How will Dragon Ball games survive without new canon material?

How will Dragon Ball games survive without new canon material?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last Canon Decision of Akira Toriyama:
    >Gohan is the Strongest
    >3-0
    We won.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he regretted his decision so fricking much he died
      SHIThanbros...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blanco literally killed his own creator

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Broly is stronger.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beerus will always be the strongest. Goku went full godhood and still lost.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jiren was stronger than a god of destruction and Goku has surpassed him by far

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jiren was stronger than his GoD, a guy who was weaker than Toppo before becoming a GoD and likely is again by the time Toppo is set up to take over the role.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We don't really have much reason to believe the gods of destruction are that far apart in power. Beerus hasn't really fought or done anything noteworthy in a while, there's.no reason to believe he can beat mastered ultra instinct

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Beerus and Quitella are stronger than all the other GoDs by the battle royale; Beerus is stronger than MUI by the fact he states he can quickly finish off angel Moro.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >took all his power to land one hit
      >strongest
      GODku would have won

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gohan was supposed to become the main character after the android arc so Toriyama won.
      Buu saga would have been more kino if Gotenks defeated Buu and Vegeta fied sacrifying himself to weaken him.
      DBS is pure shittery outside of a handful of things like beinging back Frieza, Jiren and Hit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jiren
        Anon, don't confuse shitposting with the actual plot. That's almost as bad as citing shit from DBZA

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Buu saga would have been more kino
        not really, the point of Buu was that all the new tricks like Super Saiyan forms, Gohan's bullshit powerup and fusion fail super hard
        and instead, a move that failed 100% of the time has to be used to save the day, using the strength of the common people not roided out aliens

        it's quite possibly the most meaningful and kino capstone on the series possible

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Gohan was supposed to become the main character after the android arc so Toriyama won.
        you gohangays have been saying this for over 20 years. shut up already

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FLOPhan is a jobber.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      super was never canon its all toyotaro fanfic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Last Canon Decision of Akira Toriyama:
      Fixed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked Gohan until they forced those ugly glasses on him, married him to Videl and let him have this brat of a daughter, complete character assassination.

      Also DB AF will always be more canon than Super.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Black Frieza is currently the top mortal in the manga.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah White vs Black soon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gohan Blanco es el más fuerte

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good the super manga was awful the only good thing was Ultra Ego Design

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yugioh is doing fine with its creator dead. konami is still making anime and cards and now putting money in a new VR/AR game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the modern ygo anime is fricking garbage though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So is Dragon Ball.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        define garbage.
        nobody cares about yugioh for the plot.
        its all about the card battles and absurd memes.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only dumb GX zoomers think that
          YGO is one of the better shonens unironically

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >GX zoomers
            GX is a millenial show you tard
            shit, half of 5D's wouldn't be zoomer either

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              spoken like a true zoomer

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            outside of card battles why do you care about yugioh? theres nothing to write about. the characters exist just to push the cards. even the show jokes about replacing people with dueling ai.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              are you aware that yugi started as a manga with yugi tricking people into killing themselves?
              the card game got popular BECAUSE the manga, not the opposite.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yugioh has been card game longer than it was season 0 shit. like how phantasy star ONLINE has been around longer than phantasy star the jrpg.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                has nothing to do with anything, the question was why care about yugi beyond the cards. I have zero interest in the card game or the anime that came after because the OG story was good and interesting.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not if they use the cards themselves

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >modern ygo anime
        No such thing. Vrains was 5 years ago
        Wait what the frick it's actually 7

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this we just have to keep playing the DB card game and all will be good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YGO is a card game first and an anime second
      That's not the case with DB

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >YGO is a card game first and an anime second
        >That's not the case with DB
        But YGO started out as a Shadow Games manga. Duel Monsters part just so happened to be what turned it into a giant franchise.

        Also DB had been making OC content long before Super came into existence OP. See the donut steels of Dragon Ball Heroes that have been around longer than Super's serialization.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canon Dragon Ball material ended in the mid-90s.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Toriyama didn't finish writing the black Freiza outline
      oh no, bros

      he writes the plot points for everything post-gt and wrote the movies directly, moron.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    every artist needs a dead man's switch

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dragon Ball should have ended literally 1 page after Goku stopped being a child

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if there were a game about Freiza attacking Namek and looking for the Dragon Balls?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dragon ball ended at Z + broly, change my mind

    everything since then has been completely irrelevant and unimportant

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon ball ended with Frieza arc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Ball ended with the manga, everything else is an extra and it's dumb trying to rank it on how canon it is

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I enjoyed BoG, I don't know who liked Resurrection F though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i thought the choice of battleground for erection F was pretty cool

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What did Bejita mean by this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Translation: "prostitutes will be prostitutes."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guy that formerly travels galaxies knows long distance relationships don't work.
      very sound.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most people only care about Z, no? and movies i guess.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, Super was a massive success, streaming sites were crashing during the Tournament of Power. Even the most normalgay people I know were talking about Dragon Ball again because of Super. It revitalized the franchise massively and made it bigger than ever in terms of revenue.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is popular because of anime. Manga is fkin bad so hard. Everything turned flop 180° after tournament arcs. It worse than before because no one controlled Toyotarou from copying other manga/games plot and added Dragonball's characters into those things. The most bs is fight with fkin magic and next arc turn into detective duo gays mixed with Dragon Quest characters.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Not quite
    So that means it is partially super saiyan. Assuming this is a hybrid for saiyan-earthlings only?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So Goten and Trunks can go Beast too?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trunks has that gigahomie broly-like form.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate how Toyotaro draws Beerus, he looks more like a mouse than a cat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Beerus looks like fricking trash anyway.
        One of the worst designs in Super that isn't a throwaway shitter.

        It's a damn shame Toriyama didn't have his old editors with him to tell him when he's making something that sucks pondwater.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It means it's exactly what it fricking looks like, Super Saiyan 2 (2): Ultimate Edition

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd assume it's like Broly's Super Saiyan, a mutant transformation that's genetically exclusive for that one single individual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate how Toyotaro draws Beerus, he looks more like a mouse than a cat.

      Beerus looks like fricking trash anyway.
      One of the worst designs in Super that isn't a throwaway shitter.

      It's a damn shame Toriyama didn't have his old editors with him to tell him when he's making something that sucks pondwater.

      Daily reminder that Beerus is a bisexual bottom b***h.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gotta plap

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "It should have ended at"-gays get the rope.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fire Toyotaro before he gives Toriyama stupid ideas. I can count Dragonball Super as fanfic Dragonball. This is so bad at writing story and become Dragon Quest

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fire Toyotaro before he gives Toriyama stupid ideas.
      anon I...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's just going to make AF canon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >before he gives toriyama more bad ideas
      anon....i.....i don't know if you are really this unaware or just trolling.....

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fire Toyotaro before he gives Toriyama stupid ideas.
      Anon I don't think Toriyama... never mind

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fire Toyotaro before he gives Toriyama stupid ideas.
      Don't worry anon, Toriyama won't be listening to Toyotaro going forward.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully dragon ball is buried for good this time, let it rest in peace already

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe this shit series, that I used to watch when I was a teenager who couldn't differentiate left from right, was still being consumed to this day

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DB is the only good anime, what are you talking about?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >power level this power level that
        >a new ancient evil has awoken
        >slice of life inbetween
        what 'super saiyajin level' are we at now? 10?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I used to watch when I was a teenager
      you mean 5 years ago?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        watch it now I've been on this website since 2020 you newbie

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >unironically being 16 when DBS end
          suicide is your only choice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No dodoposting on Ganker

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Teriyaki should have took Super with him to the grave

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I am no mangaka, and I will never draw again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was Toriyama's son's influence on DB?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        did you somehow miss the part where Goku suddenly got married and had a child?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're telling me that Goku got married and had a son just because Toriyama got married and had a son?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no shit, genius

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds like something you made up but okay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gohan introduced in: Chapter 196, October 8, 1988
                >Toriyama's son born on: March 23, 1987
                timeline fits to a T

                Did Toriyama married the wrong woman too?

                English pls

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chupame el pito

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are you telling me god of onions is about a father and son because the onions director Cory has a son
                Sounds like something that happens more often than you think

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did Toriyama married the wrong woman too?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SASUKE-SAMA I KNEEL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is Sasuke Toriyama a mangaka as well?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People b***h about thing, but keep watching/reading it
    Is this white boy mental illness?

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can just make shit up
    Toriyama did that all the time

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The latest DBS chapter was kino, dont @ at me.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they were already just rehashing storylines from Z. last time I checked they were redoing the Saiyaman saga but with Goten and Trunk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was an addon to the Super Hero movie story
      Also all the other new shit was (mostly) unique, worst it got was one of the villains devolving from an interesting concept into yet another copycat villain for the last fight

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Toyotaro make Dragon Ball AF canon now?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nothing he does now will ever be considered canon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not? Who can make canon stuff now, Toriyama's son?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nobody.
          People only considered Super canon because Toriyama worked on it, ignoring that he also had a hand on GT. But you can't even use that argument anymore, nothing new can ever be considered canon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Toyo has been doing OC for years and no one else is dignifying his work with merchandise. No Moro or Granolah figures, nothing in Xenoverse or FighterZ. I don't think they've been in Heroes or Dokkan. If no manga-only characters are in Sparking Zero, that basically shows that Bamco doesn't give a frick.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So, Dragon Ball Super is not canon. Reddityama wasnt involved in it, He only allowed using his name to scam morons.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's canon.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DUDE GOHAN CAN GO GIGA ULTRA BREAK DELUXE NOW
    >WOAH BRO GOKU UNLOCKED MASTER MEGA PERFECT KI FORM
    >BUT DUDE VEGETAS PERFECT DARK MEGA SUPER DOOPER POOPER SCOOPER FORM IS LITERALLY THE BEST BROOOO

    literally what's the point? Seems like Dragon Ball has finally become a power level singularity where there's literally no plot and characters only exist to get color coded forms. At least DBZ has a fricking plot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DB will need a reboot at some point.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It needs it right now lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, wait until they defeat Beerus, after that they can do whatever they want.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no it doesn't. it needs to end.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        daima looks like dragon ball but with babies so maybe its the reboot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >goku get's an angel form
      >bejita get's a god of destruction form
      >piccolo get's a namekian form
      >gohan get's a human/saiyan hybrid form
      what exactly is the issue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because they'll still just go "um ackshully Frieza took steroids again" and he'll one shot all of them, and they'll just have to unlock more meaningless forms

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The series has shifted to more internal development within forms and characters rather than a new number
          Frieza and Gohan are the only deviations from this because Frieza is mentally catching up to where Goku was when they first fought, and Gohan was to appease "fans" who legitimately only want that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but these forms are actually the one time they have made sense. Goku, Bejita and Gohan unlocked them through a state of mind, and is not like a new form will get made after Toriyama's dead.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and is not like a new form will get made after Toriyama's dead
            But Super literally has no other story to tell outside of form-wanking

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >moving the goal post
              whatever you say anon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what happens when a new random villain who's somehow stronger then everyone shows up and makes everyone except Goku redundant? More forms?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Buu saga was all about subverting asspull forms as a problem solver
        >Super immediately returns and TRIPLES DOWN on asspull forms being the defacto problem solver

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Buu saga was all about subverting asspull forms as a problem solver
          this is probably the most poignant reason why Buu feels like the true finale to DB
          nothing works, they've run out of new forms and bullshit techniques to out beast the villain

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          BoG set up God as a kind of power ceiling and didn't even solve the problem
          RF immediately forgot that and introduced a new form exclusively for marketing, but it also did what Buu did and didn't put any importance on the transformation itself, which the characters had already achieved
          Super didn't even introduce any new forms itself until its literal final aired arc, where UI was presented as something different from brute force

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and introduced a new form exclusively for marketing
            it introduced a new form because SSG was disgustingly unpopular(srsly, merch sales for it were ass) and looked like dogwater

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i remember how everybody was sucking the dick of that form for a single day, the complete denial lol

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It looks way better than super saiyan but blue or 3

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It looks way better
                stopped reading
                it doesn't
                KWAB
                bye

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and seethe bluetard

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >didn't even solve the problem
            By immediately making it so the GoD is actually an infinite, unsurpassable ceiling. Super's powerscalling is a parody of the series

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>Buu saga was all about subverting asspull forms as a problem solver
          bejita realises his limits so he get's a new form to compensate (majin bejita).
          goku reaches SSJ3 a form that only works when you are dead.
          gotenks finds a way around the energy consumption issue by being a literal fusion of 2 beings.
          >but guys g-god-han
          not the MC not the form that won any fight even but actually the form that caused goku to return as the MC.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And none of those gimmicks put down Buu. The only thing that takes care of him is the combined effort of the entire population of Earth. It doesn't matter what new form is pulled out. Buu is a chaotic force of nature that himself can gimmick his way out of their gimmicks. Even at the end of the day, the Spirit Bomb only destroys a part of Buu while the fat one just needs an explanation that killing is wrong. In both times, the heroes couldn't save the day directly, and the Earth they saved in the past instead returned the favor. That's the real kino of the ending.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Berserk can manage to continue without Miura, then Dragon Ball can easily continue without Toriyama. Give it like 6 months and they'll be back.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gohan really can't catch a break. This is the 2nd time he gets a super special new form and the 2nd time it will go nowhere. Being Gohan is pain.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The granolah arc was such dogshit, shame since moro was somewhat decent. Anything worth reading past that point? I stopped after that mini arc with trunks being a super hero

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      make it faster paced and remove the bardock wish stuff and it'd be like a 6/10

      the super hero stuff is mostly the same but it's worth reading the 1-2 chapters after it since it is new content after the movie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make it faster paced
        It was paced fine- its problem was that it was trying to tell a story in a similar format as the Broly movie which inspired it, but in a manga with a monthly release schedule that made it feel like it was dragging on

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The new Saiyaman stuff acts as a decent expansion to the SH movie, except very little reference is made to Gohan being the original Saiyaman. The final chapter is a decent end to the franchise. You could probably skip to chapter 101 or something, if you've seen the SH movie already.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As if SHITro and SHITnola are barely even referenced by anything

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >core philosophy of DB is that the good guys work hard for their strength while the bad guys rely on natural talent or shortcuts to get power, and any time the good guys are tempted by a shortcut they get punished
    >Super throws this in the trash by letting Piccolo literally fricking wish for Ultra Instinct level power, and giving the same level of power to Gohan because he got angry... Again.
    At this point why not just give fricking Krillin a bullshit form that's Jiren level?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toriyama was going senile
      Hopefully Daima doesn't posthumously shit the bed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unfortunately it looks like fricking Shin of all people is one of the main characters so I've already given up hope

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because both of them are bald? I hope I can see Jiren uses Solar Flare somedays

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >core philosophy of DB is that the good guys work hard for their strength
      how to tell me you've never read DB without telling me you've never read DB

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off. Hard work > being born with power has always been the core theming of DB. Gohan and Broly are trash ass nothingburger characters who are defined by "muh potential" and nothing else, likewise, this also makes them the perfect power fantasy self-insert for b***hboys. I hate them and I think their "muh potential" gimmick is fricking lame and contradicts DB's core theming of hard work and self-improvement. "Oooh he got mad so now he’s powerscaled above everyone else!!" Gohan and Broly are worse than those homosexual ass Androids in this regard. They eat asspulls for breakfast and their continued existence are the opposite of "training and hard work." You can go back to OG DB and see how putting in work is always the answer. It was even one of the main themes of the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. The very reason why Muten Roshi wants Goku and Kuririn to participate in the tournament is for them to LOSE and learn that you always need to improve because sooner or later you'll meet someone stronger

        (1/4)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goku lives and breathes training. Goku was not born as strong as the Gods just because. Neither did Vegeta for that matter, and he's a fighting prodigy who was considered the pinnacle of Saiyan power (at least at the time the original manga was written), who even as a little boy was already far stronger than the King, but after meeting Goku, he learned and acknowledged the value and importance of proper training and keeping up with your training because otherwise you'll be surpassed by others who do keep their training up. Those two have been grinding practically their entire lives, and the results showed.

          Even villains like Freeza after his beatdown from Goku put in the work to achieve his power. Other villains, like Cell, are frustrating because they never worked hard. That’s why it's so satisfying for them to fail. Meanwhile, b***h ass Gohan and manbaby Broly encapsulates everything I hate in modern DB's writing style and power escalation.

          (2/4)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ironic then that Goku is the benefactor of one of the most BS power ups in the entire series, being his Namek zenkai after getting his ass beat by Vegeta. Taking him from a measly 90k to being able to keep up with a not trying Final form Frieza. He wasn't even beat up that bad.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Before the "Gohan is by far the strongest" that Toriyama pulled out of nowhere in the Cell arc, his potential was never a major focus in the story. Sure, there was the WTF factor of what happened in the Raditz fight, but even after training he wasn't the strongest fighter alive, Piccolo was. Even with rage boosts, he couldn't do anything to Nappa and at best stall an extremely weakened Vegeta for a few moments. Go into the Namek arc. Gohan got his potential unlocked and even with a rage boost, he managed to knock 2nd form Freeza down, with no actual damage dealt. Besides that, he was a complete deadweight, that came along Kuririn because, besides wanting to help his friends, he had to, since no one else could.

            Then comes the Cell arc, Gohan was a complete non-factor until his training in the Room of Spirit and Time. He did absolutely nothing relevant in terms of power and there was no build up to how powerful he would become throughout the arc. If he really were meant to take the role as the main character, there would be more build up towards it. That's just writing 101.

            The power escalation Toriyama did was SO big, he had to completely change Gohan's character into a pacifist reluctant hero that would go on and define his entire character for the entire series, something that's never happened at all in his other rage boosts. And even then, when things got hard because he fricked up, he still wanted to give up without even trying, Goku had to tell him to man up.

            (3/4)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Skip to the Majin Boo arc where Gohan's pacifist characterization continues, he has severely slacked off and went from being stronger than Cell to being weaker than Cell and getting destroyed after doing frick all for 7 years. Then, he goes to the Kaioshin planet to train and this could've been the perfect opportunity for Gohan to learn the importance of training and not getting complacent even in times of peace, but that's never been the case and here comes the biggest bullshit power up in the original manga; he gets all his power unlocked, he becomes by FAR stronger then SS3 Goku, who's been training non-stop for 7 years... So did Vegeta, who sort of became a laughing stock in terms of power balance compared to the top dogs of the arc... Or Gotenks, completely shitting on one of the coolest gimmicks of the arc and making it damn near pointless if Vegetto wasn't a thing, just from sitting on his ass for 24 hours.

              And the worst part about "Ultimate Gohan" is that he doesn't have ANY drawbacks at all. No energy drain like SS3, no time limit like fusion, no nothing. He's just the strongest because he's fricking Gohan. Why do you think he couldn't catch an earring? Because Toriyama realized how hard he screwed up Gohan's character and the power escalation, that's why he brought back Goku and Vegeta for the final battle. Even Goku saving Dende and Mr. Satan is a consequence of that, because Gohan would've thrashed Boo so hard it would be a terribly anticlimactic ending to the arc. Besides, it's not like he needed to save Dende for Dragon Balls, since the Namekian ones are there readily available.

              So yeah, Gohan and Broly are trash. And I'm tired of characters getting undeserved power-ups to let them catch up cheaply and has a lot more actual relevance than training because of "muh potential". That's why Gohan and Broly are bottom of the barrel trash.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Hard work > being born with power has always been the core theming of DB.
          you've never read DB lmao
          Goku is an overpowered shit that steamrolls everybody and learns moves in 2 seconds
          not reading the rest of your schizo drivel

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Goku is an [HEADCANON]
            That got subverted in the Saiyan arc when we find out that Goku was bottom of the barrel trash who got sent away to a backwater planet like Earth because he was never set for greatness (or so the Saiyans thought).

            Maybe YOU didn't read DB, homosexual. And I know you didn't and just based off your knowledge from Youtube clips and Anitubers.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >BUH AFTER THE FIRST 200 CHAPT-
              lol
              lmao even
              DB is not le Naruto, secondary-kun
              Goku was OP from day 1, project harder

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Goku was [HEADCANON]
                That later got retconned when we find out Goku was born with a PL of 2, literally the weakest Saiyan ever and Vegeta was one of the strongest, stronger than the King as a child. A PL of 18k was God tier Saiyan PL and you still had Namekians like Nail that dwarfed it as well as random aliens like Freeza and Ginyu. Not to mention that all the half breed Saiyans were repeatedly stated to have greater potential than Goku, but they just don't train as hard as he does, that's why Goku is the strongest.

                Keep grasping for those straws and come up with more excuses, gay.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did you miss the part where gohan actually stopped training and got oneshotted by First Form Freeza?
      He was actually training post-TOP in Super Hero
      Piccolo has been training hard since the start of the story, he's just never been given any respect for no reason

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gohan was still seen as a pathetic slacker at the start of the movie so that "off-screen training" stuff is total bullshit. Fricking hell characters in Z had to work literal decades to become strong now we have bullshit where everyone was secretly doing offscreen pushups so they can totally match up with God level power

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The idea of bringing back the namek saga "Potential Unlocked" thing for Piccolo isn't inherently bad. It was already canon and a cool idea for the main Namekian in the series to get it, but I think it was too quick. If it were in an arc and not a film maybe they could have built it up in a more satisfying way.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beerus and Whis aren't villains, just amoral. This is why they can constantly be the top tiers, threaten to kill innocents and then reverse time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is why they can constantly be the top tiers,
        lmao they're the reason the cast hasn't expanded at all in 10 fricking years

        the rule is, old villain becomes fren(emy) who jobs to the new villain and establishes new threat

        because suckass ligmahomosexual Beerus doesn't do this, he's permanently hogging the new team member spot and nothing is moving forward ever

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I watched a youtube video on how Rock Lee was robbed now every shonen in existence is purely about Hard Work vs Talent and I will judge them solely based on this
      Rock Lee was a mistake

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Regardless of Rock Lee, an underdog is always fun to root for. It's always satisfying to see someone earn there win or for hard work to pay off. That's why it's be great to see someone like Tien do something or even Yamcha although I think he gave up on training. I haven't watched Super, but to me its got to be the most boring anime. Every single character is just suddenly God tier powerful and because they fricked the power scaling up so much, it just gets more and more ridiculous.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Piccolo already absorbed Nail and Kami for big power ups that put him right around a Super Saiyan in terms of power level, and Toriyama has made claims in the past that him absorbing another strong Namekian would probably put him at Super Buu tier. Namekian power ups have always been a tad strange, but I'm sure they didn't want to just keep fusing new Namekians to him, and since the Namekians are inherently tied to Dragon balls anyways, it was probably the best bet they had in making him relevant.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >STILL reading the Super manga
    >After that part where master fricking Roshi was unironically faster then Jiren

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not what that was, power level sperg.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    xenoverse 3 this time including original dragonball, gt and heroes along z/super

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it did for around 20 years.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just make more hair colors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yellow
      >black
      >white
      >blue
      >red
      >pink
      They are running out

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you lack imagination

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't wait for Super Saiyan chartreuse

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't the new artist also doing the story? I thought Toriyama was just only supervising.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is the manga any good? the show looks like shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same shit but told slightly differently, so yes and no

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eh, alright. Hey thanks friend

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. The manga has been spinning it's wheels for like 4 years because it has no idea where to take the story. Literally the characters are all currently just hanging out on a god's planet circlejerking about form power level. This has been going on for like a year.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The exclusive manga stuff has been entirely moving the plot forward- it's been stuck for a year because that moron liked Super Hero so much he wanted to adapt it in its entirety with an extra side story about Goten and Trunks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Copy other villian's abilities
      >Copy scene in old DBZ
      >Draft Toriyama's scenes
      >His ideas worse than trash

      Vid about copy other people's ideas

      ?feature=shared
      You can look other vids from this channel. It collects all Toyo bs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >character is literally a freiza clone
        >does a shared pose between freiza and cooler
        >"THIS IS COPIED FROM THE COOLER MOVIE"
        actual schizo shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not a single panel is the same as the one being compared to
        I didn't know nips could be this kind of schizos.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The manga looks even more shit

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Frieza Black will peacefully retire as the strongest character in the DB universe
    OOOOOHOOOHOOHOOHOOHOO

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big deal, the stories are always the same anyway.
    >Villain shows up
    >Kills Goku's friend or beats Goku
    >Goku trains or learns some super duper secret technique
    >Goku fights villain and wins

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I like Cell
    >I copy it
    >I called it with new name

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who made the original moro design, toyo or tori?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Toyo's idea with copy cell's artstyle

        Look like he traces more than I think

        Check out Tracertaro (@tracertaro): https://twitter.com/tracertaro?t=WU-nFL8f2EHKRlYcwuJSrw&s=06

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >toriyama's successor draws similar panels
          >Ganker "IS THIS TRACING?"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >obvious lazy copies
            Doesnt have to be traced. The only thing stupider than Super's existence is your own.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't this basically the same as Dark Souls 3 copying everything from Dark Souls and claiming it's a 'call back' or whatever and everyone ate it up?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But Dark Souls 3 didn't copy everything from Dark Souls

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's DS2 with Ornstein and shit randomly showing up. It's a dumb reference laden trashheap.

        DS3 is just a sequel that expands on shit from the first game, like any great sequel. Eg, Terminator 2, Aliens etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dark souls 3 was more of a fanservice game.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Terminator 2 is just a fanservice movie!!!!
          this is you rn schizo

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't consider the autism colors canon

    even gt made more of an effort

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't [HEADCANON]
      Good. Begone.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am gonna say it Dragon ball Multiverse was better than super

    also.

    Post them spics. OST you want to see in the new game

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have enough material for 20 years. And they've yet to adapt Moro and Granolah anyways. Plus Daima is coming.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know Japan is massive on the "IP Honor" stuff of it's creators, but I thought the Dragon Ball franchise was too big for that

    Based as frick Japan, finally killing this dogshit spinoff

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What? There's plenty of franchises still going after the death of their creators, like Berserk as previously mentioned

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't even know it had a manga LMAO

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why yes, yes it does

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dragon Ball is now complete trash, and Toriyama died with this fact haunting his mind.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously Pedogita knows the names of all the children.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God, the way Toyo draws Goku is just dogshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Studio wienerpit
        anyone else have different looks/artstyles associated with different arcs?
        like for me, Buu is Studio wienerpit, Cell/Androids is Yamamuro at his peak, Saiyan/Frieza is Sato etc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not my hero.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow Toryiama is learning from Togashi I see. Lazy homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Toriyama died, anon. He's not learning anything anymore.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tiruyana is not learning anything anymroe

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Repeat after me:
    "I will never disrespect my PRINCE again."

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else still feel weirded out on Toriyama's death? Like I know it's been a week and all, but he just, died.
    By tripping.
    He just tripped and died. No disease, no health issues, no heart attack or anything. He just fricking fell on his face and peaced out. At least Miura was battling with some health issue, but it's still surreal to me.
    In a way, it's almost like a joke from Toriyama himself.
    >Man, it sure is great being the most famous comic author globally! I wonder what today will bring!
    >trips and dies
    >Huh...
    >Well, never been to the afterlife before! I wonder what today will bring!
    He'd probably laugh before apologizing over such a bad joke.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He just tripped and died. No disease, no health issues, no heart attack or anything.
      About that:
      >Toriyama had almost no health issues until 2022, but was hospitalized during the pandemic. Then around April 2023, he emailed Ohkawa letting him know he was considering being hospitalized due to a brain tumor. Ohkawa was concerned, but not overly so since Toriyama seemed so healthy at the time.
      >Toriyama later emailed saying he was undergoing brain surgery in February 2024 to remove the tumor, before passing away on March 1st of an acute subdural hematoma. Ohkawa doesn't know whether the two were related.
      He still could've tripped and fell, but he may also have had a lesion that burst...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hmm... so it was just bad luck. Even then it still seems like one last joke.
        Well, hopefully Oda doesn't kick it before One Piece ends. No idea what Jump will do if that happens. Or after, for that matter. It's pretty much the only ongoing big series from before the 2000s that has major popularity.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They'll make more One Piece even after One Piece ends. You're smoking crack if you think otherwise

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The japanese are more autistic than you think. Will there be more one piece movies and whatever? Sure. But the main material will be done. Everything following after will be tablescraps of revenue.

            Surely his editors already know how One Piece ends in case something happens to Oda.

            Maybe, but finding a team capable of Oda's work ethic is also a huge ask. He's a soldier and hardly took many breaks during his career.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Surely his editors already know how One Piece ends in case something happens to Oda.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the way it is, one day you take a wrong step and you're dead, everything you did in life doesn't matter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yugioh creator literally died by drowning while diving.
      people always die unexpectedly unless they're a old fart.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >drowning while diving.
        While saving lives of strangers*

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He didn't even save that lady; a random jap mil guy did; no one even noticed there was an old man drowning. What a humiliating way to go for a guy that's known across the world.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >drowning while diving.
            While saving lives of strangers*

            yugioh creator literally died by drowning while diving.
            people always die unexpectedly unless they're a old fart.

            He also got eaten by sharks. I legitimately hope he was dead before that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              if you saw the mako tsunami episode he's still out there bro the cops just found a fake body

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >die doing what you love
            it's fricked, but there's nothing wrong with that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No one loves drowning you fricking mong

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do homosexual

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love Kefla so much bros. <3

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all the kids that tried to go super sayian and failed because they couldn't feel their back tingles

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're still getting 50 more years of DragonBall. They'll probably reboot it again too. You won't be lacking any content so long as one of the most popular pieces of media continues to make a profit (forever)

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope you pretyped your shit senpai, it's more funny that way.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't some people want manga exclusive characters/forms in the games?

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick toriyama died....

    now we will never get super saiyan green, brown, astral and any other color....

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we already have green. LSSJ

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LSSJ wasn't meant to be green originally, it was just the first movie using wacky color palettes for style points
        design sheet & movie 2/3 both have proper golden hair with a slight hint of greenness on shading & aura only
        fricking secondaries don't seem to know that though

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it confirmed indefinite? because I saw this before the chapter dropped and the chapter itself just said on haitus for the next issue

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just think if a series ends with its creator, and people feel this honest about it, how can anyone unironically defend Aislop when it steals the very data of millions of already dead people?

    Do you really think things should just die because the creators do? Is nothing suppose to be loved billions of yeas latter like humanity has nothing to give longterm?

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good. Super fricking blows.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goku was always a moron stop posting secondary talking points

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, because he's acting like a moron on the left, right, you fricking dipshit. Imagine defending Super's moronation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goku could also be serious because he wasn't a 1-dimensional non-character like he is in Super.
        Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe the series that pioneered such hits like: purple hair, blue hair, white hair, red hair, and so on, is actually pretty well written and epic.
        Fricking morons.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair that might be disappointment at the fact the last two divine power ups he saw were just rituals (ultimate gohan, SSG)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To this day I'm still genuinely confused on why Super made Goku retract so hard mentally.

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