Some crazy guy who is basically another player is mad at you for blowing up his favorite area. He knows you didn't do it on purpose, but he has no real way to find the guy that did so he's letting his anger out on you.
I never played the DLC for NV until recently and boy do they suck. Dead Money was the only one I kind of liked.
Chris Avaellone wrote a 3 page epic in DLC form that is more or less a semi-sequel and meta commentary on New Vegas. He also made sure to include FOUR separate ways the Mojave is going to be destroyed because he hates the setting. All that work you did is going to be for naught. Only Honest Hearts feels like it has any place in the world.
Also, all the DLC's have enemies harder than anything in the base game, but all take place before the end of the game. You can take out Dry Wells with Gaius who is a ibgger deal than Lanius, then face Lanius himself.
It's a side story that feels like it matters because it's about the Legion and NCR war which drives the New Vegas storyline. The others are just so irrelevant or even feel like tangents or sequels.
>Father Elijah >Christine
I think these characters are FINE and even some of the more interesting in the game, just they feel so disconnected. I think they could have also done more to integrate the DLC's into the stories, since you FEEL like you're playing New Vegas, stop play DLC 1, DLC2, DLC3, then go back to the game.
You can NUKE the highway to the Mojave and it has zero impact on the game. Zero. No one mentions it at all. You can nuke a major Legion base in the Mojave and no one says antyhing. You can capture and get Big MT on your side when it's a way bigger deal than Hoover dam. etc.
It should have had: >House, Caesar, Brotherhood, NCR, all ask you to check out anomoly and give you a mission (destroy, capture, etc) >actually impacts the base game and final battle
, Caesar, Brotherhood, NCR, all ask you to check out anomoly and give you a mission (destroy, capture, etc)
do you really want to be forced to do some shitty fetch quests WHILE doing the boring meet the faction missions?
It could at least integrate it more: >Caesar's spies has found this big anomoly but no one can get in. It looks like old world tech far beyond anyone's imagination. Go in and destroy it. >Brotherhood spies has found this big anomoly in a crater, looks like it's some pre-war research station. Capture it and bring relecs to the Brotherhood >Ending: And so the Brotherhood, armed with the technology of big MT finally defeated the NCR
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Anonymous
they sold garbage overpriced fetch quests, what makes you think they would have done that? besides, i dont think adding it to the main story would have benefited anything. just another ending slide that affects nothing
Speaking of that, did you know that Veronica's dialogues about Father Elijah you get after beating the dlc where recorded during the development of the base game? Thats why you can not mention Christine to her since she was a character added way later into the development of the dlc and at this point thay had recorded all the lines with Veronica and did not want to hire the VA again.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it would have been. They were already on a tight deadline and they cut off well over 50% of planned content because there was no time to add more to the game without crashing it. Do you know how many NPC’s they took off the game? Especially after every DLC? The Ultimate Edition is the most butchered version of NV.
Did you know Cass was planned to have marriage or hook up options? There was planned random skirmishes of NCR/Legion NPC’s, etc. Fucking Bearbullman himself was supposed to be a potential Legion based companion.
The courier is an asshole and does whatever he wants and it causes destruction but the NCR and the Legion are just as bad as him so that gay is even stupider.
Yupp.
The Chad courier six and the beta whatever the fuck his name is.
Honestly, 1
I just cant bring myself to replay any of them, maybe just rush got the riot gear if i really want it and thats it
Dead money had the best story, characters, atmosphere and setting, but its gameplay is just so fucking tedious that i cant bring myself to replay it.
OWB, dedpute its too le wacky and randumb humor is amusing for a playthrough, but listening to all that dialogue again is just painful. And its gameplay and enemies are gigaboring aside for that.
Lonesome is probably the least replayable one, not much different choices you can make and Ulysses is a sperg
HH is just bad, easily the worst one for me. I know people like it for Joshua, but i never liked him *THAT* much and hes in it for like 10 minutes. The best part if it imo is the survivalist subplot and once you get the whole story, theres isnt really any point to replay that one either
How do you morons not realize this entire thing is an elaborate shitpost prediction about bethesda fallout >character given backstory against their will >walk down a straight path blowing up nukes to progress >Factions just brainless enemies >Retarded sacrifice at the end
When Ulysses said you had been to Shady sands and new Reno. He wasn't talking to the courier. He was talking to you. And when he blames you for everything going to shit because of you, it was the response to fallout three.
Take one look at the steaming dump that is 76 and it's almost fucking PROPHETIC.
Kreia's snide comment about how SW universe is doomed to repeat the catastrophic shift between Light and the Dark and how the Force is causing all this is basically Avellone speaking
Yeah probably.
I dunno, I dont really care much but it was a fun game, I did not give a solid FUCK about the story and its fucking gay message.
The guns were cool though.
>No, but if the mailman is carrying a bomb shaped package maybe he should think before he delivers it.
Hey man, jobs a job, I get paid to do a job, I am delivering that fucking bomb, not my problem, its the bomb victims problem.
What does a bomb shaped package look like? Does it tick like in a cartoon? Does it have a conHispanicuous lit fuse? Is it shaped like the Fat Man but wrapped in brown paper?
tl;dr >retcon more backstory for the Courier >(You) apparently delivered a nuke detonator to Divide without knowing what it was (off-screen before the game began) >nukes detonated on their own (off-screen before the game began) and you never heard about it >Ulysses lived in the Divide and went gigamad, and becomes obsessed with small people making big changes in history, inadvertently causing all the plots of the previous DLCs - trained White Legs, awakened the Big Reddits' memories and told Elijah about Sierra Madre (off-screen before the game began) >sees your name on accident when doing courier work and lets you have the Platinum Chip job, hoping it'll kill you (off-screen before the game began) >it doesn't, so he sends a random signal for you to follow so he can ramble about gay bear sex and his bull and the results of choices and consequences for several hours before trying to nuke NCR because that's (You)r homeland
The foreshadowing, mystery and hype leading up to Ulysses was much better than the actual payoff. At least the place itself was decent and a lot more grand than the lackluster vanilla final battle for the dam.
Courier six here, I nuked both the NCR and the legion for the sweet loot, also took all the gold bars and also also had really bad NCR and Legion rep by the time I nuked their gay asses.
The courier is paid to do a job, that job is getting fucking done, fuck me sideways cunt.
>No, but if the mailman is carrying a bomb shaped package maybe he should think before he delivers it.
Hey man, jobs a job, I get paid to do a job, I am delivering that fucking bomb, not my problem, its the bomb victims problem.
Everything becomes clear when you realize Ulysses is an actual, legitimate schizophrenic. Its actually a rather adroit and precise depiction of the condition.
Hes paranoid, obsessive, fixated on very specific events/people and their actions in his life, unable to truly interconnect all his thoughts and emotions, and best of all, completely unable/unwilling to legitimately explain his position.
Once you accept that the DLC is actually courier striving to put down a mad dog with his finger on the trigger, and the mad dog is just barking nonsense at you the whole time.
I fried his dreadlocked moron head with Dinner Bell
Avellone hates Fallout moving past the initial, barbaric post-war society and decided to write a DLC all about how much he hates the new nations and how much he thinks they need to be nuked to reset the status quo. And if the player didn't think this was a genius idea, he implemented the Tunnelers to be a vague world-ending threat (despite being piss easy to farm ingame)
Also responsible for introducing a middle-aged NCR backstory that some insane moron vomits at you.
Some muscular black guy who was a former legionary schizoposting about the state of affairs in the Mojave. He moved on from the Mojave a while back and made peace in the divide until you did your job as a mailman by delivering something there only for it to then blow the entire place up. He has a chip on his shoulder now cause of it.
>greed is.............................................................................................................................................................. le bad
woah... i never considered this... this really makes me think...
Think, ponder over its content and put some thought in what you just experienced. Alternatively, watch YT vids on it, Noah Gervais made an updated look at the entire Fallout franchise.
>Old World Blues
was rick and morty borderlands 2 slop before borderlands 2. technically, not horribly written, but making a DLC based on the wackier side of NV was a mistake considering the not-wacky stuff was so, so good >Dead Money
"DOG, BACK IN THE CAGE!" makes this ultra kino
successful skill checks bricking the dean domino conversation was genius
terrible DLC by gameplay standards but who the fuck plays new vegas for the gameplay >Honest Hearts
barely a DLC, Joshua Graham being the best character in the game doesn't suddenly make Honest Hearts good. It even has some shit writing, namely author favoritism because siding with Joshua is almost objectively correct and siding with that other cuck ends with him literally never being happy with anything you do >Lonesome Road
i have no opinion on this
I've never played NV long enough without bugs ruining my save to even get to this
>successful skill checks bricking the dean domino conversation was genius
i just wish the game did more occasions where winning a speech check is the "bad" option. Tho it's actually best for Dean to die, he's a worthless seething gay
>Joshua Graham being the best character
Why people keep calling Joshua Graham the best character, when he is barely a character, does almost nothing and in the game for about 15 minutes? Is it just because he's a Christian and 4chancucks cream your pants over that fact?
He’s a mormon, and he’s got more personality than most of the other characters in the DLC which is summarized down to tribals and a humanitarian bitch. Not an impressive DLC overall.
Weren't you paying any attention? Easy Pete ordered a delivery of ED-E to the Great Devide, that was a prosperous community at the time. Bringing the robot there set in motion security protocols of the underground military base with a bunch of nuclear warheards exploding everywhere and wiping the community out. Said community was Ulysses' second home and now he sicks revenge, blaming you, the courier, for that deadly delivery. The problem is you don't remember any of this because you have amnesia after Benny shot you.
It provides a good closure to the game. You're a brainlet if you don't understand. It was really the first time games tried to get a player to sympathize with AI and robots having a personality with ED-E. The next game we got discussing AI with personalities was Detroit: Become Human. You fight through endless waves of Marked Men mindlessly fighting for a lost cause and Deathclaws/Tunnelers being two sides to one coin of wasteland danger co-habiting a space where they just want to thrive.
I hope you made the right choice and exterminated all of the White Legs instead of running away from Zion like a pussy, you wouldn't want to disappoint Randall Clark would you?
bear and bull
B & B
Some crazy guy who is basically another player is mad at you for blowing up his favorite area. He knows you didn't do it on purpose, but he has no real way to find the guy that did so he's letting his anger out on you.
Chris Avaellone wrote a 3 page epic in DLC form that is more or less a semi-sequel and meta commentary on New Vegas. He also made sure to include FOUR separate ways the Mojave is going to be destroyed because he hates the setting. All that work you did is going to be for naught. Only Honest Hearts feels like it has any place in the world.
Also, all the DLC's have enemies harder than anything in the base game, but all take place before the end of the game. You can take out Dry Wells with Gaius who is a ibgger deal than Lanius, then face Lanius himself.
>Only Honest Hearts feels like it has any place in the world.
patrician take
It's a side story that feels like it matters because it's about the Legion and NCR war which drives the New Vegas storyline. The others are just so irrelevant or even feel like tangents or sequels.
>Father Elijah
>Christine
I think these characters are FINE and even some of the more interesting in the game, just they feel so disconnected. I think they could have also done more to integrate the DLC's into the stories, since you FEEL like you're playing New Vegas, stop play DLC 1, DLC2, DLC3, then go back to the game.
You can NUKE the highway to the Mojave and it has zero impact on the game. Zero. No one mentions it at all. You can nuke a major Legion base in the Mojave and no one says antyhing. You can capture and get Big MT on your side when it's a way bigger deal than Hoover dam. etc.
It should have had:
>House, Caesar, Brotherhood, NCR, all ask you to check out anomoly and give you a mission (destroy, capture, etc)
>actually impacts the base game and final battle
, Caesar, Brotherhood, NCR, all ask you to check out anomoly and give you a mission (destroy, capture, etc)
do you really want to be forced to do some shitty fetch quests WHILE doing the boring meet the faction missions?
It could at least integrate it more:
>Caesar's spies has found this big anomoly but no one can get in. It looks like old world tech far beyond anyone's imagination. Go in and destroy it.
>Brotherhood spies has found this big anomoly in a crater, looks like it's some pre-war research station. Capture it and bring relecs to the Brotherhood
>Ending: And so the Brotherhood, armed with the technology of big MT finally defeated the NCR
they sold garbage overpriced fetch quests, what makes you think they would have done that? besides, i dont think adding it to the main story would have benefited anything. just another ending slide that affects nothing
For that they would need to write new lines of text and rehire the VAs. So it was a no no
Speaking of that, did you know that Veronica's dialogues about Father Elijah you get after beating the dlc where recorded during the development of the base game? Thats why you can not mention Christine to her since she was a character added way later into the development of the dlc and at this point thay had recorded all the lines with Veronica and did not want to hire the VA again.
Yeah, it would have been. They were already on a tight deadline and they cut off well over 50% of planned content because there was no time to add more to the game without crashing it. Do you know how many NPC’s they took off the game? Especially after every DLC? The Ultimate Edition is the most butchered version of NV.
Did you know Cass was planned to have marriage or hook up options? There was planned random skirmishes of NCR/Legion NPC’s, etc. Fucking Bearbullman himself was supposed to be a potential Legion based companion.
The courier is an asshole and does whatever he wants and it causes destruction but the NCR and the Legion are just as bad as him so that gay is even stupider.
Yupp.
The Chad courier six and the beta whatever the fuck his name is.
I never played the DLC for NV until recently and boy do they suck. Dead Money was the only one I kind of liked.
BBC (Bear Bull Couriers)
Dunno, but i love it, i could listen to Ulysses' autistic rambling for hours.
Shame its probably the least replayable one, its just too railoaded
walking through the maze of rubble while spamming rockets was fun
>walking through the maze of rubble while spamming rockets was fun
No.
>ummmmm....actually my life freaking sucks now and basically it's all your fault.........
How many playthroughs did it take for you to realize all 4 of the dlcs are garbage?
I don't mind Old World Blues, its shitty humour brings me back to a simpler time.
They also got the VA for Rusty Venture to play Dr. 0, which elevated the whole thing.
>They also got the VA for Rusty Venture to play Dr. 0, which elevated the whole thing.
To SHIT. Thanks for reminding me that they were copying the worst of the Venture Bros shit for Oldworld Blues.
NV DLCs are sucked but listening to characters were just fun
Looks like someone got filtered by DM.
Nah, probably the best of the 4. Just find all the dlcs to be a chore at this point.
my latest playthrough
they really are awful
honest hearts was the most promising but they dropped the ball hard
Honestly, 1
I just cant bring myself to replay any of them, maybe just rush got the riot gear if i really want it and thats it
Dead money had the best story, characters, atmosphere and setting, but its gameplay is just so fucking tedious that i cant bring myself to replay it.
OWB, dedpute its too le wacky and randumb humor is amusing for a playthrough, but listening to all that dialogue again is just painful. And its gameplay and enemies are gigaboring aside for that.
Lonesome is probably the least replayable one, not much different choices you can make and Ulysses is a sperg
HH is just bad, easily the worst one for me. I know people like it for Joshua, but i never liked him *THAT* much and hes in it for like 10 minutes. The best part if it imo is the survivalist subplot and once you get the whole story, theres isnt really any point to replay that one either
>survivalist subplot
Spoil me. I don't remember that one and no way I'm playing that shit again.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Randall_Clark
This dude. Very nice, but depressing story
I kinda like dead money but it's also really tedious with all the signal emitters and shit
I'm over 2k hours and haven't "realized" yet. Surely when I hit 3k hours I'll learn the truth.
How do you morons not realize this entire thing is an elaborate shitpost prediction about bethesda fallout
>character given backstory against their will
>walk down a straight path blowing up nukes to progress
>Factions just brainless enemies
>Retarded sacrifice at the end
When Ulysses said you had been to Shady sands and new Reno. He wasn't talking to the courier. He was talking to you. And when he blames you for everything going to shit because of you, it was the response to fallout three.
Take one look at the steaming dump that is 76 and it's almost fucking PROPHETIC.
You give Josh and Avellone way too much credit, neither if them is smart enough to come up with that.
It's barely intelligent. It's just jacking off about nukes and communists. Bethesda just tumbled into it with 76
Maybe? I think it's more likely he decided the fanbase would shovel anything into their mouth and he was proven correct.
So it was deliberate shitpost just like KOTOR 2 was a rant about how stupid Star Wars universe is?
what did kotor2 say
Kreia's snide comment about how SW universe is doomed to repeat the catastrophic shift between Light and the Dark and how the Force is causing all this is basically Avellone speaking
seems ironic he wants fallout to be nuked backed into the stone age again
BRAVO AVELLONE
Also, "lonesome road" rhymes with "todd howard".
I call bullshit because this is the same guy who wrote Pillars of Eternity.
I believe it, not the first or last time some buttblasted dev hides a rant within gameplay
What gaem?
Looks neat
bloodborne
Déraciné III: Prepare to Die Edition
Passpartout
You Will Lose All Your Souls (several minutes of old woman laughing) 3: Ringed City
Dark Souls 3, the painter, from a dlc
Thanks.
I only played the OG Demon Souls and Dark Souls 2.
I might try 3 then
Yeah probably.
I dunno, I dont really care much but it was a fun game, I did not give a solid FUCK about the story and its fucking gay message.
The guns were cool though.
This DLC only makes sense if thr courier got amnesia from being shot in the head.
It's about people carrying messages without understanding the message they carry.
So the mailman should read my mail and make judgement on it?
No, but if the mailman is carrying a bomb shaped package maybe he should think before he delivers it.
>No, but if the mailman is carrying a bomb shaped package maybe he should think before he delivers it.
Hey man, jobs a job, I get paid to do a job, I am delivering that fucking bomb, not my problem, its the bomb victims problem.
What does a bomb shaped package look like? Does it tick like in a cartoon? Does it have a conHispanicuous lit fuse? Is it shaped like the Fat Man but wrapped in brown paper?
It wasn't a bomb but a detonator.
tl;dr
>retcon more backstory for the Courier
>(You) apparently delivered a nuke detonator to Divide without knowing what it was (off-screen before the game began)
>nukes detonated on their own (off-screen before the game began) and you never heard about it
>Ulysses lived in the Divide and went gigamad, and becomes obsessed with small people making big changes in history, inadvertently causing all the plots of the previous DLCs - trained White Legs, awakened the Big Reddits' memories and told Elijah about Sierra Madre (off-screen before the game began)
>sees your name on accident when doing courier work and lets you have the Platinum Chip job, hoping it'll kill you (off-screen before the game began)
>it doesn't, so he sends a random signal for you to follow so he can ramble about gay bear sex and his bull and the results of choices and consequences for several hours before trying to nuke NCR because that's (You)r homeland
The foreshadowing, mystery and hype leading up to Ulysses was much better than the actual payoff. At least the place itself was decent and a lot more grand than the lackluster vanilla final battle for the dam.
Courier six here, I nuked both the NCR and the legion for the sweet loot, also took all the gold bars and also also had really bad NCR and Legion rep by the time I nuked their gay asses.
The courier is paid to do a job, that job is getting fucking done, fuck me sideways cunt.
desert punk is fucking great
>off-screen before the game began
Yeah, it's called a backstory, literally all stories have them.
This fucking guy.
Mailmen
Everything becomes clear when you realize Ulysses is an actual, legitimate schizophrenic. Its actually a rather adroit and precise depiction of the condition.
Hes paranoid, obsessive, fixated on very specific events/people and their actions in his life, unable to truly interconnect all his thoughts and emotions, and best of all, completely unable/unwilling to legitimately explain his position.
Once you accept that the DLC is actually courier striving to put down a mad dog with his finger on the trigger, and the mad dog is just barking nonsense at you the whole time.
I fried his dreadlocked moron head with Dinner Bell
Unironically makes more sense than the original plot. The morons makes a convincing schizo if you think about him retrospective
Avellone hates Fallout moving past the initial, barbaric post-war society and decided to write a DLC all about how much he hates the new nations and how much he thinks they need to be nuked to reset the status quo. And if the player didn't think this was a genius idea, he implemented the Tunnelers to be a vague world-ending threat (despite being piss easy to farm ingame)
Also responsible for introducing a middle-aged NCR backstory that some insane moron vomits at you.
It's a hate letter to the fans and the IP.
why doesn't he just make his own post-apocalypse setting?
In his eyes, he did.
He established the death of the setting to reboot it to the way he liked (fallout 3 tier)
Based, factions that just serve as stand ins for shitty contemporary political beliefs are garbage. The DLC still sucks though but I respect the idea.
i wanna know why he kept talking about animals
It's a post-modern deconstruction of There and Back Again.
Some muscular black guy who was a former legionary schizoposting about the state of affairs in the Mojave. He moved on from the Mojave a while back and made peace in the divide until you did your job as a mailman by delivering something there only for it to then blow the entire place up. He has a chip on his shoulder now cause of it.
AKA kino. Only bad DLC was dead money.
>Only bad DLC was dead money
Y-You're not allowed to fucking say that!!
It was PROFOUND! It was KINO!!
>greed is.............................................................................................................................................................. le bad
woah... i never considered this... this really makes me think...
BBC
BEAR BULL COURRIER
Think, ponder over its content and put some thought in what you just experienced. Alternatively, watch YT vids on it, Noah Gervais made an updated look at the entire Fallout franchise.
>Old World Blues
was rick and morty borderlands 2 slop before borderlands 2. technically, not horribly written, but making a DLC based on the wackier side of NV was a mistake considering the not-wacky stuff was so, so good
>Dead Money
"DOG, BACK IN THE CAGE!" makes this ultra kino
successful skill checks bricking the dean domino conversation was genius
terrible DLC by gameplay standards but who the fuck plays new vegas for the gameplay
>Honest Hearts
barely a DLC, Joshua Graham being the best character in the game doesn't suddenly make Honest Hearts good. It even has some shit writing, namely author favoritism because siding with Joshua is almost objectively correct and siding with that other cuck ends with him literally never being happy with anything you do
>Lonesome Road
i have no opinion on this
I've never played NV long enough without bugs ruining my save to even get to this
>successful skill checks bricking the dean domino conversation was genius
i just wish the game did more occasions where winning a speech check is the "bad" option. Tho it's actually best for Dean to die, he's a worthless seething gay
>actually best for Dean to die
There are people who let him LIVE!?
wait you can let him live?
>Joshua Graham being the best character
Why people keep calling Joshua Graham the best character, when he is barely a character, does almost nothing and in the game for about 15 minutes? Is it just because he's a Christian and 4chancucks cream your pants over that fact?
So you're saying that raw screentime and number of quirky quips is the only thing that matters?
He’s a mormon, and he’s got more personality than most of the other characters in the DLC which is summarized down to tribals and a humanitarian bitch. Not an impressive DLC overall.
Some autistic moron who is also the main writer's donut steel OC has a bone to pick with you and it's up to you to stop him
Weren't you paying any attention? Easy Pete ordered a delivery of ED-E to the Great Devide, that was a prosperous community at the time. Bringing the robot there set in motion security protocols of the underground military base with a bunch of nuclear warheards exploding everywhere and wiping the community out. Said community was Ulysses' second home and now he sicks revenge, blaming you, the courier, for that deadly delivery. The problem is you don't remember any of this because you have amnesia after Benny shot you.
bear bull
It provides a good closure to the game. You're a brainlet if you don't understand. It was really the first time games tried to get a player to sympathize with AI and robots having a personality with ED-E. The next game we got discussing AI with personalities was Detroit: Become Human. You fight through endless waves of Marked Men mindlessly fighting for a lost cause and Deathclaws/Tunnelers being two sides to one coin of wasteland danger co-habiting a space where they just want to thrive.
>It was really the first time games tried to get a player to sympathize with AI and robots having a personality with ED-E.
Bro?
Your Synths?
I hope you made the right choice and exterminated all of the White Legs instead of running away from Zion like a pussy, you wouldn't want to disappoint Randall Clark would you?
A broken man obsessed with percussion.
The best part about this dlc is that you can yoink the goodies and ed-e upgrades and fuck off. Don't mind the autistic Black ramblings, he's harmless.