How would one go about fixing the terrible management system?

How would one go about fixing the terrible management system?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, Amiri and Hedwirg are brother and sister?!

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't get into this game. There are so many things wrong with combat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The combat is actually perfect

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, lmao.
        Combat is all about pre buffing.
        There is no tactic or strategy required.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and thats what makes it perfect.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No combat suffers from not being committed to a single playstyle. It's a mistake to have both real time and turn based options. Arcanum steamworks also suffer from the same idiot design, either design the game like an ARPG with real time combat or just turn based. But as it happens it has both and it has a really retarded turn based mechanic where attack and movement is separated into 2 categories, and every round you get 30 points to spend in each category with no distance indicator. Skill descriptions are overdone with verbose, giving way too much useless detail about all kinds of useless shit, like all that lore dump ought to be put in a separate encyclopedia somewhere in the game but not in the gameplay. Your cursor tends to snap on targets when you're trying to use AoE spells which is always annoying. Then game starts and there are 3 women in my party. There are pink and lavender colors in the UI which looks like a make up blending tab and it made me ask how many women has worked on this game cause they certainly took their liberties with the color palette.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yikes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You expect me to read all that bitching about nothing? The combat is perfect

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, and thats what makes it perfect.

            What do you mean? The game looks fine to me.

            Why are all pozzfinder fag so mindless?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know that someone is a newfag who has no fucking clue about the game when he compares it to Arcanum.
          Like, not even defending the actual mechanics of kingmaker here. But the comparison shows you have no idea how either Arcanum or kingmaker work

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Arcanum also had a turn based/real time hybrid gameplay, that was the comparison dipshit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And it's a wrong one,stupid motherfucker

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The game was originally rtwp only, the turn based mode was a later addition. The combat being shit is only because of owlcats' incompetence.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No combat suffers from not being committed to a single playstyle. It's a mistake to have both real time and turn based options.
          DnD has had this albatross around its neck for decades. It's always been a PnP turn based system being forced into a simulation of real time where it doesn't truly belong. People still like the system though, so it endures. Blaming one game for the whole genre is disingenuous especially when that game has a better implementation of both styles than any that has come before because Vancian matters since time does, and actual differentiation between swift action, move etc.

          Personally I think most games should go full ARPG and discard RWTP so we have more games like Dragon's Dogma but that requires a commitment to newer engines and lore from the ground up that isn't in everyone's interest to develop from scratch I think. I'd rather we still had these kinds of games than not.

          >Skill descriptions are overdone with verbose, giving way too much useless detail about all kinds of useless shit, like all that lore dump ought to be put in a separate encyclopedia somewhere in the game but not in the gameplay.
          Minor quibble for people that are literate.
          > Your cursor tends to snap on targets when you're trying to use AoE spells which is always annoying.
          If you learned to read you would know this can be turned off by holding down ctrl or in the menus.
          >Then game starts and there are 3 women in my party. There are pink and lavender colors in the UI which looks like a make up blending tab and it made me ask how many women has worked on this game cause they certainly took their liberties with the color palette.
          Must be Wrath complaints, yeah the pink and cyan trend everywhere trend is pretty annoying so I'll grant you this one. It comes from the cancer that is leftism though, not necessarily women per se.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your kingmaker opener parties will have at least 2 women out of 4 (amiri and one of linzi/Jaethal). 3 if you get Valerie over harrim.

            Claiming this a problem is interesting in it's own right

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >RWTP
            Trying to do 2 at the same time is causing a problem. This game would've been infinitely more comfortable to play if you just slap divinity's turn based combat, and no pause. Or just have real time with pause and completely design everything around that, which plays like the classical rpgs.
            >Minor quibble for people that are literate.
            Absolutely not. Skill definitions, damage and the rest of the fucking combat descriptions, I have to scoop through paragraphs to understand what could've been a simple image indicator with a number written near it. It's confusing and could've been done much simpler. It felt like the lore is just slapped on everything.
            >If you learned to read you would know this can be turned off by holding down ctrl or in the menus.
            That's not a dealbreaker for me but nonetheless. Numerous games I like also have this annoying snapping. If they thought about that then great. I didn't play it that much since there were other things which turned me off.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kingmaker was made with rtwp only. The turn based was am extremely popular mod they added in after the fact.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The game was developed as RtwP and released with RtwP only.
              Your little brain will ask 'then how come they released turn based that works'? That woudl require for you to understand how DnD works and the backbone of RtwP mechancis in the game, but that is too much work. I will instead call you a newfag that does not know what he is talking about

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >too much reading 0/10

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao. I can read as the story progresses. It's better to play the game and learn about the lore than having a book opened in front of me about everyone's heritage when I'm trying to understand the mechanics.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    many more minor court events and less city building

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would start by scrapping the entire game and making a new game from the ground up because this game is shit.
    Put Pathfinder in the title so i can filter it next time you mention this game, thanks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could, just not enter the thread.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could,just put pathfinder in the title so it would get automaticly filtered and i would have never seen this thread in the first place.
        But you will avoid filters to force people who dont want to see ur shit game to see ur threads and then say "lolololol dont reply loololol".
        kys.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >(You) sound mad about your (you) problem.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would start by scrapping the entire game and making a new game from the ground up because this game is shit.
          Put Pathfinder in the title so i can filter it next time you mention this game, thanks.

          mind fucking broken
          imagine seething this hard over a game

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >(You) sound mad about your (you) problem.

            >20 seconds apart
            Lmao.
            He needed to take out his phone and write 2 replies at once because 1 wasnt enought to calm him down.
            Hahahaha.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >mental illness.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You OK, big guy? Having a little tantrum on the Internet there, were you? Maybe it's time for a little nap, cos somebody's getting grouchy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Put Pathfinder in the title
      This but also put up a second sticky in very large letters telling idiots to search the catalog before making yet another Pathfinder thread. Do we really need 12+ Pathfinder threads running at any one time?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is only 1 other pathfinder thread and it's past bump limit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's still too many.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps, it was just disappointing I could not find the other 10.
            Why would someone do that? Just post lies?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never minded the management stuff too much. Unlike the sequel, it fits the overall campaign that there is some element of building your kingdom

    Its the boring and repetitive combat that kills it. Every fight is just against big balls of HP and damage. BG2 with SCS absolutely mogs it in combat variety

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't mind it too much. It flowed with the story very well and gave purpose to alot of the main qeusts. Finally getting your capital into a city felt pretty good and made me want to defend it. It definitely needed to remove the damn "upgrade" system in favor of an xp system for your advisors and kingdom. Doing a 2 week upgrade that you can't pause while your kingdom collapses was pretty stupid.
    It'd be far better if every successful resolution your advisors came up with for a problem granted them "xp" to further their advisor levels. Also buldings should give a weekly "xp" income for villages, towns, and cities. The ones you invest resources into grow the fastest, ones you don't invest in don't grow. Also make converting a village to a town cost alot of BP to force you to pick and choose which you want to upgrade.
    I dont know how I'd fix WoTR though.... I like HoMM but this slav jank nock off isn't fun. I'd probably cut it in favor of making more decisions at the war table. Still have armies, recruitment and building but make it an auto resolve thing?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean? The game looks fine to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They got filtered because it wasn't easy mode

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    flag the "repeat crisis" activities.

    first playthrough i spent sooo much wasted effort on shit that was just supposed to tell me to fix other crap.

    also let me see the complete calls skill tree to pick from. doing a build without a guide is retardedly obtuse

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >terrible
    What's terrible about it? It's a coin sink with some utility to it. What's wrong with that?
    Personally, I would prefer both more depth and involvement with story from it. In a perfect world - I build shit and it branches the story, but I digress. In case you hate it till your face turns purple you can even just pick the auto-management and pretend it doesn't exist.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >play RTwP
    >smack enemy spellcaster, force them to lose their spell
    >0.000001 seconds later they are casting the exact same spell
    Fucking why. The proper response of eating their action if they fail a spell is not that hard to code.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I couldn't play rtwp, some abilities take so long that the combat is already over when I get to cast them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AoO?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You only have a limited amount of those and that only works if they don't pass their defensive casting check, which is jacked on every single enemy spellcaster in the game and especially in the late game. Either way, getting in a wild hunt monarch's face with a martial and then seeing him chaincast Dispel Magic until I run out of attacks to interrupt his stupid 1.5 second cast time with is fucking bullshit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You only have a limited amount
          What are feats that increases how many AoOs you have.
          > that only works if they don't pass their defensive casting check,
          Hit them harder than. Defensive casting check is dc 10 + the damage they took when casting, so if you hit them for a pitiful 3 they only need a 13 to keep casting.
          > his stupid 1.5 second cast time
          Spell casting is based off of his initiative in combat and not its own thing. In other words, get a high initiative hard hitting multi attack per round martial on a casters ass and laugh as they fall to cast anything, or die trying.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What are feats that increases how many AoOs you have.
            Not relevant when they're not provoking AoOs.
            >Hit them harder than.
            Won't do anything unless you kill him.
            >Defensive casting check is dc 10 + the damage they took when casting,
            No it isn't, it's DC 15+spell levelx2 to never provoke an AoO. The concentration check to not lose your spell is something different and it doesn't even fucking matter in RTwP unless you have a full party gangbanging him and causing him to lose his spell 10 times in a single round.
            >Spell casting is based off of his initiative in combat
            Except it doesn't set his timer to 6 seconds like it would if his action completed. It ends the spellcast and acts like he never took an action, letting him cast again immediately because his round timer is 0. Try it out yourself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Not relevant when they're not provoking AoOs.
              Spell casting in melee always provokes AoO. Read the rules
              >Won't do anything unless you kill him.
              >Concentration Checks versus Injury
              DC 10 + the damage taken + the level of spell being cast.
              Read the rules.
              >it's DC 15+spell levelx2 to never provoke an AoO
              And you still keep your AoO on their next casting, which if your martial is still next to them, literally 1 second later.
              >Except it doesn't
              I would need to see it for myself, but from what I've seen it's based off of initiative unless something like meta magic like quicken or hasten spell are in play.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Spell casting in melee always provokes AoO.
                Wrong
                https://pathfinder-kingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Casting_Defensively#Casting_Defensively
                >but from what I've seen it's based off of initiative
                It isn't.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actions that provoke AoO
                >Casting a spell in melee/threat Reach (see Casting Defensively above).
                There are rules for this man. Not only are they in game, but also online.
                https://pathfinder-kingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Attacks_of_Opportunity_(AoO)
                >It isn't.
                Then quicken / hasten meta magic is in play, because it's based off of rounds and initiative.
                >A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed.
                https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Casting-Time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And if they successfully defensively cast, something that's automatically done if an enemy is threatening you, it doesn't provoke. That's the problem and it's why you see AoOs for spellcasting disappear in the lategame.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >something that's automatically
                It's not done automatically. You posted the check yourself. The only thing done automatically is the check, against one AoO and not others that are surrounding the mage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You make a cast defensively check once per spell, not once per enemy threatening you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Other AoO such as AoO caused by crits from seize the moment, or forced movement, or anything else that provokes AoO, including if they fail their defensive casting. Mages are so easy to mob in the late game my guy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now guess what happens if there are 3 of them separated from each other.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the visual feedback of this game's combat is garbage too. i never seen combat look so floaty, slow and unexciting to watch as if they're trying to swing their weapons underwater. it's actually embarrassing that even both Neverwinter Nights had better visual feedback than this game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a cartoony game so floaty combat is to be expected.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its pretty funny early on how even the arrows fly in slow motion

      Then you get haste and with a single spell the combat becomes just a chaotic mess

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the PKM management, it's a fun RP counterpoint against only questing and accumulating a giant gold total with nothing to do with it like in most games but you have to:

    >actually want to RP a king of some alignment you enjoy playing
    >mod out the absolutely dumb 14 day time sink penalty upon ranking up
    >understand the building bonus system and put some thought into city and town planning, having an investment mindset helps

    A little more feedback on how the rolls work would have been nicer for casuals, most of them don't know the advisor rolls are based off a primary stat for each type of advisor and can be influenced with gear. There's no reason transparent feedback shouldn't be part of such a complex game.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to shut the voice acting up for anything other than combat and such?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Press the mute button on your PC

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to fuck the barbarian girl

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take Owlcat off it and give the IP to someone else. They're fucking awful.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DAO's combat was way better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kinda agree, high tier d&d combat tends to get really dumb with tons and tons of bloat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its better because its made for retards like you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >because its made for retards
        Just like pathfinder then :^)

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rate my Treasures of Midnight Islands team:
    >gendarme cavalier
    >longbow ranger with dog
    >freebooter/knife master with dual kukris, probably will put rest of levels in other class
    >community/animal cleric
    >throwing weapon skald
    >nature oracle
    Currently at level 7 and started on the third set of islands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cavalier is so fucking kino

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He really carries the team, wouldn't have been able to beat the first boss without abusing charges.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cavalier seems dope
      >longbow ranger with dog
      Serviceably good but boring, didn't you get enough of this in pkm?
      >freebooter/knife master with dual kukris
      OP class and pirate motif combo in spades, I approve, but it's also your second ranger wtf are you doing moron?
      >community/animal cleric
      Boring again
      >throwing weapon skald
      Skalds rock, throwing weapon builds are patrician
      >nature oracle
      It's a good filler I guess with one of the more op revelation powers IIRC

      All buffs and cleric, no arcane and overweight? animal summons is kind of fun I guess but I've done way more interesting stuff with summons in PKM/CoTW so the mid Zoobilie Zoo bores me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get why you people spend so much time optimizing when you can easy peasy through the game just by giving yourself 6 animal companions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Role playing vs. collecting achievements.
        Plus it's a lot more fun to test out different party build ideas and themes especially with CoTW because it nerfs a lot of cheese to be way more in line with PnP while adding a ton of build options, overpowered cheap summon pets being one of those things.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pets
          so it makes the worst cheese even worse?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I worded that badly, but the vanilla cheaply summoned pets are super OP. CoTW nerfs their bloated stats to be in line with PnP but also adds the Summoner class and some adjacent ones like Dragon Shaman.

            You can do even crazier pet builds in CoTW but it takes more dedication with a focus on summoner/summoning stuff there and not just slap animal domain from cleric or some ranger level on a bunch of characters.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          CoTW?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a mod

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You get bag of tricks to auto-succeed every event and have them resolved in only one day. Unfortunately the game is still about 40 hours too long.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy spoilers below

    >Anons kept saying I should romance the flying cucumber thing for le true ending.
    >She is literally trying 24/7 to destroy me and my kingdom
    >Only way to rationalize is to play as literal jesus or some power-hungry dude trying to fool her
    >Might as well check the companion guides for the best ending
    >It is all about forgiveness and power of friendship
    >I refuse to believe the story can be this bad so check the ending slides myself
    >Literally most of the "evil" slides are better

    You fucking wonderboys lied to me, again. Why the fuck would i redeem hot milf Jaethal only for her to devote herself to some distant deity and fuck off to die in some holy war. The ending where she possess her daughter literally implies you two are fucking like rabbits and breed new future puppets to take over.

    And you can also just ally with the fey queen without redeeming her as well. In fact, you become cursed with immortality (oh noes how terrible!) and begin your eternal rule.

    Who the fuck is writing these "best ending" guides? Fucking cucks actually think nig-nok is a hero material and I should sacrifice myself for amiri because women are strong and brave.

    Game is going pretty solid right now. I am hunting down feminist witches and i will make the based hunter-gatherer Dugath the new chief.

    It is true the game has modern bugman morality but at least the choices are there and doesn't penalize you unless you attack everything you see. Probably the most fun I've ever had since dragon age origins. Although admittedly i am using bag of tricks to make buffs last much longer and party heals after combat etc. I am not a dnd nerd cba with that crap. 7.5/10.(Companions are mostly lame gays and slay qweens.*except based tiefling twins*) Hope wotr enhanced edition will be released by the time I finish this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon, just pretend your sex-deprived MC got smitten by her nude nymph form which is pretty RP-legit, as nymphs are supposed to be extremely attractive and your boy/girl has probably been in a sex dry-spell for a long time and after surviving some combat
      horny simp I can fix her pining is very believable to me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shit didn't see your post i was having a stroke over the whole Valerie thing, sorry anon. And yeah i will keep romancing the fey queen for now. Went too deep to pull out. I will edit the romance counters so i can keep the based tiefling twins and the nymph at the same time. I am super into this.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was only rally annoyed by the "polyamory" memeshit with the mage and her orc dicker Bonus points if 3P with feMC ewww
          Seriously, you shouldn't jump on EVERY fad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I completely avoided the former slave duo since I read about them before. They just sit on the courtyard and i pretend they don't exist unless i need them for some spell. But I remember people liking Valerie so it is a disappointment, to be sure. also:
            >pic rel
            Legit the only other companion I like besides twins. When I saw the whole edgy undead backstory and evil alignment I assumed she was going to start screeching in any second but to my surprise she is pretty cool. She doesn't sperg over my decisions, doesn't randomly kill people and she is loyal to me so far. Considering how terrible romances are I am glad she doesn't have one. (I will definitely go for the possession ending for pseudo-romance though.) My party is like Kanerah-Jaethal and rest I switch to keep my sanity. The gnome guy is somewhat tolerable, I suppose. I was pretty upset to discover Maegar and his wizard bro aren't going to become my companions. They are better characters then most of my team. Heck the barbarian Dugath is better than most of my team. But yeah overall pretty bad job on companions. I like the game though. It is a miracle to have this much considering the current year. kek. Hope it gets better in the sequel. From what i gathered based Regill will have a perma spot in my party. Hope the succ is not going to be a disappointment like Valerie was.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > I am glad she doesn't have one.
              She actually kinda does if you do her companion qeusts a certain way and end the game a certain way.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Valerie is like every subversion trope and feminist incompatibility with reality rolled into one, a testament to how unworkable all that bullshit is in the worst character ever to be in an RPG, full of self contradictory themes. You can't even make her a paladin again which she'd have halfway good stats for unless you want to wreck the theme (I think she's even hardcoded atheist IIRC so half the classes in the game are unavailable to her even with modding). She's a mid fighter with wrong stats unless you do the dumb intimidate build which she's not even built for properly either. She loses her goddamn girlboss duel without copious amounts of outside buffs, builds completely reworked off her theme, and dishonorable item use. I must admit I quit giving a fuck with her builds because even Linzi can tank better than she can and her obnoxious personality drags all my RP jollies down. You have to be pretty bad to make me prefer Linzi over you.

              I enjoy giving her a +4 crown of Prettiest Cake Baking Princess and making her sit in the castle to be my diplomacy slave in her personal hell of high society while the real party gets shit done:

              >Baron Rake/Archaeologist Front line hero
              >Amiri Invulnerable Rager Front line monster clubber with the typical 2h collection of every element and bane known to adventuring
              >Jub hyper bomber Alchemist
              >Ekun Bloodhunter Ranger heavy artillery w/front line Dog
              >Tristian Mystic Theurge Cleric/Empyreal Sorc Evoker specialist
              >Jaethal Warpriest AKA rear line warrior that heals herself and cleaves the shit out of ambush garbage coming for the squishies, and provides some unique buffs like bone fists for Dog and Amiri's beast totem attacks, frees Tristian up for more blasting too.

              OR we could all listen to "I am your shield" as we all wait for Valerie to get into position so we can hide behind a useless rock on the landscape and my rake spams fear on autoattack so she's useless for that intimidate build too.

              Idunno, they have quirks but I have no problem with the good NPCs. I kept the Slut as mage (orc stays at castle forever), the barb, Valerie (though I think I'll respec at inn to multiclass her into ranger to shieldbash, I don't like the tank/DPS specialization in games, it's dumb unrealistic crap). The the cleric blondie and the unded chick, but I kind of tolerate her from the other side - I don't like edge and she's evil but she's manageable.

              I don't mind suboptimal builds, it's fine to play with some constrains. (Paladin fulltime with intimidate featchain and 2H weapon MC).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              jubilost, nok nok and ekun are all bro tier

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                jubilost would have been bro tier for me if he didn't remind me of every obnoxious snarky cynical brits ever

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have been reading other slides as well. But dear lord Valerie is such an obnoxious character. For one thing the way she acts like "men are pigs, everyone wants to seggs me bohoo. I am so pretty woe to meeee." I assumed she was a virgin. Which is nice considering the average wrpg female companion is a whore. BUT WAIT. Of course there was some guy with a stupid name I can't even remember whom she shagged like an animal in heat. And this story pops just before you are about to have sex with her for the first time. Who in the actual fuck wrote this garbage? And to complete romance you have to keep saying the meme-tier shit like:
      >i am not like the other guys m'lady i am a true simp.
      And then i looked at the ending slides... So THE GOOD ENDING is, if you marry her she keeps "adventuring" and "finding herself" while you sit at your throne without an heir like a fucking cuckold as she keeps wasting her years. So inspiring truly. and wait the BAD ENDING: she "settles" with a farmer and bears two beautiful children. lives a happy life.

      THIS IS CONSIDERED A BAD ENDING. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA. OH GOD. I CAN'T. THIS CAN'T BE FUCKING REAL. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

      Did someone actually edit the fandom page? Not sure which is more hilarious the fact that she leaves you without an heir or the fact that whoever wrote his garbage thinks having a blissful family life is a worst thing imaginable for a woman.

      Fuck man. Okay i will have to drop my score from 7.5 to 6.5. You might say who the fuck cares about this and look you enjoy your build autism and i enjoy a sensible story. Which is almost impossible to find these days. Fucking hell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Valerie is like every subversion trope and feminist incompatibility with reality rolled into one, a testament to how unworkable all that bullshit is in the worst character ever to be in an RPG, full of self contradictory themes. You can't even make her a paladin again which she'd have halfway good stats for unless you want to wreck the theme (I think she's even hardcoded atheist IIRC so half the classes in the game are unavailable to her even with modding). She's a mid fighter with wrong stats unless you do the dumb intimidate build which she's not even built for properly either. She loses her goddamn girlboss duel without copious amounts of outside buffs, builds completely reworked off her theme, and dishonorable item use. I must admit I quit giving a fuck with her builds because even Linzi can tank better than she can and her obnoxious personality drags all my RP jollies down. You have to be pretty bad to make me prefer Linzi over you.

        I enjoy giving her a +4 crown of Prettiest Cake Baking Princess and making her sit in the castle to be my diplomacy slave in her personal hell of high society while the real party gets shit done:

        >Baron Rake/Archaeologist Front line hero
        >Amiri Invulnerable Rager Front line monster clubber with the typical 2h collection of every element and bane known to adventuring
        >Jub hyper bomber Alchemist
        >Ekun Bloodhunter Ranger heavy artillery w/front line Dog
        >Tristian Mystic Theurge Cleric/Empyreal Sorc Evoker specialist
        >Jaethal Warpriest AKA rear line warrior that heals herself and cleaves the shit out of ambush garbage coming for the squishies, and provides some unique buffs like bone fists for Dog and Amiri's beast totem attacks, frees Tristian up for more blasting too.

        OR we could all listen to "I am your shield" as we all wait for Valerie to get into position so we can hide behind a useless rock on the landscape and my rake spams fear on autoattack so she's useless for that intimidate build too.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should change the kingdom management so you cold only return once per month to do your king stuff.
    That makes the schizos less paranoid about not missing out on events at home and decreases the overall criticism of this aspect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could fix it by making it not a laggy piece of shit that requires 4 loading screens whenever you need to use it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just the limitation of PC.

        If it was PS5 optimised, it would work more seamlessly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not a schizo, I'm just efficient.
      >get kanerah asap so you're not behind an advisor for act 1
      >return home as soon as I see a flag appear so as to juggle advisors and not waste any days.
      >prioritize problem > rank up > opportunity > region expansion every chance you get
      >sink all excess magic items into BP, you really didn't need to be carrying around 30 copies of fireball scrolls when you don't even have a wizard now did you
      >start all the buildings asap with pre-planning to take advantage of stacking bonuses in order to snowball bonuses up fast, claim those map resources

      It's a fun system if you actually play it and your mighty kingdom is snowballing fast into a real power in the backdrop of your adventuring.
      The singular fatal flaw is the 14 day time lockdown to level up, mod that out and actually play the whole game with the rest of it normally.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >start all the buildings asap
        Isn't this a trap? I heard the buildings only give you 1 static bonus at creation, and nothing else over time.

        So it would be more useful to focus on the giga trade deal early, and save up for Region conquests.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          all the buildings asap
          >Isn't this a trap? I heard the buildings only give you 1 static bonus at creation, and nothing else over time.

          Most internet articles say that, but I look at things in terms of opportunity cost, and the opportunity of getting your ranks up and more advisors opened up the fastest means you miss out on less Opportunities and Events, not to mention there are buildings like Hospital and Stocks that directly give bonus to their rolls. Ranks up help their rolls as well. With these methods I'm able to quickly get to 100 percent rolls on my advisors with extra capacity available.

          By contrast the sort of "pay big BP up front to try to eke out BP bonus over the whole game" projects are garbage to me because you'll never turn a profit on that loan over the course of the whole game.

          People that always say go for the river spot because they can only count buildings and not look at opportunity cost also seem to be giving inferior advice too because the 9 grid start lets you stack a lot of good initial adjacency bonus.

          Relations and Espionage are some of the harder stats to raise, and you want Culture and Arcane fast to expand advisors and teleportation. Early advisors fast are critical so you have more overhead to build and train while events are coming at you.

          Try this 9 grid start, and try to lean into 9 grid starters (any start out in an open field with no river)

          Herbalist|Shrine|Monument
          Free |Longh|Smith
          Barracks|Tavern|Shop

          Where free space is your alignment building, like Stocks for LE. Build watchtower in the free slot, and mage tower when you get a double separate slot. Swap free space, shop, and smith for things like halfling brewery and all the artisan shops when you unlock their quests. Mansion if you need filler on doubles and always do your adjacency bonus like library next to printing press. This start gets you the most economy boost early and all the Relation and Arcane you can early as well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Regions
          Also I'm doing CG right now, so I don't have any Stocks (LE) or Bulletin Board (LG) to help with rolls (CG gets Dance Hall and Brothel which both suck) and most of my rolls are 90-100 percent with culture opened up and all 5 regions available in A2 claimed.

          Every village is founded, 6 advisors, capital is a town, one village is upgraded to level 2 buildings, and one village maybe is empty iirc. All resource points are claimed.

          I've completely cleared the map and it just started to snow, maybe I have 1 or 2 artisan deliveries left and the sweet teeth quest dragging on a return. Point being is there is enough treasure to buy all the region claims and build plenty of buildings if you clear everything and gear a party of six. I bought a suit of adamantine plate also for Jaethal and maybe a couple of other pieces of low-mid expense range gear.

          One final reason to get your rolls up ASAP is Triumphs which give you bonus stats for completing with high rolls. It will snowball that much harder in A3 now with such a strong A2 finish.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The singular fatal flaw is the 14 day time lockdown to level up, mod that out and actually play the whole game with the rest of it normally.
        this isn't so bad if you just prioritize the upgrade that makes it faster with foreknowledge of the game mechanics or even just never spend time upgrading generals and just use the ones who just gain XP and wear items to do their duties. You have a lot of time to do everything especially if you go in knowing that say, personally traveling to any resource points on the map is a waste of time.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing needs to be fixed with the management system, it's fine.
    You improve kingdom stats by buildings and events.
    Buildings have adjacency bonuses that need to be taken into consideration.
    Events are chance based but you have tools to improve your odds like advisor level and crisis points.
    Advisors level up with the kingdom stats.
    The inclusion of magic portals and crisis points already made the system easy to manage.
    Brainlets just need to move on to other games.
    I bet you also complained about puzzles in Nenio's dungeon and in inevitable excess in wotr.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      buildings have only one thing that needs to be taken into consideration, whether they offer teleportation or not

      all buildings that don't can be safely ignored

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have a company that's not shit make the game. Owlcat is absolute trash tier.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrapping it entirely wouldn't be so bad

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i found this in the bad fanart thread
    DO NOT OPEN

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I opened it.
      It sure is bad, but now I want to be that Tristian and enjoy quadsnu.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen worse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like how Tristian is the cutest girl though

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >absolutely crushing kingdom management
    >start skipping several days since everything is cleaned out post season of bloom
    >become vaguely aware i need to do varnhold dlc which i never bothered with before
    Do I actually spend time on making characters for this thing? Seems like a lot of overhead for a small dlc right in the middle of the main campaign.
    >premade males are: glaive wielding bard of Shelyn bard that looks ok except I already am a bard of Desna MC, and a paladin of Erastil...with a bow....on a class built to tank and melee smite...

    If I wanted to play a crappy ranger I could make better ones playing my worst ranger builds possible than a paladin of Erastil with a bow..wtf.
    I guess it's time to try to template a con based elemental aesetic/bloodrager type of thing for laffs. I want the fattest possible con boi, or maybe some kind of offbeat brawler for that pro wrestler merc feel.

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