Complete garbage that misses the point of arpgs and does a retarded deconstruction that only the cookie clicker generation could enjoy. Any real fan of arpgs coming up would be disgusted by it.
It's a fun distraction for a little bit.
I don't know how anyone can stand to actually sit down and seriously play it for hours at a time though.
It's peak mobile game DNA hiding inside a desktop release.
If we're going to be really serious.
Its a Mobile Tower Defense game.
You control the constant movement of the tower to pick up items to upgrade the strength of a tower, continue till you eventually die.
Unplayable dogshit mess that is actually finally starting to birth some good sequels and games that do the same thing but infinitely better, like pic related or the new Deep Rock Galactic one.
NTA but i can
the game is pretty good and better than v.survivors because you have to aim your abiliies and items
theres a lot of good stuff in the game, from many different classes with their own unique items and abilities to a retardedly huge skill tree and progression system
you even mine minerals around stages to craft better weapons for your characters
it's fun BUT right now it has a terrible cluttering problem
there are a retarded amount of DoT effects and they all pollute the screen
there are like 26 different status effects, and 8 of those are elemental damage types with their own gimmick
and near the late stages the game turns into a kiting and dodge-the-red-circles simulator
the stages are randomly generated and feature obstacles that can be used to avoid boss AOE and LOS attacks
you also have a dodge button that gives you iframes, but more than often is not even remotely enough to deal with the attack spam of 100 enemies all clustered in one spot
you can upgrade it but don't expect to dodge instakill boss enrage abilities
it's definitely one of the best survivors clones currently on steam, but as i said the red circle bullshit turns many away
there is a free demo on steam, otherwise the game is already cracked
recommended solely because you have to aim and use your mouse instead of just idling somewhere while dodging a literal bullet hell of oneshotting enemies like vampire survivors
Poorly balanced and easy to the point that it becomes not fun to play due to being able to fish for the ridiculously strong abilities with banish and rerolling, even when you play inverse, no eggs and upgrade cap turned on with the characters that aren't busted on purpose.
The early game progression and secret hunting is the fun part, the rest not so much. Maybe the update can recapture this a bit due to resetting your progression, but I doubt it.
>realization genre
I do wonder if any MMOfags played this and realized that the same high they got off of a 15 minute clear of a map was the same or greater then the one they spent months for a single item for. Shits not FFXI or OSRS goals anymore where you grind for something its all rng and this game does it better.
It gets so much hate, but I don't get it. Are people just mad because it's popular? I see people call it braindead, but they probably haven't played with hyper, curses, and inverse, etc.
Not saying it is particularly amazing or anything I was done after beating the final boss and then seeing an endless ran idle for 5 hours while I slept.
there is skill in much the same way that texas hold 'em does, but it doesn't really change that in both cases the core appeal is still the trance state that it tries to induce, how it makes time go pass by faster than normal, and how the logical endpoint of such design is the slot machines that currently occupy modern casinos, with rows of people hammering on a single button to keep the flow state going for as long as possible
they're mad because they're contrarians who hate normies and everything normies do/touch/enjoy
they complain about popular games being shallow goyslop when in reality they're just upset that the normies they dislike exist within their sacred gaming realm
i see some people call it "garlic like" and that is the single worst goddamn name you could ever hope to make
i hope whoever thought that up fucking dies
Vinny Vinesauce. It's because he's half a retard and just named the genre on the spot when he got the "garlic" item in Vampire Survivors. Garlic is also probably one of the more brain-dead items as well
i believe /agdg/ calls them either orblikes, or vs clones?
they're fucking incredible dopamine producers though
very addicting genre until you find a build that's OP and then play a few games with it
what is actually bad about any of the things you just described?
just because you personally dislike it, does not make it some objectively abhorrent abomination
it is a product that was not intended for consumers like you to enjoy, what's the fuss?
i absolutely hate valorant, but i don't shit on the game as if it's some unjustifiable catastrophy whenever my friends talk about it
some people spend $10,000 a month on gacha shit, and you're upset about a $3 dopamine button?
grow up brother
>press dopamine button
What is this even supposed to mean?
I don't understand how this is a criticism for a game. Isn't that the end goal for any game?
If you press a button and don't get any dopamine, why are you even playing it? Is this the new shitpost take? If you enjoy the game it's shit?
I get the gist, that you guys are calling it fake unearned dopamine or something, but it honestly seems like it's getting thrown out as a buzzword.
Shit
naggerS
came here to say this. alternatively, action skinner box.
kys
Forced dopamine.
slot machine
Trash
Arcade shooter
it never before occurred to me just how similar these games are to robotron.
reverse bullethell
Asteroids-like
based
>No bra
>No panties by the looks of it
>I'm supposed to lust over this nagger whore with, most probably, AIDS
Why are naggers like this?
Look at those amazing perky tits
Post more or source please
you just like her for her body
slut
Liking only hot people makes you less of a slut.
WHOS FUCKING BITCH THIS IS
check this video, i think it's her
walking simulator, really.
Survivor
slop for people of slop
I always call it "vampireslop" or "vampslop" (when I'm lazy) as it's the grand-daddy of them all.
Garliclike.
auto battler
self playing action
Complete garbage that misses the point of arpgs and does a retarded deconstruction that only the cookie clicker generation could enjoy. Any real fan of arpgs coming up would be disgusted by it.
Enjoy your dying genre.
halls of torment > diablo 2 and any diablo clone.
deal with it.
>Any REAL fan of slot machines coming up would be disgusted by it
Please.
It's a fun distraction for a little bit.
I don't know how anyone can stand to actually sit down and seriously play it for hours at a time though.
It's peak mobile game DNA hiding inside a desktop release.
Vampire Survivors-like.
The reality is this.
Pretty much every time I see someone describing a game in this "genre" they just call it "like vampire survivors."
It's Bullet Heaven. That's how people call it. Because it's the opposite of bullet hell.
propaganda by "people" who want it to be an actual respected genre
>How would you call this
Why is this phrasing becoming so prevalent?
I can only assume it’s an ESL thing.
incremental games
interactive idle game
If we're going to be really serious.
Its a Mobile Tower Defense game.
You control the constant movement of the tower to pick up items to upgrade the strength of a tower, continue till you eventually die.
twin shooters
Standard 'modern roguelike' AKA RNG Progression Game, like binding of Isaac, Hades, etc, not a Roguelike but falsely advertised as such
Unplayable dogshit mess that is actually finally starting to birth some good sequels and games that do the same thing but infinitely better, like pic related or the new Deep Rock Galactic one.
this one is actually fun but i refunded it because wave 50 and above is a shitshow
Interesting, would you have any other reco ? I liked the deep rock core demo
NTA but i can
the game is pretty good and better than v.survivors because you have to aim your abiliies and items
theres a lot of good stuff in the game, from many different classes with their own unique items and abilities to a retardedly huge skill tree and progression system
you even mine minerals around stages to craft better weapons for your characters
it's fun BUT right now it has a terrible cluttering problem
there are a retarded amount of DoT effects and they all pollute the screen
there are like 26 different status effects, and 8 of those are elemental damage types with their own gimmick
and near the late stages the game turns into a kiting and dodge-the-red-circles simulator
the stages are randomly generated and feature obstacles that can be used to avoid boss AOE and LOS attacks
you also have a dodge button that gives you iframes, but more than often is not even remotely enough to deal with the attack spam of 100 enemies all clustered in one spot
you can upgrade it but don't expect to dodge instakill boss enrage abilities
it's definitely one of the best survivors clones currently on steam, but as i said the red circle bullshit turns many away
there is a free demo on steam, otherwise the game is already cracked
recommended solely because you have to aim and use your mouse instead of just idling somewhere while dodging a literal bullet hell of oneshotting enemies like vampire survivors
wrong
phones would melt with a game like this
Thanks, I'll check the usual websites
There are many, from chink shit like Greedland to Diabloe-like clones like Halls of Torment.
Brotato is probably the best one.
What you posted is mobile garbage for children.
I've heard "Bullet Heaven" which I can dig.
How to kill 30 minute of your life
2D indy roguelike topdown bullethell arcade shooter rpg sim
Crimsonlandlike
fotmslop
>2 years ago
>fotm
brainrot everyone
Bullet Heaven
vampire survivor-like
Poorly balanced and easy to the point that it becomes not fun to play due to being able to fish for the ridiculously strong abilities with banish and rerolling, even when you play inverse, no eggs and upgrade cap turned on with the characters that aren't busted on purpose.
The early game progression and secret hunting is the fun part, the rest not so much. Maybe the update can recapture this a bit due to resetting your progression, but I doubt it.
i agree
as degen as gambling is, the game lost all interest when i basically figured out how to ensure a 100% win rate
slot machines in disguise
People who parrot this shit have clearly never played the game.
Does anyone have a link to that one game dev that was seething that VS was popular and his wasn't?
>realization genre
I do wonder if any MMOfags played this and realized that the same high they got off of a 15 minute clear of a map was the same or greater then the one they spent months for a single item for. Shits not FFXI or OSRS goals anymore where you grind for something its all rng and this game does it better.
Robotronlike
dude there's a 'bullet heaven' fest on steam right now
It gets so much hate, but I don't get it. Are people just mad because it's popular? I see people call it braindead, but they probably haven't played with hyper, curses, and inverse, etc.
Not saying it is particularly amazing or anything I was done after beating the final boss and then seeing an endless ran idle for 5 hours while I slept.
there is skill in much the same way that texas hold 'em does, but it doesn't really change that in both cases the core appeal is still the trance state that it tries to induce, how it makes time go pass by faster than normal, and how the logical endpoint of such design is the slot machines that currently occupy modern casinos, with rows of people hammering on a single button to keep the flow state going for as long as possible
they're mad because they're contrarians who hate normies and everything normies do/touch/enjoy
they complain about popular games being shallow goyslop when in reality they're just upset that the normies they dislike exist within their sacred gaming realm
2D Walking Simulator
The genre already has a name. Reverse bullet hell. It literally existed before this.
Reserve bullet hell
It was coined in 2019. Before any of the games that will be linked here were even made.
Survival roguelight
ludographic post-touhouslop
Flash game shovelware
Arena Shmup.
whichever name pisses off bullet hell players the most
It's this one
t.shmup player
duly noted, i'll start using these from now on
thank you anons
i miss actual arena shmups
call them bullet hell roguelikes, that way you can piss of fans of 2 genres
people getting pissed about that just proves those genres are for autistic kids
smash tv with scrolling
BULLET HEAVEN
VS_LIKE
Survivors-like since it started the genre
Screensaver
i see some people call it "garlic like" and that is the single worst goddamn name you could ever hope to make
i hope whoever thought that up fucking dies
Vinny Vinesauce. It's because he's half a retard and just named the genre on the spot when he got the "garlic" item in Vampire Survivors. Garlic is also probably one of the more brain-dead items as well
>Not winning games by just standing still.
Never gonna make it.
boot scoot boogie
weird how butt blasted this game makes people. it's like 3 bucks dude. come on.
miserable contrarians seething at people enjoying things they dislike
it’s holocure troons mad they’re missing out on potential grooming
i believe /agdg/ calls them either orblikes, or vs clones?
they're fucking incredible dopamine producers though
very addicting genre until you find a build that's OP and then play a few games with it
Timed Swarm Survival
Reverse bullethell
It’s very simple, cheap fun
Why is anyone upset by this? It seems like the fad came and went, VS is the only game that stood the test of time
imho brotato and holocure are better
holocure is fucking gay and brotato isnt even the same kind of game.
halls of torment is the only one that holds a candle to VS.
>dopamine button asset flip that imitates a mobile game,cover art is tracing of bayoneta 2
fuck off
i can hear your smoke alarm beeping nagger
what is actually bad about any of the things you just described?
just because you personally dislike it, does not make it some objectively abhorrent abomination
it is a product that was not intended for consumers like you to enjoy, what's the fuss?
i absolutely hate valorant, but i don't shit on the game as if it's some unjustifiable catastrophy whenever my friends talk about it
some people spend $10,000 a month on gacha shit, and you're upset about a $3 dopamine button?
grow up brother
You sound mad
Why?
cookie clicker core
Dodge 'em up
Bullet heaven.
horde survival
>press dopamine button
What is this even supposed to mean?
I don't understand how this is a criticism for a game. Isn't that the end goal for any game?
If you press a button and don't get any dopamine, why are you even playing it? Is this the new shitpost take? If you enjoy the game it's shit?
I get the gist, that you guys are calling it fake unearned dopamine or something, but it honestly seems like it's getting thrown out as a buzzword.
bullet hell, as every other game that is exactly the same, its like, shits like this being a p2e or a scam lol.