I don't think you could get a worse studio to make the SH2 remake even if you tried. I can't stand this fricking studio, their best game was Observer but even that was marred by awful design decisions and just plain incompetence from the writers.
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Bloober are great. Scrappy little dev, like a horror version of Teyon. Cope more.
Bloober are literally the only studio on the planet who could deliver SH2R with photorealistic visuals for 10 million dollars.
You're welcome to suggest devs who have proven they can deliver like Bloober
>SH2 demake
>photorealistic
homie it literally looks like the " KONAMI! HIRE THIS MAN!! " meme demos on israelitetube.
How is this not close to photorealism?
what happened to his formal old man shoes? why is he wearing trainers now, is James going to be a zoomer in the remake
He’s got Nike joggers, a supreme hoodie with air max shoes in the remake.
Show me a single fan project that looks like this.
>Bloober are literally the only studio on the planet who could deliver SH2R with photorealistic visuals for 10 million dollars.
imagine wanting this in games
they also did Basement Crawl
Honestly.... Frictional
I would like that to be the case but rebirth... was pretty meh imo
Not after Rebirth.
They could have easily remastered the first 4 games for half of that
Why would they do that? The reason this remake exists is to be a videogame companion to the new Christophe Gans movie. This entire Silent Hill revival is because Gans was like "I got good ideas for a movie, Konami." And Konami was like, "This man's vision is impeccable."
It's sad the franchise has been reduced to the level of a Shrek game
I couldn't stand Observer in the end but the environmental design. Really outstanding, denser than 2077 itself.
>caring so much about graphics.
you're why video games are shit nowadays.
He's right though that a game like Silent Hill sinks or swims on environmental fidelity and Bloober is - for better or for worse - the best we got right now, unless you want to go gamble one of your biggest IPs on random indie studios like the guys who made Visage.
Not just environmental fidelity. People won't stop b***hing about the character fidelity of SH3, for example. So if a new SH doesn't have photoreal humans or very well animated humans people will get angry.
Not even just that, it's about creature fidelity. I love Silent Hill because it's allergic to zombieshit by definition and I love Resident Evil because it isn't. If Bloober Americanizes the creatures or tone too much I'll uninstall
have you played The Medium? What's the fricking point of photorealistic graphics if a 3080 can't even maintain 60fps at 1440p?
ok name one studio that has delivered high quality art and graphics studio that does horror/thriller that is not fricking capcom's resident evil devs
evil within 1 and 2 now kys
The graphical fidelity and facial animation in their games isn't in the same league as Bloober. Nothing in their games looks as good as Bloober's older games.
>their games isn't in the same league as Bloober
hahahahahahahaha cope evil within 1 is just 8yo and people love the game blooshit will never compare ''unreal engine'' fricking kek they should've let some muricans make the game
>hahahahahahahaha cope evil within 1
Is a visually bland game with all the ugly limitations of id Tech 5. Its facial animation is terrible. TEW2 is worse.
It doesn't matter how much you like the game. Name another studio that can produce a game that looks like this on a lean budget. They have to be horror veterans, BTW.
kojima productions before konami got rid of them
>giving Kojimbo money for any purpose
he will just get a new actress to frick and thats all you will get out of it most likely
good investment if you have a lot of cash to burn through I guess
P.T changed the horror genre forever moron. Stop being biased and denying his social capital and influence on the industry. Capcom and Bloober have said they it was heavily influential to them.
so? he can make cool stuff, its just a question of money and time and he abuses both of those to the absolute maximum where I think even MS deep coffers will get visibly empty with him
What did pt change in the horror genre?
Kojima is an edgy chud and a hack and I will continue to shit and laugh at his ideas and the fact that he will never be a movie director. He is Japanese Sam Hyde, he is not deep he is un-selfawaringly autistic
>i suck troony wieners in hell
yeah, we noticed
It's pretty fricking blatantly clear what they were trying to do and it worked because Konami is a lazy shithole now
Who cares if their writers are shit when SH2 already has its story
Do you think Konami kept devs around for 15 years just in case they ever wanted to make a videogame sometime soon? Konami is a list of IPs and a marketing division anno 2022, nothing more
I disagree
Yeah the writing and game design sucks in their games but they can do good audio/visuals
And that's the only thing they needed to do is to just make the graphics modern
>MODERN GRAPHICS
yeah too bad
the environments looks nice at least but I dont know what the frick happened to James
Yeah but what else is there? Silent Hill already barely had gameplay, it’s not like there’s anything to ruin. It’s basically just some puzzles, those aren’t gonna change. All they’re really doing is putting a high poly-count coat of paint on the game. Which is really all I’d want them to do.
Is that a pedo spiral?
What was wrong with Observer?
They ignore Observer because it doesn't fit their narrative.
I thought it just had its priorities out of whack. I thought the game was at its best when it was more of an adventure game and you were allowed to just wander around the apartment building, talking to tenants and searching for clues, but the game also wanted to be a horror, which I think it does quite poorly. Those mindjacking sequences or whatever they're called were terrible and I hated them. I know some people loved them but I hated them. I didn't finish a lot of side quests because most of them led to a mind jack sequence and I was just not willing to put up with it.
I think they needed to prioritise the adventure/detective elements. Overhaul the dialogue system so it isn't so simplistic, make the story have a nonlinear progression where the player chooses which leads to follow up on, put more emphasis on how this apartment building is practically its own mini society, something which the game already did quite well but I think it should've been one of the main focuses of the game.
Another problem is that the story itself just blows. It's interesting for a little bit but it just gets confused with itself by the end and it had no clue what it was doing, just plain dumb endings that had so little to do with everything that came before.
>Another problem is that the story itself just blows. It's interesting for a little bit but it just gets confused with itself by the end and it had no clue what it was doing, just plain dumb endings that had so little to do with everything that came before.
The ending was what everything had built towards. The AI murdered your son and impersonated him to lure you so it could steal you body, but it first had to weaken you by tricking you into thinking you'd been a terrible father, a monster that your son featured. I thought it was relatively straightforward.
I agree on some points. I do think the least interesting part of the game by far is when they do the standard "oh no spooky monster stealth section" bits. And yeah the mindjack sections were mostly just corridors
>walk forwards
>dead end, turn around
>ooh everything changed frick
Could have been done better. But I loved the worldbuilding and whole idea of a game set in a single apartment block. Amazing ambience as well.
BRAVO BLOOBER TEAM
SO LE HAUNTING
SO LE DEPRESSED
Reminder that the original puzzle was a masterclass in implicit and subtle design.
This scene is honestly hilarious in how they're rubbing it in people's faces.
Where does this idea that Silent Hill is SUBTLE come from?
I don't know if I would call it subtle, but I would say it's very elegant in the way it handles symbolism and imagery in general.
Which studio would you rather have do it? There are literally no good horror devs anymore.
legit last good horror I remember was Darkwood and that had its own issues too
There is not a single studio that would be better than them. I don't get the hate.
They had some cool ideas with Layers of Fear and Medium even tho it was mediocre.
Also they completely mogg visually every horror game that was made, ever.
Darkwood is kino but it was made by 3 polish nerds. How do you suppose they could handle this type of game since their only experience is with a top down 2.5d game?
We just need to get Bloober, the Visage devs, the Lost in Vivo dev, and Darkwood devs to collab for Silent Hill 6
>How do you suppose they could handle this type of game since their only experience is with a top down 2.5d game?
I dont, I was just giving an example of a relatively new game with great atmosphere and art direction
naturally their chances are next to none to deliver anything of SH size
first game maybe, second not so much
in a way similar to frictional
Bloober are masters of horror
https://twitter.com/bobvids/status/1526314444074131457
Bobvids is like the new Twin Perfect in terms of being a complete moron that completely misunderstands the thing he's a self-declared expert on. He's entirely responsible for the myths about The Medium's ending. Never underestimate the power of autism.
I bet they're blowing most of their budget using Troy Baker, no wonder their games are shit.
They should've used Bokeh studio... you know, the guys actually responsible for Silent Hill and are now making slitterhead.
It's not Try Baker, right? They wouldn't be that stupid, not after how much everyone hated him in that hd collection or whatever it was.
At least they are not charging characters races
Blooper is decent you gays are acting like bluepoint is remaking the game.
Kek I called them blooper yeah their name is fricking stupid.
bluepoint is way better than bloober
Yeah sure.
he actually smiles in the game poorgay.
It drives me nuts when I see other people's reactions and they don't pick up on his new voice being completely different.
I'm not an butthole about it, I respect other people, but its so painfully obvious to me like... they already fricked up and tripped at the starting line. Konami is using this opportunity to try and weasel their way back into the gaming market on a gamble of goodwill since their pachinko mines are starting to run dry.
Of course his new voice is completely different. They're never going to do the monotone thing again. In any SH game.
>if a man rapes a little girl it's because he has a demon inside him that manipulates him against his will, he dindu nuthin
>if a little girl is raped, she can't get over her trauma and will end up hurting everyone around her and the only way to escape is to kill herself
Same with their horrible Blair Witch game
>if you're a soldier with PTSD you're going to relapse and hurt other people, might as well have a nice day
>also we named your help dog FRICKING BULLET because obviously when someone is scarred from a war you give them a companion with a name that can trigger his disorder
I'm sure these morons will handle Angela's story like a freight car ramming through a mall
What if little girl rapes a man?
>>if a man rapes a little girl it's because he has a demon inside him that manipulates him against his will, he dindu nuthin
Wrong. He's responsible because he chose to let The Child Eater take him over.
>if a little girl is raped, she can't get over her trauma and will end up hurting everyone around her and the only way to escape is to kill herself
Also incredibly wrong. I'm not sure why you talk about a girl being raped, and not a girl making a deal with a demon that fricks over hundreds of people as an unintended consequence.
>if you're a soldier with PTSD you're going to relapse and hurt other people, might as well have a nice day
Also wrong. The main character in Blair Witch is being manipulated to become the Witch's servant. It goes without saying that the Witch is real, and was always real, and this has been film canon for decades.
It's not about "trauma" or some bullshit like that. It's about supernatural forces prevailing against hapless humanity. Same reason you can't win in Observer. Every ending is the evil digital demon Adam winning and you losing your body.
>He's responsible because he chose to let The Child Eater take him over
Except the game excuses him all the way through and paints him as a victim
>a girl making a deal with a demon
>manipulated to become the Witch's servant
>It's not about "trauma" or some bullshit like that
Holy shit how are you so moronic to take the stories literally. You think James defeated Pyramid Head because he shot really really fast?
>You think James defeated Pyramid Head because he shot really really fast?
You know it b***h.
>Except the game excuses him all the way through and paints him as a victim
No it doesn't.
>Holy shit how are you so moronic to take the stories literally.
I hate to break it to you, but Bloober's games are basically either allegories about how communism is the most evil thing on Earth, or not an allegory at all. For example, in the Layers of Fear games the big twist is that there's a creature called the Rat Queen who locks you in a time loop so she can feed off your suffering. There's no metaphor, anymore than a dude under your desk sucking your dick is a metaphor. It's just a dude sucking your dick.
I'm kind of amazed that people can play multiple Bloober games in a row where the big reveal is that the main character isn't actually mentally ill (because mental illness is fake liberal bullshit as far as a lot of Poles are concerned) but is being tricked by an evil spirit of some kind.
Wait one minute. Are you seriously arguing that the Witch in Blair Witch isn't real despite the multiple film sequels making it explicitly, unambiguously clear that she is a real being? Do you also think that the titular Predator in the film Predator 2 is not real and/or shouldn't be taken literally?
>You think James defeated Pyramid Head because he shot really really fast?
Silent Hill is psychological horror. Bloober's games are superficially psychological horror except the twist is always that you're being gaslit or whatever. The Medium is about as much psychological horror as The Thing is.
t. The Town Was Making Him Stupid man
Are you by any chance a Bobvids fan or a moronera user? Because your arguments are almost word for word those used by idiots like Bobvids, Voidburger, etc. Every line is impressively wrong.
I don't know how many times a company can pull an ending that feature a character choosing death because their past traumas are causing them to hurt others is too much but twice is already dangerously feeling like too much. Also Blair Witch fricking SUCKED.
>I don't know how many times a company can pull an ending that feature a character choosing death because their past traumas are causing them to hurt others
Name a single case where this is true. It's not true for Layers of Fear, BTW. Layers of Fear is about the Rat Queen tormenting the characters into thinking they're crazy. It's all theatrics. LoF2 is super explicit about it. When you do things she doesn't want you to do, she's like "frick this" and resets the time loop so you'll make the choices she wants. The characters talk about "madness", but it's really just supernatural manipulation. It's not mental illness or problems that can be solved with drugs or therapy.
Go to sleep Peter, your studio blows
>when Medium comes out everyone and their mom gets they're trying to donutsteel Silent Hill
>Konami takes the bait
>some people somehow think these devs are good or even remotely talented after artistic blunders like Layers of Fear or Layers of Fear: Dog Edition
We'll have to see incessant shilling and baiting for this new garbage for years just like Demon's Souls. Can't wait (read: kill me)
>>when Medium comes out everyone and their mom gets they're trying to donutsteel Silent Hill
The Medium isn't really like Silent Hill. It has some homages, but they were working on SH at the same time as The Medium.
Wait a minute that card
See all the anons not noticing this shit in this bread? Remember who is here.
Imagine if Remedy worked on silent hill
Can we get an edit of sh2 James looking in the mirror to see remake James? I get Spider-Man vibes from that part in the trailer.
I think some people are conflating Bloober's games with the Silent Hill games despite them being nothing alike. For example, if Bloober made SH2, like a Bloober title, the twist would be that Mary choked on a raisin and James feels guilty, and this evil spirit called Red Pyramid Thing is trying to weaken his mind by making him think that he was responsible, and a bad husband, and unfaithful with teenage b***hes. But it's all a lie. James loses to the spirit, though, because Polish fatalism. Same reason Cyberpunk 2077 has no "good" endings.
The SH2/RE4 Gankeroomer elitists are the most annoying people on the planet.
>AKCHUALLY *THIS* IS WHAT THE OG DEVELOPERS HAD IN MIND, YOU ARE HECKIN RUINING THE ARTISTRY AND MESSAGES
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY INTENDED
God you guys never shut the frick up. You have no idea what you are talking about. And I'm gonna have to watch this shitshow until March
Bloober team lack the elegance and grace that the original game had, you'd have to be an idiot not to recognise that. Just take a look at that scene with James and the noose, in the remake he looks like a toddler who's just been caught stealing cookies from the cookie jar. Whereas in the original James looked like he was genuinely considering suicide, or at least reflecting on the idea.
And don't post Pathologic 2 ever again you fricking dunce.
>Bloober team lack the elegance and grace that the original game had, you'd have to be an idiot not to recognise that. Just take a look at that scene with James and the noose, in the remake he looks like a toddler who's just been caught stealing cookies from the cookie jar. Whereas in the original James looked like he was genuinely considering suicide, or at least reflecting on the idea.
Anon, a lot of the artistic shifts in SH2R are coming from Konami. They talked to Gans, and were inspired by his vision of Silent Hill. One of Bloober's most famous games consists of Rutger Hauer mumbling in a monotone for 7 hours.
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They are literally cautiously working together with the people who made SH2 so good, this contrarian pessimistic behavior is too much even for me.
You can say whatever you want, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if they're being 'cautious' or working with the same people who worked on the original, it's all meaningless when I can see the result and I can see that it looks like SHIT.
Look at this. Look at it and tell me it stands up to the original and isn't something a teenage emo would do if tasked with remaking SH2.
At this rate they'll change it so that we'll see Angela kill herself with that knife of hers, bet James will actually give it back to her like she asks and then she'll slit her wrists and it will be so HAUNTING.
More anons who pay no attention to the pedo symbol
>aaaaaa thing looks like thing so they're the same thing save me Black personman
Americanos were a mistake
Your meds are ready sir
>I-literally-can't-stop-talking-about-myself-and-jerking-myself-off-while-exploiting-my-team's-superior-coding-skill-Kojima
>innovating anything
You will never be a movie director
And you will never be anything but a loser on 4chin. Kojima won and you lost lmao
It's a teaser, relax. You'll know if it worked or not when you're actually walking around the town. Don't you know that by now?
I can already see how unoptimized it is on launch.
It's going to be a shitshow.
There are other horror studios, and Konami has them making spinoff games. Very few studios can deliver a Silent Hill 2 remake on a moderate budget, or even ship it at all. Bloober get shit done. Do you guys have any idea how long it took to get Routine made? Like a decade. Konami can't wait that long. Bloober signed a deal to deliver an SH2 remake by 2023, and they're delivering on that. With style. Their work is frankly more artistically impressive than Dead Space Remake. That is pretty bland and lacks personality.
>that logo
Are they going to try to insert some comet pizza type shit in there
based. These guys are hacks that tricks people by buying their walking sims with cool trailers (Blair Witch, Layers of Fear etc)
>What is Tencent
well they are talented to rip off other games, but yeah terrible idea once again to give silent hill for western team
Did I get filtered by Medium? Or is it really just so utterly boring like I found it to be.
I least made it trough Scorn for fricks sake, Medium I dropped before an hour had clocked in.
scorn and medium do share a lot of issues
scorn puzzles are not as moronic though so that helps I guess otherwise both of their gameplays suck
I lasted more than an hour but yes it's a boring slog
Why are the polish making some many video games now days?
Slavs the last remaining group that haven't been corrupted by outside propaganda yet
You forgot Albanians. When albanians make a survival horror game homies gonna take notice
Poland produces disappropriate amount of IT professionals, not just in gamedev
I just dont think you people even know what you want. You are ALWAYS complaining. No matter who is making it, how its made, what it looks like, if it changes things (or doesnt change anything), and so on. Literally what do you want? I understand the meme of Ganker isnt one person but I mean come on man.
I think even if it was actually literally a perfect recreation of the game in every single way but better graphics you would all still whine
People just want to relive dopaminergic highs that are gone forever. Especially if they're sexless, since sex havers create new memories constantly, and I don't mean just sexually. They thicken time. Except for the blue boards, Ganker out of all them is motivated the most by fear of the grave/terminal loserdom.
Shut the frick up. If it looked good, then it wouldn't look how it currently does.
I think the RE4 remake looks generally fine, I even like how the Dead Space remake is coming along. But this looks like shit to me, it's a complete butchery in my eyes. That's what I think and you can think it looks fine but I don't want your whiny
>WAAHHHHH YOU PEOPLE ALWAYS COMPLAIN WAAAHHHHH
>Literally what do you want?
I'd like one, preferably both these things:
A straight port of the original with minor tweaks and improvements like the Enhanced Edition mod, purely for preservation sake.
A remake headlined by key creative members of the original team. Yes, I know Ito and Yamaoka are involved but I'd like to have the original director, writer, environment artist, etc. on the team as well. Games are a product of their time and it'd be interesting to see how the original creatives behind SH2 would've handled it 20+ years after the fact.
literally who