I actually lost to a trainer for the first time in like 7 years in a Pokemon campaign.

I actually lost to a trainer for the first time in like 7 years in a Pokemon campaign. They finally did it and made a challenging Pokemon game again.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Geodude used mud slap!

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You dumb fuckers said this about Volo too so I highly doubt it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Volo was genuinely challenging. Cope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Calling him genuinely challenging is the cope. The game literally gave you an alpha Zoroark to eat his ass with ten minutes earlier.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >uses OP mon
          >WAHHHHHHHHHH THE GAME IS TOO EASY
          Cope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the mon with no ability after turn 1 is OP
            I understand now. Thanks for enlightening me Vol-bros

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >ability
              >PLA

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck me for thinking in SV terms, you're right I'm gay. It's still far from the best PLA mon though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you are suppose to deliberately handicap your dumbass?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what handicapping means you retard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well yes. That's why nuzlockes are so popular. It's a game that albeit its depth in the competitive scene, is made with kids as its primary audience. Using everything to your full advantage would also mean using legendaries, or battle items, or healing items, or switch mode etc etc that pretty much make everything a cakewalk as long as you come from a civilization with some frontal lobe development, can't be sure in this board.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >switch mode
                You're stuck in that now

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dont like it but you can consciously still choose to not use it. Not like it forces you to switch. If that was the biggest problem, we'd have an amazing game..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If you know ahead of time what the fight is going to be then you can prepare

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >she had to reset against cynthia 200 times to win

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We're talking about Volo. Get a grip retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry you also had to reset 200 times in PLA despite being 30 years older than the target audience

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How fucking childish can you be?
                People got caught off guard and got wiped by Volo's Giratina 1 or 2 times and have to rethink their strategy once they know what's going on in the fight. Then the fight is challenging for those who didn't already know what's coming.
                Actually give an argument next time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wow bro you have to attempt the fight a second time this is SO hard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're pokemon fans they think that getting caught off guard by one fight is peak difficulty.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same for people saying ultra nekrozma is difficult, just use zoroark bro, so easy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh zoroark
          Autists who win by exploiting dumb ass AI and feel smart are pathetic. Imagine trying so hard ingame instead of using your favourite mons/a cool team composition. Probably Volo is easy as shit if you have a decent team but you midwits with your reddit strats are very childish

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fuck does Hisuian Zoroark have to do with AI? Illusion's not in PLA.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Makes sense considering you only get it late game and there's only like 10 battles in the game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait people actually struggled against Volo? It's not a meme? H-how?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Except for him kind of being Cynthia but stronger, isn't it also because he is a powerspike compared to the rest of the game? Seen some playthroughs where they lost to Volo a few times, then they changed and strengthened their team and won.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's because he has a 6 part team and then 2 giratinas back to back

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Calling him genuinely challenging is the cope. The game literally gave you an alpha Zoroark to eat his ass with ten minutes earlier.

        >uses OP mon
        >WAHHHHHHHHHH THE GAME IS TOO EASY
        Cope.

        Vyglass is even more challenging. Arrest.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't lose in PLA if I recall correctly. This is legitimately the first time I actually remembering losing to a trainer in a Pokemon story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Volo was hard if you didn't spam the grit and have a balanced team. The rest of the game was so easy that I had like 3 ghosts and all my mons were undertrained so it was hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Volo had 8 Pokemon spread across 3 consecutive battles with high tier "champion" levels and managed to improve Cynthia's shitheel team by pathing up some of her glaring weakness overlap. It's objectively the hardest story boss in Pokemon by the mere notion of having 2 Giratina, resetting your stat changes twice, and forcing you into your first position Pokemon twice.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Giratina is a massive shitmon so it doesn’t even matter.
        The only hard part about the battle is that your play on set mode so when you KO something Volo sends a counter out and you go 1 for 1 quite easily

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because battles werent much of a focus in PLA, I constantly made up new teams of things I just caught in new areas so I was slightly underleveled but didnt have much of a problem...until I realized how poorly designed the set style of PLA is and how having a team of 8 is bullshit, especially when the system revolves around revenge killing whenever something tags out. The only way to win was to be over leveled or sit on a stall and spam some revives for your party to make up for the 6vs8 shit show

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or just use Ursaluna and solo the entire boss fight with 4 moves while 10 levels down. That's what most people did after they realized what they were up against.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Funny enough, i had an ursaluna on the team as the wall of my team. When Volo only had 1 mon left(before his 2 garatinas) I sat on ursaluna tanking and fully restored my team. Usually I'm against item spamming/using items in battle in general but that battery pissed me off and I wasn't going to grind to beat it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Headlong Rush, Giga Impact, Play Rough, Ice Punch. You can now OHKO nearly every single Pokemon in that entire fight while underleveled. You're expected to lose the first time, not sweeping him in the rematch is just sad.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Belly drum, burn orb + guts and drain punch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Items and Abilities aren't in PLA

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I killed volo with lvl 65 chatot moatly spamming snarl
          Git gut

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, no. PLA is anti-sweeping and has no priority and pretty much ignored speed whenever something else is set, it even disregards it's own "strong and fast" style mechanics I had a fast swords dancer ready to sweep volo and it got revenge killed after a couple switches

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's more you not knowing how priority turn order works, anon. You can sweep his entire team before he ever gets a move if you're using Styles properly.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thats why I abused snarl and quick roost

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People who don't know what's coming have a harder time because they can't prepare.
      Maybe you're that good at Pokemon, but if you already know that Volo's gonna throw a curveball and play around that then you can't say that the fight is easy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I understand your pain man. I think people that actually had a problem with his fight just speedran the game instead of completing every side quest and exploring everywhere first. My alpha Garchomp blasted through his entire fight on its own.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >challenging
    The levels are all over the place. If you take a wrong route you'll get fucked. Awful game design.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the recommended route to take for a decently challenging playthrough?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep your levels down.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol, wut

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The exploration progression definitely is not a natural one. I went in blind and did 1>5>9, I wouldve done 11 next but realized that my party is in average lv20s but everything around 11 is level 50.

            I think the game wants the player to occasionally return to the school base before going further but it doesnt tell you that at all

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I assumed that too but I never went back to the school and I just beat the 8th gym. I just flew to the nearest PokeCenter near my next target.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks anon. I was hoping someone would post this so I wouldn't accidentally skip the low level battles and have to come back to them later.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Looking at the map it looks like it would be really easy to accidentally run into the Psychic gym leader near the start of the game. Eri of Team Star also seems really easy to accidentally bump into if you go right and then try to make your way up the map.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'll very quickly realize you're in the wrong neighborhood because of the ambient Pokemon levels.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I try to keep a balance of wild pokemon battles to gain some exp but it's really easy to walk a few steps into a new zone without realizing that everything is now 30 levels higher. Fortunately it's easy enough to deal with if it's just a wild pokemon that you can run away from but sometimes, you're stuck in a trainer battle while under leveled and force to either back out or soft reset. Some of the titan battles are also more challenging than the area that they take place in. For example the desert titan donphan needs you to at least have something that's in the 30s but it's in an area where everything is level 10-18

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With trainer placements, if you managed to walk up to one without seeing ambient Pokemon levels on the way that's kind of just on you. And the Titans aren't particularly overleveled for their specific areas either, Great Tusk/Iron Treads is in a zone that's adjacent to a bunch of lower level stuff but in the zone it's actually in everything's much higher level than that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Open world design" at its finest.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ???

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >open world design at its finest
            >posts an example that removes the open world element from the game
            ???
            If it's open world, then there is hardly any "order" to begin with. BOTW did the same shit with the divine beasts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If you take a wrong route you'll get fucked. Awful game design.
      thats funny, this is one of the things that makes the dark souls series great LOL

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dark Souls is an action RPG, it's skill based and the entire game can be beaten at level 1 with enough skill, turning it into a balance of challenge and reward as opposed to you literally don't have enough stats to win like Pokemon. Furthermore, the action gameplay means that even lower leveled enemies can pose a challenge, unlike in a turn based RPG like Pokemon where an opponent as little as 8 levels below you gets one shot by your A press.
        You really are a dumb motherfucker.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can beat every pokemon game at level 1. Also
          >bitching about difficulty when you're going to spam STAB moves to one shot gym leaders whether you're 5 levels below or 20 levels above

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >exploits exist so there's rare circumstances where a level 1 can beat almost anything, therefore the game is balanced

            Are you serious?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't because you'll gain levels.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You can beat every pokemon game at level 1
            It's possible if you do F.E.A.R strategy. But they usually gatekeep you from focus sash or you don't have the right pokemon to do it in that region.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay. The Witcher 3 then.
          The Witcher sells like a open world game but has the exact same problem as SV but somehow here is not a fault.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, I haven't played through Witcher 3 but doesn't it have a quest list? The way points don't put you in endgame territory from the beginning do they?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's plenty foreshadowing. If wild mons are 20 levels above you turn back or buy revives.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the “pokemon games have gotten easier” thing is a complete meme, I’ve gotten closer to losing trainer battles in every single gen 6+ game (yes even in XY and ORAS due to sky and inverse battles) than I have in any of the DS or GBA games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek i remember being challenged to a sky battle (such a dumb concept) and rolling my eyes, ready to press A and beat another fletchinder or some normal/flying shitmon… then the fucker sends out emolga lmao

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the level design is completely everywhere
    I walked into the cave under the psychic gym with level 15 pokemon outside not even that far away and suddenly it spikes up to level 40
    then when I leave through another exit there are level 10s on the way back (????)

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just lost to this one today too. That starmobile would be decently strong solo, after 3 other poison types it's crazy.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People always repeats this rhetoric of "pokemon is too easy" until they're caught lacking. The games have been getting more and more difficult for years, especially with AI prioritizing moves better and gamefreak giving more type coverage. Good luck to those that play Scarlet.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This was a legitimate difficulty spike for me too. You fight 3 pretty bulky poison types and then you fight the starmobile and it doesn't take any damage even from ground moves.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When did you fight him? Star bosses aren't scaled by your progress

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Immediately after the water gym who I did with mostly level 29/30s. He just has a really bulky team so being underleveled is pretty bad. Do you happen to know what level the fighting base one is? Because Nurse Joy is telling me to go there next which seems kinda crazy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nurse Joy must be high on crack because the fighting one is the one you're supposed to fight last.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My highest level Pokemon is 31 so I'm going to ignore this bitch then.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fighting-type leader's pokemon range from lv 55 to 56.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you happen to know the levels for the salaryman gym leader?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lv. 35-36.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that has to be bugged shes sending you to the hardest non elite four trainer in the game

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fighting-type leader's pokemon range from lv 55 to 56.

              My highest level Pokemon is 31 so I'm going to ignore this bitch then.

              the nurses just send you to the nearest boss, not the next one by level

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought that Koku was the 2nd gym leader and I had fuecoco as my fire starter so I lost to him once. Little did I know he was the 4th gym and I has missed 25% of the game's content because for some reason they want you to fly around the continent in a random order

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gamefreak market the game that there is no set path you need to take for the game
    >Go face Grusha for your first gym leader
    >All his pokemon are late lv. 40s regardless of your progress
    Sasuga Masuda

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They outright said if you wanted to challenge yourself you can head straight to the harder bosses early and try to take them on. Yet people are surprised there's no scaling.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pokemon isn't like other games where you can make up for deficits with skill

        if the gym leader is even 10 levels higher, they'll like just one shot your whole team, you can't "challenge yourself" by going to the hardest gym leaders first, it's just straight up impossible

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >where you can make up for deficits with skill
          you absolutely can make up for deficits with skill. You're just bad at the game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            to an extent obviously, but no amount of skill is going to make up for the gym leader being 10 levels higher than you, outspeeding, and one-shotting your whole team

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's literally how kids were expected to deal with Cynthia's Garchomp being over 10 levels over the curve. Come on now.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              they won't one shot you if you use this cool mechanic the game has where if your pokemon is a certain type it will take less damage against other types.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't one shot you
                >you do no damage back because you're way under their level
                >they hit you again and you die

                damn they two shot you, what a difference

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>you do no damage back because you're way under their level
                damn...if only there was a way for a lower leveled pokemon to do more damage....like maybe some kind of move that temporarily increases their stats....

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gym leader used attack!
                >you used buff!
                >gym leader used attack again!
                >you fainted!

                Are you stupid

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not that anon(or as obtuse), but I got through the one gym where I was underleveled by 10 by spamming potions and attack buffs(while walling the gym leaders weaker mons) so I could sweep the team...but exploiting that way didnt feel fun at all and this strategy wouldnt have worked if i was 20 levels under

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gym leader used attack!
                >you used buff!
                >gym leader used attack again!
                >you survived due to buff!
                >you used potion!
                >you used buff again!
                are you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man, if only there were a way to heal damage you take. Shame there's nothing like that huh? Ha, what a world that would be. Healing. Lol. Lmao even.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gym leader used attack!
                >you used buff!
                >gym leader used attack again!
                >you survived due to buff!
                >you used potion!
                >you used buff again!
                are you?

                I always self-ban items in battle.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tbh, if it's 10-15 levels over, one could manage but it'll either require you to have a team that's a high enough level to have a decent movepool to circumvent the difference, or the use of some cheese strategies like taking advantage of the braindead AI by spamming status de/buffs.

                I don't understand why some want to die on this hill defending this series as some kind of high strategic ceiling when it has always been children's first RPG game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              funnily enough the school lesson stuff even joke about the level 5 aron stuff

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bro your ass retarded. I've 10-20 levels under for almost every E4 in the past 3-4 gens.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"challenge myself" by going to hard gym first
        >win, get ten levels worth of xp
        >50% of the rest of the content in the game instantly becomes babby piss-tier easy because now im overlevelled
        yet people will defend this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The alternative is....what, exactly? Not letting you pick your gyms so that you can do them in any levelled order you want? Scaling them means you didn't have that initial hurdle in the first place so that's not an argument. Are you bitching just to bitch? Because it seems like you aren't being genuine here.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Scaling them means you didn't have that initial hurdle in the first place so that's not an argument.
            What the fucking fuck do you mean? It's obviously an argument for the importance of scaling in a "you choose :)" type setup you fucking dingus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is what I accident did. I went in a ranfo direction and challenged the first gym I bumped into. Was disappointed that they didnt scale but somehow beat it and now I'm so over leveled that I had to box the party and start look up the recommended order of gyms online because the in-game recommendations are bullshit. I'm curious how most actual children will play around with this freedom and less hand holding than previous gens

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is unironically the easiest pokemon game ever made by a ridiculous margin, you should be embarrassed

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Open world really fits the Pokemon formula t.bh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. pokemon works much better when there are npcs constantly blocking me and telling me where to go so I can just mindlessly mash A to progress like unova

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they aren't going to bother level scaling the game then there is no point in making it open world. They could've spent their time fleshing out routes and making the game run better

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just because you're bad at pokemon and can't take advantage of the open world doesn't mean everyone else is.

          >They could've spent their time fleshing out routes
          i.e. "turn them into hallways with shitty npcs standing on the side just like my heckin unova"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No it throws off the pacing of the game. That's why people shit and piss themselves over HGSS

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >That's why people shit and piss themselves over HGSS
              people give gen 2 shit because it has awful level scaling, and people unironically want that in SV

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't have any level scaling at all

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you retarded or just not following along

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you are. There is no level scaling in HG/SS and people shit themselves over it because. It's the biggest complaint people have on the game

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People complain about HGSS because the entire region plays out between 10-40 and it's boring as fuck. There are no jumps in levels, it's designed to match your level progress through the region. That's what people are asking for with scaling in SV.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not level scaling, and therefore it's not at all what people want in SV.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like any open world you farm Chansey/Blissey in the best location and be overleveled for the rest of the game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I did here. I was underleveled because I went off course and challenge some harder gyms first. I used the auto battle mechanic to farm exp with random shit and with that plus the party exp share(thats a default to the games now) I was over leveled for most of the game, barring the couple late game areas that has things that are in the lv50s.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite criticism is that gym leaders should have different teams to scale to your party/progress, but if you suggest the player use a different team if they're overleveled they flip the fuck out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I did. I had to box my initial team and shuffle through them, I even made up new teams of random new gen shitmons just to test them out but at the end of the day, it feels like I'm doing the extra work for something that devs shouldve done. Like those extreme self imposed challenges to make up for how easy the games are but somehow worse this time because having am open world that's full of "DPS checks" is a terrible design flaw

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You started good then ended up whining like every person I mentioned.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you stupid? It's not the responsibility of the player to balance the game and constantly micromanage around the broken "level curve" (or lack thereof) in the game. It's up to the devs to make an enjoyable experience that flows from beginning to end, you're paying $60 for that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make game for 25 years
        >players cry that game is "too easy" and never gets difficult
        >make game open world with choice to play like normal or challenge yourself
        >autists lose their mind because they hate choice and refuse to use their imagination in the sandbox
        poor billy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >make game open world with choice to play like normal or challenge yourself
          It's not a choice if the game doesn't make it clear what the fuck you're supposed to do to get a proper curve. Also even that argument doesn't work, because if you go straight to a harder gym at the beginning to "challenge yourself" you'll end up overleveling yourself and make the rest of the game piss easy, meaning you only "challenged yourself" at the beginning of the game and now everything that follows is even easier than before.
          Use your fucking head please, this is indefensible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Gym leaders should have different teams to scale to your party/progress
      > They just need to make a different shitmon team and speedrun this game in under an hour

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it’s remarkable how tragically dumb these people are. Like the game is explicitly designed to encourage training a wide variety of Pokemon. It’s simply much more fun to do this, too. That you can win easily by just training one Pokemon just shows that winning isn’t the intended goal. The intended goal is to enjoy oneself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is that gym leaders having multiple different teams is canon to the entire series as proven by the fact that they have full teams of high level pokemon after you beat the elite 4, so them having teams that scale to your amount of badges would be a neat throwback to that point. Needing to abandon your starter constantly, i.e. the one dude who's supposed to be with you for your entire journey just for the sake of going full N and only using things you find around a gym is a silly way to try fixing GameFreak's lack of ability to explore their own potential.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the game isnt easy, every time you become overlevelled just start all over again with grinding
      you dont have to do this, masuda doesnt post here you know

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gym leader uses telegraphed type mons then Teravolts last mon which has no business being grass type

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >loses once in an entire game
    >guys the game is challenging now!!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lose zero times in the older games
      >bros the older games were harder trust me!!!

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >games/cartoons throughout the years imply and straight out say that gym leaders scale themselves by the level of their challenger/how many badges they have
    >finally make an open world gen where you can challenge gyms in any order
    >get wiped out by mons that are 40 levels higher than you

    I guess they had to make a decision because even if gym leaders would scale, the team rocket(equivalent) and other story progression would still be high leveled. As for wild pokemon, they can just do what every other open world rpg does with elite monsters, have high level monsters in lower level areas and trust players to use their common sense not to challenge it until they're ready, even PLA had this with alpha pokemon

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're just bad at a game for kids dude. Did you EV train your pokemon correctly

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm also calling bullshit on the over-leveling, I've done 4 badges, 3 titans, 2 team star bases, and I'm looking to be about 4-6 levels under the poison guy now.
    That's not to say I think the game is hard, afterall, I am scraping by despite being underleveled, but its definitely harder than SWSH or XY.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of pokemon battling pros here. Let's see if you can help with this one. I wandered onto the road to the pokemon league, and there was this pokemon taxi driver guy with a Lv.56 Krookodile. I had 5 pokemon under Lv.10 and the Grass starter at Lv 12.

    So, how would you guys have beaten him? Don't say you would EV trained or magically had a Shedinja or setup sweeper on your team xD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I were an obtuse pokeshill, I'd tell you that with enough skill, you can beat anything in game, no matter the level gap but honestly, the only answer is to just avoid the late game areas.

      I accidentally challenged an npc that had a single lv50 mon when my party was only around 20 and under, I had to poison stall it death and even that was just luck

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about making a path easy to follow, but also easy to ignore? Road signs around telling you where to go, but if you wanna zip off to the opposite end of the map for a challenge or to beeline to rare Pokémon, you're free to do so? I think that's the best solution.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like you're just incompetent.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I the only one who thought the exploration and level scaling was fine? It seems like if you pick a direction and go in it you can keep going for a while until you reach something too strong then you can either bash your head against it until you beat it, your team might be strong vs that type, or you can try doing the star base or one of those big pokemon then follow that path until they get too strong and continue rotating.

    I also think no level scaling was better than scaling. In the open world romhacks like crystal clear the scaling makes you think about your full team and what they are weak to and what they are strong against so you try to optimise the order you do them in.
    Without level scaling you dont have to worry about having a team weak to dark and accidentally leaving the dark gym till last. If you have a team weak to a gym you can continue exploring and either get stronger or maybe find a fighting type you like and try it again. Would be nice as an option for future playthroughs but I think its fine for a first playthrough.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trainers I lost to this Gen:

    >Mela
    >Iono
    >Larry (Gym)

    Not bad. Rest of the game was still a cakewalk though.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This game can feel challenging in the early levels if you choose the mid gyms first which can require some grinding but you just end up being in a weird spot where you're too over leveled for the actual starter gyms and too underleveled for the late game gyms. Players on this board probably wont mind this but in wonder what the general opinion about the open world design and the lack of scaling will be like.

    Tbh, I see a lot of actual kids struggling to get around the story mode because itll hold their hands less and the "help I'm lost" suggestion is completely useless because it'll only recommend you to challenge things that are 20 levels over you

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just constantly rotate your pokemon if you want a smidgen of challenge

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The final boss slaughtered my team without mercy. I was stunned.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe I'm less critical because I didn't pay money for it but I'm having fun

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do I make eggs?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      picnic tiem

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How tf did you get shiny Hisuian Zorua?

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have the mental capability of a 5yo.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is maboschiff any good?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I really like it. 120 attack, good set of abilities (strongest stakeout user though that's more of a singles thing), decent movepool.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about difficulty. Is pkhex already compatible with SV? so I can skip the useless grinding.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lost to casseopia because i didn't have anything effective against fire her last mon wiped my team kek

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I notice they throw a LOT of dual-types at you in the gyms which really throws off any strats I thought I had

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Streaming scarlet if anyone wants to watch https://pomf.tv/stream/Kannalo

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i feel the star bosses in general are the hardest content in the game and it's retarded you can't rematch them

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I died for the first time 75% into a game
    >it's challenging!!!

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >players asks for years for a non-linear pokemon game
    >gf delivers it
    >shit I can actually be overleveled/underleveled
    >GUYS WHATS THE BEST ROUTE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is the route I took
      the early/mid game was fun because trainers/gyms were consistently 5+ levels above me and I thought that the game had scaling since i was consistent
      Then I went east and suddenly everything was level 13 vs my level 38-40 pokemon

      Also linearity is completely fine, linear paths with absolutely no exploration, optional content or reason to return is bad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wrong picture

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nonlinear
      >the content is clearly intended to be linear
      what did he mean by this?

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >7 years
    >tfw this goes to around XY, maybe SM
    y-yeah pokemon was so difficult then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're talking to people who played XY when they were 6 years old.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP here and I'm surprised this thread is still alive lol. I just said a random number, XY being 7 years ago actually makes me want to kill myself because that feels like 4 years ago to me.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When the Team Star boss brought out a motherfucking hot rod car as their Pokemon I started audably laughing my ass off. That shit was great for all the right reasons. I'm glad they stopped taking the villain teams seriously.

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