>350k players
>raiding is dying
>the world is a ghost town
>players turning on dragon riding
>all classes unbalanced like they are still in beta
>blizzard adding a battlepass with 12 month lock in warden transmog
>yet again trying twitch drops to pump views as they dwindle to record lows
>youtubers complaining views and search metrics 90% lower than they were for shadowlands
>still no sales numbers revealed
>profession revamp was a flop
>economy broken
>players having to buy wow tokens with real money to afford work order materials
Its never been this bad. This is fricking catastrophic.
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They should try to cover up more female characters and put more gay frogs in the game. That should do it.
i'm not sure if that'll be enough. perhaps a wheelchair mount for buying 12 months.
>a wheelchair mount for buying 12 months
Imagine all the virtue signaling purchases if they said 10% was only going to turbo vegetables with dark skin. Bobby buys another yacht with 10 more prostitutes.
A wheelchair mount actually sounds hilarious, so they won't add it.
I don't get this, leftists don't want women to be objectified yet they support sex work and onlyfans prostitutes because that makes a woman independent and strong? Which one fricking is it?
if a male artist makes hot women its a man making money. If a ho goes onlyfans its a women making money. Bimbos dont notice onlyfans is pimping and its guys not women in charge.
the more degenerated a person becomes the more outwardly they crusade against their own problems
that's true for most things
Every day I pray for the MMO genre to die already so it can just be completely rebuilt from the ground up. It is absolutely flabbergasting how fricking bad it got after over a decade of trying to appeal to normies.
Tigole killed MMOs. Everything needs to be purged. Start over
They irony is that normies hate it too. The current version of wow doesn't appeal to anyone but mind broken addicts who don't mind doing the same repetitive task over and over again (M+)
this
there is genuinely not a single person who enjoys this, and not plays out of a habit/addiction
>rebuilt from the ground up
you are a dumbass, the future is appealing to normalgays and phone gamers even harder, have you not noticed every other genre is immensely more successful when it does? Your dumb wanna be snowflake ass doesn't realize that the entire reason that mmos are bad isn't because it's appealing to normies it's because it's appealing to easily addicted morons who will whale out on a simple gameplay loop
the put MISDIRECTION in the hunter talent tree after being baseline for over a decade of wow
Nearly all, maybe all, utility is part of the tree now. An attempt to balance Mythic+ I guess. It is annoying, especially as a shaman not having access to all your totems because the tree paths are suboptimal.
I gave wotlk classic a try recently and haven't played retail since the game first came out. does it get better for shaman dps? I get the feeling that they didn't like us based on how some things play out right now such as fire elementals.
Enhance is one of the best specs right now. Elemental is A tier with a lot of utility for mythic+. Both dps specs are good in keys and raiding. Restoration is beyond awful right now.
interesting, it feels like it goes the other way in wrath. I'm outpacing much of my boomer filled guild but only from minmaxing my element. Meanwhile people seem to want to have a resto shaman in every raid, I'm assuming just to cover bloodlust and wrath of air.
Well in Classic/TBC you needed as many shaman as you had groups, and sometimes you wanted more just to cycle more lusts.
So suddenly all those DPS shaman got dropped/benched/rerolled.
So now why bother bringing a dps shaman when a single resto covers all your needs and you can fill with DKs, Locks, Assass, and Mages which bring most other raid/class buffs/debuffs.
Maybe you'd bring an Enh for dogs, which can trivialize some add phases like Deconstructor trash piles or Kologarn or Brain phase Yogg.
Meanwhile Retail Enh are melee chads that every warrior/rogue wants to be grouped with for Windfury totem, so it's more oldschool mentality than Classic Wrath is right now funnily enough.
They also bring on demand offheals, amazing cleave, windrush. I love grouping with Enh.
Arena/BG players use ground mounts.
Capital cities are almost always ground mounts.
RPers use ground mounts.
And I see people using ground mounts for short distances in the open world too.
Not every WoW player is some minmaxing turboautist trying to scrape seconds off their playtime while paradoxically playing 16 hours a day.
Shit, I spent a few hours farming a very short route in Azure Span on my ground mount for decaying herbs. Got to take in the ambience, look at the tree bark, fish a bit between nodes, and help a few lowbies killing rares as they leveled.
But then when I needed to traverse to Waking Shore to do a RLP+20 I got there in 2 minutes flat whereas before it'd be a 5 minute auto-fly b-line ride while I afk.
Basing the game off how turboautists play is a you problem, tbqh. It means you're trying to compete with people with more free time than you and losing. You may as well sit on a knife and whine about how much it hurts.
I can see how that makes sense, fortunately my guild isn't one of the super try hard guilds so by putting the extra effort in I'm keeping significant dps in comparison.
>So now why bother bringing a dps shaman when a single resto covers all your needs and you can fill with DKs, Locks, Assass, and Mages which bring most other raid/class buffs/debuffs.
>Maybe you'd bring an Enh for dogs, which can trivialize some add phases like Deconstructor trash piles or Kologarn or Brain phase Yogg.
I never understood this mentality
whenever we put the raid group together we try to diversify the group as much as we can so every class and every spec is present
this is the fun part of the game
bring the player not the class
raiding with 5 warlocks and 6 warriors seems so boring to me
you want to join the raid as a dps warrior? sorry we already got 2
this is how we did it in 2008 and still do it today in wotlk classic
A large number of people are treating wotlk classic as if if you aren't blue parsing or above at the very worst then you're not worth bringing to 2 drake and then they still want to hard reserve. It's not wacky like this in my guild but you can't tell me you are actually playing the game if you haven't seen people like this.
parsing and DPS literally don't matter
if you can avoid avoidable damage, for example in OS the lava wall and the void circles you are better than 80% of the players
if you also know you have to kill adds when they spawn you are better than 90%
big numbers don't matter
only that you can do the fight right
it's such a simple concept
and this is coming from a healer
>big numbers don't matter
DPS checks.
>and this is coming from a healer
Only healers that can pump dps are viable in Mythic raids because big numbers matter.
The skill comes from optimizing your damage while multitasking with the mechanics.
>>big numbers don't matter
>DPS checks.
DPS checks aren't that high that you have to minmax
>>and this is coming from a healer
>Only healers that can pump dps are viable in Mythic raids because big numbers matter.
who the frick cares about mythic raids and retail?
>who the frick cares about mythic raids and retail?
oh so you're a moron who likes doing easy solved content.
>Only healers that can pump dps are viable in Mythic raids because big numbers matter.
I fricking hate this healers needing to dps meta. Not just WoW but any kind of MMO that forces it. They should just reduce all healer spec damage by 99% while in raids or dungeons.
Enhance is one of the best DPS specs in wrath, and ele is upper-middle pack that does better on two or three fights.
The trees are a good idea on paper, they are just hard to execute because either you take away and give back talents (something that feels bad) or you give more tools to classes, which causes the competitive side of wow to crumble because they can't balance for shit.
The bottom problem is that they missed what people liked about the trees. Something as minor as a +1% crit chance with a false sense of choice in order to make people feel like each level is worth it. Going back to this would require a whole restructuring of how wow levelling works, and they are never doing it because both players and devs see levelling as pure timegating without any other purpose.
The problem with trees is that the current trees are designed differently than the older trees. Old trees had a lot of minor upgrades with some keystone abilities but a lot of stuff was baseline so your spec would mostly function even with a sub-optimal tree. New trees basically removed historically baseline abilities and went "lmao assemble your kit yourself" and the end result was either nothing changed for your class or you're worse off. People weren't given anything new to play with with the new trees, they may have well not even done it with how poorly they were executed
As enhance, I’m fine giving up all of all of those totems(except static) for thunderstorm(knock up version).
M+ is unironically one of the worst content they've implemented in a long time
I'M STILL SO FRICKING MAD
THEY RAPED MY HUNTER
THEY RAPED MY HUNTER KN THE ASS AND DESTROYED ANY PLAYABILITY
THE GAMEPLAH IS GONE AND THEY FRICKING RAPED IT THEY DESTROYED MY HUNTER AND IT HAS LESS ABILITIES AND THE NEW ONES ARE PILES OF TRASH I WANT MY OLD ANILITIES I DONT WANT THESE FRICKING TALENTS IM SICK OF YOU BLIZZARD FRICK YOU IN THE ASS WHERE IS MY GODDAMN FRICKING DOUBLE TAP WHERE THE FFFUUUUCCCCCKKKK IS IT???
FRICK YOU FRICK YOU FRICK YOU IN THE ASS WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY GODDAMN BLUE SNARE ARROW AND THE DISORIENTING SHOT AT THE SAME TIME IN PVP?? AND WHY DOES THE ARROW STUN NOW, MOTHERFRICKER WHY WOULD I WANT IT TO STUN FOR LESS THAN 5 SECONDS ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME?
AND THESE MOUTHBREATHING wienerSLURPING BRAINDEAD RREETTAARRDDSS PRAISE THE NEW T A L E N T S Y S T E M AS AN IMPROVEMENT
FRICK YOU IN THE FRICKING ASS WITH A FRICKING SPLINTERED WOOD DILDO FRICK YOU AND YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR SISTER AND YOUR ENTIRE FRICKING FAMILY
YOU TOOK SOMETHING THAT W O R K E D
AND DUMPED A BIG FAT STEAMING PILE OF "NEW AND EXCITING" SHIT INTO IT
YOU GRABBED SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ENJOYED AND DESTROYED IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF RELEASING A NEW PRODUCT. YOU FRICKING CAPITALISTIC moronic GREEDY israeli PIECES OF SHIT, YOU IMPOSSIBLY INCOMPETENT INNOVATIVE GENIUSES, GO FRICK YOURSELVESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>tfw i play MM hunter AND outlaw rogue.
I want someone to burn blizzard down.
Or you could just stop playing and supporting the company. You homosexuals are absolutely braindead but your suffering is delicious so whatever.
it's over
Fellow Hunter main here. There isn’t a single class that has it worse than Hunters in retoilet. Our class design was bad in WoD, but then Legion literally just murdered the class. They turned Survival into a melee spec for some reason? BM is completely brain dead and boring, and Marksman is just fricking awful with trying to turn you into a stationary turret which Hunters have never been.
This one still continues to annoy me just like tricks on rogue.
turning on dragon riding
It was never good. Just a way to make busy work out of what was already automated, and make it cumbersome to get around where elevation gets in the way.
i had a sensible chuckle watching bucks get the mount from the new raid only to see it wasn't usable in the dragon isles because its a regular mount.
What mount? Cause I got the Raszageth skin and obviously it's usable.
Or do you mean the achievement mount for Vault Raider? Cause that's a ground mount and you can absolutely still use ground mounts in the Dragon Isles.
>wowhogs
>using ground mounts in 2023 rather than flying over the content to b-line to the world quest before going back to afk in the current capital city.
Also I love you how you realized you lied about the flying mount drop and how it's a ground mount and tried to deflect onto turboautists.
Massive wrinkles in your brain.
And the Raszageth skin is fricking amazing looking.
>And the Raszageth skin is fricking amazing looking.
holy frick the absolute shit taste
no wonder you are a WoW player
what? it's the best thing they added to the game ever, flying on old mounts feels like garbage now
I, too, like waiting for vigor to recharge.
moronic shill
I think they could nerf the vigor generation you get from going at high speed to half and dragonriding would still be factually faster than regular flying.
>I think
No one cares what you and your sunk cost fallacy think
What's the point of writing a turbo shitpost as a reply? The point is dragon riding is faster than regular flying even if you count vigor regeneration. If you have an actual counter argument or a way to disproof this, feel free to. Otherwise you're just throwing a tantrum.
So just give normal mounts faster flying, or the dragon skills. Why did we need vigor as a system? Because they want to make it a pain in the fricking dick. Starting at a low elevation? You're fricked
>hurr git guuud
any system that needs skill as an excuse to work as an improvement is a shit system
>Starting at a low elevation? You're fricked
This is not even about needing skill, it's more about needing you not to be a braindead moron. If you're capable of not choking yourself to death every time you drink water you're likely capable of not "getting fricked" just because you started on low elevation.
>So just give normal mounts faster flying, or the dragon skills
That's irrelevant to my argument. My argument is purely and simply "dragonriding is faster than regular flying".
>ad hom
discarded
>My argument is purely and simply "dragonriding is faster than regular flying
And my argument is literally "there is no reason for dragonriding if that's all you want. just make normal flying fricking faster".
its a gimmick, a marketing thing
doesnt actually add anything to gameplay because game revolves around raiding and m+
>players turning on dragon riding
huh?
what happened
they have to press buttons and can't afk and theres 4 mounts you customise and your hundreds of MOUNTSMOGGSCHEEVOS mounts don't work.
glad i quit shortly after shadowlands came out
>your hundreds of MOUNTSMOGGSCHEEVOS mounts don't work
Based
I unironically hate games that have trillions of different stupid variations of mounts. They all play the same and all they end up being is a stupid flex with zero gameplay differences between them.
My favorite game that did that was Age of Wushu. Not everybody had a mount, and there were only 3 variations of them, with relatively slow ones being easy to acquire and the fastest ones being acquired through having a Guild House under your possession (which meant you either had to buy one from a guild, or had to have your own guild and conquer territory through a whole pvp subsystem), and mounts expired after a couple weeks so you had to keep a steady supply of them. And they were all normal fricking horses, not stupid 40ft dragons or giant memeshit or whatever.
There WAS flying mounts, but they were extremely rare and like the other mounts they expired in time.
Other than that, you could acquire mobility skills like double and triple jumps, air dashes, and sprinting, and all of those skills could be used in battle so it was a mobility boost AND a general combat potency boost. It felt great.
In every other game it just seems like mounts are just a stupid glamour to flex with and there's zero gameplay differences between them and the level moronic mount they give you like 3 hours into the game or whatever. Like a cheevo with a graphical effect that nobody else can ignore. Fricking obnoxious.
FF14 is one of the worst about this.
having different mounts is nice because it's kind of fun seeing what preferred mount people have, like you're in a battleground and everyone is using their own mount rather than everyone just having a shitty fricking horse or something
That loses its charm when everyone is using a gaudy cash shop mount though.
most dont, I exclusively use my sabotender or the rathalos
What
said, it just results in a giant clusterfrick of nonsense on your screen. Every time I queue up for Frontlines (a 24v24v24 player pvp arena, kind of like Battlegrounds in WoW or WvWvW in Guild Wars 2), it's a giant clusterfrick of nonsense on my screen.
It's not fun to see, it's discordant. The entire visual style of the game is annihilated because you have Monster Hunter Rathalos next to flying fat cats next to magic carpets next to the one lowbie still using his default chocobo next to a dude riding a giant mecha next to a guy being carried by a fricking gorilla. These are all actual ingame mounts I am describing
It's a visual clusterfrick and I hate it
i just don't like how in FF14 there are like flying car mounts and stuff, there is some enjoyment when it's variety of fantasy creature mounts
Too bad, anon, I like being carried around by a giant gorilla with a jetpack.
14 needs an option in the settings to default everyone to their chocobo for you if you want.
yeah an immersive mode that disables all the gay glowy outfits and ridiculous store mounts would be cool. just chocobos and chainmail on everyone.
I think I might be in the extreme minority with this, but I really liked a lot of the FFXIV 1.0/2.0 gear, you had thick padded gambesons, chainmail coifs/hauberks, simply pointy wizard hats and robes and then when you started getting more ornate or fancy gear, it felt like a massive upgrade.
Thank you for the sensible chuckle anon.
>there is some enjoyment when it's variety of fantasy creature mounts
I don't necessarily disagree but the problem is that it always spirals out of control.
For example, the vanilla WoW mounts were fine. I liked how every race had its own racial mount. It made sense that each race would have its own working animals and its own solutions to the need for cavalry and transportation. I didn't even necessarily mind gnomes and their dumb robot chickens or whatever. They're gnomes, that well was already poisoned so whatever, right?
I haven't kept up with WoW since because it's garbage, but if it's anything like FF14 and every other fricking MMO on the market, there's tons of various mounts with zero distinction made for race, culture, or gameplay differences. They just exist so people can feel unique, which isn't necessarily bad, but it always, always, always comes at the price of a consistent visual style for the game. I have NEVER seen a game remain firm about not having stupid shit for mounts once they open that can of worms.
Why would I defend WoW? It's trash too, just like every other modern MMO. I am
and I meant every word.
>but it always, always, always comes at the price of a consistent visual style for the game.
Keep any game alive long enough and you're just gonna have to go there, because there's only so many colors of dragons you can do before you've covered them all.
Look at monster hunter, adding freaking mecha mantises, pokemon, DOTA2, as examples that you just can't go on forever sticking to your own style before you're forced to either stop or break the rules.
but bullshit like pic related isnt breaking your immersion? hmmm...
is this fricking real?
do people in this thread even play wow? of course its real. anyway, complaining about cars in ff14 is silly if wow had fricking helicopters since tbc
That looks cool though, it looks ramshackled and barely held together by goblin frickery.
The shit in final fantasy looks like your character went down and got a bmw to ride into the battlefield.
>drives tru your starting zone
nothing personal troony
Still looks vastly more in universe than the tron motorcycles.
>dwarves can make a steamtank but not a wooden motorcycle
>whataboutism
complaining about a modern car in a fantasy game is legit imo and warcraft has had steampunk helicopters since 1996 it's not like stormwind guards are flying around in apaches
>complaining about a modern car in a fantasy game is legit imo
have you ever played a single final fantasy game? they literally have more modern technology than we have moron
no i never cared for final fantasy and i responded to someone saying it's okay for final fantasy to do it because wow has helicopters which has nothing to do with the tech level of final fantasy (which has swords and bows for some reason when they also have space ships?)
>which has swords and bows for some reason when they also have space ships
yeah. welcome to FINAL FANTASY where laser guns and swords fight side by side, you may or may not also like STAR WARS which is fantasy science fiction in a similar vein
okay but how does that relate to warcraft having helicopters? and also that's moronic you don't bring a sword to a gun fight
not my problem if helicopters flying next to your griffins ruin your lord of the rings inspired fantasy mmo
laser swords*
Have you played The Burning Crusade?
yes and players complained back then that introducing space ships and lasers to a fantasy world made no sense and again in legion when they simply forgot that the lightforged had them and could easily btfo the legion with them but didn't because oops
then what's the point of travel if you can just use your warp drive to go from one place to the next? portals already ruined the 'world' of warcraft
because robotic dragons still fly and use non space age tech they just happen to look like dragons, a metallic dragon is not on the same level as a galaxy travelling spaceship
>only
nope
also you first
I'm not playing your game if you can't even be consistent moron.
You'll just shift goalposts all the time and make up arbitrary rules and exclusions.
Still looks moronic.
Dalamud is literally an artificial fricking satellite launched into orbit by Allagans and it has existed since 1.0.
Meanwhile WoW introduced spaceships in TBC and doubled down furthermore in Legion.
its only logical when core philosophy is power creep. Any game that lives long enough has to progress from kill a boar to intergalactic battles.
so you're saying wow should have player spaceships
it doesn't, are you talking to the wrong person?
>so you're saying wow should have player spaceships
sure
if robotic dragons are possible why not stealing spaceship tech (which the draenei have had since tbc anyway)
also
>its only bad if the players can get their hands on it because i need to win the argument
kys
>it doesn't
look if u dont have a problem with wow literally putting the biggest bullshit ever in their tolkien/warhammer rip-off im happy for you, but final fantasy has always had the whole spectrum of technology existing side by side, youre welcome newfriend
warhammer has helicopters too so if warcraft is a warhammer rip-off then why should i have a problem with it?
well does warhammer have flying space ships shooting lasers and space goats? final fantasy has always been like this so yeah, its just a you problem im afraid, guess u should stick to western games because thats very common setting in asian games
I literally havent played any WoW past early Cata
I know they went full moronic with the mounts, but something like a frickhuge fricking ship as a mount just seems even dumber than a gyrocopter
This being a WoW thread, I assume you are attacking 14 in defense of WoW, and your argument is worthless. WoW doesn't need clashing themes to look awful because it has always been a chore to look at. Stupidly huge pauldrons and hilariously dumb elf eyebrows since day 1. Goofy nonsense
That newbie is actually a PvP alt and he's gonna singlehandedly carry.
Having a lot of mounts work if each mount type and all of its recolours come from the same source, like it used to be. Eg all the nether drakes come from the same activity.
What I like in ffxiv is the chocobo mount which at least you can customize and bring it out to join you in battles. I wish there were dungeons where you can summon these fluffy birds to join the battle and adventure...
>I unironically hate games that have trillions of different stupid variations of mounts.
well, their remaining playerbase thinks the opposite, and blizz just fricked them in the ass... again.
Everything you just said is wrong, stop gaslighting people ffxiv gay
>having to use mods to try and make their ugly characters coombait
>they just end up looking even more like chinese league of legends clone characters
>even the coommodders dropped the game
i am embarrassed for you.
>playing an mmo to mod and erp
I’m embarrassed for you. Go play second life and rp with the rest of the overweight middle aged trannies.
Woah! Booba! Big mommy milkers!
You are right anon. I don't know what I was thinking
Return to your vg general anon, most of us haven't touched fifan
Talk about WoW, barry
https://vocaroo.com/1nupcVQpo9Nd
>fatass
>stretch marks
>loose skin from piercing
>shitty tattoo
>eyes too close, hair that only bring attention to it
>remote control camera because nobody would come and take a pic of her
Sad reflection of the game itself.
Man, Fandy is hot and you are crinj.
You are right about the game tho.
>accuses of gaslighting while posting a bullshot model from a 3rd party porn modding website
Embarrassing honestly.
she still has literal fricking zoomerface going on
why did they grab a dragon broodmother and give her zoomerface
anon thats not a real wow model.
look at the breasts, too big for nu blizz
You are gaslighting people with your fake modded model
Why do FF-friends have to constantly shitpost about the superior game? None of those are true except that they haven't posted the sales numbers.
>profession revamp was a flop
In what way? It’s much easier and inexpensive to get high ilv pieces on alts with optimized stats thanks to missives. Are you crying about being locked out of 405+ gear without clearing heroic and high keys? If you can’t clear something as easy as heroic you don’t need 405+ pieces.
>raiding is dying
No issue completing heroic on 3 different characters. Progressing mythic on main with several other competing guilds on server. Are you in an rp server on Oceania or something?
> It’s much easier and inexpensive to get high ilv pieces on alts with optimized stats thanks to missives.
That’s a part of the issue.
>zivtrannies jealous of the god of gaming once again
i'm tired of this rerun..
The next successful MMO will be in VR. No studio has put forth the budget yet to make WoW + VR Chat but when they do it'll be phenomenal.
i think its going to be something along the lines of alternate universe, just living the life in fantasy medieval world filled with magic would satisfy pretty big chunk of people
basically any isekai turned into game, pandered to westies
Have you tried wearing an VR headset for more than an hour at a time? It just gets uncomfortable. No way people will no life on MMO on this platform. We already have one game and it's nothing great and honestly I'd rather get a new good MMO on PC than a decent game that needs to be comfortable for VR.
It also gets old quickly slashing your sword on enemies with basically no feedback and no way to have cool abilities and spells.
>Delusional moron has an opinion
Shocking.
there are vr mmos already and they suck cause combat is shit.
I play FFXIV but 350k players sounds very low for WoW. What is this number even based on?
it has to be warcraft logs but there's an 80% chance they either interpreted the numbers wrong or they pulled it out of their ass
Okay that makes some sense they try and do stuff like that with my game but it mostly counts endgame only so its probably very flawed in both cases.
There's nothing to do but endgame in WoW though.
Compared to XIV where only 1-3% of the players even bother to touch Savage/Ultimate because it is legitimately hard and intimidating
>legitimately hard and intimidating
Come on now.
I literally fall asleep while I was doing Heroics in WoW which is why I quit.
After playing XIV I just couldn't even look back at how deadbrain easy WoW is, XIV ruined WoW for me.
It's like trying to go back to McDs after having tasted real meat.
>heroics ever
never made it, if you didnt go greens to mythic to +20s you werent ready
It's about 10% for the easiest ultimate but we dunno how many were bought clears
active character census based on an average of 3 characters per player.
Get gang raped by Black folk
fricking die WoW and Blizzard
frick the leftist game companies and the leftist game developers that took away all the fun and sexyness in gaming for some gay ass milk toast non offensive new gaming world order
>GOING downhill
lmao what is this 15 years ago?
aaaaaand...its gone
Wow I jerk offd so much to the blurry picture of that female human model. Truly arousing how could they even think about such a dirty thing. Glad it's fruit now
You know a gamer is really shit when they bother with stuff like this. Always a bad sign
Leftism is a brain disease.
This and “town dwellers” is what pushed me over the edge into unsubbing back in Shadowlands. Though the story going to trash had me on the brink already. WoW is just something to laugh at. Not even playable naga would get me back now.
arent strippers supposed to be attractive?
she doesn't even work there now
you'd have to be literally born yesterday to not understand why WoW is bad now. Legion is the last time I had any morsel of fun in that game and that is me being really, REALLY forgiving
What? Legion was tons of fun for me as a casual. I could do my dailys pretty fast, get tons of rep and then chill with whatever I wanted to do. I guess the randomness of legendarys was annoying for raiders.
>pander to trannies
>game flops
many such cases!
I too like the mount creativity in FF, even if I unironically still use the starting chocobo and the golden horse from ARR trials.
i got bubbly bernie and will never use anything else.
The only way to fix this is to add more trans and LGBTQIBRAAP representations and MORE BLACK FOLX
>>350k players
proof?
>want to play but hate high keys because everything being a one-shot is fricking gay
>get my raid done and have no more PVE to do unless I want to LARP as a masochist
Tips for getting into arenas when I don't know the CDs of any class but my own?
Uhhh, WoW-sisters??????
Our response??
Both games are shit
>WoW is shit therefore MMORPG genre as a whole is shit
This cope again
>strawman
>MMORPG genre as a whole is shit
In year 2023 it kinda is.
Theres no clear TA for MMOs.
wtf i love microtransactions now
>wowbuck can't defend his game
>goes scorched earth instead
many such cases
Hasn't Omega Ultimate already been cleared? Omega was like 8 days or something, Raszageth was 11. I think the Omega clear had Cactbot used, but WoW has addons that almost play the game for you too.
>Omega was like 8 days or something, Raszageth was 11
Not directly comparable, most of the time spent in WoW world first races is spent doing splits for more gear or taking longer to pull in general for a million reasons. The fact gear is never a concern for Ultimates makes the entire experience different.
That's a good point. I don't really pay attention to world first races so I don't know how much of that is actually spent on the boss, but I have raided in both so I know that it's a hell of a lot easier to focus your time directly on the boss in XIV.
world first for ultimates is spending 13+ hours a day progging til its done. Or in this case cheating as the JP group did
You realize he's mocking 14 players, right?
No, he's mocking WoW bucks who love addons and insist WoW is harder; people like that gigantic homosexual Max. The only reason you could ever think this is if you haven't watched any stream of his for the past year.
It's kind of interesting how Scripe looks like he's drying out and dying when wow is on his screen but he's positively glowing when he plays xiv
The thing 14 does very well is visual design in encounters. Boss abilities are very clearly telegraphed and mechanics are easy to interpret based on their visuals. Wow is a clusterfrick with boss visuals and it's pretty much required to have addons to tell what is going on.
>very well is visual design in encounters
Enter:
>Round arena
>Raid wide attack which is either blur-max or flashbang blinding attack
>Red arrow on tank(s) for TB
>Visual vomit for an attack with variations
>Repeat till boss does every variation of the above mechanic
>add phase for a reason
>Boss delivers cringe one-liner and blinds you with a raid-wide attack
>repeat mechanics but mixed together
Anon, you should try raiding instead of dungeons.
>Boss abilities are very clearly telegraphed and mechanics are easy to interpret based on their visuals
Visuals or skill name, but most of the time you're dead before the animation even comes out so you need to record the fight and play it back in slow motion just to understand why the frick you died
>avoid bosses attack
>lol you died because you didn't move out of the red circle that disappeared 10 seconds before the boss actually launched the attack
>didn't move out of the red circle
why didn't you?
You learn to move out of the red circle before snapshot during the fricking Hall of the Novice.
>you haven't watched any stream of his for the past year.
Why the frick would I watch someone stream wow or 14? I play games. I don't need to watch some fat slob as a substitute for friends
Sure anon, just don't confidently claim to understand what someone is thinking based on nothing but your own bias.
Literally every world first prog group uses addons. Its all a big circle jerk pretending they dont.
Hyped. I really enjoy watching them do ultimates.
MMOs age like milk, and WoW is well past its expiration date.
Hey buddy, you forgot to post this to r/asmongold.
Dragon riding is just more borrowed power
>LFM VOA10 CLASS RUN 4.2K GS+ LINK ACHIEVEMENT
WoW has been shit. Their only gimmixk is Mythic+ and its boring. Yoir gear is pretty much useless. Time to let it go.
Friendly reminder that if you don't have Glad, CE or KSM your opinion is invalid because you don't actually play the game!
>buys achievement
>get to have an opinion
Sounds familiar, something about suffrage...
Probably because there's fricking bugs EVERYWHERE. Just look at the primalist future shit they added last week. What an absolute mess
Yeah it's not looking good for Foxxo, all that money spent buying carries, all for it to fade away into irrelevancy.
Grim.
mythic+ sucks dick
no one wants to do that
Complete mystery why WoW is dying.
Here is their newest ad btw.
>thinks wow is dying
>can't stop posting about it on /vg/ as well as Ganker
you're unwell
Game hasn't been under 400k players since 2005 m8
please refer to
>"Hey that old deer on the ground is dying, I can see a huge pool of blood coming out it's wound and I think I even see some guts"
>"NO IT ISN'T DYING YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALIVE FROM IT'S TWITCHING YOU'RE JUST OBSESSED"
Buck moment
>dancing cat meme
these are based ngl
>Here is their newest ad btw.
You have to be joking.
I thought the lady on the left was giving birth to herself at first
They really are going all in on pandering to the furgay audience huh.
If the furgay community has proven anything whatsoever in the past 20 years, it is that they will pay literal millions for actual shit. Of course they are pandering to them.
What a sad fricking ending WoW got. Completely pozed and unrecognizable.
They didn't even do it right, He's not dancing, just breakdancing (he's doing the hand leg spin thing)
can't say i care
>70% madeup opinions
>30% outright lies
Yea, I think I am on Ganker.
Why do you feel the need to lie about this game, OP? Is it because you otherwise cant control your addiction?
Here is your new Ysera. Fully covered from the oppressive male gaze.
>LEAVES LEAVES LEAVES LEAVES
>OH MY GOD HEKKIN LEAFERINOS ON MY DRAGONMOMMY
I cannot believe I ever thought WoW was overdesigned in the past when I see shit like this. We had it so good, sisters.
new model for a dead npc?
>dead
The only ones they are actually killing off are all the males that represent what they see be be toxic masculinity.
Wait didn't Ysera got corrupted and then turned into a star constellation in that one legion quest?? or am I missing something
Ysera got swapped out with Malfurion, he went to Ardenweald in her place. Like in soccer
this can't be real
Correct. Then she went to the afterlife where she popped out of a seed safe and sound, but still technically dead. Now she's alive again because Malfurion switched places with her. Yes, this is all as stupid as it sounds.
They decided that using the replacement that was already there waiting was too much work. Better to just revive her and invalidate 3 expansions worth of story.
>he does not know
>she's literally cross eyed
Nice game wowers
Without the pants this outfit will have fun upskirt shots. Too bad nobody cares enough to do cosplay.
i don't even mind her fit
her fricking eyes look ridiculous
It's aight. Lame premise but I've enjoyed M+ and raiding. Won't probably continue to the second tier, but that has been my experience with every WoW expansion since MoP.
t. 7/8M
>Won't probably continue to the second tier
I'm hearing the same sentiment from those I know return for DF. If you don't want to raid then M+ is all there is to do, and the community around it is now beyond toxic. The aesthetic is not appealing anymore. The writting is terrible and cringy.
There are two types of people that play WoW: toxic tryhards and troons. I don't want to be around either.
>>the world is a ghost town
This is the thing that finally broke my addiction to revisit every other year. I started in 2006 on an RP server and it was very bustling and busy, you'd have people RPing all over the world and shit, doing events with their guilds or campaigns. The world felt so alive. I stopped properly during the warlords of draenor expansion, it was much diminished but still quite active. I then revisited the game in Shadowlands and the world was fricking DEAD. Cities once overflowing with people walking about and roleplaying, or just hanging out, deserted. I'd never seen it before. It was then I realised I was finally free.
>I then revisited the game in Shadowlands and the world was fricking DEAD. Cities once overflowing with people walking about and roleplaying, or just hanging out, deserted. I'd never seen it before.
you idiot everyone was roleplaying because everyone died and went to the shadowlands
you completely missed it
Is it really shocking that a 20 year old game is dying?
>ret rework finally coming
OUR FAITH HAS BEEN REWARDED BROTHERS!
looking forward to this since paladin has been the most fun class so far, at least prot and holy
ret is just kind of meh unless ashes to dust procs
its too late brother...
damn
he cute
You guys are either not playing or bullshitting. The game hasn't felt more alive since Legion, and i am not even on a big populated server. Yeah it sucks to get into m+ and raiding but claiming that the world is dead/empty or that dragonriding is bad only shows you are full of shit. Not buying it
>game is unirically dead
>numbers have never been so low
"b-but it's alive for me"
cope
>transfer to a megaserver while leveling
>my queue times for RDF are actually longer
wtf
why does it make me feel so sad
>add a WC3 inspired armor set that looks good and players have been waiting for for 18 years
>timegate it behind a 12 month continuous play achievement
People are just doen with this bullshit.
>looks good
It looks better than most WoW armors do because there are only a handful of open robes in the entire game, one of which is the Kul Tiran heritage armor. Hell, that might be the only other one even. Not that looking better than most WoW armors is a high bar to clear considering most "armors" in this game are just flat textures that make it look like you're wearing body paint.
Everything in the game that looks cool is now locked behind money in some fashion or another. I have yet to see a single normally obtained set in DF that looks good. It all looks like stuff that 10 years ago would of ended up in the artists rejected bin.
Seems like quite a common MMO trend these days. I love the elder scrolls so decided to check the MMO out again after dropping it in the beta and it is SO fricking bad with monetisation, maybe the worst I have ever seen. You pay to make things less annoying, basically, and there are so many mounts and shit constantly in your face to purchase with microtransactions.
isn't the original armor set obtainable ingame?
Nope.
This doesn't make sense to me at all. It's designed for basically one race, why is it the time gated prize? Why wouldn't it be the matching mount or something more people would probably care about? It's like a night-elf only punishment.
This is the only good trading post reward too
Jesus Christ
It's not even a good achievement, or earned or anything.
It's literally just a soft-annual pass. "pls stay subscribed"
It should have been the Night Elf heritage set and it probably was slated to be at some point.
>"n-no but wardens are a very specific part of kaldorei society"
As are Mountain Kings and Spellbreakers to Dwarf and Blood Elf culture.
I remember editing the game files back in 2005 to access my own custom armor. Now you need to spend 14.99x12 just to get the pixels. Gaming is truly goblin'd
Good, frick nu blizzard and their puritan troon force.
what i see in this thread or in every WoW thread:
>frick blizzard because i hate them now, and because i do i think their games are dead even though i know they really aren't and still worth millions otherwise Microsoft wouldn't pay that much to buy their "dead games" but i am gonna keep posting my cope and look like a clown
>he thinks Microsoft cares about Blizzard in any capacity and that they're not buying the company out for Candy Crush and CoD
There's a reason none of the recent interviews about the merger even mention Blizzard or any of its properties. They want Candy Crush and CoD.
>what is call of duty
>what is IP rights
Warcraft as an entity is 10x more valuable than some shitty washed up mmo
what is the most "chad" thing in dragonlands?
pvp ilvl isnt tied to rating anymore
Sabellian is probably the most chad person in this gay disney land expansion.
>try ascension
>cant get any items for 4 weeks now
>the only content there is unironically logging to raids which wont give u any items
>m+ is completely dead, whole server has 3 tanks capable of using their keyboard
Whole genre is dead isn't it, its just roleplaying shitheads nowadays
I'm scared that one of my friends will kill himself once this game dies for good. He has nothing else.
You'd be surprised, he might be able to turn it around. Unless he's like 50+ or something.
I can't get him to do anything with me other than play shitty goyslop video games. I almost got back into WoW as an excuse to hang out with him but I just couldn't do it.
Mexico, Tijuana, hookers and blow RIGHT THE FRICK NOW
Either you gringos get shot and fed to stray or he realises there is more to life than pixels and polygons.
Miss him yet?
Lets unpack these lies.
>350k players
Its actually 10 Million players/monthly. See ->https://activeplayer.io/world-of-warcraft/
>raiding is dying
Opinion/lie. According to wowlogs it actually increased compared to Shadowlands. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/
>the world is a ghost town
Opinion/lie. The two servers I play on have a full main city and you cant go 5 secs flying around without meeting at least one new player.
>players turning on dragon riding
Opinion. Proof?
>all classes unbalanced like they are still in beta
Warcraftlogs shows they are actually pretty close to each other except for Survival Hunter. 10 point difference between best and worst.
>blizzard adding a battlepass with 12 month lock in warden transmog
Literally just free content.
>yet again trying twitch drops to pump views as they dwindle to record lows
Opinion.
>youtubers complaining views and search metrics 90% lower than they were for shadowlands
One clickbait youtuber. Misleading. Lie/opinion.
>still no sales numbers revealed
Only true thing so far.
>profession revamp was a flop
Opinion/lie. Most youtube videos are positive about it. People I talked to loved it. My guild loves it.
>economy broken
Opinion.
>players having to buy wow tokens with real money to afford work order materials
Lie.
Tl:DR: OP is a lying little b***h. He is a former addict who needs to convice himself to not play again.
>Actually 3 times as many play the game than bought the best selling expansion.
>https://activeplayer.io/world-of-warcraft/
This appears to give absolutely no source to these statistics, clicking on the (?) next to the number takes you to a 404 and they frequently say this is just an estimate and not to be used as fact. There is also boilerplate text which makes me sceptical.
This is the closest thing I've found in regards to how they gather data:
>All data such as the monthly user count, the Users chart, the table presented are the result of extensive research on a specific game. We run through numerous statistics websites that offer statistical data for the game such as statista.com, steamcharts.com, newzoo.com, gamstat.com, and more. I entered these data on software and produce detailed and improved results.
To me this implies they must be crawling for active characters, not players, since this info is not available.
>Click the number for evidence on your "source"
>It's a 404
Sure I believe you sir. How's the weather in Bombay btw?
>active characters
>players
didn't even bother reading the rest of your moronic post, dumb shit
> According to wowlogs it actually increased compared to Shadowlands.
lol do people actually believe this?
You just need to use them correctly. If you compare raid activity of SL 1 month before Dragonflight, to the release of Vault. Then yes, player numbers increased.
What, compare raid to raid? No no. We don't want to do that.
>10 Million players/monthly
what horseshit. it never got close to 10m since WoD
>goes out of his way more than anyone should for a temporary discussion to dunk on the haters and justify his decisions
sorry, who's the addict here?
>Its actually 10 Million players/monthly
All fake, nice try homo.
Let's unpack these lies
is a lying little b***h. He is a addict who needs to convice himself to not play again like everyone else who has already left.
good morning sir, or should I say.. AI
based
I usually just look at this threads to see old boomers ree that they are no longer kids
Anon he is baiting, you got baited, those are all very obvious lies, have you not been paying attention to the news?
I have and I am still playing the game. Do you base your information on what you read on Ganker? Stay out of touch boomers the train left a long time ago.
>I am still playing the game
You and the couple 100k people still keeping subs up
>Do you base your information on what you read on Ganker
I am reading the investor reports that show the market is losing faith in blizzard because they aren't making money
Gaming is dead in general. Most of the popular shit is absolute garbage. Remake after remake. American politics shitting on everything as well.
WoW is fairly constant and I can just play it with my friends. Current expansion is the most fun it has been in years and it doesn't matter if people on v are reeing 24/7.
Try out black desert online.
https://voca.ro/1nDlPXGN9w0e
With the fact that China players made up like half of WoW's playerbase, and that Blizzard games no longer operate in China, how long before WoW becomes too unprofitable for the game to keep going?
I can't imagine any other MMO losing literally HALF the playerbase overnight and still going.
>WoW becomes too unprofitable for the game to keep going
I'd say "profitable" would be like decades. If you mean "active development" then at this rate 5 years. Everquest and FFXI are still up because they still make money, they just have no active development.
>Everquest and FFXI are still up because they still make money, they just have no active development.
Everquest gets new expansions yearly, and FF11 is also getting new content
EQ is just yearly asset swaps and TLPs
Buisinesses die agonisingly slow deaths, Anon. Consider this: Blizzard and Worlo have been in a downward trend for a decade now, and it's been about seven years since they last had a prominent and fresh release. And yet it's only now that their lack of support and funding is starting to peek through now (previously functional spells and mechanics bugging out, for example Orgrimmar elevator platforms suddenly changing your direction and flipping the camera around when you walk onto / off of them), as well as content starting to feel overstretched even for the comfort gamers. Also, keep in mind they lost Chinese licensing, but by all means, Chinese players are still technically able to purchase the game and play on foreign servers. The chances of them doing that is relatively slim because they practically lost all their character progression in the shutting down of the chinese service and we don't know how hard the CCP is going to knock on their doors if they do, but it's possible in all technicality.
It's gonna be years though before anything actually shuts down. Hell, I imagine that Blizzard Entertainment Studios will have to give up their campus and move servers and maintenance to other locations while the studio dev team gets cut down to Bellular's Studio size before Worlo gets shut down. At this point I feel it becomes even more likely that Blizzard will be forced to sell the IP to keep afloat, meaning ABK will have other studios take care of Worlo, meaning Blizzard may shut down before Worlo does lol.
Why is WoW the one game that mindbreaks Ganker where they continously have to just lie about shit that takes 10 seconds to confirm instead of just criticizing it for its many actual flaws and problems
The game is older than most of Gankers userbase.
feel free to disprove anything addressed in this thread.
With what? He said she said? There are no "sources" in the OP so why do I need any - Waste of time, these threads appear regardless because this game (and all mmos) live rent free in the minds of Ganker. Better to just nuke all mmo discussion on this board. It'd be for the better
Anon the game literally is dying, bobby kotick revealed the entire company will sink or swim based on if diablo 4 makes $1 billion
What a fricking moronic statement when Blizzard only makes up about 10% of overall ActiBlizzKing profits
Yes anon, Blizzard's offices in california are going to get shuttered.
This is why all the offices on the east coast for Blizzard Albany opened up, blizzard cancelled all their esports support and the netease deal died.
There's no more money, blizzard is dying and it's about to be broken down and all the talents just be pushed to other divisions, every industry investor is talking about this
>t-two more weeks
I don't know where you get this cope from, are there no other series from other companies you are into?
The netease deal falling through and no chinese company wanting to work with blizzard is gigantic anon, Tarisland was WoW mobile
I hold no love for Blizzard but I'm also not delusional enough to believe it'll sink and die. Sorry I'm not a Shazamtroony
I'm a very well adjusted person as well, Bobby Kotick coming out and saying;
>the only thing that matters is D4
In the last investor call while both the china deal died and they discontinued all esports support while the microsoft acquisition is being held up in court tells me that the higher ups in the company barely have the money to keep the lights on.
We still have zero word on pve mode for overwatch 2, it's reasonable to assume it's not even coming this year.
D4 is the only thing that is going to generate revenue for the company this year, which is why they are doing everything possible to keep the lights on.
you know its over when microsoft is trying to buy you
Even ESO is better at this point
That is just lies. They are so desperate they are going back to fricking Morrowind again.
> ESO
> Permabanned 10k players by stalking their social media and seeing if they shit talked china
Lmao
so this... is the power... of leftist gaming...WHOAH
when does WoW actually die?
It won't. When it reaches the end of its life, it'll go into F2P w/ cash shop boosts maintenance mode.
>350k players
No way
>Raiding is dying
As with every expansion
>Players turning on dragon riding
The oposite. Traditional 310% mounts feel stone age tier
>Classes unbalanced
Except for healers, balance has never been as good as now.
The others arent even worth mentioning.
MMOs are dying, and wow with it, but still it´s the best expansion since Legion.
>balance has never been as good as now
as long as you only play the 1 spec that actually works for your class.
NTA but I play fricking Feral and I'm one of the top DPS in my guild with maybe 1/3 the playtime. Sneed.
I should have guessed that counting to 1 was a bit above the average WoW player.
Both Resto and Balance are strictly better than Feral.
Meds.
You can raid mythic and time 20s with every spec in game.
>the best expansion since legion
thank you for exposing your opinion as worthless
asmondolg said it's not that bad, it's actually kind playable, therefore wow is back and is king again baby
he had a meltie and said he's not having fun with anything in DF lol.
Every MMO you once loved it's now forever ruined because companies pander to normalgays.
Lineage 2 pandered to Russians and bot farmers
🙁
They're leaving to join Lost Ark
so what is the selling point of dragonflight? the new flying?
the expansion is not as bad as shadowlands
that's it
that's the selling point
and that is what every person that is enjoying says
Less tedious busywork
More gateways to good gear
No FOMO, log in everyday to not fall behind bullshit
It's not Sneedolands
The selling point of Dragonflight is:
"At least it's not as bad as Shadowlands"
This is the third straight expansion of this rhetoric. Regular people have already left the game enmasse because they read the writing on the wall ages ago. The only people left at this point are the people who will only stop playing when either they or the game is dead.
Personally I wouldn't have believed the 350k number until China was switched off, a place that has always had a huge chuck of the base. That's entirely believable now.
We literally have log data from Shadowlands where China was only like 10%, you're just moronic
Show it
>Show it
>wojack poster is chinese shill
like pottery
>make unsubstantiated claims in OP
>no one bats an eye
>say something that goes against OPs narrative
>everyone loses their minds
https://twitter.com/KihraOfTemerity/status/1593239804212178945
>60% is a conservative estimate
>classic
>some catgirl profile pic
lol
that's the guy that runs wclogs/fflogs
the pic is his XIV character
my private solo server with player bots is livelier than blizz realms
They are having a New world situation where there isn't enough gold and too much resources. It doesn't help they removed legendaries and end game progression to opt for a more casual FFXIV like ilvl power grind. Mythic plus, raiding and pvp don't really interact with the economy. They take from it but they don't really give back to it. It's a clear issue from rookie designers.
"What is XIV doing? Just copy that."
for serious posters itt, should i give WoW a shot in general? i've always was more of a W3 guy but rpg custom games are by far my favourite, would WoW click that feel?
Probably not. If you're after an RPG you might like Classic WoW better than retail. idk though, the free trial goes up to Lv 20 and to my knowledge lets you play anything but Dragonflight so maybe just do that
Good god no. The worst thing I ever did was give WoW a chance because I liked Warcraft 3
as someone who played it for over 12 years and stopped a while back, let me tell you, its dogshit and absolutely not worth your time
Wowo Wawa: DOGGANSHITE
>rpg custom games are by far my favourite
then you're more into diablo clones like path of exile, grim dawn, etc. twilight's eve orpg is basically just a diablo clone
Why the frick would you go into a thread mourning the death of the game and ask if you should give the game a chance,
Are you fricking moronic?
I'm being serious, what fricking mentality did you seriously come from here.
This is like going to a funeral and asking the family if the dead guy has any plans for the weekend.
Simple, they turned WoW into medieval troonyfornia and turned it into the most pozzed game available on the market at the moment. Nobody wants to look at homosexualry in every second quest or to have uglified women shoved in his face in his fantasy MMO. Woke = broke, and it's beautiful.
trans flight
And more things i made up
I dunno it's as if it was always shit and a moneygrab and that homosexual asmongold should be hanged for shilling it
Grifting is the name of the game now. Asmon goes somewhere else and suddenly all of his followers jump ship as well.
People are leaving WoW for XIV? better follow and do the same
>his hoards of literal NPC minions swarm the game
>eceleb grifters follow suit soon after and make clickbait "is this the WoW killer!? why is this game so great!? blizzard have competition!"
but wait New World is running a promotion which means asmon has to migrate over to there
>his hoards of literal NPC minions swarm the game
>eceleb grifters follow suit soon after and make clickbait "is this the XIV killer!? why is this game so great!? Square have competition!"
hold on a second did you just say Lost Ark released a new patch? asmon has to go grift to that game now because it's popular
>his hoards of literal NPC minions swarm the game
>eceleb grifters follow suit soon after and make clickbait "is this the amazon killer!? why is this game so great!? amazon games have competition!"
what did you just say? asmon gave his opinion about these games and somebody clipped it?
>eceleb grifters: reacting to asmon's take on [MMO]
>reacting to eceleb #1's reaction to asmon's take on [MMO]
>reacting to eceleb #2's reaction to eceleb #1's reaction to asmon's take on [MMO]
and the consensus is: [MMO] is dogshit. I know you liked it, but see asmon has already spoken and you, as an eceleb grifter, cannot have a differing opinion.
I don't care that your numbers are down because you spent the last 5 months hopping from one mmo to the next and parroting opinions of other streamers
follow the grift train or get lost in the fray like those other-less popular-youtubers who thought they could have a different opinion and a successful channel.
>Even their fricking bald goblin wont play it after grifting the drops money cause its so shit
>He'll be back to grift you again when new drops come cause it's fricking tanking then instantly quit again, for like the 20th time
>Blizzdrones will call this a win
EXPLAIN. NOW.
>How does it keep getting worse?
oh I don't know, let's see
>2010, butcher your best villain ending
>realize all the frick ups you've made along the way despite WotLK being successful
>do a 180 and try the opposite with Cata but you've already spoiled your players with simple content and pinata epics
>first mass exodus come CATA, people hate the revamp at large and Deathwing isn't known by most WotLK-babies and WoW-only players so they leave
>try to pander to chinks who mostly make your game shittier antagonizing even more of the player base who see Pandas as a joke from WC and it very much was before furrygays started defending them
>this also brings along a new type of homosexual who cries about "toxicity" and whatnot
>in order to appeal to the new player base, fire most of your old developers and artists
>keep a few icons here and there just so it's not obvious but the house of cards starts falling apart anyway
>seeing the train wreck that's about to unfold, some more of your old devs and workers jump ship
>release WoD, which is basically a mobile game with sitting on your garrison waiting for rewards
>release TBC 2.0 (Legion) because you have 0 creativity
>you kick off the few remaining good devs
>replace them with diversity hires, trannies and whatnot
>your game literally becomes a political agenda tool and you antagonize 99% of your loyal fan base, which ends up leaving
>be now more preoccupied with having gay dragons and lesbian gnomes than offering a good game
>lol we said we'd never do classic but here it is guise hahaha this certainly doesn't reek of desperation
>do nothing for it to be actually playable, gets infested with bots
>you were the homosexual ignoring all the signs and calling people "schizo" when they said this shit would happen back in 2010 and you kept shoving money down israeliteZZARD'S throat
>you're literally the cause of all this
Congrats.
WoTLK wasn't where the problems started to show, many people who played during vanilla were starting to see the downhill trend the company was taking.
>2004
>after a 2 year crunch, release WoW
>shortly after, fire all the developers that made the game
>developers are replaced by interns, onboard a bunch of people who were boss farmers from Everquest
>they have no clue on how to design a game
>slowly the direction of WoW turns from a casual MMO where the world is the most important character to an instanced content slog of sacrificing lore characters onto the raid alter
>it was a miracle that any content besides new raids were published
>TBC rolls out, the content cycle of "new patch = new raid" is well established
>cant have any content that isn't a raid
>want X? That will cost you a raid tier
>WoTLK release
>blizzard is starved for talent, but the game's popularity is about to reach it's peak
>rehash Naxx because "lol not enough resources"
>many veterans of the game find this incredibly lazy
>the game's churn rate increases, lots of people quitting but are being replaced by new players who enjoy the casual-friendly design that vanilla offered
>content droughts, ToC, a whole year of ICC
>any leveling content that is tweaked is done to make it easier to get to level cap quicker because raiders need to gear alt- i mean new players would benefit!
>sacrifice the game's original design for the "race to level cap and raidlog" playstyle that killed everquest
>ontop of that, shop mounts are introduced and Activision-Blizzard monetization starts creeping in
Yes and I believe I've made that obvious by saying "all the frick ups you made along the way" - the point more so being WotLK is when the cracks were showing themselves more overtly than ever before.
tbh it was truly over when Activision came into the scene.
they fricking fired the original devs right after the game release? fricking really? So glad I played this only in 2005 on a friend's account until level 42, when he told me the rest of the game would be just dungeon grinding for loot. I quit instantly and never looked back.
Never knew they fired the original devs after vanilla released. I guess Blizzard was always a scummy company, even without Activision. Makes sense since they fired the entire original Diablo 1 & 2 team. wienersuckers.
Asmongold hasn't made a DF video in over 10 days and the last one was commenting on DF player numbers dropping. That's how you know this shit is fricking dead and WoW is Youtube poison. The only Warcraft content people want to see is negative opinions.
>the rat flees the ship
Asmongoloid complains he has no content because he's too shit to raid or push high keys in modern WoW, unironically
>he thinks people want to watch high level raiding or mythic keys
lmfao. You live in a tard bubble dude.
iirc he gets decent viewership raiding.
Keys sure, but I hate running keys myself so.
Surely anything must be better than watching him watching videos and giving the most lukewarm "le based" takes ever?
If he thought it would get him views i'm sure he'd put effort into clearing it. Or he could get carried through it if he's shit as you say. Nah the real reason is people don't care about WoW anymore and only a niche audience of ERPing furgays and sunk-cost fallacy whales remain. You can tell from his content shift that he's trying his best to separate himself from WoW because he knows it's a sinking ship.
Naaah he's too deep in the MAZE for that. He'll never quit. It'll probably be WoW + reacting for the rest of his career. Maybe he'll play another mmo too.
>He'll never quit
True, but even he said that WoW viewership is the lowest it has ever been. He won't quit WoW but he also won't waste his time making content for it, especially if he can get way more views by reacting to other peoples videos.
revamp was a flop
Really? That was the main thing I was considering coming back for.
He's lying it's literally a massive success, of all things DF brought the crafting changes were actually good
He’s not lying, it’s fine for crafting, but as far as a profession goes where you actually feel like you can make money from it? It’s a fricking failure
Depends on what you wanted out of it. Cheaply gear alts? Success. Actually be a crafter who makes money? Abject failure.
>be leatherworker
>DF mats literally worth less than the skin I'd get from skinning boars in Durotar
how do I make money? I picked skinning and leatherworking. was that a mistake?
truth is, you're not making gold from professions
literally the only reason I've made any money whatsoever is because they added trash item transmogs. I'm a new player so I got a couple while leveling and I've probably made like 1.5k from them or so
wiener ass dood I hate this game dood AARGH dog shit game dood wienersuckers thanks for the 5 dollars donation thank you so much watch me get this mount WTF dood god ass game dood give me the mount already OH MY GAWD dood farming this mount for years already man Coldy got it like in one week dood mcconnel what you think of the game? what bad? no dood best mmo right now expansion is LITTY dood if I killed my mom? you banned I don't need to explain it to you stupid b***h you banned get out of my chat wiener ASS another wipe dood nooo who didn't do the mechanic? it's a two mechanic boss you just don't die you know what you kicked from the group dood I will not have my time wasted here dood get out of here anyway was really fun to play 10 minutes of World of Warcraft time to react for the rest of the stream
>"mtx bad >:("
>dumps thousands into lost ark
this mom killer needs to retire and frick off with his millions
carrying about WoW in 2023 is a mental illness
perfectly fine private servers have existed for decades now, if you get the itch that much just mess around on one of those(on a better expansion too)for a while and thats it, dont give nu-blizzard a single cent
>still no sales numbers revealed
Oh yeah.. why haven't they released the sales numbers? Kek'd, that's not a good sign.
I haven't played retail WoW for years, but I always watch the cinematics and stuff because Blizzard is just top notch when it comes to that, but Dragonflight was the first WoW cinematic release trailer where I got bored half way through and haven't even considered rewatching even once.. it was just so fricking bad and boring. It's a fricking launch trailer, it's suppose to hype you up to play the game and they can't even do that right anymore
They should've went with the various races doing cool things like the early trailers instead of rock man climbs a tower for 2 minutes.
Warlord's trailer sold me. That music was just so good
Their best one, even trumping lich king one
Its amazing that it also technologically better than even the recent cinematics
WoD cinematic was good, leveling zones were fine and the music was great. Sadly, raiding was trash and Garrison was just a big fat no.
Raiding is the one thing it was universally praised for. Blackrock Foundry was the peak of raiding.
It’s insane when you see how much of that game was scrapped just so it could come out in line with the garbage ass movie. WoD had way more potential than what we got
The lack of content was literally the only reason why WoD failed. Players weren't given enough endgame content to keep them engaged at release, and there were only two raids added through the expansion cycle.
Oddly enough despite the premise of WoD being moronic as frick, it had a pretty good leveling campaign and Yrel made my dick hard.
WoDs problem was always the endgame, not the leveling
I miss this guys channel so damn much bros. Why didn't he play any of the expansions? ;_;
BFA killed WOW. Legion was the last good expansion
>BFA killed WOW
and, unironically, Shadowlands bury it
>People turning on dragonriding
The frick? No. I haven't seen a single complaint about the riding itself. What people are pissed about is that your special, custom dragon can't even be mounted anywhere else but the Isles, despite dragonriding working fine in the old lands via Dracthyr. It's moronic.
Remember do not let Legiontards trick you into thinking that shit expansion was good
Legion started off strong but Argus was some of the worst content ever.
order halls & pirate spec for rogue were cool
ideas, mage tower was also neat
>what if we take their skills away and let them unlock them again with leveling a weapon instead of their character
was blatant bullshit
>mythic is ha-ACK
https://www.twitch.tv/naowh/clip/HedonisticGleamingPorpoiseFUNgineer-_3_K_eowcBt95rwT?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time
no one has ever claimed mythic is hard if you play on a regular basis. especially if you're spending 100+ hours a week playing and minmaxing to the point of steamrolling everything. the average moron could world first if they spent as much time playing as these losers
The first boss is usually just free loot. You can pug it easily?
>make char on classic wotlk, get to play on populated and active server
>make char on priv server, don't have to pay blizz
what do
private server, less to blizz is better. private probably has better community too
>private probably has better community too
it's mostly russians and south americans, which is why I wanted to play on classic
i never played classic, only retail so that's all I can speak to for community. I'd take my chances with non english speakers over the current people playing wow, besides there's gotta be some english speakers on there.
dogshit game, glad I quit
based
Holy frick meds
Your meds MA'AM
What happens if you reply to forum posts like that with " *puke* "
I
uber based
fpbp, threads over everyone can go home now
checked, and kekked
I don't get how to MMO genre turned into this bloated mess of streamlined garbage. Early MMOs let you do your own thing basically with few quests or necessary elements. Why did they stray so far and why haven't there been any successful ones since? Is it because ADHD zoomers are afraid of spending time on a video game or is it because the boomer crowd complaining they can't do anything since they have 10 kids, 5 wives, and 17 goldbergs to please?
It always amazes me that, as dogshit as the game is, people still fail to articulate that without resorting to lies or half truths. Easiest thing in the world to shit on this game without fallacies and somehow there are people like OP who fail.
Impressive feat honestly.
viral marketing, outrage over blatantly false shit keeps thread alive without work.
why are modern MMO players so fricking pathetic? this thread is just sad lol
I went home, and never again. I'm just happy to be free now
It was never good to begin with, just some pathetic ripoff, from being bad it turned even worse with whole woke shit instead of embracing the only goos thing they had, sexualizing species.
>sexualizing species
>implying elves and furshits are attractive
I was actually talking about orcs and dwarves but ok, if that gets you going anon.
>dwarvers
>ever sexy
>However, if the presumption is that this content will be tackled and cleared with the use of third-party tools, then any reason to develop high-difficulty battle content seems to be lost.
>It’s very difficult for me to understand as a gamer what the meaning behind using numerous third-party tools to compete to clear first would be.
Why are they shitting on WoW's endgame design?
df is bussin
If you play WoW in 2023 you are genuinely mentally ill
May it die in piss
Dragonflight is tight and even better now that FFXIV is the troony containment game
This but the other way around.
If Dragonflight can keep the mindbroken raidbucks in WoW and keep XIV relatively comfy, that's perfect.
>Friends tell me to play WoW again
>This time it'll be different
>Dragonflight is going to be the xpack that changes everything
>Play for two weeks
>Do some m+
>Clear the raid on heroic
>Nothing to outside of weekly M+ or Raid for gearing
>Get bored and quit
>They tell me that I should have expected that because that's how WoW xpacks are
>Mfw
$60 + $15/month cannot justify two weeks of half ass "content" before you get bored
Happened to me too. Hadn't played wow since old Wrath, and was excited to play something with my friends again since we've always had really different tastes in vidya. It was fun for a couple of weeks at least.
You did not clear HC Raid in two weeks lil man
We cleared it week one. Then did the first boss on mythic. Most of us are people who used to raid seriously but quit when raiding started requiring 3-4+ alts each tier.
Post clear logs lil bro, I refuse to believe you did HC week one
Heroic is old normal mode, lots of people clear it week one. I don't think anyone logged it either.
Raiding never has, but raiding competitively has required alts for a long time now. You end up way to far behind in gear if you're not running atleast 3-4 alt splits, most top guilds do 8-9+ nowadays.
Even now iirc only like 10-20% of guilds have actually killed HC Rasz. Most guilds are 7/8.
Your larp is super obvious saying you didn't log
You aren't from a competitive guild in the first place
I used to be, however I quit when 10 mans were killed in mop and the only option to keep playing seriously was to join a 20 man guild all of which required, at minimum, 3 alts.
Looking it up we actually killed razgorth us 94th. I thought we would have been 500+. I guess there's just not that many guilds playing nowadays.
Raiding has never required alts but cute larp
the game will live or die, but it will remain the best general on this website
tab targeting garbage was dated gameplay 10 years ago
Retail WoW is garbage but so is BDO, korean trash
Guild Wars is better
I've been casually MMO-hopping for the past month or so, since I've got nothing else to play. I tried out WOW, FF14, BDO, GW2, and TESO. One thing I can say for sure that WOW does better than the rest is the aesthetic, artistic design and visuals. I visited the classic starting zones, and although it looks dated now, I can imagine how enchanting it must've been back in the mid-2000s. The sense of wonder and exploration must've made it unforgettable for millions of people still speaking fondly of it today.
I have also never seen anything as impressive as Suramar in any of the other MMOs or other games in general. The music, design, lively feeling are all 10/10. It's maximum SOVL and comfy.
Is the new lore atleast good
Thats what you get from making a gay disney troony copy out of Warhammer
SAGE
Cope WoW gays
They shoulda stopped making expansions after legion and just went with WoW 2. This game needs a hard reset, the economy is hard fricked.
Thats weird
I was led to believe they unironically unfricked themselves with Dragonflight. Maybe not bombshell type work but they regained a level of competency
Who told you that? An addict?
As opposed to a Ganker poster telling him otherwise? Two very unbiased sources.
Cope harder. Everyone looks at you the same way you look at a meth head.
I care little if Blizzard goes under but I'm not gonna suck off moronic Gankerposters who post verifiably wrong things
The crafting system had one major issue to solve: Making crafting viable beyond the early expansion.
Instead we get an autistic gold sink
Ion will never allow crafting to distract from the raid funnel.
>Someone offers profession crafts for 10k
>offer the exact same thing for "tip whatever you want, all I have to do is press a button"
>get auto-banned because the dickheads doing it for 10k mass-report you
How fricking hard is it to hire some actual mods to just review reports?
>>yet again trying twitch drops to pump views as they dwindle to record lows
not to mention they gave away extremely valuable trading card-game loot as a twitch drop, which would be a massive slap in the face to veteran players
dragon sex