure it cant be traced obviously. Nintendo would get asspained and try to suppress it, but the Streisand effect would kick in and everyone would play it. And at the end of the game I would have a special message that says that even while paying quintuple the price to the devs, it was still a fraction of the amount that Nintendo makes in a single day. I would say "this is what actual passion and hard work, unhindered by corporate greed and unfeeling investors, looks like". And when Nintendo's game comes out, there would be a direct comparison to how much of a steaming pile of shit the game is compared to mine. Maybe it would wake up some morons.

      I would do something like this to every game that went to shit that I know of personally, regardless of platform. Because Im a petty c**t like that I guess.

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Investors should never be listened to. You'll get more anyway when the world hears you're doing well anyway and the ones who left will feel like idiots. Never listen to investors just tell them to shut the frick up and watch the magic happen. Do not ever let them take the wheel ever. Same thing goes for publishers too developers need to man the frick up and tell them to shut the frick up when things sound too moronic for the project. They'll bend the knee if the entire team decides they're gonna frick off if things don't go their way anyway even if they say they'll just replace the team (they won't there is never enough time to do so anyway)

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    By stop buying games.

    Investors will leave when they see that they dont get money.

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    By having company leaders not give a shit about what the shareholders want because the shareholders can't force them to do anything.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >because the shareholders can't force them to do anything.
      they can kick out the ceo moron

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The shareholders always have control. The only cases where the company leaders don't bow down to shareholders are when they ARE the shareholders.

        The board if directors can, the shareholders cannot. The board of directors are a completely separate group from investors/shareholders. shareholders do not pick the CEO. The only direct influence a shareholder can have on a company is voting for the board of directors but they don't get to pick the director nominees, they only vote on a preselected pool of who they feel would be best.

        In fact, you are forced, by law, to have a board of directors before your company can have a single shareholder.

        News flash that a lot of morons aren't aware of; shareholders do not have any actual control over a company in any legal sense. If a company's leaders are constantly doing what the shareholders want it's because the leaders are moronic. Not because they have a legal mandate to do so.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is so dumb I'm going to assume its pic related.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's actually true you fricking idiot. Do you only get your knowledge of corporate structure from second hand sources on /misc/? Go read a book or look up how the supreme court has commented on in regards to this.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/boardofdirectors.asp
              >The board of directors of a public company is elected by shareholders.
              When people say shareholders they mean the people with the highest investment. Not John smith with 2 stocks. Although he's technically a shareholder.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you know this doesn't change anything that i said, right?
                Also
                >investopedia
                Fricking lmao, please tell me this is a joke.

                I'm just going to wait for you to post the Dodge/Ford case like a moron like a robot.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What's wrong with investopedia you dumb frick?
                Here.
                https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/management/board-of-directors/
                Shareholders have voting rights, they elect board of directors and board of directors hire the CEO and make sure the company is profitable, if they don't then they get kicked out. A shareholder can be a director or not.

                You're braindead

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol, all you're doing is proving how out of touch you are by posting these moronic sources. I'm not surprised. The only voting rights that they have is specifically tied to board directors and, again, they do not get to pick the candidates. The board of directors are completely separated from investors as a generalized entity but it seems like you're not able to grasp this thought.

                Please shut the frick up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're so moronic you think shareholders have no say on the company, do you know how moronic you sound you dumbfrick? you think a guy with 51% of the stock have no say? do you know how hostile takeover works?

                kys

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you think shareholders have no say on the company
                You want to know what's really funny here? I never said this. I actually did the opposite and pointed out that investors do, in fact, have rights as investors and I even pointed out what some of those rights were (like voting, the right to sell, etc). You seem like a massive ESL and do not understand what I typed, what the words in the images i posted are saying, or what corporate governance even functions like. But apparently you know more than the supreme court, which is really hilarious.

                The only reason why you're putting words in my mouth is because you got BTFO and don't like having your world view challenged so you make shit up to reinforce your moronic mindset. Hurry up and post Dodge v Ford so I can point out how stupid you are, again.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're backtracking
                >The board if directors can, the shareholders cannot. The board of directors are a completely separate group from investors/shareholders. shareholders do not pick the CEO. The only direct influence a shareholder can have on a company is voting for the board of directors but they don't get to pick the director nominees, they only vote on a preselected pool of who they feel would be best.

                this is completely false. To see how moronic you are go look up how hostile takeover works, because if shareholders have little influence as you say then such thing wouldn't exist. This is my last reply btw since you're just a goggling moron.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, so why did you bother posting this quote? Because none of it refutes anything that I stated whatsoever.

                >this is completely false.
                No, it isn't.

                >The board if directors can, the shareholders cannot.
                The boards of directors pick the CEO, the shareholders do not pick the CEO. This is a fact, you arguing against this would make you look moronic.

                To prove how moronic you are I'll argue by using quotes from the exact same web page that you originally tried using which will argue against what you're saying.
                >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp
                >CEOs are elected by the board of directors.
                Huh, guess that doesn't work out in your favor now does it? Or does it only work when you post it and not anyone else? Shareholders, in fact, do not pick the CEO. This is a well known fact.

                >The only direct influence a shareholder can have on a company is voting for the board of directors but they don't get to pick the director nominees
                This part is also true. Shareholders have three rights. The right to vote (on certain matters, not all of them), the right to sell their shares, and the right to sue.
                >they only vote on a preselected pool of who they feel would be best.
                This part is true as well, as shareholders to not pick the pool of nominees, but they do get to vote amongst which of these would be the best.

                I'd love for you to point out which parts of those are false. I'll wait, and I know you're an obsessed homosexual who is probably going to look at this again despite saying you won't reply after losing an argument. By the way, the supreme court disagrees with you. You never argued against that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The shareholders always have control. The only cases where the company leaders don't bow down to shareholders are when they ARE the shareholders.

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your favourite game only exists because an investor wanted to make money.

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT:underage people mad that people who invest want to make money without caring about gaming

  72. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Investors only concern should be that his dividents grow long term.
    If you like what some other company is doing in the industry invest with them.

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