i am sick and tired of skill based matchmaking, why can't just get put in with randoms like we used to??

i am sick and tired of skill based matchmaking, why can't just get put in with randoms like we used to??

  1. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not going to lie, I'll never understand FPS dudes complaining about skill based matchmaking
    I guess the mentality of someone who played more stuff like fighting games is just too different from FPS players

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Stomping kids into the dirt and hearing their screams of rage can be fun.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      because i don't want to always be forced into try hard mode just because the game realizes I'm good enough to have to go against metafags that want to only play optimally or "to win." sometimes I just want to relax and fuck around, only ranked should have skill based matchmaking

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I just want to relax and fuck around
        >I also demand that I win every single match I take part in
        Just take the loss. If you're fucking around why do you care?

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >You're only mad because you're losing!
          Fuck off playing with spergs is actively not fun

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          They won’t be able to answer this with anything that supports their argument.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            i want to win some lose some in a match, not curbstomp then blown the fuck out in different matches

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >i want to win games and also lose games
              >but i dont want to win games and also lose games
              Mh

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                i want to tie consecutive matches through skillful playing, and not be paired with teammates that carry me or i carry them.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          No, I just enjoy being able to use tools that wouldn't work in higher levels of play because of how tryhard other players would be

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Man I'd love to play football
          >Go on to field
          >Pick up ball
          >Complete gay kicks your knee in
          >Um If YoU'Re JuST hERe 2 Hav fUN WhY DO You CaRE!

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            in that scenario they would the beat the shit out of him for being an asshole for no reason
            unless you were the asshole first and everyone thinks he was justified?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              News flash retard, matchmaking doesn't quarantine those gays out which is why people hate it.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                It quarantines the tryhard gays. People ITT are just buttmad that they got put in the tryhard bracket after curbstomping noobs with meta builds. Now they actually have to try to get a win and they can't take a loss for some dumbass reason.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >matchmaking good
                >unless you win
                >then you should be matched with unwinnable scenarios
                face it, their SBMM algorithm is shittier than just randomizing the competitors

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I know you retards are really fucking autistic like the only thing more retarded would be an orgy on a sped center field trip to a theme park, but fuck is it exhausting to have to explain literally every three seconds that it's not about winning or losing, it's that the quality of the game plummets IMMENSELY when you're dealing with autistic gays that have literally zero interest in actually enjoying a game and just want their number go up.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                So you're fine being the autistic gay shitting on noobs? Seems like you just can't take what you're dishing out.
                You have no argument other than wanting to punch down for fun.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Are you so fucking retarded do you think you can "win" a conversation? That by being so fucking retarded you exhaust the person you're talking to and they leave that's some kind of "victory"?

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                So you have no argument and just resort to attacking the other party? As to be expected of someone who can only find enjoyment in smurfing.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >accused of attempting to win a conversation
                >awards himself self bonus points

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                but it does anon
                your just someone who needs to be quarantined out, thats why you think it doesn't do its job
                YOU are the unsavory person who wants to punch down on new players

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >food metaphors

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Um If YoU'Re JuST hERe 2 Hav fUN WhY DO You CaRE!

            and he damn right

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >>If YoU'Re JuST hERe 2 Hav fUN WhY DO You CaRE!
            That's a legitimate question.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          They won’t be able to answer this with anything that supports their argument.

          >decide to have fun
          >"hey let's kick and report anon he's being useless"
          >banned

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          MUH K/D!

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I want to fuck around
        You mean you want to kick sand on some toddlers for enjoyment? Just admit you only have fun when it's a guaranteed win.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          I know this is really hard for you to understand, with your literal 5 year old tier level of cognition, but other people want different things.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I don’t want to have to try hard
        >I do however, want the lower skilled players playing against me to have to try really hard

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >give retards a false sense of being good at the game by putting them against other retards
          >put them against normal people where they realize how shitty they are
          okay

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >sometimes I just want to relax and fuck around
        Quit talking so broadly and non specifically like a bitter jackass. Playing video games in itself is to "relax and fuck around," so how the hell do you know if the players you're losing to aren't also relaxing and fucking around? Video games, like all other competitive past times, are played for fun. You call others tryhards yet you're the one who looks like a petty tryhard because you're upset about being matched with people who have an equal chance of beating you.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >oh you're better than the average player
          >here, play against the diamond players that will consistently outplay you if aren't always on top of your shit and trying to go hard
          very fun and relaxing, truly

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Alternatively.
            >oh you're better than the average player
            >here, carry these fucking retards, yes, all 5 of them.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              If I'm trying to do ranked, yes that would be awful, in a casual setting I probably wouldn't care and just laugh that my team is that bad unless the other team just also had good players and i couldn't do anything at all

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            This argument is so tired and dumb. You're literally saying you want to relax and have fun by playing against people of lower skill than yourself, so you don't have to "try". Which is fine in a single player game, just drop it down to easy. But in an online game your enjoyment comes at the expense of other, less skilled players, unless they are masochistic

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because every match ends up feeling the same, with the same level of sweat.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      forced 50/50 inherently feels bad thanks to negativity bias

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is that lobbies are also disbanded at the conclusion of the match, traditionally MMR would only factor into the initial matching and every subsequent game the teams would be shuffled based on score in the previous game, so the quality and fairness of matches gradually improved the longer you played and this encouraged the formation of friendship and rivalries as well.

      Instead every game is a new matchmaking session and is now balanced based on the distribution of players with the smallest possible difference in the sum of every players rank in a given bracket, in theory this produces a mathematically balanced game every time, in practice you get one team with players at the absolute top and bottom of a given bracket and another with all the players in the middle, and those borderline players either get promoted or demoted to the next bracket where they are now at the top or bottom again and get an equally badly balanced game, this also completely destroys the social aspect.

      It's just a bad system.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      FPS used to have community run servers with all sorts of mods, settings and communities that were way more fun to play.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because the elephant in the room is that a lot of FPSs are just not that enjoyable when the entire lobby is full of medium to high-skill players. I'm not defending people crying about SBMM, I'm just saying that it becomes a grind when you can barely tread above a 1.0 K/D.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomies never got to experience the dedicated server days.
      Matchmaking is just putting random assholes together with no reputation and no consequences. It is nothing but low quality matches over and over again.
      In dedicated servers you would keep playing games with a loose collection of people. There is a reason to not be a complete piece of shit. On top of that players made a variety of servers. You had servers that encouraged trolling and bullshit, you had servers that discouraged it. You had noob servers that kicked you for being too good and pro servers that kicked you for being trash. Eventually you found the right server.
      A big part of the reason people remember TF2 is that it was the last big hurray of dedicated servers.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Because every match ends up feeling the same, with the same level of sweat.

        because i don't want to always be forced into try hard mode just because the game realizes I'm good enough to have to go against metafags that want to only play optimally or "to win." sometimes I just want to relax and fuck around, only ranked should have skill based matchmaking

        Games have to be balanced because there is always a sweaty retard in every lobby who tryhards and thinks he is cool for it. They make a casual game suddenly competitive, its like that one scout on 2fort that is really good and runs for the objective over and over while killing frendlies.

        You bastards made it this way now eat it up and dont complain. There has been enough noob blood spilled so far

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not just mentality, it's also the fact that 1v1 fightan games are just different from 6v6/12v12 shooters. If you do a 1v1 in any game, you probably want someone around your skill level, that's optimal for enjoyment. 12-24 players (or more) of similar decent skill in a shooter just turns into an esports match, and esports is shite.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >fighting games
      >1v1

      >fps games
      >team based

      Pretty huge difference there. SBMM is good for 1v1s, not so much for team games. Has nothing to do with "mentality," you retard.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      You'll find that skill based matchmaking gets more complaints the sihttier it is.
      Rainbow Six Siege had a perfect strategy of using some copper 4 account to bring the whole team down to stomp on people.
      Regular casual matches also consisted of platinums stomping on another team, you either had to deal with the former or get kicked around like a football in the latter.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      the fact of the matter is, fps players are sensitive bitches who can't handle getting gud and would rather stomp children all day in their dedicated servers, inflating their k/d whereas fighting games inherently encourage the opposite mentality ---continously fighting players better than you and seeing your personal growth as the motive for your enjoyment

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Serious question, when did it become okay to punish good players by putting them in a quarantine zone? If I'm good at the game, why should I not be rewarded with winning more?

  2. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what happened to the guy in that pic, imagine being the living meme of a weak white dude

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's a man?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      They became Scott the Woz.

  3. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I just hate forced matchmaking dogshit in general. I know zooms don't remember this but even console games used to have server browsers

  4. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Play too good for two games
    >Stuck with people cheating until my gamer credit score drops down enough to play with people actually there because they like the game and not because they NEED their top scoreboard position to give themselves a reason to not kill themselves
    Please make it stop

  5. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to win by pulling a lever and hoping for a jackpot, go to the casino.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It's only about winning you're mad you're not winning reee you're a loser you're a loser and that's why you're mad because you lost and didn't win you can't dislike me I won at videogames

  6. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    the only people who call it skill based matchmaking are call of duty shitlords who want to punch down on new players while they sweat their balls off and don't want to play balanced matches
    everyone else in literally every genre of game, including FPS games, always wanted balanced matches of players of equal skill
    even server based games still had many servers implementing rating systems and trying to organize fair & balanced games so that people can have high quality matches between good players

    literally name me a game except console shooters where people don't want balanced matchmaking systems
    they also don't call it skill based match making, just matchmaking because thats the fucking point of matchmaking, it was never random

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This. Unless you're a gay that can only have fun when he's winning, being matched with players who are below your skill level is boring as hell.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You'll only get a team on your own skill level in 30% of games and only if you have a consistent winning or losing streak so you move to the middle of a given skill bracket, this is due to every match being a new matchmaking session based on the most equal distribution of player ranks for a given bracket.

        You will also NEVER get any enemy team on your own skill level.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >literally name me a game except console shooters where people don't want balanced matchmaking systems
      I don't want matchmaking at fucking all you retard.

  7. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    The problem isn't the matchmaking. It's the lack of dedicated servers.

  8. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Have friends, create local lobby.

  9. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    git gud

  10. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to play Warcraft 3 and CS with unskilled players for a fun. Hardcore no scope 360 Jackshits can fuck off. Same shit with fightings.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      i wish Warcraft 3 wasn't, raped and killed

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is the same as a grown man playing in a tee ball league.
      >I just want to fuck around
      >I don't want to have to try to win
      >I love having fun at the expense of everyone else.
      It's a pretty hollow match when you're basically playing against a brick wall.

  11. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    i like to imagine real life has skill based matchmaking and the better you are the better your life ends up being

  12. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Play Planetside 2, is a fun shitfest with noobs and 'pros' in the same fight

  13. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >queue rated game
    >it's skilled based matchmaking
    >queue casual game
    >it's also skilled based matchmaking

    Overwatch in particular can go fuck itself.

  14. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Overwatch just came out
    >had the closed beta so I'm already pretty good at the game
    >get up to diamond in ranked pretty quickly
    >go to play with my friends in quickplay
    >they are all low rated casuals
    >every game is us getting shitstomped
    >entire enemy team matches my ranked rating despite us playing in a casual mode
    >it's 1 diamond + 5 casuals vs 6 diamond players every time without fail
    >am forced to leave so my friends can actually enjoy the game

  15. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    non skill based matchmaking doesn't exist, the entire point is to match you with people your skill

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Did you entirely miss most of handheld and console gaming?

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >non skill based matchmaking doesn't exist
      you are too young to be on this site

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      some types of matchmaking that would qualify as not being skill based:
      >first come first served
      >random sample
      >playtime based
      >purchase history based
      >gameplay selection based (character, role, et cetera)

  16. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 before meet ur match
    >Join match in 3 seconds
    >Noobs get to learn how to play by seeing good players
    >Pros get to relax or tryhard against other pros
    >If the team is losing, noobs teamswitch and new, possibly good players fill the losing team
    >Short map change because teams don't disband
    TF2 after match ur shit
    >5 min queue
    >Games are one-sided as shit despite muh matching system
    >Can't teamswitch on will so noobs are stuck in the losing team until the end
    >Team always disbands, making you wait another queue

  17. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Shooting games aren't actually fun is what I'm understanding from this thread.

  18. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >why can't just get put in with randoms like we used to??
    Because people on the other end of an ass stomping arent having fun? Play against npcs on easy difficulty if you want to pubstomp your shitty game

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      why do you assume there's asses getting 'stomped' instead of a balanced game that can end in ties frequently?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >a balanced game that can end in ties frequently?
        But thats literally what matching players of even skill gives you??? If you have a 1:1 win/loss ratio, then matchmaking is working perfectly. Its when its completely random that complete shutouts happen, because experts get paired with noobs. Theres a reason these candy asses make 'smurf' accounts, because theyre too big of pussies to fight a fair fight.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >arent having fun
      it's called leave the game and join another one
      unless you're a fag who plays ranked and doesn't want his 10 minute leaver cooldown

  19. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's poor implementation of matchmaking. A lot of times it won't be every single player being on equal footing. It will be shitters being paired up with better players to force a win or loss to prevent streaks.

  20. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    why does that matter aside from in games with low populations? I do however dislike that almost no games feature server browsers or custom rule settings these days. I legitimately don't understand why not as it would just increase the lifespan of the games.

  21. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when you could host your own server in an FPS game?

  22. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    git gud

  23. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Dedicated servers was already a perfect solution to this problem, but companies decided to just inflict centralized cancer into their games.

    Want to be a tryhard? Join a clan server and get people who want to practice and play high level games.

    Want to play randos? Just jump onto any public server and get into it.

    Want to fuck around and do completely absurd shit? Go to the server with a million mods installed and play ridiculous game modes and laugh at all that shit.

    Centralized is terrible because it punishes everyone for not wanting to play like an esports league dweeb.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is why server based multiplayer is superior. You get to know regular players and can try hard if you want or fuck around if you want. It also filters out the toxic fags who play just to aggravate others. This is why TF2 servers were so good. They were so laid back and chill that you could have a legit political discussion with some random stranger (all in good faith) simply because the environment was tailored to the player’s enjoyment rather than training the player to be the best sniper in the entire world.

      Fuck skill based matchmaking. Multiplayer aren’t for mastering, they’re for sharing spontaneous fun with others. Im not getting paid for that shit so why should I have to feel stressed? Bring back servers.

      Servers put control of the game in the hands of players - and companies hate that shit with a passion.

  24. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is why server based multiplayer is superior. You get to know regular players and can try hard if you want or fuck around if you want. It also filters out the toxic fags who play just to aggravate others. This is why TF2 servers were so good. They were so laid back and chill that you could have a legit political discussion with some random stranger (all in good faith) simply because the environment was tailored to the player’s enjoyment rather than training the player to be the best sniper in the entire world.

    Fuck skill based matchmaking. Multiplayer aren’t for mastering, they’re for sharing spontaneous fun with others. Im not getting paid for that shit so why should I have to feel stressed? Bring back servers.

  25. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >i am sick and tired of skill based matchmaking, why can't just get put in with randoms like we used to??

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >make one single mistake
      >get kicked
      fuck off

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        This. The votekick system needs to be ripped out of this game. Find a different way to punish griefers

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >punish griefers
          It helps griefers too
          Can't votekick you until the random vote they made goes through. Makes for a convenient delay

  26. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing idea anon! jk your retard.

    I'm not absolute dogshit at apex legends, so if I play casual lobbies, I get matched up with people around my level, and then a couple of pros/streamers (who play the game literally all day)procede to obliterate the entire lobby. Trust me, It ain't fun.

  27. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    when someone says they hate skill based matchmaking that tells me they are a baby that can't handle losing at a videogame.

  28. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Matchmaking is retarded

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