I dont understand why the Golden Order is bad.

I don’t understand why the Golden Order is bad. Everybody says its killing the land and its citizens and is imperfect but how?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it don't matter, man. none of this matters

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/it%20don%27t%20matter%2C%20man.%20none%20of%20this%20matters/

      shut the frick up homosexual attentionprostitute

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/it%20don%27t%20matter%2C%20man.%20none%20of%20this%20matters/

      shut the frick up homosexual attentionprostitute

      Is this a bot or what? That's insane because they've been at this for like 12 hours straight, gotta be a bot or someone with autism and nothing better to do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe but some lurkers here are just extremely mentally unwell and autistic. Without any meaningful social interaction they go insane and do weird shit on here for attention. I called out some moron for samegay liking his own shitty effortpost the other day and he went full moron meltdown and samegayged over 100 posts to kill the thread as fast as possible. Lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This would happen constantly on /k/ during the early days of Putin's Special Adventure. We would get these long, rambling, redditspaced posts about how this was all the fault of Trump and Republicans who would surely kill themselves en masse who were all taking secret loyalty oaths to Putin, and then he would samegay a bunch of times with very generic "wow that's interesting I never thought of that but it sounds plausible tell me more" stuff, and if anyone called him a gay moron for being pro-Biden on a gun board he would have meltdowns and spam AI generated pictures of Trump and poop.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was over on /k/ during the early days of that. Shit was wild back then. I've noticed now a new trend of special attention prostitutes across various boards who instead of just tripgayging, try to "namedrop" and samegay themselves into being some sort of board celebrity or some shit. They call themselves out in 3rd person and then just samegay respond to themselves to seem like other people talking about them

            >/k/ has Armatard/warriortard, associated with spamming about the Warrior IFV (often called fartsniffer)
            >/b/ has Animaterman, a guy who dresses like a literal clown and is always forcing the Andy Sixx suck a log of shit trash meme.
            >Ganker has some gay named Dragonirian, associated with Fromsoft/souls games. Only appears in posts noted to make fun of him.

            Fricking weirdos man...

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I noticed that too for a while now. The moment that sockpuppet samegayging shit starts to pop up in the threads, I'd steer clear immediately.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody can die truly unless Marika or someone higher wills it. Theres very, very low birthrates as stated by the Pickled Turtle Neck recipe. The GO has assassins that go out to other lands and coerce people to follow their rules and code. They have been apart of multiple cultural and humanoid genocides like the Fire Giants and other people groups that were worshipping pre Erdtree deities or beings. That is proven further by SOTE's cutscene showing Messmer murdering pre Erdtree civilization. Gods also aren't infallible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And what exactly is wrong with any of this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the golden order are heckin' colonizers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody can die truly unless Marika or someone higher wills it.
      Do we outrank Marika?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do as a male

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Theres very, very low birthrates as stated by the Pickled Turtle Neck recipe. The GO has assassins that go out to other lands and coerce people to follow their rules and code. They have been apart of multiple cultural and humanoid genocides like the Fire Giants and other people groups that were worshipping pre Erdtree deities or beings. That is proven further by SOTE's cutscene showing Messmer murdering pre Erdtree civilization. Gods also aren't infallible.

      Nomadic Warrior's Cookbook (3)
      A record of crafting techniques left by roaming nomad warriors.
      Contains knowledge for surviving in the face of utter scarcity.
      Acquire the knowledge to craft the following:
      - Pickled Turtle Neck
      - Poisonbone Arrow
      - Poisonbone Arrow (Fletched)
      - Poisonbone Bolt

      Pickled Turtle Neck
      Turtle neck meat, pickled in a bitter medicinal solution.
      Craftable item.
      Temporarily boosts stamina recovery.
      The nutrients churn through the body,
      practically boiling out endless power.

      ???

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So basically what im gathering from this is that you can frick the pickled turtle neck. Like a medieval onahole.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is AI, someone asking gpt to write complete bullshit

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Le athiesm is good, god bad
    Rise up, kill god, and sit upon a hollow throne to waste away in a dead world cut off from the divine you dirty tarnished peasant. Pretty much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the elden beast isn’t the GW tho, the GW hasn’t gone anywhere and is fine with pretty much all endings, including Dung and Ranni…probably
      reminder: the GW does not give a FRICK about Marika OR the golden order

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you going on about the Greater Will when OP is asking about the Golden Order? I didn't mention GW anywhere in my post...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I assumed that when you said “God” you were referring to the Abrahamic God and thus its closest comparison in game the GW. Having Marika be God in your post doesn’t make sense as killing Marika doesn’t cut off their connection to the divine
          gomen anon, I do not know what your post means now

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kill god, become Elden Lord. Pretty simple really. You're overthinking it with the Eldritch being outer influence stuff.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The elden beast is a "god" not big G God, and killing it doesn't end religion, not even specifically the golden order. The only athiesm ending is Ranni's ending, where she literally takes spirituality away from the planet specifically so that religion can no longer have an objective basis.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This feels like you're arguing semantics. Like saying Jesus is god but not "big G God". Either way, people beat the game and think they killed God so I take that for what it is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody but you beat the game and went "oh it's an athiest ending" other than the ranni quest and ending.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ranni quest
                Ranni and her dark moon are still going to be fricking with the lands between, just secretly and from afar
                And you'd have to be crazy to think things are going to be peaceful with people and the various other races suddenly being left in a power vacuum

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                at least you won't bave braindead apes going "oh my gold" every other second

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zanzibart.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The current golden order is a cargo cult that worships a big tree and a dead woman. Because they are multiple steps removed from their actual god, they come up with all sorts of dumb ideas and rules, which are not only arbitrary and cruel, but in fact self destructive and counter productive. It is a pretty explicit analogy to the orthadox theological moronation of the late byzantine empire, and simultanious brazen corruption of the catholic church in the late middle ages.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the lore in this game is not interesting. It's just a bunch of weird excuses for cool imagery. You're just playing in a really neat painting that doesn't mean anything. oh radagon is marika oh that's crazy man. Become lord of this land by killing everyone that stands in your way is enough kino for me.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same as Dark Souls, people just hate them because they're the status quo
    Everybody who took the Dark ending in that game acts like that's the "good" ending and conveniently forgets what a shitshow both Oolacile and New Londo turned into
    Same as Chaosgays and Elden Ring

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've sided with Kaathe but not once did I not feel like an evil fricker from doing so. He pops out of a bleak, abyss, looks like a monstrosity and encourages you to steal humanity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're the only one I've ever met and I'm grateful for you

        DS3 recontextualized the age of dark for better or for worse.

        I still don't really understand 3 but I'm too moronic to deal with time travel. Even so, that's an attitude I saw long before even Dark Souls 2 came out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Essentially, by DS3 it's spelled out that the first flame is literally burning away the whole world after eons of being linked again and again, and it needs to be snuffed out no matter how scary the dark is. But, DS1's dark wraith ending is still very bad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought letting the flame naturally fade is different from letting Hollows take over, Hollows led by and manipulated by Kaathe no less. The "good" ending is just letting nature finally take its course after maybe, millions of years of fricking with it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DS3 recontextualized the age of dark for better or for worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The thing is, DS3's age of dark is probably not DS1's hypothetical age of dark. DS1's age of dark was probably much closer to the Lord of Londor ending.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah yes Londor, what an upstanding group that is

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I meant that in a bad way. DS3's age of dark being good doesn't mean DS1's would be.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well the main difference between the DS1 age of dark and DS3's "firekeeper" ending is humanity. Because in DS3, the world is so fricked that the concept humanity has gone rampant. Represented by both the sinking dregs and the burnt embers. DS3's age of dark is closer to DS1's because of the dark sigils and usurping the fire and all that, the eclipse changes to resembles the sigils too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, the Abyss is inevitable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No need to rush it then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but if it was my shithole it would be a cool shithole.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen people say the dung eater ending is actually the good one because the original mortality is restored and the erdtree dies, basically the argument is you've restored the "natural order". completely disregarding the fact that everybody's soul is cursed, with no clarification of said curse. But because the ties between the crucible omen and dung eater, one can only assume everybody will become omen, so congrats you turned everybody into suffering abominations and filled the air with constant shit particles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A crucible ending likely would've had people gaining all sorts of animalistic traits since everything from the sheep to the lions to the shaman dudes in Siofra are regressing back to primordial forms. DE's is probably the most evil ending you can choose at least the Chaos flame melts everything in a relatively painless way (maybe). Being eternally cursed and then your bloodline is cursed is pure suffering.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I believe the interpretation is that omen didn't used to be so fricked up and savage, they were even revered as heavenly, like how biblical angels will have animal parts. So yeah while the crucible heals, the world will probably be a non stop savage PvP bloodbath, until hopefully a new better generation of omen will be born and take over and restore order. but that is 100% cherry picked fanon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're mixing Omen and Misbegotten again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Both are created due to the power of the crucible, to blend life, they're just different products of the same effect.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Misbegotten are devolution of Angels created by the Crucible. Some sort of great catastrophe akin to Lucifer's betrayal cast them all down from their original role. Whilst the Golden Order would liken it to some great sin, the truth is that the angels probably discovered that the Crucible is merely a font connected to Chaos, the original matter which all life sprung forth. In Christianity, the highest realm of heavens is like that of an endless holy fire, and in Roman myth Chaos is the primordial realm which our reality is derive from. There's also Gnostic principles here, but they're definitely not as unique as people make them out to be. Also very easy to infer that the Erdtree is also an engine for Samsara.

            Forgot to mention that Omens are effectively the primordial beings Angels (Ancient Dragons) would evolve from, whereas the Misbegotten are an example made of the previous generation of Omen-ascendants.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Misbegotten are devolution of Angels created by the Crucible. Some sort of great catastrophe akin to Lucifer's betrayal cast them all down from their original role. Whilst the Golden Order would liken it to some great sin, the truth is that the angels probably discovered that the Crucible is merely a font connected to Chaos, the original matter which all life sprung forth. In Christianity, the highest realm of heavens is like that of an endless holy fire, and in Roman myth Chaos is the primordial realm which our reality is derive from. There's also Gnostic principles here, but they're definitely not as unique as people make them out to be. Also very easy to infer that the Erdtree is also an engine for Samsara.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If by Chaos you mean the Frenzied Flame, I doubt the crucible is such. I would however believe that it literally is or is the result of another outer god, a progenitor god responsible for creating all life from itself, much like how some religions believe we are all physically part of god and will return to it. Souls return to the erdtree thus they would have returned to the crucible, the erdtree is just a parasite.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Formless mother fits the bill best, no form because they are the currently occupied crucible. An outer god of blood is a bit weird, is blood a universal trait? It's more likely all life has blood because it's descended from the mother. Her support of Mohg who opposes the golden order makes sense, as the Erdtree is leeching from the Crucible.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Forgot to mention that Omens are effectively the primordial beings Angels (Ancient Dragons) would evolve from, whereas the Misbegotten are an example made of the previous generation of Omen-ascendants.

            You're giving way too much importance to Omens. They are cursed births that happen because multiple souls get shoved into one body. They manifest holy powers and ancestral traits due to this excess of souls. They are hunted down because they are a consequence of Marika removing Death from the Ring, thus shameful in the eyes of her Order.

            Both are created due to the power of the crucible, to blend life, they're just different products of the same effect.

            Similarly, Misbegotten were once esteemed due to their natural Cruciblistic traits, but became shunned as Marika moved the Order in an increasingly Human-first mentality.
            If there was a race of humanoids that existed before the GO society (which may be what we see in SotE), they were neither Omen nor Misbegotten.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Omens are people precipitated to The Crucible. The reason the Golden Order reviles them is because they are effectively evidence that individuals can manifest their own powers without The Erdtree, the same as what helped develop the society around The Crucible. This is why Leyndell tried to consolidate The Dragon Cult into their belief system, because they were fearful humans would rediscover ascendancy to Dragonhood making the Erdtree useless. It could still be said that Omens are stuffed with runic energy, but that just affirms the Erdtree is feeding off the Crucible. This would also explain how the Crucible is connected to the realm of Chaos, and why both the Erdtree and Chaos flame are represented by finger-digits.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's sort of like the unification of Japan. It was very bloody and some pretty nasty shit went down and the guys that won weren't saints exactly. But then afterward peasants were sorta better off in a lot of ways. Maybe.
    Unfortunately we can't really see what Godwyn's age was like, but knowing Miyazaki it had a pretty dark current to it.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Golden order is emblematic of stagnation. Think of it like the boomers who take up good jobs and leech resources and refuse to die and leavee anything to their offspring

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >emblematic of stagnation
      >constantly expanding and churning and pitting itself against various beasties and races
      >Marika explicitly tells her offspring that if they laze around they're dead to her (maybe literally)
      >she herself nukes it and turns the entire thing into survival of the fittest with even tarnished from abroad being compelled to return and throw in their lot
      It's almost the exact opposite, the GO needed to chill the frick out and just enjoy what they had, instead Marika did everything within her power to introduce turmoil and make the entire thing into a neverending tournament arc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was fresh and lively in its youth, but that was a very small period of GO history

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't ask questions just kill god

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The story of Elden Ring is about duality. White cannot exist without black. Light cannot exist without dark, order without chaos, life without death, etc. It is also the story of The Rebis or Divine Hermaphrodite(no this is not woke shit this is a concept in alchemy dating back to the 1600s). Basically it's a being broken down, purified, seperated into 2 opposite halves and then put back together.1 perfect being embodying 2 opposing concepts. The One Great possibly embodied this concept, Marika does currently, and Miquella seemingly plans to.

    Marika's problem, and by extension the Golden Order, is she wanted her cake and to eat it too. She wanted to be perfect without being whole. She disregarded a vital piece of herself and her order. The Rune of Death. The opposing force to her Rune of Life. I think she intended to compensate by making Radagon but he could never become a truely perfect being because he isn't really her opposing half.The reason why Radagon seems so obsessed with perfection is because he wants to fit the criteria for The Rebis. But it can never work because while they are indeed 2 separate beings with differences between them, they're not opposites.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rebis poster

      Tune out 100% the second this word shows up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Marika is a hermaphrodite
        >Miquella is a hermaphrodite
        >even Placidusax is a hermaphrodite(one of the heads is female)
        Radagon was most likely created through an alchemical process. The Nox are scientist that hail from the Numen and Marika was Numen. On the mountain tops, there's a cave guarded by a Magma Wyrm. Inside the cave is a red-haired Misbegotten holding Radagon's Holy Moonlight Sword. The red haired Misbegotten are possibly failed attempts to create Radagon. There is also a dragon incased in ice. Radagon's name is an anagram for "a dragon." The Rebis connection is not a coincidence

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Marika is a hermaphrodite
      >Miquella is a hermaphrodite
      >even Placidusax is a hermaphrodite(one of the heads is female)
      Radagon was most likely created through an alchemical process. The Nox are scientist that hail from the Numen and Marika was Numen. On the mountain tops, there's a cave guarded by a Magma Wyrm. Inside the cave is a red-haired Misbegotten holding Radagon's Holy Moonlight Sword. The red haired Misbegotten are possibly failed attempts to create Radagon. There is also a dragon incased in ice. Radagon's name is an anagram for "a dragon." The Rebis connection is not a coincidence

      Can we not do this with all the troony shit for just one more day...? Pride month starts tomorrow

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not troony shit tho. There's no modern messaging in Elden Ring

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          one could argue a lot of modern globalisttroonyhomosexual stuff is a direct descendent of ancient esotericism and heresies, they certainly love their symbology and mysticism. As above so below. Solv et coagula. I'd like to think the poster you replied to was just being ironic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was being ironic, but you're also not wrong either.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was being ironic, but you're also not wrong either.

            Yeah, I think that's all the male/female thing really is. Symbolism to better represent The Rebis. 2 opposing forces intrinsically dependent on one another.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their god is a w*man so it must be dysfunctional by default.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to remember that the basis for Elden Ring comes from GRRM, who's a hack. The underlying meta theme of Elden Ring is the downfall of the United States. Marika = America. The Golden Order = bible-thumping fundamentalists. The mistreatment of omen, Those Who Live in Death, Demi-Humans, and the like, is a parallel for racial tensions in the United States. The Golden Order subsuming everything is an analog for American imperialism absorbing, and suffocating other cultures, while war-mongering over their resources.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      low IQ profane Black person take

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know I'm right. Martin probably penned the outline for Elden Ring in the late 2010s, which was peak political hysteria in the United States. It'd be way more blatant and obvious if it wasn't then taken by face value by From Soft, who didn't read into the political messaging, and just thought this was GRRM's general idea for a story.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      high IQ enlightened truth speaker take

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What represents the israelites though? Is it the black flame wielding foreskin thieves? The unclean tarnished outcasts cut off from grace? The concept of destined death discarded by god xerself? Or just the humble Santa (Satan) hat wearing merchants trying to get at your shekels?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What represents the israelites though?
        are you serious?

        The literal merchants who cry about being persecuted and claim they were persecuted for trying to summon a chaos god which they claim wasnt true but they ended up doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually do think the idea of the golden order as "the big modern western empire" makes some sense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All GRRM did was write some vague lore describing a world and it's characters, inspired mostly by done to death nordic pagan stuff. FS just cherry picked whatever they wanted from that inserted it as fragments of far past lore to base the game on. Their games usually have a former fallen society of prosperity to contrast it's current era dark fantasy world of despair and melancholy, so the game was always going to have that. GRRM just provided the spark notes and themes for that. It was 100% just a marketing stunt.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bros, I hate media literacy pseuds and their made up homosexualry so god damn much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the basis for Elden Ring comes from GRRM
      source: my wiener (caged)
      Martin can't write for shit, the only thing he cares about is incest and cuckoldry.
      The only reason GoT ever got popular was because it was hardcore pornography on Netflix.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FromSoft games all have very distinct esoteric influences. Meaning nearly 0 youtubers are going to scratch the surface of the lore. They also have to be understood through a Japanese lens, as non-Christian Japanese people have a primitive understanding of God and the supernatural.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japanese lens
      Oh it's this fricking idiot again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as non-Christian Japanese people have a primitive understanding of God and the supernatural
      What is this weeb brainrot?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. golem of yahweh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing esoteric about Sekiro or AC6. Uncoincidentally they are also From's best stories by far

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sekiro is less esoteric than the others because it's a more traditional representation of Japanese myth, but there are still many underlying themes regarding eternal life and Buddhist sects. The fight between Ashina and the Interior Ministry is something that is just the stage for the real story of Senpou Temple and the Fountainhead Palace/kami

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There's nothing esoteric about AC6

        How many people do you think just beat the game once and either sided with their robo waifu or went bros before hoes before calling it a day?

        Compared to how many beat the game 3 times to find out they were basically just MKultra'd by the tutorial computer into killing everyone that they had ever come into contact with before effectively exterminating the human race by assimilating it with an alien species?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >as non-Christian Japanese people have a primitive understanding of God and the supernatural

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as non-Christian Japanese people have a primitive understanding of God and the supernatural
      What is this weeb brainrot?

      >zoomers so out of touch with the rest of the world that they don't understand the spiritual history of japan
      zoom on over to any history book, morons.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so out of touch with the rest of the world that they don't understand the spiritual history of japan
    >zoom on over to any history book, morons.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are (You) ready to have your shabby headcanon btfo'd by the DLC even harder than Solaire was Gwyn's firstborn?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was one of the earliest adopters of "Malenia fought Radahn to free her and Miquella's fates from stasis" and I will likely be proven to be correct since killing Radahn is a requirement to start the DLC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DLC raises more questions than it answers
      >is nonsensical
      I mean I'm gonna enjoy it but I'm not expecting anything competent. After DaS3, this company felt like a satire of itself with TRC. Its going to be more evident with Godwyn, Messmer and Miquella.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dark souls 1 DLC explained a lot though and even had plot twists to it which were interesting. im still impressed by that cat in the forest and how it tied to the dlc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DS2's also added a lot of context to things like Nashandra's origins as well as featuring Raime and Alonne
          I wasn't a fan of TRC turning Gwyn into literally Hitler for no reason but the DS3 dlcs weren't really bad considering what a mess the base game is. Had a good chuckle seeing that windmill too (much better DS2 reference than dead ladder man.)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See this is the kind of shit that happens when you let a troony run things. They don't know who they are or what they are doing, they just frick everything up and break shit before they give up and kill themselves. Every single time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the tree is a vampire or something

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the entire thing is farming souls through the tree for a space god lightyears away

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vaati has done irreparable damage to the lore community, I'm going to have to see this moronic fanfic be peddled until the end of time huh

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally never watched a single video

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Paleblood Hunt is still worse

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We don't see any evidence of that, if the game wanted to make a point of that it would be mentioning how few people are around these days compared to before (as souls are being consumed instead of reborn) with miscarriage and stillbirth being common. The only source for rebirth and souls going to the erdtree is mostly from dung eater who is unreliable because he's deranged.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't bad.
    It's just Rannigays making assumptions.

    The land is in chaos not because of the Golden Order, but because of its end.
    The player character can like it or not and restore it, possibly with adjustments, or replace it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is the Golden Order good if it produced Ranni?
      Checkmate GOgays

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spend an indefinite amount of time as an immortal slave to an immortal aristocracy
      >at least until the alien tree decides it's time for your soul to be recycled into another slave
      Wow, great world you have there

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    golden order = communists

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's up with goldmask though? Dude kills himself for seemingly no reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goldmask didn't kill himself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a FromSoft game. What else do you really need to know?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      his follower killed him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goldmask being able to get his rune without Coryhn disproves this theory. Its just Fromsofts usual writing.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fundamentally (ha) flawed since it's subject to the fickleness of gods and formed from key parts of the elden ring being removed.
    It was always just a way for Marika to power trip and by the time she realized that she fricked up her tulpa had already become devoted to it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they just are ok??

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the deal with Fia's ending again? So everyone turned into bug zombies? What would happen to Godwyn in that ending?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not bad but it's controlling all of humanity and setting up natural laws and stuff. Humanity during the Age of the Erdtree was living pretty well under Marika and the GO, as long as they were obedient, didn't care about freedom, and weren't "tainted".

    The GO has a bad case of genociding everything it considers tainted. But if you weren't born one of the subhuman races or with subhuman imperfections, the GO was pretty good.

    So it's more: would you be willing to have an eternal, all powerful master with no freedom, as long as you are cared and tended for decently? Are you an untermensch or an ubermensch? Marika chose.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika is a troony. That makes it bad.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Golden Order insists on controlling planetary alignments to keep it's connection to the Elden Beast at it's strongest.This is what Radahn was holding in place; not just the Astels but celestial bodies akin to Saturn and Jupiter. The logo for the Golden Order is just that of The Great Conjunction, something romans idealised as when mankind was at it's most politically and morally stable.

    This is also in turn why the Scarlet Rot has returned to the lands between; It is a fail-safe to prevent the Golden Order from maintaining absolute control as The Greater Will wishes for mediation in all things, not just the Golden Order.

    The human form is regarded as the Order's core ideal, and all other concepts are alien or lesser to actualising this ideal. This is why Miquella rejected The Golden Order; it stifled innovation and was causing the world to literally stagnate for the sake of the Elden Beast's sustenance.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything was perfect until she sperged out and ruined it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why? Stripping Godwyn of his soul meant that the Golden Order could instill him with Marika's will and turn him into Radagon. The night of the black knives was the biggest win for The Golden Order. Maybe not The Erdtree Cult though, it was probably perceived as a tragedy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She just made weapons that killed gods for real.
      They could have taken the L and move on.
      But then marika chimped out and they decided to keep his putrid, rotting corpse at the base of the erdtree and people like fia figured out that's where the deathblight comes from.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Removing death just made everyone a bunch of miserable zombies with no will to live
    The dominula women for example went crazy because their husbands didn't care about dicking them anymore so they flayed the men and burned them alive in an attempt to bring back their virility.

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