I don't understand. I've been playing this for 60 hours and all I can do is eat shit and die ever since I got access to the crusade. I fundamentally don't understand the game. I constantly face characters who I cannot hit with anything but crits, and I can't even use any kind of strategy beyond that because my spells also don't hit them, or if they do, it's for 8 damage on a 217 hp enemy. I think I've landed one (1) single dispel for the entire duration of the game, and believe you me, I've been trying to use dispells liberally.
I don't get it. I just want to stop missing, but no matter how many buffs I use I constantly find enemies I cannot hit. What the fuck am I doing wrong?
This motherfucker for instance
>Gets up, casts mirror image with 10+ images
>Attacks my character 7-8 times in a single turn killing my characters instantly
>Refuses to elaborate
post build. sounds like a lack of game knowledge tbh. Use buffs.
Also my build is shit, but that doesn't change the fact that all my other characters need crits to hit too, and I auto-built them, so there you go. I'm playing on normal difficulty, so I'd assume that'd be somewhat usable. I also have no idea how to post my build, how the fuck do I do that?
show character sheet tab, that shows attributes, feats, etc.
Never used the auto-build function before so I have no idea if its any good but I remember in kingmaker they took less than sub-optimal choices tbh
I didn't auto-build my character, you shit-for-brains animal. The game has a million skills and systems going on, I'm going to autobuild the other characters because
1. I'm not good enough to even know what choices are good
2. It's simply overwhelming having to consider builds for 5 classes at the same time when it's my first time playing the game.
have a nice day.
For what purpose
Because it's fucking cool. I like witches, and I wanted to play a rogue who uses light casting to help him get what he wants.
Little did I know I can't actually hit any enemies with my spells because my DCs are lower than the average of the enemies' wills I encounter, so it's literally unusable. I still use some stuff like invis, blur, etc, so it's not completely useless, but it's pretty useless.
I'm playing on the default difficulty.
I literally don't want to follow build guides. If I can't beat the game on normal with the default kit they give my companions then I'll just consider myself filtered and move on to another game.
I think my problem is that I'm way out of my depth. Like the guy in the OP is level 19, and I'm level 10. My question is, how the fuck am I supposed to know what I should be doing in order to at least have a chance of not dying? I guess there's always trial and error, but that just feels like shit.
>I literally don't want to follow build guides. If I can't beat the game on normal with the default kit they give my companions then I'll just consider myself filtered and move on to another game.
afaik, you can beat the game using the auto-level option for the companions but making decent decisions/choices with you character on normal difficulty. also, this game is kinda of a trial and error so, be prepared for some loadings after dying in certain encounters and try to buff frequently.
put critical on WEAK, and DAMAGE to 0.8 to make combat less frustrating.
>Because it's fucking cool. I like witches, and I wanted to play a rogue who uses light casting to help him get what he wants.
>Little did I know I can't actually hit any enemies with my spells because my DCs are lower than the average of the enemies' wills I encounter, so it's literally unusable.
Well, now you know. Pathfinder is a very specific game, and it requires very specific choices. This isn't Skyrim where enemies scale to your level and whatever you want to use is balanced to be fine. No, this is an RPG where lots of things that you CAN do, are completely trap options that either don't work or have no practical viability.
This is an RPG where if you are a level 20 Fighter, the best thing you will ever be able to do in combat is move towards an enemy and use your Attack action, and that's literally it because you have nothing else. Meanwhile the level 20 Wizard is flying around the arena casting Mass Death Fog and raining meteors down on the battlefield while being invisible, having 10 clones of himself, and being buffed out the ass. And both of these dudes are supposed to be the same power level.
Again, welcome to Pathfinder. You fucked up. Either respec and try again, or complain that it should work the way you think it should work.
>Pathfinder is a very specific game, and it requires very specific choices.
>but making decent decisions/choices with you character on normal difficulty.
See, this is cool and all, and I'd totally be ok with it if this was the case, but my problem is that NONE
of my characters hit any of their spells or attacks. Am I supposed to just be carrying everyone on my back if I minmax?
Let me be 200% clear: I ENJOY games where you can just fuck up the build and have to start over. This just doesn't seem to be the case in this situation.
Then youre building them badly. Post your characters.
He's used the prebuild options anon. They aren't going to be hitting shit against the optional dudes unless he knows about team smite.
>Because it's fucking cool.
Anon, stick to PnP if you want cool.
These games (especially PotW) is about minmaxing and cheesing the game to fucking death. Turn the difficulty down if you don't want to deal with this.
I suggest actually finding a pathfinder (2nd edition) group to play with if you want "fucking cool". I understand, I love Witches. I love Rogues. I love the idea of being a fucking evil backstabbing asshole, but this video game is not the place to really express it.
>having this much trouble on easy mode: the easy mode difficultly
just go play candy crush or something
>Because it's fucking cool. I like witches, and I wanted to play a rogue who uses light casting to help him get what he wants.
Anon, there is literally an archetype for the rogue witch, Sylvan Trickster. Instead, you just randomly mixed two classes.
The prebuilt guys are fine, just keep their roles in mind whenever you make your parties. Your dude in the other hand has a huge problem with his multiclass, rogues will have a hard time hitting as is, and getting level in Witch serves them zero purpose so you end up spreading your talents two completely opposite ways without any way to make them benefit from each other. Also don't take weapon focus for more than one thing ever unless you're doing something extremely specific.
Arcane casters are extremely important and since witches are debuff focused, you lose out on some of the best spells. Either Nenio or Woljif will help in that area, Ember should either debuff or blast with some fire spells, Sosiel in your OP is another extremely useful buffer. As a rule of thumb, always keep the hours/long and 10 minutes/level buffs on, everything else whenever you find a tough encounter. Have your guys flank, try to use crowd control spells strategically if you can, don't just blast, etc.
If all else fails, lower the difficulty (and no, you shouldn't play on Core for the first time around. Normal is intended for first time players)
bless you anon you tried
>I'm not good enough to even know what choices are good
Found your problem, bruv. Pathfinder is pretty dependent on your ability to pick the good character options from the bad. If you don't know the system, you need to start on a lower difficulty.
Actual suggestion because 90% of what you are getting are people laughing at you. Don't fuck around with combining classes until you know what you are doing there's a guy called Hilor that hangs out in the Drezen tavern that will let you respec your characters go to him and turn your Gnome into a Sylvan Trickster (Rogue that gets to take witch hexes). Next at level 4 with the Rogue you got an ability called "Finesse Training" that your character took with a dagger, that choice needs to be claws or whatever other weapon you plan on using my advice would be do the daggers then have your character use Daggers because there's a ton of good ones in the game and you only ever get 2 attacks with Claws which is great til you notice your other characters have 4+ attacks. Next you need to sort your feats better, never take accomplished sneak attacker, deft hands, or mythic sneak attacker and only take multiple weapon focuses if your character uses multiple different weapons what you want instead are Double Slice, Improved 2 weapon fighting, Critical Focus, and for the Mythic something like Wandering Hex.
>and I auto-built them,
why the fuck are you even playing this genre of games if you skip one of the most important aspects of it you dumb retard
They should just rename the genre from role playing game to character sheet creating game.
and if they did, you would still complain
>buys sheet creating game
>WTF i have to create sheets?
No I would not complain because I would not be trying to play them. I'd go and play games about roleplaying which I suppose today are called text adventures and possibly imerssive sims
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STOP PLAYING ON UNFAIR YOU FUCKING IDIOT
Let me help you out if you have never experience Pathfinder at high level:
Yes, literally every enemy in the game has stats making it basically impossible to hit them unless you yourself are buffing your own stats to absurd levels. Sorry, it's just the way it is. Enemies have 35-50AC, so unless you have maxed out your own attack bonuses and roll high, you're not even coming close. Also, the same is true for their Spell Resistance, CMD, and saves. Also, every enemy you meet auto-buffs with a full set of combat defense and stat buffs on combat start. It's just part of the way the game is programmed.
Congrats. Enjoy having to look up cheesy or broken builds and making sure you're full buffed out the ass for every single fight, and still savescumming anyway. Welcome to Pathfinder.
Sir this is an actual roleplaying game, if your character sheet is shit, then no matter what choices you make narratively or mechanically during combat, you are gonna eat shit.
Play some easier DnD-like game such as KOTOR first or switch genres entirely.
Just follow cRPGBro builds and you can roflstomp every single enemy and boss. Also, go for Angel on first playthrough because Angel is fucking strong and kino (story wise).
In Baldurs Gate there's spells to remove illusions, try that
OP really, really loves BBC
Haste, Heroism and True Seeing should be enough at your difficulty, what companions are you using. Did you kill the ghosts outside? They give 10k exp each
The ghosts outside were annoying as fuck. I couldn't hit them at all, and all they did was tank my con to the point I just had to rest between each of them. Of course they also have insane attack, so all they had to do was roll a 2+ to hit my literal buffed 33 AC tank. I didn't notice they gave that much exp, though.
>Haste, Heroism and True Seeing
I'll look into these. I just got True seeing recently, and it sounds really good.
>These games (especially PotW) is about minmaxing and cheesing the game to fucking death.
I just wasn't expecting that to be the case on normal difficulty, is all. I still am very convinced I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, though, like not build wise, but rather some mechanic I'm completely missing because I'm clinically retarded.
Put Death Ward on everyone and the ghosts can't actually damage you because it blocks negative energy and that's all they do, Ember and Daeran can learn it but if you haven't gave it to them Sosiel will always know it. There's 7 in total, it's a good way to get an easy level. Haste is godtier spell, always have it active especially for tough fights, True Seeing will let you attack through his Mirror Image and Displacement, Displacement itself is also a good buff you can give your melees because it'll give a flat 50% miss chance for enemies unless they have some sort of true seeing themselves which they shouldn't this early I think
>Put Death Ward
Fuck me, you're right. It says it right there...
There's so much shit in this game it's easy to forgive not knowing about it until you're told, just generally consider if you're having a problem with something there's a spell/ability specifically to counter it, the more you play the more you'll learn. Also the ghosts do have a few regular spells but they shouldn't cause a wipe and they will eventually run out and stick to melee
>There's so much shit in this game it's easy to forgive not knowing about it until you're told,
Or you just learn to read.
You're right. Too bad it still doesn't solve the everyone missing problem.
From the op picture, only Seelah and Wenduag will be even close to hitting without buffs. Your rogue is fucked because of the multiclass and Camellia alongside Sosiel have medium BAB progression, use Haste and Heroism to get more attacks and increase the attack bonus, Greater Magic weapon as well if yours haven't been upgraded in a while, and make sure whatever belts they have on actually match the stats they need.
I didn't even notice, are they all cursed, that's what that icon is right
No clue, judging from what I can make out in the image:
The bros with the bloody portraits are in death's door, meaning that if they die in battle again they die for real and you have to revive them. Camellia is blind which certainly lowers your fucking chances to actually hit, have to cure that with a specific cleric spell so have Sosiel prepare that. The last one with the hunched back and red background means your characters are probably cursed or stat drained, either reduce your stats severely which also lowers you chances to hit, so heal that too.
I'm using the demon claws, and I have +15 to hit while wenduag has +17. When it feels like literally anyone in the party can hit, I feel like I can hit as well.
The druid can summon a bunch of shit, including bears, skeletons, manticores, etc. But most of the classes I have right now can summon including me
It's the corruption thing.
That's even worse, I've never even had corruption go above level 1
It is level 1.
Every class, every feat, every spell? You can't deny the game has a lot of depth which equals a lot of reading, not everyone wants to do that, especially when there are just as many actually literally useless feats/spells
That's an easy fight, I did it by throwing bombs everywhere and sniping his dragon
thing about RTWP is you have to actually pause
one thing thats bad about videogame D&D is it unironically is more tedious to buff, in P&P you can just say to the dm "we take X time and buff up with the usual"
in videogame you have to actually do it
anyways buff up, dispel magic on people like this fuck if u have to, etc
Welcome to an actual RPG, anon. Your choices matter.
filtered lol. just acknowledge the fact you're too stupid to play this game.
Alright anon here we go
1. This guy is bullshit for level 10
2. Premade is shit. The people telling you they aren't are idiots. Specifically, Premade is fine for 90% of the game but that 10% you choke on. Get the fuck out of there for awhile.
3. Look up guides, respect your starting guys and build accordingly. They just have to be passable.
4. For this guy, come back when you have communal true sight or just true sight to pass around. Touch spells for the dragon. The rest are chaff.
5. Blackwater is worse than this. Stay the fuck away until you are all but done. Just trust me
Also, specifically for your build of a "rogue but spells but I really wanna hit things". 12 levels in sword saint. 8 or so in duelist. Right off the bat you can be ignoring dex AC with prescient attack and by level 12 you can ignore armor AC too. +20 to hit early game with truestrike as a quick action.
He's on normal, you can fuck up your build and still get by just from level increases and buffs
Summons are crap in Wrath, maybe passable in Kingmaker, just don't expect to summon them and have them clear everything for you
No. You can't. I literally just played through normal to see for myself and while 90% is fine, shit like this is a nightmare.
Buffffags seem to think that the party is packing a BFT, Skaal, and Hearth Cleric at all times. Your DPS is going to be a fucking slayer with 40 movespeed and 25 AC. He's going to hit on 18 and up after buffing on the fleshmarket meatball. Thats just how it is.
I've beat it on hard only using Hearth out of the ones you listed, I mean if your guy only has 25 ac at act 4 you're doing something wrong, Seelah has that at the beginning
What do you mean "I'm doing something wrong". That's Greybors natural progression route. His base AC is 25. Fully buffed with equipment with what you have might hover around 40. It might as well be 4 at that point going into the threshold. IDK maybe I can turn greybor into a bear or something but clearly thats not going to work against a stormcaller.
My original character I made with no idea of what I was doing, just aping a friends build from an old campaign is sitting at fucking 52 before defensive and crane style kick in, 0 buffs. +10 more to hit than Greybor. Casts spells. Thats all pre buff too.
Well you said 25 so that's what I thought, to be fair Greybor shouldn't be the one getting attacked in the first place, it's like complaining Ember gets bodied when she's attacked
Yeah but he's a frontliner whose going to take some licks and she's a burst caster. The point is he does nothing and my OC donut is outdamaging him. Out tanking him. Casts fucking spells.
That webm is great but all the work there is your kineticist, divine smite, and his slow ass start up time when he's flatfooted. Granted, team smite is something I was shackled to like a pig on a teat my first playthrough.
Anyway, here was how I handled it my first time around. I was using dogs because I was running out of my other summons.
Keep in mind I'd usually Dispel him, I bet that'd take a good 15 AC off him and you always have access to Mark of Justice if you're leveling Seelah as a paladin, which I assume the prebuilt does. For what it's worth the webm isn't even relevant to the original argument because I didn't just pick random feats, I still think you can get by on buffs and natural levels though. Also Cam was the one doing the work
I mean you can, because I did and it's just ugly. My point is that it's miserable, Seelah is great. Ember is great. Cam is good. Most of the rest either suck shit or are pidgeonholed.
Here I had a save near him, this is on normal, not using anything you listed just buffs you'll always have access to, sorry about the quality but you get the point
God I can't even imagine playing the game in real time mode.
Well, I can and I tried and it was fucking cancer.
It does become pretty brainless but I don't want every trash fight taking 5 minutes
Red pill me on being a wizard, can I summon an army of undead shit or bears or something or is it not possible? I know in the sequel there's a lich class but I want to do it in the base game too
Wizard is great as long as you can overcome the enemy resistance or rolls.
>oh boy time to cast my shiny new mega death spell!
>creature is immune
and then your fighter gets 5 attacks and rips the enemy a new asshole with a magic sword
You have to hyper focus on a few spells which is why sorcerer mogs wizard hard. If you want to be a Diablo 2 necromancer or sorceress forget it. Buffs are king and will be the difference between a cakewalk and a party wipe.
A caster can fill the whole screen with summons, if you wish. They are usually only good as a meat shield, but it's a damn good meat shield.
Many classes have a pet. Unlike summons, pet is incredibly strong in combat in both games.
The lich in wrath has a pet skeleton, undead party of risen NPCs, and can reanimate a squad of strong monsters you killed. Azata gets a dragon e-boi as an extra pet. Also, you can mount most pets, which pretty much allows any character to turn into a tank.
What game is this
pathfinder: wrath of the righteous
1664712909449356.png is one of my favorite games! Don't talk bad about it!
As soon as i got to act 3 and it started telling me i was going to have to make buildings in each of my forts with upkeep on top of managing the armies i dropped it i didnt sign up to play sim city. Wtf are they thinking?
you can put that stuff on automatic in the difficulty option
My biggest problem with it is the way time passes.
>Get belt that Spawns Spiders when an ally is downed.
>Get Summon Wand
>Have an endless army of meatshield spiders to take all agro.
>mfw OP meets Playful Darkness
I'd be surprised if he beat the Water Elemental.
>if you don't want to take Lich mythic path, kill the Lich in chapter 2 for extra XP
>in Dresen's castle, there's some cultist summoning a demon, let em finish and kill the demon for extra XP
>Do Green Gates and Molten Scar quest first at the start of chapter 3
>always buff before fighting (Heroism, Displacement, Haste, etc)
>kill the bug demon boss in the cave (Tank up front, sneak attacker support, rangers and magicians from afar, healer recharging the tank
>use turn mode if it's to hard
>complete the zomby bear quest in the nearby forest and the rune perception checks in wintersun for extra XP
>you should have enough level for an easy fight now
>kill the dragon first before he gets a chance to buff out
>use Nenio with fire/dispel scrolls and illusion debuff AOEs
>have Ember Hellfire and Evil Eye Hex everyone to death
>Seelah is the best tank, buff her up with potions and falce life spell/scroll
>keep all sneak attackers with greater invisibility
>bring archers for their high accuracy
>use true sight to see through illusion spells
>use animate death, grease, pit spells to slow down mobs if necessary
>focus all party attack on one enemy at the time to reduce their numbers faster, leave the boss for last
its an rpg. If you got stuck just go lvl up then come back
soulscuck mentality of bashing your head against a brick wall has made an entire generation of retards
>Traveling, minding my own business
>Not even that far from Drezen
>Dragon shows up
>Insta kills 3 characters
>Flies away after a while
I just don't get the joke, my dudes.
Protection from Fire or just run to the edge of the map, yes it's retarded, hope you get a good initiative roll
That's the dragon your meant to kill with Greybor for his quest, its meant to do that so you don't forget about him and will keep doing that till you do it.
Funny thing is, I was on my way to do that and I reloaded and now I'm not going there because now I just think it's just going to be another "only hit on 20" episode.
Dragon should be first honestly, but yes she is another buff-fest
So this pretty much sums my experience. This is the first attack she did to me, and I had communal energy resistance to fire up.
Is this a joke? How is this a matter of building my character better?
You want the next level, Protection from Energy (Fire) not Resist Energy (Fire), that's 12 points of damage per level as opposed to a flat 10 reduction
If someone even attacks Ember you already lost.
Like, dude, she dies anyway with one hit so it's not even an issue with build.
If you only hit on twenty, make sure you get lots of hits on twenty.
Dogshit way to play the game. Might as well be doing something productive at that point, but yes, that's pretty much how I've been handling it.
Git gud, anon.
What I love about this art from MM7 is that none of the characters are more prominent than the other. Even though the chick is placed directly center, she doesn't stand out more than the dwarf or the fighter
>Kill absolutely everything between Kenabres and Drezen
>Level 9 without fucking with exp settings
>Nenio gets to roll in with 5th level spells and one shot enemies
Feels good to play properly.
They knew what they were doing making the most annoying character the most useful
She has autism in a system designed for autists. Of course she's strong.
I bought the game on sale and I was hoping for a thread like this
>like wizard, pick wizard
>have to choose TWO dump schools if you specialise
>generalist gets force throw as their skill, a million uses but it’s damage scales off strength
>touch attacks use strength
>ranged spell attacks use dex
So hold on, I need strength and dex and con and int? But I don’t want to dump wisdom for skill bonuses and will saves. I also should not be a giant autismo if I’m going to rule a kingdom do I want charisma and persuasion?
How do I wizard?
make lawful good wizard and dip into 2 lvl of paladin, say goodbye to all saves
You don't want strength as a wizard, I'm sure there's some build for throw weapon but you're honestly better not going universalist,you can either go blaster if you want damage or disabler if you want to fuck the enemy up so they can't do shit, just stack Int, fuck Con you shouldn't be getting hit anyways, buff Dex, spare points for Wis
Try going either 18 int or 20 int (at cost of other stats) and then something like 14 or 16 dex and fill out the rest of the stats on even numbers. The MC doesn't actually need charisma and persuasion at all because any checks can be done by a party member thats with you currently. You could ungabunga the kingdom with 7 int 7 charisma perfectly fine
Ignore the people telling you not to pump iron as a wizard, the end goal of wizarding is to cast permanent dragonkind 3 and roll into people with your 60 strength chad. It's not only possible you can do it in act 4.
switch to sorcerer they use charisma instead of int, as for dex and str you don't need it you have a lvl 1 spell that gives you +20 attack bonus.
anon is wrong, Kingmaker has a few MC-only persuasion checks. Some of them are rather high for a non-focused class, but leveling this skill for both MC and the party CHAd is beneficial nonetheless.
I think theres like, 1- checks at the very most? Just bump up persuade through charisma items/buffs, persuade items and skillpoints if you got enough, cant remember these checks being that vital
1-3 checks* i cant type
Only one I can think of is getting Ekun's better ending
Just play on story difficulty.
Enemies literally can't kill you.
If you play above one of the easier difficulty levels then it no longer follows the rules of Pathfinder and is instead designed purely for min-max build autism.
I remember playing Lich in the beta wtf they actually nerfed repurpose
I'm going to let you in on a secret, OP:
The Owlcat RPGs are dogshit for autists on par with EVE spreadsheet turbospergs unless you play on the easiest difficult.
bravo, you just realized you've been wasting time playing this moron ass of a game. Too bad it took you 60 hrs, I knew that after the first few hours this game is a steamy turd.