How the frick is he so good at making both games and music

How the frick is he so good at making both games and music

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Severe autisim

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not.
    He literally depends on others to make it for him.
    He is an ideas guy, and not even a good one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. a clueless zoomtard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stop projecting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much he just resold Earthbound to the next generation and tumblr ate that shit up, same with Stardew Valley.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he resold Homestuck you moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Homestuck
          I didn't want to remember that homosexual shit at all, thanks. When I saw what kind of garbage the new generation was enjoying at the time I knew it was over for the internet.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Deltarune chapter 2 was the breaking point for me
            Undertale was whatever, too easy but kinda fun
            Delta chapter 1 was kinda neat, but too easy
            Delta chapter 2 went too hard on the random lulz humor and hints of homestuck writing that I couldn't even finish it without skipping all the dialogue
            >Also that one punch out fight that even Enter The Gungeon did better

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bruh undertale was basically repackaged more accessible homestuck

              speaking of homestuck I still think Toby's best work is on homestuck

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          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't Homestuck a millenial/zillenial thing

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              *millennial/zillennial

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't Homestuck a millenial/zillenial thing

                yes, but now it's a zoomer thing too with Deltarune

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    High IQ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he made that earthbound romhack in high school and still got top grades, even learning to write original music for it (which hadn't even been done at that point.) unironically yes he is probably a genius.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even learning to write original music for it (which hadn't even been done at that point.)
        Original music for a fricking romhack? Are you a israelite?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, for an earthbound romhack specifically, with the extremely limited software available to hack that game. Apparently it was a massive pain in the ass to get it to work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Made romhack with custom music at 16, never having composed music before then, with one of those tracks being by far his most well known piece
        > making games since he was 10 years old
        > self-taught pianist
        > learned to play songs by ear, w/ videos of him playing songs by request on the spot just by translating what he remembers in his head to piano with no prior prep, the result being a pretty faithful recreation of the song
        > posted piano covers of Homestuck that were apparently good enough to attract attention and get him on the music team, though he never composed using a DAW before
        > Despite that, dramatically outpaced the other musicians on Homestuck in terms of speed of putting good music that ended up used out. Apparently learned FL and composing beyond piano fast enough to basically steal the show from other people who largely had more years of experience in that type of composition
        > seemingly breezed through school as he's doing the rest of this
        > Throughout it all still had more than enough free time to do complete shitposts like The Baby is You
        Toby Fox is the poster child for "you either have it or you don't" as a concept. There is no becoming a person like this; you're either born with this and you would know it pretty early in your life or you have to struggle for years to just pitifully manage even one of these sorts of achievements. If I had to guess a number for it he's probably like 1 in 100000.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's over

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, you just have to struggle way, way more than someone like him. Though for more people it is over in the sense that they have to pick their battles because they can't be as talented in so many areas. Most people can't be a musician, artist, programmer, writer, etc. all in one. Tbf neither can Toby... after all these years he still can't draw. Idk if he just has no interest or if there's a legit mental block there

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Toby really only excels at music, but he's good at working with what he has. He's not a good programmer so he made a small game with simple mechanics. He's not a good artist so he makes simple pixel art and funny looking shitposts. Honestly even his writing isn't that good but it doesn't matter because he focuses more on making fun characters that people like. He's not smart enough to be good at everything but he's smart enough to make something really good despite lacking in every area that isn't music. People get frustrated and quit when they aren't 200iq renaissance men, but all you have to do is be really good at one thing and learn how to work around the limitations you have in other areas.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the truth. I suck at music in particular but spent a long time messing around with other people’s midi sheet music, padded in some royalty free stuff I also remixed and spliced slightly and managed to put together a full 3 hour soundtrack for my future dream game after off and on tinkering for years. Learned a lot and scrapped hours worth of other stuff in the process, including entire builds I had for previous demos but it’s only when you spend years honing your skills in all these different areas do you really begin to understand what it takes to put together the best project possible. Although he also had a lot of help in many areas as well, I do all my stuff solo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah totally agree. Undertale's core strength is that it doesn't try to be more than it is, or more than what its creator can handle. I don't think Deltarune will be bad necessarily, but I wonder if it's running into the mistake of trying to be more than what it realistically can be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *excels at copying music

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Tbf neither can Toby... after all these years he still can't draw.
              He draws shitty on purpose so people can meme up the intentionally bad concept art. Literally something he learned living with Andrew Hussie, who did the same thing (ugly-fying his art style into Hussnasty and scribble mode, plus diving deep into how specifically skilled you have to be to know how to make something intentionally awful in a way that still makes people repost it with Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff). Toby did all the art for the Halloween Hack and it's perfectly fine, good even.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's bad... on purpose

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I fricking love Andrew Hussie in a no-homosexual non-parasocial way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the opm webcomic is good for it's writing, not it's art. in fact, the manga would be 10 times better if it simply followed the webcomic's story and just improved the art, but sadly it didn't and now the webcomic stands alone as being the only way to experience the full story of opm without it becoming doodoo feces

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its both, anon. just because you think it looks bad doesn't mean it's "bad art"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i didn't say the webcomic has BAD art, i didn't say that. it's definitely appealing, but the manga did improve it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's the modern example that probably fits better in terms of popularity, but the point is toby intentionally dumbing down to that level instead of it being the best he can do like one punch man is
                if you can hit the uncanny valley described by the huss at B on purpose, while normally drawing at a C, then you can just as easily hit the little upward curve before it around A where the scribbles actually rise in popularity to match your normal visual appeal, which is what he does with his funny twitter concept art
                of course it also adds some humanization (not to be confused with humanimalization) to the 'reclusive game dev in japan' persona he's built- people love the idea that this infallible man with millions of dollars and nintendo on speed-dial is still afflicted by being unable to draw (he isn't) just like them (they are)

                I fricking love Andrew Hussie in a no-homosexual non-parasocial way.

                he was a gift

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and you know he's based because he kinnies vriskie OwO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I get what you're implying but this point is nullified by how pretentious Toby's work is

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How do you figure? I'm not trying to be rude here, I'm actually interested since usually no one believes my 'Toby is intentionally being shit' thesis. The pretentiousness of the 'player bad, don't play the game you paid for >:(' games themselves isn't much affected by scribbles outside of it that don't show up in the game itself, but DO serve to enhance his carefully curated persona like mentioned in

                that's the modern example that probably fits better in terms of popularity, but the point is toby intentionally dumbing down to that level instead of it being the best he can do like one punch man is
                if you can hit the uncanny valley described by the huss at B on purpose, while normally drawing at a C, then you can just as easily hit the little upward curve before it around A where the scribbles actually rise in popularity to match your normal visual appeal, which is what he does with his funny twitter concept art
                of course it also adds some humanization (not to be confused with humanimalization) to the 'reclusive game dev in japan' persona he's built- people love the idea that this infallible man with millions of dollars and nintendo on speed-dial is still afflicted by being unable to draw (he isn't) just like them (they are)
                [...]
                he was a gift

                ; I wouldn't say they're mutually exclusive with the fart-huffing he's had since the Halloween Hack's identical 'player bad' theme.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Toby Fox's work is about as far from pretentious as you can even get. It's 90% a meme and 10% touching moments. Do people even fricking know what pretentious means or is that just catch-all for "it's popular so i dont like it"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Toby Fox's work is about as far from pretentious as you can even get.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >symbolism is pretentious
                okay moron. you literally had to find this info to even be mad about it. they dont talk about any of that in game. god you are so fricking stupid i dont even want to continue with you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i accept your concession and somehow complete misinterpretation of that as symbolism
                > they dont talk about any of that in game.
                quite literally, the second thing susie says to you, ten minutes into chapter 1, is "your choices don't matter," word for word

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people saying words is pretentious
                u

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the depth to any of this though? Why should I give a flying frick about it?
                >Just you wait
                Ok I'm sure it'll all unfold and be AMAZING

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just you wait, but for real. 🙂

                dimensional merge soon, traveler

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My game makes it very clear that you are empowered when you aren't choosing anything, really, and it feels awful. It makes you feel cheated. And I think that's pretty good, because that's exactly what I set out to do.
                The whole latter half of that image is somewhere between Spec Ops: The Line and Phil Fish on a scale of "hose hooked up from ass to mouth," come on now. And it would be understandable since he was a silly teenager making a romhack with a bunch of ideas in his head at the time but now it's 16 years later and he's writing the same thing again except this time he's charging you money for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fez was actually good though and 99% of the people who tell you its bad never actually played it, people online just told them the creator was mean

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and undertale isn't objectively bad, and spec ops is a manageable if boring shooter, that doesn't mean they aren't up their own asses

                One or two of these are even close, most of them are complete fabrications and some of them are legitimately homages to older gamesand media toby liked. Why does Ganker have to be so fricking moronic all the time, I want to go back to 2011 where people used to just circlejerk about goat mom.

                toby turned into a dick

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Toby isn't gonna think it's as empowering when I give him no choice when I flop my throbbing erection onto his face.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i accept your concession
                Probably four of the worst words for morons to get a hold of.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WHAT IS SYMBOLIC ABOUT ANY OF THAT

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I read this in Alex's voice and it fits really well

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit Deltarune fans think anything is deep. This shit was pathetic to read. Most easily impressed audience I've ever encountered.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1% of Deltarune fans actually read about the Halloween Hack and Toby's blog posts behind it, and they sure don't think it's deep, which is the point. The other 99% don't even think about that shit until a Youtube video tells them about THE HIDDEN THEMES OF DELTARUNE YOU MISSED and are only there for furry porn.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, toby made this game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what did he mean by this?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The game had the same plot as the pic was describing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretentious means something acting like it's deep when it's not. You can't tell me Deltarune and Undertale aren't like this. Especially Deltarune, at least Undertale had a message about non violence that applied more to real life (though not that well) more than Deltarune. What's the depth to Deltarune?
                >You are like.... bad for controlling Kris. YOU HAVE... NO LE CHOICES!!!!
                Wow so deep!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the full game isn't out you trog. how are you assessing a story that hasnt been completely told to you yet? think.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Two chapters are out. And I've seen enough in the first alone to know Toby is pretentious. Shit, I got that from Undertale. Just slap some sad piano music onto a monster crying and apparently it's so damn deep.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but DID you LEARN THE [TRUTH] ABOUT [MR PIPIS]

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Toby Fox's work is about as far from pretentious as you can even get.
                Shut that ass up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >le quirky 2d earthbound inspired indie rpgs with artsy pixel-esque graphics
                >not pretentious

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Counterpoint: genocide's ending and pacifist post-ending

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty sure it's just right time right place. He struck the right chord with his furbait, but it's not that amazing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Toby Fox is the poster child for "you either have it or you don't" as a concept. There is no becoming a person like this; you're either born with this and you would know it pretty early in your life or you have to struggle for years to just pitifully manage even one of these sorts of achievements. If I had to guess a number for it he's probably like 1 in 100000.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >never having composed music before then
          incorrect
          > self-taught pianist
          incorrect
          toby literally went to school for this shit and got fancy music education in his all-white upper class Massachusetts private school, this is easily googled information

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There is no becoming a person like this; you're either born with this and you would know it pretty early in your life
          Does being a narcissist my entire life and not giving a shit what people say while genuinely believing my ms paint scribbles are more appealing than qualityslop count

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you just said
          >musically gifted
          5 times then made assumptions about his life (which you know nothing about)
          also rpgmaker games don't count for "making games since he was 10 years old"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >T.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Made romhack with custom music at 16, never having composed music before then, with one of those tracks being by far his most well known piece
          To be fair I've seen plenty of Sonic ROM hackers with similar chops. But they rarely go on to develop anything original.
          Shame I never made it even though I was into all this stuff since I was like 10. I'm now 30 and it's too late to be a little moron prodigy after failing to launch.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he made that earthbound romhack in high school and still got top grades, even learning to write original music for it (which hadn't even been done at that point.) unironically yes he is probably a genius.

      > Made romhack with custom music at 16, never having composed music before then, with one of those tracks being by far his most well known piece
      > making games since he was 10 years old
      > self-taught pianist
      > learned to play songs by ear, w/ videos of him playing songs by request on the spot just by translating what he remembers in his head to piano with no prior prep, the result being a pretty faithful recreation of the song
      > posted piano covers of Homestuck that were apparently good enough to attract attention and get him on the music team, though he never composed using a DAW before
      > Despite that, dramatically outpaced the other musicians on Homestuck in terms of speed of putting good music that ended up used out. Apparently learned FL and composing beyond piano fast enough to basically steal the show from other people who largely had more years of experience in that type of composition
      > seemingly breezed through school as he's doing the rest of this
      > Throughout it all still had more than enough free time to do complete shitposts like The Baby is You
      Toby Fox is the poster child for "you either have it or you don't" as a concept. There is no becoming a person like this; you're either born with this and you would know it pretty early in your life or you have to struggle for years to just pitifully manage even one of these sorts of achievements. If I had to guess a number for it he's probably like 1 in 100000.

      You can stop posting now Toby.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >music
    plagiarized
    >games
    hack taking 6 years to make a pixel rpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plagarized
      source?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        are you guys gonna post the ""evidence""" again?
        i can't wait to point and laugh

        not plagiarized really but quite a few of the songs sound very similar to songs from other games here is an example i could find, another is the lava area song sounds like a song from cave story, there is a video with more but can't fnd it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's how literally all music works.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lmfao ok then
            what's this one plagiarizing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juVZ0TN_2EA

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sounds like a song from cave story
          that was the intention, he likes cave story. this shit will blow your mind, can't believe toby fox even plagiarized the instruments :O

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lava area song sounds like a song from cave story
          wtf no it doesn't
          it just uses the drum samples from the program pixel made and released for people to, you know, make music with

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >DUH, WHAT IS SAMPLING?!

          Nice drama bait, homosexual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This thread
            >toby is a genius savant
            >ackshually toby isn't that talented, he's only good at some things, i-it's not like i ADMIRE h-him or anything

            gays

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Inb4 muh homage

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxGKf6OhOA
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBB3_rFPjg

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LOKIyJvMA
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZz8L-pGYc
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMDFhjpMTEY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrUem9vM_A
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb22li36dJg
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfS5zVfGBc
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaihhlZ3QaU&t=65s

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJdlmOQl6A
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeid-bIRQA

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qjt_1geiI
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o251comtNfk

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBhz7lb8VGI
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlKHChbEcps

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAjnqQ-DTLI
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aRE_J4UvYM

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPG3cGxtJU
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LmMCuGjfA

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-y-tEuCPY8
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8o_VdvFpk

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGkPieR6nk
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXwybuWRS8E

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHly6zadTq0
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7aXqjcUWMs

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqB1lOiH6A
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxyxByJPP0

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIjLUsH2yI
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuEWw648jo

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fetbSh89s
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this list is either actual homages
          (inspector gadget, turnabout twins, FF song, spongebob, 009 soundsystem), rare musical coincidence, or outright bullshit that only sounds similar to someone who doesn't know what he's hearing. all told, it's a fricking embarassing sheet of evidence for "plagiarism", and if you think it's compelling evidence you're musically moronic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The people that bring up the "plagiarism" don't actually care about it being true or not, they just hate Toby Fox and will reach for reasons to shit on him

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only the Kirby one was compelling, and even that was probably just a subconscious slip-up.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >rip off melody
            >call it a homage
            >absolved of all accusation
            It absolutely shouldn't work like this. Either you outright say "Yeah, I took the melody from x song because I liked it and wanted to work it into something else" or you plagiarized it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Game advertises itself as being full of references to 90s JRPGs and Weeb Culture
          >Ganker still completely mindbroken that there's references to 90s JRPGs and Weeb Culture in it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not all of those are 90s jrpgs or weeb culture

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's semantics, they are all incredibly on the nose references. Gaster's theme isn't even a ff7 reference, both songs are just the X-files theme.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm nta that posted the songs, but I think it's fine to do an homage, as long as credit is given

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone else already knows it's reference heavy, Ganker is just mindbroken at being too slow to realize that Undertale is just a Weeb Borderlands.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                difference is the references are obscure and inessential. they're in there but the game doesn't depend on them at all, toby just likes referencing his favourite things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Obscure
                In what world are Final Fantasy, Power Rangers, Kirby, Zelda, and Phoenix Wright 'obscure'? Even Gen A are familiar with Earthbound music at this point.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That death by glamour one was obscure, and it sounds to similar for me to say it's a coincidence

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That death by glamour one is a pretty raunchy comparison

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is VERY nintendo to steal songs from others.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dating Start. Spear of Justice, Snowdin, CORE, and Your Best Friend are real plagiarism. The rest is kinda schizo.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He listed Gadobadorrer as a direct inspiration, the Kirby one is obviously copied, Persona ones are likely given that SMT inspired the game, the Inspector Gadget one is also obvious, the Final Fantasy ones are homages, the Power Rangers one is also an homage since it plays during the giant robot part in the game

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Some of this is so blatant that he’s one step away from a lawsuit. That step requires one of you idiots contacting the legal team of these company’s games and he will immediately have to pay back for damages but no. You complain and don’t do anything

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you think it should be done then why are you not doing anything about it? Hypocrite

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao wow some of those are straight up plagiarized. interesting

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          memetale sisters... our response???

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing. We got BTFO.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bruh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit that's very suspicious

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what about these

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            toby said he was directly inspired by touhou so its fine

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ZUN blatantly stole OST from Megami Tensei and Pokemon so it's fine.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >ZUN
              did he?
              i knew he 'stole' a bunch from classical music, but that's actually, unironically fine, since it's public domain

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cirno theme song is a blatant ripoff from Pokemon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How the frick is steaming other peoples ideas and passing them it off as your own fine? Just because it's legal?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *stealing

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Inb4 muh homage

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxGKf6OhOA
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBB3_rFPjg

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LOKIyJvMA
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZz8L-pGYc
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMDFhjpMTEY

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrUem9vM_A
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb22li36dJg
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfS5zVfGBc
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaihhlZ3QaU&t=65s

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJdlmOQl6A
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeid-bIRQA

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qjt_1geiI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o251comtNfk

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBhz7lb8VGI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlKHChbEcps

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAjnqQ-DTLI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aRE_J4UvYM

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPG3cGxtJU
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LmMCuGjfA

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-y-tEuCPY8
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8o_VdvFpk

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGkPieR6nk
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXwybuWRS8E

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHly6zadTq0
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7aXqjcUWMs

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqB1lOiH6A
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxyxByJPP0

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIjLUsH2yI
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuEWw648jo

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fetbSh89s
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc

            AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH MUSIC EXISTS IN DEFINED CHORD STRUCTURES ALL MUSIC IS THEFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT NOTHING IS ORIGINALLLLLLLLLLLL

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co9mW_9hH2g

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Using the same chord progression is very different from using the same melody, key, rhythm and bpm while just tweaking some small things here and there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              same guy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One or two of these are even close, most of them are complete fabrications and some of them are legitimately homages to older gamesand media toby liked. Why does Ganker have to be so fricking moronic all the time, I want to go back to 2011 where people used to just circlejerk about goat mom.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This has been a single guy sperging out since around 2 weeks after Undertale came out, and MAY be the same sperg that blew $2000 on scat porn trying to get Undertale banned on Ganker back when the demo got popular in 2013.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >2000$
              qrd?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its bad because its popular, so people only Ganker who only have contrarianism to cling to as a personality trait poison the well

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It being popular isn't the whole thing. Is the popularity combined with how middling the games are, combined with Toby's fart huffing

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >muhh you only hate on it cause it's popular
              plebbit is that way, newfriend

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's because his games are highly overrated. Not sure about the plagiarism but some of those songs are really similar, only have a problem with that if he isn't giving due credit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say that at best some of the similar sounding ones are just unconscious memetic mutation of songs because I think Toby has played a frick ton of old JRPGs. Listing the final fantasy song is just egregious because that is a direct and unapologetic reference where a character is singing a forlorn but satirical love song to you before you're dropped into a death trap room.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Undertale got about 1 year before Ganker realized tumblr liked it too and decided to hate it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mom said it was my turn to post this this week! I'm telling!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Megalovania can be excused since Toby admitted that he tried to recreate the song but ended up messing up the melody. In the end he still liked it so it became its own thing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          omelette du frhomage

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holy fricking autism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        not plagiarized really but quite a few of the songs sound very similar to songs from other games here is an example i could find, another is the lava area song sounds like a song from cave story, there is a video with more but can't fnd it

        That's how literally all music works.

        >sounds like a song from cave story
        that was the intention, he likes cave story. this shit will blow your mind, can't believe toby fox even plagiarized the instruments :O

        this list is either actual homages
        (inspector gadget, turnabout twins, FF song, spongebob, 009 soundsystem), rare musical coincidence, or outright bullshit that only sounds similar to someone who doesn't know what he's hearing. all told, it's a fricking embarassing sheet of evidence for "plagiarism", and if you think it's compelling evidence you're musically moronic.

        The point is that he's "good" at making music by taking melodies he likes, slightly remixing them, and then passing them off as his own, which is not an impressive artistic feat in any way regardless of your feelings towards the final result. He's more like a friend that can recommend you good music than a talented original composer.

        https://streamvi.com/watch/1800055523878752

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The point is that he's "good" at making music by taking melodies he likes, slightly remixing them, and then passing them off as his own, which is not an impressive artistic feat in any way regardless of your feelings towards the final result. He's more like a friend that can recommend you good music than a talented original composer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess it makes sense, most weeb shit is stolen from us so it's only fitting he'd do much of the same

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Man, that's not a comprehensive list. What about rudebuster, or asgore's theme? Obviously he can write great music

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah for Asgore's theme he ripped off my favorite song, I could tell you what song but I don't want to post it here

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fingers in his butt

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            With artists notorious for pilfering ideas it's not a matter of if but when will their "inspirations" be revealed

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Mario was just a plumber

              How long they kept this hidden

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Either that, or the paltry half-baked list of supposed "sources" was never where the music came from in the first place, and if you do a comprehensive audit of any simple melody there's a good chance you'll find something like it somewhere.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This

                There's solid evidence for a lot of them being direct inspirations even outside the similarities

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the paltry half-baked list of supposed "sources" was never where the music came from in the first place,
                Yeah Toby never played Touhou or a JRPG in his life, he also never saw a single anime ever nor did he tweet about the FUN song

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That wasn't counting the obvious homages, which if you think those are good evidence of plagiarism i don't know what to tell you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is he homaging Kirby's Block Ball in half the game's tracks

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ones that aren't homages are the most dauntingly similar melodies thoughever

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is he homaging Kirby's Block Ball in half the game's tracks

                Block ball and Mettaton are similar enough that they may be the original germ from which toby built those songs. That's still a tiny amount of credible examples, and hardly enough to paint toby as a weak or derivative composer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's still a tiny amount of credible examples
                Half the game's tracks are "homages" and the other half are built on the leitmotifs from the ones that are obvious ripoffs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you might not think that's plagiarized at first, but if you listen to my musical magic eye puzzle you might kind of think he maybe plagiarized something or other

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Slightly remixing them
          What a wild way to just say you're a moron

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          His music also insists on itself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Making
      He stole most of the songs from "his" games and almost all the designs were taken by paid for labor (people literally paid money to do what normally is a person's job).

      are you guys gonna post the ""evidence""" again?
      i can't wait to point and laugh

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He cares about what he's making
    And He cares that it's something that makes you happy.
    People generally stuggle with one or both of these things.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And He cares that it's something that makes you happy.
      lol

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >games
    Undertale's code is notoriously spaghetti, but it works because the game is relatively small in scale. He was new to programming at the time of making the game though so its excusable
    >music
    Spent a lot of time working on it.
    It isn't hard to become good at stuff you do over and over, he's been doing music for most of his life

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're not that good but it is consistent throughout and consistent pieces are difficult
    the music is pretty memetic

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Games
    Autism
    >Music
    Practice

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he liked doing it

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His music is good, not so sure about his games though

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TOBY FOX OWES ME DEER SEX

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He wants that deer
      Get the frick outta here

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Making
    He stole most of the songs from "his" games and almost all the designs were taken by paid for labor (people literally paid money to do what normally is a person's job).

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ghost writer

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the characters in Toby Fox games sometimes but the actual stories and game feel unfinished and lazy. Everyone likes the 4th wall breaking shit but it comes across as so pretentious. Especially Deltarune, it's really trying to hype the player up and I have a feeling it's only going to result in blue balls.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Still waiting for Deltarune
      He ran with the money, just accept this simple fact

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the money
        Deltarune is free

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Yeah what money? Toby doesn't have good business ethic, not charging money for your games is stupid as frick

          The merch money, it's the oldest trick in the book
          >Promise a finished product that will totally be the coolest shit ever
          >Release a bunch of merch for your "product"
          >Tease the product with the illusion of content to come to bait even more sales, be it with demos or trailers and such
          >Never actually finish it and run with the merch money before gays realize they got scammed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That would be kinda funny but he's probably going to make more chapters, especially since he said the next ones will no longer be free. If it never gets finished it'll probably be due to incompetency and not some genius plan to scam fans.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You mean the merch Toby actively refuses to make of UT characters bar Ralsei for extremelly autistic reasons

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why does he do that? So stupid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the money
        Deltarune is free

        Yeah what money? Toby doesn't have good business ethic, not charging money for your games is stupid as frick

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also damn this homosexual is still going.
    It's been a decade.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Games
    He made ONE game and is taking forever to give a partial update to the second game.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kys homosexual OP

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Make a game about le power of friendship
    >abandon everyone you know for Japan

    uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh based?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually he did the same as Frisk, he abandoned his place of origin for mysterious reasons and went to a completely different place to get friends there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby is definitely one of those guys who went to japan expecting every azn girl to spread her legs at the sight of his american dollar

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        except they actually did
        every newsletter he's collabing with another japanese singer he fricked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, at the sight of his american dollar, he ain't pulling b***hes otherwise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >friendship is power
      >therefore the best way to become more powerful is to abandon your current friends to get new, better ones
      based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who is that in the window?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Some butler that toby hired while he was working on undertale, that's where the kickstarter money went.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is the plot of deltarune
        >you either make your friends stronger or build an army that vadtly outnumbers them
        I see everything now

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You fricking homosexual. You piece of shit. You owe me everything! YOU OWE ME EVERYTHING, AND WHAT DO YOU GIVE ME? I BUILT YOU! I BUILT YOU, AND I CAN TEAR YOU DOWN STILL!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hussie is too schizo and obsessed with himself to ever see the reality of how badly he's lost. he still thinks of toby as his little buddy even now i'd bet.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While played out at this point, the meta part was what genuinely made people stay.
    The feeling that the game was alive and trying to communicate with you through the smallest changes in each playthrough.
    The ARG of sorts inside the game code that tells a secret story and people which people are still speculating about to this day. All done in poor code which only heightens the charm factor.
    Dude struck gold

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's bad at coding but by the time it released, nobody played the game on a Core 2 Quad machine.
    Muffet fight is the Blighttown of Undertale for the Switch port.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey guys, check out this cool Mario homage!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby be like
      7 Grand Person

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Steal ideas or pay someone else to help you out. No one's really going to care about either in the end.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Autism.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Half of Undertale's soundtrack is homages that literally use the soundfonts of the songs he's "plagiarizing"

    But the melodies are always all new, it's just the instrumentation that's copied. He still composed everything from scratch by himself, to sound nostalgic but new. And even the best composers struggle to put out this many good songs at this pace.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Asriel's theme is better than megalomaniac or whatever it's called. Sans is overrated too by the way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?si=YT27sevI5JNuaV5q
      This mogs both of them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think not

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Megalovania's popularity isn't because it's the best song, it's because it was already a meme song before Undertale even came out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Megalovania was already a popular song due to Homestuck though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hussie literally asked for megalovania because of it's appearance in the halloween hack.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hopes and Dreams / SAVE the World is my favorite, but I also can't separate it from the emotional climax & catharsis it is associated with. I think The World Revolving might be his best single.

      Megalovania's popularity isn't because it's the best song, it's because it was already a meme song before Undertale even came out.

      Megalovania was already a popular song due to Homestuck though.

      Guys, the popularity of Undertale & Sans dwarfs Megalovania's previous usage by like five orders of magnitude. The vast, vast majority of people who know Megalovania know it from Sans Undertale either seriously or from the memes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Megalovania became popular in Undertale because of its established meme status. All memes start small, idiot. Most people don't know trollface because they saw it here but it still became popular thanks to us. And when I say us I probably just mean me, since Ganker is all underage newbies.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's only so many ways to rearrange 12 unique notes, it's unironically coincidental for a majority of the "plagiarism" (though some are definitely still references like Dating Start -> Kirby's Block Ball/Turnabout Sisters, I think Toby's explicitly confirmed the Turnabout Sisters one too)
    Do you really think Toby's heard of some random obscure shit like By God Forsaken and decided to base a whole song on it? Obscure weeb references are one thing but nobody's fricking heard of that
    Also some of the "plagiarized" songs sound literally nothing like each other

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey so I literally JUST finished Deltarune chapter 2. Fun, Ralsei a cute, Susie & Noelle a cute, wavedashing, crazy cliffhanger etc.
    Do we know why Kris is the only human in town?
    I don't remember there being any sign of humans in Cyber World. And that's literally the internet.
    But, Susie mentions there are "giant human" godzilla movies the same were there are giant monster godzilla movies, so there's at least that.
    You can find the book "How to care for Humans" in the library 2nd floor which Toriel has checked out before. If Kris reads it then it says there are "pictures of unfamiliar humans" that disturb you. Weird? Weird that it's even called "How to care for humans" and not "for human children", but maybe I'm reading too far into that?
    If there was some kind of human genocide, you'd have to ask why Kris is allowed in this town and basically nobody minds? I imagine humans are at least fellow citizens wherever they may be, since everyone treats Kris like a fellow person. Burgerpants says you're his little buddy, etc.
    Maybe the world is highly sequestered, perhaps by continental basis?
    Any leading community theories?
    >The town/world is fake
    This is by far the worst option because it's just not interesting and asks us to not take any of the information we do get as usable. So I'm ignoring that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The answer is nobody knows, not even Toby.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >walk down empty corridor
    >read text dump of lore off signs on walls
    >run into quirky character, they say something quirky
    >play babies first schmup
    Nice gameplay you got there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're forgetting the most important element: queer furry romance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't imagine why you're in the thread in 2024. You could grit your teeth and bare Undyne/Alphys in 2015, but Deltarune has something in the water supply turning the freaking frogs gay.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The theme Lost Girl plays during this scene, because Noelle Lost, and Girl isn't getting together with Susie.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              based

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that /sus/?
                Based btw, but I wouldn't waifu Susie for this exact reason. Toby is a ticking time bomb for cringe writting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was originally on Ganker

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goat sexo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What happened to this artist? They fell off the face of the earth right after doing my gay Krusie comm.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but unfortunately it's tainted by all the
        >Feel bad for Kris
        shit. If it was just a dating simulator with monsters, it'd be far better

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. sweet jesus ass pounding fricking christ.
      i can't believe people enjoy this shit. yes the music is catchy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who jerks off UT's gameplay can only be described as a tasteless subhuman who's easily influenced by mob mentality tbh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Undertale is for people who most enjoy gameplay that is informed by strong context. What you do in undertale is simple, but the context you do it in--as part of a battle with a quirky interesting monster while great music plays--is exciting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The context is an autistic furry tumblrgay's fever dream, if that's something you consider exciting then I have some bad news

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Decade+ of perfecting his craft and also autism and also being a genius

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do I give myself autism?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm being completely unironic btw I want autism so I can become a creative/musical savant prodigy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're probably autistic about something already just lean into that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Made romhack with custom music at 16, never having composed music before then, with one of those tracks being by far his most well known piece
          > making games since he was 10 years old
          > self-taught pianist
          > learned to play songs by ear, w/ videos of him playing songs by request on the spot just by translating what he remembers in his head to piano with no prior prep, the result being a pretty faithful recreation of the song
          > posted piano covers of Homestuck that were apparently good enough to attract attention and get him on the music team, though he never composed using a DAW before
          > Despite that, dramatically outpaced the other musicians on Homestuck in terms of speed of putting good music that ended up used out. Apparently learned FL and composing beyond piano fast enough to basically steal the show from other people who largely had more years of experience in that type of composition
          > seemingly breezed through school as he's doing the rest of this
          > Throughout it all still had more than enough free time to do complete shitposts like The Baby is You
          Toby Fox is the poster child for "you either have it or you don't" as a concept. There is no becoming a person like this; you're either born with this and you would know it pretty early in your life or you have to struggle for years to just pitifully manage even one of these sorts of achievements. If I had to guess a number for it he's probably like 1 in 100000.

          Pretty sure it's just right time right place. He struck the right chord with his furbait, but it's not that amazing

          Nah, you just have to struggle way, way more than someone like him. Though for more people it is over in the sense that they have to pick their battles because they can't be as talented in so many areas. Most people can't be a musician, artist, programmer, writer, etc. all in one. Tbf neither can Toby... after all these years he still can't draw. Idk if he just has no interest or if there's a legit mental block there

          No such thing as talent nor luck, you just wasted your years pointlessly arguing as right-wing/edgy teenagers and he spent his young years practicing his craft 24/7 with a productive community.

          That's the real difference. You're ngmi if you're posting on Ganker or if you're right-wing. It is more distracting than online pornography because you delude yourself into thinking that you're more productive while wasting time on useless conspiracy theories and online gossip.
          >muh notch
          notice that they stopped making notable stuff after openly becoming conservative

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *he spent his young years sucking up to ecelebs for eclout

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA but that doesn't work on its own. You can't just suck up to "ecelebs" and get results - a thousand other people are trying that and it all gets drowned out and ignored - you have to wow them with shit that stands above the rest of the crowd. Gift art, gift music, some sort of high quality creation. I mean, take Toby himself, he only acknowledges fanwork if it's exceptionally high effort and high quality, because frankly he doesn't have time to pretend to be interested in a random Sans drawing, and even less so someone that just sucks up to him in a tweet or something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He lived in Hussie's basement

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After giving him hours of free music for his projects, yeah. If Toby Fox was just some reply guy that just dished out nice words instead of usable products he wouldn't have gotten anywhere. Don't get me wrong, he networked like a shrewd bastard, but backed it up with actual work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point is that if Toby was just some guy that was making good music instead of networking he'd still be a literally who

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >networking
                getting hired because someone likes your stuff isn't networking. networking is somebody hiring you because you already know them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How do you think getting a job works, moron?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Networking is making social connections you intend to use for business down the line

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't make social connections, he made stuff and then people hired him. Hussie had no idea who toby was before toby started working for him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to struggle with the English language

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are under the impression that he made social connections that he used to get hired. I am telling you that did not happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are under the impression he didn't use his link to Hussie and the Homestuck fandom to launch his own projects

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he built up a fanbase by making stuff that people liked
                there were tons of people who made things for homestuck, toby got a fanbase because he made stuff people liked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And that fanbase would've been exponentially smaller if not for his Homestuck gig

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the gig that he got by making good stuff, not by knowing the right people

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The gig that introduced him to the right people, you can make good stuff until the heat death of the universe and it won't help you succeed as much as having the right connections

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that dude, but this isn't some great truth you're delivering to the world here. If I made the greatest music ever composed and never released it, obviously I will never succeed as a musician unless we're talking about some theoretical measure of talent that transcends the fact that my music is totally unknown, in this case by choice. That's an extreme example, but any conventionally "successful" musician or artist must basically by definition be "connected" to other successful people because if the work is good it will be recognized. Honestly for something like music it's actually fairly meritocratic. It seems sort of chicken-or-egg, but usually someone *starts* with reasonably good music and the connections develop because of that, not the other way around. I honestly don't think there are many cases of people making extremely good music that are just locked in obscurity because of lack of connections... if their stuff was extremely good the connections would follow naturally from there

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and never released it
                No one said anything about "never releasing it", you could release it on every platform known to man and it wouldn't help you succeed any more than the millions of shmucks competing with you making average music. Meanwhile those shmucks with average music getting noticed and promoted by an eceleb with a following would torpedo them to success.

                >making extremely good music that are just locked in obscurity because of lack of connections...
                You wouldn't know about them because they'd be obscure

                >if their stuff was extremely good the connections would follow naturally from there
                Circular logic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >succeeding because people liked the stuff you made is bad
                that's fricking dumb

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Succeeding because you randomly caught an eceleb's eye is not impressive, correct. Especially when there are examples of people succeeding entirely through organic word of mouth like Minecraft.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >um actually when something i like succeeds it's organic
                Explain why the dozens of other people who worked with hussie aren't successful millionaires but toby is. They worked with the same guy, if that's all it takes then why is it that only toby managed to get that kind of success?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't like Minecraft

                >Explain why the dozens of other people who worked with hussie aren't successful millionaires but toby is. They worked with the same guy, if that's all it takes then why is it that only toby managed to get that kind of success?
                Where are their $15 meme-filled games that heavily play to the fandom's obsessions?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >n-no wait that doesn't count they also have to be game developers or else it doesn't count
                epic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You want them to get rich selling absolutely nothing? How did you think networking works? Even Kim Kardashian sold a reality show

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tbf Toby had a lot of Starmen friends, a lot of popular Tumblr artist friends that probably contributed art of Undertale that piqued people's interest, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if Toby was the most networked of the people on the Homestuck music team

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He got those connections by making shit. He wasn't a nepo babby with 0 experience, he spent years putting things out there and building a career.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i know

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And those were irrelevant compared to the boost he got from having connections

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are under the impression he didn't use his link to Hussie and the Homestuck fandom to launch his own projects

                That's the impression that I get

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He found a productive and supportive community who encouraged him to excel, you never get that as a conservative. No one wants to be with ignorant dumb buttholes.

              Not sure why you're making it a political thing. Probably so you can act like you're different than the things you're criticizing, but be honest, you're here. You aren't trying to 'hone your craft' you are just trying to make people feel worse, you got crab mentality.

              sorry, politics is 100% relevant. all conservatives are failures and a laughing stock because they are anti-social people who lack
              empathy and self-awareness. You're never going to improve if you're narrow-minded enough to hate talented people born differently from you while kicking yourself out of productive communities for using slurs.
              >muh tolkein, muh cs Lewis, muh Dali
              funny that you only cite dead artists instead of new ones like Toby fox

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man you are so negative, you're not going to achieve anything by being so negative on Ganker, You know that right? You're fighting boogeymen in a Ganker thread

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just telling you how reality is. You'll always fail as long as you identify as conservative because it is inherently antisocial and hateful. Liberals or left-leaning people like Toby succeed in droves because they're cooperative and inclusive.

                It sounds small or arbitrary, but it makes a huge difference if you aren't an butthole to minorities.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're just assuming shit about me. Also you're on Ganker and according to you that's more distracting than anything else. Practice what you preach and stop being so bitter towards everyone

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No one wants to be with ignorant dumb buttholes.
                Except other ignorant dumb buttholes, racists are even willing to put their races aside if the other side is equally racist

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > No such thing as talent or luck
                > if you're narrow-minded enough to hate talented people born differently from you
                At least keep your story straight.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's merely pretending to be moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's merely pretending to be moronic

                >No one wants to be with ignorant dumb buttholes.
                Except other ignorant dumb buttholes, racists are even willing to put their races aside if the other side is equally racist

                You're just assuming shit about me. Also you're on Ganker and according to you that's more distracting than anything else. Practice what you preach and stop being so bitter towards everyone

                Enjoy constantly failing at life as you reject criticism and waste your time bickering about conspiracy theories that you're wrong about 24/7. You'll never succeed as long as you're a narrow-minded butthole who hates minorities.

                It's called talent. Fox is a special example of this because literally ALL (no exception) attempts at mimicing his style of music is ALWAYS 0/10 megadogshit.

                Nope, it's just a matter being liberal or conservative. Nearly all games and media are released by liberals. It is because their ideology aids and breeds creativity and cooperation. Conservativism is inherently divisive and anti-creativity, so as a result you're unlikely to make anything with it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Project more

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                unlike you, I've succeed. you've done nothing and will die doing nothing. enjoy endlessly whining about trans and brown people for the rest of your life lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Again you're just assuming stuff about me. And I'm sure you're successful, what've you done?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nearly all games and media are released by liberals. It is because their ideology aids and breeds creativity and cooperation. Conservativism is inherently divisive and anti-creativity, so as a result you're unlikely to make anything with it.

                Minecraft

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nearly all games and media are released by liberals. It is because their ideology aids and breeds creativity and cooperation. Conservativism is inherently divisive and anti-creativity, so as a result you're unlikely to make anything with it.
                Burzum

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ACK - the post

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why are in an undertale thread? it's a pretty lgbt game series

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nobody on this earth likes trannies, even trannies themselves hate them. join the ack, you are never safe (from yourself lmao)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not sure why you're making it a political thing. Probably so you can act like you're different than the things you're criticizing, but be honest, you're here. You aren't trying to 'hone your craft' you are just trying to make people feel worse, you got crab mentality.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >being this mindbroken

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nah, I can say with the upmost confidence that you're a loser who has never (and will never) accomplish their dreams as long as they are right-wing. that's why you watch cringe compilations or outrage bait accounts to feel better than others

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >there's no such thing as genetics, people are all functionally the same and every single person can do literally anything if they put their mind to it
            This is gigantic cope. Most people will never be able to meaningfully compete as athletes unless they possess extremely specific blood pressure, bone density, nervous system and muscle ratios and also received sufficient nutrients in the womb. Most people will never become proficient painters because they lack the ability to visualize what they wish to portray in their mind's eye and lack the intelligence to adapt to new information and utilize it in further evolving complex compositions as they become better. Most people will never become capable musicians because they have no sense of rhythm and no instinctive understanding of tonal and atonal states. Your capabilities and potential in life is determined the moment a zygote is formed. Unless you have a natural inclination towards a particular pursuit in life, the absolute best you'll be capable of is playing catch up with those that do, for the rest of your life, provided you don't quit, which you should, because you just make a nuisance of yourself for the truly talented. And mutt politics is a double digit iq bread and circus cope, no one talented can be found there, only genetic failures with mountains of inherited wealth that they spend to hire people better than themselves to manage it so that it doesn't run dry in a generation.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              tsar bomba trvthnvke that the rest of the thread is too scared to reply to

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Okay, he did plagiarize for X song(s), but he totally didn't plagiarize the rest
    Toby wienersuckers are going hard on the bargaining stage

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Place your bets now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I through-lined the two most likely bingos and crossed out the ones that are absolutely not happening.
      We will see Asriel alive, he's not going to die before returning from college lmao.
      What you should actually be worried about is "Asriel never arrives" eg the end of chapter 7 is you guys getting a knock at the door before going to credits.
      >Ralsei betrayal
      Just makes no sense logistically. I get why someone would want to fish for this, as he is our only source of information on the roaring and geysers, but we have no foundation to disbelieve him, and more importantly still, it just wouldn't be very interesting.
      >Suselle doesn't go anywhere
      Get real LMAO
      >Weird route subverts to being good
      Get real LMAO
      I would say middle column is possible except I have no idea what "repetitive formula" actually means. Is that not a prediction but rather just the statement that Deltarune plays repetitively? All JRPGs do so IDK.
      Finally, chapter 1 is close to being a bad chapter already. It's way less interesting than Undertale or chapter 2. Just getting to explore the town or learning Asriel is your older brother is outright more interesting than the rest of the game of chapter 1.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Finally, chapter 1 is close to being a bad chapter already
        Shit opinion

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hey I'm glad you liked it. I enjoyed the Ralsei fanservice but overall I just didn't think it was super inspired. Susie arc is as predictable as they come, and the poker/chess theme isn't super exciting to me. Like I said, exploring the town felt like a bigger deal than the whole dark segment because I wanted to know what the hell this world is like.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually liked the poker/chess theme and the overall aesthetics of Chapter 1. The card enemy designs were very memorable for me.
            It was the theme of Chapter 2 that I didn't really care for. The cyber city thing just didn't do it for me, I missed the "magical" feeling of Chapter 1 and I hope we can get another chapter later with that similar sense of mystery and wonder. I also didn't like Queen very much so I just felt annoyed when she kept showing her face everywhere.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chapter 1 feels like a classic childrens book, it is incredibly nostalgic.

            Now that I finally played Deltarune, I have no idea why this guy took over the fricking internet. I mean he's a fun enough character and the Basement is creepy (and you have to figure that's the dark world reaching those buried doors south of town?), but this guy was fricking EVERYWHERE for a hot moment and I still see him occasionally. He's an optional secret boss and his lore is mostly implied.

            >is funny
            >all his songs are bangers
            >his being a failed outcast resonates with the average fan of this game (not as much as kris though)
            >is genuinely a god tier character design, simple and appealing but instantly recognizable with the multicolored glasses and visually conveys his personality well

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Just makes no sense logistically. I get why someone would want to fish for this, as he is our only source of information on the roaring and geysers, but we have no foundation to disbelieve him, and more importantly still, it just wouldn't be very interesting.
        you are the big stupid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Player = bad
      Not a fan of how Toby does this regardless of what you do. It happens in Undertale too and people really jack off over it but it's just lame as hell. Makes it feel like the only way to "win" is to not play at all, so I haven't finished deltarune chapter 2.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh suselle
      >random filler squares that obviously wont happen
      terrible image

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the roaring (an overflowing of darkness) is a red herring. the original prophecy describes the angel's heaven, which is an overflowing of light

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Think this game is going to be a lot more linear and straight forward than gays believe.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Susie, my beloved.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If loving Undertale makes me a furry then woof woof

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least you admit it. Now, face the wall

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hmofa is the future

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        somethingawful lost
        join lowtax

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys I think I'm going to cry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you going to cry homosexual?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Susie is so cool

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not. Final answer.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >same music theme but a few different notes
    He keeps recycling the same tunes on his musics over and over again chud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He also recycles his pee

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are hundreds of games, movies and even albums that have leitmotifs anon

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=O8OEPM6Sqkb4kkaV
    He's a genius for making this song alone

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >games
    be honest, nobody plays this shit for the gameplay

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he hasn't taken the penumbra pill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of this makes sense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the sonic in the corner will never not be funny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i can understand everything in this image without having to read it
      chapter 3 when

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, if we're lucky and the pace keeps up maybe this year, but plan maybe for like 2 years in the future so it's more thrilling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's never coming homie, cope and sneed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >toby releases ch2 during covid
        >people get to see a little of deltarune release before they die
        >it still ends on a cliffhanger though
        >fast forward 3 years
        >two new wars
        >no new chapters
        >all those posts about people dying before deltarune came out are now reality

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of this makes sense

      I'll try to write it out.
      >Penumbra Phantasm:
      A song for Homestuck that Toby never finished, but still had its leitmotif show up in some soundtracks. Now it's heavily theorized to show up in Deltarune's endgame, something Toby has done before with Megalovania. Shows up in Hopes and Dreams very faintly in the background, and (theoretically) in The Holy.

      >Tumblr question, Twitter post, and Interview comment:
      In the interview, Toby stated that the ending to Deltarune came to him in a literal fever dream in 2011. The tweet was made that same year, and his answer to a Tumblr question about Penumbra Phantasm correlates to it heavily through "shadow's edge"/"edge of the shadow" (which is the definition of "Penumbra").

      >"Old song from the sea":
      Something UT's River Person and DT's Onionsan mention. Could be PP since ocean sounds are present in one version of it.

      >Twilight, reveries, and penumbras:
      "Twilight" (pic related) is that time of night where the sun has fully set, but sunlight persists; where night and day meet. A reverie is another word for a daydream, emphasis on "day" and "dream" as an oxymoron. Penumbra is literally the edge of a shadow that isn't as dark as the shadow itself; an in-between of light and shadow. All of this correlates to a union between night and day - and reality and dreams - which could be expressed through the Light World and the Dark Worlds.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look, Toby Fox is a skilled and talented guy, but by far the most important element of his image is his successful management of his own online persona following his game's success, leading to basically a cult of personality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby is LESS active on the internet than he was before undertale. He doesn't even show his face anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's part of his successful management of his brand. Nearly anything you hear from him is mediated through some lens of his work now, eg the newsletters.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is he still doing that thing where he writes his tweets like a Japanese person?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For someone that "values his privacy," he plays up the mystique of "mysterious game dev" shit a lot. Kind of shoots himself in the foot if he genuinely doesn't want stalkers and weirdos swarming him

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think he likes the thought of having people wanting to stalk him, it's an ego thing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it absolutely is

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He better hide if he plans on making asriel straight... or ugly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ralsei is going to frick Noelle for some kind of ritual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's fine... not really, that's lame. But still, I want Asriel

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a hug from toriel

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the hell is the name of Kris and Susie's town?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricktown

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Homotown

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friskton

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it inappropriate for the player to show romantic affection toward Ralsei and push toward a relationship, given that A) Darkners naturally feel happy and fulfilled by helping Lightners (according to Ralsei himself), and B) Ralsei has never had contact with other people before?

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that I finally played Deltarune, I have no idea why this guy took over the fricking internet. I mean he's a fun enough character and the Basement is creepy (and you have to figure that's the dark world reaching those buried doors south of town?), but this guy was fricking EVERYWHERE for a hot moment and I still see him occasionally. He's an optional secret boss and his lore is mostly implied.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's simple, the audience for these games is mentally ill and terminally online

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >complaining about people being terminally online
        >on Ganker of all places

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >his lore is mostly implied
      This is WHY characters like Spamton become popular. You need mystery, you need something for people to speculate and make dozens of videos about. It's no fun if you give people all the answers. Why do you think Gaster became so popular when he has literally no screentime? Of course, Spamton has the advantage of having multiple encounters, a shop, several (very catchy) songs, and a good amount of actual dialogue. Mystique by itself without much substance will give you a character like Jevil who, while still popular, didn't reach that same level of popularity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do think that the best way of doing this is to give enough background and information about a certain character that makes them interesting but leave enough mystery behind them to make you want to dig deeper.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Toby Fox is good at making mysteries, but anyone can do that. When it comes to writing definitive stuff, he falters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i love spamton so much bros

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think his arm broke because he jacked off to hard to hentai and now deltarune 3 will never come

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deltarune is so homosexual and it STILL doesn't gatekeep homophobes. That's a strong marker of his game's quality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like that just shows how much furries are self hating homos lol

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't Toby Fox not even do most of the work himself?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Music is incredibly easy to make. Especially when you take inspiration from other songs which he did. Even easier now that you can just use suno for your songs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good music? Dunno about that. There's a LOT of meh music, and it's extremely easy to make. Not a lot of music people would bother listening to twice or more if they randomly stumbled on it tho. It's easy to make something that doesn't sound like garbage, but making something compelling enough to make it onto a person's playlist or something seems way more rare.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He’s not good at either

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called talent. Fox is a special example of this because literally ALL (no exception) attempts at mimicing his style of music is ALWAYS 0/10 megadogshit.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He takes existing things and makes them slightly better/more easily digested. His games are literally just a frankenstein of what he loves in games and that's a perfectly fine way to make something

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Music
    Yes
    >Games
    No

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inserts gays, especially non-binary trannies. People will not notice the flaws in your works.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plagiarism.
    It's excusable because he's indie, for some reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bigot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you 🙂
        I'm racist too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not excusable at all, but he wont get into trouble unless the artists were to sue, but they wouldn't have much to gain from doing so even if they managed to win in court

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can't sue for shit, in practice copyright laws only apply to music labels
        Look at Genshin Impact, they got C&D'd by Nintendo for providing an almost 1:1 free version of Breath of the Wild with predatory monetization and all they had to do to get clean was removing:
        >grass on fire causing updrafts
        >Laser attacks from Ruin Guardians which looked and sounded exactly the same
        they got to keep the same sound effects as BotW, the same ambient-ish music style with the understated piano, the same gliding, the same movement, the same "hup!" voice lines for when the MC jumps, the same visual style, the same climbing mechanics, the same stamina wheel, swimming, some of the puzzles, some of the dungeons, I mean the list goes on forever.

        Nintendo couldn't prove damages on that to successfully sue, that's why ever since Genshin came out basically every other company started blatantly plagiarizing without even attempting to hide it.
        You could say it started with League of Legends successfully plagiarizing all the Warcraft characters (now redesigned), but Genshin really kicked it into gear because they literally made BotW and replaced the gadgets and physics puzzles with elemental reactions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          homie you can't sue people for making games in the same genre

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            homie you can't define a specific single game as a "genre" just to give yourself the OK to plagiarize, that's fricking moronic
            souls-likes are the same shit, you're just ripping off Dark Souls, it's not a genre, the genre is Action RPG, you're 1:1 recreating the exact same SPECIFIC mechanics and systems.

            Again, try applying this shit to music from official music labels and see how far it takes you.
            This Taylor Swift song? Actually it's a genre, it's called Swiftism and me recreating the same song 1:1 isn't plagiarism because it's a genre.
            They'd fricking kill you, unironically. They'd kill you in your sleep.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >souls-likes are the same shit, you're just ripping off Dark Souls, it's not a genre, the genre is Action RPG, you're 1:1 recreating the exact same SPECIFIC mechanics and systems.
              Yeah, that's how genres get started moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no it fricking isn't
                a genre is defined by broad mechanics and concepts, broad enough to allow for significant variation between each title, as an example Dark Souls and Kingdom Hearts are both Action RPGs.
                What's the meaningful difference between Dark Souls and Lords of the Fallen? One single gimmick?

                Zoomers are brain damaged on plagiarism because all you've ever known is blatantly plagiarized shit, remix culture has browbeaten you into accepting garbage, and now every game that comes out is a safe redoing of what worked 10 years ago, designed by a committee of investors.
                This is why Undertale blew up (aside from the astroturfing), instead of plagiarizing shit from 10 years ago it plagiarized shit from 30 years ago that everyone had forgotten about, so it felt fresh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's literally how genres get started, you do realize FPS games were called Doom clones for years

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you fricking homosexual, FPS became their own genre when the technology allowed for the actual FPS mechanics to be born.
                DOOM is horizontal only, if anything you could've called them Quake-clones.

                The genre already exists, they are copying the SPECIFIC mechanics.
                99% of the "souls-likes" even have the exact same UI.
                Is that part of the genre? Is that a graphic design genre?
                Under your logic absolutely nothing is a copy of anything as long as one hair on one character is turned from black to white.
                Your standard deletes plagiarism as a concept from existence. You're a snake and probably a israelite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they are copying the SPECIFIC mechanics.
                Just like Doom clones did, before FPS became its own genre

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Way to ignore the entire post and just reiterate your point.
                I'll do the same back : Your standard deletes plagiarism as a concept from existence. Nothing can ever constitute plagiarism no matter how blatant within your logic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Uh oh BotW plagiarized Skyrim and Far Cry 2 and Ghibli movies Nintendo is truly shameless

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                keep pretending to be moronic then

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah ok, but i think when people say toby fox plagiarized, they are talking about the music, not the earthbound/mother like gameplay
          see

          >Inb4 muh homage

          [

          [

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pxGKf6OhOA
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBB3_rFPjg

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LOKIyJvMA
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZz8L-pGYc
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMDFhjpMTEY

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrUem9vM_A
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb22li36dJg
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBtpBwzzdM

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfS5zVfGBc
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaihhlZ3QaU&t=65s

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJdlmOQl6A
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeid-bIRQA

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF2LOaLgA0
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1qjt_1geiI
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o251comtNfk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBhz7lb8VGI
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlKHChbEcps

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAjnqQ-DTLI
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aRE_J4UvYM

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPG3cGxtJU
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LmMCuGjfA

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-y-tEuCPY8
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8o_VdvFpk

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGkPieR6nk
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXwybuWRS8E

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHly6zadTq0
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7aXqjcUWMs

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAqB1lOiH6A
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewxyxByJPP0

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIjLUsH2yI
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuEWw648jo

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64fetbSh89s
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So this is the taste of zoomers too moronic for rpg, rts, grand strategy, etc genres? thr opinion of kids who think games with thought or from japan are bad? jesus christ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? Who? What? Where? Why?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm thinking 'em

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I say that and I look like that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that would be just you

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The games are ugly, the ideas are gimmicky and half-assed (the shmup like elements are particularly embarrassing if you have any experience with the genre), the writing is just plain bad and the music is trite. Sorry not sorry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idgaf

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was wondering how quickly turbo autist was in spamming his list of songs that vaguely sound similar. He made it in 18 posts, which isn't very good for him. You need better Google alerts like Barneygay or something, you're slipping.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread
    >toby is a genius savant
    >ackshually toby isn't that talented, he's only good at some things, i-it's not like i ADMIRE h-him or anything

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      You can stop posting now Toby.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like how there's no in between. Either he's a talentless moron or he's a genius god of writing. Reality is he's something in-between

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the game was shit only thing to amount from the game was goat milf

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay bros it's just an homage he's just that talented and hard-working

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Undertale.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fr fr no cap be bussin bussin

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be nintendo lawyer
    >have to deal with constant emails from some schizo demanding that I sue the undertale guy because he made a song that has five seconds that kind of sort sound like something from a 30 year old kirby song
    this job fricking sucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo lawyer would be the worst job ever. Imagine all the insane shit you'd see, even excluding toby fox

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bonus points: nintendo literally contracts toby fox for work these days. In this fictional scenario he could just be in the room next to you.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Asriel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i hope asriel grows up like his dad if u kno wat i mean

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, yeah I know what you're sayin.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it don't matter, man. none of this matters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you know too, huh?

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ______ soul vessel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grotus

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHY BE THE [Little Sponge] WHO HATES ITS [$4.99] LIFE
    WHEN YOU CAN BE A
    [BIG SHOT!!!]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby's tongue is a sponge for my penis juices

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Umm you guys know that Toby is secretly a chud who hides his power level right? You don't support chuds right Ganker?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I support fricking his tight little bootyhole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toby makes stuff I like so I support him all the way, baby.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      proofs?

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >music
    Yeah
    >games
    I don't think so tbh, underwhelming compared to other games of the same genre.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His tracks are mid as frick

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to touch the creature.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How to learn piano?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't waste your time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Be 10 years old and have you parents sign you up.
      Just kidding.

      Don’t let anyone tell you it’s too late to learn something.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He isn't that good at making games, undertale is infamously horribly coded and lacks a lot of QOL features.

    But it's doesn't matter because the game as a whole is good and it being 2D gives it enough overhead for the garbage code not to matter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He isn't that good at making games
      >because the game as a whole is good
      Skin color?

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember everyone, Kris called us up from the unknowable deep as a life coach.
    Be good to him and get him that lizard girl pussy and/or Childhood friend doe-dicking.
    Regardless of the cost.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not good at making graphics though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His games look fine for cheap indie games though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Too 1-dimensional MS Paint pixelshit. Even a toddler can do that.
        For wanting to copy Earthbound, he clearly didn't copy hard enough

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you comparing a full price game published by Nintendo that had who fricking knows how many people working on it and a cheap indie game made by 2?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Different times, different hardware limitations, Toby just used fricking Game Maker. There's no contest.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, there is no contest. It's fricking ridiculous to compare full price Nintendo game and first game by some random guy. That's like comparing the speed of a bycicle and a rocket and crying WHY IS BYCICLE SO SLOW???

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How the frick is he so good at making both games and music
    Potassium

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How the frick is he so good at making both games and music
    Looks like he's really good at getting homestuck fans' attention, I honestly can't really say I was as blown away by his games as some people. I think they're good, and the tunes are nice, but I don't feel like they're "genius".

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I kept asking people to explain to me what the game was about and they were all like "YOU HAVE TO PLAY IT, I CANT SPOIL IT (ALSO DONT KILL ANY ENEMY)", it was annoying af.
    So a year later I played it.
    I reached the point where you had to beat up the mannequin and I just ALT+F4'd. I don't get what people see in this game. The characters are cringe and there's no cohesion. Every character seems like it was passed through a random Character Generator.
    Undertale bored me and I refunded it.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely think his games are masterpieces.
    One flaw in both is the playable character. I get that they're not supposed to have a personality, but visually they are extremely ugly, to the point that they look like they don't even belong in their own worlds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean you kind of don't, you're the only human in both games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don't think that pixel art looks moronic?
        The more you look at it the weirder it gets. It's awful compared to every other character in the game

        Which only a small percentage of players actually engage with outside of memes and remixes

        I think it gives you pretty good choice. You can either flee or quickly spare random encounters, or you can perform all the ACTs and see all the extra content, at the expense of prolonging the bullet board gameplay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kris has a personality though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Kris has a personality though
        His dark world self, yeah not bad.
        He still looks like a moronic tall Frisk in the light world though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >his dark world self
          He liked playing pranks, played piano, likes knives, etc in the light world

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Toby’s secret is that he isn’t making games; he’s making webcomics that are mildly interactive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apart from the hard as nuts secret bosses.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which only a small percentage of players actually engage with outside of memes and remixes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sans is le hard
        Play actual shoot em ups or bullet hells, moron.

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never heard of this guy and played undertale several years after it's release, because a friend told me to. I couldn't grasp what people saw in it. the gameplay sucked donkey ass, the dialogue was cringe and unfunny. but I continued to play it (I didn't know anything about the game or the story). the game only got me at the end, when the best tracks hit by the finale - which was just fantastic. I even cried at the end.

    toby is like that anon said, really gifted at making music. everything else is just mid. and he understands games and did not fall into the mistake of making the ending of a game shallow and lame, because who gives a frick am I right? nobody plays games through to the end anyway. the ending was unironically the best part of the game. and he did for gaming what cinema was already doing, being subversive with its medium. I don't think this is gonna work a second time though. I liked what I played from deltarune, but it's not gonna be that big again. he is just repeating himself. can't wait for the OST though. and I just love ralsei.

    indies are so good now, he has WAY more competition. and that's a good thing. but stop it with these earthbound-likes. how about some good shmup or a tactical game for a change?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The entire Asriel ending sequence - the battle, the saving, the flashback, the song, Jesus it's good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, Undertale felt like it tries too hard at being subversive.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post the best bgm

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?si=qqFGHnNc881ywiMa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like Deltarune fine enough, but I fricking love the schizos. Toby has a real knack for making funny little guys.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        female detected

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, I'm a [Real Boy].

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Toby had to drop Chapter 5 from the release plan because this board would not be able to handle THREE schizos dropping at once.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know if I'll be able to handle two of them. Regardless, I'm looking forward to it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He wouldn't sell ice cream, he'd sell custard because it's made of egg yolks

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mpreg

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care what anyone says
    Hope and dreams is my SHIT!
    I'm going save the world from clutches of a GOAT TWINK BUTTHOLE with the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!
    Then proceed to continue bawl my eyes out like a fricking moron listening to His Theme and hug this fricktard that just tried to turn me into dust!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros I played Deltarune Chapter 1 back when it released in 2018 and havent touched Chapter 2. Should replay Ch 1 or go straight to 2?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      straight to 2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should wait until Deltarune is fully finished.

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Deltarune chapter 1 cliffhanger makes you think oh frick, chara shit again
    >chapter 2 shows Kris takes control away from you to make irresponsible but not outright malicious decisions like eating all the pie, ensuring a sleepover with Susie, and having another adventure to go on
    What a relief

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But he does it even if Noelle kills Berdly. It’s not to have fun

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=3T-6Tl_657K13o-T
    God, all I want to do is create something as good as undertale one day.

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By rolling 1d10000 at birth. But even then there are thousands of Toby Foxes out there, even more skilled than him in every respect, who never make it due to bad work ethic, lack of mass pandering or simply bad luck.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How the frick is he so good at making both games and music
    By only knowing how to do 2 things, music and writing

    His games look like pure liquid shit, and play not much better.
    Hes not some genius, but he goes all in on what he knows to do so something it comes together.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      genius <-X-> some renaissance man who can do everything himself
      it is obvious that he is very musically talented and passionate about video games to the point where he dreams of game ideas (example, deltarune)

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno man, the music is good, but after Deltarune I'm starting to think he just got lucky with Undertale

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s Kris’ endgame?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Repeatedly cumming inside both a dinosaur and his childhood friend.

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's in a clique

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >both games and music
    What do you mean by "both"?

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the music.

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible for a married man and father to play Undertale, get it, and enjoy it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not possible for a man to feel joy after they turn 25.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Having kids?

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Undertale is on sale on Steam till June 6.
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/Undertale/

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been eight years and this silly rpg still makes Ganker seethe to this day

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone had to surpass ZUN one day and the internet was going to be filled with normalgays either way, I am still sad that it had to happen.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do miss when the internet was fun. Normalgay access has made it nearly unusable.

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >games
    *derivative trash running at 30 fps
    >music
    *copy pasted songs

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What happened to Mike?

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DELTARUNE NEVER

    WHATS TAKING SO LONG TOBY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the newsletter was a week ago, be patient!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chapter 3 was a big hurdle where they evidently needed to figure out what the direction of the game would actually head in. Chapter 4 is going way faster, and to top it off, they hired a producer to enforce accountability.
      https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/halloween23/

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >good at making games
    it's been nearly a decade you moron lmfao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deltarune Chapter 2 came out 2 years ago anon

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TUMBLRMEME
    UNDERSHIT
    homosexual GAME FOR homosexualS

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Typical
  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everybody's hyping themselves up for Penumbra Phantasm in Deltarune for some reason
    >nobody cares about literal MEGALOVANIA 2

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nobody cares
      ESL children had a field day with it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Qrd?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just mean that in the sense that every "EVIL SANS PHASE 87" and "UNDERTALE CHARA FIGHT???" fangame used this song or one of its thousand remixes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People are setting themselves up for disappointment with Penumbra Phantasm. It won't be in Deltarune no matter how many times that one ESL anon posts his crap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People are setting themselves up for disappointment with Penumbra Phantasm. It won't be in Deltarune no matter how many times that one ESL anon posts his crap

      megalo strikes back will not be in deltarune
      penumbra phantasm will be
      cope

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he's such a genius, how come both his games and music are shit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idk why does your manga have a troony main character?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he says this when kris is a they/them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kris has no genitals?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they them bussy

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they them
              >bussy
              Pick 1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jodio is 100% chance an Undertale fan and thinks it's high art. That game was practically made for him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They objectively aren't, though he isn't really a genius either

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shattertale
    >Deltatroon
    Hi Preddit! Hi Tumglr!

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have we met the final boss of Deltarune yet?

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bump

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's there to bump this thread fricking sucks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well I like it

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called plagiarism.

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      medz

  112. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's good at Music but he is very beginner/average at making a game
    Undertale is carried hard by it story and everyone who took a look know that his code is terrible but because it's a simple game maker RPG, it's not noticeable for the average player

    Toby you lazy frick, release deltarune this year or i'm shitting in your shoes

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