How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already, I remember when gtx 1080 was the next big thing like it was yesterday. Holy shit I’m getting old
also what happened to gtx anyway? why is there only rtx?
How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already, I remember when gtx 1080 was the next big thing like it was yesterday.
>rtx 5000 series
Maybe in 2025
There is at least a year until the first 5000 is released.
and it will just be a refurbished 4000
After a certain point, the returns will be negligible if the 4000 series is any indication. Selling cards with barely, if any, improvement will be the way of the future.
We are already at this point.
I didn't notice as large an improvement from my 2060 super to my 3080ti as I thought so I believe it.
I have a 2060 12gb, I am finally looking to upgrade and was pretty discouraged by the fact that my "sweet-spot" is going to be $500 for only little over 100% performance improvement. Maybe I am misremembering but I was expecting to only have to pay like $350 for that performance boost
7800XT
4070
6900XT
>7800XT
Not sure what the other anon means with his post but the 7800 that just released seems like the best bet unless you really believe in nvidias software. Still $500 just to double the performance
kid, this site, in your picture, is a fucking Ngreedia shillfest. You realise that, right?
I did not know, but based on the site I still came to the conclusion that 7800xt is better choice than 4070 for me
userbenchmark isn't ngreedia shilling
userbenchmark is anti-AMD in every regard.
They shill Intel too when it comes to CPUs and 50% of every of their review is just the admin malding over AMD and calling everyone supporting them a markerer or shill
Yeah, they got caught and someone has the pic
I use a russian site and tom's hardware
techpowerup is also good from my experience
But mostly, I just look at Hardware Unboxed benchmarks
It's funny how even Nvidia and Intel shills blacklist userbenchmark. Even literal marketers hired by the competition do not want to be associated with that schizo of an admin and his hateboner for AMD.
spend $2k on a 5090 or stfu, nerd
what are you looking at? i've had a 6g 2060 for a while and am just now thinking about moving on
I bought a 3070 on ebay for $240 and it's awesome, looks and runs like new
The difference is massive, you have a CPU bottleneck
I did but I upgraded to a ryzen 7 from a 5. I guess I was being hyperbolic but I don't really play bleeding edge games or graphically intense FPS so I didn't notice an marked improvement based on the games I played etc
the 4090 absolutely mogs my 3090, what are you even talking about?
in the same way 2x3090 interconnected mog one. much more money for solid improvement but only because you basically bruteforced your way to more performance rather than any actual breakthroughs in tech
I didn't know any games supported SLI anymore. I literally haven't ever seen it recommended since before 2010.
DX12 doesn't support SLI
Only the 3090 had NVlink connector
nvidia will just dedicate more of the die to bullshit AI crap.
real time path tracing is the biggest graphical leap since 2004 when id software put dynamic lighting in doom 3. but only very few games support it
Cool. Will it make the game fun?
Don't even bother with the AMD shills. They're too busy sipping that FSR kool-aid
>Ganker calls them AMDunboxed
>Tom's Hardware calls them Ngreediaunboxed
Just goes to show how fucking insane people are over brands.
>youre coming across as muppet who would have said water reflections in morrowind was a worthless gimmick just to sell graphics cards
And it was. And so is this crap. Double-whammy marketing ploy, too. Because it's both a graphics gimmick and a performance destroyer meant to push you more quickly into the next gen cards.
Userbenchmark butthurt detected.
Dont know who that is, but where he is wrong?
It is a gimmick. New games dont need it. BG3, Starfield, AC6 which one of them rely on RTX wet-floor technology? Retarded Nvidiatrannies are always in hwong chang's marketing delirium.
Anyone remembers Hairworks btw? Wheres turbo-real public hair bitches at?
>Hairworks
In Witcher 3 and many other games
>fat tracing
>gaytracing
>graphical leap
All I'm getting from your post is light mapping has been a solved issue for 19 years.
Ray tracing should only be used where devs don't want to spend the time, resources, and effort in implementing proper light mapping.
I've not seen one game where raytracing makes it look any better, and the ones I've played with raytracing enabled looked a lot worse.
Quantum Break if you turn upscaling off.
Would be great ngl. I'll just need to upgrade from my 1066 once and waste no more money on this.
The 4070-4090 lineup has significant performance upgrades over the previous generation so I don't know where you're pulling the "neglible returns" thing from. The 4060 and 4060ti are scams for their MSRP though, even the most insane Nvidia shill should admit that.
>4070ti-4090*
fix'd that for you.
3070->4070=35% increase+4GB vram
AMD can already theoretically achieve 3x the performance of the 7900xtx with their multi-generational chiplet design, but they deemed that there's no market for such a powerful card because relative performance would make it prohibitively expensive.
It doesn't even matter how powerful they are.
Theres no system Todd cant overload with his 20 yard rooms in between pitch black loading screens.
How does it manage it?
Starfield actually runs fine on AMD. Not great, but a hell of a lot more playable than on Nvidia. Drivers will eventually even out performance, AMD just has a headstart because of their deal.
>AMD just has a headstart because of their deal.
LOL
The deal that came about two months ago for a game that's been in development for seven years.
Do you people actually read the shit you post?
moron, AMD releases 2-3 drivers a month, and they have several different product stacks that get updated with their own unique drivers. A two month headstart is more than enough time to ensure Starfield is more stable on AMD hardware at launch.
Well that at least makes more sense than some retards who want to act like Bethesda intentionally gimped performance for nvidia hardware.
BSG didn't intentionally gimp anything, they're just incompetent. Todd has gone on record saying that focusing on just one console AND getting a year delay allowed the game to release in a better state than it otherwhise could have. I shudder to think how badly the game would have run if it'd released multiplatform a year ago if THIS is what we got.
It's actually alright, hoping for more performance improvements in the future patches. My old crusty workstation build that I started in 2012 can handle it decently, surprisingly enough.
Starfield is actually decently optimzed, much better than Fallout 4 for example. Now they're not entirely wrong, the optimization can be a lot better, but it's not THAT bad. The problem is that you have so many people with complete garbage PCs trying to run the game. I'm talking not even using SSDs, overestimating their video card if they have something like a 3070. A lot of them have dogshit CPUs as well.
>Starfield is actually decently optimized
Not in the terms of what most people today consider optimization, for them it's the balance between how "new" a game feels compared to how well it runs.
AC6 looks slightly outdated but people don't mind that because it runs well and is a good game.
Jedi: Survivor runs kinda poorly now (ran terribly at launch) but at least you kind of get it because it does feel like a current/next gen game.
Starfield running as poorly as Jedi: Survivor while looking & playing like a 2016 game is not a tradeoff people like. That's why they say it's poorly optimized.
Nah, it is spaghetti code trash build on a very dated engine (Gamebryo) doing loads it was never meant to handle.
It is totally reliant on brute force and doing it by the numbers. Starfield is meant to be a barebones games where modders are going the all of the hard work.
don't need more gfx, would just like the 4k raytracing i have today but without the air around me being becoming so hot and dry my eyes start to shrivel
You also need a cpu to keep with it.
my 6750xt is overkill for anything i play
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already, I remember when gtx 1080 was the next big thing like it was yesterday
That was over 7 years ago.
>also what happened to gtx anyway? why is there only rtx?
Games started implementing ray tracing, i.e. light that actually behaves the way real light should like people fantasized about decades ago, not fake light tricks we've gotten used to. This applies to global illumination, shadows, reflections etc and is a great idea in theory because it results in:
>better graphics
>dramatically less work for developers because instead of handplacing fake lights all day they can just simulate real light from light sources in a fraction of the time
>a game that feels more interactive and "alive" because lights aren't static and fake but actually obey physics, this can be amazing for stealth games
But it's very demanding in terms of performance in a slightly different way to normal lighting, so specialized hardware is needed to run ray tracing well. Hence Nvidia renaming GTX to RTX cards, adapting the hardware for ray tracing and marketing themselves as the best option for it. Which to be fair they are even though they're overpriced and AMD is slowly starting to catch up.
But in the vast majority of games it's still not worth it to turn on ray tracing or path tracing. It's still too demanding, most games are built for consoles which are bad at ray tracing so the ray tracing gets half-assed and is poorly optimized, not enough developers are competent enough to make it look good, and the performance loss is still too high unless you're running something like a 3060ti or stronger.
>light that actually behaves the way real light should like people fantasized about decades ago,
It's really worth noting for a lot of games that it makes things way too dark, in my opinion.
>dramatically less work for developers because instead of handplacing fake lights
They still have to do that, anon. Just because you have real light simulation doesn't mean you have a real sun.
>a game that feels more interactive and "alive" because lights aren't static and fake but actually obey physics, this can be amazing for stealth games
wait this is wrong too. Skyrim had torches. You at least played that? V rising was entirely based around shadows and staying in them. Do you think that game was ray traced? You are coming across as an ignorant teen that drank the koolaid about what retards hype up.
>But in the vast majority of games it's still not worth it to turn on ray tracing or path tracing. It's still too demanding, most games are built for consoles which are bad at ray tracing so the ray tracing gets half-assed and is poorly optimized, not enough developers are competent enough to make it look good, and the performance loss is still too high unless you're running something like a 3060ti or stronger.
youre coming across as muppet who would have said water reflections in morrowind was a worthless gimmick just to sell graphics cards
Mainly Nvidia is attempting to jack prices, proprietary lock in, and wag the dog on every feature (proprietary of course) while pushing chips to go to AI (and before that crypto) firms.
This is the issue. basically at the 3000 series, Nvidia realized for the first time in ages that "holy shit, AMD has an actual competing top tier GPU with rasterized performance" so, despite the fact that RT had the huge performance cost and in most cases was either hardly noticed or a tech demo they started a "RT performance is all that matters!" marketing push because otherwise the 6800XT, 6900XT etc. would have been basically as good, cheaper, and sometimes better at rasterized high res gameplay. Its only gotten worse from there since the Crypto era driving up the prices of all GPUs alongside the pandemic, so NV started to say "hey, they'll pay $2500-3000 for a card why shouldn't we charge more!" and so they do.
Raytracing isn't evil or anything but its not 'there yet" and one reason that along with RT came the focus on DLSS (Nvidia's proprietary upscaling using the same hardware on chip) and FSR (AMD's open source platform independent upscaling etc) came to catch up was because between shitty optimization for a lot of game and this hardware they knew that even a top tier NV card shouldn't push high framerates with RT turned on, so instead they use the upscaling tricks to get around that.
Frankly, the ONLY NV card worth buying is the 4090. If you can't or don't want to buy that, literally everything else including the 4080 will require upscaling DLSS/FSR/XESS tech for high frame rate 4K performance . The AMD 7900XTX has the same VRAM, almost the same rasterized performance, and decent RT performance for $600 less than the 4090 minimum (and at least $200 less than the 4080 which it generally beats in every way except RT raw performance) , so if you're not really slaved to NV, for instance.
Careful now. Some gay is gonna bring up blender benchmarks on the videogames board because you said AMD is a viable alternative.
bro go have a nice day, AMDcuck.
the 7900XTX(aka the 7800xr renamed by AYYYMD) is nowhere close to the 4090.
Shit can't even beat the 4080.
>cherrypicking tard is here
>Also cherry-picks AMD winning
>4070Ti can't beat the 3090Ti
What did I waste my money on lads? I just built this thing in January...
It can. Just not by 3X(without DLSS 3) like Nvidia claims
5 years ago, my build was a 1080Ti.
January's build was a 4070Ti
What's in store for 2028?
guess around those years we'll go back to 0080 models and so
Two can play that game, you know.
>>>Min FPS
have a nice day bro
Wait, so you're admitting the other Anon was right? The 7900XTX is almost a 4090 for $600 less... you posted the graph yourself...
AMD sponsored game
>$1600 for 16 more FPS than the 7900xt now selling for $750
>>$1600 for 16 more FPS than the 7900xt now selling for $750
lol cope
>more than double the money
>can't do double the frames
Who's coping now?
>Who's coping now?
It's still you.
see
see:
>No. I'm not coping because it's too expensive
>90 fps-wide stuttering is superior to stable albeit lower framerate
>4080 can only beat the 7900xt by 2.4fps
How is this a win?
I don't think you want to use R&C, aka the game where AMD begged Sony to disable Raytracing on their cards lol.
And it's now enabled again. So... yeah.
.....And it performs like shit on AMD cards.....yeah
Proof?
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AIIIIEEEEE AMDBROS, OUR 7900XT and 7900XTX GETS BUCK BROKEN AIIIEEEEEE
Well at least you can say your $1600 GPU gave you better gimmick lighting.
Cope
Hey man, I'm conceding. Your vastly more expensive hardware is better at ray tracing. Congrats.
Ah yes... unproperly coded RT or just proprietary RT implementations.
It's like asking why DLSS doesn't "work" on AMD.
Maybe if Nshitia released the source code of RT and DLSS it would be a good rebuttal for AMD
Nice cope, Dr. Lisa Su. Shall I get Jensen on the phone for your scheduled PUSSY pounding?
AMD can't compete at the high/enthusiast level, sorry buck.
AMD only exists to poorfags at entry-mid range.
4090>All
4080>7900XTX
4070 Ti=7900XT(After AMD heavily discounted this slop gpu lmao)
4070>7800XT
7700XT>4060 Ti
4060>7600
>4070>7800XT
Until AYYYmd can provide:
DLDSR equivalent
DLSS 3 equivalent that's not crappy
Good drivers
4070>7800XT(Which it shouldn't even be called a 7800XT because it sometimes loses to the PREVIOUS generation 6800XT LOL)
All I can see in your pick is the 7800XT shitting on the 4070 for cheaper.
Naming schemes doesn't fucking matter.
>Naming schemes doesn't fucking matter
>He would buy an AMD 8800XT which is actually the 7600XT renamed
>He would buy the 5070 which is the 4060 renamed
Shill
I would buy a 8800XT regardless of name if it's adequately priced.
7800XT shits on 4070 for cheaper and its name doesn't fucking matter.
Did you forget that your 4070Ti was programmed as a fucking 4080?
>has the audacity to call others shills.
>Shits on
>Isn't even 10% faster at 4K
>Is only 5% faster at 1440p
>20% slower in RT
>No DLSS
>Has to use FOOD STAMP RESOLUTION
>No DLDSR
>Shitty drivers
>Shit DX11 performance has to rely on Vulkan
Shill.
12GB of vram filled up real fast didnt it.
Too bad you have to spend $100 more for less performance and less vram so you have to use upscaling like a console plebian.
Games don't use more than 10GB at 4K, shill. Your VRAM narrative is........OVER
>bald gay 3
Next you'll be posting the Harry Potter game for children.
>fagdurs gayte 3
Thats not a game its gayry propaganda piece.
>propaganda
I can tell, you did not play GOTY 2023, Baldur's Gate 3
Gayest piece of shit of the year?
GOOD MORNING SIRS!!! REMEMBER TO SHILL STARFIELD AND HATE ON BALDURS GATE!
Starfield sucks, too, you stupid moron.
GOOD MORNING SIRRRSS
Hilariously enough it's the pajeets paid to do the nvidia shilling. You can tell just by their terrible English with mistakes no native speaker would make.
So good morning to you, saar.
.
>picture of a pavement ape holding a GPU box
What's this supposed to prove?
All AMD owners are brown btw. Sorry pajeet.
As a black dude this shit always makes me laugh, LMAO!!!
What do you call a black man with a PHD?
A moron!
>black man with a PHD
Where are you going to find one of them?
The United States federal government prison system.
Good morning sir
PRESS X TO SUCK COCK gay CATTLE
You suck moron cocks in real life so you love that shit fagdurs gayte 3 game?
You want to suck bear cock in games as well?
Is there a press X to suck cocks button?
You know damn well he doesn't need a prompt to put a tubesteak in his cock receptacle.
I can fell your hatred, Rasheed.
>wants upscaling
>wants fake frames
>wants slower performance at the best resolution
>4070 is such dogshit at RT that a 20% drop from it is only like 5 FPS
As a matter of fact, I have just bought a 3080Ti.
>3080 Ti
Why?
>AMD only exists to poorfags at entry-mid range.
sounds based
>almost the same rasterized performance
Now now, let's not lie too hard, shall we? A 4090 is a solid 33% faster than a 7900XTX, that is not "almost the same" to any reasonable individual
>decent RT performance for $600 less
Highly debatable what you define as "decent" here. A 4090 is like 75% faster in RT, that's at least a full generation ahead, but more likely 2 generations.
you're wasting your effort on shit bait threads
>i.e. light that actually behaves the way real light should
Ray tracing behaves the exact opposite way real light does.
Worst problem about AMD still is the raw heat that pumps out of the newer cards is insane. Even with decent airflow it's enough to heat up the side of a case noticeably. Otherwise they are the better option if you don't wanna fork over the money for a top of the line RTX.
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already
We don't, they are set to release maybe Q3 2025
Q1 2025, not Q3. It’s one year and one quarter away
The GTX 1080ti is still the greatest graphics card ever made.
The garden gnomes can't make anything good anymore so they are just gobbling up as much money and power as possible before the industry implodes.
You're goddamn right.
garden gnomevidia will NEVER make that "mistake" again. Fucking 1080's still run a lot of new games pretty well.
Nah the 8800gtx is the greatest card NVIDIA ever made.
That's just the way it is nowadays. GPUs come out like Iphones and car models.
Nvidia stock is soaring so they're going to pump out new cards non stop to stay in the news
Friendly reminder that DLSS, ai upscaling, frame insertions, ultrawide aspect ratios, and oled panels are irrefutable memes and you're a whale obsessed with impractical use cases for buying into those.
Anon... Nvidia is telling Gamers to pound sand. They're taking all their revenue and pumping it into AI initiatives and workstation/server cards. Trusting Jensen ching chong Huang to do anything in your favor is a lost cause. If you saw him at Computex and thought yeah, this is good, you're even more of a retard than him.
>none of that conversation was scripted
>are you guys with me, hi am i alone?
>only Gamers know that joke
>it's too much!!
Nvidia posters are just as uninformed and crippled as Apple users.
The last true innovation in graphical computation hardware and pcb layout.
oled is not a meme
it's the biggest meme out of what that anon listed
OLED is absolutely a meme. Those amazing in store demos look good because the panel is set to ridiculous color calibration settings, when you get the thing home and hook it up to a normal media source it looks like everything is painted with flourescent markers. When you calibrate it so that it actually looks correct the image becomes no different from a VA panel, the colors are just slightly deeper. The inky black bullshit is a scam because nothing in the world is inky black, if it was you couldn't see it or record video of it. Try to watch any horror show with the OLED black levels set to inky black, you lose 60% of what's visible. The worst part of OLED is how uneven the panel is, this becomes real fuckin apparent when you use dark theme in windows. It's called the 5% grey test, pictured is what an OLED panel looks like when it's trying to display a dark grey. Then you figure fuck it i'll turn off the dark theme so you get an all white google home page instead, and then you see that the OLED suffers from tinting based on viewing angle. The left side becomes red and the right side becomes green. Once you see this shit, you can't ever unsee it.
TN still undefeated
That's not what it's supposed to look like
Google OLED 5% grey test. People don't notice how bad OLED's are because they don't use them as monitors. I tried and realized how fucked it was and returned in under 24 hours.
I used an OLED VR headset and the "dark grey" problem was hell on that too. The headset basically "bypassed" the problem by not going too dark and thus also negated the advantage of the supposedly perfect black level, but it was either using it like that or getting horrendous blotches and dot patterns from individual pixels not having the same response at very dark levels. Awful shit. There's black smear to contend with as well, that's its own can of worms though if you're just using it for movies you probably won't notice.
That’s a lot of words for “i am poor”
impractical? wtf are you smoking.
dlss and framgen and saving us from trashfire launches where devs literally do not care to optimize (Starfield), ultrawide is superior to 16:9 for gaming, OLED / HDR make a bigger impact to your visual experience than any goytraced lighting.
I have all of these. Videogames are my only hobby so i splurge on it.
Oled is based retard
Run the 5% grey test and post results.
The problem with this mind diarrhea is that brainlets like you think you’re the smartest person in the room without ever say anything intelligent at all. The least you could do is expand on your points but they’re wafer thin so you’ll just smugly call them memes.
No, DLSS quality on a 4k 120hz oled tv is tops
Nvidia is telling Gamers to pound sand. They're taking all their revenue and pumping it into AI initiatives and workstation/server cards
Finally someone else is saying it. They couldn't give less of a fuck about gamers right now. Before they were catering to the crypto market but now every tech/startup is pouring money into them and intelaviv.
>Collectively not even devs or graphics card makers care about gamers
Exactly! Imagine being a videogame dev and trying your absolute hardest to make your game as unplayable as possible. Only making it to shill graphics card gimmicks and other BS tech the company who bought you also happens to be shilling?
>They're taking all their revenue and pumping it into AI initiatives and workstation/server cards
>Finally someone else is saying it. They couldn't give less of a fuck about gamers right now.
It's 50% of their market. I think they just misread how much can they fuck their customers with no lube and are paying for it with poor sales on their 40xx cards.
Sorry kiddo that isn't true anymore. It isn't the 2010s. Frankly, mainstream discrete GPUs are on their way out. They are moving towards being hobbyist and professional only. iGPUs are making discrete GPU redundant for the masses.
>They're taking all their revenue and pumping it into AI initiatives and workstation/server cards
> They couldn't give less of a fuck about gamers right now
Based
A.I. is great
I'm happy with my 1660 super and just by chance I got a deal to upgrade to the 3070 , Im a simple man with simple needs 1080p and 144hz is enough. All those retards buying 1440p and pushing their 2000$ card to just get 60-70fps are the ones being milked by brands.
you don't really need anything else than a voodoo 3 3000
RTX 50 is set to release in 2025
>980ti
Let me guess, you need more?
Absolutely. Mine couldn't handle most of the latest games without reverting back to 720p
980 Ti came out 9 years ago bro
Why not just get something newer with similar performance, it'll use a lot less power and run way cooler
What happened is that a fake pandemic froze the world 4 years ago and stopped all social development. That's why it feels like the time just slipped between your fingers.
>100 series
>200 series
>300 series
>400 series
>500 series
>600 series
>700 series
>800 series
>900 series
>1000 series
>1600 series ?????
>2000 series ?????
>3000 series ?????
>4000 series ?????
>5000 series ?????
my first GPU in 2003 was a 9600XT
20 years later I bought a 6950XT
>userbenchmark
since this is a smug reply you must know a better alternative, but since the smugness is coming from a cartoon I think I should not bother asking
he's right
using userbenchmark for comparisons is retarded
even intel and nvidia forums including reddit ban all userbenchmark posts because the owner of that site is a deranged schizo who rigs numbers
ok what should I use then?
Hardware Unboxed
Gamer's Nexus
Tom's Hardware
Techpowerup.
This.
>27% faster than the nvidia GPU with the same MSRP
4060 ti is a piece is shit
So is the 4060. So is the 4070. So is the 4070Ti. So is the 4080. So is the 7600. So is the 7700xt.
You go 7800XT/7900XT/XTX or 4090 this gen. Or you either buy last gen used, or you wait for Battlemage and hope it doesn't suck.
>Intel's head of driver development is a pajeet.
Oh... never mind.
4080 shits on 7900XTX. Back to India, you fucking curry eating AMD shilling gay.
They're about equal, but the XTX costs $200 less.
>upscaling
>paying four figures on a GPU to use upscaling tech
Christ. You people need help.
>hey're about equal, but the XTX costs
$150* difference
Everyone agrees the 4080 is the better buy.
Who's everyone? Even scalpers couldn't get rid of their 4080s. Nobody's buying that horrible thing.
The 4000 series is OUTSELLING ALL of the RX 7000, and it's not even close. If no one is buying 4080's(Which isn't true btw) Then not a soul bought the shitty RX 7000 series.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Sorry, AMDgay. There's a reason Nvidia owns 80% of the PC market.
>RX 7000 isn't even on this list
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO. NO ONE IS BUYING THAT SHITTY GENERATION
I want a 7800xt but I cannot get one on newegg still
>rofl at those numbers for 4070
7800XT is sold out everywhere.
That's because of low stock, just like the RTX 4060 Ti 16GB.
4090, out of stock
4080, selling
4070 Ti, the best SELLING GPU
4070 3rd best selling GPU
Why did you randomly all-cap 'selling' for 4070ti?
Its how mentally disturbed garden gnomes type out things.
Its one of his tells.
4070ti and 4070 arent selling. Its why you are shilling so hard here.
People and companies buying 4090 is irrelevant to Ganker
>4070ti and 4070 arent selling
Yea, I can TELL you're seething. 4070 Ti is currently the BEST selling new generation(RTX 40, RX 7000) GPU followed by the 4090, then the 4070.
have a nice day.
>TELL
>BEST
May God make you have and then not have, garden gnome.
Start praying to me INSTEAD, cuck. I might go EASY on your sissy AMD bumhole.
May God make you have and then not have, garden gnome.
Even if AMD made a product that is 100% superior in every metric, they would still not suddenly overtake the market overnight. It would simply cause their numbers to gradually increase over time. Like what happened with their CPUs after they stopped releasing trash and made something actually good with Ryzen. It took a long time of improvements from AMD and fuck-ups from Intel for the market shares to reflect that.
Except that AMD marketshare has been plummeting even after their RDNA 2 lineup, which was better than RTX 30 series.
AMDEAD. Only 8% of the market LMAO. Where are these AMD shills coming from? Loud minority?
Both of those were released with sky high prices in a heavily distorted market where all sorts of weird fuckery was happening.
RX 7000 isn't selling bro.
Nothing is, actually. 40xx is making -some- sales, but it's not much. The dGPU market shrank this gen by a lot.
Because it's a shit gen with bad launch prices that got mostly bad reviews.
It was the prices that harmed it. 7900XT is close to $760 now, and that makes it a really good value.
XTX is a toy for children. 4080 can do much more than just play video games.
4080 (along with 4070/ti) is a waste, should go for a 4060ti 16gb or 4090 if your going to do something else besides gaming
for pure gaming AMD all the way besides the 4090 of course since at same price points get better raw performance (inb4 raytracing cope)
4080 has dual AV1 encoders. Right now it's the best video editing card and 3rd best for 3D (2nd best if your scenes are not huge). For pure gaming you can go AMD, that's why I said it's a children's toy.
I don't think RT is a cope. I love it.
Now let's see the ray tracing benchmarks (yes I care about ray tracing)
>that list of games
So all dogshit I won't ever play.
What a wonderful metric to base a purchase on.
Hitman 8: HITMAN 3: World of Assassination is a fun game. But you don't need framegen or upscaling to max it out at 4k.
Which is why using it as a selling point for top-end GPUs is fucking ridiculous.
Because zoomers are retarded trend-followers that can't think for themselves?
>Because zoomers are retarded trend-followers that can't think for themselves?
You retard, it's been this way for years and years. The last true gpu lineup that AMD released that was genuinely amazing was when they still branded their GPU as ATI with the Radeon HD 4000 series in 2008-09.
Double-retard, show me the last time nvidia had an 80% market share?
2009
https://www.3dcenter.org/dateien/abbildungen/Add-in-Board-GPU-Market-Share-2002-to-Q3-2017.png
>2009
Not according to that chart.
It's at 70% in 2009. Not 80% blahblahblah yea I know.
Don't worry. You still get a participation trophy for trying.
>nvidiawon.png
>interpolation comparisons
unironically kys
It's a marketing shill. nvidia hired a bunch of pajeets to shitpost on the internet for their brand. It's embarrassing.
DLSS sucks at any setting besides 4K performance, and even then you won't be able to run games at 4k120 with a 4080.
> 4k120 with a 4080.
You're not supposed to. Not with new games, anyway. How do you think they manage to keep selling you new tech? They damn sure wont manage it by allowing your $1200 GPU to run everything maxed out. Gotta slowly gimp the performance over time, so you get FOMO'd into a new $1200 GPU.
>4K120
Only possible with 4090. Sorry AMDcucks. 4080 can achieve this with DLSS 3 though.
My AMD runs games at 4k120 all the time. 🙂
>Only 3% faster than the 6800XT
BRAVO AMD!!!! BRA FUCKING VO.
Yeah, it's very embarrassing how bad a lot of the GPU releases this gen have been from both teams.
Meanwhile in real world in the most demanding games at 1440p its a 10 to 20 % advantage for the 7800xt 16GB ($500)over the 4070 12GB ($600).
Not muddying the water with fartnite at 1080p and shit like Doom eternal.
I just looked up the potential cards I was going to buy via that website
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4080-vs-AMD-RX-7900-XTX/4138vs4142
what the fuck is that conclusion on the AMD side?
is he serious? this is some of the most pathetic shit I've ever seen
is there something wrong with the benchmarks too?
Yes. He's completely delusional. He makes liberals with Trump Derangement Syndrome look sane.
>still sucking trumps dick
>proving me right
ok boomer
I always hated that site for the reddit upvote ranking being the first thing you see, but his criticisms of AMD are spot on. They look good in reviews while real world usage is dogshit and plagued with problems.
>They look good in reviews while real world usage is dogshit and plagued with problems.
I have had a 6900 XT for 2.5 years now and I haven't had any problems. My experience has been so positive in fact that I might just get another AMD card if Nvidia releases overpriced garbage yet again or underequips their cards with little VRAM.
Same.
>I haven't had any problems
You haven't tried to run a VR headset with it.
I wouldn't qualify that as a problem.
>I wouldn't qualify that as a problem.
I know, usual AMD cope.
>You haven't tried to run a VR headset with it.
I don't care about VR and I don't use that.
>that rant into saying "just buy nvidia"
What the fuck?
Literally any other site is better. Site is owned by a eternally butthurt intel shill. The numbers are not based on real benchmarks but vague criteria that gets changed around to favour what he wants to shill
it's owned by an utterly deranged person. He seems to be a huge Intel/Nvidia shill, and is notorious for shitting on AMD even when their products are vastly better (in the case of Ryzen).
Their benchmarks are also proprietary and opaque and meaningless, and their GPU benchmarks are downright laughable.
Every other site tells you how many FPS you get in Cyberpunk 1440p high, while userbenchmark benchmarks CS GO and Overwatch (lol) plus their own proprietary shit.
This: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html , at least it's based on actual benchmarks.
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already
You're not buying technological innovation, you're buying minimally-viable products that implement a marginal step over the previous so that they can continue selling you the same product on what is effectively a subscription model.
>I remember when gtx 1080 was the next big thing
There has only been one technological innovation since then, yet we've got 3 new "flagship" models.
Sounds like you weren't around for the 6000 to 9000 series. That shit all came out within 2 years.
What made the GTX 1080 series or Pascal in general so good and why hasn't it been replicated since?
>rtx
Ray Tracing, new technology.
were you a time traveller from 2016 by any chance
i guess this is as good a place as any to ask - any reccommendations for a good card? my gtx 1660 super died. i dont need any 4k shit im prolly just gonna hook it up to my tv. a stable 60fps is all i need tbh. i asked a couple people and they suggested a nvidia rtx 4060.
get the 4060
Isn't that one meant to be even more shit than the 3060? As far as I am aware graphics cards, especially nvidia, have been a total joke since the 3000 series came out.
get the 3060 then.
nvidia is still the best in the high end, but they're gimping their mid range cards.
if you want to go mid range amd you can try it, but amd cards having driver issues is not a meme. your previous card is nvidia and if that was a generally smooth experience I suggest you stick with them.
It's dogshit. nvidia cannot compete at the low end or mid-range right now.
then wtf card do i get? guess ill die
moron why are you even contemplating low-mid range slop?
this. spend $2000 to run starshit at 60fps, why would you even consider running it at 50fps for $500 instead?
4090-$1600
4080-$1,1099
7900XTX-$1000
7900XT-$899
4070 Ti-$799
4070-$599
7800XT-$499
You have options other than LOW END-MID RANGE SLOP bro
Half of your list here is "mid-range" the pricing has just become so gnomish you look at the cost instead of the actual relative performance
Half?
>4090
Elder GOD next gen performance
>4080
Next gen performance
>7900XTX
Next gen performance
>4070 Ti
Slightly faster than the 3090 Ti
>7900XT
Slightly faster than the 3090 Ti
>4070
3080 Ti performance
>7800XT
3080 Ti performance
You could "argue" that the 4070 and 7800XT is "mid-range" despite their great performance. But I digress..
7800XT shits on the 4070 while being $100 cheaper than the 4070
Shits on? Similar performance without Nvidia FEATURES. That alone justifies the $100 PREMIUM. The 7800XT(Aka the 7700 renamed) is only like 2% faster.
>Similar performance
4070 12GB has lesser performance by 10 to 20% depending on game.
>FEATURES
have a nice day.
10-20%?
Is fucking LISA SU telling you this, gay?
It's time to stop sipping that AMD KOOL AID and time to stop using shitty features like FOOD STAMP RESOLUTION(FSR)
Get cancer corporate shill.
No, YOU get cancer, AMD-SHILL
>7800XT is 8% slower than the 4070 at 1440p
AMD-hermanos? Our narrative?
Yet Gamer's Nexus said the 7800xt is 5% faster than the 4070 at 1440p.
Hmmmm yet you said it's 10-20% faster?
So which is it, paco?
I recognize your filenames corporate shill. Get cancer cattle.
Sorry. Did I need to post "NTA"?
Yes, yes you did.
>cherry picking gaytracing results
>Post an image from AMD's OWN CHERRY-PICKED RESULTS
AMD-bros........ it ain't looking good
I hope you get paid to debase yourself. Please tell me you're a whore and not a slut.
>Implying Nvidia owns me
I only spit the truth, while you SWALLOW the lies AMD tells you...
So you're a slut. You do it for free.
>fartnite
>1080p
>dx11
Trying to keep that 12GB vram buffer relevant a shill?
Its $600 piece of shit.
cuz i dont need anything extra dumbass
Heh, 1660 Super came out 4 YEARS ago and you're already trying to upgrade. This is what fucking HAPPENS when you buy low end SLOPPA. The GTX 1080 Ti lasted 8 years before becoming shit, and so did the 1070-1080. It's time to save your money, and get something BETTER.
i aint tryin to upgrade the 1660 super of mine died. i was trying to gauge whether its worth to upgrade now or just get a replacement 1660 super. how much longer do you think the super will last? im fine with getting another one if itll stay another couple years. idk how long these cards typically stay.
1660 Super is weaker than the 3050, which in turn is weaker than the GTX 1070 that came out 8 years ago. Unless you can find a GTX 1660 Super/Ti for less than $100 just get something else. 4060 is $280, 7600 is $270, There's used RTX 3080 going for $300 on ebay.
alright thanks
I feel like I don't even really care anymore when it comes to new GPUs these days. The quality of games themselves for the most part is far too low to warrant buying the card in order to run them. I went from a 980 to a 3060ti recently and I still feel like I'm not using it to its potential since the games I play are either too old or are just not very demanding anyway. The only real reason I might upgrade is to have maybe slightly better VR performance in my flight sims but that's literally it
>get modern game
>it runs but the game itself is so shit you feel like you are playing a premium for nothing of value
>play the rare game that isn't terrible
>feel like you paying extra because they cannot be bothered to optimize their game as you turn on DLSS ultra to simulate 90% of frames to get a smooth 55fps.
Same. It's fucking dire.
Pascal series seems like multiple lifetimes away at this point. 5000 series is expected in 2025 - that a very very long wait still :-/
Nvidia releases a new GPU generation every two years.
Dont you dare buy graphics cards
I`m still rolling my GTX 1060 6GB. Considering to upgrade to a 3060 12GB because the 40XX series seems like a bad value for performance deal.
Better get a 3060 ti or 4070 normal, the gb are meaningless unless you do rendering in 3d. And 3060 underperforms with the 12gb nor worth at all.
Meant 3070 sorry.
I am rendering in 3D and doing video editing so the extra vram is put to use, that`s why i`m going with the 12GB instead of the TI even if the TI is more powerful and delivers more FPS on games.
Nvidia shills sound an awful lot like Apple fanboys.
Pcgamers are the appletards of gaming
I have a GTX1080. I got a good chip, it runs at a solid over clock and has been doing it stable for years. It was $700 when I bought it new, and the hottest shit available at the time.
It still runs almost everything, at acceptable framerates of 60+, at 1440p. Some newer, graphically heavy games are starting to make it struggle. I will probably replace it when the 5XXX comes out, with a 5090 or w/e the equivalent is. It will probably cost about double what I paid for the 1080. So, in ~6 years, I'll have spent about $2000-2500 on GPUs.
I'll take that over being a high anxiety low test benchmark sissy that agonized over upgrading their $300-500 mid ass card every year or two.
I don't give a shit about bullet point gimmicks like ray tracing, dlss, or whatever alphabet soup garbage the marketers some up with for you to argue about. I want raw FLOPS. When AMD makes the top performing card on the market PERIOD, no 'value' gayry, I'll buy AMD.
LOW END FAGS BTFO
MID RANGE FAGS BTFO
AMDSISSIES BTFO
Posting in here to give my homie 1060 6GB some respect. Finally uninstalled it (and upgraded) today. Little bastard has this on one of its corners. Beast that has aged well.
The parts for my new rig with 4090 will arrive in 2 weeks to replace my rx580 rig. I cant wait bros.
5000 will be another half step anyways best to wait it out for 6000
>the ESL nvidia shills are here
The odds generation Chads keep winning.
>3000
>1000
>700
>500
LMAO at even fags who bought a 4000 series to upgrade from their shit RTX 2000 and their 3.5GB 970.
>Arguing about the best brand of memecard that's only 5% better than the last generation for the fourth time
>Just to run bad PC ports of console games at 1440p
Lmao you dumb morons killed PC gaming and think you're kangs for it.
The Americans are in school right now, so the board is full of retarded Pajeets and Hispanics shitting up the place with their dogshit takes.
They'll never scrape enough up in a year for a 4090, but that won't stop them from screaming at each other over low end GPUs.
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already,
We don't! And we won't for another couple of years, likely. Maybe 18 months at the absolute soonest.
garden gnomevidia saw how scalpers went mad for gpus and decided that's their new market now. Gotta shit out a gorillion cards faster than ever in order to hop onto AI farming before it dies out like crypto, doesn't matter if each new wave does fuck all except have a new number on it.
Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products.
shhhhhh. Let them live in their safe-space.
And nvidia has a history of releasing 3 series of gpus in a row with gaytracing and upscaling as the excuse for retarded pricing and low vram.
All those corporate cultist shiteaters that were buying 6GB cards up until
a couple years ago are forced to buy again.
Losers that have 8GB of vram in current year feel a big shit in their throat.
and that same piece of shit will be down nvidia cocksuckers throats in a few months when the 12GB vram buffer just doesnt cut it anymore.
But cuckolds that paid $600 for it will suffer the most.
2GB gddr6 chip costs 2 to 7 dollars.
Nvidia is just better. Sorry Lisa SU.
>have no excuse for insufficient VRAM
>pretend other poster works for the competitor to deflect and avoid addressing this
Lol
>vram narrative btfo
>"value" narrative btfo
>efficiency narrative btfo since RTX 40 is more efficient than RX 7000
>FSR narrative btfo
What do AMDfags even have left?
>laughs in game not having texture loading or stutter issues
I can't hear you over my games running. 🙂
>gameplay quality is stagnating
>just like graphics even though normies usually hype it up cuz "muh realizm"
Why the FUCK do we need all these new graphics cards? The industry won't get any better, matter of fact, it's getting somewhat worse. At the very least come up with something innovative that really needs high-end shit to run.
>Nvidia is just better. Sorry Lisa SU.
I hate up scaling and I will not use it. I will run at a true and pure 2560x1440. I will not use vsync. I will expect 60+ FPS under these conditions and anything that cannot provide is trash, regardless of brand.
wow look at this reasonable guy. what an asshole. you want 2k native? that'll be 1299 + tip
I require 2k native and refuse under any circumstances to use goy-blurring cheap tricks to fake real resolution. I demand crisp, sharp renders. I reject all blurring as haram.
I don't use a graphics card, I simply put a VGA cable in my mouth and picture the game in my mind's eye
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already,
Did you only get into PC Gaming in the mid 2010s?
Do you not remember when the Geforce 400 series was released in early 2010 and then superseded by the Geforce 500 series in late 2010?
>bro just buy the 3070 bro
>it has 8 GB of VRAM bro
>that's enough bro
>i promise it's enough bro
>VRAM literally does not matter bro
>believe me bro
>nvidia loves me bro
kek
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Should I buy a 3060 12GB for $220 and wait until RTX 5000? Or a 3090 Ti 24GB for $850 (third world bux, also I need the VRAM for AI coming) and wait until RTX 6/7000?
4K 60 and 1080p 144 monitors btw
Pls respond
>AI
3090 Ti. Obviously. Stay away from AMD sloppa.
I'm in the same boat, i'll buy a 3060ti 12gb because it's the most cost effective for me, these gringos don't know how good they eat
There is no 3060 Ti 12gb
Shame because a 3060ti with more vram would quite literally be the perfect midrange card.
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already
We don't. Glad I could clear that up for you, fucking vapid retard.
will it have 4Gb version?
5050 4GB
5060 6GB
5060ti 8GB
5070 12GB
5070ti 16GB
5080 16GB
5090 24GB
5100 32GB
Imagine the seething if this happens.
Its a joke
like it will be
5030 4GB
5050ti 8GB
5060 8GB
5060ti 12GB
5070 12GB
5070ti 16GB
5080 16GB
5090 24GB
Also with a hardware lock on AI usage for any software that isn't approved by Nvidia.
8600-6GB
8700XT-10GB
880XT-12GB
8900XT-16GB
8900XTX-20GB
>8900XTX-20GB
for $9999,99 instead of $13000 just today
I just bought a 6750XT to go with my 5800X3D, I am pretty satisfied with my choices.
If nvidia dropped a 4080ti with 20GB of GDDR6X with a shitton of memory bandwidth, and 80% of the full Ada die, I'd sell my AMD GPU to buy it.
4080 Ti and 4090 Ti cancelled since AMD can't compete.
Yeah. Okay. It can't be because yields are shit and nvidia released the Ada Lovelace die didn't scale worth a shit.
No. 3090 Ti was released from the Nvidia vault because of the 6950XT. AMD quite literally cannot compete with the 4090. No reason to release the 4090 Ti
Sure. Whatever you say.
idk man i have a 7900xt and it runs great and much cheaper
It's more expensive than the 4070 Ti despite the 4070 Ti having:
192 bit bus
8GB less vram
Yet the 7900XT is only 2% faster in raster
and 25% slower in RT
Yeah. Let's see how that 12GB is gonna treat you moving forward.
>and 25% slower in RT
When are you gays going to realize that if cared about raytracing, we'd have gone nvidia?
We DID go Nvidia. 80% of the PC market, hello?
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
Your honor, relevancy?
I don't understand, I did eat breakfast
I wouldn't have the energy to fuck your mom properly during the morning shift
>When are you gays going to realize that if cared about raytracing, we'd have gone nvidia?
40% of cards according to the steam market survey are RTX cards and this number is rapidly growing as people ditch their 1050tis and 1060s.
And?
He just BTFO'd your narrative
What narrative?
>AyyMD shill will ignore real life data just like leftists ignore numbers on black crime
Cannot be a coincidence.
What's that got to do with my own personal preferences?
>And
I quoted the part of your post then I refuted it. "And?" Lol.
>It's more expensive than the 4070 Ti
Where? PCpartpicker shows the cheapest 7900XT for 780 and the cheapest 4070ti for 800. That said, I'd personally pick the Nvidia at this price point, a $20 difference is actually worth the extra features. At most other price points, however, I'd pick AMD. The 4060ti is ass, and the cheapest 4080 is $160 more expensive than the cheapest 7900XTX.
yeah but if its $1300-1400 its pointless, just get a 4090
4080ti at $999 and drop the regular 4080 down in price would be nice, in another world maybe
Yeah, that's right. I should have mentioned the price.
Man I own a 4070 and the shill here is embarassing to see. I mainly bought it since it was a nice upgrade from my 1080, a similar size to it, euro prices making older AMD cards mpre expensive, only needing 1 power cable and readily available without buying 2nd hand. I was one of the people who paid extra for my 1080 due to the scarcely mentioned 2017/2018 crypto boom, and refused to touch the 30 series due to even bigger crypto price increases, so seeing a new GPU readily available on amazon which wasn't complete dogshit was enough for me to get it.
I know it wasn't best value especially considering older generation AMD cards, but I wanted something new, but now with the 7800XT usurping it in rasterization and VRAM for cheaper yeah I think I'd go for it now if I waited a couple months.
>RTX 5000 series
Im sorry huh??
The new CAPTCHA system integrated in 2025 allows you to post things with slight time distortion, which is why the board has been flooded with nonsensical remarks which only make sense in a couple years time. I personally wish the new CAPTCHA actually allowed you to choose what time period you posted in, but after hiroshimoot sold the site to mootaling chang I guess this is the best we can expect going forwards...
love you shizoanon
>4090 is already obsolete
>5000 series is 15 years away
LMAO if every game has the same kind of shit performance like starfield has with a 4090 we're doomed
/v/:
>hates aaa-slop
>will also buy devices to consume aaa-slop
Explain this
Remember when $700 was completely ridiculous for a GPU, something to make a joke out of? I do, it was less than 7 years ago
inb4 "le inflation" apologists: inflation adjusted that's less than $900, and now no reviewer says $1600 4090 or the $1200 4080 have an insane price tag, they're just "bad value"
they are larger and have more components. Even if you just look at the raw material it makes sense they would cost more.
PCBs are tiny bro, thats from the retarded coolers pushed by nvidia
>r-ray tracing has NO future!!!!
LOL
https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1701659645327048796?s=20
Nice of apple to make a portable grilling pad
lmao
pretty good for a journalist, ngl
>ITT anons shilling AMD and NVidia while both companies fuck you all of over
It's a same company, moron.
nvidia still offers much better value long term especially for work and content creation, ayyMD is a meme choice.
>get RTX3070
>only play pixelshit
whoops
>AMD vs NVIDIA
>RTX blablabla
>FSR DLSS WTF
real question:
If I wanna ditch windows it's still better to go AMD, right? Steam Deck showed me all my games run and Linux is comfy for gaming, that's all I want.
Yeah. AMD drivers for Linux are better than windows drivers for nvidia.
Have fun dealing with Proton compatibility issues, though.
>Have fun dealing with Proton compatibility issues, though.
Been using my steam deck as my main gaming rig for about 1 1/2 years by now and I never ran into issues I couldn't solve in 2 hours max. Toughest part is probably emulation and pirating old vidya which I couldn't solve for me due to lack of trying.
But I guess I wouldn't be able to emulate switch on windows either.
Yup. I will soon be ditching Windows as well.
Me too. I can't wait to ditch the OS which has full compatibility with all my devices and software just so I can spend hours on command lines trying to figure out why my printer isn't working
normies reeeeeeeee
>Nvidia fanboys bragging about Nvidia's market share
kek, the things Nvidia are going to do to your asshole. Be prepared, that's all I'm going to say.
It's not bragging. You (or another anon) said "we'd have gone Nvidia" as if that isn't the case. The majority of the PC market uses Nvidia. Refutation isn't bragging.
Is English your second language? It feels like you're having an issue translating my meaning.
Shall I
What does marketshare have to do with mine, or another anon's personal preferences retarding ray tracing?
when I used to pc game, this was the best card available
>back then NVidia somehow realized nobody needs 128Mb card anymore
I remember dropping $300 on a BFG just to play morrowind back in the day. It had some green light on it that retarded me thought was so cool
I'm still using an i5 3570k and 1060 6gb
At least you won't be capable of playing the garbage they're releasing now.
Should I buy this?
Coming from rtx 2060
Ryzen 5 2600x
5000 series will just be a rebranded 4000 series
If you are buying any 4000 or 3000 series cards, you're being stupid.
7900 xt and xtx are the only true future proof cards out at the moment.
And the reason for that is simple: DisplayPort 2.1
PROVE ME WRONG gayS!
3000 series are better than 4000 series. If you buy 4060 instead of 3060 you are a fucking inbred moron. 5000 will hopefully be another good generation as it is with every odd one.
don't worry anon they will launch with DLSS4 where it will generate fake inputs to deal with latency and you can resize the game from 480p to 8k with no visible hampering! (of course artifacts are expected, chud!) now you can enable ray tracing on everything with over 100 FPS!
as someone who grew up in the 90s and whose first card was a voodoo 1 chip that could barely run new games not even two years later, I find the current market pretty chill in comparison. crazy expensive, but chill.
I bought an RTX3080 (12 Gb version) in April 2022, upgrading from my GTX780. It was relatively pricey where I live, although at that moment it was sort of a bargain, as things were even worse.
Barely played anything "big" since then cause little time.
Usually I just build a completely new PC, and then build the next one from scratch in around 8-10 years.
I got my latest (fourth) PC in May 2021 despite buying the card around year later, though.
Should I break this pattern and get a 5000 series once it comes out provided it doesn't suck? Would I be set for a longer time?
>thread devolves into eternally assmad shills posting cherrypicked or outdated graphs
nothing new under the sun
does any of these weirdos ITT even own a 4080/4090 or 7900 XT/XTX?
There's at least two 7900xt owners that posted in this thread.
No confirmed 4080 or 4090 posters.
>There's at least two 7900xt owners that posted in this thread.
Factually incorrect.
According to... ?
ME bro
So you have proof of nothing, then.
yup. how about you?
>how about you?
I don't, but I will soon.
I'll never understand why people buy the 4080 for $1200, then the 4090 is only 30% more expensive. The 4080 has been deliberately engineered to upsell the 4090, and you STILL buy it.
>You can buy this turd for three money...
>...or this cake for five money
You:
>I guess I'll buy the turd, it's cheaper.
>eople buy the 4080 for $1200, then the 4090 is only 30% more expensive. The 4080 has been deliberately engineered to upsell the 4090, and you STILL buy it.
>>You can buy this turd for three money...
>>...or this cake for five money
>You:
>>I guess I'll buy the turd, it's cheaper.
Projecting
The 4090 is over $600 more expensive than the 4080 RIGHT now. I bought my 4080 for $999 brand new at Microcenter, and used the extra money for a 7800X3D.
>buy my latest and overpriced cake
>or eat shit
Nvidia is fucking genius. No wonder they are dominating the industry. I hope AMD can learn something from them.
Yeah, I have 4090 and I don't even play video games.
Most of the shit-flinging is between 4080 and 7900xt owners, it seems. 4070/Ti owners know better than to show their shame, and the 4090 and XTX owners are too busy being based.
>Most of the shit-flinging is between 4080 and 7900xt owners
I thought it was between third worlders whos dream it is to buy a 4080 or 7900xt
>7900XTX
>Literally worse value than the 7900XT
>So bad that AMD had to retract their stance that the XTX was the 4090's competitor, because the 4090 BUCK BROKE it so badly.
The only think broken was the locks to your head where the XTX lives rent free.
>They/Them says while letting the 4080 live rent free
>n-n-n-n-no u...
Thanks for your concession
The only Nvidia card worth getting is the 4090. It sits on top and is a genuine beast. It has literally everything. That shows you how fucking garbage this generation is. After the disaster that was the 1080 Ti (for Nvidia), Nvidia are done playing the nice guys. You WILL pay from now on if you want a decent card.
The 3000 cards are decent buys for 1080p. It just so happens that they only reached their MSRPs years later because of the mining craze.
And honestly, that's fine. They could sell the 4090 for $3000 for all I care. I wish they do some stupid expensive card every single generation, because it's funny to see one card sit alone at the top.
The issue is how everything else scales down in price starting from the 4090 lmao.
In that case I forgive you. But I know at least one person (IRL) who unironically bought a 4080 for €1200, because a 4090 for €1600 was "too expensive"
?????
>I hope AMD can learn something from them
What do you think the 7700XT is for.
If your friend cycle doesn't buy the latest graphic cards, then it's time for you to find a new circle. Make sure you only buy from nvidia.
Stay poor while I enjoy my new 5090 RTX, how many fake frames can your old 4090 generate? exactly!
Didn't DLSS originate as the solution to the performance demands of implementing raytracing in games? What we have now is not a simple rendering mode to improve performance with Ray Tracing enabled, but a crutch that developers are obviously using to justify a lack of optimization spent on these "next generation" AAA titles. As unfortunate as it is, the GPU market and everything that goes with it moves when NVIDIA moves it and not before.
I can't imagine anyone was head over heels about RTX raytracing with DLSS when it was first announced alongside the RTX 20 Series but after the confusion doubt subsided people kept buying NVIDIA cards as they always have, and the focus in graphical development in games turned toward Raytracing implementation from that point forward. It is sad to see industry as it is, but unironically I am grateful to have a 4090 with frame generation because atleadt I can still enjoy games even when they are horribly optimized.
Your perception that the 1080 was yesterday is probably due to the fact that the GTX1080ti was truly a powerful GPU and that's why it maintained its status as a top-tier GPU for a long time. Even today it's quite likely that it outperforms the fucking PS5 and Xbox One Series X in certain cases.
Now look at the RTX2080, that joke, despite being much more expensive than a 1080ti, delivers practically the same performance, is no good for ray tracing unless you want 15 fps, and what's worse, has LESS VRAM than a 1080ti by a large margin.
>watching benchmark videos
>the AMD card had better FPS in most games
>but 1% LOWs of 1 FPS and even 0 FPS
>nvdia cards with 1% LOWs the same or close to the average FPS
AMDfags explain yourselves
1080p wins.
Just look at what these people put up with.
>How the fuck do we have RTX 5000 series already
We don't
Looks like a shitty Gamer Meld thumbnail
One of the shittiest tech channels on youtube
They're rolling these out in 2025 though, not tomorrow
Nvidia is shifting their business to AI and supplying industrial factories instead of vidya gaems so you might also consider 5k could be pushed back or nvidia's last consumer market card.
AMD RTG is going the same route as well. Demand destruction for discrete GPUs is finally here. All discrete cards will be yield rejects of datacenter/ML-tier ASIC hardware sold to hobbyists while the masses get by with iGPUs will handle all of their needs.
bought a xtx but am still using a i7 8700k
8700k is good
WHY ARE 3080'S STILL THE EXACT SAME PRICE AS 4080'S AAAAAAAAAAA