How extravagant do you like your kings?

How extravagant do you like your kings /tg/?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice commission bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know it is a commission?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >high resolution image
        >image hash search has no results
        >google image search had no results initially, and now has results leading to reddit almost exactly on the hour OP posted (16 hours ago)
        >there's at least one fa/tg/uy who spams his commission pictures on threads and creates overall low quality threads using his commissioned pictures

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a fan of a classic humble kingly figure, who recognizes his position on the throne as ultimately a form of servitude. Understanding of noble culture, and his need for sovereignty over the common masses, yet not above them as a common man. Think Aragorn / Elessar II.

          I wouldn't particularly say this thread is low quality. At the very least, the question invites actual discussion, and the image is pretty good. Then again, I haven't seen the other alleged low quality threads.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >humble kingly figure
            I’m trying to think of a good historical example for this. I’m sure there is one because the trope exists just can’t seem to think of a specific example though.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Frederick The Great, self proclaimed First Servant of Prussia.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he said that in the art thread
        he always posts his commission in the art thread, and then just makes a thread with it
        every time

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If they're not extravagant, they're not a king.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on their narrative role.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What narrative role would an non-extravagant king have?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Beggar King

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A seemingly pointless poor old man, who's actually a king, is a troupe that goes back a very long time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A king that dresses in modest robes, eats simple food and maintains a functional but minimally furnished palace gives an impression of modesty, severity and a confidence that he is the king without having to advertise it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          However, he may make people start wondering whether they even need to obey him.

          So he will need to make up for his lack in extravagance by being a famed soldier and administrator.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean if everything's running smooth most people probably won't complain either way. Government's like trash pick up. You really shouldn't pay much heed to it unless things are really cocked up.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              eh idk about that in a pre modern society. symbology and decorum and the apreciation of wealth/power is extremly important. there are hundreds of pages of papers on it.

              What narrative role would an non-extravagant king have?

              Could be a particularly religious king, or one that wants to cultivate such an image of peity. like a quaker whaler might be revoltingly rich, but might not even were buttons as it is seen as a nono in his sect for excess.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I mean if everything's running smooth most people probably won't complain either way

              Most people don't matter. The ones who keep a king in power are the ones who themselves are rich enough to afford an army they choose not to use to depose the king. A king that is not giving out generous gifts and living ostentatious is vulnerable to a duke/prince/noble who is more willing to provide largesse, because the nobility is fundamentally built around financial loyalty.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How much did that commission cost?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5 bills

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all. They must be as cleanly dressed as possible, but their accoutrement should reflect that these are leaders of war, meant to be taken seriously.

    No luxuries needed or wanted. Just be the war chief, the chief priest, and the supreme judge. Luxuries make you decadent and weak.

    Also, it helps reduce expenditure. Which in turns means less taxes and a wealthier populace, which means a richer and more disciplined realm that knows to be austere and practical.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Photo Anon

    If they're not as ostentatious as the Sun King, Louis XIV, then they are in need of renovation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. The French monarchy knew how to rule in style.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't their expenses drive the kingdom into crippling debt?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only sometimes. They definitely knew how to handle being a king. Probably the greatest monarchy that ever existed to be honest.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The system louis the XIVth had set up was pretty brilliant, but it could only work when managed by a man of Louis the XIVths caliber.
            The system in question consisted of bunching up all the nobility in versailles and making them captive there, not much intrigue could be done if you all lived in the same house as the king and the other quintillion courtiers, this system also requiered someone like louis to make it work properly.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Japanese did something similar during the Tokugawa shogunate and it lasted for several hundred years, until social unrest from renewed Western contact caused the Meiji Restoration.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like an effeminate fag.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably one of the greatest kings in history next to Charlemagne

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still looks an old gay I could heem in a 1 vs 1.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By that time kings weren’t warriors anymore.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're just jealous he's a 60 year old man with better calves than you

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck! He does have good calves.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People back in the day had good calves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The king should be going hard in one direction or the other, if you want your players to pay attention to him at all. Hearing about him openly berating the Duke of Ponceton for daring to complain there were no pork pies being served in the palace on Good Friday because "it's technically a fish!" is good. is good. Other strong traits like zeal, greed, or degeneracy are good, and can be expressed with his trappings of office. Otherwise he'll just be a background character, for better or worse.

      [...]

      At what point did she perform her duties?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends. Warrior Kings tend to be grizzled and spartan. Same with Philosopher kings.
    Most others tend to foppishness and overly ostentatious.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He did bring an entire monastic order into his circle and virtually made it the primary religion of the kingdom. The only controversy (which is a hush hush matter within the Church itself) is that the god like idol is possibly the Emperor himself which may or may not have lead to his untimely death/assassination.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like someone started slapping plates on him in GMod.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My king is a brutal warrior and not some foppish oaf.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a king modeled on Ludwig II of Bavaria, he's crippling the entire economy of his lands to build a magnificent palace. He's a lover of arts and likable person, yet naive and ruinous ruler. Ultimately he needs to be ousted, but I'm letting the players come to that realization themselves without too much railroading.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're obviously a great trope and have their place in stories, but I've been on a kick for the more no nonsense "I got a kingdom to run" kind of kings. More like Lord Vetinari, the Patrictian from the Discworld books.

    I love the idea of a leader that understands their people at a foundational level and knows how to compromise to keep everything running in a way that keeps things STABLE. Not good, but stable. The kind of king that allows organized crime because it's certainly better than disorganized crime.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lord Vetinari let the old crime bosses go legitimate because it made them easier to control and he could fold them into his government as enforcers and administrators. It also made them easier to deal with as they grew complacent and started living in mansions rather than hideouts, started hiring butlers rather than thugs and then Vetinari informed them that they would have to start abiding by some standards and also that he now knew where they lived, what school their children went to and where their wives went to get their hair done. He liked organized crime because it was easier to deal with.

      The other good kings on Discworld were King Verence I & II of Lancre. The former didn't seem to go in for the usual royal bling because his hobbies were drinking, hunting and fathering bastards. The second Verence lived very austere due to his former life as the court jester. Neither Verence were really very good rulers but that was fine because the people of Lancre weren't good at being ruled.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Queen is dead. Long live the king.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice tie fuckface.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not yet jug ears.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's King Jug-Ears III to you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Queen is dead. Long live the king.

        I take it back, it does appear that she's departed. Long live king Big Ears.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s really only acceptable to say if you’re Irish.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We know he isn't. The Irish aren't literate.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Americans can say whatever they want about her.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends honestly. If the Kingdom is decadent you bet the King is a fatfuck decked out in garden gnomeels and status symbols. Though not always, I usually like to set my standard with Foltest from Witcher 2, as he just seems so fuggin' cool to me. But once again not always, just depends on my tastes at the time, what kind of Kingdom he runs, and whatever art/commissions I've horded

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends. If I want to portray a corrupt, ineffective monarch, then yeah, usually I make them pretty extravagant. Otherwise I have a lazy tendancy to portray them as humble

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very. Cheers from Ganker

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OG chad.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Like all monarchs, she was a parasite on society.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is actually society that is the parasite on the monarch.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >She had three sons.

    You know what, fair play.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If a King is extravagant beyond public ceremony he should be killed.

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