hurr durr muh hope
hurr durr muh hope
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go back to dead, Junko
For me, it's 2-5
For me? It's 3-2.
Hello, good taste department?
I wouldn't say it's the best but V3-2 is criminally underrated.
>despair cucks still seething
hope will never lose to despair!
>hope will never lose to despair!
say that again in 30 years when the planet is no longer capable of sustaining life.
>muh climate change
HOPE
WILL
NEVER
LOSE
TO
DESPAIR
You will die in the Water Wars, and your children will starve.
He didn't say despair, he said "this bear"
Finally played through the entire trilogy last year, and I'm not exaggerating when I say Makoto's the worst protagonist ever made.
>He proclaims in the same series that has fucking Hajime Hinata
I don't know how they could make a protag even more retarded than Makoto, like at least him being a gullible nitwit was characteristic. Hajime is even dumber and yet he's paraded like he should be treated as smarter somehow
Hajime at least demonstrated some form of competence occasionally.
Makoto's literally dumber than Hiro half the time.
I dunno, but I also wont fight you too hard to try and prove otherwise as they're both very bad. But from the way I see it
>Makoto finds irrefutable evidence that something weird is going on given the old photos; he and other classmates are so dumb they forget about it because they can't come up with anything
>Makoto finds irrefutable evidence that Sakura has been working with the mastermind to some extent, and Kyoko knows something is up; he denies her the information out of fear that he may be spreading lies without proof (or something like that, it's been a long time since I played)
versus
>Hajime finds irrefutable evidence that something weird is going on with the computer terminal on the second island which literally loredumps fucking everything on you in a gigantic, illegible wall of text; he makes no effort to digest it and just acts like it's all bad fanfiction
>Hajime finds irrefutable evidence of Chiaki being the traitor with the Monomi diary; makes no effort to digest it whatsoever and just tries to ignore it so it can help setup the next case for an "emotional" moment
I can understand why you'd disagree, but I'll take someone who's a dumbass but is at least trying before this delusional fag. Then again I'd take three Shuichi clones before either of them even if he wasn't spectacular
This series went off the rails with 2 and UDG.
The world building in the first one was Kino.
We should've just gotten Distrust instead
Yeah, blah blah blah, whatever, it's your sister single?
No that's wrong
Chiaki is my hope.
Unironically the most grossly overrated series I have ever played.
You should play more games.
True, but honestly name one game that is worse with a bigger, obsessive fan base.
sonic is the obvious answer
unterdale too i suppose
Persona
Sonic
Most nintendo games
Undertale
Fnaf
etc.
DR isn't bottom of the barrel.
Undertale/Deltarune
>1-3 for me
Opinion discarded.
Again, filtered. Cope and seethe.
>filtered
Lame excuse for your lack of arguments. 1-3 is trash, Celeste is a shitty character and your tastes are putrid.
3-5 chads [email protected]
for me, it's 3-6, but 3-5 is respectable pick nonetheless.
Kyoko is the only reason I care about that series.
>World building? You mean the lack thereof, correct? Part of why THH works so well is the ambiguity of its setting.
I've been saying this for fucking years and nobody listens to me. I think most people don't even think of it as ambiguous because 2 got localized very quickly after 1, so they either (shallowly) thought of it as sequel bait or didn't even think about it at all and just jumped over to 2 without really contemplating the themes and storytelling of 1.
Also there's simply no way to make the premise of Danganronpa work, so only lightly touching on it compared to the rest of the series and focusing on the actual meat of the story is an advantage exclusive to DR1.
You are right that, at least in the original trilogy universe, it's an advantage unique to 1, but I don't think it wasn't until UDG that the world became too defined for it's own good. While, by it's very nature, DR2 has to reveal that the world was in some kind of peril or disarray, I think it does a good job of not showing too much. It keeps things fairly vague for itself and even has an open-ended ending itself, as we never get to see what's beyond the island and what the fate of the remaining 10 ultimates are. Other than almost everything from when giantess Junko shows up to near the end of the trial, I actually like the ending of 2 a fair bit.
DR2 has the problem of showing it's hand way too soon and not having any good plot twists or plot developments for the main plot.
You find out that it's a simulation really with the intro, and after that there's barely any interesting story developments until 2-5
Well the idea of the world being ended by an evil woman could be made into a working concept.
Perhaps Junko ended the world by getting the principal, the former ultimate biochemist, to bioengineer a bioweapon after she seduced him.
And then you have a world you could do something with.
I think that just making her a secret charismatic leader of some sort of nihilistic anarchist terrorist group is enough and you don't really need to go into more detail than that.
I have seen people guess that it's a simulation from the prologue when Usami does some magic trick with a cow or something, but they super autistically analyzed every detail of the game so I don't think that's very common. I think to most people that twist doesn't become obvious until much later. As for the interesting story developments, DR2 is a lot more character focused in that regard. Things like Fuyuhiko's redemption arc and both of Nagito's heel turns in 2-1 and 2-4 come to mind. As for the overarching mystery plot developments, it's been too long since I've played it so I don't really remember much in that regard. It wouldn't be fair for me to judge it but the sheer fact that I can't remember much of it means it's probably not as well done as 1. But again, 2 does more character focused stuff than 1 so I can't really complain.
I'm not like a big DR2 fanboy. It's my least favorite of the main games, but it definitely gets a lot right. It's highs are high but it's lows are probably the lowest imo.
I haven't played DR2 in years, but from what I remember the overarching plot was told from various plot dump moments which don't really effect the proceeding case nor the characters. They are just there because the outside world plot point needs to be explained eventually and they didn't want to drop literally all of it at the ending
I have a fantasy of Tsumugi forcing me to eat her anus after I tell her how awful her killing game was.